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1st fight we saw from Hisokas view point and had no idea what chrollo was planning or thinking, now we are watching from Chrollo view point and have no idea what Hisoka is doing or planning. This shit is masterful.
Hes getting folded the power ups kuripka and hisoka got are too mjch for him to hanfle and its even worse that they are geniuses who also know how to stratgetize as well. I understand u like chrollo but please dont end up being like that weird chrollo meat riders who think he can no diff them let alone win at all
Kurapika will put it in and the poor chrollo is about to scream, as kurapika moves his hips, chrollo’s insides starts to grip, and kurapika then says "as the fallen angel moans, the moon screams in happines, so the sun can wake up and feel her sadness, maybe one day we can finally stay together".
I understand that Chrollo doesn't fear death and walks with it, but we have to remember that when Chrollo was captured by Kurapika, he had already known his future from Neon Nostrade. And he was sure, as he states, that what was happening to him, won't have any real effect. He would not die because it wasn't in the prophecy
Honestly seeing Gon ask Chrollo how he could just kill people who have nothing to do with him. And then seeing what Gon becomes later on in the series makes me realize Gon wasn't just a mirror of Uvogin but also a mirror of Chrollo too
Kind of a stretch because Gon got his revenge at no ones expense but his own, and hasn't turned into a literal domestic terrorist. Rn in the manga he's probably still on Whale Island rizzing up the only other kid his àge and girl on the island.
@@abortedphoenix Meteor city people were dumped over by society. They got rid of mafia and other faction of criminals at the cost of some troupe members, also we don’t know the details of the night kurta clan was killed, I feel like togashi is gonna reveal it soon if if in this arc chrollo faces kurapika one on one. Chrollo being chrollo while Gon taking his revenge were both right in their own stance.
@@saptarshichakraborty7474 Ok? that has nothing to do with Chrollo CHOOSING to be a domestic terrorist though. And we don't need details of the night the Kurta were murdered. By that point Chrollo and the other spiders had already exacted their revenge on their friends killer and by this point they're full blown mercenaries and terrorists.
Chrollo abandoned himself to become one of the villains from the movies he grew up with. The world was black and white to him at that point as a child, and having to come to terms that reality and morality is a lot more complicated than in superhero films is clearly causing him a lot of trouble. He gave Hisoka a cartoonish 1v1 because he wants to maintain that movie fantasy to some degree, and the fact that it turned out the way it did has seemingly caused him to dissociate pretty badly. I think Togashi decided to finally give us the Troupe's backstory now for a reason, since it's more important than ever to understand Chrollo on a more personal level. That's how I look at it anyway
SUPURB!!! Chrollo answering Gon was an insight I did not think about. Beautiful. Thx for bringing it to attention Togashi is too high IQ for me. But my god I love it
Your analysis is brilliant. Please read this theory of mine: Chrollo Sun and Moon theory I made 5 months ago: It is a very long read so bear with me.... We see young Chrollo being able to imitate other fictional characters in perfect manner, so much so that it appears that he is the guy who is performing the role instead of that character. This represents chrollo's innocent nature and we get the first glimpse of Chrollo's identity. His identity was of a young charismatic kid who was willing to go extra mile for his friends and just be good to everyone in general, just like a young shounen protagonist. If everything went on smoothly we could have seen Chrollo grow up as a good natured man who is contributing positively to society in many ways, but things doesn't go as planned, his youngest sibling dies at the hands of Mafia and it completely shatters Chrollo's innocence, it essentially destroys his innocent identity and Chrollo is left without a specific nature, but one specific purpose i.e. revenge for Sarasa and making sure that what happened should never happen again to meteor city people. He formulates Phantom troupe as an extension of himself, and sets up the organization in the manner of a company, where he is the director and the rest of phantom troupe are members of the company, if he dies some other member can take his place, but the most important thing is the survival of the company that is "Spider". Chrollo assumes that spider is his identity, but in reality he feels he is still missing something, a purpose(we get this info when Gon contronts chrollo on why he kills people who had nothing to do with him). We notice that the initial purpose of the spider was to take revenge for Sarasa and create darknet to catch the culprits and make sure it never happens again. Along the ways we get clues that Spider have changes slightly, they have become an organization without a specific purpose, they do whatever they want. It seems Chrollo and other have at least achieved one specific objective i.e. finding Sarasa's killers, otherwise they would still be focusing on that aspect, maybe they found the people who killed Sarasa, but didn't find the main mastermind who was behind all the kidnappings. Now chrollo has done all this to establish his own identity which he lost years ago(The sweet innocent kid). HIs nen ability also reflects his lack of identity, Just like he steals the act of fictional power cleaners, he also steals nen abilities and makes them his own, he uses those nen abilities in ways the original user could not have even dreamt off. Enter Hisoka, the clown Magician. Hisoka represents the exact opposite kind of entity to chrollo, he oozes personality and identity, he is absolutely sure of what he wants and he won't change his ways, he is set in his ways unlike anyone Chrollo has ever met. This fascinates Chrollo to no end, so much so that other phantom troupe members also takes notice. Here Feitan is complaining to Nobunaga on why Chrollo let Hisoka do as he pleases, in return Nobunaga replies that because Hisoka is good. I believe the reason is because Chrollo is fascinated by Hisoka's character and wants to see him do as he wishes, as he seems someone with so much character and identity, something he lacks for himself. Chrollo feels compelled to let Hisoka do as he pleases. We see that how Hisoka betrays the troupe, causing Chrollo to lose his nen and death of Uvogin and Pakunoda. Chrollo essentially agrees to deal with Hisoka so that he can get his nen back, but he remembers that he needs to teach Hisoka a lesson. Hisoka, whenever he fights someone goes out of his way to reveal about Bungee gun( Bungee gum has the properties of rubber and gum), essentially flexing on his opponents that even when he reveals the mechanics of his ability, he will still win, he is absolutely sure. Chrollo decides that he will teach hisoka a good lesson by turning the tables on his, he immediately goes on to prepare for the battle, he steals Sun and Moon, Order stamp, and Convert Hands, he also borrows Black Voice and Gallery Fake from his teammates. He also modifies skill hunter by creating Bookmark to be able to use two abilities at the same time, by performing additional tedious conditions. He choses the location of the fight to give him home ground and on the day of the match he proceeds to explain all of his abilities and how they works to hisoka as a flex. Notice that the entire strategy of Chrollo revolves around Sun and Moon nen ability, as this ability is a nen after death ability, the original owner of the ability is dead and the ability is still active in Chrollo's hands. Now it is not possible to remove Sun and Moon from Chrollo's arsenal as there is no possible way to do it, it is a permanent nen ability available with chrollo, as long as chrollo is alive and able to use nen, he will always be able to use Sun and Moon. This ability shows what Chrollo truly is capable of, with Sun and Moon he is capable of using at least 7 or more abilities at the same time, and that is without holding the book i.e. he doesn't need to hold the book to be able to use multiple abilities as sun and moon will force those other abilities to remain open. Now we should pay attention to the fact that Sun and Moon has become an anchor point to almost all of chrollo's abilities as only with Sun and Moon he is able to express himself at his core level, he is strongest and most dangerous when he is using sun and moon. No other combo of abilities can even match the sun and moon. We notice that Chrollo has changed again and again, but after stealing Sun and Moon we see an identity of Chrollo at his most clearest, as with sun and moon he can express his will/nen the most After Chrollo has killed Hioska and left the area presuming that Hisoka is done for, he informs Shalnark that they will be travelling on the boat to the Dark Continent and also steal the treasure from Kakin kingdom, but when he notices that two of his abilities are missing and Machi reports that Hisoka has revived himself and Killed Shalnark and kortopi, and has threatened to kill the entire phantom troupe. He is worried for the first time about losing what he has built all these years. While he is slowly gaining an identity of his own through sun and moon, he is losing his identity through the spider. Now currently Chrollo is at his most vulnerable place, he doesn't have the abilities to utilize sun and moon at its most effective, he needs an abilities that manipulates either people or puppets, previously he needed Order stamp in conjunction with Gallery fake to manipulates puppets, but if Chrollo were to steal an ability that can manipulate large no of people without the puppet restriction of Order stamp, he will be able to use Sun and Moon at its fullest. Now for the speculation of what is to come, I believe that Chrollo and Tserriednich will come in contact and somehow Chrollo's past will come to the forefront of the entire plot thread. Chrollo at his end will go out in a blast caused by Suicide Bombing of sun and moon by manipulating himself and self destructing. Going forward all abilities that Chrollo steals will be either directly or indirectly in service to facilitate the full use of his sun and moon ability, and that will be Chrollo's identity, a terrorist who bombs people for revenge.
Doubt this will happen but if he stole illumis ability he could make bombs out of needle people. I doubt Chrollo would try and take out hisoka with another bomb tho, as he is looking for the three treasures and such to ensure hisoka stays dead
Honestly if Machi didn’t run her mouth to Hisoka after the fight then the Phantom Troupe wouldn’t have been on Hisoka’s hit list. It was her that gave the obvious implication that Chrollo cheated 😂
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Considering chrollo is looking for a skill that will help him steal national treasures, and his history with neon nostrade, I think he will use the same tactic on Fugestu for her wormhole/teleportation skill, which would also cause him to clash with Melody
I feel like Togashi draws his characters simple so when he draws a character incredibly detailed they stick out from the rest and people are much more focused on them.
I've believed Tserriednich brings this whole cycle to the start. We know people he associates with were in that section if Meteor City. Kidnapping children. It's pretty messed up. But eho do we know who is sick enough to do unspeakable things to Serasa? I have a few theories about the Kurta involvement. Seeing as Tserriednich has the most extensive collection of scarlet eyes and a head (another reason to add to it). I'll just say he's involved in a lot going on here. I can see Togashi forcing Kurapika and Chrollo to team up temporarily. The the Spiders are criminals but they left a letter in this instance with their slogan in Meteor city. Togashi won't disappoint. He absolutely blows me away sometimes with his story setups.
Chrollo faught 1v1 with Hisoka bc Hisoka did him a favor by finding the nen exorcist. Not because he was selfish, but because he accepted the deal with Hisoka, give him a 1v1 if the nen curse from Kurapika was exorcised. 👍
Thanks for the video! Can you make one on tserriednich's abilities (the nen beast from the succesion included), also there's a theory that the 2nd nen beast the tall one is related to it as well, when he was watching Theta it was in the third person and from th angle it looked like it was from the nen beast's perspective
Chrollo looked and is giving off the Gon vibes when he was about to throw everything away to kill the ant. I think Chrollo will do the same thing give every lthing up for more nen to kill the clown.
Strange thought from me. What if Chrollo's backup plan for running the Spiders after he's gone is Kurapika? Particularly because he and Kurapika would have the same goals if indeed it is Tserriednich and that tattoo artist who are responsible for both the kidnappings and deaths of Chrollo's village friends and members, and Kurapika's people, respectively. If anything, the Spiders would be an upgrade for Kurapika to not only accomplish his goals, but also, perhaps, release him from the conditions of his technique that he placed on the Spiders that would enable him to further develop and perhaps expand it. Think about it, both Chrollo and Kurapika have condition based nen techniques that make them strong as specialists. All Chrollo would have to do is give Kurapika the information he needs to set him off. I am saying, necessarily, that Kurapika would become some version of a bad guy himself in order to accomplish his goals. He's going to need to be that guy anyway if/when he finds out definitively that Tserriednich is indeed this terrible guy; and by the time this happens, Tserriednich is likely going to be incredibly strong after his nen technique/s development. This is a guy in Tserriednich that doesn't seem to care that the Hiel-ly mafia and Morena have betrayed everyone and are on a mission to wipe them all out. On a side note, Morena looks alot like Tserriednich. I wouldn't be surprised if he's done terrible things to her in the past as well.
I feel aboslutley no sympathy for chrollo and the spiders. They kill people and children in a close enough way that mirrors sarasa's death and enjoy it if you see Uvogin's example. They didn't simply go for those who inflicted them harm, but even decided to harm those who were innocent. Why? To maximize and terrorize people into ever even thinking about hurting them. I understand that, but it is a stupid strategy. Which is why i find chrollo's initial motivation frankly stupid to be honest. But i understand the trap that is his character. In some inerpretations of christianity, rationality and satan are equated, because if you are completley rational and zero emotion, you can justify horrible things in the name of rationality - look at the history of the 20th century for that. Get rekt is all i have for chrollo and the spiders.
Your videos are great bro, I can clearly feel that you have read this manga a lot of times. This feels like a treat after watching my fellow mediocre french reviewers lol
there is certainly no happiness within Hisoka: At 1:28 I would say for Hisoka destruction pointing to the outside, and for Chrollo destruction pointing inwards. the rest of the analysis I very much enjoyed!
11:46 holy shit i completely forgot this the troupe not killing gon and killua after meeting them at the end makes so much sense tho i do forget why Kurapika stopped going after the troupe
I read the picture as more pure hate and willingness to do anything than despair. I think the rest of the phantom troupe is disparaged by what Chrollo is becoming but Chrollo is locked in, that is fire in his eyes.
0:20 theorizing. I feel this is a depiction of postmortem nen being activated/locked/promised so to speak. Kinda letting the reader know his death is imminent, but his will to complete his mission remains. I feel like characters were shown this way before their PMN activated. Maybe it depicts that final condition before death being completed. JUST Thinking though, Ik this may sound crazy lol.
So close to 2025 and the community still isn’t in a consensus on what really happened in Chrollo vs Hisoka so I will leave a link below and my conclusion: 1. Chrollo cheated that’s how he managed to fool Hisoka so much during their battle and all the inconsistencies 2. Hisoka in retaliation to the Spyder will end the whole Spyder 3. Chrollo betrayed the Spyder by avoiding the 1v1 and maddening the Sick Clown The rest of the analysis is pretty solid but I think we should already accept that Chrollo cheated th-cam.com/video/ETPOj5y-FOQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=seCxWFRZF35eZ1az
Oh man I m particularly eating so good! :)) I have so many things to add to how you described and you did described good Chrollo. In Paku's words : "Most human individual, yet the most inhuman individual". The single fact that Chrollo wears a cross on his forehead and drive the spider which contains another 12 peoples, similarly to how Jesus had 12 companions, yet he is what he became. Nah I m not gonna start to talk about it more :))) I might as well start to right a book about him which will probably happen if he dies :)) Ah genial.
I do believe 4P is tied to Sarasa. I’ve also been entertaining a theory I heard on another channel. He thinks it’s a bit hairbrained, but threw it out there anyway, and I’m glad he did… What IF due to some sort of post mortem something, Sarasa is still around? I believe Chrollo discovering that would make him question quite a bit. For the longest time I thought maybe Chrollo would have to team up with Kurapika to go against 4P, but now with this new theory in my head, I’m not sure what to speculate.
What if the phone call ability we saw is actually leading chrollo to tserriednich, as he’s “perfect match” this would give him the purpose he’s looking for other than hisoka of course.
I don't think he is looking for the fourth prince it is probably someone else that peaks Chrollo interests and is probably going to have to see in chapter 407.
The ability itself is dependent on criteria typed onto the phone by Chrollo, so i dont it would be because of that. But it's still possible the person that fits the criteria is Tseri since we have no knowledge of what Chrollo put in
I think Chrollo in a weird way whether he survives as the sole survivor in isolation or dies a gruesome death. Will find solace - despite him being the best villain he could be. Fully confirming that eventually people will atone for their crimes. That there is bo getting away from justice, since he could never find his friend's killers. Knowingly or unknowingly, set up conditions to test fabric of the world's manner of karma. Self crucifixion to save himself from the words inscribed in that letter.
I'm gonna present another theory, it's not that chrollo doesnt know himself it's more about he doesn't care about himself, but cares about the spider more thats how he defines himself. The conflict happens when he tried to do things his way but tell the spider to do something else. If we look into the first chrollo vs hisoka, why would chrollo agree to this? If it's for the benefit of the spider's survival they should just jump on him without honoring the deal/fight, it's safer and the chance of a spider's dying is smaller. But chrollo choose a sure-win victory with his meticulous planning, it works until hisoka gets revived. He repeated the same mistake in this arc too, he tells the spiders to pair up and whoevers meet hisoka first gets a chance to kill him, and then he split up with his spider partner as a reason to pursue his personal goal, to steal the sacred kakin treasure and upgrade his hunter skill to deliver a sure-win strategy. If he thinks that a group of spider is enough to kill hisoka why would he needs to go extra miles to upgrade his nen? if he knew that it's not enough to kill hisoka why would he devise a plan that risks another spider to die? I personally think chrollo is selfish hypocrite who rationalize what he do with "for the spider's sake" but in reality he just do what he does because he wants to. He doesn't need a 100%win strat against hisoka, even if he dies the spider would be okay, theres probably a chance where hisoka becomes disinterested in the spider after chrollo's death. Upgrading his nen skill is unnecessary and a very risky plan to do alone, I think it's the opposite of hisoka in the way that chrollo is a perectionist who is anxious if his plan is not executed as it is while hisoka is just a person who lives in the moment and improvise whenever he can. To add on that, the whole "the spider will lives on without me" is a cope. While chrollo believes he has implanted the spider ideology its been proven over time that spider follows him for himself not for his ideologies. So the panel with chrollo drawn differently is actually the dread he is feeling, but still facing it with vitality because he felt the spider is coming to an end, it's his own fault and he tries everything he can to cope.
I think Kurapika will become the new head of the Spider. Chrollo has a lot of signs showing he is probably going to die. Kurapika might abandon his humanity once he sees the head of his best friend being held by Tserriednich.
I think hisoka is hunting the troupe not cause chrollo cheated or anything, but that he wants a good fight. Hisoka can read people very well, and has spent a good time around chrollo. He should know that Chrollo has no real identity, and is playing the villan out of a desire for revenge. His values lie in self sacrifice for the spider, and if anything he is hoping he dies. The spider is built off his desire to protect his friends, and so he values the legs much more than the head. Hisokas fight with Chrollo was life changing, but the Chrollo he fought has time to prep, had a confirmed victory and didn't share the passion Hisoka had. In order to give Chrollo a reason to fight, he has promised to kill the spider, and spared machi to relay the message. This has paid off, as now the troupe is hunting him, Chrollo is set on killing Hisoka and he's pushing his nen to the next level by evolving skill hunter. Hisoka is getting everything he wants and his hoping with a rematch with an enraged and far more powerful Chrollo. Chrollo doesn't care what happens to him anymore, and is convinced that he will die aboard the black whale. He has no fear as he trusts the spider to sustain itself. He is wrong though, as the troupe values Chrollo too much, and will try and kill Hisoka before Chrollo can. In York New citt
Maybe he chose to kill the kuruta and steal their eyes to power up his technique too. Now that i think about it, he stoled many important things from the mafia and next time we see him using his power, he has the book marker 🤔 Btw, besides killing the Kuruta, do we know of other evil actions committed by him? Im not counting killing mafia members as evil. Feitan and Phinks kill a bunch of greed island players, but that wasn't Chrollo's command. I feel like we're getting a lot more of "redeeming qualities" now but at the beginning we thought they were just irredeemable monsters that killed my boy Kurapica's clan. Is Togashi trying to makes us forgive them?
Do you think Chrollo will create some form of Nen technique relating to the Phantom Troupe that will exist even after his death similar to the Meteor City's Elder?
Hello, may I ask you to try Dan Da Dan? Even though there are a bit of inappropriate jokes (most revolving about balls), besides that it's peak. Would be glad to see you review it like JJK when it's got more chapters or when you finish HunterXHunter.
Welp he shouldnt have started beefing the top 10 nen users/strongest characters in the verse who are not only talented geniuses but are willing to do everything it takes to get their get back so thats on him. It doesnt help that both of them got extremely overpowered power ups sense then where one literally have reverse curse techique and infinite post mernum nen and the other one with a bing vow that allows him to use and master all nen types at once with him being a genius who was able to make this vow even stronger than before. So i dont feel bad for chrollo nor the troop even though i like them alot😂
What if kurapika actually forgives chrollo and that changes the entire prerequisite for this nen?? Will he be able to use his chains all the time ?? Et is already a broken ability will he be able to use it freely ?? or will he be nenless like gon because that was his entire focus for his nen abiliry?? HXH is so deep omg
Chlorro already know its sterri who order the kill of his friend, thats why they take the mission of killing the kulta clan for sterri in order to get close to sterri
Just like with gon nen can become a corrosive curse, if the depravity is need enough...a good anime example is Magi and the idea of depravity in that anime
I disagree I don’t think that sketch of chrollo represents despair I think it represents absolute focus to the point he will sacrifice it all to achieve his goal
Here is my analysis: Chrollo is simply a hypocrite. He is upset that Kortopi and Shalnark are dead because of Hisoka's doing, yet they all knew that they [the spider] tricked him by giving Hisoka the fight he wanted using some sort of trickery. Chrollo was assisted by the other members during their fight in the heavens arena, and Hisoka found out about this, so he had all the rights to be mad AF. Also, let's not forget that Hisoka played a big role in the successful exorcism of Chrollo's nen curse, so the fact that him getting betrayed by the spiders gives him more fuel to go on berserk. These spiders are so weird and unreasonable. Lol
Nope Hisoka wasn't mad, it's the opposite : he was happy af seeing that chrollo was so powerful. But he also understand that he can not beat someone like chrollo if let him have prepation ( time to gather the good nen power) . That's why he decide to take some cards ( sharnalk and korutopi) out of chrollo hand. This also guarantee that he'll have a fight with chrollo again cause he could've just ignored him otherwise. And noo chrollo is not hypocrite, it's the opposite again. He clearly show his feelings.
@@santatrarakotoarimino5316 i agree, hisoka was very much aware that chrollo was preparing for the fight. chrollo even names all his abilities before the fight and hisoka agrees what’s happening now is that chrollo feels guilty that he failed to kill hisoka, which led to two more troupe members being killed. this guilt is even more profound after pokunoda sacrifices herself for chrollo if anyone is a hypocrite, it’s hisoka for being a sore loser lmaoo
Thing is Chrollo ability is to steal abilities. How is that trickery when it’s his power? The others ‘’helping’’ him by giving Chrollo their power doesn’t make it cheating I don’t why it does
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1st fight we saw from Hisokas view point and had no idea what chrollo was planning or thinking, now we are watching from Chrollo view point and have no idea what Hisoka is doing or planning. This shit is masterful.
That's the goat togashi right there doing goated stuff.
When the Chrollo stops Chrollo-ing, and the Lucifer starts Lucifering u know it's peak manga
Chrollo aka the sensei of hxh showing another side of him hell Angel is going to fall upon black whale ship. It is going to be full out of war.
It's Lucilfer
@@kingkuroai5387it’s definitely intentionally one letter away from Lucifer bro… kinda pedantic
Are you dumb?
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One correction. Chrollo didn’t want a 1v1. The 1v1 was Hisoka’s reward for helping with the nen exorcist.
He still didn't have too he could've been like
"Thanks bozo die."
bro is reaping what he sowed
High level video. Chrollo is a grown man and one of the scariest people in the world but he’s still just a lil boy putting on an act.
😂
Chrollo is definitely a driving force for me in this arc, amazing character, I cannot wait to see what happens.
Just a loser who kills innocent people😂
@@Dionysos_____Alters Hey now, he’s.not _just_ a loser who kills innocent people; he is also a connoisseur of books who steals from innocent people.
Same he’s the reason I’m so interested right now he’s best character to me
Hes getting folded the power ups kuripka and hisoka got are too mjch for him to hanfle and its even worse that they are geniuses who also know how to stratgetize as well. I understand u like chrollo but please dont end up being like that weird chrollo meat riders who think he can no diff them let alone win at all
@@Dionysos_____Alters😂
We can say that Chrollo became that 'monster' Yuta is talking about. Lol
Yeah, except Yuta had the "good" ending (in worldwise, because writingwise Yuta's whole thing was kind of a shitshow)
Yeah yuta is a pg-13 ass chrollo
Yuta conclusion is shit tho
@@WaituSnaiku yuta's conclusion was pretty fairy-tale like tho, he basically lost nothing really.
This monster thing was such a waste of time, it ended up in nothing
all your videos are excellent man, keep it up
thank you! 🙏🏻
We finally got bloodlust Chrollo panel.
Kurapika finna have the best day of his life.
For sure the fam troupe pack is coming soon.
Kurapika will put it in and the poor chrollo is about to scream, as kurapika moves
his hips, chrollo’s insides starts to grip, and kurapika then says "as the fallen angel moans, the moon screams in happines, so the sun can wake up and feel her sadness, maybe one day we can finally stay together".
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That panel of chrollo isnt just chrollo in a state of despair.. but absolute rage..
I understand that Chrollo doesn't fear death and walks with it, but we have to remember that when Chrollo was captured by Kurapika, he had already known his future from Neon Nostrade. And he was sure, as he states, that what was happening to him, won't have any real effect. He would not die because it wasn't in the prophecy
The Batman of the HxH Verse
Prep time makes him OP
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@Azeral7 get off my mushroom tip "Azeral7"
Very good analysis 💯💯💯💯
preciate you!
"Are you Chrollo because you're the spider's head, or are you the spider's head because you're Chrollo?"
Honestly seeing Gon ask Chrollo how he could just kill people who have nothing to do with him. And then seeing what Gon becomes later on in the series makes me realize Gon wasn't just a mirror of Uvogin but also a mirror of Chrollo too
Kind of a stretch because Gon got his revenge at no ones expense but his own, and hasn't turned into a literal domestic terrorist. Rn in the manga he's probably still on Whale Island rizzing up the only other kid his àge and girl on the island.
@@abortedphoenix Meteor city people were dumped over by society. They got rid of mafia and other faction of criminals at the cost of some troupe members, also we don’t know the details of the night kurta clan was killed, I feel like togashi is gonna reveal it soon if if in this arc chrollo faces kurapika one on one. Chrollo being chrollo while Gon taking his revenge were both right in their own stance.
@@saptarshichakraborty7474 Ok? that has nothing to do with Chrollo CHOOSING to be a domestic terrorist though. And we don't need details of the night the Kurta were murdered. By that point Chrollo and the other spiders had already exacted their revenge on their friends killer and by this point they're full blown mercenaries and terrorists.
Chrollo abandoned himself to become one of the villains from the movies he grew up with. The world was black and white to him at that point as a child, and having to come to terms that reality and morality is a lot more complicated than in superhero films is clearly causing him a lot of trouble. He gave Hisoka a cartoonish 1v1 because he wants to maintain that movie fantasy to some degree, and the fact that it turned out the way it did has seemingly caused him to dissociate pretty badly. I think Togashi decided to finally give us the Troupe's backstory now for a reason, since it's more important than ever to understand Chrollo on a more personal level. That's how I look at it anyway
SUPURB!!!
Chrollo answering Gon was an insight I did not think about. Beautiful. Thx for bringing it to attention
Togashi is too high IQ for me. But my god I love it
I think chrollo was obligated to give him the 1x1 because it was hisoka that found the nen exorcist
Your analysis is brilliant. Please read this theory of mine:
Chrollo Sun and Moon theory I made 5 months ago: It is a very long read so bear with me....
We see young Chrollo being able to imitate other fictional characters in perfect manner, so much so that it appears that he is the guy who is performing the role instead of that character. This represents chrollo's innocent nature and we get the first glimpse of Chrollo's identity. His identity was of a young charismatic kid who was willing to go extra mile for his friends and just be good to everyone in general, just like a young shounen protagonist.
If everything went on smoothly we could have seen Chrollo grow up as a good natured man who is contributing positively to society in many ways, but things doesn't go as planned, his youngest sibling dies at the hands of Mafia and it completely shatters Chrollo's innocence, it essentially destroys his innocent identity and Chrollo is left without a specific nature, but one specific purpose i.e. revenge for Sarasa and making sure that what happened should never happen again to meteor city people.
He formulates Phantom troupe as an extension of himself, and sets up the organization in the manner of a company, where he is the director and the rest of phantom troupe are members of the company, if he dies some other member can take his place, but the most important thing is the survival of the company that is "Spider". Chrollo assumes that spider is his identity, but in reality he feels he is still missing something, a purpose(we get this info when Gon contronts chrollo on why he kills people who had nothing to do with him).
We notice that the initial purpose of the spider was to take revenge for Sarasa and create darknet to catch the culprits and make sure it never happens again. Along the ways we get clues that Spider have changes slightly, they have become an organization without a specific purpose, they do whatever they want. It seems Chrollo and other have at least achieved one specific objective i.e. finding Sarasa's killers, otherwise they would still be focusing on that aspect, maybe they found the people who killed Sarasa, but didn't find the main mastermind who was behind all the kidnappings. Now chrollo has done all this to establish his own identity which he lost years ago(The sweet innocent kid). HIs nen ability also reflects his lack of identity, Just like he steals the act of fictional power cleaners, he also steals nen abilities and makes them his own, he uses those nen abilities in ways the original user could not have even dreamt off.
Enter Hisoka, the clown Magician. Hisoka represents the exact opposite kind of entity to chrollo, he oozes personality and identity, he is absolutely sure of what he wants and he won't change his ways, he is set in his ways unlike anyone Chrollo has ever met. This fascinates Chrollo to no end, so much so that other phantom troupe members also takes notice.
Here Feitan is complaining to Nobunaga on why Chrollo let Hisoka do as he pleases, in return Nobunaga replies that because Hisoka is good. I believe the reason is because Chrollo is fascinated by Hisoka's character and wants to see him do as he wishes, as he seems someone with so much character and identity, something he lacks for himself. Chrollo feels compelled to let Hisoka do as he pleases.
We see that how Hisoka betrays the troupe, causing Chrollo to lose his nen and death of Uvogin and Pakunoda. Chrollo essentially agrees to deal with Hisoka so that he can get his nen back, but he remembers that he needs to teach Hisoka a lesson. Hisoka, whenever he fights someone goes out of his way to reveal about Bungee gun( Bungee gum has the properties of rubber and gum), essentially flexing on his opponents that even when he reveals the mechanics of his ability, he will still win, he is absolutely sure.
Chrollo decides that he will teach hisoka a good lesson by turning the tables on his, he immediately goes on to prepare for the battle, he steals Sun and Moon, Order stamp, and Convert Hands, he also borrows Black Voice and Gallery Fake from his teammates. He also modifies skill hunter by creating Bookmark to be able to use two abilities at the same time, by performing additional tedious conditions. He choses the location of the fight to give him home ground and on the day of the match he proceeds to explain all of his abilities and how they works to hisoka as a flex.
Notice that the entire strategy of Chrollo revolves around Sun and Moon nen ability, as this ability is a nen after death ability, the original owner of the ability is dead and the ability is still active in Chrollo's hands. Now it is not possible to remove Sun and Moon from Chrollo's arsenal as there is no possible way to do it, it is a permanent nen ability available with chrollo, as long as chrollo is alive and able to use nen, he will always be able to use Sun and Moon. This ability shows what Chrollo truly is capable of, with Sun and Moon he is capable of using at least 7 or more abilities at the same time, and that is without holding the book i.e. he doesn't need to hold the book to be able to use multiple abilities as sun and moon will force those other abilities to remain open.
Now we should pay attention to the fact that Sun and Moon has become an anchor point to almost all of chrollo's abilities as only with Sun and Moon he is able to express himself at his core level, he is strongest and most dangerous when he is using sun and moon. No other combo of abilities can even match the sun and moon.
We notice that Chrollo has changed again and again, but after stealing Sun and Moon we see an identity of Chrollo at his most clearest, as with sun and moon he can express his will/nen the most
After Chrollo has killed Hioska and left the area presuming that Hisoka is done for, he informs Shalnark that they will be travelling on the boat to the Dark Continent and also steal the treasure from Kakin kingdom, but when he notices that two of his abilities are missing and Machi reports that Hisoka has revived himself and Killed Shalnark and kortopi, and has threatened to kill the entire phantom troupe. He is worried for the first time about losing what he has built all these years. While he is slowly gaining an identity of his own through sun and moon, he is losing his identity through the spider.
Now currently Chrollo is at his most vulnerable place, he doesn't have the abilities to utilize sun and moon at its most effective, he needs an abilities that manipulates either people or puppets, previously he needed Order stamp in conjunction with Gallery fake to manipulates puppets, but if Chrollo were to steal an ability that can manipulate large no of people without the puppet restriction of Order stamp, he will be able to use Sun and Moon at its fullest.
Now for the speculation of what is to come, I believe that Chrollo and Tserriednich will come in contact and somehow Chrollo's past will come to the forefront of the entire plot thread. Chrollo at his end will go out in a blast caused by Suicide Bombing of sun and moon by manipulating himself and self destructing.
Going forward all abilities that Chrollo steals will be either directly or indirectly in service to facilitate the full use of his sun and moon ability, and that will be Chrollo's identity, a terrorist who bombs people for revenge.
Doubt this will happen but if he stole illumis ability he could make bombs out of needle people. I doubt Chrollo would try and take out hisoka with another bomb tho, as he is looking for the three treasures and such to ensure hisoka stays dead
Honestly if Machi didn’t run her mouth to Hisoka after the fight then the Phantom Troupe wouldn’t have been on Hisoka’s hit list. It was her that gave the obvious implication that Chrollo cheated 😂
lmao
Goated analysis dude!
Your videos are the best, you have really good charisma and comunicate so well.. Been here since the return of HxH and been loving all the videos. Thank you, Tserinimist ♥
Considering chrollo is looking for a skill that will help him steal national treasures, and his history with neon nostrade, I think he will use the same tactic on Fugestu for her wormhole/teleportation skill, which would also cause him to clash with Melody
I feel like Togashi draws his characters simple so when he draws a character incredibly detailed they stick out from the rest and people are much more focused on them.
Chrollo Lucifer: " my name is chrollo lucifer but my friends like to call me boss"
I need him to win man he’s my favorite hxh character he’s got me so invested man🥺🥺
7:03 I'm glad you mentioned this part.
I've believed Tserriednich brings this whole cycle to the start. We know people he associates with were in that section if Meteor City. Kidnapping children. It's pretty messed up. But eho do we know who is sick enough to do unspeakable things to Serasa? I have a few theories about the Kurta involvement. Seeing as Tserriednich has the most extensive collection of scarlet eyes and a head (another reason to add to it). I'll just say he's involved in a lot going on here. I can see Togashi forcing Kurapika and Chrollo to team up temporarily. The the Spiders are criminals but they left a letter in this instance with their slogan in Meteor city.
Togashi won't disappoint. He absolutely blows me away sometimes with his story setups.
Chrollo faught 1v1 with Hisoka bc Hisoka did him a favor by finding the nen exorcist. Not because he was selfish, but because he accepted the deal with Hisoka, give him a 1v1 if the nen curse from Kurapika was exorcised. 👍
Peak incoming
Thanks for the video! Can you make one on tserriednich's abilities (the nen beast from the succesion included), also there's a theory that the 2nd nen beast the tall one is related to it as well, when he was watching Theta it was in the third person and from th angle it looked like it was from the nen beast's perspective
Aurora thank you so much for the support! I talk about this here: th-cam.com/video/Lm2VfQFygqY/w-d-xo.html
Chrollo looked and is giving off the Gon vibes when he was about to throw everything away to kill the ant. I think Chrollo will do the same thing give every lthing up for more nen to kill the clown.
Great analysis and made me feel for Chrollo again 😢
Ah finally some mangatuber who hasn’t an exaggerated voice and no background music 🎉
Strange thought from me. What if Chrollo's backup plan for running the Spiders after he's gone is Kurapika? Particularly because he and Kurapika would have the same goals if indeed it is Tserriednich and that tattoo artist who are responsible for both the kidnappings and deaths of Chrollo's village friends and members, and Kurapika's people, respectively. If anything, the Spiders would be an upgrade for Kurapika to not only accomplish his goals, but also, perhaps, release him from the conditions of his technique that he placed on the Spiders that would enable him to further develop and perhaps expand it.
Think about it, both Chrollo and Kurapika have condition based nen techniques that make them strong as specialists. All Chrollo would have to do is give Kurapika the information he needs to set him off.
I am saying, necessarily, that Kurapika would become some version of a bad guy himself in order to accomplish his goals. He's going to need to be that guy anyway if/when he finds out definitively that Tserriednich is indeed this terrible guy; and by the time this happens, Tserriednich is likely going to be incredibly strong after his nen technique/s development. This is a guy in Tserriednich that doesn't seem to care that the Hiel-ly mafia and Morena have betrayed everyone and are on a mission to wipe them all out.
On a side note, Morena looks alot like Tserriednich. I wouldn't be surprised if he's done terrible things to her in the past as well.
Anyone who thinks Kurapika will work with Chrollo clearly hasn't been paying attention
In that first picture that first art work, hisoka represents Madness and Chrollo represents Death
Nice analysis
I feel aboslutley no sympathy for chrollo and the spiders. They kill people and children in a close enough way that mirrors sarasa's death and enjoy it if you see Uvogin's example. They didn't simply go for those who inflicted them harm, but even decided to harm those who were innocent. Why? To maximize and terrorize people into ever even thinking about hurting them. I understand that, but it is a stupid strategy. Which is why i find chrollo's initial motivation frankly stupid to be honest. But i understand the trap that is his character. In some inerpretations of christianity, rationality and satan are equated, because if you are completley rational and zero emotion, you can justify horrible things in the name of rationality - look at the history of the 20th century for that.
Get rekt is all i have for chrollo and the spiders.
Great video man!
Great video !
Your videos are great bro, I can clearly feel that you have read this manga a lot of times.
This feels like a treat after watching my fellow mediocre french reviewers lol
screw that...im going to be your new subscriber
there is certainly no happiness within Hisoka: At 1:28 I would say for Hisoka destruction pointing to the outside, and for Chrollo destruction pointing inwards.
the rest of the analysis I very much enjoyed!
11:46 holy shit i completely forgot this the troupe not killing gon and killua after meeting them at the end makes so much sense tho i do forget why Kurapika stopped going after the troupe
They were thinking about it
The relationship between Chro and Soka is like watching a villain make another villains life miserable
I read the picture as more pure hate and willingness to do anything than despair. I think the rest of the phantom troupe is disparaged by what Chrollo is becoming but Chrollo is locked in, that is fire in his eyes.
I'm not a fan of the channel but this video is actually pretty good!
This is beautiful
0:20 theorizing. I feel this is a depiction of postmortem nen being activated/locked/promised so to speak. Kinda letting the reader know his death is imminent, but his will to complete his mission remains. I feel like characters were shown this way before their PMN activated. Maybe it depicts that final condition before death being completed. JUST Thinking though, Ik this may sound crazy lol.
So close to 2025 and the community still isn’t in a consensus on what really happened in Chrollo vs Hisoka so I will leave a link below and my conclusion:
1. Chrollo cheated that’s how he managed to fool Hisoka so much during their battle and all the inconsistencies
2. Hisoka in retaliation to the Spyder will end the whole Spyder
3. Chrollo betrayed the Spyder by avoiding the 1v1 and maddening the Sick Clown
The rest of the analysis is pretty solid but I think we should already accept that Chrollo cheated
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Ah well idk Hisoka don't really play fair tho
Oh man I m particularly eating so good! :)) I have so many things to add to how you described and you did described good Chrollo.
In Paku's words : "Most human individual, yet the most inhuman individual".
The single fact that Chrollo wears a cross on his forehead and drive the spider which contains another 12 peoples, similarly to how Jesus had 12 companions, yet he is what he became.
Nah I m not gonna start to talk about it more :))) I might as well start to right a book about him which will probably happen if he dies :)) Ah genial.
I do believe 4P is tied to Sarasa.
I’ve also been entertaining a theory I heard on another channel. He thinks it’s a bit hairbrained, but threw it out there anyway, and I’m glad he did…
What IF due to some sort of post mortem something, Sarasa is still around?
I believe Chrollo discovering that would make him question quite a bit.
For the longest time I thought maybe Chrollo would have to team up with Kurapika to go against 4P, but now with this new theory in my head, I’m not sure what to speculate.
What if the phone call ability we saw is actually leading chrollo to tserriednich, as he’s “perfect match” this would give him the purpose he’s looking for other than hisoka of course.
I don't think he is looking for the fourth prince it is probably someone else that peaks Chrollo interests and is probably going to have to see in chapter 407.
The ability itself is dependent on criteria typed onto the phone by Chrollo, so i dont it would be because of that. But it's still possible the person that fits the criteria is Tseri since we have no knowledge of what Chrollo put in
I think Chrollo in a weird way whether he survives as the sole survivor in isolation or dies a gruesome death. Will find solace - despite him being the best villain he could be. Fully confirming that eventually people will atone for their crimes. That there is bo getting away from justice, since he could never find his friend's killers. Knowingly or unknowingly, set up conditions to test fabric of the world's manner of karma. Self crucifixion to save himself from the words inscribed in that letter.
I'm gonna present another theory, it's not that chrollo doesnt know himself it's more about he doesn't care about himself, but cares about the spider more thats how he defines himself. The conflict happens when he tried to do things his way but tell the spider to do something else. If we look into the first chrollo vs hisoka, why would chrollo agree to this? If it's for the benefit of the spider's survival they should just jump on him without honoring the deal/fight, it's safer and the chance of a spider's dying is smaller. But chrollo choose a sure-win victory with his meticulous planning, it works until hisoka gets revived.
He repeated the same mistake in this arc too, he tells the spiders to pair up and whoevers meet hisoka first gets a chance to kill him, and then he split up with his spider partner as a reason to pursue his personal goal, to steal the sacred kakin treasure and upgrade his hunter skill to deliver a sure-win strategy. If he thinks that a group of spider is enough to kill hisoka why would he needs to go extra miles to upgrade his nen? if he knew that it's not enough to kill hisoka why would he devise a plan that risks another spider to die?
I personally think chrollo is selfish hypocrite who rationalize what he do with "for the spider's sake" but in reality he just do what he does because he wants to. He doesn't need a 100%win strat against hisoka, even if he dies the spider would be okay, theres probably a chance where hisoka becomes disinterested in the spider after chrollo's death. Upgrading his nen skill is unnecessary and a very risky plan to do alone, I think it's the opposite of hisoka in the way that chrollo is a perectionist who is anxious if his plan is not executed as it is while hisoka is just a person who lives in the moment and improvise whenever he can.
To add on that, the whole "the spider will lives on without me" is a cope. While chrollo believes he has implanted the spider ideology its been proven over time that spider follows him for himself not for his ideologies. So the panel with chrollo drawn differently is actually the dread he is feeling, but still facing it with vitality because he felt the spider is coming to an end, it's his own fault and he tries everything he can to cope.
Cope stop forcing your ideas on my goat
Agree
I see less despair, but more quiet yet sheer fury
This is why I love Hunter x Hunter!
Great analysis,....
Share the link to the coloured manga.
I think Kurapika will become the new head of the Spider. Chrollo has a lot of signs showing he is probably going to die. Kurapika might abandon his humanity once he sees the head of his best friend being held by Tserriednich.
best hxh asnalysis ever
I think hisoka is hunting the troupe not cause chrollo cheated or anything, but that he wants a good fight. Hisoka can read people very well, and has spent a good time around chrollo. He should know that Chrollo has no real identity, and is playing the villan out of a desire for revenge. His values lie in self sacrifice for the spider, and if anything he is hoping he dies. The spider is built off his desire to protect his friends, and so he values the legs much more than the head. Hisokas fight with Chrollo was life changing, but the Chrollo he fought has time to prep, had a confirmed victory and didn't share the passion Hisoka had. In order to give Chrollo a reason to fight, he has promised to kill the spider, and spared machi to relay the message. This has paid off, as now the troupe is hunting him, Chrollo is set on killing Hisoka and he's pushing his nen to the next level by evolving skill hunter. Hisoka is getting everything he wants and his hoping with a rematch with an enraged and far more powerful Chrollo.
Chrollo doesn't care what happens to him anymore, and is convinced that he will die aboard the black whale. He has no fear as he trusts the spider to sustain itself. He is wrong though, as the troupe values Chrollo too much, and will try and kill Hisoka before Chrollo can. In York New citt
Maybe he chose to kill the kuruta and steal their eyes to power up his technique too. Now that i think about it, he stoled many important things from the mafia and next time we see him using his power, he has the book marker 🤔
Btw, besides killing the Kuruta, do we know of other evil actions committed by him? Im not counting killing mafia members as evil. Feitan and Phinks kill a bunch of greed island players, but that wasn't Chrollo's command.
I feel like we're getting a lot more of "redeeming qualities" now but at the beginning we thought they were just irredeemable monsters that killed my boy Kurapica's clan. Is Togashi trying to makes us forgive them?
Edg thank you for the support man! I talk about this at the end of my video here: th-cam.com/video/DXEuTuDIWAg/w-d-xo.html
I love when hunter x hunter just breaks the art sequence with panels like Chrollo's in this chapter. That thing is haunting
I’d say I think he blames himself for being arrogant and telling hisoka about nen after death
Well, l hope Hisoka won't die. Of these two characters, I prefer him😂Great analysis
Fuck all this Kakin BS I want my man Lucilfer to show em why they are KNOWN around the world for a reason. He’s the CAPTAIN for a REASON.
Do you think Chrollo will create some form of Nen technique relating to the Phantom Troupe that will exist even after his death similar to the Meteor City's Elder?
The drawing of his face is a spider, with the light and fire in his eyes
Hello, may I ask you to try Dan Da Dan? Even though there are a bit of inappropriate jokes (most revolving about balls), besides that it's peak. Would be glad to see you review it like JJK when it's got more chapters or when you finish HunterXHunter.
I want hisoka to capture him after putting all the other spiders to rest, then to do sus things to him for a month before putting him to reat.
He won’t break, he’ll just die
Kurapika x Chrollo are mcs of dc arc
Welp he shouldnt have started beefing the top 10 nen users/strongest characters in the verse who are not only talented geniuses but are willing to do everything it takes to get their get back so thats on him. It doesnt help that both of them got extremely overpowered power ups sense then where one literally have reverse curse techique and infinite post mernum nen and the other one with a bing vow that allows him to use and master all nen types at once with him being a genius who was able to make this vow even stronger than before. So i dont feel bad for chrollo nor the troop even though i like them alot😂
What if kurapika actually forgives chrollo and that changes the entire prerequisite for this nen?? Will he be able to use his chains all the time ?? Et is already a broken ability will he be able to use it freely ?? or will he be nenless like gon because that was his entire focus for his nen abiliry?? HXH is so deep omg
Damn I bet the troupe wished they didn’t let chrollo become a killer like how Gon looked out for Curapica. During the auction
❤ damn Idk who to feel concerned for.
Chlorro already know its sterri who order the kill of his friend, thats why they take the mission of killing the kulta clan for sterri in order to get close to sterri
Theory out there is that Morena is actually Sarasa or Sheila !!
Just like with gon nen can become a corrosive curse, if the depravity is need enough...a good anime example is Magi and the idea of depravity in that anime
Best nen user…yoshihiro Togashi
Chrollo might actually crash out
He havent even finish avenging uvogin from Kurapika and now Hisoka.
Bring back slick backed hair Chrollo, when he was a gangster.
New Chrollo is soft!
Hisoka W incoming!
i think the spider or the skill hunter book will be his legacy
Mark my words Gon will return and gain nen back with the help of Kite!!!
If chrollo steals the seed urn I see bonolenov becoming a prince and winning the war preferable prince wobble with a deal to oito
I love Light, gets killed
I love Eren Yeager, gets killed
I love Chrollo, probably gets killed too
When is slick back wet look chrollo coming back I miss him😢
get with the times messy hair is in
Should I read HxH
I disagree I don’t think that sketch of chrollo represents despair I think it represents absolute focus to the point he will sacrifice it all to achieve his goal
It's ok I can fix him
Gyo 👀:
... that Kuroro drawing is Shadowing a spider in his face, that's why the nose in kinda bigger 👀🧐.
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Leorio the real MVP of HXH. without him, all our heroes would be amoral a-holes like Chrollo lol
Here is my analysis:
Chrollo is simply a hypocrite.
He is upset that Kortopi and Shalnark are dead because of Hisoka's doing, yet they all knew that they [the spider] tricked him by giving Hisoka the fight he wanted using some sort of trickery.
Chrollo was assisted by the other members during their fight in the heavens arena, and Hisoka found out about this, so he had all the rights to be mad AF.
Also, let's not forget that Hisoka played a big role in the successful exorcism of Chrollo's nen curse, so the fact that him getting betrayed by the spiders gives him more fuel to go on berserk.
These spiders are so weird and unreasonable. Lol
Nope Hisoka wasn't mad, it's the opposite : he was happy af seeing that chrollo was so powerful. But he also understand that he can not beat someone like chrollo if let him have prepation ( time to gather the good nen power) . That's why he decide to take some cards ( sharnalk and korutopi) out of chrollo hand. This also guarantee that he'll have a fight with chrollo again cause he could've just ignored him otherwise.
And noo chrollo is not hypocrite, it's the opposite again. He clearly show his feelings.
@@santatrarakotoarimino5316 i agree, hisoka was very much aware that chrollo was preparing for the fight. chrollo even names all his abilities before the fight and hisoka agrees
what’s happening now is that chrollo feels guilty that he failed to kill hisoka, which led to two more troupe members being killed. this guilt is even more profound after pokunoda sacrifices herself for chrollo
if anyone is a hypocrite, it’s hisoka for being a sore loser lmaoo
Thing is Chrollo ability is to steal abilities. How is that trickery when it’s his power? The others ‘’helping’’ him by giving Chrollo their power doesn’t make it cheating I don’t why it does
@@asanizeguy4119he was already gonna kill/fight the spiders either way
"Chrollo was assisted by the other members during their fight in the heavens arena"
No he wasn't
Oh shiet you doing HxH now okay !
Mangaka try not to come down with some nondescript chronic disease and die slowly even though you’re still young challenge:
Before o want to know why the kurta cancel culture happen
manga please read berserk🖤