Local Extrema, Critical Points, & Saddle Points of Multivariable Functions - Calculus 3

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  • This calculus 3 video explains how to find local extreme values such as local maxima and local minima as well as how to identify any critical points and saddle points in a multivariable function such as f(x,y).
    Lines & Planes - Intersection:
    • How To Find The Point ...
    Angle Between Two Planes:
    • How To Find The Angle ...
    Distance Between Point and Plane:
    • How To Find The Distan...
    Chain Rule - Partial Derivatives:
    • Chain Rule With Partia...
    Implicit Partial Differentiation:
    • Implicit Differentiati...
    ________________________________
    Directional Derivatives:
    • How To Find The Direct...
    Limits of Multivariable Functions:
    • Limits of Multivariabl...
    Double Integrals:
    • Double Integrals
    Local Extrema & Critical Points:
    • Local Extrema, Critica...
    Absolute Extrema - Max & Min:
    • Absolute Maximum and M...
    ________________________________
    Lagrange Multipliers:
    • Lagrange Multipliers
    Triple Integrals:
    • Triple Integrals - Cal...
    2nd Order - Differential Equations:
    • Second Order Linear Di...
    Undetermined Coefficients:
    • Method of Undetermined...
    Variation of Parameters:
    • Variation of Parameter...
    ________________________________
    Final Exams and Video Playlists:
    www.video-tuto...
    Full-Length Videos and Worksheets:
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  • @TheOrganicChemistryTutor
    @TheOrganicChemistryTutor  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

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  • @yaxsilanroy5951
    @yaxsilanroy5951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2422

    Fxx=-6 ; Therefore it is local maximum as Fxx

  • @gl291000
    @gl291000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    For problem one it should be local max. D < 0 and fxx(a,b) < 0 , then f(a,b) is a local maximum.

    • @elgunhas
      @elgunhas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      D > 0*

    • @Jesupemiabere
      @Jesupemiabere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I noticed that too

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    @CraftReaper-OmarFaruqTawsif 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

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  • @keldonchase4492
    @keldonchase4492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Shouldn't (2,2) be a local maximum? Since fxx is negative?

    • @pjk7685
      @pjk7685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      are the other examples correct? I dont want to study incorrect material....

    • @keldonchase4492
      @keldonchase4492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@pjk7685 I believe so.

    • @firdauspuzi1145
      @firdauspuzi1145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah thats correct

    • @luisvictoria
      @luisvictoria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@pjk7685 Yes, the other examples are correct. Notice how he contradicted himself later saying that fxxfyy - fxy > 0 meaning that it's a local min (which it is).
      Only the first example is incorrect.

    • @aadiliqbalkhan8216
      @aadiliqbalkhan8216 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pjk7685 He may make a silly mistake while solving as any other human but he never teaches anything wrong and never will.

  • @ochiroo5077
    @ochiroo5077 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

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    • @infurnomatt
      @infurnomatt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just to remind you...

    • @aaronlandry3934
      @aaronlandry3934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, same tbh. Better than lectures

  • @raa2869
    @raa2869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    the point (2,2) should be a local maximum because fxx is negative and D is positive!

    • @argachewtone4357
      @argachewtone4357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      were are u from?

    • @imranahmed-mt8wg
      @imranahmed-mt8wg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what does the letter D mean plz help???

    • @muhammadyahya5974
      @muhammadyahya5974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imranahmed-mt8wg D --> second partial derivative test

    • @martiananomaly
      @martiananomaly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@imranahmed-mt8wg Discriminant or Hessian of function f

    • @mrfazul
      @mrfazul 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      true

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  • @juanduarte200
    @juanduarte200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    On the second example, why do we chose (0,0) , (1,1) and (-1,-1) as our points of interest?

    • @abdelrahmanmahmoud5481
      @abdelrahmanmahmoud5481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These points satisfy the two equation

    • @sadhiyausama9504
      @sadhiyausama9504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If that is so, we can have points like (8,2) , (27,3).... also right? Do we need to consider points like these?

    • @trollguyawsomeness
      @trollguyawsomeness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@sadhiyausama9504 Those points aren't valid, as the
      fx value for f(8,2) would be 8(8^3-2)= 8(510) =/= 0
      Only the fy value would be 0, 8(2^3-8) = 8(8-8) = 0
      Only points that make both the derivatives 0 work
      The reason why f(-1,-1) works is because
      fx = 8(-1^3-(-1))= 8(-1+1) = 0
      fy = 8(-1^3-(-1))= 8(-1+1) = 0

    • @sadhiyausama9504
      @sadhiyausama9504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@trollguyawsomeness oh yeah!! Correct..I didn't think about fx..Thank you so much

    • @Sai1ence
      @Sai1ence 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      The method isn't shown, but you just solve for a variable in the 1st equation and substitute for it in the 2nd so you only have an equation with respect to a single variable. Like this:
      First, our initial equations are:
      [1] 8(x^3 - y) = 0, [2] 8(y^3 - x) = 0
      We can divide equation [1] and [2] by '8' on both sides, as they equal 0. This will simplify stuff.
      [1] x^3 - y = 0, [2] y^3 - x = 0
      Let's try solving [1] for y:
      -> x^3 - y = 0 x^3 = y
      Well that was easy, wasn't it? Now we substitute for 'y' in equation [2] with the new value.
      [2] (x^3)^3 - x = 0 x^9 - x = 0 < [Factor] > x(x^8 - 1) = 0
      Now to solve this, we have 2 solutions:
      (1) x = 0, (2) x^8 - 1 = 0
      Since the exponent on 'x' in (2) is even, both x = 1 and x = -1 are solutions.
      Now finally to get their respective 'y', just plug it back into our original substitution.
      (1) x = 0, y = 0^3 = 0
      (2) x = 1, y = 1^3 = 1 OR x = -1, y = (-1)^3 = -1
      So our points of interest become: (0, 0), (1, 1), (-1, -1), as they are the only ones which satisfy both equations. They are the only possible critical points for the function. To figure out whether they are relative/local extrema, or simply saddle points, we use the double derivative test!

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    @rami8896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

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  • @amratefmohamed240
    @amratefmohamed240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:07
    Why did we say this point is local min , and the rule says if the second derivative is negative , it will be local max ?
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    • @zeitgeistsandmicrocosms
      @zeitgeistsandmicrocosms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Caught that as well, I assume it was a blunder

    • @imaivie
      @imaivie ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah same, i changed my notes and then realized oh wait no... he is wrong

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      @knanzeynalov7133 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @jessblair2834
    @jessblair2834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    hey friend, love your work always and forever but please check your solution to the first question. Should be local max.

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  • @calmz2343
    @calmz2343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Could you do a video on sketching double and triple integrals?

  • @jayroldasuncion9236
    @jayroldasuncion9236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @The Organic Chemistry Tutor, I think the example number 1, the point is a local maximum.

  • @AZ-pn4sy
    @AZ-pn4sy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the first math should be local maximum ,thnx,great video,huge fan,just doing my work,so that others can follow through

  • @_lilpopsmoke3144
    @_lilpopsmoke3144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Local min & max for multivariable functions

  • @ammarsohail633
    @ammarsohail633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great and helpful video. Thanks. Keep the good work up.

  • @Itszeehoney
    @Itszeehoney ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are 00 11 -1-1 points of interest? Are they given or is it just what you use when dealing with a cubic equation?

    • @Jarawain_Kharpran
      @Jarawain_Kharpran ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We set f(x) = 0 and f(y) = 0, then we take out the two values that gives us f(x) = 0 and f(y) = 0 then use them as Points for D

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  • @imranahmed-mt8wg
    @imranahmed-mt8wg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what is D????

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    @josephhenry1203 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @maxamedmaxamuud7459 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @elnar7752
    @elnar7752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    İn my opinion you are wrong in first example. Because there are should local max(Atəşə salam)

  • @yomnaalzohari3183
    @yomnaalzohari3183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what if d is greater than 0 but fxx is zero ? as in (0,0)

  • @samerghanem599
    @samerghanem599 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, can anyone please post a link on how to factor multivariable functions as the one used in the video in form of binomials e.g. (x-y)(x+1)(x-1)

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    @lazmerejesmin309 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @reamabdulsalam524
    @reamabdulsalam524 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello your first question you have made a mistake in determining the point (2,2) you said local minima and according to your notice at the beginning of the video it was local maxima as D was positive and fxx was negative so please correct

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  • @henghapchea735
    @henghapchea735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how come the first question had points of interest but the second question had points of interest? Are the points of interest a given or a general implication or something?

  • @malikwaleed1591
    @malikwaleed1591 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respected sir in the begining of vedio you said if D>0and and f

    • @ntandomasango3563
      @ntandomasango3563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it a mistake the correct answer is local maximum.

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  • @diegoamores9295
    @diegoamores9295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    point 2,2 is a LOCAL MAX.

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  • @syedananta9769
    @syedananta9769 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i didnt understand the point of interest, can anyone explain please?

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    @mohammedabdlkider1286 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks ❤

  • @Pzdrs
    @Pzdrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:05 i could do x=2 y=8 and the equation would be true whats up with that?

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    @byeol2412 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @guacamolegalaxy8705
    @guacamolegalaxy8705 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    note to self:
    correction in first qn: local maxima

  • @shfjjsnndjd1871
    @shfjjsnndjd1871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is calculus 3? What? I just took an exam for it for calculus 1.

    • @juanduarte200
      @juanduarte200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shfjj Snndjd , you learn first derivative test and second derivative test on calculus one. The difference now is you have a multi variable function, since you learn partial derivatives on calculus 2.

  • @SuperDeadparrot
    @SuperDeadparrot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why don't you just refer to D as the hessian, the determinant if the Hessian matrix? Also, if you use eigenvalues of the Hessian, two positive eigenvalues suggest a minimum, two negative give a maximum, and two mixed signs give a saddle point.

  • @olivermolloy1054
    @olivermolloy1054 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how did he get those point of interests for the second question. Did he just randomly choose them?

    • @savellakursh8816
      @savellakursh8816 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      www.google.com/gasearch?q=find%20all%20points%20where%20the%20function%20has%20any%20relative%20extrema.%20identify%20any%20saddle%20points%20x%5E3-12xy%2B8y%5E3&tbm=&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:fbcfc846,vid:UID893EosM8,st:0

    • @savellakursh8816
      @savellakursh8816 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He breaks it down in this video

  • @vortexlunaa5492
    @vortexlunaa5492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if you have variables in your D value

  • @sadiaijaz1674
    @sadiaijaz1674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you find fxy????

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    @akashsamanta421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @harrytaylor4360
    @harrytaylor4360 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the proper name for 'D'? I don't know how else to search for it

    • @sonny1524
      @sonny1524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      late but D stands for discriminant

  • @raphaelbanda4288
    @raphaelbanda4288 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if d=0

  • @symen2176
    @symen2176 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if D=0??

    • @top_retro050
      @top_retro050 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If D=0, then no conclusion can be drawn

  • @пакстас-у8х
    @пакстас-у8х 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why fxy is 0? Isn't fxy= -6×(-4)?

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  • @rolandbanda5042
    @rolandbanda5042 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what fxx is 0?

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      @cuneiformed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      roland Banda The test is considered inconclusive I think

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    @sitinurhikmahaina1917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to calculate fxy?? Why equals to 0??

    • @nostestwu8689
      @nostestwu8689 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      there is no variable that contains xy. If you derive f(x,y) in respect to x, all the y is considered as a constant. Then you derive in respect to y again, all the x are gone, which is 0

    • @carlosteveth3689
      @carlosteveth3689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @aldoileanumeliber
    @aldoileanumeliber ปีที่แล้ว

    it shows you have no teaching training... you skip over some details that if you don't know you lose track of the whole thing

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    @BC-2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @mrtom-a-hawk6732
    @mrtom-a-hawk6732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    How do you find the points of interest though? When your partials have both x and y in them, I mean

  • @johnathantran1101
    @johnathantran1101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    how did he find those three points at the last problem (14:34) (0,0) (1,1)(-1,1) . I know that he said plug in 0 ,1,-1 but I'm not sure why he did that.And where did he get those values to plug in

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    @memorynkhoma7964 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    on the second question, how did you determine that those were the points of interest?

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    • @khiziiikhan
      @khiziiikhan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You first solve the two first partial derivative equations then you will find critical points from there

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    You made a mistake fxx0 it's not local min but local max

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    @imanichristian523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    im not gonna lie, math been having me fight for my life in the arena for the last couple weeks. thank u so much for this video. gonna secure atleast B because of your help. u a real one.

  • @DefiantPlayz
    @DefiantPlayz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love you man. You saved me before my exams in college and now I am in University and I am still learning from you. #BestTutorinTown

  • @abiademogboyinola2585
    @abiademogboyinola2585 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pls how do you get the numbers you plug in as 2 for the first question?

  • @astartesfanboy5294
    @astartesfanboy5294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    literally more useful then my calc III professor

  • @marianamontoya9450
    @marianamontoya9450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    why did you choose the points (0,0) (1,1) and (-1,-1) for the second problem?

  • @faizanulhaq1944
    @faizanulhaq1944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How did he decide the point of interest as (0,0) & (1,1) in Q2?

    • @martiananomaly
      @martiananomaly ปีที่แล้ว +2

      those were all the (x,y) pairs for which the equation was equal to 0 i.e fx = 0, fy = 0

  • @Anna-qp1fi
    @Anna-qp1fi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy has been carrying my education for the last 3 years

  • @melikipkoech9139
    @melikipkoech9139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you confused on the example - when D>0 and f(xx)

  • @aanchalsharma8481
    @aanchalsharma8481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shouldn't it be local max ?

  • @MohamedSaad8550
    @MohamedSaad8550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the point (2 , 2) is local max not min!!

  • @georgesadler7830
    @georgesadler7830 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Professor Organic Chemistry Tutor, this is another fantastic video/lecture on Local Extrema, Critical and Saddle Points in Calculus Three/Multivariable Calculus. The problems associated with this topic are messy/problematic from start to finish. Once again, thanks to the great viewers for finding and correcting the error at the 6:04-minute mark in the video.

  • @1966lavc
    @1966lavc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there is a mistake, we have local max , not min

  • @TheLifeOfMarcus
    @TheLifeOfMarcus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IDK who you are but I hope your beautiful TH-cam videos are letting you live life on a yacht somewhere in the Caribbean. You are amazing bro. I'm going to university where I get hella confused, and come home to watch your videos which are AMAZING and help me understand the content more. Nothing but love bro!!!

  • @nemnem66
    @nemnem66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    scrolling through the comment box saved my 2 minutes of searching inside the textbook for the mistake. :P

  • @ryanchen9010
    @ryanchen9010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you make a video about you

  • @hqppyfeet7513
    @hqppyfeet7513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had some fun trying to graph this multivariable function from 7:05 and got this on Geogebra: 'imgur a 48VnSO7' (youtube comments aren't so nice with links, put a 'forward slash' between the 'com' and 'a' and the value. Remember that 'com' goes after imgur.
    I noticed that the local minimum points reach '8', as calculated for both f(1,1) and f(-1, -1), but how come the graph intersects the z-axis at '12' instead of the '-64' we calculated through f(0, 0)?

  • @riki7517
    @riki7517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What happens when fxx equals zero?

    • @tera6ite792
      @tera6ite792 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's inconclusive 💀

  • @Meshari-aY
    @Meshari-aY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @abhayhere15
    @abhayhere15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @mamatalama5713
    @mamatalama5713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you please make video for Cal3 Final review too????? Thank you!!!!

  • @TheFireBrozTFB
    @TheFireBrozTFB 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first problem in which you derived a critical pt of (2,2) represents a local max, not min.
    Anyway cheers!