I'm a bit dissapointed that I didnt get my hands on it any sooner. I still need to get a copy and hopefully by the time I do it hasnt gotten silly expensive.
Good list. To me, 13 Sentinels and Odin Sphere Leifthrasir are interchangeable at first place depending on what mood you're in and ranking Muramasa at anything lower than a 3 is a hard sell for me.
Even though it's Atlus & technically not Vanillaware (but LEAD to them), I like to connect Princess Crown to them, as it influenced Kamitani's career, leading to the founding of VW, & Princess Crown's spiritual successor, Dragon's Crown. Good list, by the by. Great to see you 2 working together.
Yooooo, I think Radical and Landon should make more vids together. Their knowledge of the game shines through and just complements each other. If you guys make more collaborated gaming vids, that's an instant click from me.
Odin Sphere and Muramasa are my top favorites from Vanillaware, but I love the others too that I played so far (GrimGrimoire and Dragon's Crown). I haven't yet gotten my hands on a copy of 13 Sentinels, but it's on the wishlist!
I like these cooperative videos. You get the perspective of multiple JRPG fans. They bring out ideas and thoughts about the games that just one of them might not have expressed by themselves if that makes sense.
My only problem with Odin sphere leifthasir is there is not reason to start a new game after you beat it. You can see all cinemas anytime,can beat the bosses anytime,etc. It's one of my favorite games ever!
13 sentinels is the type of game that checks all the boxes what does not appeal to me yet it still manage to be what I consider a masterpiece and a GOAT material Kinda shows how passionate these developers are and that even if the game does not appeal to you it can still be a Top tier game if it’s executed properly
Love the banter between you both but Dragon's Crown is in our top 3 but hey that is what makes these top 5 top 10 lists so fun is the agreements the disagreements and the discussions :). Thanks Erick and Reggie
Ahhhh yeah. Reggie MY MAN! Also, dope ass video. I'm really like ur channel because I'm learning about RPGs. I want to try one for the PS4 now that I got time to play. Your channel is just Knowledge up the ass. I love it.
I'm playing 13 Sentinels now, I picked it up when it was on-sale in the PS4 store. Loving every minute of it and every chapter opens more and more details and clues... crazy!
Indeed a great Vanillaware games tier list! But honestly, Muramasa rebirth, including the dlc's, is probably my favorite vw game, even one of my top five life time games. Gorgeous gameplay and great music. Odin Sphere became the masterpiece it is now until the leifthrasir release. I played Grand Knights History and what a great RPG, it sure can have a spot on the top 5 vw games
Dragon's Crown is my favorite. I love the setting and style - I understand why the character designs are controversial but you have to admit it makes the game memorable. I agree that the screen can get a bit messy at times and the gameplay loop can get a bit repetitive, but I haven't loved a fantasy setting as much since Valkyrie Profile. I'd love to see a Dragon Crown sequel with more classes, outfits and variety in dungeons
PSA: Gameplay-wise, Dragon's Crown is the best and possibly the best Beat 'em Up ever made. Story-wise, Odin Sphere and 13 Sentinels are both excellent although completely different. Challenge-wise, Muramasa is very satisfying. There's also an english translation of the excellent PSP RPG Grand Knights History out there that I recommend Vanillaware fans to check out.
Out of the ones I've completed, I'd say 1.) Oboro Muramasa, because I think Kamitani's style works best with that very traditional Japanese style, and the animations for combat just look too damn good. I didn't have all that much of an issue with the story or length, because I was just too captured by anything else. It's one of my favorite games of all time. 2.) 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, my 2020 GOTY for putting out one of the most ambitious storylines in a video game, only matched by the Root Double visual novel and maybe Zero Escape. I loved the depth of the gameplay, despite taking some time to really get into after the tutorial, but I was all in on the sci-fi storyline from beginning to end. 3.) GrimGrimoire, despite the story not being as ambitious as 13 Sentinels, I actually kind of like it more. Lillet Blan is one of the best protagonists in a game for how much she's gone through and how much she's persevered, despite being so young. The gameplay is very dated for the time, but honestly worth checking out. You can actually play it as a PS2 classic on the PS3, if you still have one, but it could really do with some QoL improvements on a current gen system. I haven't completed Dragon's Crown yet because, to be honest, I find it hard to really get into. Especially since I'm not a co-op player in general. Still, looks beautifully exaggerated, and I'm all for it. Odin's Sphere is kinda tricky for me. When I originally played it, it was on the PS2 as a classic, similar to GrimGrimiore, and I got bored quickly due to the gameplay. Then I played the PS4 version, and the updates really helped me get engrossed into it far more. I just haven't had the time to actually complete it, but I want to.
There's this channel called UnPlayedAThing that played the game and summerized the plot the best he could. It wasn't a perfect translation but I think it's the best we got.
My favorite is the one that wasn't released in the west (grand knight history). The only others I've played was odin sphere and muramasa, absolutely loved, but agree that it's too short.
for me it's GrimGrimoire, Muramasa, Grand Knights, 13 Sentinels, Odin's Sphere, and then Dragon's Crown on top. Dragon's Crown has almost unlimited play value, and is still and absolute blast online some 7 years later.
While Dragon's Crown is pretty light on narrative, I loved the way the world and story were presented. For me it scratches that D&D type fantasy itch better than anything else.
I wholeheartedly agree with the #1 spot. Odin sphere is my #1 favorite game of all time. I bought a ps vita and played this and persona 4 golden. Totally worth buying the system just for these 2 games.
I got 3 out of the 5 Games. First played Muramasa the Demon Blade on the Wii in 2010, loved it. Then played Dragon's Crown in 2014 on the PS3, LOVED IT that I also got the PS Vita version. I eventually played Odin's Sphere and so happy this was released on the PS3 and also got the PS Vita version so I could restart the game and play it on the road. Considering some of those games also got PS4 releases, you could get most of Vanillaware's classics on one system despite a few games that were limited to 1 console like the PS2 or one game that is Muramasa that only had Wii as a console release and PS Vita release on that handheld system. Though I know I may never get a PS4 or a PS5 due to how SONY is now with their censorship of Anime games, but I was lucky enough to get some of Vanillaware's games on the PS Vita that I know how great this niche Japanese developer is simply because they still stuck with 2D games and only using 3D Gameplay just to make the characters walk towards the camera or away from the camera but still keep the gameplay all 2D side scroll action.
Muramasa is short if you only go for the main story, if you try to complete all the optional boss fights it can probably take 5 hours more. And I'm not even talking about the DLC stories, it takes at least 2 hours to complete each one. It's a masterpiece and it deserves a remaster in 4K because it's certainly the best Vanillaware game in terms of art.
I love Vanillaware games. I remember reading an article where it said the company is 100% artists, and programming is secondary. My favorite is probably Odin Sphere. I have 13 sentinels but haven't played it yet.
Got 13 sentinels day 1 but still haven't finished it, because i found the visual novel type gameplay boring. But i will give it another chance, and i'm looking forward to see Vanillaware's next project. And i definitely agree with number 1, one of my favourite games
When they were talking about Dragon's Crown I was thinking "It's like Vanillaware wanted to make their own version of Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara"... Never would I have thought that it was because Kamitani actually worked on that project for Capcom and wanted to make another game like that one...
My main problem with Odin Sphere (besides the slowdown) was the aspect ratio... the game was beautiful but I was basically always playing from that super basic minimap in the corner cuz you're pretty much in range of the enemies before you can see them on the main screen. I heard that they switched from 4:3 to 16:9 so that probably helped that considerably. Still kind of seems like 21:9 would be better still though.
The story for 13 Sentinels is INCREDIBLE. I wish the gameplay was equally as enthralling. I understand the story reasons why the game is the way it is, but I didn’t find it too fun. Odin Sphere definitely earned its spot. I also really love Dragon’s Crown. I need to play Grim Grimoire!
I don't agree with the length of Muramasa Rebirth, it's 5/6 hours for the MAIN story, but it has planty of Secrets, the weapons that you have to unlock, multiple endings per characters and optional side quest and bosses, you can easily reach 25-30 hours or more, so is not true that it has a short length, the Replay value is great, same thing about Dragon's Crown.
I thoroughly enjoyed 13 Sentinels. It perfectly showcases that you don't need to reinvent the wheel to make a good game. The story is great despite having twists and elements I've seen in many other sci-fi stories. The gameplay is just a refinement of things we've seen before. In the end, you still come away feeling like you just experienced something great. It's a great example of the sum being greater than its parts.
They did kinda reinvent the wheel though lol. 13 controllable characters in a VN + real time tower defense strategy is not exactly common. Obviously, it's not a complete invention, but this combination is a huge experiment that almost flopped until people started advertising by word of mouth.
Only disagreement i have is the position of Grim Grimoire. i would trade it with Muramasa and leave it at last and Muramasa at third. i agree with the issues you mentioned about it but still...to this day Muramasa is the most artistically beautiful game i have ever played. the backgrounds are all breathtaking. the Battlefield, the flower fields, the view from heaven...all those are masterpieces or artistic design. Other than that, fully aggree on the list. 13 Sentinels has a better story but Odin's Sphere wins for overall balance. Liked the gameplay more, the story is also awesome and the universe building is amazing. and the narrative is just as good as 13 Sentinels. Kinda unfair to rank the best and worst Vanillaware games, since the title of worst Vanillaware game still puts it above 99.9% of all the games out there.
I liked odin sphere leifthrasir but I didn't like starting at level 1 so many times. It's just slightly annoying but is canceled out by the different play styles of the characters.
Awesome tag team video you did here guys, but Muramasa is NOT and Action RPG, is a Metroidvania style title with some RPG elements...so you put it the last ranked just because is not an rpg....that makes no sense, for me is the best of Vanillaware, less repetitive and more playable than 13 sentinels or Odin Sphere. And by the way you didn´t mention the blue print of all Vanillaware games: Princess Crown on the Saturn, I know it never came from Japan (someday I hope it does) but it is one of the best from this mastermind game creators
This is such a coincidence I recently just won an eBay bid on Muramasa Rebirth Vita Collectors Edition!! One of my favorite games. Love Muramasa (Vita/Wii) and Odin Sphere (PS4/PS3/Vita) don't like the PS2 port tho, it really chugs on PS2 For me Odin Sphere then Muramasa (haven't played the others because they just didn't grab my attention as much, makes me really happy people are enjoying 13 Sentinels but I'm very selective with real time strategy)
Remake of a remake or should it just get ported? XD I'd be happy either way, though I still can enjoy it on vita also. I also still have my Wii version lol.
Excellent video man, I don't yet play Sentinels but don't seems very good for my taste, the best game to me is Muramasa because the gameplay, and finally Odin Sphere is gets very boring to me after playing with the first 2 characters.
I absolutely agree with Reggie's take on Muramasa. It really should have been on the ps2. Especially the re-release being a beautiful game tied to a tiny screen, its just criminal. I did not like Dragon's Crown AT ALL. Too clunky and fanservicey for me with no good story. I have always been curious about Grim Grimoire because I love witches and female protags, but the battle system turns me off, never liked that kind of game. 13 Sentinels again, looks gorgeous but I just can't play that sort of battle system. I'm very happy for people that like it though! Yes Odin Sphere number 1!! My only gripe is that the gameplay just gets too repetitive. As does Muramasa's. Hearing that the ps4 remake is better in terms of gameplay makes me eager to revisit it.
IMHO, those two should be top list: Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (which improves such much on the original release) might one of the best side scroller around. Enthralling story and good combat mechanics. Dragon's Crown is one of the best Beat Them Up around (D&D: Mystara Chronicles / Golden Axe) and it is unfair to judge such game on the story. In 2021, even Streets Of Rage 4 feels a bit short compared to Dragon's Crown. So I guess Grim Grimoire or 13 Sentinel might be as well among the best games in the category they belong. Now Atlus and Vanillaware, share those gems on PC and other platforms.
I kind of predicted Muramasa would be in last place. I have to agree, the game is so fun but way too short. Completeing it in a single day made me feel Like I did something wrong
13 Sentinels is one of the greatest stories I've ever experienced in my entire life.
I'm a bit dissapointed that I didnt get my hands on it any sooner. I still need to get a copy and hopefully by the time I do it hasnt gotten silly expensive.
@@MiamiSunrise Game stop had it on sale on online for around $40 I ended up picking it up recently.
@@AniShikima thank you, i will check that out :-)
@@MiamiSunrise it's so good.
Good list. To me, 13 Sentinels and Odin Sphere Leifthrasir are interchangeable at first place depending on what mood you're in and ranking Muramasa at anything lower than a 3 is a hard sell for me.
Currently playing 13 Sentinels. The story so far is really good.
Finished the game yesterday. I loved it so much.
Even though it's Atlus & technically not Vanillaware (but LEAD to them), I like to connect Princess Crown to them, as it influenced Kamitani's career, leading to the founding of VW, & Princess Crown's spiritual successor, Dragon's Crown.
Good list, by the by. Great to see you 2 working together.
Reggie and Erick are a perfect duo. For me 13 Sentinels and Odin Sphere are tied for the best vw games.
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im a reg fan after he rated parasite eve 2 highly lol
@@johnr4836 siiii
13 Sentinels was the first vanillaware game I played and honestly I was addicted. I literally could not stop playing it. Loved everything about it.
Yooooo, I think Radical and Landon should make more vids together.
Their knowledge of the game shines through and just complements each other.
If you guys make more collaborated gaming vids, that's an instant click from me.
No one plays Dragon's Crown for the story, they play it for the plot ( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛)
Which plot you're talking about?
*Cuz there are two big plots*
All the plots
@@soldadoryanbr7776 I think you mean plot or backstory
Odin Sphere and Muramasa are my top favorites from Vanillaware, but I love the others too that I played so far (GrimGrimoire and Dragon's Crown). I haven't yet gotten my hands on a copy of 13 Sentinels, but it's on the wishlist!
I like these cooperative videos. You get the perspective of multiple JRPG fans. They bring out ideas and thoughts about the games that just one of them might not have expressed by themselves if that makes sense.
I'm currently playing Odin Sphere on my PS4 and it's really beautiful with it's art-style.
It will never age. Being a sprite-based game will do that.
Just picked up “Odin Sphere Leifthrasir” on sale on PSN last week! Played it originally on PS2 and loved it.
My only problem with Odin sphere leifthasir is there is not reason to start a new game after you beat it.
You can see all cinemas anytime,can beat the bosses anytime,etc.
It's one of my favorite games ever!
Very cool to see these two collab in a video. Great personalities both.
13 sentinels is the type of game that checks all the boxes what does not appeal to me yet it still manage to be what I consider a masterpiece and a GOAT material
Kinda shows how passionate these developers are and that even if the game does not appeal to you it can still be a Top tier game if it’s executed properly
yes they are passionate.... just like kentaro Miura has been Rest in Power King 👑
Love the banter between you both but Dragon's Crown is in our top 3 but hey that is what makes these top 5 top 10 lists so fun is the agreements the disagreements and the discussions :). Thanks Erick and Reggie
Oh snap! Never saw this collab coming. Awesome, love these guys.
Grim Grimoire gave me a better understanding of different magic systems, and its Harry Potter-like story was pretty fun.
how do I get good at it ? any hints tips for beginners?
Ahhhh yeah. Reggie MY MAN! Also, dope ass video. I'm really like ur channel because I'm learning about RPGs. I want to try one for the PS4 now that I got time to play. Your channel is just Knowledge up the ass. I love it.
WOOOAH!! I didnt know I needed this crossover but im so happy it happened
Dragons crown getting the snubbing
I would love That JRPG Show to have Reggie full time. You two are the best!
Only game i haven't gotten to play is Muramasa Erick though i love how the list is turning out Erick buddy!
I'm playing 13 Sentinels now, I picked it up when it was on-sale in the PS4 store. Loving every minute of it and every chapter opens more and more details and clues... crazy!
Well, it's finally happening, the Western release for GrimGrimoire Once More is releasing on April 7, 2023!
Indeed a great Vanillaware games tier list! But honestly, Muramasa rebirth, including the dlc's, is probably my favorite vw game, even one of my top five life time games. Gorgeous gameplay and great music. Odin Sphere became the masterpiece it is now until the leifthrasir release. I played Grand Knights History and what a great RPG, it sure can have a spot on the top 5 vw games
Dragon's Crown is my favorite. I love the setting and style - I understand why the character designs are controversial but you have to admit it makes the game memorable. I agree that the screen can get a bit messy at times and the gameplay loop can get a bit repetitive, but I haven't loved a fantasy setting as much since Valkyrie Profile. I'd love to see a Dragon Crown sequel with more classes, outfits and variety in dungeons
PSA: Gameplay-wise, Dragon's Crown is the best and possibly the best Beat 'em Up ever made. Story-wise, Odin Sphere and 13 Sentinels are both excellent although completely different. Challenge-wise, Muramasa is very satisfying. There's also an english translation of the excellent PSP RPG Grand Knights History out there that I recommend Vanillaware fans to check out.
What?! You made a video with Radical Reggie? That's awesome I'm totally gonna enjoy this vid :-D
13 sentinels just finished on OLED Switch. Marvelous.
Best character build in a game ever.
Out of the ones I've completed, I'd say
1.) Oboro Muramasa, because I think Kamitani's style works best with that very traditional Japanese style, and the animations for combat just look too damn good. I didn't have all that much of an issue with the story or length, because I was just too captured by anything else. It's one of my favorite games of all time.
2.) 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, my 2020 GOTY for putting out one of the most ambitious storylines in a video game, only matched by the Root Double visual novel and maybe Zero Escape. I loved the depth of the gameplay, despite taking some time to really get into after the tutorial, but I was all in on the sci-fi storyline from beginning to end.
3.) GrimGrimoire, despite the story not being as ambitious as 13 Sentinels, I actually kind of like it more. Lillet Blan is one of the best protagonists in a game for how much she's gone through and how much she's persevered, despite being so young. The gameplay is very dated for the time, but honestly worth checking out. You can actually play it as a PS2 classic on the PS3, if you still have one, but it could really do with some QoL improvements on a current gen system.
I haven't completed Dragon's Crown yet because, to be honest, I find it hard to really get into. Especially since I'm not a co-op player in general. Still, looks beautifully exaggerated, and I'm all for it.
Odin's Sphere is kinda tricky for me. When I originally played it, it was on the PS2 as a classic, similar to GrimGrimiore, and I got bored quickly due to the gameplay. Then I played the PS4 version, and the updates really helped me get engrossed into it far more. I just haven't had the time to actually complete it, but I want to.
They also made Princess Crown and I so wish it was released in America and was translated. I've never played but want to
There's this channel called UnPlayedAThing that played the game and summerized the plot the best he could. It wasn't a perfect translation but I think it's the best we got.
I always look forward to it like a child when people appreciate the true art of vanillaware
Played Dragon's Crown so much in 2020. I found ps4 version in a game store, I bought it and I still love it.
My favorite is the one that wasn't released in the west (grand knight history). The only others I've played was odin sphere and muramasa, absolutely loved, but agree that it's too short.
You guys work very well together!
for me it's GrimGrimoire, Muramasa, Grand Knights, 13 Sentinels, Odin's Sphere, and then Dragon's Crown on top.
Dragon's Crown has almost unlimited play value, and is still and absolute blast online some 7 years later.
While Dragon's Crown is pretty light on narrative, I loved the way the world and story were presented. For me it scratches that D&D type fantasy itch better than anything else.
I like the battle system in 13 Sentinels. I wasn't expecting to have fun with it.
This video was great. Ty guys for sharing this list. I love Vanillaware games
I wholeheartedly agree with the #1 spot. Odin sphere is my #1 favorite game of all time. I bought a ps vita and played this and persona 4 golden. Totally worth buying the system just for these 2 games.
dang man let reggie talk more
I really, really want a modern version of Grim Grimoire, so i can play it
Fotunately, it runs very well on an emulator, and it doesn't require a high end PC. (I think it was called PCSX2)
If you have a ps3, you can buy it for $10 on the ps store
@@philkiner4363 You sir are a freakin' Legend!
@@philkiner4363 Ah, not in europe, unfortunately. In the US and japan you can but not in europe
@@dexocube damn, thats a bummer... might just have to emulate
Respectfully man, you should let your guest speak more.
I like all of the Vanillaware games & at least we got some awesome games to talk about plus really sink your teeth into gameplay wise
GrimGrimoire is available on PS3 digitally via PSN as a PS2 classic btw
I too recommend Odin Sphere.
I own all of these games and love them all. I would love for a hd version of Grim Grimoire to be made. Thanks for the video.
OMG! Reggie on Erick channel , Awesome,
te picture behind Reggie is the guy from the channel Gamez of war?
Nuestro orgullo gamer: Erick keep rockin man!!!
Odin’s Sphere is still my only platinum
It was my second, after Ni no kuni.
I loved seeing all the endings and especially the “True” ending. God they need to bring this one over to the Switch.
13 Sentinels is an easy plat.
After the Vita I fully transitioned to the Switch. I’m still fingers crossed 🤞 waiting for Vanillaware to port something.
@@Ya_Mosura Yep it's my 2nd only plat. 1st plat is Criminal Girls....... yes I know.
Grimgrimoire is available on PSN. At least I got it for PS3.
You're correct, it was on sale a few times.
@@personavisceration371 thanks! I only have a PS3 and wasn't sure if it was available on the 4.
I got 3 out of the 5 Games.
First played Muramasa the Demon Blade on the Wii in 2010, loved it.
Then played Dragon's Crown in 2014 on the PS3, LOVED IT that I also got the PS Vita version.
I eventually played Odin's Sphere and so happy this was released on the PS3 and also got the PS Vita version so I could restart the game and play it on the road.
Considering some of those games also got PS4 releases, you could get most of Vanillaware's classics on one system despite a few games that were limited to 1 console like the PS2 or one game that is Muramasa that only had Wii as a console release and PS Vita release on that handheld system.
Though I know I may never get a PS4 or a PS5 due to how SONY is now with their censorship of Anime games, but I was lucky enough to get some of Vanillaware's games on the PS Vita that I know how great this niche Japanese developer is simply because they still stuck with 2D games and only using 3D Gameplay just to make the characters walk towards the camera or away from the camera but still keep the gameplay all 2D side scroll action.
Muramasa is my number one, but I can respect your decisions too, all amazing games
Muramasa is short if you only go for the main story, if you try to complete all the optional boss fights it can probably take 5 hours more. And I'm not even talking about the DLC stories, it takes at least 2 hours to complete each one. It's a masterpiece and it deserves a remaster in 4K because it's certainly the best Vanillaware game in terms of art.
I love Vanillaware games. I remember reading an article where it said the company is 100% artists, and programming is secondary. My favorite is probably Odin Sphere. I have 13 sentinels but haven't played it yet.
Got 13 sentinels day 1 but still haven't finished it, because i found the visual novel type gameplay boring. But i will give it another chance, and i'm looking forward to see Vanillaware's next project.
And i definitely agree with number 1, one of my favourite games
I have tried the first 4 vanillaware games and that is one developer I can't take too....
When they were talking about Dragon's Crown I was thinking "It's like Vanillaware wanted to make their own version of
Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara"... Never would I have thought that it was because Kamitani actually worked on that project for Capcom and wanted to make another game like that one...
You do know that Muramasa Rebirth has A LOT of dlc content with extra characters, right. About 3 or 4 extra characters with extra stories
I'm usually not into strategy games but 13 Sentinels looks dope af. Gonna have to check that out.
My main problem with Odin Sphere (besides the slowdown) was the aspect ratio... the game was beautiful but I was basically always playing from that super basic minimap in the corner cuz you're pretty much in range of the enemies before you can see them on the main screen. I heard that they switched from 4:3 to 16:9 so that probably helped that considerably. Still kind of seems like 21:9 would be better still though.
The story for 13 Sentinels is INCREDIBLE. I wish the gameplay was equally as enthralling. I understand the story reasons why the game is the way it is, but I didn’t find it too fun. Odin Sphere definitely earned its spot. I also really love Dragon’s Crown. I need to play Grim Grimoire!
Radical Reggie with his friend Mickey Rourke
PSA grimgrimoire is available as a ps2 classic on the ps store for ps3! $9.99
Grimgrimoire was awesome! And the art was beautiful! And the story? It was great too!!!
Apparently GrimGrimoire got re-released on the PS3's digital store and carried over to the ps4.
Only thing better than Muramasa on the PS Vita with the OLED screen?
Playing on the PS TV on a full sized OLED TV :)
Odin Sphere and Muramasa Rebirth are my all time faves. Have yet to play 13 Sentinels.
I don't agree with the length of Muramasa Rebirth, it's 5/6 hours for the MAIN story, but it has planty of Secrets, the weapons that you have to unlock, multiple endings per characters and optional side quest and bosses, you can easily reach 25-30 hours or more, so is not true that it has a short length, the Replay value is great, same thing about Dragon's Crown.
Is it just me, or does anyone else air guitar Eric's theme song?
I thoroughly enjoyed 13 Sentinels. It perfectly showcases that you don't need to reinvent the wheel to make a good game. The story is great despite having twists and elements I've seen in many other sci-fi stories. The gameplay is just a refinement of things we've seen before. In the end, you still come away feeling like you just experienced something great. It's a great example of the sum being greater than its parts.
They did kinda reinvent the wheel though lol. 13 controllable characters in a VN + real time tower defense strategy is not exactly common. Obviously, it's not a complete invention, but this combination is a huge experiment that almost flopped until people started advertising by word of mouth.
Only disagreement i have is the position of Grim Grimoire. i would trade it with Muramasa and leave it at last and Muramasa at third. i agree with the issues you mentioned about it but still...to this day Muramasa is the most artistically beautiful game i have ever played. the backgrounds are all breathtaking. the Battlefield, the flower fields, the view from heaven...all those are masterpieces or artistic design. Other than that, fully aggree on the list. 13 Sentinels has a better story but Odin's Sphere wins for overall balance. Liked the gameplay more, the story is also awesome and the universe building is amazing. and the narrative is just as good as 13 Sentinels.
Kinda unfair to rank the best and worst Vanillaware games, since the title of worst Vanillaware game still puts it above 99.9% of all the games out there.
Please more Reggie i love you two together!
Odin sphere is a masterpiece. Own every port ever release.
i was under the impression they delayed 13 sentinels to add in the english dub compared to their initial plan of patching it in
Epic anime crossover here!
Im in love with Odin Sphere
I liked odin sphere leifthrasir but I didn't like starting at level 1 so many times. It's just slightly annoying but is canceled out by the different play styles of the characters.
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir deserves the number 1 spot.
Awesome tag team video you did here guys, but Muramasa is NOT and Action RPG, is a Metroidvania style title with some RPG elements...so you put it the last ranked just because is not an rpg....that makes no sense, for me is the best of Vanillaware, less repetitive and more playable than 13 sentinels or Odin Sphere. And by the way you didn´t mention the blue print of all Vanillaware games: Princess Crown on the Saturn, I know it never came from Japan (someday I hope it does) but it is one of the best from this mastermind game creators
Alright a Dynamic Duo😀
This is such a coincidence I recently just won an eBay bid on Muramasa Rebirth Vita Collectors Edition!! One of my favorite games.
Love Muramasa (Vita/Wii) and Odin Sphere (PS4/PS3/Vita) don't like the PS2 port tho, it really chugs on PS2
For me
Odin Sphere then Muramasa (haven't played the others because they just didn't grab my attention as much, makes me really happy people are enjoying 13 Sentinels but I'm very selective with real time strategy)
Maybe is not the worst but not having a version of muramasa in recent consoles is a damm shame!
Remake of a remake or should it just get ported? XD I'd be happy either way, though I still can enjoy it on vita also. I also still have my Wii version lol.
13 Sentinels I haven’t try it yet, but looks like Story is more than gameplay. Idk if imma have fun with game mechanics
Awesome games I in joy it
What’s the game in the intro right before octopath traveler where someone is attacking a squid boss?
If you play Muramasa Rebirth make sure to pick up the DLC. It is better than the main story. 4 new characters with short campaigns
Excellent video man, I don't yet play Sentinels but don't seems very good for my taste, the best game to me is Muramasa because the gameplay, and finally Odin Sphere is gets very boring to me after playing with the first 2 characters.
Velvet! 💜💜💜 Yeah I agree, she's definitely the sexiest girl in Odin Sphere
Sure would like Leithransir ported to Steam.
I absolutely agree with Reggie's take on Muramasa. It really should have been on the ps2. Especially the re-release being a beautiful game tied to a tiny screen, its just criminal.
I did not like Dragon's Crown AT ALL. Too clunky and fanservicey for me with no good story.
I have always been curious about Grim Grimoire because I love witches and female protags, but the battle system turns me off, never liked that kind of game.
13 Sentinels again, looks gorgeous but I just can't play that sort of battle system. I'm very happy for people that like it though!
Yes Odin Sphere number 1!! My only gripe is that the gameplay just gets too repetitive. As does Muramasa's. Hearing that the ps4 remake is better in terms of gameplay makes me eager to revisit it.
I hope atlus ports vanilla ware games to more consoles
Gracias x Estos videazos bro vivan los jrpg
Nice hat, space cowboy.
IMHO, those two should be top list:
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (which improves such much on the original release) might one of the best side scroller around. Enthralling story and good combat mechanics.
Dragon's Crown is one of the best Beat Them Up around (D&D: Mystara Chronicles / Golden Axe) and it is unfair to judge such game on the story. In 2021, even Streets Of Rage 4 feels a bit short compared to Dragon's Crown.
So I guess Grim Grimoire or 13 Sentinel might be as well among the best games in the category they belong.
Now Atlus and Vanillaware, share those gems on PC and other platforms.
Biggest anime crossover!
for play value Dragon Crown >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rest of Vanilla Ware games.
For story 13 Sentinels>>>>>>>Odin Sphere>>>>>>Grim Grimoire>>>>>>Muramasa
Amazing
I kind of predicted Muramasa would be in last place. I have to agree, the game is so fun but way too short. Completeing it in a single day made me feel Like I did something wrong
What is the game in the intro at 00:21?
Grimgrimore can be downloaded on ps3. At least the last time I checked the ps store it was