Which TAG Heuer Monaco is right for you? Calibre 11 (CAW211P) vs Calibre 12 (CAW2111)
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Which TAG Heuer Monaco is right for you? Calibre 11 (CAW211P) vs Calibre 12 (CAW2111)
If you're weighing up which TAG Heuer Monaco to buy, between two modern blue-dialled variants, this video is for you. Time and Tide Watches explore the 2015 re-issue of the 'McQueen', the Calibre 11 (CAW211P) vs the Calibre 12 (CAW2111) in Monaco, as the Formula 1, roars past in the background.
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The Calibre 11 is untouchable ... there's something so uniquely cool about this watch. Unlike anything else on the market. I want one!
Heisenberg’s watch.........
McQueen’s watch…originally.
The "MONACO Calibre 11" is infinitely beautiful!
Calibre 12 is for me. I ve seen it myself. The blue dial is much more eye catchy than the mat blue in calibre 11. No one would notice the minute differences but the royal blue is an eye turner.
Watched your video. Pulled the trigger on the Calibre 11. Watched your video again. Thank you!
This Iconic watch grew on me, with its stunning looking dail. For me its one of the biggest names out there the ( Monaco) its a real statement having this badboy on your wrist. Calibre 11 wins it for me by far Heuer rocks
calibre 11 definetly !! such a cool watch
i didnt plan to buy a watch. went into a store to change a strap. saw calibre 11. fall in love n immediately bought it. n watched this video. calibre 11 monaco is my best purchase by far
Cal.12. I like this modern interpretation. Personally I think if it wasn’t for the success of the CS2110 and the CW2113 I’m not sure if cal.11 (CAW211P) would have even been produced. Apparently the original 1133 didn’t sell at the time and was discontinued after 4 years. I’m sure TH bore this in mind when they relaunched them in 1998.
This is certainly the best explanation of calibre 11 vs 12. Exemplary job!
Thanks for the video. I just ordered the Calibre11.... can't wait
Oh my Lord that Monaco 11 is just a beautiful watch!
Great video - thanks for creating. I was looking at the Calibre 12 but following this detailed review pulled the trigger on the Calibre 11 and absolutely love it. Look forward to more of this style of video - keep up the great content!
Nottah happy travels!
Great comparison, great review, and love the web-site as well.
Only nitpick didn't affect my appreciation of the review, but I'll never quite understand how so many watch reviewers and enthusiasts hate change. A 50 year-old watch is somehow automatically a good thing and any attempt to update it is blasphemy. It's not. It's a watch.
I'll take the 12 -- better dial, like the contrast of the circular indices with the square case, but no hate for the 11. Also a great, great watch. All preference.
Thanks for watching, Andrew here. I don't mind change, love the new Bond watch with fake patina and also the TH Monza - based on classic designs but nicely updated. The real thing for me in this comparison was the dial. I much prefer the matte birds egg blue of the Cal11 to the sunburst of the cal12. Thanks for watching.
No need to hesitate, go for caliber 11, that’s nearest to original, just get it. Stunningly beautiful and classic, always looks elegant on your wrist. Btw just Heuer logo will do, anything more is just unnecessary.
I've bookmarked a Monaco that's more within my price range - it's the black faced, alligator strapped WAW131A.FC6177. I love the Monaco's look - the square case sets it apart from all others.
I'd go with the cal.11 too.
The 12 was featured in Breaking bad. So i instantly would choose that one.
If you want to appreciate a racing legacy, get the Calibre 11. If you want to appreciate killing nine prisoners across different prisons in two minutes, get the Calibre 12.
Lmao I didnt realize the Walter white one was the calibre 12 I thought jesse got him the 11. I'll get the 11 i love both breaking bad and steve mcqueen but I'd rather have the original way they intended it to be.
Lolll
understand that the 12 is the TAGHEUER Monaco -refined ,polished while the 11 is the HEUER Monaco -racing ready...... both are stunning
I bought a Titan - instantly regretted it - its the calibre 11 Steve McQueen. That the ONLY Monaco you need ! I bought one of those too !
Heuer may have just won the race to the patent but the Zenith El Primero is a far, far superior movement. That said, I have a Tag Monaco Linear System which I love (the fact that the chronograph hour hand dropped off is a minor glitch). I also own an El Primero and it is the best....just ask Rolex, they used it in their Daytona’s for many years....high praise indeed!
Did anyone else notice that they used a engine noise from the old v8s at 1:04?
Another difference is that Calibre 12 has 80 hours of power reserve whereas the 11 has 40.
I would still prefer the 11 because of the asthetics.
90% of watch fans prefer the cal 11. Why? Because it comes closer to the prototype? Is it a good reason to be so absolute about a watch? All famous watches come in many variations. Because it has a beter mechanism? I dont think there is a big difference in the mechanisms in those 2 watches. And if there is a difference most of us cant even notice it. As the nice guy in the video said, one is mostly casual the other is more dressy. And that can easily change with a different strap. Personally i find the colors of cal 12 more interesting and also the left side crown in cal 11 seems a little... out of place. Anyway i would like to place on the table a different point of view...
what legacy ? It was worn as a prop in a movie by an actor, who wore a Rolex in real life. If it wasn’t for Tag Heuer reissuing them they would have been long forgotten.
You only need the Cal 11. Got my McQueen 2015 when it was released with the cool box etc. and never looked back. Funnely had my on the wrist todays as the time changed so got ti admire it and also wondering how expensive one is today.. glad I had it for 7 years now
Calibre 11 Gulf Edition here & love it!
Good video; it would of been good to understand what's the difference in the movements; 11 vs 12.
I’ll buy it someday... thank you for the review 👍🏼🙏🏼
got 1
The more I look at the two in vids and in the metal, and being completely honest, I have to say that:
- the sunray blue of the Cal.12 is maybe just a bit too shiny,
- the deep blue of the Cal. 11 is maybe just a bit too flat...
Probably worthwhile to think out if the box and consider other colors, too.
Excellent review! You guys gotta make more videos like this.
Calibre 11 captures the ethos of this watch perfectly. It's not suppose to be a dress watch
No tachymeter no race watch. Heuer poster 1969 said ‘ it is equally at home behind a glass of champagne as it is behind the wheel of a yacht’.
I own the same Monaco. It's my choice and the one to get.
I would chose left side crown Monaco. no doubt
Yep, the Calibre 11 is the daddy! Love it!
got 1
2:56 to see which watch goes with your dressy blue crocs.
Really torn between the Monaco caliber 11 and the Zenith El Primero Manufacture edition.
breaking bad brought me here :)
Tay phone
Yes likewise after watching
breaking bad am definitely going to buy one
Dont get the reference, despite being a BB fan. Please explain
@John Doe didn't realise. Wasnt a tag huer fan back then
Crayzee- Jesse bought Walter White a Calibre 12 as a gift on the show
Great video! One of the best Monaco vids! Leaning toward the 11. May have to get both though! ;)
If I’m getting a Monaco, I’m getting the Gulf edition, for sure.
Sorry but Zenith El Primero was first to be presented to the public (i.e., they won!)..Zenith presented their prototype watches to the public a few months before Tag and Seiko did. Also, Zenith used (uses) a HIGH BEAT INTEGRATED COLUMN WHEEL movement, not an inferior cam operated modular chrono movement. The El Primero went on to win many awards and accuracy competitions and is still used in a similar carnation this very day (unlike the Heuer or Seiko movements). Enough said!
Anyway, this watch is a beauty.
Watch Aficionado Bollocks. Zenith had only two (2!) semi-functioning prototypes and a local only press release. At this time Heuer had 100, all fully-functional, divided amongst the 4 developmental parties for testing. They (Zenith) were also the LAST to offer them to the public for sale. Seiko personally congratulated Heuer for winning the race! Both Heuer and Seiko registered U.S. Patents before Zenith. I absolutely love the El Primero as well, but they used sneaky tactics in both name and media to attempt to claim a win when they knew they were months behind in the race. 1. Heuer 2. Seiko 3. Zenith. Your argument neither holds water nor does it hold up in court.
I purchased the 12 but thinking about exchanging it for the 11. I really like the extra details, don’t mind the extra $800
Do you feel with the leather strap that it moves around the wrist
The best place to buy a tag watch is at Colombian Emeralds in the Caribbean dutyfree and tax free. Also same as cash financing is offered.
Gorgeous watch, really informative video thank you. Just subscribed after watching this.
stephen mcneill welcome mate
Top video, never knew about the difference
The 1133B with Cal.12
I thought when I clicked on this video I’d see a bunch of breaking bad comments lol😂
There are some here haha
Excellent video
Education
Most iconic watch
Lovely video. Stylish and informative.
Appreciate that, thank you
Love this watch 👍
Does this mean Bill Blass style never died, it's coming back?
Calibre 11 - My Ultimate watch
It will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine
Calibre 11, all day long.
Let's get the 40th Anniversary in on this....
...and how about the Monaco Calibre 6 (sans chronograph) for those who want a simper style - and lower price.
I had one of the original ones & UPS lost it!!!!!!!!! They only paid me for the re-issue! UPS should’ve ponied up & paid me the price for the original 1969/70 but they did not!
Would love one in rose gold
There is no reason whatsoever to take a TAG Heuer when you can get the Heuer. So much better watches in every way. And the CAL 11 is just something, that all watch nerds needs.
Um...
I prefer the 11 & it’s not even close.
11 all the time. Just PURE class.
The Calibre 11 is not faithful to the 1969 model, as the original has a 12-hour totalizer, whereas the new one only has a 30-minute totalizer. I would have bought one if the new one has a 12-hour totalizer.
Heuer always, TAG Heuer nope. Original Heuer 2446C rocks !
Amazing vid!
Excellent review
Heisenberg’s Monaco.
😎
Seiko won, but I love both.
Me personally will buy both double the investment plus u don't now they will become rare after time.
Why do you think they will become rare? Do you think people throw them away or they break or something? I think the numbers can only grow not shrink because they will always be issuing new versions of the watch which will dilute it in some way. However I think it is the choice range from Tag which usually produce watches that offer very poor investment... perhaps this is an exception.
Perfectly worded.
The 12 cuz heisenberg
I like tag heuer alot. I get tag heuer formel 1. And. Tag connected. Monaco I look classy watch not sport because of this. Square design. I like. Tag heuer carrera. Its. My sweet heart watch
My daily wear is the kirium chronograph. I still think it's the most beautiful watch I've ever seen, and it is freakishly accurate. I check it every three or four months and it's never more than two seconds off...
Jacket is too small for the dude.
Steven the guy wants to show how much time he has invested into his muscles...
Sir Alfred Powell that's just not right, Hahaha he'll never get a girl that way!
You didn't mention price..
I did. Watch carefully...
McQueen sucks! Signed: Mr. White (Heisenberg).
Walt's birthday watch from Jesse Pinkman
Haha yep, what a great scene that was!
Can you tell me the track used amazing song
HELLO. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT THE MONACO NON CHRONOGRAPH ? THE ONE WITH THE DATE AT 3 O'CLOCK AND THE SECOND DIAL AT 6 O'CLOCK ?
I think i’m a Calibre 11 guy
11
no cal 36, bye
a perfect watch to wear when you ask someone to kill 12 prisoners in differebt prisons in less than 2 minutes....
Less Talky, More Watchy
Guys this is a TAG! Sorry
bypass the Tag Heuer Monaco & Brew Retrograph Technicolor and get the BERN Ayrton Blue Bi Compax Chronograph for $295!
I bought a very good fake copy of a caliber 2 of a tag huer Monaco and this was a very good copy
I would buy one of those in a heartbeat. But wait, "The center chronograph needles on these prototypes do not work." WTF? Do you know what is up with that? Will they eventually work? Beautiful designs, thank you for putting it on my radar.
Unequaled!
4000€ Sellita ?
That’s what I was saying!! Paying for style and heritage. Not a bad thing but still...
The 11 is only about £500 more but I recently bought the 12, same as the one in this video for literally one reason... the box.
The box which the 11 comes in has an orange racing stripe across the top which looks a bit silly where as the 12 just has a nice understated plain box.
If you are a box collector and look at them every day this seems like a valid reason.
The caliber on both watches are the same eta with dubois depraz module. Not a single resemblance of the original caliber 11
@@rsucesso the original 11 is a icon. The newer versions are overpriced marketing gimmick.
@@JeeGee114 never in my life, I heard someone make a decision on presentation box..mind blown
snob feeling from this video
A Monaco is a Heuer not a TAG Heuer by definition.
Sorry TAG FAIL!
Yes ..... ALL the re-isses are TAG HEUER, they are trading on past glory.....
I was expecting more about the movements rather than the host talking about aesthetics. Disappointing
It’s an off the shelf SW300-1 I think with some minor finishing and a Depraz chrono module. That’s about it.
5:00 cringe.
The original Calibre 11 from Heuer is a masterpiece the Calibre 12 from TAG Heuer is just another piece of over priced trash..
Why the stupid music
Gipsy king :)
Buy a quartz copy which will tell time just as well , then take a holiday around the world with the money you save 🤣🤣🤣
Probably only me that thinks this is a very ugly looking watch.
now this is a proper video and you made the right decision with the 11 👍
Initially thought the starburst dial would win me over, but no. Cal11 forever.
Time+Tide Watches Amen
I bought one and ended up killing 10 prisoners so I won't reccomend
The Archie one... it's the 'fuck you, get the hellouttamyway ya piece of shit' special Monaco edition in blue.