Wheel braces; terry toweling hats in the pit lane; Moffat on the ragged edge; a face-splitting smile on my face for 27:27 minutes. It doesn't get any better than this....and the kids think they invented drifting. Bravo & huge thanks to whoever saved this classic footage.
Great to see the old racing days. Love the XU1 ... so quick and got a huge following early in it's life thanks to Bondy and Brock. The Falcon, by comparison was a heavy. clumsy car (as you know if you drove one anywhere else than in a straight line). Good to see the Chargers also.
I grew up with Chargers as my hero cars- can still remember at 3yo singing "all new Charger- unbeleivable!" parroting the ads off the telly. Can you imagine my delight at seeing how this race turned out? What a gift, thank you!
I remember Leo Geoghegan was asked at a Charger club “Do you think you would have been more successful if your Charger had more power?” To which he said “We had plenty of power. The brakes were not good enough for racing. The pads were so hard the discs wore out!”
As far as I know the racing Chargers had the same disc/drum setup as my VH Ranger XL except for having cooling find on the drums. I'd be interested in what Geoghegan and others really thought about the front discs, because in my experience the discs on my VH warp if they get hot after long downhills, the originals had to be skimmed a couple of times, and Iv'e been using a pair off a VJ for a long time, and they need skimming as well.With all the hard braking they did racing them ,warping must have been an issue surely. I used to have a VF Regal ,and you could get it's discs hot and they never warped, must have been better metal.
Wonderful memories - thanks for your restoration efforts, which are marvelous. I love these older motor races when men were men and cars were full of raw grunt and noise. Pity Warwick Farm closed as a motor racing circuit in 1973, but at least "horse power" still prevails on the remaining racecourse.
Thanks for your kind words, we agree with "love these older motor races when men were men and cars were full of raw grunt and noise." They sure were.. wonderful times back then..enjoy our channel PS. Sorry to take so long in getting back to you, better late than never I guess... oops!
It's a shame the Warwick Farm track is no more, it was one of Australia's better tracks. Love the Chargers as well, I wonder how they would be regarded if Doug had won Bathurst in 1972.
Even the minis would have done well at this track, the XY is just too heavy for those corners, looks like an episode of homicide with those cars rolling around the bends!
oh yeah that made sense long ratio 3 speed gearbox top 60mph in first thinking you are going to get of line quicker,dont know where that logic comes from.all clutch work and revving just trying to get away.those 3speed boxes are like a 4speeds 2nd-3rd and 4th gears.
Badday!! Toranas lost then as did Moffat. Though they did better on the Ford even after smoking them sideways and a couple of big lock ups as well. And quite a few huge oil surges as well. Those Fords were on the point of disaster all the time. Chivas was quite smart, not as fast but more reliable. Those Chargers all looked bum up? Yet the otherway as a road car. Someone has stretched the rules!!
E38/49 had adjustable rear spring hangers, and torsion bar front, so no cheating required to alter their stance. I thought the ones in this race were high enough both ends to be rally cars :-)
@@robp2831 Adjustable front bars for sure. Rear ride height was fixed however. No adjustable shackles. And yes they are cars I have worked on. In period. Though my recollection of the then rules is that ride height and springs/ bars had to be standard. And those Chargers went from pig understeer to superloose. .Not much in the middle. For say a current GpN they can fiddle with suspension to get the things to handle ok. Though so can the Falcons and Toranas so they are still chazsing them. The Toranas are generally very good. Not that many really good Falcons around. They have Mustangs or Camaros!
Miss my Charger. Great see the production cars out racing.
Love those chargers
Wheel braces; terry toweling hats in the pit lane; Moffat on the ragged edge; a face-splitting smile on my face for 27:27 minutes. It doesn't get any better than this....and the kids think they invented drifting. Bravo & huge thanks to whoever saved this classic footage.
Great to see the old racing days. Love the XU1 ... so quick and got a huge following early in it's life thanks to Bondy and Brock. The Falcon, by comparison was a heavy. clumsy car (as you know if you drove one anywhere else than in a straight line). Good to see the Chargers also.
I grew up with Chargers as my hero cars- can still remember at 3yo singing "all new Charger- unbeleivable!" parroting the ads off the telly. Can you imagine my delight at seeing how this race turned out? What a gift, thank you!
what a track! shame we've lost it (and others)
I remember Leo Geoghegan was asked at a Charger club “Do you think you would have been more successful if your Charger had more power?” To which he said “We had plenty of power. The brakes were not good enough for racing. The pads were so hard the discs wore out!”
As far as I know the racing Chargers had the same disc/drum setup as my VH Ranger XL except for having cooling find on the drums. I'd be interested in what Geoghegan and others really thought about the front discs, because in my experience the discs on my VH warp if they get hot after long downhills, the originals had to be skimmed a couple of times, and Iv'e been using a pair off a VJ for a long time, and they need skimming as well.With all the hard braking they did racing them ,warping must have been an issue surely. I used to have a VF Regal ,and you could get it's discs hot and they never warped, must have been better metal.
Wonderful memories - thanks for your restoration efforts, which are marvelous. I love these older motor races when men were men and cars were full of raw grunt and noise. Pity Warwick Farm closed as a motor racing circuit in 1973, but at least "horse power" still prevails on the remaining racecourse.
Thanks for your kind words, we agree with "love these older motor races when men were men and cars were full of raw grunt and noise." They sure were.. wonderful times back then..enjoy our channel
PS. Sorry to take so long in getting back to you, better late than never I guess... oops!
Brilliant.
Love the channel, this was awesome showing the inline 6 superior to a V8 on the rubber at the time. Thanks for bringing this to us!
The Vals used the same tyres as the Fords, but on an inch wider rim.
Torsion bar suspension too.
It's a shame the Warwick Farm track is no more, it was one of Australia's better tracks. Love the Chargers as well, I wonder how they would be regarded if Doug had won Bathurst in 1972.
I watched most of there races)))
Charger best of era
Hey charger 👌
Snort! Grunt! Snart! Lovely tunes!
Even the minis would have done well at this track, the XY is just too heavy for those corners, looks like an episode of homicide with those cars rolling around the bends!
Plus more ground clearance than my Prado
@@barrymegee1814 haha yeah. Good to work on though, I can’t drain the oil on my XR6 without jacking it up.
The charger would’ve been way better if it had a 4 speed😉
Doug Chivas.... Would be good if you guys spelled his name right.
I agree. It's Chivas.
@@greensocks4507 Like the whisky.
oh yeah that made sense long ratio 3 speed gearbox top 60mph in first thinking you are going to get of line quicker,dont know where that logic comes from.all clutch work and revving just trying to get away.those 3speed boxes are like a 4speeds 2nd-3rd and 4th gears.
Was this the Doug Chivers who went on to race sidecars.
Its his dad i believe, Doug Chivas was 49 back in 72
LB1973 I met Doug (junior i guess) once in Blenheim NZ he was a mate of my mate Stu Forbes.
Jimmy Patchett He was as crazy as his old man
moffat is steading up now and giving himself up to 3 inches of clearance on the fences
How bout that ROLL
Badday!! Toranas lost then as did Moffat. Though they did better on the Ford even after smoking them sideways and a couple of big lock ups as well. And quite a few huge oil surges as well. Those Fords were on the point of disaster all the time.
Chivas was quite smart, not as fast but more reliable. Those Chargers all looked bum up? Yet the otherway as a road car. Someone has stretched the rules!!
E38/49 had adjustable rear spring hangers, and torsion bar front, so no cheating required to alter their stance. I thought the ones in this race were high enough both ends to be rally cars :-)
@@robp2831 Adjustable front bars for sure. Rear ride height was fixed however. No adjustable shackles. And yes they are cars I have worked on. In period.
Though my recollection of the then rules is that ride height and springs/ bars had to be standard.
And those Chargers went from pig understeer to superloose. .Not much in the middle.
For say a current GpN they can fiddle with suspension to get the things to handle ok. Though so can the Falcons and Toranas so they are still chazsing them. The Toranas are generally very good. Not that many really good Falcons around. They have Mustangs or Camaros!
falcons where better suited to bathurst..smaller cars always better on smaller tracks.. no brainer..