So, How do I Ship This 1,018 # Wagon Wheel? | An A-Frame House | Engels Coach Shop
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- Crating a thousand pound wagon wheel for truck shipping is definitely a challenging venture. For reasons I explain, I decided to ship this wheel vertical instead of horizontal. So I need to create a crate that will maintain its vertical integrity, and protect it while being transferred by multiple forklift drivers as it travels across the country from Montana to Virginia. This is designing and building as I go, with no real beginning plans, but knowing it has to survive rough handling.
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This guy is the Bob Ross of wagon wheels. Soooo satisfying!
Bob Ross talks about covering up his mistakes.
Dave doesn't ship "mistakes."
steve
@@steveskouson9620 True, but Ross worked in a medium where mistakes were easily and cheaply fixed.
Damn, I upvoted my own commennt by accident.
@@billh230 You should be able to click it again to turn it off.
@@GraeMatterz I'll give that a try. I really do hate when I do that. It makes me look petty and insecure.
Imaging being the customer and watching this chandelier start to finish…thrilling. 🤗
I can not conceive of you ever having a dissatisfied customer! Even watching you crate a wheel gives me the comfy feeling of some crafts folk still keeping the spirit going!
Hopefully we get to see those beauties installed... God bless...
Agreed
Absolutely
Please!
That was a lesson in how to transport a bloody big wheel . Great job 👍🇬🇧
自分の作った作品への愛情とこだわりが梱包とホーク操縦にも 見て取れるます。最後の仕事。これは自分の役割りと自然に、静かに主張されている。誰も援軍居ないも素晴らしい！！
Even the packaging is a work of art!
Fantastic! ingenuity at its best. Nothing like common sense and skill and ability together.
There are a lot of 'unboxing' videos on TH-cam. You just made the best 'boxing' video! 👍
Just the "crate" is a work of art and engineering!
Another prime example of master craftsmanship!
Thanks for sharing your skills and expertise Dave!
I laughed when I saw the the old pallet. I thought you were having a lend of us, but no the final product was a masterpiece . Very impressed , as always. Thanks for sharing Dave.
I .... Respect the Professionalism... and The Dedication towards the Accuracy and Care of Freight and Shipment .. 👌
All I can say is THANK GOD YOU DIDN'T GO UPS FREIGHT. Old Dominion is very good. I used to build special skids for odd parts. It was fun watching someone else to the work and that was a great design.
Very creative way to crate this wheel. Pardon the pun but it surely was a "Screwy Pallet." The people will appreciate all the hardware they are receiving when it arrives. Really gave them the "Screws" on this one.
As a woodworker, former truck driver, and sometime carpenter, I think you did a pretty damn good job crating that up. I've had poorly fixed loads shift on me more times than I care to think about, but this was a job well done.
Nice touch using Old Dominion to ship to Virginia! :)
What a fantastic job a true craftsman a privilege to watch. UK.
I know all about a carpentry project "evolving" as you go. Even the crate is craftsmanship
Have you heard the words; MISSION CREEP?? :-)
Its a pleasure to see how you build the wheels but its also very nice to see how you build the Cover for the big wheel
The same precise work and love for the deatails
Thats how a Stellmacher :-) do his work
Greetings from Germany
Good bless you
Yours Frank
You put more craftsmanship into the even the crate than a lot of builders do into houses! Pics please of the wheel installed.
Put it on a powered axel in a big crate. Motorized the axel so it turns about 20 RPM, then watch the semi try to go around corners. :-)
Okay, that's evil.
Funny, but evil! ;)
Need a lot more than 20 RPM to make a difference. 2,000 might get interesting. 😁
That's going to be one heck of a chandelier, and I'm sure it will look amazing, but I'm darned if I'd feel safe sitting or standing under it, no matter how they fix it up,..
The ceiling joist will definitely need to be re-enforced to handle the load of that wheel. Even if it is, I'd still hate to be standing underneath it if Virginia has another one of those freak earthquakes!
Just a wild guess my bet they will be installed in a timber frame structure so joist strength probably won’t be an issue but again I am just making a guess
gullreefclub uh... ceilings in timber framed structures hang from the floor joists. That is precisely where there’s the issue. A concrete slab ceiling is a lot stronger.
I would like to see the video of them installing this beautiful beast.
That wheel is a true work of art as well as function. Congratulations.
This project will truly shine a little light on wheel making :)
I like how you use screws on the easily accessible struts and then use a nail gun of the spacers between the spindles where it'll be difficult to get a saw in without risking damaging the wheel itself, I bet that was a nightmare to unpack.
Oh well, if they needed to take their time unpacking it I suppose it will make them appreciate it more 😂
Wonderful job Dave. If only we could see it in its final resting place.
After watching these videos for the last month, I realize that you have expanded your portfolio, with horseless carriages and home decor.
Boy, now that is one helluva crating job! I love it!
It was a great crating job, the only thing I might have added was, wrapping it in industrial grade plastic cling wrap.
Great job!
Would love to see a pic of it hanging in it's final glory.
Thanks!
5 days to ship, 1 day to unpack. Was waiting for the trailer to up end when the wheel was loaded!Very informative video as always.
That is a beautiful wheel!
After the delivery I fully expect to see the container for the wheel begin a new life as a recycled project. Too bad we couldn't follow it and see what happens. Thank you for another great video.
Would have been awesome to see the borax wagon and mule team waiting outside to haul the wheel away
I’m not sure why I liked watching you package this behemoth up for shipping, but I did....
You are the bizz my friend . I'd love to see now.
My Good Man, easy, fit it to a wagon and go .... ;) Beautiful wheel and craftsmanship.
Beautiful work, and fun to see the kind of awkwardness that comes from trying to ship something so ridiculously sized. Held my breath at a few points because I was worried it'd tip over, or you'd accidentally catch it with a saw. Making wagon wheels is absolutely harder than I imagined it would be!
Looks like a good packing job, now for it to travel safely. 👍👍 Thanks for sharing with us.
and another bit of tremendous craftsmanship is released into the world!!
it always strikes me as a little surreal when you get the forklift out. After watching all the 19th century techniques and even tools you use, then.......forklift!! (not faulting you in anyway, some of your things are undeniably huge!!)
I have always wondered why you don't have one of those beam-rail cranes that runs the length of your shop though....seems like it would very handy fairly frequently.....
there is my best liked green wagon. thanks for a great show.hope to see you next wk.
Yeah! We would really appreciate an outboxing video! ;-) Greeting and big thanks from Germany!
Sir, just last week visited the Borax mine in Boron Ca. They have a wagon train set up with fiberglass mules. On display. Theirs has a different under carriage set up than the ones you made ? Also the water wagon has a tow bumper horn to pull another wagon behind it. Also did not know just how much play (back and forth) between wagons, now know why called horn and bumper. I asked if they know about you building wagons? They said yes and were proud you did the work. And to keep the train alive. The reason I went was to see if they still had photos of me, seeding the slopes around the visitor center in 1998. When asked about them, the man said yes, they did and they still talk about me. See I would run side ways on the slopes driving an old, two wheel drive John Dear tractor and a quad runner to seed the slopes. The slopes were very steep and I was on edge of tipping over. The guys in the mine had a running bet on when I was going to kill myself. The man I talked to said the money was a very large amount. I told them that he could now tell them I was still alive and quite well. One day, while working, stopped by a track hoe placing rip wrap rocks along the road up to the center and asked the man operating it if He would trade places, he said hell no!!! I was the craziest person he ever seen. That I cost him money, as I had not killed myself yet. That's when I first learned about the betting. Too funny.
I'm betting that you will live a long and happy life. Take care, Kyle Greer.
@@clark57225 Thank You. 60 years young now.
That is so elegant!
I would have bodged up something massive that would have added half again to the shipping-weight.
Craftsmanship and a lifetime of accumulated knowledge and experience always wins in the end!
I have become convinced that you must have “sold your soul to the devil” in exchange for your skills ala Robert Johnson (the archetypal blues singer). I realize your skill comes from years of shunned knuckles as well as blisters. It is a joy to me to watch you make difficult tasks seem easy. Thank you for sharing.
May not have sold his soul but I'm sure there have been a lot of blood sacrifices to get that level of skill.
Sometimes my humor isn’t as obvious as it should be. I meant no disrespect but rather ultimate respect for a man with extraordinary skills.
@@carlT1986 Whatever Dave sold or sacrificed, he got the better end of the deal.
there is nothing you could do that would bore me. i enjoy watching things being built/created, particularly by someone that knows what he is doing. Have a Happy Thanksgiving! Thank you!
I sure would like to see these when they are installed as chandeliers...awesome video!
I'm always impressed with your work. I'd also like to see them un-crate it in VA, I'll bet they will wish you used screws on those few stabilizers between spokes, I sure wouldn't want to get a hammer or wrecking bar anywhere near that beautiful wheel to get them out!
That's what I was thinking! I was cringing the whole time thinking 'but how would I get them out?'
Exactly. They will need a sawzall to cut those out from between the spokes and they will be mighty upset about the damage.
Even the crate is a work of art! Thanks for sharing!
Even the crating is a work of art 😊👍
thankyou for these videos, i bad anxiety and depression and your videos are very relaxing and help me to relax.. its very beautiful work you do!
That, sir, is a job well done. Looks like you covered all possible directions of movement. Thanks for allowing us to look over your shoulder yet again.
After all that protective craftsmanship it burnt to a cinder in a truck fire!!!
Hey Dave, Your pallet is a work of art, It almost took you as long to make as the wheel did, lol, peace and love Joe from N/J
For a project like this I would have thought the customer would have sent somebody to pick it up. I mean, sure it's a long ride but people do it every day. Anyways, they wanted a wagon wheel and they are getting the real McCoy! Awesome job.
It is a well made, beautiful wheel. Mighty heavy too..!!
When I think back to all the ways I've seen large irregular objects shipped,
I'd say your way is better than most.
Your pallet was built stronger than many new homes today.......That is both a compliment......and sad of the poor quality of buildings now
And away she goes..... We are here in Virginia waiting delivery. Another Masterpiece.
Thanks, Dave. I, and undoubtedly others, eagerly await news of it's arrival in Virginia. Keep on keepin' on.
I've been waiting all week to see this. And I wasn't disappointed (as usual).
Good work putting that cordless drill too the test.... thought i seen smoke rising up at one point..lol..lol. Amen for decking screws. Once again Mr Engels you have done a magnificent job. Thought you did a wonderful job crateing up such a odd size item. I've hauled over sized items for years in the trucking industry. Would had no problem hauling the wheel too it's destination. Keep up the good work sir. God bless 👍😇
Great Craftsman, keep up the trade.
I think you did a fantastic job om building and the crating of this beautiful wheel! Thank you!
That is some box you need there! Well done!!
Great job. An oft unseen part of the project’s.
Thanks for showing it Dave.
I would love to see the wear house manager reaction when they brought that in. Thanks for sharing!
I've been a warehouse manager for 30 years. Nothing surprises me any more. Two of the craziest things was a poor dog in a truck trailer. He became the warehouse mascot for a while until we found a good home for him. We named him Hobo. Another memorable event was someone left their fork truck in a trailer. You'd think the truck driver would notice that when he was closing the doors. I called the shipper and asked if he was missing a fork lift. He said he didn't think so but had someone go quickly check and yup, they were missing a fork truck. Nobody even noticed.
@@tpniefer We've shipped a Raccoon ( We were in Texas then . . . it was not amused at the end of its trip to Canada, and the customer thought we somehow did it intentionally) and at my current location, we also had a lift take a ride . . . with the operator still sitting on it! Trucker never closed the rear door and drove across town to the distribution center, where he got an earful. Company policy was then made to install those dock locks that grab the rear bumper.
@@jpkalishek4586 I bet we could have a great time sharing crazy stories. Glad to know the poor guy on the lift truck wasn't hurt.
@@tpniefer oh yeah, stuff sent to the wrong place . . like Saudi instead of Malaysia, Container ships catching fire etc.
Another lift was given a short ride years before (Driver stopped at the guard house to sign out and close up before hitting the road so only a few hundred yards trip)
@@tpniefer Lost a fork miself. had a driver I was unloading move my forks to fit the pallet I was picking up. Just so happened that lined up with the fork removal notch. set the pallet down, ran inside to drop off the invoice, came out an notice the missing fork. Left it in the pallet I just set down so quickly put it back on.
The tire on this beast of a wheel is downright frightening. My dad and father-in-law used to play "Click and Wheel" when they were children growing up in the early 1900s. The wheel was an old, worn out tire from a wagon. I wonder what they'd say today if they were still alive and saw the wheel on this thousand pounder? LOL
I guess the best way to move such wheels is to build a wagon in between, and put some mules in front? We wouldn't mind...
In what you would expect the mule train to arrive in Virginia?
Great job . Thank you for all your good ideas. Blessings to all your family.
Dave, have you ever seen a rendering of what the James Reed Palace Wagon looked like? This was a super sized wagon that was in the Donner party. I expect that it was based on a Borax or freight wagon of that period. According to legend, it had two decks. Because of it's weight it was left in the Great Salt Desert. Supposedly, a man ran across it in the 50's buried out there. It had these gigantic wheels that were 8 inches wide.
I thought near the end of the video you were going to load a giant shrink wrap machine at the end of the shop! Thanks again Dave, ingeniously done until the end of the project, design to delivery!
That upright shipping setup looks pretty strong and stable from where I'm sitting.
I love your videos. Seeing the price of diesel at the conoco across the street really drives home the cost of living in California when it’s $2.00 more per gallon. I miss the country.
Packaging it up was almost as detailed as the building of the wheel. Thanks for sharing and I hope it makes it safely.
One alternative was how a water wheel is mounted onto its frame at the axle point because it's angled legs transferred any side forces to the base like a pyramid. How it's going to be hung/lighted would be an interesting video unto it self since the ceiling/mounts holding strength should be at least 3-4X the wheels weight just for safety. Kudos on another Borax Wheel build and will look forward to knowing what it's twin will be used down the road for because a Unicycle for Paul Bunyan comes to mind :)
That kneeling made me wince. I don't kneel on cement, or anything, anymore without some cushioning.
If I need to kneel down onto a hard surface I always use a foam kneeling pad.
You sir, are a true artisan , much admiration and respect
Couldn't have done it better myself! 😉
Again, marvellous watching someone work. Just glad it is you Dave.
nb. Love the single axle trailers in the States. Here in Australia, they love axles, axles are good. the more the betterer, and would have at least 3 under that bugger. Reckon the rules are made by manufacturers of Axles and Tyres, here.
I hope you get some photos of the installed chandelier and can let us, your faithful followers, see how it looks.
That was impressive. What a fantastic build. As always thanks for sharing...Vic
Beautiful wheels and awesome crating job!!! It must've cost a fortune to ship those! I'm sure the owner will be pleased.
So you turned a circle into a triangle so it would ship in a rectangle.
Geometry is weird.
More like a hexagon, as opposed to a triangle .... :D But you're right, geometry is weird...
@@jimmurphy6095
The big box, around the wheel is a triangle... 15:36
A wonderful bit of creative packaging Sir.
This is better built than lots of houses! Looks perfect!
Dave, after seeing that crating job, I'm IMPRESSED!
Almost think it would have been easier to make
another Borax wagon. Your work is just amazing!
steve
You're good at building everything.
From what I’ve seen you did a good job on putting a crate around it.
You did and excellent job packing that up for shipping.
As my father would say: "He** for stout!" Lookin' good!
Brilliant! I live in Virginia, love to see it!
That is certainly something. When the crating gets its very own episode. I think standing it up was a good decision.
Brilliant...the only thing I’d be concerned about is the removal of those nails on those inner supports....you have to help with the uncrating to guarantee no one ruins that piece of art
Your crate came out very nice - I was very curious how you were going to do it!
Shipping and handling... $$$$$ Wow! Looks like a great job!
Love to see the uncrating and installation of it
you certainly are a master woodworker thank you for the video
Good job, thinking can produce a good result!
The better you crate it the more of a challenge for the dock workers.
Everyone’s up for a challenge this time of the year.
I think it’ll get there fine.