This is inaccurate and wrong messaging by CBC. The fact is, Parks Canada has known for over 20years that the park n land surrounding Jasper needed to be fuel mitigated. It was one of the most unhealthy forests you could go into after the pine beetle ran through. They didn't clean it up and burn it slowly, they stopped the low intensity fires and it led to this one. To blame this solely on the climate changing is ridiculous and just false. Poor forest management is the main cause of these large intense fires. Try focusing on things you can controllable, not just fear mongering the weather.
That’s ridiculous. Forests do not need “management”, they need to be left alone. Pine beetles are endemic because of climate change. Climate change is caused by the pollution from capitalism. The rich are destroying the world.
Consider this: With all the downed trees across the southern US, from the storms, when that wood dries out ( And it will ), there are potentially going to be some major problems with forest fires. This risk of fires, might potentially have a ripple effect on home and property values across the entire SE United States
No where in that article does it mention that for the last couple of years, the Canadian government has stopped doing the preburns around the community of Jasper.
I was in Jasper back in 2000 it was like being in a Christmas calendar or Walt Disney movie so beautiful your brain had problems understanding , the air so pure it tasted like perfection,I watched a mountain goat cross the street not 20 feet away, an elk followed a woman carrying her grocierys home, its tounge trying to grab the lettuce that poked out of the bag, my hart is broken for the Jasperions , it will take 20 years to come back, it will be different but it will be beutifull again, I'm glad I will all ways remember Jasper and that I saw what I seen
This had way more to do with poor forest management. the decades of ignoring the huge deadfall build up and the rampant beetle killed trees that were not allowed to be removed, but it is way easier to blame climate change. funny enough when this area was managed , by the indigenous of the area they would burn that valley ever 30 and 60 years it was a much more productive and bio diverse valley back then that supported much game and food.that is why they did it. but parks Canada's theory is never touch a single twig. yes there would still have been a fire but everyone i have spoken to says the same thing the intensity would have been much less, so maybe look at the parks big wigs in Ottawa and ask them why nothing was done despite being warned of several decades that things were brewing.
Dumbest comment ever, this is poor habitation management. I love Jasper, would live there if I could, but the fact of the matter is that the community is built in a natural fire path in a valley between mountains. The trees are/ were literally 10 to 20 feet away from buildings. At the end of the day, living in a clearly high risk fire zone is a decision that falls on those who chose to live there. If their insurance will cover then that is great I guess
Quite tye opposite, if things were allowed to burn naturally there would be no issues. The concept of "forest management" seems to be centralized on how to allow humans to occupy spaces that were previously wild and have historically burned hundreds of time throughout their existence
@@realityisblurred3330 clearly you have no clue what you are talking about and you are here just to counter any actual information on this subject have a nice life. I will not reply to any further comments from you.
In regards to forest management and Indigenous practice. The indigenous nations of Australia burned and even manually thinned vegetation on an annual basis. Particularly in the south eastern regions. This was both land management and a form of farming. Modern studies also back that this practice helps reduce larger fires and is also beneficial to bio diversity. While there is some modern style prescribed burning and some return to indigenous methods. This is still not nearly enough. Most of Australia is currently in a La Nina related wet cycle. When this ends it will be very bad situation indeed. Unless there is rapid change in thinking and application. I understand that Canada is a very different environment. But what needs to be challenged is this notion of you cant touch it because its nature. Never have we as Humans been separate. With changes in climate and other factors like invasive plants and insects, some places actually need touching more than ever. It is time to get some common sense back into conservation. Good luck. 👍au
A good glimpse into the effects of the fire in Jasper. Missing is any reference to WHY the "world is warming"... And the final 2 women speaking, in the CBS studio, also give the impression that "we just have to accept this and adapt". Yes, we have to accept our current atmospheric reality, BUT it will only get unimaginably worse if we do not address the cause - the burning of fossil fuels - while doing everything in our power to prepare ourselves for the current frequency and severity of fires (droughts, floods, heatwaves, etc).
Long droughts after years of successful fire suppression makes the forest fuels build up and as you can see burns hot. Short of clearing all forests and trees, in a town with lots of wood or shingle roofs the embers will still get you. If anything the forests needs MORE effective management. Even still, with climate change these are not normal conditions.
There was no drought. I live in the next town over and it rained almost every day for weeks and weeks before the fire started. Poor forest management, not climate change.
@@user9b2 the mountain pine beetle killed off a lot of the trees in the area and nothing was done to clear it. The people with degrees in forest management said this would happen years ago already. Its not like all the reports arent all online and hosted on government websites. Nobody reads those reports till something happens though.
I would live on a floodplain before I would live on dry land, it is much easier to manage water than it is fires, just build a house on stilts like in Louisiana. Water Good, Fire Bad
Well this is inaccurate.. check out the most recent hurricane in Florida, some of the worst damaged areas, were up in the mountains hundreds of kms from lakes or oceans. The water rose up to 30 feet in some cases. In the mountains. People are currently selling their homes for tiny cash deals because they didn't have flood insurance in the mountains.. because.. why the fk would they need it? What happened is supposed to be "impossible"
*Hi. I live in BC, Canada (That's next door to Alberta, on the Western side against the Pacific Ocean). This wasn't Global Warming - This was bad Forest Management. When you leave too much deadwood fall and don't clear it out, then you setup explosive kindling for intense Fire Tornadoes. The clear giveaway was the unusually high burning fire temperature intensity. The intensity of the burn is the tell tale sign of too much deadfall around Jasper's surrounding forest.*
Funny how this hot take is only being offered up now and only on here?? I bet you're an expert on everything...... but wrong on almost all of it too! *edit* yup nice channel of yours a christofascist and a faux Christian. What am embarrassing investment in your life spreading lies and snake oil. i'll pray for you.
@@realityisblurred3330 It is interesting to note how you took this opportunity to attack my personal beliefs as a person of Faith, and name call Me. These issues have nothing to do with my comments about the Jasper fire. Do you live in this Western Region of Canada ? Well, I do, and I claim I know a little something about the environment I reside in thanks. Funny ? Your name calling reminds me of the American National Party which also called the supporters of the other party "fascists," and also expressed open hatred and hostility toward Christians. I'm referring to "Democrats," and this party just lost the US Election by an unprecedented landslide. I guess that's how people who think like you roll ?
@@realityisblurred3330 these hot takes are not just being offered up now and on here. These hot takes were in reports the government itself was releasing. The issue is nobody was reading them. After this fire happened people started to actually read these long reports and it was pretty obvious that the government knew this was an issue. The town of Jasper itself was warning about it years ago already.
@markjob6354 it is interesting you took time to reply to a news story on TH-cam and offered a false narrative because of your faith and then cry self serving, self righteous victimization when criticized and challenged for it. I'm not a wolf, but you're a sheep. Or shall I say deadwood? Enjoy the flock. I don't hate you, you just want to justify your self righteous ignorance but wow if you think this is what gets you into heaven.
@markjob6354 Im from Alberta and been to Jasper lots too by the way ignoramus. Guess that makes me more expert? This province has been Conservative led 86 of the last 90 years. It cant always be JT's fault, ignoramus.
Don't give up on doing something about global warming. With the lunatics now fully in charge of the asylum, it is up to ALL of us to make governments act.
😂 except the Government is powerless to do anything when greedy people want a 500 Hp truck to pull their 36’ travel trailer @ 130 km/h… and then they own three other vehicles a boat and 4 ATV’s… and buy untold amounts of crap made oversea’s which come over on diesel fired ocean vessels. If you want to do something then showcase the virtues of a minimalist lifestyle.
the world is doing just fine, ignore the headlines and look at the facts, as for trump America voted in the Psycho dictator and in the years to come will realise what a huge mistake they made but that is their problem not ours.
That Forrest up there at jasper is not natural at all it is what man has made it, in the past it was much more bio diverse. way more poplars and open areas, but that all stopped once parks Canada took over and that is why decades of deadfall went uncleared and millions of beetle killed trees were never removed, I live not far from there and the forests here are fire based forests they need fire to survive but we keep putting them out and the jasper fire was the result of what I call preserving the forest to death.
You can hear the anguish in her voice 😢🙏🇨🇦❤️✌️
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This is inaccurate and wrong messaging by CBC. The fact is, Parks Canada has known for over 20years that the park n land surrounding Jasper needed to be fuel mitigated. It was one of the most unhealthy forests you could go into after the pine beetle ran through. They didn't clean it up and burn it slowly, they stopped the low intensity fires and it led to this one. To blame this solely on the climate changing is ridiculous and just false. Poor forest management is the main cause of these large intense fires. Try focusing on things you can controllable, not just fear mongering the weather.
That’s ridiculous. Forests do not need “management”, they need to be left alone. Pine beetles are endemic because of climate change. Climate change is caused by the pollution from capitalism. The rich are destroying the world.
Consider this: With all the downed trees across the southern US, from the storms, when that wood dries out ( And it will ), there are potentially going to be some major problems with forest fires. This risk of fires, might potentially have a ripple effect on home and property values across the entire SE United States
Man, that's gut-wrenching
The Can Gov let pine beetle spread which lead to dead trees everywhere in a national park. Fire caused due to Incompetent forest management.
No where in that article does it mention that for the last couple of years, the Canadian government has stopped doing the preburns around the community of Jasper.
That's why we need millions of people working the forests again in north America!
Hello , how are you doing
I was in Jasper back in 2000 it was like being in a Christmas calendar or Walt Disney movie so beautiful your brain had problems understanding , the air so pure it tasted like perfection,I watched a mountain goat cross the street not 20 feet away, an elk followed a woman carrying her grocierys home, its tounge trying to grab the lettuce that poked out of the bag, my hart is broken for the Jasperions , it will take 20 years to come back, it will be different but it will be beutifull again, I'm glad I will all ways remember Jasper and that I saw what I seen
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This had way more to do with poor forest management. the decades of ignoring the huge deadfall build up and the rampant beetle killed trees that were not allowed to be removed, but it is way easier to blame climate change. funny enough when this area was managed , by the indigenous of the area they would burn that valley ever 30 and 60 years it was a much more productive and bio diverse valley back then that supported much game and food.that is why they did it. but parks Canada's theory is never touch a single twig. yes there would still have been a fire but everyone i have spoken to says the same thing the intensity would have been much less, so maybe look at the parks big wigs in Ottawa and ask them why nothing was done despite being warned of several decades that things were brewing.
Dumbest comment ever, this is poor habitation management. I love Jasper, would live there if I could, but the fact of the matter is that the community is built in a natural fire path in a valley between mountains. The trees are/ were literally 10 to 20 feet away from buildings. At the end of the day, living in a clearly high risk fire zone is a decision that falls on those who chose to live there. If their insurance will cover then that is great I guess
Quite tye opposite, if things were allowed to burn naturally there would be no issues. The concept of "forest management" seems to be centralized on how to allow humans to occupy spaces that were previously wild and have historically burned hundreds of time throughout their existence
None of what you said has any truth to it, Dave. Bad bot!
@@realityisblurred3330 clearly you have no clue what you are talking about and you are here just to counter any actual information on this subject have a nice life. I will not reply to any further comments from you.
In regards to forest management and Indigenous practice. The indigenous nations of Australia burned and even manually thinned vegetation on an annual basis. Particularly in the south eastern regions. This was both land management and a form of farming. Modern studies also back that this practice helps reduce larger fires and is also beneficial to bio diversity.
While there is some modern style prescribed burning and some return to indigenous methods. This is still not nearly enough. Most of Australia is currently in a La Nina related wet cycle. When this ends it will be very bad situation indeed.
Unless there is rapid change in thinking and application.
I understand that Canada is a very different environment. But what needs to be challenged is this notion of you cant touch it because its nature. Never have we as Humans been separate. With changes in climate and other factors like invasive plants and insects, some places actually need touching more than ever.
It is time to get some common sense back into conservation. Good luck. 👍au
This was entirely preventable. Dead kindle surround the town for years and Parks did nothing. Totally preventable
Left untouched, this will grow back much more spectacularly than you can ever imagine. A naturally occurring event.
I have no side in this fight, im rooting for nature to win.
We are nature, time to figure out what we need to do.
Mother Nature is our landlord, if we don’t take care of our property she has no problem evicting us for good
@@pambp5978nothing we can do now but watch it all fall apart
Everybody complains about the effects of global warming, but nobody wants to contribute to slow it down. Let somebody else fix it.
That's a shame
Despite your loss, rebuild. The people will come
A good glimpse into the effects of the fire in Jasper. Missing is any reference to WHY the "world is warming"... And the final 2 women speaking, in the CBS studio, also give the impression that "we just have to accept this and adapt". Yes, we have to accept our current atmospheric reality, BUT it will only get unimaginably worse if we do not address the cause - the burning of fossil fuels - while doing everything in our power to prepare ourselves for the current frequency and severity of fires (droughts, floods, heatwaves, etc).
Crown land couldn’t go in national park and clear
It was bad forest management....
Long droughts after years of successful fire suppression makes the forest fuels build up and as you can see burns hot. Short of clearing all forests and trees, in a town with lots of wood or shingle roofs the embers will still get you. If anything the forests needs MORE effective management. Even still, with climate change these are not normal conditions.
Do you have a degreed in forest management? I think you had no idea what you are talking about.
There was no drought. I live in the next town over and it rained almost every day for weeks and weeks before the fire started. Poor forest management, not climate change.
@@Ryan.HannahAgreed. I was going to say, first comment is on point. Second one completely wrong..
@@user9b2 the mountain pine beetle killed off a lot of the trees in the area and nothing was done to clear it. The people with degrees in forest management said this would happen years ago already. Its not like all the reports arent all online and hosted on government websites. Nobody reads those reports till something happens though.
I would live on a floodplain before I would live on dry land, it is much easier to manage water than it is fires, just build a house on stilts like in Louisiana. Water Good, Fire Bad
Well this is inaccurate.. check out the most recent hurricane in Florida, some of the worst damaged areas, were up in the mountains hundreds of kms from lakes or oceans.
The water rose up to 30 feet in some cases. In the mountains. People are currently selling their homes for tiny cash deals because they didn't have flood insurance in the mountains.. because.. why the fk would they need it?
What happened is supposed to be "impossible"
but nobody discussed all the dead pine trees from the Pine Beetle.
Better forest management and fewer bureaucrats.
Environment Canada can take full responsibility for this disaster
*Hi. I live in BC, Canada (That's next door to Alberta, on the Western side against the Pacific Ocean). This wasn't Global Warming - This was bad Forest Management. When you leave too much deadwood fall and don't clear it out, then you setup explosive kindling for intense Fire Tornadoes. The clear giveaway was the unusually high burning fire temperature intensity. The intensity of the burn is the tell tale sign of too much deadfall around Jasper's surrounding forest.*
Funny how this hot take is only being offered up now and only on here?? I bet you're an expert on everything...... but wrong on almost all of it too!
*edit* yup nice channel of yours a christofascist and a faux Christian. What am embarrassing investment in your life spreading lies and snake oil. i'll pray for you.
@@realityisblurred3330 It is interesting to note how you took this opportunity to attack my personal beliefs as a person of Faith, and name call Me. These issues have nothing to do with my comments about the Jasper fire. Do you live in this Western Region of Canada ? Well, I do, and I claim I know a little something about the environment I reside in thanks. Funny ? Your name calling reminds me of the American National Party which also called the supporters of the other party "fascists," and also expressed open hatred and hostility toward Christians. I'm referring to "Democrats," and this party just lost the US Election by an unprecedented landslide. I guess that's how people who think like you roll ?
@@realityisblurred3330 these hot takes are not just being offered up now and on here. These hot takes were in reports the government itself was releasing. The issue is nobody was reading them. After this fire happened people started to actually read these long reports and it was pretty obvious that the government knew this was an issue. The town of Jasper itself was warning about it years ago already.
@markjob6354 it is interesting you took time to reply to a news story on TH-cam and offered a false narrative because of your faith and then cry self serving, self righteous victimization when criticized and challenged for it. I'm not a wolf, but you're a sheep. Or shall I say deadwood? Enjoy the flock. I don't hate you, you just want to justify your self righteous ignorance but wow if you think this is what gets you into heaven.
@markjob6354 Im from Alberta and been to Jasper lots too by the way ignoramus. Guess that makes me more expert? This province has been Conservative led 86 of the last 90 years. It cant always be JT's fault, ignoramus.
EXCELLENT report! Thank you.
Total garbage reporting. Everyone who took 3 seconds to google this knows the real story.
Why does the msm use adrenal chrome.
Nice Breaking Bad hat, Mr.
Mayor.
Don't give up on doing something about global warming. With the lunatics now fully in charge of the asylum, it is up to ALL of us to make governments act.
😂 except the Government is powerless to do anything when greedy people want a 500 Hp truck to pull their 36’ travel trailer @ 130 km/h… and then they own three other vehicles a boat and 4 ATV’s… and buy untold amounts of crap made oversea’s which come over on diesel fired ocean vessels. If you want to do something then showcase the virtues of a minimalist lifestyle.
The lunatics are definitely in charge in MAGA Alberta.
Sorry but time for action was decades ago. It’s far too late now that we’re experiencing the changes
Rake Canada Great Again 😂
That has to be the worse cast scenario imo.
DEW.
Blame parks Canada.
And americans make their way to Canada
Our world is dying, we are dying. Trump's victory is going to finish us, there's no future im crying
the world is doing just fine, ignore the headlines and look at the facts, as for trump America voted in the Psycho dictator and in the years to come will realise what a huge mistake they made but that is their problem not ours.
Yeah we’re going extinct no matter who got in office
They could do better forest management but they wanna keep it all natural..
That Forrest up there at jasper is not natural at all it is what man has made it, in the past it was much more bio diverse. way more poplars and open areas, but that all stopped once parks Canada took over and that is why decades of deadfall went uncleared and millions of beetle killed trees were never removed, I live not far from there and the forests here are fire based forests they need fire to survive but we keep putting them out and the jasper fire was the result of what I call preserving the forest to death.
@@davebloggs… it’s true… when you look at pictures from 100 years ago there were maybe half as many trees around Jasper and the mountains in general.