This looks like it's gonna definitely be a double controller + double initiator map. I could see some funny plays where Cypher trips freeze people mid air but I don't think it will be a map like sunset where it is necessary to have a sentinel
They won’t because u have ALOT of time before u fall off u can even do it slower. It’s 4 seconds from when u jump that more time than halfing a defuse if you think about it. Plenty of time
My optimal comp as a theorycrafter: 1. Neon (quick rotations from odd rotation paths, lots of nice out of map skill jumps, very fast entry due to the buffs, fast follow up from initiator util). 2. Breach (Lots of long corridors in mid for free stun potential. Hard to clear rat corners for aftershock potential. Very large open areas for group flashes. This is by far the best breach map in the game calling it now.) 3. Harbor (yes not omen Im trolling gg ez I lost. No but honestly Harbor is better because of how open the map is. The cascade is one of the best ways to scale through the large mains where lots of team fights will happen and since this map is gonna be all about the post plant, cove is your best friend. Omen is better for the TikTok highlight clips). 4. Gekko (again post plants are your friends on attacker side, you gotta plant fast before rotations come in. Dizzy also clears a LOT of space, and Thrash is literally broken rn too. 5. Chamber (chamber’s back baby. Operator potential on this map is unreal. Trips aren’t really gonna be too helpful anyways since nobody should even go mid, but you still have one. Lots of get out of jail free card areas). Honorable Mentions: Deadlock (wall delays push for a LONG time for team to rotate over, gravnet is OP Sova: Drone can clear large open areas very quickly, and lots of cringe dart spots for reveals Omen: obviously, he’s got lots of TPs and his flash can clear the big open areas well, Sage: similar to deadlock, wall is annoying slow orbs are annoying, grim is annoying Agents to avoid: Yoru (tp’s will fall off the map you can’t just throw your tp anywhere), Clove (it’s a large map so if your Clove dies in any of the mains you’re forced to commit there, since there’s so many angles which you won’t have smokes for also the wide corridors doesn’t help the meddle)
I just saw a bug with your Phoenix and Jett where they planted on the bridge on A site and went below by using phoenix ult or your tp or Jett glide then playing post pant with a op below holding the bridge
imagine putting your chamber tp on one of the skill jump areas you could probably push out so much, chamber tps can be really creative on the map because of how many turns and ridges there are
I think i heard wohoojin said harbor was the best controller on this map so im pretty interested to see some harbor omen instead of the usual omen viper
Not that I saw, there's a (very small) chance they just didn't include Haven changes in the influencer build for whatever reason, but otherwise it seems like Haven is going to return the same way that it left.
I'll do that around this time tomorrow when the patch notes go live, there are a few other changes like the buy menu UI and things I've got to confirm first
Honest question, I’m new to the game. Are you really faster knife out shifting ? My impression is shifting is allways the same speed with the gun or the knife
Does anyone know when this map will be released in Asia servers? All I know is l that Asia peeps get updates a day after the actual date of release due to timezone differences but I'm not sure...
So it's like 1 days-ish from now for me , I'm in Singapore 😅 and I hope they fix the FPS/Ping issues soon , I've been having a hard time playing with my FPS/Ping interruping my gameplay , I didn't have this issues before , I'm not sure if it's my wifi , but my ping would shoot up to random 3 digit numbers when I play in Singapore servers..
Does anyone agree ? early access videos before the map launch, ruins the map exploration or learning new maps for other players (keeping promotion map promotion aside)
I love listening to his commentary...no cheesy jokes no bs just straight to the point
are you referring to dittozkul? Bro is hella annoying.
No awful Valorant accent, TH-camr voice, or adhd tiktok editing like Rem or Dittozkul. They’re genuinely unwatchable imo
@@notsoperfectdrummer agreed
@@Dittozkul😂😂❤
Thats crazy
The amount of possible creativity on this map is unrivalled
Yooo! U Watch this chad? Big love to u ditto!
This looks like it's gonna definitely be a double controller + double initiator map. I could see some funny plays where Cypher trips freeze people mid air but I don't think it will be a map like sunset where it is necessary to have a sentinel
3:02 The amount of people whos gonna try that in ranked and fail miserably it's gonna be funny af!
i was thinking the same damn thing 😂😂😂
They won’t because u have ALOT of time before u fall off u can even do it slower. It’s 4 seconds from when u jump that more time than halfing a defuse if you think about it. Plenty of time
a lot of people jumping normally to reach the other side(wich is possible) will die a lot an will be hilarious
Yeah lol, this map feels like if team team deathmatch maps are if it could be played in competitive
Breach is going to be insane on abyss
Simple and straight to the point, keep making more such videos with other agents
My optimal comp as a theorycrafter:
1. Neon (quick rotations from odd rotation paths, lots of nice out of map skill jumps, very fast entry due to the buffs, fast follow up from initiator util).
2. Breach (Lots of long corridors in mid for free stun potential. Hard to clear rat corners for aftershock potential. Very large open areas for group flashes. This is by far the best breach map in the game calling it now.)
3. Harbor (yes not omen Im trolling gg ez I lost. No but honestly Harbor is better because of how open the map is. The cascade is one of the best ways to scale through the large mains where lots of team fights will happen and since this map is gonna be all about the post plant, cove is your best friend. Omen is better for the TikTok highlight clips).
4. Gekko (again post plants are your friends on attacker side, you gotta plant fast before rotations come in. Dizzy also clears a LOT of space, and Thrash is literally broken rn too.
5. Chamber (chamber’s back baby. Operator potential on this map is unreal. Trips aren’t really gonna be too helpful anyways since nobody should even go mid, but you still have one. Lots of get out of jail free card areas).
Honorable Mentions:
Deadlock (wall delays push for a LONG time for team to rotate over, gravnet is OP
Sova: Drone can clear large open areas very quickly, and lots of cringe dart spots for reveals
Omen: obviously, he’s got lots of TPs and his flash can clear the big open areas well,
Sage: similar to deadlock, wall is annoying slow orbs are annoying, grim is annoying
Agents to avoid:
Yoru (tp’s will fall off the map you can’t just throw your tp anywhere),
Clove (it’s a large map so if your Clove dies in any of the mains you’re forced to commit there, since there’s so many angles which you won’t have smokes for also the wide corridors doesn’t help the meddle)
As an Omen main I find this video very good for me.
Thanks a lot man, you've gained a subscriber.
a guide already ? not even 24hours after this map released ???
Is it already there
@@demonfan-tk7wg only for creators
@@demonfan-tk7wg no, it's not. only for content creators and stuff
@@Quebei.- ok Ty
its not even released
I just saw a bug with your Phoenix and Jett where they planted on the bridge on A site and went below by using phoenix ult or your tp or Jett glide then playing post pant with a op below holding the bridge
As an omen main, im scared that people will steal him from me on this map
I feel like this map was kind of designed like pearl. A site works well for Orb smokers and B site for line smokers.
imagine putting your chamber tp on one of the skill jump areas you could probably push out so much, chamber tps can be really creative on the map because of how many turns and ridges there are
Buff omen buff breach ❌ role out map just for them✅
Fantastic videos dude
OMEN IS MY MAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCHHH❤❤❤❤
This map feels more of a harbor map than an omen map. The sites are just too big and the curving wall covers much more than Omen’s smokes.
Ok I already wanna see pro plays on this match from tournaments can’t wait for it
Idk but cypher cam can be bugg in some spots in A near the pipe
I think i heard wohoojin said harbor was the best controller on this map so im pretty interested to see some harbor omen instead of the usual omen viper
Harbor viper op
Real question: how many times did you fall off the map while recording this video?
if a dome smoke won't cover for elevation, i wonder how harbor's wall smokes would look like
Harbor's Cascade would really work well on B side defense don't u think?
They better not nerf the off-map TP shenanigans. It’ll be the most fun tech and it’ll also kind of undermine the very gimmick of the map
Can someone inform me on how the game handles someone falling off the map with the bomb? I'm curious and haven't seen it yet
I wonder (and im assuming it will be) if Astras star will be behaving the same way. Or Clove and Brims smokes too i guess.
Astras stars will probably behave the same as omen because of the interface. But Brim and Clove use the minimap so they will work fine I assume.
harbor is so much more viable as a controller for this map because of such high and huge areas to cover
You are right theres so many chokepoints and his wall might make people to fall off the map since it can slow the people who are doing the parkour
this guy loves his oneways
I dont think this is gonna be an omen map, as it has similar chokes to pearl/icebox. I’d imagine astra or viper/harbor will be the picks for pro play
10:13 a sage wall parallel to LOS can counter this plant
Jett omen viper breatch and gekko is it a good team?
maybe for a competitive pro or premier team but you'd rarely see this comp at normal ranked
Hey, are there any updates on haven? (I mean ofc there are, I'm just very impatient)
Not that I saw, there's a (very small) chance they just didn't include Haven changes in the influencer build for whatever reason, but otherwise it seems like Haven is going to return the same way that it left.
@@KangaValorant alright thank you so much
@@KangaValorant will ranked queue change with 8.11 only or next act?
@@fasterbaiter 8.11
Can you post other changes comparison like neon, iso, clove and reyna. I am looking for that video. Thanks
I'll do that around this time tomorrow when the patch notes go live, there are a few other changes like the buy menu UI and things I've got to confirm first
@@KangaValorant thanks, looking forward to it. Love your videos.
harbor + viper might be amazing here
The opportunities on this map are crazy, valorant is going to become a whole lot more creative
@@EminentEntity rare valorant W
Please don’t let this be pearl part 2 in pro…
Honest question, I’m new to the game. Are you really faster knife out shifting ? My impression is shifting is allways the same speed with the gun or the knife
Im pretty sure its faster with the knife
quite a bit faster with knife my friend
@@3XH1L Shift walking is exactly the same with the gun or the knife or am I tripping
@@MarioSantana97tripping
@@Gunkerjunk nah Bro I stopped time. It’s exactly the same
Will they add a new map queue?
Chamber is great for this map
Why? Im a chamber main so id like to know
Because you can tp back if you fall off
@@MonkeySherlock nope you can't you have to be on the ground not falling
"Chamber is great for all maps"
-Chamber main
@@MonkeySherlockit makes me mad that you said this.
Tp while almost falling to death. Soud falmiliar... *Ender pearls sounds*
Ty 4 video, gi
Pls sentinel whats best sentinel for map
Cypher and kj both are pretty good on bind
@@rahularora172this is not bind lmao
Deadlock I believe
Because it give me sort of ice box vibes because of all the ups and down movement you can do
I think KJ might be good here
@@abdallahabdelkarim6063oh yeah she could, cuz there's a lot of jumping needed.
Place a sensor on the side jumping part, to throw em off
What if Jett falls off map but she uses her airlift not get fall damage. Will she be alive below the map?
she's still gonna die after falling a certain height but she can survive up to 30 seconds using airlift out of the map borders
Does anyone know when this map will be released in Asia servers? All I know is l that Asia peeps get updates a day after the actual date of release due to timezone differences but I'm not sure...
Wednesday morning, for me in Australia it's like ~10am.
the same time the accessory shop updates, which for me is 6/12 (SEA)
So it's like 1 days-ish from now for me , I'm in Singapore 😅 and I hope they fix the FPS/Ping issues soon , I've been having a hard time playing with my FPS/Ping interruping my gameplay , I didn't have this issues before , I'm not sure if it's my wifi , but my ping would shoot up to random 3 digit numbers when I play in Singapore servers..
@@julianmigueljuarezarcilla so u live in singapore and use singapore servers, but your ping is awful?
@@curlyhole8861 currently yea
We can play this map already?
Dont wanna say anithing but in terms of smoke and not tp and make sick plays harbor is the best
what happen if you fall from the map with yoru uilt??
death
i think this map might get rework, there's way too many rat spots, just like OG split.
anyone know if abyss will be in pro play next split?
It will I think
Yes riot will test this map before champs so that they can change it if necessary
@@Farfromyourreach nah i just mean split 2 literally starts in less than a week so when will they start to play this in vct
where did you get radiant buddy?
being radiant? lmao
Feels heavily attack sided, we’ll see tho when it comes out
when is it coming out?
pretty sure today
couple years from now
ppl with acrophobia are going to hate this map
holy i didnt know my king Kanga was radiant
Pls do duelist or initiiator
Bros accent is like afdaskdabsvasamd....
Does anyone agree ? early access videos before the map launch, ruins the map exploration or learning new maps for other players (keeping promotion map promotion aside)
then don’t watch them? it’s not hard, i managed.
New patch release date???
tommorow
could you do a deadlock guide?
Chill the map ain’t even out yet😭
BRO I dont have abysss right now
i ans also omen main
feels like a 2 controller map
is he good on the map, probably not.
is he hecking fun af, hellyea
New fear, fall of the map😢😢😢😢😢
2 mins and 48 views...bro fell off🤫🧏♂️ jk w vid
someone is getting nerfed
Big and messy map
What a shitty map omfg, Riot never gets one right
went to frown town. they said you were the mayor.
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No likes in 6 mins.... Bro fell off
Bro doesn’t even do yt
@@Joshsmii talking bout his comment
@@Keyology I know it wasn’t towards you