I really wish Riddick would have gotten more love over the years. Yes there are three movies, and a great game, but the universe felt like it had so much more to offer.
3 films, 3 games, 1 animated movie and another film planned. Honestly it gets way more love than most sci-fi films get, especially with its weak box office performances
@@giovannigio3764 i remember i bought disc when it come out, and then at home i got error at some point i come back to a store and dude gave me instruction what file i need to rewrite, i was like why you didnt give me this when selling it, anyway it worked and i finished game :D there is another one come out dark athena, need refresh butcher bay and try dark athena
You got to give the movie credit for this: it tried to establish a pretty creative universe for itself. In Pitch Black, we really didn’t know much about this universe the characters were living in except that there was a place called New Mecca, and there were mercenaries and bounty hunters searching for escaped convicts and killers like Riddick, and that the particular planet they were on had nocturnal predators. CoR, for all its shortcomings, really blew the possibilities of this universe wide open.
I remember behind the scenes and this what you said was actual directors and writers over all idea: To expande the universe of the Riddick instead of making another "escape the planet" movie.
That's why this is my favorite in the series. The sheer creative genius of this universe. I suppose it plays a little more like fantasy than sci-fi, but if you assume telepathy is real, everything else sort of fits in. Plus the set and costume work is outstanding
@@FallenRingbearer Since the Blood Hunter has some weird mechanics and is "unique" to Critical Role, I would doubt it. It may have inspired to a degree but I don't think they are closely related. My understanding is that the character was based on old D&D rules, which the Blood Hunter never existed for.
That's the ultimate fucking achievement for a dnd nerd. In pretty sure you're thinking of the Last Witch Hunter, trash movie but made with such heart that I don't feel right talking shit about it.
The theatrical release omitted the whole vision sequence of the Furian girl, the racial vengeance arc, and the physical mark. It tightened up the story and left Riddick's infant background to be deduced from the (copious) story clues. It focused the story on Riddick himself vs. the Lord Marshal as sort of Biblical retribution, and as personal vengeance for the Imam and Jack, rather than destiny. And it returned the surprise of the last moment reveal of the Purifier as a Furian ("The Furian in me hopes...").
Agreed. If I could have the Director's Cut without all the stupid Furyan crap, that'd be close to the best version possible of the movie. The theatrical cut likewise doesn't have the introduction scene with Jack/Kira in the cages, a scene I rather like.
I am torn about ranking "Pitch Black" and "The Chronicles of Riddick". Mainly because in TCOR, you got an explanation about who Riddick is and why he is such a good killer. But my very favorite movie, so far, is "Riddick". Hands down. Can' t wait for your reaction.
Ambition seems a good description - it doesn't quite pull it off as good as you'd but it was really trying to do something. Expanding the universe, creative designs (the Necromangers are really something IMO, though the Crematorian Guard-Panthers aren't bad either), some really good actors.
The eyeshine is described as a genetic trait exclusively inherited by Alpha Furyans like Riddick, whom is also stronger than the others. While all Furyans possess peak human physiology, the Alphas are known to be damn near, if not outright, superhuman. Not all Furyans possess this gene. The game is canon but the films retconned the games as Jack points out nothing he told her about the prison was true when it came to the eyeshine. In the game we never see Riddick get his eyeshine surgery as he described it. All the surgeon did was stitch up his wound. Riddick who knew NOTHING of his Furyan heritage simply attributed it to the surgeon as an explanation. He was wrong. Vaako even tells Riddick he fought a Furyan during the genocide that possessed the same eyes as him, further proving it is a natural trait.
That doesn't really make sense, because he didn't have those eyes in the flashback. Considering the game The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay was released alongside this movie, I doubt the "movie retconned the games" The game was there to tie into the movie, like many games come out when the movie does, so to claim the game supersedes the movie is a bit incorrect. The rights belong to the film production house, so the games would be the ones that are less "canon" than the movies. Honestly, Kira's logic is so messed up, why would what Riddick say be true? 1. Its not like every prison has a doctor like that. 2. Odds of ending up in that specific prison is unlikely at best 3. Odds of the doctor still being there, also unlikely. The way he phrased it in Pitch Black was perhaps the doctor was also a prisoner, hence being paid in cigarettes, so its unreasonable to expect her to find that same person.
@@TearDownGenesis This is all lore which retconned Riddick's origin story, if you played the game you'd see that Riddick got his eyeshine after having a vision of Shirah. The prison doctor had nothing to do with it and was confused when Riddick confronted him about it. Also the fact that Vaako fought another Furyan during the genocide whom possessed this same feature shows that it is a natural trait. We see the Furyans are capable of transferring some sort of spiritual energy between one another, as Riddick also received his Wrath of The Furyans ability after yet another vision from Shirah. So Riddick's eyeshine activating after being spiritually visited by Shirah is not so unbelievable. Also Vin Diesel was closely involved in the making of both video games and even wrote the scripts. This is literally his lore for the character of Riddick. He owns the franchise and approved the retcons.
What if the eye shine happens when a Alpha Furyan hits full puberty like say when Riddick was about to become full fledged Furyan adult the eye change was starting to happen and with the changing process comes total tempary blindness that's where the training in using the other Furyan Super senses come into play Hearing, Smelling, and touch
@@TearDownGenesis He got it in prison. It's the same eyes as the cats. The third movie changed the story about his eyes. :( Clearly a bunch of idiots made the third film.
When you said, " that's an aggressive entry" I blurted out, "that's what she said" haha, couldn't help it. My gf laughed. Good times... we love y'alls channel, good movie choice
Zhylaw isn't an elemental he manipuates the power of his soul, lord marshals take a trip into the underverse and return half alive, half dead and can manipulate their soulpower he is super fast because he can detach his soul from his body, when he moces his soul his body than follows it at a near instant speed
This movie is way under-rated. It's my favorite of the Riddick movies and I felt it ended just right. Yes, it embraces its inner Conan, which is why it can seem like fantasy, but it still does so in a sci-fi manner. I think Robert E Howard fans really dig this one for that reason.
it was stated in the beginning that the lord marshal made a trip to the under verse and came back as half human half something else. that is how he got his powers and knows about the under verse.
There is also an animated movie, “Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury” that is a direct follow up to Pitch Black and I believe connects to the Butcher Bay video game.
The eyes do not happen for every furian. It's like in the new mortal Kombat when they discover their arcana. It is a sign of a great warrior when it does happen.
The Lord Marshall is not an Elemental, he is what the Necros call HALF-DEAD He has the ability to astro project his literal soul to many different places including the UNDERVERSE.....
Tell your dad I said "awesome work!" if he's still around. The artistic direction and style of this film is really one of the greatest things about it - it's so visually inventive!
Hello, this is actually consider the 3rd part of the series if you count Dark Fury. It is an animated 30 mins video picking up right after Pitch Black. You should watch it to understand the beginning of Chronicles and a bit behind the Tomb's character. Great series and I love watching all of your videos and both of your reactions.
Best way I've heard the transition from Pitch Black to Chronicles of Riddick: "It's like watching Alien, and then when the blue-collar space-trucker gets back home, you find out she's from fucking Narnia or something."
Greatest movie ever made! I love the directors cut with all the riddickulous facts and geeky back story Dude with knife in the back had a whole storyline written.
I might be one of the only people in the world that saw this in theaters twice. Once when it came out and then again on my birthday. That's how much I like it
There is something about these three movies that really paint a realism but also a really cool universe that could be expanded on endlessly it was also very engrossing
Necro is the Latin word for course, dead body, death, etc Monger is another Latin for trader, seller, merchant, etc. The word monger was actually a very good word to use but after the 16th century it got a 2nd meaning. Basically to describe someone like to spread lies and rumors for their own gain and push a certain agenda or someone that does bad stuff. Like a warmonger, wh-0remonger, etc.
This is one of my favorite movies. I love Riddick as a "super hero" and the world and lore and everything! There's a real lack of expansive sci-fi fantasy movies out there, and Riddick would've definitely deserved more attention and additional movies or a tv show or something.
@@literalsarcasm1830 The Chronicles of Riddick feature film) leads an unrelenting genocidal assault on Furya in an attempt to void his fate divulged to him by an Elemental (a fate that dictated he would be killed by a young male Furyan). Pharaoh, who fears a born son who will supplant him........... You need to read. The Book Of Exodus might be a start. I'm an Atheist, you know not what you're talking about.
riddick wasn’t in a conversion chamber they were scanning his brain for memories hence why they said dont struggle n let them scan his brain without a fight
I really don't understand why this movie isn't considered head and shoulders above *Pitch Black.* The world and story have such epic potential, much more than a monsters in the dark movie.
There are several scenes in this version that was not in the movie. Seeing his mother and the self-detonation blast was not in the movie as I recall and I saw the original many times.
he actually DID get eye surgery. the video game Escape From Butchers Bay tells the whole story. it's an old game but it was really wonderful at the time. vin diesel and the guy who plays Johns did some great voice acting in it
@@wilder11 How is surgically acquired eyes more interesting for Riddick? If he was human the surgery thing would be more interesting but he's an alien, (he's an evolved human but still isn't from Earth like his ancestors.)
I love this movie! I never understood why a bigger franchise wasn't formed around this universe. The Necromongers kind of remind me of the "Imperium of Man" from Warhammer 40K.
I say this as a fan of the series: the story of this movie kinda sucks. It manages to be both overly complicated and silly at the same time. It's like they followed up the original Star Wars with The Phantom Menace.
You should have seen Karl Urban when he was in Xena: Warrior Princess where he played Julius Caesar. Gid was he ever young back in the 90s. Oddly enough, he would go on to play two more characters in that show, one a kind of ideologue to Cain and Abel (in which he was the eldest son who tried to use non religious ways to convince his father to kill his second youngest son) and he also played Cupid, the son of Aphrodite, a Greek God, It was also his main acting debut in that show.
Even though the 4th movie isn't out yet there is more on Riddick there was also 2 video games and an animated movie on Riddick and there might of been a comic or novel or something as well can't remember for sure on that but anyway to put Riddicks story in order the 2 video games chronicles of Riddick escape from butcher Bay which is a prequel to pitch black and happened before pitch black cause it shows how he got those eyes that allows him to see in the dark than there was the second video game chronicles of Riddick assault on dark Athena which continued after escape from butcher Bay than pitch black came after that than the animated movie the chronicles of Riddick dark fury which bridges the gap between the first and 2 movie cause it continues where pitch black ends before the chronicles of Riddick begins than you have Riddick than the 4th movie chronicles of Riddick furya
from what i read on riddick wiki every furyan during war with necromongers killed 100 warriors with gun and 30 with bare hand so yeah Riddick is tough mofo
This is my first time watching you guys, And I love it. It's quaint, it's nice, and I love what's you're name's reactions and your calls are close, you must be a movie nerd XD
Young Karl Urban? Lol! You should see him when he was on Xena: Warrior Princess the 90s TV show! Where he first played Cupid, then later played Julius Caesar.
My favorite of the 3 by far..although for some reason people hate on it. Should have been a huge franchise for this. But hey I like the Star Wars prequels maybe more than the newer ones..I like world building.
There is an explanation of Riddick's eyes in a game in 2005 called: Riddick Escape from butcher bay. ))) he had to kill the top dog & implant it's eyes for a chance in his escaping efforts...it definitely worked out nice.)))
He wasn't an elemental, he's the way he is because he entered the underverse and returned, I think you must have missed that being mentioned at the beginning. in-universe the underverse is actually real, they're not just a crazy cult. its why he was referred to as 'a holy half dead who's seen the underverse' its some kind of pilgrimage thing their leaders are all expected to do when they assume power
There was an animated movie The Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury that was made with Vin Diesel doing the voiceover. The movie took place between pitch-black and this movie.
Actually many don’t know or choose to ignore but Chronicles of Riddick is third movie within the franchise, second film of PITCH BLACK was PITCH BLACK 2: DARK FURY animated version which follows their journey from the planet and ends up in deep space where they run into trouble then Riddick leaves young jack with the gentleman who escaped with them that leads us to the next movie where the girl jack aka KARA is all grown up and the man is back with his family in Numaka city (I think). *On that note, it’s understandable that the animated version got lost in translation since it’s not very favorable b/c its production quality was so early 2000s dark horse animation.* Fourth one is just titled RIDDICK.
"I'm Vin Diesel, and I never bathed until I found Necromonger soap. Now I use it to clean the whole of the Under-where... I haven't smelled beautiful in a long time!" -Necromonger, truly a soap of soaps!
Actually I liked this movies a lot more than Pitch Black, the universe and story looked very promising. What you hate is what I liked. I wished to see a continuation of this , would be very interesting to see what Riddick would do now that he is in charge of a whole army.
23:07 When you go into cryosleep in this Universe, your whole brain goes to sleep except the more primal part of it, the animal part. Because Riddick is more animal than most, he can remain fully conscious unlike most. The girl woke up but she was still under the effects slightly and thus controlled by her animalistic instincts. Since Riddick is clearly the most alpha male in there, she tried to mate with him as per instructed by her animal instincts...
Oh you watched the special edition there's a lot of movies where they cut out the right stuff for the theatrical cut. This is one of them. You should also watch Dark Fury, It fits in between pitch black and the Chronicles of Riddick
I have always respected how straight up nerdy this movie is. Its not just a sci fi universe, its a deep lore, elemental witch ladies, undead empires, bio technology universe. It just throws you into it, like yeah you liked that low budget horror about a killer, here have this long epic about space politics and a killer. I find myself sort of intrigued by the sci fi lore, but its just so out of nowhere feeling.
Yeah, this was the first movie I saw of the franchise. I thought it was a standalone, with a weird name, and assumed the references to the first movie weren't really references, but exposition. I didn't find out about Pitch Black until years later. And then the third one came out and I wasn't even aware of that one either for quite a while.
Fun Fact: Thandiwe Newton, the actress who places Dame Vaako, is the mother of Nico Parker, the girl who played Sarah in the live action "The Last of Us" tv show.
This is not the second part of the Riddick story, there is an animated installment called dark fury that ties pitch black and chronicles of Riddick together and shows how Jack/kira evolved.
There is actually another movie ( Dark Fury) that takes place between pitch black and the Chronicles of Riddick. But due to budget it was a cartoon with the three main characters being voiced by the actors.
The next one is my favorite.The story’s simple,but I thought it was fun.Expect to see another personality in it that you both know from a well loved science-fiction property.
This is one of my favorite cult classic franchises. I’m a massive Vin Diesel fan. I just love the way he is such a stoic actor and yet carries such a presence. That’s not an easy skill to master. But this sequel made me so angry when it killed off Jack. I don’t understand the decision from any level. Storyline wise it’s stupid. Riddick doesn’t make any big moves after she dies. He kills the Lord Marshal because she was wounded trying to save him. But Jack didn’t have to die for the story to continue. She could have been close to death and her fate left to be revealed in the third film. Shock-factor wise, again stupid. The shock comes when Jack is tossed into the spikes, not when she dies. Her actual moment of death isn’t even lingered on. Only his reaction is. She dies, he puts her down and sits down in devastation. Character arc wise , absolutely asinine. Adult Jack is a great character that had so much potential. And her on-screen chemistry with Riddick made this movie. If the studio was worried that an adult Jack would be seen more as a love interest than a younger sister, then they clearly did not understand Riddick in Pitch Black. Or in this film. Nothing about the Riddick-Jack/Kyra scenes ever said sexual tension. He is a rough man who uses violence to prove points, but he never treats Jack/Kyra like he wants to get her into bed. Even the arm between her legs scene is only a move to immobilize her so she can’t fight. All he ever seems to have on his mind is keeping her in line-like father to a daughter-and keeping her protected. Which is why he gets so angry when he finds out she was turned into a sex slave at 12. Jack/Kyra was a pitch-perfect screen partner for Riddick. The franchise did her wrong. She should have survived this movie. And maybe even the whole franchise. I even would have been more than fine with only sporadic appearances in the franchise after CoR because she’s recovering from her injuries or fighting the Necromonger reprogramming, or Riddick forced her to go into hiding. Something besides death. Another cult classic franchise did the same thing-kill off the child the protagonist saved/protected in the first movie as soon as she became an adult in the sequel. I can’t say which one because you might watch it one day. But it was just as stupid a story choice there too. It meant nothing to the plot or the franchise to lose her. And it should have meant everything.
Everything you said I agree with.......but it doesn't help that every shot in the film with Kyra is sexualized and she's sweaty the entire time (personally the best thing about her and partly why I love her in this, the actress is hot) so it detracts away from her as a character being a person, that scene with the 3 guys touching on her was not necessary other than to make it sexual and it went on way too long, which broke away from the action(which worked for horny guys like me but for the wrong reasons to show she's a badass)
@@ninjanibba4259 I have to point out that Jack/Kyra was not the only actor sweating. Every single actor during the scenes on Crematoria is made to look sweaty. Their clothes have wet stains, their hair is stringy and damp, their skin shiny, and "sweat" drips off their faces during close up shots. In the arm-bar scene between Riddick and Jack, for instance, Vin Diesel has fake sweat dripping off his eyewear and nose. Regarding the Jack assault scene with the 3 men... I don't think the point of the scene was to show Jack was a badass at all. Rather, it was to prove that despite her skills she was always going to be vulnerable when she went up against male fight partners that were larger and stronger than her. This point is hammered home twice: when she gets overpowered by the 3 men and again when she stabs the Lord Marshall and is thrown into the spikes. What happens both times? She needs Riddick to finish her fight. I think the film did this not because she was female but because she was overconfident and had minimal experience compared to everyone else she fought. Was that particular type of assault necessary? Normally I'd agree with you that it was not. But I think it was for this specific character. It all goes back to her history as a sex slave. She was touched for years without her consent, used, abused, traumatized again and again from a young age. Once she got free, men touching her without consent became her berserk button. I think it makes her feel vulnerable and helpless again, which messes with her focus when fighting--we see that in the 3 men scene. So she lashes out violently, trying to incapacitate her attacker. The only man who can touch her without her consent is clearly Riddick. Because she trusts him completely, even in his violent moments. He is also the only man in the movie who treats a woman like his equal.
@@kailyns8159 I understand it better now that you fleshed it out more clearer with her in the prison, it was always shaky to me thinking about it cuz the movie barely focused on it, so it came off as something else
Riddick is kind of a Conan type character, very few of His friends make it through the tales alive. You meet the Red Sonja to his Conan in the next movie.
3:50 comment, coughing Parlour [fat finger flubb...ParK!our-EMJ] when anyone across movies jumps or actions right, is like,, the best!!-Ernie Moore Jr. 3:57
I really wish Riddick would have gotten more love over the years. Yes there are three movies, and a great game, but the universe felt like it had so much more to offer.
Furya is supposed to start filming this year so hopefully it doesn't disappoint.
3 films, 3 games, 1 animated movie and another film planned. Honestly it gets way more love than most sci-fi films get, especially with its weak box office performances
@@dantesilvermine5160 As long as he keeps making the F&F movies the studio will let him do his passion projects.
@@descatusat7682 Can't wait for Furya! Been waiting 10 years now following every scrap of news I can find!
The original plan was for there to be a Furya movie and then a Underverse movie where Riddick goes to the underverse
Best part of this review was the line, "Parkour!!!" every time Riddick was running lol
The third time i said it synchronous with her. 😄
the best part is, hes not even doing parkour.
" I disband this weird group, go home!" First and last commands of the new Lord Marshall LMAO
i always had a soft spot for this movie, i love the whole prison sequence.
Than is Riddick: Escape from Butcherbay the game for you.
“I’d take the money, Toombs!”
@@giovannigio3764 i remember i bought disc when it come out, and then at home i got error at some point i come back to a store and dude gave me instruction what file i need to rewrite, i was like why you didnt give me this when selling it, anyway it worked and i finished game :D there is another one come out dark athena, need refresh butcher bay and try dark athena
You got to give the movie credit for this: it tried to establish a pretty creative universe for itself. In Pitch Black, we really didn’t know much about this universe the characters were living in except that there was a place called New Mecca, and there were mercenaries and bounty hunters searching for escaped convicts and killers like Riddick, and that the particular planet they were on had nocturnal predators. CoR, for all its shortcomings, really blew the possibilities of this universe wide open.
I remember behind the scenes and this what you said was actual directors and writers over all idea: To expande the universe of the Riddick instead of making another "escape the planet" movie.
That's why this is my favorite in the series.
The sheer creative genius of this universe.
I suppose it plays a little more like fantasy than sci-fi, but if you assume telepathy is real, everything else sort of fits in.
Plus the set and costume work is outstanding
The first movie was just our universe in the future.
You even had Muslim missionaries
eh its not that creative. necromongers are basically the borg with medieval christian crusaders and islamic jihadist militants thrown in
Fun fact, Riddick was based on one of Vin Diesel's player characters in Dungeons & Dragons.
You might be thinking of The Last Witch Hunter
@@johnberg9497 Didn't that further morph into the Blood Hunter class? I might be wrong though.
@@FallenRingbearer Since the Blood Hunter has some weird mechanics and is "unique" to Critical Role, I would doubt it. It may have inspired to a degree but I don't think they are closely related. My understanding is that the character was based on old D&D rules, which the Blood Hunter never existed for.
That's the ultimate fucking achievement for a dnd nerd. In pretty sure you're thinking of the Last Witch Hunter, trash movie but made with such heart that I don't feel right talking shit about it.
The theatrical release omitted the whole vision sequence of the Furian girl, the racial vengeance arc, and the physical mark. It tightened up the story and left Riddick's infant background to be deduced from the (copious) story clues. It focused the story on Riddick himself vs. the Lord Marshal as sort of Biblical retribution, and as personal vengeance for the Imam and Jack, rather than destiny. And it returned the surprise of the last moment reveal of the Purifier as a Furian ("The Furian in me hopes...").
Agreed. If I could have the Director's Cut without all the stupid Furyan crap, that'd be close to the best version possible of the movie. The theatrical cut likewise doesn't have the introduction scene with Jack/Kira in the cages, a scene I rather like.
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I am torn about ranking "Pitch Black" and "The Chronicles of Riddick". Mainly because in TCOR, you got an explanation about who Riddick is and why he is such a good killer. But my very favorite movie, so far, is "Riddick". Hands down. Can' t wait for your reaction.
Love the ambition of this movie, shame it didnt take off. Love how much they attempted to expand the series.
Ambition seems a good description - it doesn't quite pull it off as good as you'd but it was really trying to do something. Expanding the universe, creative designs (the Necromangers are really something IMO, though the Crematorian Guard-Panthers aren't bad either), some really good actors.
Oh man, i love her commentary🤣. the way she say "Parkour'' just gets me
The eyeshine is described as a genetic trait exclusively inherited by Alpha Furyans like Riddick, whom is also stronger than the others. While all Furyans possess peak human physiology, the Alphas are known to be damn near, if not outright, superhuman. Not all Furyans possess this gene. The game is canon but the films retconned the games as Jack points out nothing he told her about the prison was true when it came to the eyeshine. In the game we never see Riddick get his eyeshine surgery as he described it. All the surgeon did was stitch up his wound. Riddick who knew NOTHING of his Furyan heritage simply attributed it to the surgeon as an explanation. He was wrong. Vaako even tells Riddick he fought a Furyan during the genocide that possessed the same eyes as him, further proving it is a natural trait.
in the games? dont tell me thr is a bk. the target audience dont strike me as 'readers.' _JC
That doesn't really make sense, because he didn't have those eyes in the flashback.
Considering the game The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay was released alongside this movie, I doubt the "movie retconned the games"
The game was there to tie into the movie, like many games come out when the movie does, so to claim the game supersedes the movie is a bit incorrect. The rights belong to the film production house, so the games would be the ones that are less "canon" than the movies.
Honestly, Kira's logic is so messed up, why would what Riddick say be true?
1. Its not like every prison has a doctor like that.
2. Odds of ending up in that specific prison is unlikely at best
3. Odds of the doctor still being there, also unlikely.
The way he phrased it in Pitch Black was perhaps the doctor was also a prisoner, hence being paid in cigarettes, so its unreasonable to expect her to find that same person.
@@TearDownGenesis This is all lore which retconned Riddick's origin story, if you played the game you'd see that Riddick got his eyeshine after having a vision of Shirah. The prison doctor had nothing to do with it and was confused when Riddick confronted him about it. Also the fact that Vaako fought another Furyan during the genocide whom possessed this same feature shows that it is a natural trait. We see the Furyans are capable of transferring some sort of spiritual energy between one another, as Riddick also received his Wrath of The Furyans ability after yet another vision from Shirah. So Riddick's eyeshine activating after being spiritually visited by Shirah is not so unbelievable. Also Vin Diesel was closely involved in the making of both video games and even wrote the scripts. This is literally his lore for the character of Riddick. He owns the franchise and approved the retcons.
What if the eye shine happens when a Alpha Furyan hits full puberty like say when Riddick was about to become full fledged Furyan adult the eye change was starting to happen and with the changing process comes total tempary blindness that's where the training in using the other Furyan Super senses come into play Hearing, Smelling, and touch
@@TearDownGenesis He got it in prison. It's the same eyes as the cats. The third movie changed the story about his eyes. :( Clearly a bunch of idiots made the third film.
When you said, " that's an aggressive entry" I blurted out, "that's what she said" haha, couldn't help it. My gf laughed. Good times... we love y'alls channel, good movie choice
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Zhylaw isn't an elemental he manipuates the power of his soul, lord marshals take a trip into the underverse and return half alive, half dead and can manipulate their soulpower he is super fast because he can detach his soul from his body, when he moces his soul his body than follows it at a near instant speed
48:25 - "he doesn't like to hang out with others"
Definitely the elementary school "plays well with others" vibe.
This movie is way under-rated. It's my favorite of the Riddick movies and I felt it ended just right. Yes, it embraces its inner Conan, which is why it can seem like fantasy, but it still does so in a sci-fi manner. I think Robert E Howard fans really dig this one for that reason.
Agree, it gives strong Conan vibes
it was stated in the beginning that the lord marshal made a trip to the under verse and came back as half human half something else. that is how he got his powers and knows about the under verse.
„Look, I'm not with everyone here. But I will take a piece of him.“
A piece you will have.
40:30
"The Necromonger in me, warns you not to go back
But the Furyan in me.....Hopes you won't listen"
"The necromonger in my warns you not to go back, but the Furian in my hopes you won't listen."*
Perfect time to remind you that Riddick was Vin Deisel's D&D character.
The set design and overall design is just so fantastic, very unique and cool universe. And riddick being the ultimate badass is always cool
There is also an animated movie, “Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury” that is a direct follow up to Pitch Black and I believe connects to the Butcher Bay video game.
glad im not the only one remembered there was an anime 😎👍
I thought game is supposed to happen before pitch black
18:56 "They must not be able to convert him."
"He's too strong."
Yeah, Riddickulously so. 😎
The eyes do not happen for every furian. It's like in the new mortal Kombat when they discover their arcana. It is a sign of a great warrior when it does happen.
Eyes are from surgery.
The Lord Marshall is not an Elemental, he is what the Necros call HALF-DEAD He has the ability to astro project his literal soul to many different places including the UNDERVERSE.....
My dad worked on this movie he did a lot of Matte paintings in it, I'm excited for this video
Tell your dad I said "awesome work!" if he's still around. The artistic direction and style of this film is really one of the greatest things about it - it's so visually inventive!
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The lord-marshall isn't an elemental, he's a half-dead. He was given powers by exposing himself to the Under-verse
Hello, this is actually consider the 3rd part of the series if you count Dark Fury. It is an animated 30 mins video picking up right after Pitch Black. You should watch it to understand the beginning of Chronicles and a bit behind the Tomb's character. Great series and I love watching all of your videos and both of your reactions.
Vin Diesel was such a fan of Judi Dench that he filled her entire dressing room with roses to entice her to be in the movie,
The girl who plays Kira is in the tv show Angel she plays a comic book character called Gwen Raiden.
Best way I've heard the transition from Pitch Black to Chronicles of Riddick: "It's like watching Alien, and then when the blue-collar space-trucker gets back home, you find out she's from fucking Narnia or something."
Greatest movie ever made!
I love the directors cut with all the riddickulous facts and geeky back story
Dude with knife in the back had a whole storyline written.
This is my favorite Riddick movie, it's so good.
I might be one of the only people in the world that saw this in theaters twice. Once when it came out and then again on my birthday. That's how much I like it
Finally, this movie is getting recognized 🔥🔥
I've been begging so many people to review it
Boooooo, Flash Gordon forever!
@@projectdelta50 Same!!!
Its because its on Netflix right now. Thats why any movie gets "recognized". Same thing happened with the movie I, Frankenstein
There is something about these three movies that really paint a realism but also a really cool universe that could be expanded on endlessly it was also very engrossing
Realism? Necromongers and Furyians… ok
30:11 Necros call everyone still alive and able to have children breeders
Necro is the Latin word for course, dead body, death, etc Monger is another Latin for trader, seller, merchant, etc. The word monger was actually a very good word to use but after the 16th century it got a 2nd meaning. Basically to describe someone like to spread lies and rumors for their own gain and push a certain agenda or someone that does bad stuff. Like a warmonger, wh-0remonger, etc.
Oh it's been a while since I watched this one but it will be a pleasure to revisit it with you two. This ought to be good. :)
This is one of my favorite movies. I love Riddick as a "super hero" and the world and lore and everything! There's a real lack of expansive sci-fi fantasy movies out there, and Riddick would've definitely deserved more attention and additional movies or a tv show or something.
Yeeessss wasn’t expecting this so fast. I love riddick. Such a bad ass
Chronicles of Riddick takes place in the Warhammer 40K universe during the stellar exodus. I will die on this hill.
It's a Moses inspired story, your hill is flat.
@@elih9700 a death worlder fights a chaos cult who's leader gains magical powers after a pilgrimage to the warp. Not that flat.
@@literalsarcasm1830 You're entire mythos is inspired by biblical stories.
@@elih9700 my mythos?
@@literalsarcasm1830 The Chronicles of Riddick feature film) leads an unrelenting genocidal assault on Furya in an attempt to void his fate divulged to him by an Elemental (a fate that dictated he would be killed by a young male Furyan).
Pharaoh, who fears a born son who will supplant him...........
You need to read. The Book Of Exodus might be a start.
I'm an Atheist, you know not what you're talking about.
riddick wasn’t in a conversion chamber they were scanning his brain for memories hence why they said dont struggle n let them scan his brain without a fight
I really don't understand why this movie isn't considered head and shoulders above *Pitch Black.*
The world and story have such epic potential, much more than a monsters in the dark movie.
There are several scenes in this version that was not in the movie.
Seeing his mother and the self-detonation blast was not in the movie as I recall and I saw the original many times.
41:08 “Think he waited till the sun went down?” Well seeing as it’s dark-ish as the ship leaves 😂😂😂
he actually DID get eye surgery. the video game Escape From Butchers Bay tells the whole story. it's an old game but it was really wonderful at the time. vin diesel and the guy who plays Johns did some great voice acting in it
No he didn't
@@silenttvshka well i mean, according to the game he did.. i don't know about the official Riddick cannon or whatever
I'm glad this man knew the surgery story was fake and that Riddick has those eyes because he's a specific type of Furyan.
When your fake story is more interesting and LESS CRINGE than the actual? You'd think a screenwriter would rethink the idea.
@@wilder11 How is surgically acquired eyes more interesting for Riddick? If he was human the surgery thing would be more interesting but he's an alien, (he's an evolved human but still isn't from Earth like his ancestors.)
The surgery story is 100% true, there is a game that takes place before Pitch Black. Where Riddick gets the surgery done to his eyes.
@@ezekial7028 Vaako mentioned seeing another Furyan with Riddick's eyes during his time on Furya.
The whole exchange starting around 21:43 had me howling 😂
Chronicles is the finest of the Riddick films and could stand alone as THE Riddick film
This one is my favorite out of the three.
I love this movie!
I never understood why a bigger franchise wasn't formed around this universe.
The Necromongers kind of remind me of the "Imperium of Man" from Warhammer 40K.
Shudd up HERETIC
I say this as a fan of the series: the story of this movie kinda sucks. It manages to be both overly complicated and silly at the same time. It's like they followed up the original Star Wars with The Phantom Menace.
You should have seen Karl Urban when he was in Xena: Warrior Princess where he played Julius Caesar. Gid was he ever young back in the 90s. Oddly enough, he would go on to play two more characters in that show, one a kind of ideologue to Cain and Abel (in which he was the eldest son who tried to use non religious ways to convince his father to kill his second youngest son) and he also played Cupid, the son of Aphrodite, a Greek God, It was also his main acting debut in that show.
Even though the 4th movie isn't out yet there is more on Riddick there was also 2 video games and an animated movie on Riddick and there might of been a comic or novel or something as well can't remember for sure on that but anyway to put Riddicks story in order the 2 video games chronicles of Riddick escape from butcher Bay which is a prequel to pitch black and happened before pitch black cause it shows how he got those eyes that allows him to see in the dark than there was the second video game chronicles of Riddick assault on dark Athena which continued after escape from butcher Bay than pitch black came after that than the animated movie the chronicles of Riddick dark fury which bridges the gap between the first and 2 movie cause it continues where pitch black ends before the chronicles of Riddick begins than you have Riddick than the 4th movie chronicles of Riddick furya
from what i read on riddick wiki every furyan during war with necromongers killed 100 warriors with gun and 30 with bare hand so yeah Riddick is tough mofo
From everything I've seen, the "shine job" story about the eyes in a dark prison seems to hold up, and be the best reason for those eyes!
This is my first time watching you guys, And I love it. It's quaint, it's nice, and I love what's you're name's reactions and your calls are close, you must be a movie nerd XD
I just love that bantering between you two.
Great movie, best in the series. Movie was a sleeper hit when it came out.
Young Karl Urban? Lol! You should see him when he was on Xena: Warrior Princess the 90s TV show! Where he first played Cupid, then later played Julius Caesar.
the main antagonist is not elemental. he go to the underverse and came back, thats why he have this sort of powers.
My favorite of the 3 by far..although for some reason people hate on it. Should have been a huge franchise for this. But hey I like the Star Wars prequels maybe more than the newer ones..I like world building.
This movie is legendary
There is an explanation of Riddick's eyes in a game in 2005 called: Riddick Escape from butcher bay. )))
he had to kill the top dog & implant it's eyes for a chance in his escaping efforts...it definitely worked out nice.)))
This is a fantastic movie and they were like it was alright. 😅
There is also an animated Riddick movie called The Chronicles of Riddick Dark Fury is follows the event from the first film.
03:10 X-monger is a person in the trade of X. e.g cheesemonger, ironmonger. In this case, the ones dealing out death.
I always took: "It's been a long time since I smelled beautiful" as a warning that his personal hygeine had been slipping for a while
He wasn't an elemental, he's the way he is because he entered the underverse and returned, I think you must have missed that being mentioned at the beginning. in-universe the underverse is actually real, they're not just a crazy cult. its why he was referred to as 'a holy half dead who's seen the underverse' its some kind of pilgrimage thing their leaders are all expected to do when they assume power
The bad guys are dead and can only co-op the dead. The living can breed….. hence “Breeders”
No, they're 1/4 dead and don't reproduce they convert because their religion says life is an abomination
There was an animated movie The Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury that was made with Vin Diesel doing the voiceover. The movie took place between pitch-black and this movie.
John Wick might be able to kill someone with a pencil, HAH! Riddick can kill someone with a tea cup!
Actually many don’t know or choose to ignore but Chronicles of Riddick is third movie within the franchise, second film of PITCH BLACK was PITCH BLACK 2: DARK FURY animated version which follows their journey from the planet and ends up in deep space where they run into trouble then Riddick leaves young jack with the gentleman who escaped with them that leads us to the next movie where the girl jack aka KARA is all grown up and the man is back with his family in Numaka city (I think). *On that note, it’s understandable that the animated version got lost in translation since it’s not very favorable b/c its production quality was so early 2000s dark horse animation.*
Fourth one is just titled RIDDICK.
Oh, I forgot that Kyra was played by Alexa Davalos, she is really great in "The Man in the High Castle"!
Riddick is always fun. 👌
They made Riddick video games too, 'Escape from Butcher's Bay' is pretty awesome.
Yes! Love this movie, a perfect example of escapist, comic book, science fiction.
"I'm Vin Diesel, and I never bathed until I found Necromonger soap. Now I use it to clean the whole of the Under-where...
I haven't smelled beautiful in a long time!"
-Necromonger, truly a soap of soaps!
Actually I liked this movies a lot more than Pitch Black, the universe and story looked very promising. What you hate is what I liked. I wished to see a continuation of this , would be very interesting to see what Riddick would do now that he is in charge of a whole army.
Watch the third film Riddick and you'll see what happened.
Good video reaction folks, and don't worry cowboy I'm sure you are saving your game for your lady, God bless folks
One of my favorite Vin Diesel films after these is The Last Witch Hunter!
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When you go into cryosleep in this Universe, your whole brain goes to sleep except the more primal part of it, the animal part. Because Riddick is more animal than most, he can remain fully conscious unlike most.
The girl woke up but she was still under the effects slightly and thus controlled by her animalistic instincts. Since Riddick is clearly the most alpha male in there, she tried to mate with him as per instructed by her animal instincts...
Oh you watched the special edition there's a lot of movies where they cut out the right stuff for the theatrical cut. This is one of them. You should also watch Dark Fury, It fits in between pitch black and the Chronicles of Riddick
I have always respected how straight up nerdy this movie is. Its not just a sci fi universe, its a deep lore, elemental witch ladies, undead empires, bio technology universe. It just throws you into it, like yeah you liked that low budget horror about a killer, here have this long epic about space politics and a killer. I find myself sort of intrigued by the sci fi lore, but its just so out of nowhere feeling.
Yeah, this was the first movie I saw of the franchise. I thought it was a standalone, with a weird name, and assumed the references to the first movie weren't really references, but exposition. I didn't find out about Pitch Black until years later. And then the third one came out and I wasn't even aware of that one either for quite a while.
Man my step dad and I seen this in the theaters. Awesome movie, we seen so many awesome movies in theaters.
Warmongers and Fishmongers are pretty common usage words to describe what someone does. Necromongers just describes what they deal in. DEATH
There were a bunch of scenes in this I hadn't seen before, some good they left out, some would have clarified more things
Fun Fact: Thandiwe Newton, the actress who places Dame Vaako, is the mother of Nico Parker, the girl who played Sarah in the live action "The Last of Us" tv show.
She's also great as Maeve on WestWorld
15:36 I also recognized him in Amazing Spider-Man 2. As the corrupt dude who framed Harry
This is not the second part of the Riddick story, there is an animated installment called dark fury that ties pitch black and chronicles of Riddick together and shows how Jack/kira evolved.
lol Mr asks Mrs "so what's his rank now? "oh I dont fucking know, I dont care.." 41:18 🤣
There is actually another movie ( Dark Fury) that takes place between pitch black and the Chronicles of Riddick. But due to budget it was a cartoon with the three main characters being voiced by the actors.
I don't think Kyra ran towards the animals, just that THAT one happened to be blocking her path.
The "shine" was implied in the movie was a treatment he had done to his eyes at some point not some mutation.
The next one is my favorite.The story’s simple,but I thought it was fun.Expect to see another personality in it that you both know from a well loved science-fiction property.
You’ve seen pitch black. This summer Vin Diesel stars once again in “Bright White”
This is one of my favorite cult classic franchises. I’m a massive Vin Diesel fan. I just love the way he is such a stoic actor and yet carries such a presence. That’s not an easy skill to master.
But this sequel made me so angry when it killed off Jack. I don’t understand the decision from any level. Storyline wise it’s stupid. Riddick doesn’t make any big moves after she dies. He kills the Lord Marshal because she was wounded trying to save him. But Jack didn’t have to die for the story to continue. She could have been close to death and her fate left to be revealed in the third film. Shock-factor wise, again stupid. The shock comes when Jack is tossed into the spikes, not when she dies. Her actual moment of death isn’t even lingered on. Only his reaction is. She dies, he puts her down and sits down in devastation. Character arc wise , absolutely asinine. Adult Jack is a great character that had so much potential. And her on-screen chemistry with Riddick made this movie. If the studio was worried that an adult Jack would be seen more as a love interest than a younger sister, then they clearly did not understand Riddick in Pitch Black. Or in this film. Nothing about the Riddick-Jack/Kyra scenes ever said sexual tension. He is a rough man who uses violence to prove points, but he never treats Jack/Kyra like he wants to get her into bed. Even the arm between her legs scene is only a move to immobilize her so she can’t fight. All he ever seems to have on his mind is keeping her in line-like father to a daughter-and keeping her protected. Which is why he gets so angry when he finds out she was turned into a sex slave at 12.
Jack/Kyra was a pitch-perfect screen partner for Riddick. The franchise did her wrong. She should have survived this movie. And maybe even the whole franchise. I even would have been more than fine with only sporadic appearances in the franchise after CoR because she’s recovering from her injuries or fighting the Necromonger reprogramming, or Riddick forced her to go into hiding. Something besides death.
Another cult classic franchise did the same thing-kill off the child the protagonist saved/protected in the first movie as soon as she became an adult in the sequel. I can’t say which one because you might watch it one day. But it was just as stupid a story choice there too. It meant nothing to the plot or the franchise to lose her. And it should have meant everything.
Everything you said I agree with.......but it doesn't help that every shot in the film with Kyra is sexualized and she's sweaty the entire time (personally the best thing about her and partly why I love her in this, the actress is hot) so it detracts away from her as a character being a person, that scene with the 3 guys touching on her was not necessary other than to make it sexual and it went on way too long, which broke away from the action(which worked for horny guys like me but for the wrong reasons to show she's a badass)
@@ninjanibba4259 I have to point out that Jack/Kyra was not the only actor sweating. Every single actor during the scenes on Crematoria is made to look sweaty. Their clothes have wet stains, their hair is stringy and damp, their skin shiny, and "sweat" drips off their faces during close up shots. In the arm-bar scene between Riddick and Jack, for instance, Vin Diesel has fake sweat dripping off his eyewear and nose. Regarding the Jack assault scene with the 3 men... I don't think the point of the scene was to show Jack was a badass at all. Rather, it was to prove that despite her skills she was always going to be vulnerable when she went up against male fight partners that were larger and stronger than her. This point is hammered home twice: when she gets overpowered by the 3 men and again when she stabs the Lord Marshall and is thrown into the spikes. What happens both times? She needs Riddick to finish her fight. I think the film did this not because she was female but because she was overconfident and had minimal experience compared to everyone else she fought. Was that particular type of assault necessary? Normally I'd agree with you that it was not. But I think it was for this specific character. It all goes back to her history as a sex slave. She was touched for years without her consent, used, abused, traumatized again and again from a young age. Once she got free, men touching her without consent became her berserk button. I think it makes her feel vulnerable and helpless again, which messes with her focus when fighting--we see that in the 3 men scene. So she lashes out violently, trying to incapacitate her attacker. The only man who can touch her without her consent is clearly Riddick. Because she trusts him completely, even in his violent moments. He is also the only man in the movie who treats a woman like his equal.
@@kailyns8159 I understand it better now that you fleshed it out more clearer with her in the prison, it was always shaky to me thinking about it cuz the movie barely focused on it, so it came off as something else
@@ninjanibba4259 Well, I'm just offering one opinion. But we definitely come from different perspectives. Both perfectly valid.
Riddick is kind of a Conan type character, very few of His friends make it through the tales alive. You meet the Red Sonja to his Conan in the next movie.
3:50 comment, coughing Parlour [fat finger flubb...ParK!our-EMJ] when anyone across movies jumps or actions right, is like,, the best!!-Ernie Moore Jr. 3:57
He actually said “kind of a sleep” so both of you were wrong and he doubled down🤣💀
This one's chock full of great lines and one of those odd movies I think about randomly.