Bro he is a delusional Boston fan they had by far one of the weakest playoff runs in modern history i give them credit for winning the chip but let's be real on how they got there
This current Knicks teams definitely matchup with Boston Celtic idk wtf you talking. The Knicks literally have 2 players on the roster that are 2-way players that can give you 25-30 points on any night and lockdown your best players than you have Josh hart coming off the bench who can give you 15 rebounds for a small guard and then we have one of the best defensive center in the NBA. Yeah the Knicks definitely match up with the Celtic
Today I learnt that Donte DiVincenzo is Steph Curry. Because the amount of people losing their minds over the Knicks losing him is insane..... 'Nova Knicks'....please 🙄. New York is trying to win titles here, not sell slogans.
@@JP-pp2tn It's certainly better than DiVincenzo. And it's not like Randle was doing that much for them either. In a league where there is the chance you run into players like Embiid, Porzingis, Chet, Jokic and Giannis if you want to win, you need size. Especially as they had lost Hartenstein and were already light in their big rotation.
You need to think as an owner... They don't want to pay that much money and become the most expensive team in the league once Reid gets his contract extension. Minnesota haven't had a team this good (last season) since 2003-4. The T'wolves are historically a poor franchise and not really 'winners' or been close to winning several times. They'll be more than happy to trade expensive players and allow their new rookies to develop until 'they' evenutally get paid. The NBA is a young man's league now, so I can't blame the ownership & front office for their decision. Unlike Denver, I see Minnesota's direction to building around their youth being more successful. How would I define success for them? Only time will reveal itself🤷♂️
@@Pacmaneman lmao what does this even mean, the timberwolves beat the nuggets last year, and KAT has a career year. The knicks trade for Mikal, have a good team with great chemistry. Then you swap him and Julius, knicks at best got slightly better. Idk wtf the timberwolves were thinking.
@@TheRightSide-2100! that’s how you know people haven’t been watching wolves basketball. Naz is a direct replacement for Kat. Ideally, Randle works out and Naz holds 6th Man. If Randle don’t workout with his more desirable contract, we can move him to strengthen our bench. The kicker is getting Donte. We lucked out on getting him given what he can do and how good his contract is.
@@tyronetangata-makiri9323 yeah true. I think they'll put Randle on the bench bro. They can't have spacing issues with Randle and Gobert. Naz is a way better fit in the starting line-up. And yes, they might just move Randle if someone is willing to take it on.
@@tylersantana3533 Randle and Towns are really a wash. Both traditionally interior players that play on the perimeter. Average to below average defenders.
Your green gills are showing. Way to biased. Not loving the KAT trade, but to say you take the knicks matchup everytime? Hmm careful what you wish for...
Knicks are now much more injury prone and worse at defense and they also are considerably softer as a whole . If that's not bad enough now you get a considerably LESS productive Bridges Hart and Brunson. Leon destroyed the team .
Hi! Knicks fan here. I take it you’re a Boston fan. Congratulations on another championship! You guys are excellently constructed and are a force on both offense and defense. Also, coach Mazzulla is brilliant. I think you guys actually have another level to reach if Tatum regains his pull up jumper (29.8% on pull ups in the playoffs. For context Giannis shot 29.6% on pull ups last season). The first three games of the finals, after the series was pretty much decided with a 3-0 lead, Tatum’s shooting percentages from 2p and 3p were identical to playoff Julius Randle! (No, seriously, I shit you not). And you still won 🤯So definitely can take a step up! With Kat now enabling NY to utilize 5-out spacing and match KP, while adding arguably the best defensive wing duo in Mikal and OG, do you believe the Knicks have enough to pull off an upset or do you see Boston as a foregone conclusion to represent the East in the finals?
@chrisstfort7 Definitely wouldn't say forgone conclusion because the Knicks have great cohesion and tenacity but I would be concerned about KAT when it comes to going against an Embiid or even a healthy KP. I think he lacks the will on defense to be effective against elite bigs but honestly it depends on the match ups and defensive schemes Thibs puts together. Huge Boston fan my whole life but these Knicks are live. I just hope losing Divencenzo for KAT (who I'm not sure wants to be there given the surprise to him) doesn't become a chemistry issue overall, but I do think Brunson is enough of a leader to mitigate that
@@mdrosario17 That’s great analysis! KP, Embiid and Giannis do worry me but hopefully Thibs can mask Kat’s deficiencies on defense and play to his strengths. I’m also excited to finally see Brunson playing in a 5-out scheme with the lane unclogged for once. I foresee him putting up similar numbers but better efficiency. As for chemistry, I don’t think it will be an issue, the culture has been established already and the focus for everyone is winning. Too many dogs to falter. We shipped Donte and Julius to a contender so they can compete as well. Boston is the clear cut favorite and it’s rare a championship team has a chip on their shoulder. You will be even better. This will be an interesting season.
KAT upgrades 3 of the Knicks 4 needs; Defensive Rebounding, 3 Pt Shooting, & Center Depth. The only weakness it doesn't address is overall depth (losing DiVincenzo) but Thibs prefers a shorter rotation anyway, and Bridges is a huge upgrade from Donte. 🙂
Real Knicks fans aren't saying we're better off without Randle the fake knicks fans are weird I never wanted this trade because KAT is soft inside I just wanted them to give it a chance with Randle
@timsweeney684 That's where the shooting of the Wings comes into play. They both shoot 38% from 3 & are 3 level scorers. As well as Josh Hart averaging 11 rebounds/game last season. Plus Robinson being one of the best offensive rebounders in the league. And that's presuming they make no moves at the Deadline.
This trade gonna fuck them both up. KAT at the 5 against the big guys of the east and the wolves who lose that spacing that KAT gave them + Randle not being locked in defensively.
The Knicks, despite having an excellent off-season, lost Hartenstein. They needed help in their front court, especially at Center. Jericho Sims wasn't the answer, and Julius Randle was the tradable asset. The Knicks get one of the best Big Men in basketball and I Love Dante, but people need to stop acting like he was Kyrie Irving in his prime. This was a good trade.
Every sport is a business first. There's always a Narrative. The Narrative this year is the Knicks. Warriors vs Knicks Finals!! Boston will not repeat!
It makes perfect sense Donte DiVincenzo could be their point guard because their point guard is old and they can put Naz Reid in for cat and Julius Randle will be off the books by the end of the year both sides won
@@donkeyeater6942 I don't know either but like that's the only place he fits in unless he's going to be a combo guard off the bench Maybe they planned for Anthony Edwards to be a point guard and I future I really don’t know but he is good piece
@@juicebox7705 it’s worth freeing up pf for naz Reid to start And it frees up cap space get them a good offensive guard add a first round pick which they are short on because of the Rudy Gobert trade
Yep you are totally Bias, you forgot that they added Mikal Bridges and him along side KAT is going to work well. KAT> Porzingas, Mikal can match up on Tatum, OG will defend Jalen Brown, Josh Hart is also a good defender and I wouldn't sleep on Brunson's defense. It's not going to just come down to Brunson scoring they now have 3 solid options from the starters. When KAT defended the Joker he made it tough on him and they beat the Champs. I wouldn't underestimate Thibodeau with what he'll do with KAT...KAT definitely moves the needle
LOL, Bucks stand no chance with taking out Boston, maybe the 76ers or if Miami can make big moves. I would give the CAVS a better chance than the Bucks to beat the Celtics in a 7 game series. NOPE, the Knicks are setting themselves up to defeat any team, all they need to do now is get more bench help
You are extremely biased. Im not even a Knick fan 😂 Kat is the best shooting big in the league and he is much better playoff performer than Randle was. He is arguably better than KP.
@swimin7357 what does that mean ? Being a championship doesn't make you above other players individually. Especially KP, he barely played. KAT has been much healthier
Knicks can match the Celtics wings defensively with OG and Mikal and even Hart at the point of attack KAT can pull KP from the rim with his shooting and with their ability to put at least 4 good to elite 3 point shooters on the floor the Knicks are the best matchup for the Celtics
Solid move for both teams. I don’t love it and I agree on the moving the needle argument but I definitely see the reasoning behind it for both sides. Knicks needed more scoring and size. Wolves needed to get out from under that contract, while getting a solid return. They have a ton more flexibility after this next season, especially if Randle opts out of his player option.
All the Timberwolves want is to get under the second apron, winning a championship is not part of the plan this year. A lot of recent trades were about getting under the second arpron and we're going to see a lot more moves like this until the CBA changes.
LOL, Bucks stand no chance with taking out Boston, maybe the 76ers or if Miami can make big moves. I would give the CAVS a better chance than the Bucks to beat the Celtics in a 7 game series. NOPE, the Knicks are setting themselves up to defeat any team, all they need to do now is get more bench help
Get real about Miami... They don't have a starting PG. And can't make any major moves unless they move Jimmy or Herro (who I think he needs to go). Bam just signed a new contract extension, so he's untouchable for the whole season. Pat Riley was sitting back chilling for years thinking he could get away with 'Heat Culture' forever. Now he's SEEN what happens when you miss the opportunities to improve a franchise. Miami are done. Pat needs to retire. Respect to him and everything's he's done for the game, but the godfather needs to GO 👋
The biggest irony in all of this is learning that Dante divincenzo wanted a starting position, which he was going to get on the Knicks, but then got traded to Minnesota - where he either will start and Minnesota loses playmaking or he'll come off the bench LMAO
Randle won't be available to start the season... so he could start until he comes back lol. I don't think Minnesota are done though. I think Randle will be moved again🤔
Im one of few fans who didnt want knicks to trade randle, hes the one who strarted this knicks turnaround, and he got so much better as being a teammate.
I believe watching from the sidelines definitely humbled him last playoffs. Regardless, I hope he's hungry and can prove Knicks made a mistake trading him
Randle is garbage but he has an expiring deal and the Timberwolves want to get under the second apron. They'll keep him for the year, let him go and then they can keep all of their young pieces.
See, the issue is, Karl's most important matchup in the east is Joel Embiid. Who has averaged 29 10 and 3 on 51 46 82 splits in their 11 matchups. And if anything, I think Embiid is an even worse matchup for him than Jokic, cause Karl is very foul prone on both sides of the floor in the playoffs, and Embiid specializes in getting to the line. Plus, he's not getting help from the positional depth of Reid and Gobert in New York. I'm not a sixers fan, so I have no dog in the race. I think this helps them keep up with the Celtics, however I feel like there are teams in the east that can and will punish him on defense before they could even get to the Celtics. I also think Indiana with Pascal siakam and Turner could cause problems. Pascal likes to drive to the basket a lot, and KAT doesn't have the best backpedaling nor is he particularly quick on the ball. Also, I feel like the defensive performance Minnesota had against Jokic was more Jokic fatigue and slump causing him to miss threes than the timberwolves executing some handcuff defensive scheme to hold him back. Cause Jokic got to shots he's hit, he just didn't hit them. He shot 29% from 3 in the playoffs last year after shooting 46% the year before and having a career average of 39% in the playoffs. And last year, he averaged the same number of attempts as he does for his career, so it wasn't like he was dealing with different volume. We saw him shoot just as poorly from 3 in the Olympics, and that was without the timberwolves apparently venerated defense. Not trying to be negative or a hater, but I just think people are overreacting to the one playoff series of his career where Karl appeared to play good defense.
Yeah, he'll be getting help from OG and Mitchell Robinson.... It's not like he'll be totally defenseless. Thibs will have defensive strategies to at least make Embiid work a bit. He'll still get his, but a few possessions making him work will pay off in the long run. And then you look at how KAT opens up the floor on the other end compared to Randle and it's an upgrade.
Kay won’t be guarding them though it’ll be Mitch and even if he is it’ll be like an ad thing where he’s only the “primary” defender so the better defender can roam.
@@bronxshenanigans5302 I'm sorry, but given the fact that Robinson has played 59 games and 31 games in the last two seasons, I think it's dubious at best to assume he'll be there in the playoffs. Especially considering he's not even going to be healthy for the start of the season. I think everyone forgot that even when he wasn't healthy, Embiid was averaging like 30 12 and 5 against the Knicks in the playoffs. The margins were very slim in that series, and Karl is already a consistently poor playoff performer. His three point shooting alone drops from basically 40% to 35% in the postseason. And his previous matchups with Embiid have him consistently performing below his career averages and efficiency. As someone from the west coast who has watched a ton of Western conference basketball, it's been well known round here that Karl tends to struggle against strong, big bodied centers when he's the lone big on the floor. Given the only other big on the roster is Mitchell Robinson, even if Robinson is healthy enough for the playoffs their minutes will probably be staggered. And the sixers are absolutely gonna be better than last year with the addition of Paul George, who even with his playoff woes I'd consider to still provide more consistent playoff value than Harden did. Plus, this will be KATs second time playing under Thibs, and we all know how that first stint ended. When he was coached by Thibs in the playoffs, KAT only managed 15 points a game. I just feel like this move has classic Dolan Knicks written all over it. And with KATs huge contract, I'm just saying, don't be surprised if he ends up being another Alan Houston
@@greyklopstock7155 ok no problem we’ll put OG on embiid to lock him up just like we did the last 3 games of the playoff series if worst comes to worst lmaoo no one cares about philly lil bro
Fine trade for new york, kat is good and definitely better than randle. Good big, especially since robinson is out for a while. Sucks to see the nova knicks broken up after 2 months lmao. For the twolves, it feels like randle’s fit is worse than what KAT’s is next to gobert. Divincenzo is great for depth, but i struggle to see the real vision here for the twolves. Seems like a money trade that will make them regress as ant is progressing, unless KAT was actually just a net negative or randle is much better than expected
@@Juan_rivera people weren’t saying they were the nova knicks last year, the point was all of these guys got together after mikal was in brooklyn last year.
The C’s are getting smoked by the knicks. Brunson is a better offensive player than the J’s and the knicks got the 2 best wing defenders too slow the mid offense J’s down. Sporsingus isn’t that much better than KAT and hart and white are on the same level. Mitchell Robinson is better than horford. Knicks in 6
jrue is the best defender on both teams. the Cs gonna go midget huntin on brunson, and CAT and the other ny bigs are gonna play like sissys. knicks loose in 6. 50yrs and countin`...
No they wouldn't. Once ANT took his leap after the 21/22 season. The writing was on the wall for KAT and it was clear he'd be gone within 3 years time.
Timberwolf built the past team to beat Denver and they did just that so i don’t think there’s any problems about team building. Kat really solve Knicks big men and moving aways from JR actually show that they want to win. I personally think they will win
We went from contenders to just another good time with this trade Knicks always take one step forward and ten back I went from being excited to see the season start to not even wanting to stop Knicks are fuxking dumb
Let’s get this straight, the logical Knick fan loved Randle (yes very much had his ups and downs) and jt sucks he’s gone, happy KAT is in equivalent talent
Knicks have og so Randal doesn’t fit and Donte forces hart to come off the bench. Twolves have three allstar caliber bigs. Seems like it makes sense for both teams.
Stop saying Knicks fans think Randle didn’t fit. The major Knicks fans liked Julius here and saw how well he played last season. Especially after we got OG and went 12-2 in January. Most Knicks fans don’t like this trade because we feel we gave up too much. 🤷🏽♂️😊
Brunson vs Jrue vs Maxey Hart vs Derrick White vs Caleb Martin Bridges vs JB vs Oubre OG vs JT vs PG KAT vs KP vs Embiid This is if all teams are fully healthy, and the benches probably go 1. Philly 2. Boston 3. Knicks This is coming from a Celtics fan
I didn't like Randle because of how bad he falls off in the playoffs. What good is being a star in the regular season if you are trash in the playoffs.
@@qwertyuiop123456459fam enough with this narrative. He played in 2 playoffs with us. The first one he was playing with me, you, and BSOLZ and Nate McMillan literally just focused his whole defense around him and none of Julius’ teammates couldn’t hit shots. Then 2 seasons ago he played on an ankle that needed surgery because Bam Adebayo jumped on his back with 5 games left in the season. He hasn’t had a real shot at the playoffs with a real team.
If you do not have a top 8 player in the league, you will not win a championship 98% of the time. I am a NY Knick fan. Brunson and ANT are in the interchange top 11-15 range. ANT or Brunson needs to level up to top 8 to win a chip
Donte DiVincenzo could be their point guard because their point guard is old and they can put Naz Reid in for cat and Julius Randle will be off the books by the end of the year both sides won
On Earth. Mitchell is a great rim protector and can guard bigs who are not very skilled. Put him against a skilled big man and he gets absolutely cooked. He has always had issues with foul trouble too. My fellow Knicks fans don’t like to admit this. But yes, he’s flawed but still an overall excellent defender.
@@1992laaguila permeated? You mean perimeter? Anyways, Mitch wasn’t the only one giving him fits. Precious and OG guarded him well. But regardless, they all defended him decently because Embiid was hurt. You don’t know ball. Be quiet.
@@Okieant bruh been watching ball since starbury. Yeah they defended wel too but in the paint embiid was more frustrated than normal. Don’t act like Mitch doesn’t defend embiid better than 29 other centers
Bro.. your title is literally Knicks changed the NBA, but your conclusion is that KAT doesn’t move the needle.
Bro he is a delusional Boston fan they had by far one of the weakest playoff runs in modern history i give them credit for winning the chip but let's be real on how they got there
Bro.. Clickbait this is the offseason he's trying to get max views
😂😂
content creators want views, they gon clickbait and u fell for it lol dont be mad
@lima9550 yea surefire way for content creators lose credibility real fast.
next Gil Arenas pod finna hit like cracc😂😂
Facts on god
How good is cracc?
This current Knicks teams definitely matchup with Boston Celtic idk wtf you talking. The Knicks literally have 2 players on the roster that are 2-way players that can give you 25-30 points on any night and lockdown your best players than you have Josh hart coming off the bench who can give you 15 rebounds for a small guard and then we have one of the best defensive center in the NBA. Yeah the Knicks definitely match up with the Celtic
Josh Hart is probably starting, at least at the beginning of the season because Mitchell Robinson is hurt
None of your lockdown 2 way players are going for 30 u trippin. Not locking down JT or JB
Knicks hate is real 😂 don’t be surprised if the Knicks come out of the East calling it now ☝🏽
@@Trey.Solomonmikal has proven he can give you 30, og not so much but def still a threat on the offensive side
Today I learnt that Donte DiVincenzo is Steph Curry.
Because the amount of people losing their minds over the Knicks losing him is insane.....
'Nova Knicks'....please 🙄. New York is trying to win titles here, not sell slogans.
not a knicks fan, i get their trying to win but not sure KAT is the answer
@@JP-pp2tn It's certainly better than DiVincenzo. And it's not like Randle was doing that much for them either.
In a league where there is the chance you run into players like Embiid, Porzingis, Chet, Jokic and Giannis if you want to win, you need size. Especially as they had lost Hartenstein and were already light in their big rotation.
Thankyou, Knicks did the best thing possible. Sell high on internet hype buy low on internet memes. KAT is a superstar and Donte is a nobody.
Facts dude at the end of the day the goal is to win no room for sentiments
Not saying he’s the missing piece to win a chip but it’s something yk
Ant is gonna be the next disgruntled player to want out if Wolves don’t improve. Wolves playing with their food ☠️☠️
You need to think as an owner...
They don't want to pay that much money and become the most expensive team in the league once Reid gets his contract extension.
Minnesota haven't had a team this good (last season) since 2003-4. The T'wolves are historically a poor franchise and not really 'winners' or been close to winning several times.
They'll be more than happy to trade expensive players and allow their new rookies to develop until 'they' evenutally get paid.
The NBA is a young man's league now, so I can't blame the ownership & front office for their decision. Unlike Denver, I see Minnesota's direction to building around their youth being more successful. How would I define success for them? Only time will reveal itself🤷♂️
This trade was mad weird for no reason smh
No Randle and 2 big men in the east
Youre just emotional
It was money. Kat expensive and they needa pay naz reid, ant, jaden mcdaniels and if rob dillingham does good then him too.
@@Pacmaneman lmao what does this even mean, the timberwolves beat the nuggets last year, and KAT has a career year. The knicks trade for Mikal, have a good team with great chemistry. Then you swap him and Julius, knicks at best got slightly better. Idk wtf the timberwolves were thinking.
@@Pacmanemanalso can’t imagine ant is happy they traded the person he’s closest to on the team
Bro, if Naz Reid takes on the KAT role completely then the Wolves got Randle and Divincenzo for free
THISS, NOBODY IS TALKING BOUT THIS. 😮💨👏
@@Zeke47 Anyone who has seen the Wolves last year should understand this. It wasn't my first thought. But it really does make sense
@@TheRightSide-2100! that’s how you know people haven’t been watching wolves basketball. Naz is a direct replacement for Kat. Ideally, Randle works out and Naz holds 6th Man. If Randle don’t workout with his more desirable contract, we can move him to strengthen our bench.
The kicker is getting Donte. We lucked out on getting him given what he can do and how good his contract is.
him and randle competing for the same mins him and kat were
@@tyronetangata-makiri9323 yeah true. I think they'll put Randle on the bench bro. They can't have spacing issues with Randle and Gobert. Naz is a way better fit in the starting line-up.
And yes, they might just move Randle if someone is willing to take it on.
im scared this blow up on twolves. we saw wat ANT looked like in the playoffs playing the in PG role
Im not surprised if in 2 consecutive yrs the wolves fail to win, ant will leave to a sunny city...
also feels like ant is “too gangsta” for minnesota ngl 😭😭😭 he outta there
Meh. Celtics in 5
We will see about that
@@tylersantana3533 Randle and Towns are really a wash. Both traditionally interior players that play on the perimeter. Average to below average defenders.
Your green gills are showing. Way to biased. Not loving the KAT trade, but to say you take the knicks matchup everytime? Hmm careful what you wish for...
Damn people quick with these talks about it hope to see KAT do good in the apple
He will! that pick and pop with Brunson is going to be unstoppable. Mikal Bridges is going to benefit so much of this.
This feels like such a last minute trade. 😂 Not really a fan of this, I know the Knicks needs another big but come on.
This move was for Indy too..Indy killeduswith their stretch bigs..
They didn’t kill shit. We got beat by injuries.
No it wasn’t. Indy only won because the Knicks was heavily injured.
Pacers werent healthy either 😂
@@pokeninja97 who said anything about being healthy
Yall worried about the pacers 😅
Knicks are now much more injury prone and worse at defense and they also are considerably softer as a whole . If that's not bad enough now you get a considerably LESS productive Bridges Hart and Brunson. Leon destroyed the team .
Both teams just traded problems. Now they have each others' problems, that's it.
If anything this hurts the celtics by allowing the nuggets an easier road to the finals without the double big matchup in minnesota
Hi! Knicks fan here. I take it you’re a Boston fan. Congratulations on another championship! You guys are excellently constructed and are a force on both offense and defense. Also, coach Mazzulla is brilliant.
I think you guys actually have another level to reach if Tatum regains his pull up jumper (29.8% on pull ups in the playoffs. For context Giannis shot 29.6% on pull ups last season). The first three games of the finals, after the series was pretty much decided with a 3-0 lead, Tatum’s shooting percentages from 2p and 3p were identical to playoff Julius Randle! (No, seriously, I shit you not). And you still won 🤯So definitely can take a step up!
With Kat now enabling NY to utilize 5-out spacing and match KP, while adding arguably the best defensive wing duo in Mikal and OG, do you believe the Knicks have enough to pull off an upset or do you see Boston as a foregone conclusion to represent the East in the finals?
@chrisstfort7 Definitely wouldn't say forgone conclusion because the Knicks have great cohesion and tenacity but I would be concerned about KAT when it comes to going against an Embiid or even a healthy KP. I think he lacks the will on defense to be effective against elite bigs but honestly it depends on the match ups and defensive schemes Thibs puts together. Huge Boston fan my whole life but these Knicks are live. I just hope losing Divencenzo for KAT (who I'm not sure wants to be there given the surprise to him) doesn't become a chemistry issue overall, but I do think Brunson is enough of a leader to mitigate that
Lmao so much cope 😂😂😂
Celtics winning again. They solid
@@mdrosario17 That’s great analysis! KP, Embiid and Giannis do worry me but hopefully Thibs can mask Kat’s deficiencies on defense and play to his strengths. I’m also excited to finally see Brunson playing in a 5-out scheme with the lane unclogged for once. I foresee him putting up similar numbers but better efficiency. As for chemistry, I don’t think it will be an issue, the culture has been established already and the focus for everyone is winning. Too many dogs to falter. We shipped Donte and Julius to a contender so they can compete as well.
Boston is the clear cut favorite and it’s rare a championship team has a chip on their shoulder. You will be even better. This will be an interesting season.
KAT upgrades 3 of the Knicks 4 needs; Defensive Rebounding, 3 Pt Shooting, & Center Depth. The only weakness it doesn't address is overall depth (losing DiVincenzo) but Thibs prefers a shorter rotation anyway, and Bridges is a huge upgrade from Donte. 🙂
There interior defence well Robinson is out will be an issue
Real Knicks fans aren't saying we're better off without Randle the fake knicks fans are weird I never wanted this trade because KAT is soft inside I just wanted them to give it a chance with Randle
The key to beating Boston isn't a dominant center, it's defensive wings to neutralize The J's & shooting + defense. My NYK are primed to beat Boston
You can’t have any holes on defense against Boston and them Knicks have 2. Boston will hunt Kat and Brunson the whole time
@timsweeney684 That's where the shooting of the Wings comes into play. They both shoot 38% from 3 & are 3 level scorers. As well as Josh Hart averaging 11 rebounds/game last season. Plus Robinson being one of the best offensive rebounders in the league. And that's presuming they make no moves at the Deadline.
I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves. The trade hasn’t even been finalized
That first Knicks/Celtics game of the season is gonna be 🔥🔥🔥. I’m gonna need tickets for that.
unless you plan on dropping a grand on nosebleeds for opening day you are not getting tickets lol
KAT rushed back from a torn meniscus in those playoffs
This trade gonna fuck them both up. KAT at the 5 against the big guys of the east and the wolves who lose that spacing that KAT gave them + Randle not being locked in defensively.
Big guys out east??? Who? injury prone zingis, Embiid? Mid ass Bam? Ain’t no good bigs out east
@@restainejkat got outplayed by lively and gafford in the playoffs
The Knicks, despite having an excellent off-season, lost Hartenstein. They needed help in their front court, especially at Center. Jericho Sims wasn't the answer, and Julius Randle was the tradable asset. The Knicks get one of the best Big Men in basketball and I Love Dante, but people need to stop acting like he was Kyrie Irving in his prime. This was a good trade.
Every sport is a business first. There's always a Narrative. The Narrative this year is the Knicks. Warriors vs Knicks Finals!! Boston will not repeat!
Warriors is wild
Personally, I'm trying to see Kings vs Pacers.
F the ratings.
I just wanna see a FUN Finals again.
I haven't watched a fun one since 2019🤢
Did KAT dirty, don’t make no sense.
It makes perfect sense
Donte DiVincenzo could be their point guard because their point guard is old and they can put Naz Reid in for cat and Julius Randle will be off the books by the end of the year both sides won
@@TheBlackFishdontai isn’t a pg he sg he is a good scorer idk how well he will be play the pg
@@donkeyeater6942 I don't know either but like that's the only place he fits in unless he's going to be a combo guard off the bench Maybe they planned for Anthony Edwards to be a point guard and I future I really don’t know but he is good piece
@@TheBlackFish So ur telling me trading KAT was worth having Donte?
@@juicebox7705 it’s worth freeing up pf for naz Reid to start And it frees up cap space get them a good offensive guard add a first round pick which they are short on because of the Rudy Gobert trade
Yep you are totally Bias, you forgot that they added Mikal Bridges and him along side KAT is going to work well. KAT> Porzingas, Mikal can match up on Tatum, OG will defend Jalen Brown, Josh Hart is also a good defender and I wouldn't sleep on Brunson's defense. It's not going to just come down to Brunson scoring they now have 3 solid options from the starters. When KAT defended the Joker he made it tough on him and they beat the Champs. I wouldn't underestimate Thibodeau with what he'll do with KAT...KAT definitely moves the needle
LOL, Bucks stand no chance with taking out Boston, maybe the 76ers or if Miami can make big moves. I would give the CAVS a better chance than the Bucks to beat the Celtics in a 7 game series. NOPE, the Knicks are setting themselves up to defeat any team, all they need to do now is get more bench help
You are extremely biased. Im not even a Knick fan 😂 Kat is the best shooting big in the league and he is much better playoff performer than Randle was. He is arguably better than KP.
KP is a champion lol chill tf out
@swimin7357 what does that mean ? Being a championship doesn't make you above other players individually. Especially KP, he barely played. KAT has been much healthier
So if he's "better than KP", you're basically saying Knicks are NBA Finalists? 🤔
@ColdHoops they should be title favorites. Just like the Celtics, Mavs, Nuggets... I'm not even a Knicks fan, I just see things how they are.
Knicks can match the Celtics wings defensively with OG and Mikal and even Hart at the point of attack KAT can pull KP from the rim with his shooting and with their ability to put at least 4 good to elite 3 point shooters on the floor the Knicks are the best matchup for the Celtics
Solid move for both teams. I don’t love it and I agree on the moving the needle argument but I definitely see the reasoning behind it for both sides. Knicks needed more scoring and size. Wolves needed to get out from under that contract, while getting a solid return. They have a ton more flexibility after this next season, especially if Randle opts out of his player option.
All the Timberwolves want is to get under the second apron, winning a championship is not part of the plan this year. A lot of recent trades were about getting under the second arpron and we're going to see a lot more moves like this until the CBA changes.
Thibs knows KAT. KAT played for Thibs. Thibs is one of the best coaches in the NBA. Knicks for the win!
Any Knicks season ticket holders are about to fiend for next season's tickets like crack in the 80's😂
Just made the Celtics path easier
dont sleep on Naz reid this season either though, I think if he takes a big enough leap the wolves will be solid
the wolves are obviously moving randle again spacing is not ideal
I’m not even a New York fan but dey coookin the Celtics
IMO Naz Reid should be a starter next season in MN over Randle. He's a decent scorer and better defender than Randle.
Solz in his “creators create” bag. W vid
Once they add two more teams it will be harder to win so they have 4 years max
LOL, Bucks stand no chance with taking out Boston, maybe the 76ers or if Miami can make big moves. I would give the CAVS a better chance than the Bucks to beat the Celtics in a 7 game series. NOPE, the Knicks are setting themselves up to defeat any team, all they need to do now is get more bench help
Get real about Miami...
They don't have a starting PG.
And can't make any major moves unless they move Jimmy or Herro (who I think he needs to go). Bam just signed a new contract extension, so he's untouchable for the whole season.
Pat Riley was sitting back chilling for years thinking he could get away with 'Heat Culture' forever. Now he's SEEN what happens when you miss the opportunities to improve a franchise.
Miami are done.
Pat needs to retire.
Respect to him and everything's he's done for the game, but the godfather needs to GO 👋
Yooo I hope Katt can give up the same if not better scoring out out than Randle
This mfer look funny as shit dawg ngl
The biggest irony in all of this is learning that Dante divincenzo wanted a starting position, which he was going to get on the Knicks, but then got traded to Minnesota - where he either will start and Minnesota loses playmaking or he'll come off the bench LMAO
Randle won't be available to start the season... so he could start until he comes back lol.
I don't think Minnesota are done though. I think Randle will be moved again🤔
Im one of few fans who didnt want knicks to trade randle, hes the one who strarted this knicks turnaround, and he got so much better as being a teammate.
I believe watching from the sidelines definitely humbled him last playoffs.
Regardless, I hope he's hungry and can prove Knicks made a mistake trading him
The discussion and the title makes zero sense.
How is Julius next to Mitchell Robinson any different from Julius Randle next to Gobert?
Randle is garbage but he has an expiring deal and the Timberwolves want to get under the second apron. They'll keep him for the year, let him go and then they can keep all of their young pieces.
the one big difference is that gobert does not spend half the season on the bench injured
You don't watch Knicks like that and it shows.
Mitch and Randle rarely shared extensive time together as a backcourt on the court
Does this mean that the knicks have a superteam?
See, the issue is, Karl's most important matchup in the east is Joel Embiid. Who has averaged 29 10 and 3 on 51 46 82 splits in their 11 matchups. And if anything, I think Embiid is an even worse matchup for him than Jokic, cause Karl is very foul prone on both sides of the floor in the playoffs, and Embiid specializes in getting to the line. Plus, he's not getting help from the positional depth of Reid and Gobert in New York. I'm not a sixers fan, so I have no dog in the race. I think this helps them keep up with the Celtics, however I feel like there are teams in the east that can and will punish him on defense before they could even get to the Celtics. I also think Indiana with Pascal siakam and Turner could cause problems. Pascal likes to drive to the basket a lot, and KAT doesn't have the best backpedaling nor is he particularly quick on the ball.
Also, I feel like the defensive performance Minnesota had against Jokic was more Jokic fatigue and slump causing him to miss threes than the timberwolves executing some handcuff defensive scheme to hold him back. Cause Jokic got to shots he's hit, he just didn't hit them. He shot 29% from 3 in the playoffs last year after shooting 46% the year before and having a career average of 39% in the playoffs. And last year, he averaged the same number of attempts as he does for his career, so it wasn't like he was dealing with different volume. We saw him shoot just as poorly from 3 in the Olympics, and that was without the timberwolves apparently venerated defense. Not trying to be negative or a hater, but I just think people are overreacting to the one playoff series of his career where Karl appeared to play good defense.
Yeah, he'll be getting help from OG and Mitchell Robinson....
It's not like he'll be totally defenseless. Thibs will have defensive strategies to at least make Embiid work a bit. He'll still get his, but a few possessions making him work will pay off in the long run.
And then you look at how KAT opens up the floor on the other end compared to Randle and it's an upgrade.
Kay won’t be guarding them though it’ll be Mitch and even if he is it’ll be like an ad thing where he’s only the “primary” defender so the better defender can roam.
That’s no problem When we play 76ers we can run kat at the 4 and let Mitch guard him
@@bronxshenanigans5302 I'm sorry, but given the fact that Robinson has played 59 games and 31 games in the last two seasons, I think it's dubious at best to assume he'll be there in the playoffs. Especially considering he's not even going to be healthy for the start of the season. I think everyone forgot that even when he wasn't healthy, Embiid was averaging like 30 12 and 5 against the Knicks in the playoffs. The margins were very slim in that series, and Karl is already a consistently poor playoff performer. His three point shooting alone drops from basically 40% to 35% in the postseason. And his previous matchups with Embiid have him consistently performing below his career averages and efficiency.
As someone from the west coast who has watched a ton of Western conference basketball, it's been well known round here that Karl tends to struggle against strong, big bodied centers when he's the lone big on the floor. Given the only other big on the roster is Mitchell Robinson, even if Robinson is healthy enough for the playoffs their minutes will probably be staggered. And the sixers are absolutely gonna be better than last year with the addition of Paul George, who even with his playoff woes I'd consider to still provide more consistent playoff value than Harden did. Plus, this will be KATs second time playing under Thibs, and we all know how that first stint ended. When he was coached by Thibs in the playoffs, KAT only managed 15 points a game. I just feel like this move has classic Dolan Knicks written all over it. And with KATs huge contract, I'm just saying, don't be surprised if he ends up being another Alan Houston
@@greyklopstock7155 ok no problem we’ll put OG on embiid to lock him up just like we did the last 3 games of the playoff series if worst comes to worst lmaoo no one cares about philly lil bro
I’m calling it rn the Knicks beating Boston if they play them in the playoffs
In any round?
I think the knicks now match up better with every team BUT the celtics
Marc Williams...🤨
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Fine trade for new york, kat is good and definitely better than randle. Good big, especially since robinson is out for a while. Sucks to see the nova knicks broken up after 2 months lmao.
For the twolves, it feels like randle’s fit is worse than what KAT’s is next to gobert. Divincenzo is great for depth, but i struggle to see the real vision here for the twolves. Seems like a money trade that will make them regress as ant is progressing, unless KAT was actually just a net negative or randle is much better than expected
Everyone says "broken up" they lost ONE of the 4, they're back down to 3. Nothing is broken up
@@Juan_rivera people weren’t saying they were the nova knicks last year, the point was all of these guys got together after mikal was in brooklyn last year.
@kennethxu1789 in yes they were, wtf are you watching?
Stand up New York
Yoooooo let’s goo Knicks frl😅❤❤
Knicks got worst 😂😂😂
Man am I the only one who thinks Randle is better than KAT?
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Thanks!
The C’s are getting smoked by the knicks. Brunson is a better offensive player than the J’s and the knicks got the 2 best wing defenders too slow the mid offense J’s down. Sporsingus isn’t that much better than KAT and hart and white are on the same level. Mitchell Robinson is better than horford. Knicks in 6
Brunson is not a better offensive player than Tatum lol maybe Brown.
jrue is the best defender on both teams. the Cs gonna go midget huntin on brunson, and CAT and the other ny bigs are gonna play like sissys. knicks loose in 6. 50yrs and countin`...
The timberwolves could’ve kept kat and ant if they didn’t trade for gobert 😂😂
Rudy is the reason they are a top 3 defense idiot
No they wouldn't.
Once ANT took his leap after the 21/22 season.
The writing was on the wall for KAT and it was clear he'd be gone within 3 years time.
Celtics in 5
Domo predicted this years finals last season
And it was a disgraceful one 🤮
Bias
Timberwolf built the past team to beat Denver and they did just that so i don’t think there’s any problems about team building. Kat really solve Knicks big men and moving aways from JR actually show that they want to win. I personally think they will win
KAT is not that dude. The knicks messed up the chemistry on the team by getting rid of Donte.
They had to sacrifice SOMEBODY to get an elite big.
I would've liked them to get AD, but Lakers wouldn't want to piss off Bron 🤷♂️
@@ColdHoops I beg to differ I don’t think he’s elite. Way too soft.
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We went from contenders to just another good time with this trade Knicks always take one step forward and ten back I went from being excited to see the season start to not even wanting to stop Knicks are fuxking dumb
Let’s get this straight, the logical Knick fan loved Randle (yes very much had his ups and downs) and jt sucks he’s gone, happy KAT is in equivalent talent
Their still beating a healthy Boston team or buck team
Lmao no they’re not. 😂😂😂
What are you smoking. Celtics 🏆🏆
Honestly its not that bad for either team...Wolves get depth and Knicks get a good AS big
Knicks have og so Randal doesn’t fit and Donte forces hart to come off the bench. Twolves have three allstar caliber bigs. Seems like it makes sense for both teams.
Bias asf
Stop saying Knicks fans think Randle didn’t fit. The major Knicks fans liked Julius here and saw how well he played last season. Especially after we got OG and went 12-2 in January. Most Knicks fans don’t like this trade because we feel we gave up too much. 🤷🏽♂️😊
Brunson vs Jrue vs Maxey
Hart vs Derrick White vs Caleb Martin
Bridges vs JB vs Oubre
OG vs JT vs PG
KAT vs KP vs Embiid
This is if all teams are fully healthy, and the benches probably go 1. Philly 2. Boston 3. Knicks
This is coming from a Celtics fan
I didn't like Randle because of how bad he falls off in the playoffs. What good is being a star in the regular season if you are trash in the playoffs.
Not just that we gave up too much, we went and traded a dog for a bitch.
@@qwertyuiop123456459fam enough with this narrative. He played in 2 playoffs with us. The first one he was playing with me, you, and BSOLZ and Nate McMillan literally just focused his whole defense around him and none of Julius’ teammates couldn’t hit shots. Then 2 seasons ago he played on an ankle that needed surgery because Bam Adebayo jumped on his back with 5 games left in the season. He hasn’t had a real shot at the playoffs with a real team.
If you do not have a top 8 player in the league, you will not win a championship 98% of the time. I am a NY Knick fan. Brunson and ANT are in the interchange top 11-15 range. ANT or Brunson needs to level up to top 8 to win a chip
This Knick fan doesnt believe we were better without Jules.. i dont know how i feel about this...but i trust Leon Rose
I’m very disappointed. This will put the Knicks in a bad situation that they won’t be able to get out off
Biased lol
Also did you call Mitchell Robinson an extremely flawed defensive player???? All he is is a defensive player
Just u wait solz that season opener finna show u BING BONG
My nigga bSolz but his Foot in this video.W editing W passion 😢
Trade makes no sense Jalen shoulda stayed in NY more money and legacy points
6ers are cooked if they weren’t already East is stacked at the top
Celtics still going back to back
No team is going back to back in the decade (2021-2030)
Man has to do a blockbuster diet
LOL flag on the play bro. Mad unnecessary
Attacking a man’s weight because you disagree with his take is wild bro. Lmao
They just gave EMBIID a New toy to play with
damn your lights bright af looks like day time
They should be the favorites in the east
They got the best player in the east and and the most skilled big in the east
😂😂😂😂
They didn't get Embiid my guy 😂
@@Ash38122he said the best player not the dirtiest
@@goattygoat9489 I was referring to the skilled big in the east thing
@@Ash38122If by skill you mean whistle.
This was incredibly disappointing to hear
Wolves will just get slapped by the mavs again and definitely got worse. The owner just didn’t want to pay the team
I'm looking at OKC's Chet & J Will 'pending' contracts👀
I think can it great move he home and in New york
I actually like this trade for the TWolves. Are they contenders? F*** No! But the basketball with randle and ant will be much more entertaining 😂
They're looking more like the 'JailWolves' 😤
Bro made this after the Aux Battle LMAO
They’re NOT beating the Celtics in a 7 games series! 🥷☘️
Nah man no towns 😭😭😭
The wolves messed up
This trade is horrible for both teams
And the lakers still ain’t made a move
Donte DiVincenzo could be their point guard because their point guard is old and they can put Naz Reid in for cat and Julius Randle will be off the books by the end of the year both sides won
Exactly but they got pj dozier for point guard
@@amazonfinds9157 I just looked up his stats I’m not impressed but maybe they’ll use Dante as a off the bench guy bad idea but 🤷♂️
Knick fan here. Devo hurts the most out of this deal but if you need a PG then he ain’t it. Shooter but not good enough vision or handle.
On what planet is Mitchell Robinson a flawed defensive player?
On Earth. Mitchell is a great rim protector and can guard bigs who are not very skilled. Put him against a skilled big man and he gets absolutely cooked. He has always had issues with foul trouble too. My fellow Knicks fans don’t like to admit this. But yes, he’s flawed but still an overall excellent defender.
@@Okieantbro he’s a bit flawed as a permeated defender but even with that he was giving embiid more fits than anyone in the playoffs
@@1992laaguila permeated? You mean perimeter? Anyways, Mitch wasn’t the only one giving him fits. Precious and OG guarded him well. But regardless, they all defended him decently because Embiid was hurt. You don’t know ball. Be quiet.
@@Okieant yeah my bad perimeter
@@Okieant bruh been watching ball since starbury. Yeah they defended wel too but in the paint embiid was more frustrated than normal. Don’t act like Mitch doesn’t defend embiid better than 29 other centers
Your dog is cool man 😂
Gobert for zach lavine if they are struggling
That is a braindead take.
Both sides won change my mind