BATHURST - THE BIG THREE 4 Corners 1970

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    Insightful ABC TV 4 Corners program from 1970 hosted by Mike Willesee, about the rise of "The Big Three" car companies dominating Australian motorsport at the time, GMH, Ford and Chrysler. Interviewed are Harry Firth, Al Turner, John Ellis, Leo Geoghan and John Roxburgh. John Sexton reporting. This video is part of Chevron Marketing Services "Classic Australian Touring Car Races Volume 2" dvd. Introduced by the legendary Will Hagon.

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  • @jeffwilliams742
    @jeffwilliams742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Australia has turned shit compared to the good old days of motor racing

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      Australia now makes shit look like caviar.

  • @danielbrealey2924
    @danielbrealey2924 9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    that was SO GREAT!!! Oh the glory days. So wish I could walk into one of THOSE dealerships TODAY. Only in my dreams unfort. Still own '70s and 80's cars now, not interested in plastic bumpered eco boxes. Modern tech is great for engines, brake and suspension- but can all be adapted to old sheet metal. The best of both world is available if you want it enough...

    • @Jesse-B
      @Jesse-B 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's the spirit old son.

  • @rbrucemusic7702
    @rbrucemusic7702 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Al Turner is still alive and well and living in Florida. A friend had dinner with him 2 weeks ago. A true gentleman of racing -- as opposed to some others I could name -- in OZ and the US.RB

    • @Super100MPH
      @Super100MPH  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for the info, people will be interested to hear that, we're sure!

  • @hoey3510
    @hoey3510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Chrysler valiants had peanuts for a budget..amazing they where so competitive

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      More than competitive. My Hemi 265 was legendary. People still talk about it. 127 miles an hour and still climbing. Only Ford 351 cars could compete. At 120mph the Fords crawled past me. Hats off to Ford GTHO.

  • @100ververis
    @100ververis ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What an era unfortunately long gone and never to be seen again.

  • @mickcarson8504
    @mickcarson8504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    These memories. I loved everyone who was into cars at the time, a was a mechanic, part of the Chrysler Valiants service centre.. We've modified a lot of Valiants 64-70. Our workshop used to be near the original Alan Coffey Ford as South Melbourne, now Southbank (at the time they relocated to Dandenong and been there for years) near where the Westgate Freeway is and just off Montague Street. Everything was razed down to make room for the Westgate Freeway. Only memories are left now, but the legends live on in films.

  • @hcrun
    @hcrun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a GREAT documentary! Back when Four Corners was apolitical and worth watching and back when Mike Willesee was the top cat!Oh....and also back when it was enjoyable to watch Australian motor racing.

    • @MrRoydie1
      @MrRoydie1 ปีที่แล้ว

      😅00⁰0000p9ppph

  • @Deevo037
    @Deevo037 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I love the way the torsion bar front ends had the Valliants hooking up their inside front wheels on the tight corners.

  • @lancaster643
    @lancaster643 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    61 cars and all sorts of makes! That was the way to run a race. So much more interesting than now!

    • @306champion
      @306champion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tooright, I couldn't agree more.

    • @velocityjet1884
      @velocityjet1884 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I cannot stand todays touring cars, no excitment

    • @MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS
      @MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @clayton E 🤣

    • @RyanHellyer
      @RyanHellyer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sounds nice. But the racing wasn't very close back then and I think would be quite boring to watch on the Telly.

    • @adolflenin4973
      @adolflenin4973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS 🤘💐🐜🍹

  • @lesliebarker5657
    @lesliebarker5657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was great to see. I think what the Datsun guy said was right. The big three should have had to sell 5000 cars not just 200. Imagine the great cars we would have still. As so few were made we only have 25 Torana’s still around today. I’m a valiant guy and this was great to watch as I never knew Valiant’s raced like Ford and Holden. My second car was a 1965 AP6 I bought for $400 in 1990 as a young kid. I loved that car until it was stolen in 2004. It broke my heart losing that car. To replace it today would cost over $20,000. I’m happy that my kids are growing up and will soon be out of school so as they go to private school I’ll have money to buy my dream car a Valiant Charger vitamin C orange. I’m not buying a new car again that costs $30,000 then 5 years later your lucky to get $5-10,000 trade in. I’m buying a valiant for around $15-20,000 and putting money into it and it will only go up in value.

    • @lesliebarker5657
      @lesliebarker5657 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Birdy Wirdy the 25 cars I was talking about were the first XU-1’s made for the 69-70 Bathurst. There is a book about Torana’s it has photos of the rarest and race models. I read it over 15 years ago so I could have mixed up the car and or number. But I’m sure it was the original small XU-1’s. I also wish they had made the 5000 because there would be more around. I could buy an old car in the 90’s and early 2000’s for under a grand. Then the government went and ruined old cars for good by bringing out that $2000 buy back of any car. So many old cars were lost. Now that’s bought up the prices. Cars worth $1000 20-15 years ago are worth $10,000 now it’s ridiculous and I’m pretty pissed off with what the government did. Also those fools that sold up all the old cars. Just getting a parts car now is so costly parts are now like gold, rare.

  • @iDrive123
    @iDrive123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And the big 3 are all dead.

  • @marcsgrower1
    @marcsgrower1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Super footage. Never been to Bathurst but remember the races of the time at Symmons Plains and Longford. So fortunate to witness drivers like Allan Moffat, Norm Beechy, Robin Pare, Bob Jane and so many others. Takes me back.

  • @aussietaipan8700
    @aussietaipan8700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Oh God, how I loved the 70's, the cars, the industry, jobs and music bands. I purchased my HQ coupe LS 308 in 1978 - my first car. I still have it.

    • @jamescarney6894
      @jamescarney6894 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it black and red? That was a dream combo for the Monaro...

    • @thDARKside2
      @thDARKside2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still own the 2nd car I bought back in 85. LC XU1, cost me $2500.

    • @aussietaipan8700
      @aussietaipan8700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamescarney6894 Mine is white with black.

    • @aussietaipan8700
      @aussietaipan8700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck with it mate, I love the look of the LC/LJ Torana's.

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remember me in your Will.

  • @ldnwholesale8552
    @ldnwholesale8552 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Supercar furore was just that. A media beat up. By a couple of journos who should have known better. IF you had the bucks you could have bought any of those cars, when they had the orders they would build them!
    Though the workshops,,, Especially Harrys, very basic but those cars won regularly, circuits, rally and rallycross as well.
    And in hindsight having owned all of those cars [and Monaros as well] over the decades they actually were quite good cars for long distance touring. The Falcon especially. Though it was the hungriest as a racecar!
    As for Roxborous sour grapes, maybe why CAMS was so backward under his reign.

    • @berylclarke7168
      @berylclarke7168 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      LDN Wholesale u

    • @Holden308
      @Holden308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Phase IV, V8 Torana and proposed V8 Charger (though Crysler execs to this day still deny it despite known testing by Leo and Pete Geoghegan at Mallala) were labeled "Bullets on wheels" by NSW Transport Minister Milton Morris. But as some argued, the well heeled could still go buy an imported Porsche, Ferrari, Jaguar etc, all of which had performance capabilities that rivaled or bettered the Aussie cars, and they could still go kill themselves driving those as much they could any of the proposed Aussie V8's.
      I agree about Roxburgh. He really was a bit backwards (old fashioned) in his thinking. Ironically by the 1980s he was actually the FIA delegate for motor racing in Australia (CAMS) and New Zealand (MotorSport New Zealand).

  • @greebo7857
    @greebo7857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end... Moffat and McPhee, one two. Moff's first Bathurst win. I was there, on Skyline. It was the day after my 17th birthday, A Ford win was a good present.

    • @rossherlihy8307
      @rossherlihy8307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thankyou for the story and sharing your memory.

  • @kineticdeath
    @kineticdeath 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    this pre-dates my existence by 12 years but is still extremely interesting and a great insight into the bathurst scene back then. Those cars sounded way more.. beefy than modern cars, maybe its just a difference in the technology, it was good sound!

  • @area51isreal71
    @area51isreal71 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have this on DVD. Great to see it surface on You Tube for everyone to see. Interesting to compare the three team bosses, Harry Firth hands on and in the workshop with Al Turner dressed for a wedding sitting behind his desk. And how young is John Ellis, Chryslers man? Exciting times that I remember well, and 1971 was even more exciting with the Phase 3 GTHO Falcon and the Valiant Charger E38! Thank you Super 100MPH, Chevron and the ABC.

  • @donamorawaka4907
    @donamorawaka4907 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Back then when the Australian car industry was its very best very happy and sad to this

    • @robthelog223
      @robthelog223 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dona Morawaka A great era, that we will never see again. Vale the Australian automotive industry .

    • @donamorawaka4907
      @donamorawaka4907 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes the great Australian car industry will be remembered forever

    • @donamorawaka4907
      @donamorawaka4907 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly I agree

    • @Zonda1996
      @Zonda1996 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looking back, it was a fantastic era for enthusiast owners cars.
      The overall financial climate was favourable, petrol was reasonably priced, and we had an abundance of manufacturers producing affordable and desirable cars. Huge shame that they all pulled the plug on Australia.

    • @benwinter2420
      @benwinter2420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A true golden age for sure & great times . sad to see these once blue collar beasts now treated & priced like rare Ming vases

  • @Zonda1996
    @Zonda1996 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My Mum’s first car was a Val. She says it was one of her favourites to drive.

  • @mikevale3620
    @mikevale3620 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Fascinating from so many aspects...
    I couldn't believe the comments from the 1961 Vauxhall Cresta Bathurst winner who said how the cars racing in 1970 bore no relationship to the cars sold in the showroom, which was clearly false.
    That guy would turn over in his grave if he saw the cars racing at Bathurst in 2016, which truly are TOTALLY different to the cars sold in dealership showrooms, which is primary reason I haven't watched a Bathurst race in over 20 years!

    • @flamingfrancis
      @flamingfrancis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That win by the Cresta wasn't at Bathurst but the very first of the Armstrong 500's when it was held at Philip Island. So the 1960, 1961 and 1962 races were held there before changing over to the Bathurst Armstrong 500 in 1963.

  • @denisthemenace.
    @denisthemenace. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'd almost forgotten that the ABC once was worth a place in our everyday lives, it's been so long

    • @flamingfrancis
      @flamingfrancis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great standards then and still no journos who take their directives from Murdoch.

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now ABC is ??????????????????????getting worse.

  • @bushtech2259
    @bushtech2259 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watched this in 1970 and now watching this again, cant see any full sized Holdens but keep seeing this Vauxhall torana with a lion badge, Ford were running their Falcons and Chrysler were running their Valiant, both full sized. I didn't see Cortinas or Centuras to compete fairly with the Torana.

    • @sutherlandA1
      @sutherlandA1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bushtech 225 there are a couple of ht monaros though

    • @racketman2u
      @racketman2u 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't really see what body size has to do with it, you do realise the Torana had "full-size" six in it? even if it does sound a bit puny even for that era at 160hp for what was then a 2.6 litre engine.

  • @CruzyMopar
    @CruzyMopar 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Absolutely Brilliant, such a blast from the past. Those hemi Pacers sure did give those GTHOs a run for their money

    • @victorpetroff830
      @victorpetroff830 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Daan Vaan they won just not Bathurst maybe if Chrysler spent more money like ford and Holden things could have been different but will never know

    • @Mercmad
      @Mercmad 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Although they used the American A body,the engine,3 speed trans and diff were all Australian. I remember the pacer had the pace but the engine was the 245 and it took a good driver to get one to move at the absolute limit to keep the cheating Fords at bay. I reckon Firms like Shelby were supplying the engines and the fourspeed trans gave them an edge,plus all of the different diff ratios available to them.As mustangs were simply a falcon in a fancy frock, there was a lot of know how being fed to the OZ teams back then. I have a customer who owned two Pacers, a red one and a blue one and the brakes were pretty ordinary,being locally made PBR units. We cured a lot of the brake issues by installing an extra booster under the backseats for the drums. If the cars had been built in the US,things like B body brakes, the mopar locking diffs, and the fourspeed trans could have been used,and if the front brakes were still no good,a set of imperial discs would have cured that.

    • @Mentorcase
      @Mentorcase 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Like when they put the six pack in the chargers and gave the falcon v8s a spanking.

    • @ProjectFairmont
      @ProjectFairmont 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Falcon was heavier than the Valiant, but even in its first year the Cleveland 351 was outstanding.

    • @scann13
      @scann13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mercmad USA A body but was widened for the AUS cars

  • @jamescarney6894
    @jamescarney6894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember seeing this the first time it was on ABC tv fifty years ago. Mike Willesee was Australia's Walter Cronkite. This was a time when every boy was mesmerised by the Hardie Ferodo 500 Bathurst race .... dang, I still am, but those GTS Monaros and GTHO days were simply grand.

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      You betchya. My old friend Mary, her husband and 2 boys attended Bathurst Races religiously during the 60s and 70s and on. At 94 Mary was still known as a petrol head. I bought a stock Hemi Pacer 265 in 1978. A friend of mine could testify, I had that bad boy doing 127 miles per hour regularly. I now drive a little Suzuki but I miss the good old days. I never injured anyone but had fun before the World went down the toilet. I earned the name BURNOUT before Summernats. If any of my ex Students are out there, catch up.

  • @BrockGamingGarage
    @BrockGamingGarage 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Where are you getting all this amazing footage....I'll be here for weeks!

  • @valpacer70
    @valpacer70 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Go the Pacer racer, love the air under the front wheel, thanks for posting, great quality.

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Hemi Pacer 265 stock was a WEAPON. Never had a smash or hurt anyone. Just pure pleasure and reliability.

  • @sandwichman100
    @sandwichman100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    todays garbage cars all the same under a blow moulded body
    hows about some smart arse decides to go back to racing off the shelf cars in different classes?

  • @darrenparkinson4576
    @darrenparkinson4576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They seem to be in a perpetual LURCH around this circuit.......

  • @andrewphillips4897
    @andrewphillips4897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had an LC XU-1 with 188 HP. Three 45 mm Webbers, dyno-tuned extractors, etc., etc.

    • @glendooer6211
      @glendooer6211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mate had an XU1 came back from the pub and wrote it off 71 Miles on the clock

    • @Leosarebetter
      @Leosarebetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All I had was an EH with a 186s, worked with a 149 Stage 3 Yella Terra head, 3/4 Race Cam, 650cfm Holley, Tuned Extractors, Balanced, Mags etc. She picked up her skirts and took off when pedal was at the metal. Not a bad daily driver also. Sold her to a guy who got it defected by the Cops in Hindley Street and then he broke it.

    • @flamingfrancis
      @flamingfrancis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Leosarebetter Yes...who remembers the Brian Muir EH S4 ? The first Holden Special for Bathurst.

  • @brianmoylan1671
    @brianmoylan1671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fire up the CLEVO !

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Ford XD with a 302 Clevo was the best car ever.

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Typical American CEO even back then, its about making sure that you stick to the number 1 rule, cover your own ass, before you lose it, :)

  • @leongt1954
    @leongt1954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The big 3 LOL now in Aus we have the big 0

    • @peterpiper831
      @peterpiper831 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      leongt1954
      Roy Orbison ?

  • @peregrinemccauley7819
    @peregrinemccauley7819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The old ' Marrickville Mercedes ' . Couldn't kill 'em with a stick .

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were called "Wog Chariots" as well. Loved my Hemi 265.

  • @michaellonghurst7291
    @michaellonghurst7291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How's that Mopar guy for cool prepared answers!!!

    • @blumie006
      @blumie006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Typical uni student always telling lies

  • @MelodyMan69
    @MelodyMan69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Back in the day when a 'Privateer' could enter the Bathurst !! 🇦🇺

  • @MrGoblin60
    @MrGoblin60 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The critics have a point. These magnificent cars were a bit too fast and powerful for the relatively primitive handling, safety features and brakes built into them. Present "specials" built by Ford and GM are WAY safer and easier to drive than the XU-1's and GTHO's of yesterday. Mind you, I'd still love to own a Phase III!!!

    • @Deevo037
      @Deevo037 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was one of the big arguments behind the supercar scare of the early 70s. I've always felt that having a performance vehicle built from the ground up is 1000% safer than some drunken bogan shoehorning a big V8 into a bog standard car though. Also by restricting cars as they did in the 70s they also restricted innovation and development in the local industry, probably the first nail in the coffin leading to the closures now.

    • @beagle7622
      @beagle7622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow I wish there were more of these around. I saw Firths operation near glen ferrite. A smallish garage with 3 or 4 cars stuffed in. When the cars they were hardly pristine with rough superficial body repairs and awful paint jobs .. The money spent then was a joke. My dad had a GTS307 company car with 4 speed Muncie transmission top speed 115mph . This car did not even have radial tyres. The first car. I drove on the road, it really was a lethal beast, with awful brakes. Even then teams were driving cars up to Bathurst. Harry Firth may have had a couple of trailers given to him for the race but not much more. As he said he knew where the money came from. Moffat is on record as saying something like " what were we thinking driving those cars at Bathurst at the speed they were doing when the brake pedal would often go to the floor" It is amazing driver safety hardly rates a word. These guys were crazy driving these beasts, but we the fans loved them.

    • @Zonda1996
      @Zonda1996 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of the factory road going versions of any of the cars that raced Bathurst in the last 30 or so years have been anywhere near the spec of the racing cars either. There would’ve been a lot more than a public scare if the road spec GTRs rolled off the production line pushing near 700hp and able to scrape the 300km/h barrier in the late 80s/early 90s.
      I do agree it’s a shame they ended up ceasing development in the way they did, as it very well could have been the first catalyst for the death of motor production in Australia. But it is amazing how quick cars from the 70s are, especially in relation to their braking and handling capabilities.

  • @Rtechmobile
    @Rtechmobile 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a shame Oran Park is gone , honestly fuck progress sometimes.

    • @flamingfrancis
      @flamingfrancis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Warwick Farm, and Catalina (Katoomba)

  • @edwardburek1717
    @edwardburek1717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a fantastic insight into a bygone age. As a Pom who correctly pronounces it "BAFF-Hurst" this is really interesting to work out the machinations from the different teams of that era.
    I reckon this 4 Corners programme was the ABC's equivalent of Top Gear, well before the Clarkson/May/Hammond era.
    ps - RIP Holden.

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A one off ABC 4 Corners episode. Still running weekly from its 1961 start. Some say inspired by BBC Panorama. Lots of comments below about the trends in the ABC and 4 Corners. The ABC in the mid seventies to around 1980 did present a weekly car focused show called Torque. With Peter Wherrett giving his opinions on new released cars and later the Marque series. Some can be found on TH-cam. So possibly well before the first Top Gear.

  • @Kingmick58
    @Kingmick58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Fox, the slick manager and the young fella. Great viewing. And haven't heard that 4 Corners tune for a long time. Thanks for posting from a Mopar tragic.

  • @kentowery414
    @kentowery414 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely brilliant insight into the period.

  • @robthelog223
    @robthelog223 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Vale, Harry Firth. aka The Silver Fox, a great man indeed!

  • @stephensmith1794
    @stephensmith1794 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Orans now a sub division.. went out there and only a bit of straight left but all houses.. owners got nearly 900 million for the land and promised to build a new track !!! Still waiting... I’m glad I fanged around that track before it closed in a 72 Torana ...over the flip flop was thrilling..

  • @georgep9059
    @georgep9059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow cult footage👌😳

  • @mikevale3620
    @mikevale3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this at the end of the Coronavirus pandemic we are literally watching brand new cars, 50 years ago, now worth upwards of half a Million dollars each. I cringe when I see any of them run off the circuit or roll over on those skinny tyres. I'm not greedy...I'll take the Shar she Blue 4BBL Pacer thanks!!

  • @jaykyle2936
    @jaykyle2936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Men were real men, cars were Tougher than today's Drugs

  • @peterhunter2298
    @peterhunter2298 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting to see Oran Park early in this piece. This was before the 'Grand Prix loop" was put in to extend what was then the full circuit but would become the short South Circuit.
    Had to laugh at Harry Firth's assertion that he worked for a 'Dealer Council'. Roughly translated that should read John Bagshaw at Holden lol

    • @swagonwheels
      @swagonwheels 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Regardless of who you think worked for who, the fact remains, The General Owns Bathurst, lol.

  • @michaelandrew4488
    @michaelandrew4488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So 4 Corners helped to kill off the FORD / Holden and Chrysler performance cars

    • @rodpalmer4652
      @rodpalmer4652 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really. It was the likes of Evan Green, a motoring journo who believed that these vehicles were too powerful for the general public. Then the Government of the time stepped in and advised the auto makers that anyone that continued with the Hi po race, would be excluded from government contracts....A lucrative business for the big three.

    • @wizzard5442
      @wizzard5442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was also due to Victoria's record high road-toll - 1100ish in 1970 or 71.

    • @flamingfrancis
      @flamingfrancis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wizzard5442 I recall the argument was that these cars woul end up in the hands of everyday drivers after a few years and that road toll was the final nail.

    • @wizzard5442
      @wizzard5442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flamingfrancis I remember that too and they are now in the hands of everyday drivers but not driven because of their rarity.
      But there are now smaller (turbo-charged) and affordable cars that are quicker than the 67 XR Falcon GT.
      And nobody is kicking up a stink about that, let alone cars that are quicker than the HO's.

  • @billmago7991
    @billmago7991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Check out the crowds!! Why? Because everyone could relate to what was being thrashed around the track....all those Bathurst models are worth the price of Rolls Royce now

  • @Holden308
    @Holden308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harry Firth as boss of the HDT answered to a "Dealers Council"......LOL

  • @petercoster7407
    @petercoster7407 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    fantastic stuff. remember the cars mentioned as a 9 years old brand new. as a mitsubishi motors tonsley employee(the site where the valiants chargers etc were made) I love this

  • @mikevale3620
    @mikevale3620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    RIP, Mike Willessee, 1 March 2019.

    • @greebo7857
      @greebo7857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you know Mike? I did, and his sister Geri. They were both creeps. Mike was a drunk, and Geri wanted me to use my Army contacts to steal grenades and other munitions for the IRA.
      RIP if you want, but he is not worth it.

  • @achilleslaststand7832
    @achilleslaststand7832 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Changing wheels over with the trusty wheel brace the old cars good shit xu1 ho shakers and hemi mini Cooper s love it

  • @hopebear06
    @hopebear06 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some of the race cars at Sandown had number plates. Must have been driven to the track.

    • @flamingfrancis
      @flamingfrancis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The coppers probably hid behind some of the signage and booked the poor bastads.

  • @critchley3819
    @critchley3819 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like it to be a production race, no cheating no lies, just pure entertainment...

    • @lindsaylittle6291
      @lindsaylittle6291 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you think there was no cheating, you weren't there.

  • @Leosarebetter
    @Leosarebetter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Back when the ABC was relevant and independant. Nowadays its so left wing and biased, just a sad facsimile of its former self.

    • @mikevale3620
      @mikevale3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ABC is only left wing to those on the right wing...funny that!

    • @Leosarebetter
      @Leosarebetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikevale3620 Only the left wing are so blind they can not and will not see...funny that!

    • @mikevale3620
      @mikevale3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Leosarebetter Anyhow, I'm proudly left wing and happy to strongly support the government of my state. It's good to have a worthwhile cause and to advocate for progressive social policies.

    • @Leosarebetter
      @Leosarebetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikevale3620 God help us.

    • @mikevale3620
      @mikevale3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Leosarebetter It's a pity your thinking is so antiquated. I'm unsure why you think being a 'lefty' is akin to living life like a communist or something. If that's how you rationalise being a lefty you are WAY off the mark. Bear in mind it's the right wing extremists who elected Trump and believe his utter lies about the US election being rigged, even thought it's Trumps own party that oversaw the elections in the majority of the states he lost government in. This is the primary reason his legal cases have been laughed out of the courts.

  • @nathanbevan8657
    @nathanbevan8657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Real cars not garbage

  • @SeanCleverly
    @SeanCleverly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an awesome doco, thanks very much for sharing this wonderful insight into our motor racing history!

  • @glennt69lol
    @glennt69lol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My surname is also Turner....
    I already love big Al

  • @johnnyvanderhelm4414
    @johnnyvanderhelm4414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great cars good motoring history, the sound and exhaust note from all the engines must've been epic.

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sound of a V8 still stirs my blood. My wheel chair one day will have a V8 sound.

  • @Thunder-cx4yq
    @Thunder-cx4yq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This needs to be on tv a week before Bathurst

  • @hoey3510
    @hoey3510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rip 🙏 john ellis

  • @oo0Spyder0oo
    @oo0Spyder0oo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pity the charger didn't get a home grown v8 in it and keep the big 3 alive.

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Check out what the USA racing scene was like, you have WYNNS friction modifiers, which FORD used to hand out as part of the service kits for the FORD Australian built cars, now to find a WYNNS Service kit in a FORD these days is almost impossible. :) I know because i used to work for WYNNS in Melbourne Selling Wynns Engineering Friction Modifiers for Hi End friction applications, back in 2001 :)

  • @PittwaterMowingAustralia
    @PittwaterMowingAustralia 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great movie I enjoyed watching

  • @fredwilson8326
    @fredwilson8326 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    its a bare looking place as we look back from 2016

    • @daniellennon4275
      @daniellennon4275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      its a shopping centre now as we look back in 2019 😢😢😢

  • @TheFoMoFo
    @TheFoMoFo 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was great thank you.......... memories

  • @nickjensen5867
    @nickjensen5867 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big budgets in 1970. Race officials waving the cars through using table tennis bats at 3:00 to 3:05 in this footage!

  • @bobbythompson3544
    @bobbythompson3544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the great privelege of meeting Harry Firth at Melbourne during the Formula One week, introduced to me by another dear friend Trevor Fry, who has passed on, an absolute gentleman!

  • @Mr357Cleveland
    @Mr357Cleveland 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great stuff, thanks for posting.

  • @petergiourelas3753
    @petergiourelas3753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bring back the charger best of era

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Hey Charger". My 265 could tell you some stories to make you laugh.

  • @hoey3510
    @hoey3510 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    amazing old footage from an era long gone,,, the good old days

  • @jamiehope4580
    @jamiehope4580 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chrysler problem they seemed half arsed about it and didn't have the budget for racing or proper marketing

  • @pauldunlea6745
    @pauldunlea6745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ho Ho Ho !

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been inside the WIRE, back when i worked for A company selling Aerospace Metals & WYNNS, it was the FORDS R & D offices back in 1998 to 2001 ?

  • @PUNCHARD800ftlb
    @PUNCHARD800ftlb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why is it so hard to find out about what really happened to all the so called super scare cars and parts especially all the chrysler bits they shipped over from usa

  • @happivaras
    @happivaras ปีที่แล้ว

    17:46~17:52 alanis if you're watching That's Irony.

  • @Bims-t5b
    @Bims-t5b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish that super100mph still made videos

  • @brubakervideo2145
    @brubakervideo2145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The ABC used to be great... used to be.

  • @shackleton274
    @shackleton274 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'Rolls royce a funny backyard place"

  • @newson7248
    @newson7248 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Al Tunrer = Mr Suave

    • @captainkaos754
      @captainkaos754 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Alan Moffat was mr arrogant up himself smart arse.

  • @jakebrown6291
    @jakebrown6291 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That 4 corners theme was a good tune.

  • @vwgurkan
    @vwgurkan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Down under racing..

  • @falseprofit4u
    @falseprofit4u 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Race on Sunday sell on Monday
    When Aussie pride meant something!!!! And mr. Average could and did get into it,,,,, nowadays only the mega rich and the primadonna soy boy tribe are in charge.
    Waste of time watching it especially when I knew it as it was.!!!!!

    • @jonglewongle3438
      @jonglewongle3438 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aussie pride ? its only ever been Ford and General Motors.

  • @kdkd693
    @kdkd693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved that

  • @bogged2theeyeballs695
    @bogged2theeyeballs695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pretty sure the factory where Ford prepared their race cars is still there in Keon Pde, Thomastown. Victoria.
    It's also interesting to note that Harry Firth originally drove for Ford and also became the Team Manager later moving to the Holden Dealer Team.
    He won the 1962 Armstrong 500 (at Phillip Island) in a Ford Works Team Ford Falcon XL with Bob Jane and again in 1963 (first time held at Bathurst) with Bob Jane in a MK1 Ford Cortina GT. ( This actually made it a hat trick of wins because he also won the Amstrong 500 at Phillip Island with Bob Jane in 1961 in a Mercedes Benz 220SE before joining Ford.) Finally, again winning the Gallagher 500 (Bathurst) in 1967 with Fred Gibson in a Ford Falcon XRGT.

  • @alansutherland7680
    @alansutherland7680 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    racism there no ethnic rep

  • @trishave5639
    @trishave5639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Win on Sunday, sell on monday.

  • @mortenfrosthansen84
    @mortenfrosthansen84 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mood and temperament of people, is very very much similar, to how Danish people behave and talk
    Edit*
    If Denmark were to be a cartoon character, it would be a mouse. Kinda like the ones from Cinderella. Cautious and sparse but courageous

  • @glendooer6211
    @glendooer6211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And here we are 2020 all these makes gone.

    • @Darndiddlyarn
      @Darndiddlyarn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bit sad how they've all died, so glad I've got a couple aussie V8s in my shed.

  • @mk1cortinatony395
    @mk1cortinatony395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow they tried hard to play down the factory efforts, whilst in the US they rammed it into people winning sells lol

  • @timdingleakajacksparrow2748
    @timdingleakajacksparrow2748 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remembered those cars as A Kid ( My Father was a motoring Writer for the Age at the time ) And he would bring home a different new car most weeks , Lots of memories ⁉️👍👍👍😂

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wheres bill Bourkes XW NOW, RE: the 429 Beast that was seen along the geelong freeway doing over 150 miles per hour, think about it for a second a 429 Shelby did not even do that speed, also i am not a FORD man, it just proves that those people who own GT GTHO'S push the price up & at one time you needed over $1,000.000 to buy an total original un painted un restored with low KM original HO, yet the same car now you can get for just over 300,000 ? YET HOLDENS Winning cars at the same time period, were going for chips Talk about control over the market, i feeel that these days its evened out a little, i should have kept my Gold XB GT, but in saying that they are going for about 30 to 40K in original Condition. :)

    • @simonaniere2578
      @simonaniere2578 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Bill Bourke special was a 428 Cobrajet not a 429

    • @markaylott1780
      @markaylott1780 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      7071t6, the 429 was NOT installed in any AUSTRALIAN factory built ford!

    • @BCBtrucks64
      @BCBtrucks64 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mark the xw of bill bourke was a special sent over to america and fitted out with the big block 428 cobra jet and shaker in black and gold stripe and still lives fully restored in australia ' read about it in australian muscle car mag

    • @mickden3155
      @mickden3155 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BCBtrucks64 I have been in the Bill Bourke xw gtho it was for sale in Adelaide in approx 1979 they had the article from the car magazine that it was in years earlier in the widow to show who's car it had been. It was the only auto gtho made it was black with a fine silver metallic flake it had xa style high back bucket seats shaker 428 bb ford and gtho badge on the glove box lid it had vaccum tank etc big36 gal fuel tank i wanted to buy it but couldn't raise the money at the time but about a year later i did buy a genuine jg33 xy gt nugget gold with a 4 speed ......cheers

    • @johnstano7202
      @johnstano7202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A mate of mines son inlaw has the XW 429 up in Brisbane in his garage uninsured

  • @dazwall5092
    @dazwall5092 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cheers

  • @MrStevie57
    @MrStevie57 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved those days.

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. My younger brother is still jealous of my Hemi 265 after 40 years. He has a modern XR8 and tells me it would kick the ass of my old car. I dont say anything, just wonder. Does he ring my Grandfather and brag that his XR8 is faster than a Model T Ford?

    • @MrStevie57
      @MrStevie57 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darylburnet8328 haha,I think the 265 was the fastest at one stage.I had a 318 V8 and wrote it off.

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrStevie57 The 318 was a kick ass motor. I agree, give me a 318 anyday. In the Snowy mountains a friend had a 318 Valiant VC with a 318. Im still jealous.

    • @darylburnet8328
      @darylburnet8328 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrStevie57 Also, 6 cylinders go hard but V8s last longer.

  • @neil2550
    @neil2550 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool

  • @richardnixon4345
    @richardnixon4345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Fox would have seen more if he had trimmed his eyebrows 😀

  • @Stllno
    @Stllno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those were the days… from the showroom to the race track

  • @gaycha6589
    @gaycha6589 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that a syrup he is sporting? Very natty.

  • @philippbehrend5559
    @philippbehrend5559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just to be clear, the track at 5:33 isn't Bathurst but Oran Park, correct?

    • @flamingfrancis
      @flamingfrancis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, this was the early circuit before the flyover was added on.

  • @Detroit8V92tta
    @Detroit8V92tta 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The lean and squeal brigade!