My daughter's deadbeat dad called me and told me he was going to get her the Teddy Ruxpin she so badly wanted for Christmas. I said, "Are you sure?" Because this bear was hard to get, and they were selling out of it everywhere. A week before Christmas and I had still not heard from him. I was calling and calling. Nothing. The night before Christmas Eve, he calls. "I'm so sorry!" He says. Blah, blah blah was all I heard. I hung up on him. We went out and scoured towns! Finally, after driving all of the way to Lubbock TX from Amarillo TX, we found it! Over the years, I had gotten used to putting his name on all of her birthday cards because I didn't want her to know what a rotten piece of crap he was. I gave her the bear in his name. Years later, she was looking through all of her memorabilia. She came in and said, "Mom, thank you." I said, "For what?" She said, "For making me think he was a good person all of those years." I asked her how she knew? She said, "I'd know your handwriting anywhere." ❤
When my daughter was about 4, she said “if I buy daddy a Christmas present do you think he’ll get me one?” Nothing has broke me like that did! I started buying her some gifts from him and mailed them to her (at our house). It was worth the look in her eyes. She’s 24 now and has no idea. I HATED him so much but I loved her more.
Oh, tell her when she has her first. You were always there. 😢❤ made me tear up. My granny would buy cool shells and go shell hunting with me. Throwing the bought shells when I wasn't looking letting me "find" them. She was so sneaky with it. Then she told me the secret when I had kids. If magic isn't happening on its own momma will make magic happen. ❤🎉
That entitlement of the mom using her son as a husband, is gross. I can only imagine what kind of mother in law she will be when her son marries, let alone grandma. She literally threw the things a parent does for a child into the son’s face to try to manipulate him. Smh
This second story is definitely my paternal grandmother, and yet, my Grandpa is still alive and ON THIS EARTH. She has a whole ass husband and still sees my dad in that inappropriate manner. My dad and mom got married in ‘81 and are still together and my grandmother still isn’t happy they’re married. You married your HUSBAND, not your son, lady!! Get over it!!
Yeah there are reels about this creepy shit where thr mom raises the son to be the husband she always wanted and then hating any women in their life cuz they thunkntheir son is their husband. It's super creepy and nasty
My mama claimed she "raised" me and so when my biological father passed leaving me an inheritance that meant that I should pay her the back child support he owed her out of MY inheritance..... but the reality is that she GAVE ME TO ANOTHER FAMILY when I was 14 because she could not stand me. She effing hated me and the family that took me in showed me what real parents do and what real parental love was like.
That is awful! I am so sorry! The woman who birthed me had her parents paid for everything I did not live with from age 10 on but expected me to give her my tax refunds when I started working at 15 well into my adulthood. Then when my father passed, I made the mistake of seeing her the next day and all she did is complain about how much she hated him. They had been divorced for almost 30 years and with her current husband 20+ years at this point.
Awe, I’m so sorry babes. That’s heart breaking. But my mom adopted 13 kids off the street in the same way. So I’m so glad you have a real family and a real example of love and how family comes together when life gets harder. Not fall apart. You don’t owe her SHITUH
I am glad you got to experience real love from your family (like your mom is related to you but I don't see people like that as deserving of being a part of a family). I hope she didn't see a dime from your inheritence! You deserved the love and not that bs your mom put you through 💖
As a mother of two grown men, the son doesn't owe momma a dime. Last I checked, no one asked to be born. If she wants payback for raising him, that's a pretty low bar, it's required by law. As she said, she doesn't want a husssssband, no she doesn't, she wants is a sugar daddy. Narcissist is a perfect description.
So true! My parents were like that too, and I thought, your “payback” for raising me is not spending time in jail for child neglect. That’s your prize. I find these older feminist women insufferable. No wonder they’re single at that age. If they don’t want a husband, they also don’t deserve what a husband has to offer.
@@Blablabla44475I agree with most of what you say, but being a feminist has nothing to do with it. I'm a feminist myself and, If anything, feminists don't believe in being dependent on a man, or anyone, for that matter. In any case, yes, the prize are the children themselves, or at least they should be.
the number of times ive told my mother, when god was handing out parents, and all the kids lined up and he said, "ok, i got a single teenage alcoholic mother with severe trauma from watching her dad beat her mom her whole life and will blame you for literally every shitty thing that happens to her after your birth, who wants her?" i was in the bathroom and came out doing a little happy dance from peeing and god saw my hand in the air. trust and believe mom, if i had seen what you would blame me for and put me through, id have stayed on the shitter. she always rolls her eyes and says, it doesnt work that way holly.. i reply "OH YOU KNOW!! i thought thats how you thought things worked because you act as if i picked this and have been actively ruining YOUR life since i crawled out of you" she doesnt like it when i remind her, i know what bullshit shes trying to pull on me
Someone needs to send her a copy of the song "No Charge", which speaks of a slightly different situation, but would be appropriate for her and her son.
If he’s paying $2200 for child support for one kid he’s has to be making a decent amount per month. He should be able to afford even a small gift for his child
@@natalieford3238 no they said he's paying 2200$ but daycare for one month costs 2000$. That's why they say all that's left is 200$ for all the rest of monthly expenses.
A 29 year old that can buy a house, Mercedes and pay off all her credit cards is not the norm. That lady will only want, want, want from him. It’ll never stop until he changes his behavior. Shame on that lady.
The mom needs therapy. Children do NOT owe parents anything. The parents decided to create the kid, the kid didn’t get a choice. If she wants something, her grown ass can go get it.
LOLZ I apparently owe my parents everything because they nearly went broke adopting me. Nobody owes me shit for being abandoned at the hospital for a week while the paperwork went through. I bonded with hospitals instead of my adoptive mom.
@@lindsayschuster302my adoptive dad was awesome. Gruff but the biggest teddy bear of a man who did whatever he could to help others who were struggling and had a sense of duty to help the community that helped him when he was growing up. Mom, well, I was never quite as good as their bio kids (even though I’m objectively better on every measure). Since she couldn’t rag on me about her labor, she’d talk about how much I cost them, including my glasses (nearsighted and asked for glasses so I could see the board at school and do my work) and braces (not vanity; had two literal rows of teeth). She even tried telling me, on my father’s literal deathbed, that he never wanted me, when he and I road-tripped and I know for a fact he wanted more kids. He used to play Santa for free for crying out loud and I was one of his favorite people in the world. Some people just have to many of their own issues to be good parents.
@@lindsayschuster302 my parents barely had enough to go shopping for themselves cause they had tons of medical bills due to a severe birth defect i had that disabled me and never asked me once to help them with anything They're awesome
I don’t think that’s entirely true - now I’m grown if my mum needed help I would 100% give after everything she did over the years. It’s not ok for them to demand it, but their sacrifice and time/love/money over the years does mean something. At least to me.
I watched that mother's face when he said he wanted to get married and have children. Her despair and covering her face told me all I needed to know about this pathetic and entitled mother.
Yup, the way she was looking up at the ceiling blinking up her eyes, I know that look all to well. The "I deserve this from my child cause I gave birth to them and how dare they not give their life up to me so that I wouldn't have to do lift a finger again"
Yeah, it was so obvious that this is the last thing mommy wants. My grandmother on my father's side is also a narcissist. And she's really old now and so confused why no one likes her.
My mom and dad separated when she was pregnant.. I was lucky my dad was a good man and my mom is wonderful too.. Till this day my mom always tells me not to spend too much on her.. She wants me to save my money.. I'm 40 years old lol.. But I'm lucky enough to have had an amazing father and mother and even an amazing step father.. And they all were really good friends with one another so I'm definitely blessed I must say
It sucks to see adult kids (well, any kids) so deeply psychologically manipulated that it doesn’t even occur to them that they can leave. The guilt just has them in a chokehold and they feel like they have to convince their parents first. Just leave. Deal with the guilt later.
Morally he’s required to buy his child gifts…Christmas, Birthday, Graduation etc…If he as the Father doesn’t believe thats true, then he has a broken moral compass and absolutely zero character.
Let's make Women pay $2200 in child support and watch how they tell Men they are paying enough. Ya'll just want to bleed Men dry while spending most if not all the money on yourselves
@TheSnakehunter the child support is literally what he would have been spending if they had stayed together. It's based off the quality of life the child could have had and does not reflect birthdays or holidays. It's literally for the care of your child (daycare, utilities, food, etc.) The judge decides child support based off how much the parents make. Not the mom. Mom can't be a gold digger if she's not even the one setting how much child support the dad is supposed to pay.
@@TheSnakehunterHey little clueless stranger let me explain some stuff to ya 1. Being a father doesn't stop at child support payments. A parent is required to also emotionally, morally and psychologically support their child (and money has nothing to do with this because there are some gestures and actions that can't be replaced by a check) 2. She wasn't asking for more money, she was asking for a gift from father to son. She insisted for him to pick out the gift and pay for it. It could've been a football for 5$ or something cheap but at least *from Dad*. It's so crucial for the child to feel dad's presence and attention even if they never see eachother cos at least he has something that reminds him of dad. 3. She's so agitated and loud about this, because imagine having your kid's eyes well up with tears on Christmas day or during the holidays because they didn't even hear from their dad let alone get a gift from him. That's feeling unloved and abandoned on a day that should be about the joy of spending time with family and loved ones. As a mother you feel absolutely defeated and powerless about the whole situation because you have no way of making it better. The one who can and should be making it better is not there, so she's the one left with fixing shit she didn't break y'know? 4. Child support is strictly calculated by the judge and if you're curious it's (in this case) 17% of the combined parental income. 2200$ is quite some money which means they both have a very decent income. And if 2200$ still seems a lot to you imma ask you this: did you want to join sports clubs as a child? Play chess? Dance? Who bought your school supplies? Did you play an instrument? Did you beg your parents for a puppy or a videogame? Who gave you lunch money? Did you get to go on random ice cream or McDonald's trips? Disneyland? Water parks? Was your fondest wish a brand new bike or skateboard at one point? All of those things cost MONEY. Money both parents are obligated to grant you for your development until adulthood. Hopefully I gave you at least some insight on the matter because what you're saying is bonkers
Lesson to be learned regarding the inmate who gave a serial killer the contact number of a woman…NEVER, EVER, under any circumstance in life, and even just ordinary people, give contact information to someone else without getting their consent first. Basic common sense.
My old man gave away my phone number to a woman in his AA meetings...without telling me about it until he'd done so. His reasoning? "Well, you said you like women...and she likes women too! You'll get along great!" On one hand, thank you for thinking of my happiness. On the other hand, DAD NO! 😅
Not to mention, he may use the contact info as currency inside the prison. My dad knows someone who spent time in a high security prison and he said that happens all the time.
"This is why we help poor people". Help? She literally garnished the girl's wages for the advance. It's not nothing, but it's also not generous or anything to be proud of.
The most difficult debt to pay is gratitude. It becomes a struggle to ask payment for what these people-who-once-helped-you-during-a-great-crisis owed you. You become the villain and get called an ingrate.
That mom as out of her mind! As a parent of two adult children, being a good parent whose kids turn out good is the rewards. Stop thinking your kids owe you!!!!
The last video, the dad literally needed to spend MAYBE $20 to bring his son joy and he wouldnt even do that. Shows what kind of father he is. I wish all the best to the woman and her son!!
And he was recording her to post on social media for what??? That’s their private business, not the fucking internet. I hate this culture of sharing EVERYTHING to social media. He just made himself look like a fool, though.
@@lilscenechick1995Yeah that bit got me too. It's like he thought he was doing something there, making her look greedy and unreasonable rather than just making himself look like a broke, mama whipped loser of a dad.
They both suck. Should he get his kid a gift? Absolutely. Is she being a dick when she trivializes the child support he is paying? Absolutely. He is paying $26,400 in child support per year. That is objectively a LOT of money (about a third of the US median household income). Conceivably part of the explanation why he is living with his mother and feels he can't afford to spend more money on his child. Calling it "broke boy money" and making fun of him for living with his mom, is gross. They both suck. Hard.
My dad didn’t pay child support for the first 9 years of my life. Only started after my mom took him to court. Now 20 years later he acts like he is such a good father and that he has always been there for me but I have never forgotten.
my dad never paid a dime... i didnt meet him until i was 33, on my behest. (my husbands father had passed and he and i decded i should meet mine since he was alive, and we did and it was weird) but. about a month after i met him, he asked to move in with us. we said ok as we had an extra room and he was struggling at the time. his wife and parrot soon followed, which was cool, i got to meet the woman who stole him from the woman who "stole him" from my mom (which btw never happened, they are both 17 and stupid and in the 70s) while he was living with me, i learned alot about myself, my mother, why things happened the way they did. it was healing. BUT THEN.... my husband and i got into a fight over something, and my father butted in using a dad voice on me. i spun around so fast and pushed my finger into his forehead and said, "dont you DARE use that voice with me... it has NO power here, you sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, this is MY house and you are a GUEST. i lived without you for over 30 years and dont thin for ONE second that i need yo in my life. you want to be a part, you follow MY LEAD. dont you ever try to use parental authority over me buddy, as far as you are concerned, IM YOUR MOTHER IN THIS HOUSE," his wife poked her head around the hall wall and said, robert, that woman is not kidding and she 100 percent right, get your ass to your room" he slinked away and about an hour later he came and apologized and said, "one thing ill never fault your mother for, she raised a warrior. im so proud to see who you are and sad to know i had nothing to do with it" i said, "you had everything to do with it, ive spent my whole life fighting for the right to be loved without feeling guilty and thats because of you, take it how you will. but this is all you" we dont talk much anymore, after they moved away, i lost contact and i wonder alot if hes ok EDIT: after all the heartache and pain, why do we still hope they will just love us?
Same. Minus the eventual court order. I was a child in the 70's before support enforcement. He's almost 90 now. Bitches that other kids do things for their parents. If I start feeling guilty, I just remember what he said when he found out I was molested at age 4 by my step grandfather... "it wasn't that bad". Those experiences destroyed my childhood, altered the outcome of my entire future and destroyed my relationship with my entire family. But I guess he thought it wasn't that bad, to molest his 4 year old daughter. Unfortunately, some parents suck.
My father is a narcissist and has never once paid child support because my mom knew better than to ask him for it, as he'd probably claim I'm not his kid just to avoid paying. Now that I'm an adult, he thinks he's entitled to my time and my respect when he doesn't give me the same respect. Respect is earned, even with family.
The mother and son. Woah. My dad did that to me growing up too. I went to Japan as part of a sister city organization thing, and had to interview and fund raise for it. According to him, it was all his doing that I went. Not my hard work. And he never let me forget it, either. Even though, years later, the man running the whole organization basically told me that he hated my father and only accepted my application because of my attitude. Just...wow. I can't with this mother.
all of these stories are amazing ahahha the one with the dad not wanting to get a gift for his son is so sad tho....does he think he has to spend a ton of money on a gift??? you could get the kid a $10-20 toy and he'd be so happy to get something from his dad. Even something from the dollar store he would be like wow thanks dad!
The last story, no he's not legally obligated to buy his son Christmas gifts but most parents are excited to get their kids gifts, especially at Christmas. He's a just a sour, bad human.
You can't make people do the right thing....if it's not in him to want a relationship with his son, then cut him loose, be glad you are getting child support and enjoy raising your son knowing you both dodged a f-ing bullet.
Honestly those kids need to be told that their dad did not, and what he used the money for instead. Stop sheltering your kkds from how bad the other parent is! Stop It People! They will ruin your child's life and they won't know it until later, when tik tok inevitably throws it into their face.
The sad part is, the baby daddy wasn’t just recording, he had the audacity to post it and think he was so in the right, others would support him and give him a standing ovation.
It's because they're angry that they have to pay child support. In their mind they contribute already more than the mother does. They make this a principle about the money. It's silly, because it's just two occasions per year, birthday and Christmas. By not getting a gift, even a small symbolic one, the child feels rejected by Daddy.
his logic "i paid child support" like??? and?! that's like if a dad who lived w his kids said "no xmas this year, i bought y'all groceries, clothes and paid gas for cars you ride in" which is already so sad but like... that's actually thousands of dollars at least - this guy is acting like 2k is anywhere close to the real investment of a parent. he probably wishes his baby momma & kid would just vanish off the face of the earth. and she is a beautiful caring mom who just wants her son to get a gift from his dad. she and her son deserve way better.... haha I'm pissed too
He makes a LOT to pay that amount. My dad made like 1200 bucks a week after taxes and his maximum was 88 bucks a week. He could not be ordered to pay more, because that was the maximum percentage allowed by law. Note he never mentions his pay, or that the 2200 Is a big chunk of his wages, because it isn't. He knows 2200 sounds big to most people, so he's letting some number do the walking to buy him sympathy. If he said "THAT'S LIKE TEN PERCENT OF MY EARNINGS!" Then everyone would automatically know that he's a miser that is so bitter he has to pay ANYTHING at all, that he's taking it out on the kid by not being a parent in any other way. Parenting is SO much more than financial, and I'm sick to death of parents thinking they can effectively buy a subscription and never have to do anything else for the child THEY decided to have. @@MaidenHelll
@@MaidenHelllchild support is based on about 15%-20% of income depending on what state they’re in. It may be 75% of YOUR income but it’s only about 15% of his. He is definitely a deadbeat and just doing what court orders him. He doesn’t care about his son at all. His support pays mainly for daycare alone so mom is definitely putting in way more that 2200 a month.
He blatantly lied saying he couldn’t afford a gift, but was choosing to go buy an outfit for a party instead. He’s a piece of garbage. I do understand that having to pay child support can financially drain a person, but mans made a choice. All he cared about was himself. PRIORITIES PEOPLE.
I agree. He did the bear minimum and then acts like he should get a pat on the back. The default parent or main parent does that and so much more to make sure their child gets everything they need. Even if you don’t have money you have ways to make your child happy he just seems like he don’t care at all
18:33 Child support = Given to the parent who is currently responsible for the child in the eyes of the law, that money that would be spent on your child if you were an active participant in their everyday life (i.e. food, hygiene products, clothes that are needed, helping to pay for the roof over their head, etc.) Christmas gifts = Specific items you yourself picked out to make your child feel special, loved, and happy. Even if they're just Spiderman or Barbie PJs.
The worst people in my life are of my own blood. The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. I built my own family who love me and accept me for who I am. I do not get that from people to whom I am related by blood. It's been my experience people related by blood hurt you the most.
Just bc he pays child support does not mean he shouldn't buy his kid a Christmas gift. That is crazy. He is doing the bare minimum. Yes, he pays a lot, but from what she says, she has the child all the time.
@@shawnycoffman🙌🙌🙌 glad you know the proper quote.. it's often twisted as "blood is thicker than water" to manipulate people into accepting mistreatment and abuse from "family"
The AUDACITY of his mom demanding she get all three options. Also, imagine recording an argument about not buying your child gifts because you pay child support and actually think you are in the right.
Right, because his mom said. That mom was probably the same mum crying about his dad not helping him.. The BM literally said childcare is 2000 a month. What’s 200$? That barely gets you essentials and some fuel.
She wants her son to have a happy Christmas without having to lie to him. I can't imagine what this guy thought he had to gain by uploading this video. 😮
Arguing over buying his son a Christmas present? What a deadbeat. His mother should be ashamed of him not encouraging him to be greedy and selfish. How disgusting. And he'll probably be confused when his son wants nothing to do with him when he grows up.
Does he have visitation rights or did she force him out of son's life and child support? If there is no visitation then he isn't a deadbeat but fulfilling legal obligations.
@@nickmoneyI was told if I take child support from my abusive ex he got visitation rights even if just supervised. I chose not to take him and he went to prison anyway. But 1. It's not always the girl. 2. If he's paying for child support he most likely has some type of visitation even if he's not choosing to be there for it. 3. I could be wrong this is just my personal experience. :)
Not every parent should stick around for their bio kids. I wish it was more normalized for like adoption/ showing genuine love it sucks when a parent doesn't want to connect or in a situation (a toxic relationship to the baby mama) but they also shouldn't like be dragged to be involved I guess. If they don't care, they don't care. Not everyone connects with their kids and other situations. When the baby daddy is dragged and guilted into a false interaction with the kid, it just...can create levels of confusion and hurt that isn't necessary. It sucks for sure. I'd rather be around people who want to be around me and not feel obligated to. I say this as an adoptee that was rejected and accepted and it taught me the importance of feeling chosen in various ways. I don't know my birth father and I don't care to. I know my birth mom and I love her in my own way. Dead beat dad's n ect, yea some of them are awful and can walk away from their kids easier but- why force your child to interact with someone who isn't emotionally interested. Not to mention the relationship between the mother and father can really speak volumes on why they can't work as a team or even why it's better they're not a team.
@@chelseykimrey5848 Depends on state and lawyers, a vindictive mother could have soul custody with no visitation rights but collect child support as well. Father might not want anything to do with son too and just fulfills legal requirements. Also fact ex was so aggressive means it was an abusive relationship most likely from her end towards him since he was so calm the entire time.
7:40 mom is WAY too entitled to his successes. Like; as a parent myself who didn’t have a single bit of a normal childhood, I do not deserve NO PROPS, NO ENTITLEMENT, and ZERO CUDOS FOR MY CHILDRENS NORMAL CHILDHOOD AND WHAT I SACRIFICED FOR THEM. That was my choice to be a parent. The least I could do was do it gracefully and lovingly. I chose to make children. I chose to sacrifice and I did it all as a labor of love. Plus I had to buy my own damn car. And pay bills and take care of the house and my 14 other siblings as a teen. She needs to STAAAAHHHHPPPPPP
To be fair, I think good parents at least deserve to celebrate not raising a killer, rapist, or pedo. You never know if you did a good job as a parent until the kid reaches adulthood. Other than that, yeah, there should be no entitlement or that horrible gaslighting. I don't understand why some parents are like this. It's horrible, and they wonder why no one calls them in their old age.
@@MadMage1993 all three of my girls are grown. 20,21,&23. They are amazing wonderful kind people who always stand up for what’s right. No matter who is in the wrong. I’m so proud of them. But honestly, I feel like them growing into amazing humans is more the work they put into themselves. They worked hard to become great humans and I only guided them. My job was hard, it wasn’t easy by any means, but they did the most work. All I really did was talk to them like tiny adults and made sure they knew how to think for themselves. And how to have a voice. But thank you because I’m not the only one who thinks they’re just the bees knees
Okay hi I'm trying to figure out something ... so when my mother tells me her whole life was cut out to attend to my every need from year 1-3 ... And when my father then tells me I started misbehaving when my brother was born and he already knew by my look that I disliked this sudden new family member ... And when they blame me for the families problems because I was always different and was a malicious child that loved to act out control on all the family members to get what I wanted... You're telling me that's simple parenthood tasks .... and not some great achievement they can cut down every argument with?!
Trying to frame his sister for their father's murder was bad enough, but I feel like if he so nonchalantly gave out her contact information to a serial killer, dude learned nothing at all while in prison and probably should not be released based on that information alone.
I have a friend whose ex husband is in jail and he's given her info to so many different inmates that don't have anyone on the outside. I've told her it's really dangerous for someone to do.
The mentality within jails and prisons don't consider the common sense of don't give out a female family member's contact info to your bros in custody. It's just such a weird mindset. I had to put an inmate's pictures of his kids in his personal belongings to take with him when he was released because it was a picture of a young kid in the bathtub. I couldn't believe the family member didn't even think it through like the amount of pedos in jail is enough to not hand out those types of photos. The inmate wasn't in custody for any of those kind of crimes, but I had to tell him after showing him his pictures, he couldn't keep them in his cell because there's too many creeps. 😅
@@jeaniebird999 Sounds more like a sociopathic case who has no conscience and doesn't learn that actions have consequences. Maybe that's why he was in a maximum security prison with other creeps like him.
The worst part of the videos with the father who doesnt like his own child enough to get them a small present, is that the child will be able to find them one day and literally hear their biodad say a new years outfit is more important than them. Absolutely heartbreaking
I almost cried when I saw that part 😭😭😭 I can't ever imagine my dad doing that to us, he literally does so much to make sure that me and my mom had good Christmas Presents, and this sicko won't even buy his kid a toy truck. Some people are sick. Sick, sick, sick.
emotional incest happens so much with mom/son relationships and that's on the mom. i don't owe you shit for keeping me alive--doing what is legally required is not a gift. we didn't choose to be born and if you can't plan for your future after having DECADES to do so, how is that my problem?
Parents who act like they deserve an award for providing for the kid THEY CHOSE TO HAVE absolutely astound me. You chose to have the kid, YOU took on the responsibility of their care and keeping until they were capable of doing it themselves, YOU are not entitled to anything in return. Kids aren't supposed to be grateful. We HOPE they are grateful for the things we provide them, the sacrifices we make to ensure they have everything they need and a lot of things they want. It shouldn't be expected. You shouldn't be keeping an invoice like your relationship with your child is transactional. Your entire job is to provide for that kid, period.
My mom told all 3 of us kids, we owe her $25k each, for raising us. She was also super abusive, clearly, so indont know how she thinks she deserves that much, let alone anything.
Oh Lord. That mom using her son made me sick. Imagine thinking that your child OWES you for simply raising you and doing what is expected of parents. I hope he put his foot down and has started to cut those ties because it'll just get worse
Problem is he doesn't have healthy boundaries it's very likely that he will end up with an even more controlling spouse . He needs to go NC and start counseling
That poor man may be suffering a type of Stockholm syndrome. Imagine how much he could've done for himself in this time which is the goal of most parents to see their kids surpass them. Most of us want to see our kids thrive and have a better life beyond what we could give them. Not give us what they work for.
@@grungydoll I could see him having a type of Stockholm, especially growing up with a mother like that. Dude needs to find a GOOD therapist, a very good therapist to help him work through all of this and learn to set and MAINTAIN boundaries with his mother
The first one blew my mind. My friend used to be a prison guard, the emphasis she put on how you have to be SO CAREFUL about interacting with prisoners and the info you give them--because they've got connections on the outside, info travels fast, and people you love can wind up dead or assaulted. Fun fact though, she ended up being with a prisoner. Idk how that turned out.
Yoooooo that last dude was upsetting. He’s literally doing the legal bare minimum and basically saying I don’t care about that child. He’s an inconvenience and I don’t want nothing to do with him or even being a good person at this point. Actions speak so much louder than words. You chose to make actions that lead to these consequences. Own your shit, take responsibility, man up and be a parent. That child didn’t ask for this. And just because he doesn’t carry the child, doesn’t mean he didn’t had a choice in signing over his rights when he agreed to child support. He signed the birth certificate, he agreed to child support, he needs to be more of a man and act right.
This is my family TBH. Both of my families are like the 3rd ladies story. Generationally and independently wealthy, but uncaring aholes, unbothered entitled aholes. (Also, rich ppl are all on drvgs or drvnks I promise you). So I went to stay with my aunt at 16 when my parents went on "vacation" to their home in France and I wasn't invited lol. Later found out later my mom went to stay there to have my twin brothers in France so they'd be dual citizens like me. I didn't know my mom was pregnant, I didn't see her for 5 months till they let me come. My parents were also in the midst if a divorce. It was messy. My aunt kept telling me, a 16 yr old, how much she hated her children, and their father. That they were such a burden. I once woke up to my 6 MONTH OLD COUSIN* crying alone in her rocker in her nursery. Idk how long she'd been there, but I had to care for her and feed her. My aunt had fired another nanny for "being nosy." I went down from the 4th floor, I was so mad, a baby could have gotten hurt alone up there if she wiggled out of the rocker!! Only after searching the house did I find my 5 yr old cousin alone watching TV. I asked where her mom was and she said rolling her eyes that her mom was in the garage, she knew exactly what my aunt was doing at 5! I tried to open the garage, baby in my hands and it was locked. I unlocked it and my aunt was smoking weed in her car with some guy. I was MORTIFIED. My aunt got mad at me for disturbing them. Admittedly my aunt is the most immature one of all the siblings. Shes almost 50 and still throws herself onto the floor having tantrums when she doesnt get her way. She has no job and leeches of my grandmother. My aunt does nothing all day but get high and remodel her house. My mom and uncle have careers but are also terrible parents. My mom dumped my twin brothers off onto me when they were about 8 months old to focus on her work again, thats like the 1 thing she cares most about. And I mean literally I raised them. My dad was an abusive alcoholic att and is still never around going on fancy fishing trips, etc. His parents fund his lifestyle and dont say anything since he almost died as a kid, they baby TF out of him still at 58. My brothers honestly barely know my parents and are 21 yrs old now. 1 of them has HF autism and I put in a lot lf work to raise them the way I NEVER was. They both consider me their mom and my autistic brother has attachment disorder. Thankfully my husband is amazing and supportive. Weve known each other since Kindergarten and his mother is my mom friend but we both hated the lifestyle. The grass isnt greener on the other side trust me.
@@SaintShion That sounds ROUGH. I grew up with lots of money, but fortunately my mother was very down to earth, hated over-consumption and taught me to appreciate value in things. My father managed to blow all his money, the all of his inheritance, so he’s now bankrupt. I have enough, but I’m now disabled so, it won’t improve much… Mondays doesn’t make people happy. Having it reduces some stresses, but increases others. And no amount of money will fix a narcissistic parent.
The last video is craaazy. The dude uploaded that video thinking he was in the right for refusing to buy his child a gift. Imagine having such a warped world view where you'd think that was a good idea.
I feel like most people miss in that last one. He’s complaining about giving them money for a Christmas gift or getting them a Christmas gift but he’s going inside to get a brand new iPhone and a New Year’s Eve outfit??? 🙄
Yeah he clear gives no shit if his kids are happy or not. I'd love to see the comments on his video, but chances are there are just as many deadbeat parents backing him up
Right! He recorded her like he didn’t look foolish. Also there’s no way I would sit and argue practically begging a fool to buy my baby a gift. They both looked foolish. You pay your child support and when he ask “did dad get me a gift” I’d just say no but mom got you plenty so it doesn’t matter. Children grow up and understand who is an adult hole parent. And the parent usually regrets it when the child has low contact with them.
About the first story, Jody Pico or Picoult writes popular fiction which can be characterised as family saga. She frequently centers storylines on a moral dilemma or a procedural drama which pits family members against one another.
The fact that that was the source material, how he DESTROYED their relationship with their father and the other inmates enjoyed it too....was mom being petty originally or getting advice
Loved that the last mom stood up for her son, she may not be able to convince her ex-husband to buy him a gift but boy did she give it a go, she can at least be proud of that
Hilarious how he thought “He’S dAh MaN!!!” By filming her trying to desperately get him not to abandon their kid like that. I hope the kid sees through his dad’s crap in the future, and I hope the mom doesn’t protect ‘daddy dearest’s’ precious reputation :)
Child support doesn’t even make a dent in taking care of a kid. If she did use the money for gifts he would’ve had an issue with that too. I want to know what he thought he was doing recording her
It looks like this may have a repost too, if you look at the caption. I'm sure there's Chadbro Alphamales who would be like: "How dare she ask him to buy his kid a gift!" - plenty of toxic guys who would side with the guy here.
The last woman, my heart goes out to her. She probably knows the importance of feeling like the Dad cares, and the fear of what happens when she buys the gift and it comes out later, as it always does. Catch 22 understatement.
LOL! This mother and son debate over who owes who what and why is just priceless. I am 61 and my son is 28 and I don't expect him to buy me anything. He has a life, job, home and a great girlfriend he needs to focus on and not me. I have always told him how much I love him and feel that he needs to focus on his life and not worry about me. Having and raising him was a gift enough for me. That is the greatest gift a parent receives.
Well said! I am also 61, and my daughter is 38. She makes me my favorite dinner on my birthday. I never want gifts. But this is her way to show her love and gratitude. She's told me this many times. 😊 Sitting down with her and my grandson makes my birthday special every year! 60 😆 was just another year older. I feel the exact same way you do! 💜🤗✌️
My parents had 7 kids, I'm the youngest. My parents never asked for anything from us kids. The gifts we gave were from the heart. Many times, it was made by our own hands or was something unique we found. Never anything elaborate, but definitely from love.
After she said "he shared contact information with a serial killer with his own Wikipedia page" I was absolutely not expecting the continuation of the book club. Lol
I mean, he's not getting out. Also, he wants the books to keep coming. If anything, he'd want to protect his contact with the outside. So many men feel left behind and forgotten in jail. And truthfully after the first 5 years most ppl stop contract. One of my childhood friends made terrible terrible decisions at eighteen and got 15 years no parole. He was amazed at colorful cash. Tens had just turned orange. But I wrote him infrequently, when he'd pop into my head. In a lot of ways, prison is inhumane and should be illegal the way they do it. Grouping the inmates by age alone would stop so many horrific occurrences. I think every school bully becomes a corrections officer and they never grow out of bullying.
I really hope she doesn’t become one of those with savior syndrome (or whatever it’s called, happens a lot but I don’t think it’s under Stockholm Syndrome) where they start ‘BuT tHeY’rE jUsT mIsUnDeRsToOd!!!’ (Or under ‘they regret’) They then fight for their ‘changed person’ to be freed from jail, cases I hear usually succeed, and when they do, guess who dies? Usually said Savior Syndrome person, and then several others as said ‘changed person’ has not changed in the slightest.
im not surprised. prison, esp max security, is extremely dreary and depressing and books and such are so controlled that being able to read fiction and talk with other human beings about it would be a major quality of life improvement. even a murderer can feel lonely. the brother was still stupid as fuck tho, giving personal information si such a dumb decision. there are safer ways to establish a book club for inmates
the way that the mom rolled her eyes when her son started talking about having his own family speaks volumes... she doesnt care .., she just wants him to stay with her until she dies. She will def be an insufferable mil to his future gf or wife
For the first one: the fact that they could repair their relationship via books (or at all) feels like a good indication that the issue was NOT about killing their father, just the blame. It’s crazy how effective “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” fixes a ton of sibling fights.
Omg I didn't realise it first but yeah you're so right!! So my guess is that they shared some trauma that no one but the other sibling can truly understand. Probably as children the consequences of making any mistake were absolutely terror, they were punished severely for any little mistake or inconvenience by their father. So blaming it on the mum was a ptsd survival response fuelled by the unimaginable fear of facing the consequences. Which the mom eventually understood, because she has the same fears.. I don't know, I could be completely off..
@@brendag6148 could be! My own theory was that their father maybe SA’d his daughter and her brother put a permanent stop to it. My main reason for thinking this direction is that it never says she served any jail time-and that would make sense if everyone thought it was self-defense. Brother may have banked on that so the deed could be done but no one would actually serve time. Idk.
@@brendag6148 this was worded so perfectly.... I get it!! and yeah I think this makes total sense because any other person would have cut the brother off for life without question
My heart breaks for him. His mom shouldn't expect him to turn around and be her parent/husband/ entire world. He is absolutely right that that was her JOB as a mother to provide for him.
Child support dude wouldn't even be paying child support if he didnt have to. He makes it painfully obvious that he doesnt care about the child the both probably wanted to have. Its upsetting
Exactly! Buy your kid a damn present. Her threat to take him to court to force him to buy a gift is ridiculous. He isn't legally obligated to buy his son anything. Some other comment above said it clearly - He has made it clear he is only going to do what he is legally obligated to do. He's a terrible father.
Regarding that last clip: The mom is not only trying to help save the dad's reputation, but also help her kid grow up with a healthy sense of self-esteem. A child who grows up feeling like a parent doesn't think about them or care about them is going to have psychological issues as they get older. Kids especially will internalize these kinds of feelings, which will manifest into resentment and even self-loathing, making their lives more difficult and uncertain (Speaking from experience).
This poor mother 😢 I understand how badly she wants to protect her son and make him feel loved, but there's no hope for it. Her son will know that his dad doesn't care at all no matter how hard she works to shield him from the truth. Kids are far more intuitive than adults realise. Kids know when they're genuinely loved and appreciated. They can feel it. I'm sure this little boy will appreciate his mother even more as he grows, knowing how hard she tried to give him everything he deserved. He's better off with just his mother and all of her love and care than having such a waster for a dad.
Making your kid's father look better than what he is will backfire on you later. As I had done this my daughter thought her dad had morals. Now don't get me wrong the man did make sure the money was there off the ideas I told him to do to make money. He is one of the best salesmen I have ever seen. With that said with my brain we did good. After we broke up she blamed my husband for why we didn't get back together. Not the two sisters in between her and her sister. We were together for 20 yrs. I found out about the two girls 21 to 22 yrs later. I knew that one maybe out there but when I did ask him he non-stop said no. At that point it was only a business relationship for me and I feel that the siblings should know each other. Which would have been good for her 3 daughter because she passed away young. I told him see if you didn't lie they would know they could have come to me instead of running around like lost girls getting with the wrong men. They believe he did more for my kids. The truth is I did more and demanded more. If I knew about them they would have got great gifts from him that I purchased. He did have 3 kids. Well 4 when was not biologically his but he did claim her as his daughter. They were taken from that mom. He did fight for years for them. The oldest got one visit from him that I went to so they figured I was his mom. One because he claimed me and the fact he looked like my daughters. So I went every weekend to see him on Saturday and Sunday. The third time he asked was his dad. I lied and said he could not make it. He looked at me and smiled. At this time I had been there 6 times or the third weekend there and at this point he knew I was lying to not have him sad. Unfortunately he remembers me saying I would do anything to give you joy in life. At some point his real mom came and unfortunately he beat her up there and how they found out I was the stepmom. So at first I couldn't come without the dad. But the only way they could control him was knowing he could have that visit with me so they let me come back. He apologize for getting so mad that he beat the mom up. I told him don't worry about it I same thing when you all were taken. She could have told the police to call me to come get all of you including your two sisters because I had the room, but she was so selfish she didn't. So I can't be mad at you. At that point he said thank you for trying to make me feel bad about my dad and thank you for keeping coming.
Yeah poor mother really, I can feel her heart breaking with exhaustion at this man who has the emotional depth of a teaspoon. Like… she is trying so hard to cover for his ass and he can’t even get the fact that she is trying to help him save his face and relationship with his own kid. He really doesn’t give a shit… poor kid. But maybe she should stop trying tho because there’s no way she can keep covering for him so it’s actually better if the kid learns the truth and starts making peace with it… idk, though situation.
I love the second young man..Can't stand that toxic AF mother!!!!! She is disgusting and has went beyond a healthy parent relationship..Why would she look for a husband when she wouldn't be able to have a real relationship without toxic control!!!
And she EXPECTS her son to get her an extravagant trip, gift and party. Just because she heaved him out of her orifice. It’s selfish and greedy to think your child will spend their money for their future on your birthday. Entitled narcissist!
When he has kids she means. She’s using the fact that he’ll use her for childcare to try to say he needs to provide for her and buy her all these things.
I love this topic you should definitely make more of these videos! I started watching mama’s boy on discovery and I just can’t believe the audacity of these mothers. I don’t want to watch but I can’t stop because it just keeps getting crazier and I love it❤
That child support Christmas situation made me sad. My mom and dad split when I was 2 months old. My father never had to be taken to court to figure out fair child support with my mom, he gave it willingly and consistently and we had our own whole holidays with my dad and stepmother, complete with presents on Christmas and Easter baskets, Halloween parties, Thanksgiving or leftovers if we weren't there that day. My parents really did the coparenting thing and my stepmother, RIP Deb, was the one to make that happen most cohesively.
This is how it should be. ❤ You were blessed to have such great parents & especially a wonderful step mom. Deb sounded like a beautiful person❤ My condolences. ✨
My parents split when I was 4 and my dad and stepmom would stay at my mom and stepdad’s house when they came to visit. My parents never badmouthed each other and would say they were both responsible for their marriage ending. I was so grateful to not have a toxic divorce situation with them.
My mother is the exact same. She did the barest minimum, treated us children like crap, but expects us to bend over backwards for her for all she 'suffered'. I am older than the guy and I still am struggling because of her trying to make herself the center of the universe.
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I'm sorry to read that. I hope you'll be strong enough to not let it ruin your own happiness in life. Sending love. 🤍
@ it's difficult. She actively tries any dirty trick she can to spoil anything good or positive in my life
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@@RobinTimDrake I think, if I was you, I'd just get her out of my life. Hard decision, but some parents don't deserve to be part of their children's lives. I'm definitely not gonna judge your situation as I know nothing about it, I just don't want anyone to be hurt and disrespected unreasonably. 🥺 Really, I can only wish you the strenght to deal with it.
If dude is expecting her to buy gifts with the child support money I would take him back to court to get an increase and use this video that he made as a reference to why it needs to increased. At the same time my brothers dad did something similar when he was growing up. My mom didnt defend nor trash him, just kind of let my brother make his own conclusions and now that he’s grown they don’t have a relationship. It sucks but sometimes letting ur kids see who their other parent really is can be the best thing for them.
That last dude....I guess if he had custody, it would be "I support him all year, he don't need a Christmas gift!" SMDH His mother probably thinks she is punishing the baby momma by doing that, but....(on a side note, if he is paying $2200 a month child support, he has to be making at least $8500 a month salary, states cap support at 20-25% of salary)
That entitled, gold-digging Mom treats her son like she would any man she snared. As long as she is looked after first and foremost. Shameful. She even stoops so low as to take advantage of her son. He needs to 'get in the wind', and let her look after herself. Snap her into reality and maybe some appreciation of what her son has done for her.
He’s wrong, she’s not treating him like a husband, she’s treating him as an extension of herself. She does not think of him as a whole individual human being. He needs to move far far away. Confronting a narcissistic person like this won’t do anything because they think they are right and you cannot change their mind. The only option is to create space, build your own life, and hope the pain of losing you is enough for them to seek out professional help and change. (Although it likely will not be)
Only after signing over all things that she has that you may have bought for her so you are not legally responsible as a party to the property or ownership and therefore liable for ANY costs associated.
It won't though. Narcissists do NOT care as long as they have someone to benefit from. She's good at gaslighting. She's fine a man pretty quickly out there. Most sht women do! 😂
That's what I was thinking. She thinks she's entitled to everything he has Just because she birthed him and raised him. She want crazy benefits for doing the bare minimum as a parent. These kind of people will never be grateful for anything, never appreciate anything you do and the moment you don't do one thing they ask, they guilt trip you by saying you don't care about them. They will never change, speaking from experience. Nothing good is come out of such relationships, please stay away from people like this, doesn't matter if it's family. Honestly, it's worse if it's your family.
Jeeez that woman..It was my mother's 60th birthday like two weeks ago. She was a little dubious about me buying her more than one gift and the take out I ordered her. Then we just chilled on the couch all day. New appreciation unlocked.
When I turned 60 a year ago, my daughter made me my favorite dinner. 💜 It's all I wanted. No gifts, just the company of her, my grandson, and mom. How entitled do you have to be to treat your child so poorly. 😢 I am grateful to have the love and friendship of my daughter for my birthday always. 💜🥰✌️
That's my dad😂 I said "let's open your gifts" and he said "gifts plural??" And made a face bc he doesn't like his kids spending a lot on him. He only recently actually started answering when asked what he wants for Christmas😂 always super appreciative 💚
I bought my mom a laptop because I had the cash and it would make her job easier, she was very greatful. Then I caught her looking at a sewing machine and she had mentioned she would like one to alter her clothes as fast as I could. (She could hand sew but I could hem her pants in 10 minutes) I got her the pretty sewing machine with 60 different stitches and she was greatful but said "Baby you shouldn't spend so much on me. You just got me the laptop and you got your own bills." So I had to downplay the sewing machine, like it's not even the one I have. Much cheaper and I got it on sale. Then she finally took it and was so happy setting it up. She very much has the attitude that it's nice to receive gifts from her kid but I don't owe her anything more quality mother daughter time.
As a fan of Jodi Picoult, . . . she writes from an often uncomfortable POV. She tackles very uncomfortable issues with a "how did we get here?" approach rather than simply tagging a character as "the villain". That means you should not read your first Picoult book on an e-device, you will inevitably throw it. You must finish a Picoult book, or it will haunt you. And schedule a recovery period, it will overwhelm your thoughts for a bit.
I mostly agree with you, but sometimes her messaging gets a little muddled with “avoiding” having a bad guy. And she adds a lot of “fluff” in some cases that distract from her point. For example, the sister’s keeper. The lawyer having this thing where he tells people different things about his dog. Or that her brother is a fire starter. Or where the PP shooter took care of his daughter and all the “details” that he was proud of… while she’s trying to walk this line of applauding him and single-moms-do-it-every-day I do like that she experiments with structure (stories in a story, told backwards, etc) But she tries too hard sometimes that a literal nazi isn’t so bad because he’s a good guy now. Or a PP shooter is just frustrated that his daughter almost died (and yet it was his own bad parenting that led to her naïveté about how sex works and how pregnancy works and how abortions work and she hadn’t gone to the clinic at all.) (Also, that nurse that called the cops on her… death to her. That character should be drawn and quartered.)
My parents divorced when I was 5 and my lil' sis was 3. My dad paid off the entire child support in one go upfront with extra to boot. My mom tried to go through courts several times in the years afterwards to get more. Got shot down by the judge every time (she was a wonderful mom btw, no issues there) and still my dad sent us birthdaygifts and Christmas gifts every year even though it was a fight-divorce. There's no excuse for not giving your kids gifts. And it isn't about the gifts, it's the remembering of the gift giving. Those kids are going to remember this about their dad. :( forever.
How did he do that?! My son’s father pays $500/month. My son is 6 now, so that would be $6,000/year x 12 years (not including the past three years he’s paid). That’s $72,000 in one payment!! And $500/month is on the lower end for child support. It used to be $50/month…
@@Tree_fairyI’ve heard a few cases of a parent who have been able to write lump sum checks for child support but from what I’ve heard that it really isn’t the most encouraged option because of potential payment modifications are always lingering in the back. I’m guessing mom/dad has the extra cash handy go for it but don’t get mad when there is a need to drop more money
@@idjilju2835 the judge also took in account my mother remarried and she started her own company with the money from that payment which generated income
As the only child(daughter) of a single mother who has bpd...I can (unfortunately) confirm that there are parents out here who parentify and "spouse"- cify thier kids. We are expected to be child, parent, best friend, punching bag, etc. It's truly exhausting. They will find every excuse to guilt you into doing everything for them to "prove you love them". I hope that young man gets support and sets some healthy boundaries.
Child support is the MINIMUM amount of parental responsibility that one owes to their child. Birthday gifts and Christmas gifts are separate from the basic day to day cost of raising a child. She just explained to him that childcare alone was $2,000! If my ex didn’t want to buy our kid a gift, fine. I’d be honest about it. “Dad didn’t buy a gift for you, I’m sorry sweetie.” Dad would have to answer for it when the child grows up.
My ex played this game. He said “if you want them to have the gifts we bought them, then go buy the same gifts”, “nobody’s gonna want you, you have two kids”, and “what I do with them on my time is my business, and what you do on your time is your business” I never begged, pleaded or whined, those three statements made me who I am today. My now husband came into our lives when they were young and did not want just me, he wanted all of us. He is the one they call when they want or need their dad. Every Saturday, when our grand baby lays in my arms I think “this is absolutely my time”.
I'm in the process of divorcing my husband and fighting for custody of our son... I fully expected to struggle to find someone who would want a woman with a toddler. Turns out, a friend of mine was already wanting to take on the role of step-dad after watching me struggle to get my ex to care about us. And he has completely jumped in with both feet, learning to change diapers and everything.
Exactly. He’s talking about being married one day but I don’t think he understands that no woman will put up with all that. The mom will make sure she stays single so she won’t lose her supply.
Boundaries won’t even cut it. That man is going to have to fake his own death and leave the country to ever get out of the claws of his narcissistic mother.
@@spicymayo623 Exactly! My ex was a momma’s boy, it was a NIGHTMARE especially since he had no care or awareness about how the situation was affecting me. This man needs needs to break up with that mother, she needs to love her son and prioritise him but I don’t think this kind of people would ever do that.
I need to take a minute to appreciate the passed at the end of the 3rd story lol when Charlotte says I would have told the school I wrote all his essays.. The way the video paused on the girls face.. It's like yup that what im going to do lol 😂
A little note to parents who pay child support: that money is for day-to-day living expenses. It's for rent, utlities, clothes, food, childcare (if they're younger), etc. It is NOT for gifts, birthdays or Christmas. It does not replace spending time with your kids. Yes, kids are expensive. Think about that before you lay down and have one. But it takes two to have them, so it takes two to raise them. If you don't want to pay for a child, buy gifts, for a child, spend time with a child, then the answer is simple - don't have a child. Contraception exists for a reason. Damn.
Or just keep it in your pants. I know. It’s a groundbreaking, shocking and novel concept. I simply chose not to be involved that way with anyone I did not have a relationship with or who I couldn’t see being a stand up guy if something did happen. For the ladies, if he is not marriage material, just say no. No man worth your time will think less of you for saying no.
@@TheBaumcm I agree completely with you and think that's the exact answer for people with intelligence. The reason I only mentioned contraception (instead of including abstinence) is that the people that need to hear that message are not people with intelligence and self control, like yourself. The guy in the video was more interested in getting an outfit for NYE so he could go out, party, and probably get someone else pregnant. The message of abstinence will never get through to someone who prioritises getting laid over their obligations and responsibilities. For those people, contraception is the only message that stands a chance of getting through (&, even then, it only normally works if you list the horrific STI symptoms they might end up with, rather than the creation of a life they will care nothing about, sadly).
idk hes paying 2200 a month. thats far more than i make in a month. in this specific scenario shes coming off really entitled when hes already paying so much. he explained he cant afford gifts this year and thats fine. hes not obligated to give things away when he cant afford it. ive had many a year my dad struggled and didnt give gifts out and same with my mom. gifts shouldnt matter. the holiday is about being together and being kind.
@@LionWithAGun The child support amount would have been decided by a court and based on the earnings he declared, so $2,200 will not be an unaffordable amount for him. But, in all honesty, that is not the issue. She had to go to him because he ignored the child on Christmas. It's not about money, it's about showing the child you care. Just because the court doesn't mandate that you show love to the child, that doesn't mean that you're not morally obligated to. Showing up, taking him out as a gift (to the park that will cost you nothing), making him something, or buying him something from the dollar store. All of these are acceptable - but he did nothing. This isn't about money, it's about him not caring. "He explained he can't afford gifts this year", but he also said he was there to get a new phone and buy himself a new outfit for NYE - so he has the money, he just doesn't care about son. There is no way he can get a new outfit and a new phone and not have a dollar to buy a small toy or pack of sweets/candy. You said "the holiday is about being together and being kind". I agree. The mother said her problem was the she was going to be the one to have to explain to the child why his father hadn't bothered, indicating that he wasn't going to be there. So if he isn't going to give him time, she was merely asking for a token for the child so he didn't feel unloved. If the father was doing *anything* other than court-mandated child support, the mother would not be there. She even said that neither him not his family bother with the child. That's my problem with him - he is not stepping up and being a father.
I can somewhat relate to the third story. When I worked at Target while in college, a mom told her very young son “this is why you go to college, so you don’t work here”. The irony… some people have no clue
Lmao my friend worked at target when she was like 18 and when she was checking the woman out they got to talking about paying for college as she was going thru that too and the mom made some offhand remark about not wanting her sons to marry a woman with a lot of college debt like her lol something like along those lines, so rude! Some ppl have no manners and are just so out of touch with reality, like not all parents can afford to pay for their kids entire college educations and need to take out some financial help
The second guy is a text book definition of parentification.... she should be paying for his therapy. Also, I'm glad that you looked up those cookies, they look amazing. The last situation was so sad, you can see that the mum is trying her best to protect her son
So many people think child support is basically paying the woman to raise the child. That is not what it is. I'd make him have custody for a couple years and pay child support to him. That'd make em learn quick. No wonder she divorced that loser.
If you actually have kids and cherish love them and want the best for them, then NO you wouldn’t make him take custody for a couple years. Like NO YOU WOULD NOT
...honestly props to the mom for having book club with a serial killer. Given the state of our prison system she's probably actually helping a lot of people with that.
I was a single mom of 4 sons after divorcing their father due to DV. I worked 96hrs a WEEK half the year so my sons never experienced housing, food, or clothing insecurities. All my sons are in their 20's now. The ONLY two things they owe me is to be happy and successful. Success can be different for everyone.. the eye rolling, etc. says she has ZERO respect for her son.. It sounds like she doesn't work either.. I would absolutely cry if my sons bought me a house or car and i would never ask for another gift ever. You know when they ask what i want for my birthday or Xmas, i already usually tell them to not worry about me, and just save their money. I would probably pass out if someone brought me a house or a car for real . 😂❤
The aunt needs to divide up the cookies and give them to specific recipients as part of their Christmas gift. You've lost your communal cookie privileges
I got the “secret” recipe and made those “rainbow”cookies *(once.)* They literally took hours to finish. *It’s “Toll House” choc chip dough in a roll IF Xmas cookie baking is ever a thing again in the future!*
I truly thought she was going to say her aunt revealed Nona's recipe was actually cookies from a tiny secret bakery in a neighboring town. It probably would've been less traumatic tbh.
When i was little, my dad had moved my mom n all us kids from Texas to maine, n then abandoned us... every year on birthdays n christmas, my mom would buy extra gifts n tell us they were from daddy, so we wouldnt get our lil hearts broken, thinking daddy didnt love us... the single coolest thing ive ever heard of a mom doing, so completely selfless!!!! She didnt even get child support either!
She is the MOM Period! A parent is to not EXPECT anything from the children. You know you raised them well if they reciprocate on their own accord when they get older. ALL I expect when my children get older is to call me once a week to check in and make sure they are alive. I will always support my children no matter how old they get. If they are like him and have a house, car, etc., and need help with anything from watching a kid to needing toilet paper, I will be there for Free and provide them with whatever they need. THAT IS A PARENT!
I absolutely love all the movies you quote on your shows. Subtle but loud to anyone in your age group. I think we grew up watching similar things because I get it! Be grateful Ana!. I think I've heard you quote ferngully, massive Disney and Pixar classics, definitely jim carrey... and it's a great indicator of a cool personality!
@@RavenAvry13 I highly doubt they are because the whole point of her arguing with him about him getting a damn gift for their kid is so the kid doesn't grow up believing their dad don't love or care about them. Like there is no reason during those videos to think she is a terrible parent. She is arguing on her child's behalf to ensure they don't feel abandoned by a parent who to us clearly doesn't give a flying fuck about their kid.
@@RavenAvry13No, the idiot thinks that MAYBE paying child support and not showing a child love is being a parent. His mom is encouraging him to behave as his biodad probably behaved. The mother of their child is trying to break this generational neglect.
Uh. No. That son should say nope. One present. Or tickets to something. The fact that he knows she’s a narcissistic is a bonus. The fact that he knows she’s a gas lighter. He won’t be able to get or stay married with a mom like that. You don’t get a medal for being and doing a the basics of being a good parent. You owe her nothing. Period.
@@TheSnakehunter that's diff that's necessities and living expenses, not Xmas gifts. So he's not gonna eat, go to daycare, engage in whatever extracurriculars, have every day clothes, meds, etc just to get gifts from his dad? Foh. She's right. 2200$ is broke boy money and if u think that's enough to raise a kid ur sadly mistaken
@@deeparao-tw2oe $2000 for daycare is not a necessity. The average cost for daycare for a MONTH is just at $1000. So where is the other $1000 going? Probably her hair and nails.
I'm so happy Charlotte showed the clip with the guy and the mom because it's a situation that isn't talked about enough, so obviously me and my siblings love our parents because despite the narcissistic moments we had to endure they held us up when we felt down however as we grow into adulthood we learned how to deal with the ups and down and were creating our life on our own. Our parents would as much as they can hit us with the "We raised you so do this" or "I did this for you so you should.." At first, we all fell for it until we started getting into disputes that they themselves caused, and everything seemed to be our fault. I remember the moment me and my siblings and I looked at each other and just busted out laughing at how tiring and bizarre this whole thing is, it felt like a weight lifted off my shoulder. Seeing other people's stories on social media taught us that parents in general made a choice to have kids wether accident or on purpose (Not talking about SA) so they're are the ones to take care of us as we arent able to now as we get older, parents have to let us go outside so that we enjoy and learn as they also got to at their age, I wish I had know this sooner but it is what it is, we put our foot down and they would bawl and whine until they realize we weren't budging and now they're given up on controlling us and would occasionally say how proud of us they are. It's bittersweet, but that's okay. My parents weren't bad people. They just felt more acclaimed to things they shouldn't, and we still love them despite how insufferable or odd they are. However, I hope that video and this comment reach to anyone who feels like giving up or is exhausted like we were and know lots of things fade with time and you will be okay❤
Long story: I was working as a house keeper, nanny, dog walker, mommy helper, bartender at private parties. I didn"t work for agencies, i had my own clients. The money was good and i got the weekends off. One family i'll never forget, the husband and kids were super nice. But the wife... she was a narcissist. She is the kid of rich people that treats u badly and she won't even notice. Like, it's normal to her, that's the way she is. She asked me to work only for her, and she convinced me cause she seemed so nice. One thanksgiving she asked me to work and i said yes. My job was 9am-5pm. That day i stayed until everyone had dinner and i did a lot. I cooked, i set the big table, i cleaned the house. Washed dishes, pots, took out the trash, everything. And i stayed till 10 i believe. When everybody was at the table she called me and say "ok everyone, let's thank her for dinner, she cooked", that was weird , but whatever. Then she says "And Lucy is a single mom, she has a daughter, so whatever clothes your kids don't use anymore, give them to her". I didn't say anything but my face did. And i think her guests noticed. And if the didn't it's cause they are the same as her. When i was about to leave she handed me my money and said "oh, and we want to give u this extra, cause u worked so hard today". I was surprised cause she counts pennies, she never gave me anything extra before😂 and when i saw how much she paid me, i was like😠 Cause the money she gave me "extra" was exactly what she had to pay me for the extra hours i worked. But in her mind, she tought it was ok to pay me 13 hours of work as if i had worked 8 hours. And then i had to be thankful cause she gave me "extra $". Like i said, they don't even notice when they're being shitty. After that i never make extra efforts like i used to while at work. And one day i guess she was having a bad day and started her bs and i was like "no thank u". And left.
That’s exactly what I just went through with a lady that owns the winery I work at. I’m struggling, most ppl are. When ppl do things , just to say that they did. Or to brag …. I don’t need anything from you 💯 I only need , what I worked for . I don’t need your pity or advice. I hate the psychological hoops that society expects you to play , just to have a job nowadays. 😢 ppl are crazy 😂 And I need that job , it’s the last one I have left but this lady is a nut. I also quit a job last week , because girls were bullying me. They trashed some of my personal property, lady Gaga lip gloss and other things. I’m 36 , I still look young , it causes me issues. I’m a happy person, that’s also causes issues 🤷🏼♀️😂 Don’t let anyone put you down. No one❤
also what parent doesn't want to get their kid a gift? hell I don't even really like kids but if I get to know a kid I love getting them gifts of some kind, even if it is just something small. it's fun to shop for them.
I remember one Christmas about 35 years ago, my deadbeat dad FINALLY sent my mom a "check for Christmas gifts" for my younger sister and me. When my mom opened it he had written on the back of the $40 check in capital letters "CHILD SUPPORT". My mom did not even bother to change it and gave it to support enforcement who finally had the info they needed to go after him for child support. It's kinda funny that's what he wrote on the check and that check was the reason they garnished his wages to send to my mom. I LOVE karma!! 😂 P.S. that was the last "Christmas present" we ever got from him 😂
@@folkloreofbeing I know someone whos sister did that. Luckily the grandparents took in the first child, don't know if the second child got also taken away but it is really sad to hear about people who do stuff like that. Like how greedy can people be?
I’ve been there with a deadbeat. I didn’t and couldn’t see myself arguing with him like this because he was neither worth the time nor the oxygen. He was never there and OUR child knew it without me having to do or say a word. He sent a card at their 16th birthday and I asked what it said. The response was “16 years! There’s nothing to say now.” My beautiful child figured it out all on their own. They got all the love and support needed without him.
The last one is HELLA TRIGGERING bc I went through the same thing with my daughter's father. Thank God I had the strength to stop telling him what she needs and just worked harder and provide it. Also it's not choosing bad guys it's *when you meet someone they will never show you their true colors. No one shows you their bad side until some thing drastic takes place* now my daughter is 10 and she just flats out tells him what she needs. And when I stopped asking him he started giving her. But I just tell her to spend it on what ever she needs bc it's of no use here😂
Why does the son take on all those things for his mom rather than her doing for herself? This idea that anything a woman wants MUST come from a man is insane! Just because she was a good mother doesn't mean her son must pay for everything in her life because he's finished school!!!
My daughter's deadbeat dad called me and told me he was going to get her the Teddy Ruxpin she so badly wanted for Christmas. I said, "Are you sure?" Because this bear was hard to get, and they were selling out of it everywhere. A week before Christmas and I had still not heard from him. I was calling and calling. Nothing. The night before Christmas Eve, he calls. "I'm so sorry!" He says. Blah, blah blah was all I heard. I hung up on him. We went out and scoured towns! Finally, after driving all of the way to Lubbock TX from Amarillo TX, we found it! Over the years, I had gotten used to putting his name on all of her birthday cards because I didn't want her to know what a rotten piece of crap he was. I gave her the bear in his name. Years later, she was looking through all of her memorabilia. She came in and said, "Mom, thank you." I said, "For what?" She said, "For making me think he was a good person all of those years." I asked her how she knew? She said, "I'd know your handwriting anywhere." ❤
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YOU ARE SUCH A GOOD MOMMA!
I'm not crying, you're crying!! 😭😭😭
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When my daughter was about 4, she said “if I buy daddy a Christmas present do you think he’ll get me one?” Nothing has broke me like that did! I started buying her some gifts from him and mailed them to her (at our house). It was worth the look in her eyes. She’s 24 now and has no idea. I HATED him so much but I loved her more.
That’s such a sad but sweet story - bless you ❤
That's a great thing you did for your daughter 🤎
Bless you! You're a great momma!
You both deserve better than him, I’m happy you kept it under wraps and let her feel loved. You’re a good mom, a very good mom.
Oh, tell her when she has her first. You were always there. 😢❤ made me tear up.
My granny would buy cool shells and go shell hunting with me. Throwing the bought shells when I wasn't looking letting me "find" them. She was so sneaky with it. Then she told me the secret when I had kids.
If magic isn't happening on its own momma will make magic happen. ❤🎉
That entitlement of the mom using her son as a husband, is gross. I can only imagine what kind of mother in law she will be when her son marries, let alone grandma. She literally threw the things a parent does for a child into the son’s face to try to manipulate him. Smh
He'll never get married if he keeps doing all that for his mom 🚩🚩🚩
This second story is definitely my paternal grandmother, and yet, my Grandpa is still alive and ON THIS EARTH. She has a whole ass husband and still sees my dad in that inappropriate manner. My dad and mom got married in ‘81 and are still together and my grandmother still isn’t happy they’re married. You married your HUSBAND, not your son, lady!! Get over it!!
Yeah there are reels about this creepy shit where thr mom raises the son to be the husband she always wanted and then hating any women in their life cuz they thunkntheir son is their husband. It's super creepy and nasty
I love that he's letting her expose herself too 😂
My mother acts like this lol but i got more abrasive towards her as i age
That mom and son fight on camera made me ANXIOUS
Yeah really it almost gave me a stroke just listening
Seriously. P A N I C inducing. 😭😞
My mama claimed she "raised" me and so when my biological father passed leaving me an inheritance that meant that I should pay her the back child support he owed her out of MY inheritance..... but the reality is that she GAVE ME TO ANOTHER FAMILY when I was 14 because she could not stand me. She effing hated me and the family that took me in showed me what real parents do and what real parental love was like.
Please tell me you gave her the finger instead of money!
Don’t give her a dime --hope you’re doing better now
That is awful! I am so sorry! The woman who birthed me had her parents paid for everything I did not live with from age 10 on but expected me to give her my tax refunds when I started working at 15 well into my adulthood. Then when my father passed, I made the mistake of seeing her the next day and all she did is complain about how much she hated him. They had been divorced for almost 30 years and with her current husband 20+ years at this point.
Awe, I’m so sorry babes. That’s heart breaking. But my mom adopted 13 kids off the street in the same way. So I’m so glad you have a real family and a real example of love and how family comes together when life gets harder. Not fall apart. You don’t owe her SHITUH
I am glad you got to experience real love from your family (like your mom is related to you but I don't see people like that as deserving of being a part of a family). I hope she didn't see a dime from your inheritence! You deserved the love and not that bs your mom put you through 💖
I like hearing stories like the first one, because suddenly my family isn't all that crazy.
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Same! My dad ended up in prison too, but at least not for murder? 😆 ("Just" fraud.)
I'm starting to realise just how bonkers my family are 😭
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As a mother of two grown men, the son doesn't owe momma a dime. Last I checked, no one asked to be born. If she wants payback for raising him, that's a pretty low bar, it's required by law. As she said, she doesn't want a husssssband, no she doesn't, she wants is a sugar daddy. Narcissist is a perfect description.
So true! My parents were like that too, and I thought, your “payback” for raising me is not spending time in jail for child neglect. That’s your prize. I find these older feminist women insufferable. No wonder they’re single at that age. If they don’t want a husband, they also don’t deserve what a husband has to offer.
@@Blablabla44475I agree with most of what you say, but being a feminist has nothing to do with it. I'm a feminist myself and, If anything, feminists don't believe in being dependent on a man, or anyone, for that matter. In any case, yes, the prize are the children themselves, or at least they should be.
Yes!! My argument exactly. We didn't ask to be born. I wouldn't ever sue my parents over it, but life is rough as hell...0 stars, do not recommend
the number of times ive told my mother, when god was handing out parents, and all the kids lined up and he said, "ok, i got a single teenage alcoholic mother with severe trauma from watching her dad beat her mom her whole life and will blame you for literally every shitty thing that happens to her after your birth, who wants her?" i was in the bathroom and came out doing a little happy dance from peeing and god saw my hand in the air. trust and believe mom, if i had seen what you would blame me for and put me through, id have stayed on the shitter. she always rolls her eyes and says, it doesnt work that way holly.. i reply "OH YOU KNOW!! i thought thats how you thought things worked because you act as if i picked this and have been actively ruining YOUR life since i crawled out of you" she doesnt like it when i remind her, i know what bullshit shes trying to pull on me
Someone needs to send her a copy of the song "No Charge", which speaks of a slightly different situation, but would be appropriate for her and her son.
If he’s paying $2200 for child support for one kid he’s has to be making a decent amount per month. He should be able to afford even a small gift for his child
Right after that, they both say he's paying $200. I think it was a gaffe.
@@natalieford3238 No, she said 200 was what is left after daycare because daycare is 2000
@@natalieford3238she meant she has $200 left of the $2200 child support payment since daycare for her is $2000 😊
@@natalieford3238 no they said he's paying 2200$ but daycare for one month costs 2000$. That's why they say all that's left is 200$ for all the rest of monthly expenses.
Why tf he paying 2 grand for a kid it don't cost the much for a kid.... I bet half that getting g used of that fake azz hair and nails and a new car
A 29 year old that can buy a house, Mercedes and pay off all her credit cards is not the norm. That lady will only want, want, want from him. It’ll never stop until he changes his behavior. Shame on that lady.
She needs to get a job herself! Pay for her own crap.
Agree!
And should of shut her legs if she’s going to throw everything she did for HER son in his face.
Yeah this poor young man.
Yes - but he needs to say NO. And then do it.
The mom needs therapy. Children do NOT owe parents anything. The parents decided to create the kid, the kid didn’t get a choice. If she wants something, her grown ass can go get it.
LOLZ I apparently owe my parents everything because they nearly went broke adopting me. Nobody owes me shit for being abandoned at the hospital for a week while the paperwork went through. I bonded with hospitals instead of my adoptive mom.
@@lindsayschuster302my adoptive dad was awesome. Gruff but the biggest teddy bear of a man who did whatever he could to help others who were struggling and had a sense of duty to help the community that helped him when he was growing up. Mom, well, I was never quite as good as their bio kids (even though I’m objectively better on every measure). Since she couldn’t rag on me about her labor, she’d talk about how much I cost them, including my glasses (nearsighted and asked for glasses so I could see the board at school and do my work) and braces (not vanity; had two literal rows of teeth). She even tried telling me, on my father’s literal deathbed, that he never wanted me, when he and I road-tripped and I know for a fact he wanted more kids. He used to play Santa for free for crying out loud and I was one of his favorite people in the world. Some people just have to many of their own issues to be good parents.
@@lindsayschuster302 my parents barely had enough to go shopping for themselves cause they had tons of medical bills due to a severe birth defect i had that disabled me and never asked me once to help them with anything
They're awesome
100% please preach to my mom too lol
I don’t think that’s entirely true - now I’m grown if my mum needed help I would 100% give after everything she did over the years. It’s not ok for them to demand it, but their sacrifice and time/love/money over the years does mean something. At least to me.
I watched that mother's face when he said he wanted to get married and have children. Her despair and covering her face told me all I needed to know about this pathetic and entitled mother.
Yup, the way she was looking up at the ceiling blinking up her eyes, I know that look all to well. The "I deserve this from my child cause I gave birth to them and how dare they not give their life up to me so that I wouldn't have to do lift a finger again"
It is emotional incest and a terrible thing to do to your child
Yeah, it was so obvious that this is the last thing mommy wants.
My grandmother on my father's side is also a narcissist. And she's really old now and so confused why no one likes her.
My mom and dad separated when she was pregnant.. I was lucky my dad was a good man and my mom is wonderful too.. Till this day my mom always tells me not to spend too much on her.. She wants me to save my money.. I'm 40 years old lol.. But I'm lucky enough to have had an amazing father and mother and even an amazing step father.. And they all were really good friends with one another so I'm definitely blessed I must say
It sucks to see adult kids (well, any kids) so deeply psychologically manipulated that it doesn’t even occur to them that they can leave. The guilt just has them in a chokehold and they feel like they have to convince their parents first. Just leave. Deal with the guilt later.
Morally he’s required to buy his child gifts…Christmas, Birthday, Graduation etc…If he as the Father doesn’t believe thats true, then he has a broken moral compass and absolutely zero character.
Let's make Women pay $2200 in child support and watch how they tell Men they are paying enough. Ya'll just want to bleed Men dry while spending most if not all the money on yourselves
@@TheSnakehunterfound the dead beat
@@Catt7000 found the gold digger
@TheSnakehunter the child support is literally what he would have been spending if they had stayed together. It's based off the quality of life the child could have had and does not reflect birthdays or holidays. It's literally for the care of your child (daycare, utilities, food, etc.) The judge decides child support based off how much the parents make. Not the mom. Mom can't be a gold digger if she's not even the one setting how much child support the dad is supposed to pay.
@@TheSnakehunterHey little clueless stranger let me explain some stuff to ya
1. Being a father doesn't stop at child support payments. A parent is required to also emotionally, morally and psychologically support their child (and money has nothing to do with this because there are some gestures and actions that can't be replaced by a check)
2. She wasn't asking for more money, she was asking for a gift from father to son. She insisted for him to pick out the gift and pay for it. It could've been a football for 5$ or something cheap but at least *from Dad*. It's so crucial for the child to feel dad's presence and attention even if they never see eachother cos at least he has something that reminds him of dad.
3. She's so agitated and loud about this, because imagine having your kid's eyes well up with tears on Christmas day or during the holidays because they didn't even hear from their dad let alone get a gift from him. That's feeling unloved and abandoned on a day that should be about the joy of spending time with family and loved ones. As a mother you feel absolutely defeated and powerless about the whole situation because you have no way of making it better. The one who can and should be making it better is not there, so she's the one left with fixing shit she didn't break y'know?
4. Child support is strictly calculated by the judge and if you're curious it's (in this case) 17% of the combined parental income. 2200$ is quite some money which means they both have a very decent income. And if 2200$ still seems a lot to you imma ask you this: did you want to join sports clubs as a child? Play chess? Dance? Who bought your school supplies? Did you play an instrument? Did you beg your parents for a puppy or a videogame? Who gave you lunch money? Did you get to go on random ice cream or McDonald's trips? Disneyland? Water parks? Was your fondest wish a brand new bike or skateboard at one point?
All of those things cost MONEY.
Money both parents are obligated to grant you for your development until adulthood.
Hopefully I gave you at least some insight on the matter because what you're saying is bonkers
If he doesnt get away from his mom he will never find a wife. Poor guy
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Yeaaaaaa don’t think he looking for a wife 😂😂
And she will never find a partner either.
@@Mashy8722 he said he was. He said and I quote “I am planning on saving so I could get married and start a family!”.
Imagine what she’ll be like as a mother in law….😮
Lesson to be learned regarding the inmate who gave a serial killer the contact number of a woman…NEVER, EVER, under any circumstance in life, and even just ordinary people, give contact information to someone else without getting their consent first. Basic common sense.
My old man gave away my phone number to a woman in his AA meetings...without telling me about it until he'd done so. His reasoning? "Well, you said you like women...and she likes women too! You'll get along great!"
On one hand, thank you for thinking of my happiness. On the other hand, DAD NO! 😅
I still don’t understand why he couldn’t just send him the books. Are they forbidden contact?
@@Stella-lo2py lil confused but he got the . . . .spirit?
Yeah, I don't think she had a choice on wether or not keep going that bookclub
Not to mention, he may use the contact info as currency inside the prison. My dad knows someone who spent time in a high security prison and he said that happens all the time.
"This is why we help poor people".
Help? She literally garnished the girl's wages for the advance. It's not nothing, but it's also not generous or anything to be proud of.
She didn't even send the last pay cheque.
This is why I NEVER rate people who come from money - you don’t know if they got where they are by themselves… the rich privilege trumps everything
She should Sue!
The most difficult debt to pay is gratitude. It becomes a struggle to ask payment for what these people-who-once-helped-you-during-a-great-crisis owed you. You become the villain and get called an ingrate.
She should have been tutoring him, not doing his work for him.
That mom as out of her mind! As a parent of two adult children, being a good parent whose kids turn out good is the rewards. Stop thinking your kids owe you!!!!
The last video, the dad literally needed to spend MAYBE $20 to bring his son joy and he wouldnt even do that. Shows what kind of father he is. I wish all the best to the woman and her son!!
And he was recording her to post on social media for what??? That’s their private business, not the fucking internet. I hate this culture of sharing EVERYTHING to social media. He just made himself look like a fool, though.
@@lilscenechick1995Yeah that bit got me too. It's like he thought he was doing something there, making her look greedy and unreasonable rather than just making himself look like a broke, mama whipped loser of a dad.
Ah ha ha ha ha I loved that: "a broke, mama whipped loser of a dad." SO well said. @@obnoxiousbluebird6634
That deadbeat father story is unsettling. He might not be legally required to purchase a Xmas gift for his child, but he is morally bound to.
They both suck. Should he get his kid a gift? Absolutely. Is she being a dick when she trivializes the child support he is paying? Absolutely. He is paying $26,400 in child support per year. That is objectively a LOT of money (about a third of the US median household income). Conceivably part of the explanation why he is living with his mother and feels he can't afford to spend more money on his child. Calling it "broke boy money" and making fun of him for living with his mom, is gross. They both suck. Hard.
My dad didn’t pay child support for the first 9 years of my life. Only started after my mom took him to court. Now 20 years later he acts like he is such a good father and that he has always been there for me but I have never forgotten.
my dad never paid a dime... i didnt meet him until i was 33, on my behest. (my husbands father had passed and he and i decded i should meet mine since he was alive, and we did and it was weird) but. about a month after i met him, he asked to move in with us. we said ok as we had an extra room and he was struggling at the time. his wife and parrot soon followed, which was cool, i got to meet the woman who stole him from the woman who "stole him" from my mom (which btw never happened, they are both 17 and stupid and in the 70s) while he was living with me, i learned alot about myself, my mother, why things happened the way they did. it was healing. BUT THEN.... my husband and i got into a fight over something, and my father butted in using a dad voice on me. i spun around so fast and pushed my finger into his forehead and said, "dont you DARE use that voice with me... it has NO power here, you sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, this is MY house and you are a GUEST. i lived without you for over 30 years and dont thin for ONE second that i need yo in my life. you want to be a part, you follow MY LEAD. dont you ever try to use parental authority over me buddy, as far as you are concerned, IM YOUR MOTHER IN THIS HOUSE," his wife poked her head around the hall wall and said, robert, that woman is not kidding and she 100 percent right, get your ass to your room" he slinked away and about an hour later he came and apologized and said, "one thing ill never fault your mother for, she raised a warrior. im so proud to see who you are and sad to know i had nothing to do with it" i said, "you had everything to do with it, ive spent my whole life fighting for the right to be loved without feeling guilty and thats because of you, take it how you will. but this is all you" we dont talk much anymore, after they moved away, i lost contact and i wonder alot if hes ok
EDIT: after all the heartache and pain, why do we still hope they will just love us?
Same. Minus the eventual court order. I was a child in the 70's before support enforcement. He's almost 90 now. Bitches that other kids do things for their parents. If I start feeling guilty, I just remember what he said when he found out I was molested at age 4 by my step grandfather... "it wasn't that bad". Those experiences destroyed my childhood, altered the outcome of my entire future and destroyed my relationship with my entire family. But I guess he thought it wasn't that bad, to molest his 4 year old daughter. Unfortunately, some parents suck.
You are not obligated to play along. You owe him nothing. 💔
Yeah. It took me a while to understand my dad was “buying my affection.”
My father is a narcissist and has never once paid child support because my mom knew better than to ask him for it, as he'd probably claim I'm not his kid just to avoid paying. Now that I'm an adult, he thinks he's entitled to my time and my respect when he doesn't give me the same respect. Respect is earned, even with family.
The mother and son. Woah. My dad did that to me growing up too. I went to Japan as part of a sister city organization thing, and had to interview and fund raise for it. According to him, it was all his doing that I went. Not my hard work. And he never let me forget it, either. Even though, years later, the man running the whole organization basically told me that he hated my father and only accepted my application because of my attitude. Just...wow. I can't with this mother.
all of these stories are amazing ahahha
the one with the dad not wanting to get a gift for his son is so sad tho....does he think he has to spend a ton of money on a gift??? you could get the kid a $10-20 toy and he'd be so happy to get something from his dad. Even something from the dollar store he would be like wow thanks dad!
The last story, no he's not legally obligated to buy his son Christmas gifts but most parents are excited to get their kids gifts, especially at Christmas. He's a just a sour, bad human.
You can't make people do the right thing....if it's not in him to want a relationship with his son, then cut him loose, be glad you are getting child support and enjoy raising your son knowing you both dodged a f-ing bullet.
Honestly those kids need to be told that their dad did not, and what he used the money for instead. Stop sheltering your kkds from how bad the other parent is! Stop It People! They will ruin your child's life and they won't know it until later, when tik tok inevitably throws it into their face.
That father doesn't love his son. His son is just a bill he pays.
@@sicast916 Sad. Getting used to not gettng gifts from your family is a sad thing. also... Jehova witnesses are a cult.
@@pepeltoro444they’re totally a fucking cult. How do people not see that!
The sad part is, the baby daddy wasn’t just recording, he had the audacity to post it and think he was so in the right, others would support him and give him a standing ovation.
That was actually the best part. He was thinking "look at this Golddigger" and the world saw reality. He isn't a father he's a legal obligation.
Unfortunately, some men agree with him. That's why things are mess societally.
It's because they're angry that they have to pay child support. In their mind they contribute already more than the mother does. They make this a principle about the money. It's silly, because it's just two occasions per year, birthday and Christmas. By not getting a gift, even a small symbolic one, the child feels rejected by Daddy.
Sad part is baby daddy did get support from a lot of dead beat baby daddys
Disgusting men
That last one had my blood boiling, I am so glad she left him. She deserves so much better and so does their child! What a dead beat😱🤯
his logic "i paid child support" like??? and?! that's like if a dad who lived w his kids said "no xmas this year, i bought y'all groceries, clothes and paid gas for cars you ride in" which is already so sad but like... that's actually thousands of dollars at least - this guy is acting like 2k is anywhere close to the real investment of a parent. he probably wishes his baby momma & kid would just vanish off the face of the earth. and she is a beautiful caring mom who just wants her son to get a gift from his dad. she and her son deserve way better.... haha I'm pissed too
He makes a LOT to pay that amount. My dad made like 1200 bucks a week after taxes and his maximum was 88 bucks a week. He could not be ordered to pay more, because that was the maximum percentage allowed by law. Note he never mentions his pay, or that the 2200
Is a big chunk of his wages, because it isn't. He knows 2200 sounds big to most people, so he's letting some number do the walking to buy him sympathy. If he said "THAT'S LIKE TEN PERCENT OF MY EARNINGS!" Then everyone would automatically know that he's a miser that is so bitter he has to pay ANYTHING at all, that he's taking it out on the kid by not being a parent in any other way.
Parenting is SO much more than financial, and I'm sick to death of parents thinking they can effectively buy a subscription and never have to do anything else for the child THEY decided to have. @@MaidenHelll
@@MaidenHelllchild support is based on about 15%-20% of income depending on what state they’re in. It may be 75% of YOUR income but it’s only about 15% of his. He is definitely a deadbeat and just doing what court orders him. He doesn’t care about his son at all. His support pays mainly for daycare alone so mom is definitely putting in way more that 2200 a month.
He blatantly lied saying he couldn’t afford a gift, but was choosing to go buy an outfit for a party instead. He’s a piece of garbage. I do understand that having to pay child support can financially drain a person, but mans made a choice. All he cared about was himself. PRIORITIES PEOPLE.
I agree. He did the bear minimum and then acts like he should get a pat on the back. The default parent or main parent does that and so much more to make sure their child gets everything they need. Even if you don’t have money you have ways to make your child happy he just seems like he don’t care at all
18:33 Child support = Given to the parent who is currently responsible for the child in the eyes of the law, that money that would be spent on your child if you were an active participant in their everyday life (i.e. food, hygiene products, clothes that are needed, helping to pay for the roof over their head, etc.)
Christmas gifts = Specific items you yourself picked out to make your child feel special, loved, and happy. Even if they're just Spiderman or Barbie PJs.
That last video made me cry. She's begging him to give the boy a Christmas present and he says no. That's so heartbreaking, your own blood.
The worst people in my life are of my own blood. The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. I built my own family who love me and accept me for who I am. I do not get that from people to whom I am related by blood. It's been my experience people related by blood hurt you the most.
Just bc he pays child support does not mean he shouldn't buy his kid a Christmas gift. That is crazy. He is doing the bare minimum. Yes, he pays a lot, but from what she says, she has the child all the time.
And HES filming it… meaning he thinks she’s so wrong the whole internet is gonna side with him… the delulu is strong
@@shawnycoffman🙌🙌🙌 glad you know the proper quote.. it's often twisted as "blood is thicker than water" to manipulate people into accepting mistreatment and abuse from "family"
@@n.e9831 I know right? My own family has used that against me. Or tried to, anyway. 😏
The AUDACITY of his mom demanding she get all three options.
Also, imagine recording an argument about not buying your child gifts because you pay child support and actually think you are in the right.
Right, because his mom said. That mom was probably the same mum crying about his dad not helping him.. The BM literally said childcare is 2000 a month. What’s 200$? That barely gets you essentials and some fuel.
My mom would do the same. Parents like that are exhausting
She wants her son to have a happy Christmas without having to lie to him. I can't imagine what this guy thought he had to gain by uploading this video. 😮
Arguing over buying his son a Christmas present? What a deadbeat. His mother should be ashamed of him not encouraging him to be greedy and selfish. How disgusting. And he'll probably be confused when his son wants nothing to do with him when he grows up.
Nah, a guy like this will sit there blaming his “psycho ex” for “brainwashing” his kids into wanting nothing to do with him.
Does he have visitation rights or did she force him out of son's life and child support? If there is no visitation then he isn't a deadbeat but fulfilling legal obligations.
@@nickmoneyI was told if I take child support from my abusive ex he got visitation rights even if just supervised. I chose not to take him and he went to prison anyway. But 1. It's not always the girl. 2. If he's paying for child support he most likely has some type of visitation even if he's not choosing to be there for it. 3. I could be wrong this is just my personal experience. :)
Not every parent should stick around for their bio kids. I wish it was more normalized for like adoption/ showing genuine love it sucks when a parent doesn't want to connect or in a situation (a toxic relationship to the baby mama) but they also shouldn't like be dragged to be involved I guess. If they don't care, they don't care. Not everyone connects with their kids and other situations. When the baby daddy is dragged and guilted into a false interaction with the kid, it just...can create levels of confusion and hurt that isn't necessary. It sucks for sure. I'd rather be around people who want to be around me and not feel obligated to.
I say this as an adoptee that was rejected and accepted and it taught me the importance of feeling chosen in various ways. I don't know my birth father and I don't care to. I know my birth mom and I love her in my own way.
Dead beat dad's n ect, yea some of them are awful and can walk away from their kids easier but- why force your child to interact with someone who isn't emotionally interested. Not to mention the relationship between the mother and father can really speak volumes on why they can't work as a team or even why it's better they're not a team.
@@chelseykimrey5848 Depends on state and lawyers, a vindictive mother could have soul custody with no visitation rights but collect child support as well. Father might not want anything to do with son too and just fulfills legal requirements. Also fact ex was so aggressive means it was an abusive relationship most likely from her end towards him since he was so calm the entire time.
The first story though- “WAIT WHAT?!”. Your facial expressions were everything I was thinking!
7:40 mom is WAY too entitled to his successes. Like; as a parent myself who didn’t have a single bit of a normal childhood, I do not deserve NO PROPS, NO ENTITLEMENT, and ZERO CUDOS FOR MY CHILDRENS NORMAL CHILDHOOD AND WHAT I SACRIFICED FOR THEM. That was my choice to be a parent. The least I could do was do it gracefully and lovingly. I chose to make children. I chose to sacrifice and I did it all as a labor of love. Plus I had to buy my own damn car. And pay bills and take care of the house and my 14 other siblings as a teen. She needs to STAAAAHHHHPPPPPP
To be fair, I think good parents at least deserve to celebrate not raising a killer, rapist, or pedo. You never know if you did a good job as a parent until the kid reaches adulthood. Other than that, yeah, there should be no entitlement or that horrible gaslighting. I don't understand why some parents are like this. It's horrible, and they wonder why no one calls them in their old age.
@@MadMage1993 all three of my girls are grown. 20,21,&23. They are amazing wonderful kind people who always stand up for what’s right. No matter who is in the wrong. I’m so proud of them. But honestly, I feel like them growing into amazing humans is more the work they put into themselves. They worked hard to become great humans and I only guided them. My job was hard, it wasn’t easy by any means, but they did the most work. All I really did was talk to them like tiny adults and made sure they knew how to think for themselves. And how to have a voice. But thank you because I’m not the only one who thinks they’re just the bees knees
Definitely. And he should find his own place to live, probably far away from her, and then drop all contact.
@@dereklammers2977 absolutely!!!!
Okay hi I'm trying to figure out something ... so when my mother tells me her whole life was cut out to attend to my every need from year 1-3 ...
And when my father then tells me I started misbehaving when my brother was born and he already knew by my look that I disliked this sudden new family member ...
And when they blame me for the families problems because I was always different and was a malicious child that loved to act out control on all the family members to get what I wanted...
You're telling me that's simple parenthood tasks .... and not some great achievement they can cut down every argument with?!
Trying to frame his sister for their father's murder was bad enough, but I feel like if he so nonchalantly gave out her contact information to a serial killer, dude learned nothing at all while in prison and probably should not be released based on that information alone.
Yeah, sounds like he's never been very good with his thinking skills.
I have a friend whose ex husband is in jail and he's given her info to so many different inmates that don't have anyone on the outside. I've told her it's really dangerous for someone to do.
The mentality within jails and prisons don't consider the common sense of don't give out a female family member's contact info to your bros in custody. It's just such a weird mindset. I had to put an inmate's pictures of his kids in his personal belongings to take with him when he was released because it was a picture of a young kid in the bathtub. I couldn't believe the family member didn't even think it through like the amount of pedos in jail is enough to not hand out those types of photos. The inmate wasn't in custody for any of those kind of crimes, but I had to tell him after showing him his pictures, he couldn't keep them in his cell because there's too many creeps. 😅
Serial killer with a Wikipedia page! For some reason it just hits different.
@@jeaniebird999 Sounds more like a sociopathic case who has no conscience and doesn't learn that actions have consequences. Maybe that's why he was in a maximum security prison with other creeps like him.
The worst part of the videos with the father who doesnt like his own child enough to get them a small present, is that the child will be able to find them one day and literally hear their biodad say a new years outfit is more important than them. Absolutely heartbreaking
I almost cried when I saw that part 😭😭😭
I can't ever imagine my dad doing that to us, he literally does so much to make sure that me and my mom had good Christmas Presents, and this sicko won't even buy his kid a toy truck.
Some people are sick.
Sick, sick, sick.
emotional incest happens so much with mom/son relationships and that's on the mom. i don't owe you shit for keeping me alive--doing what is legally required is not a gift. we didn't choose to be born and if you can't plan for your future after having DECADES to do so, how is that my problem?
Parents who act like they deserve an award for providing for the kid THEY CHOSE TO HAVE absolutely astound me. You chose to have the kid, YOU took on the responsibility of their care and keeping until they were capable of doing it themselves, YOU are not entitled to anything in return. Kids aren't supposed to be grateful. We HOPE they are grateful for the things we provide them, the sacrifices we make to ensure they have everything they need and a lot of things they want. It shouldn't be expected. You shouldn't be keeping an invoice like your relationship with your child is transactional. Your entire job is to provide for that kid, period.
Exactly. It's not like kids are like "I consent to being born", they have no say in the matter. That makes it 100% the parents responsibility.
My mom told all 3 of us kids, we owe her $25k each, for raising us. She was also super abusive, clearly, so indont know how she thinks she deserves that much, let alone anything.
Salut tatie Charlotte j'espère que tu vas bien je suis présente pour cet nouvel épisode je t'aime très fort 😊❤
@@brianm4178 Did she pay her parents that fee?
@@breezy3392 oh of course not lol
Ironically, the first story sounds like the plot of a Jodi Picoult book.
😂😂You are absolutely right. It does sound like a plot from one of Jodi’s books. LOL
Haha good point lol
I'm going to start reading her books and see if my relationship with my MIL gets better 😂
@@notcomplicated000😂😂
Oh Lord. That mom using her son made me sick. Imagine thinking that your child OWES you for simply raising you and doing what is expected of parents. I hope he put his foot down and has started to cut those ties because it'll just get worse
Problem is he doesn't have healthy boundaries it's very likely that he will end up with an even more controlling spouse . He needs to go NC and start counseling
That poor man may be suffering a type of Stockholm syndrome. Imagine how much he could've done for himself in this time which is the goal of most parents to see their kids surpass them. Most of us want to see our kids thrive and have a better life beyond what we could give them. Not give us what they work for.
@@toritorittaja4394 I fully agree. Definitely could benefit from counseling.
@@grungydoll I could see him having a type of Stockholm, especially growing up with a mother like that. Dude needs to find a GOOD therapist, a very good therapist to help him work through all of this and learn to set and MAINTAIN boundaries with his mother
He is never gonna "find love" with this video out there. You could not pay me to go near this fmil.
The first one blew my mind. My friend used to be a prison guard, the emphasis she put on how you have to be SO CAREFUL about interacting with prisoners and the info you give them--because they've got connections on the outside, info travels fast, and people you love can wind up dead or assaulted. Fun fact though, she ended up being with a prisoner. Idk how that turned out.
Yoooooo that last dude was upsetting. He’s literally doing the legal bare minimum and basically saying I don’t care about that child. He’s an inconvenience and I don’t want nothing to do with him or even being a good person at this point. Actions speak so much louder than words. You chose to make actions that lead to these consequences. Own your shit, take responsibility, man up and be a parent. That child didn’t ask for this. And just because he doesn’t carry the child, doesn’t mean he didn’t had a choice in signing over his rights when he agreed to child support. He signed the birth certificate, he agreed to child support, he needs to be more of a man and act right.
Yeah. He’s angry at his ex, and he’s taking it out on his child.
This is my family TBH. Both of my families are like the 3rd ladies story. Generationally and independently wealthy, but uncaring aholes, unbothered entitled aholes. (Also, rich ppl are all on drvgs or drvnks I promise you).
So I went to stay with my aunt at 16 when my parents went on "vacation" to their home in France and I wasn't invited lol. Later found out later my mom went to stay there to have my twin brothers in France so they'd be dual citizens like me. I didn't know my mom was pregnant, I didn't see her for 5 months till they let me come. My parents were also in the midst if a divorce. It was messy.
My aunt kept telling me, a 16 yr old, how much she hated her children, and their father. That they were such a burden. I once woke up to my 6 MONTH OLD COUSIN* crying alone in her rocker in her nursery. Idk how long she'd been there, but I had to care for her and feed her. My aunt had fired another nanny for "being nosy." I went down from the 4th floor, I was so mad, a baby could have gotten hurt alone up there if she wiggled out of the rocker!! Only after searching the house did I find my 5 yr old cousin alone watching TV. I asked where her mom was and she said rolling her eyes that her mom was in the garage, she knew exactly what my aunt was doing at 5! I tried to open the garage, baby in my hands and it was locked. I unlocked it and my aunt was smoking weed in her car with some guy. I was MORTIFIED.
My aunt got mad at me for disturbing them. Admittedly my aunt is the most immature one of all the siblings. Shes almost 50 and still throws herself onto the floor having tantrums when she doesnt get her way. She has no job and leeches of my grandmother.
My aunt does nothing all day but get high and remodel her house. My mom and uncle have careers but are also terrible parents.
My mom dumped my twin brothers off onto me when they were about 8 months old to focus on her work again, thats like the 1 thing she cares most about. And I mean literally I raised them. My dad was an abusive alcoholic att and is still never around going on fancy fishing trips, etc. His parents fund his lifestyle and dont say anything since he almost died as a kid, they baby TF out of him still at 58.
My brothers honestly barely know my parents and are 21 yrs old now. 1 of them has HF autism and I put in a lot lf work to raise them the way I NEVER was. They both consider me their mom and my autistic brother has attachment disorder. Thankfully my husband is amazing and supportive. Weve known each other since Kindergarten and his mother is my mom friend but we both hated the lifestyle. The grass isnt greener on the other side trust me.
@@SaintShion That sounds ROUGH. I grew up with lots of money, but fortunately my mother was very down to earth, hated over-consumption and taught me to appreciate value in things. My father managed to blow all his money, the all of his inheritance, so he’s now bankrupt. I have enough, but I’m now disabled so, it won’t improve much… Mondays doesn’t make people happy. Having it reduces some stresses, but increases others. And no amount of money will fix a narcissistic parent.
Agreed. That guys was trash. And his mom telling him not to buy gifts for her grandbaby... Ewww!
Standard unfortunately
The last video is craaazy. The dude uploaded that video thinking he was in the right for refusing to buy his child a gift. Imagine having such a warped world view where you'd think that was a good idea.
I feel like most people miss in that last one. He’s complaining about giving them money for a Christmas gift or getting them a Christmas gift but he’s going inside to get a brand new iPhone and a New Year’s Eve outfit??? 🙄
He took pride in behaving like an absolute loser.
Yeah he clear gives no shit if his kids are happy or not. I'd love to see the comments on his video, but chances are there are just as many deadbeat parents backing him up
Living up to the stereotype
Right! He recorded her like he didn’t look foolish. Also there’s no way I would sit and argue practically begging a fool to buy my baby a gift. They both looked foolish. You pay your child support and when he ask “did dad get me a gift” I’d just say no but mom got you plenty so it doesn’t matter. Children grow up and understand who is an adult hole parent. And the parent usually regrets it when the child has low contact with them.
About the first story, Jody Pico or Picoult writes popular fiction which can be characterised as family saga. She frequently centers storylines on a moral dilemma or a procedural drama which pits family members against one another.
I'ma have to check her out after hearing how much those prisoners liked her books lmao
Apparently it can solve insane family relationship issues
Find the movie "My Sister's Keeper" (based on the book by Jodi Picault) and watch it!! It was such a great movie?!
The fact that that was the source material, how he DESTROYED their relationship with their father and the other inmates enjoyed it too....was mom being petty originally or getting advice
I LOVE you, @Charlotte!!!! Your videos are the best & I laugh sooooooo hard. It's total stress relief.
Loved that the last mom stood up for her son, she may not be able to convince her ex-husband to buy him a gift but boy did she give it a go, she can at least be proud of that
Hilarious how he thought “He’S dAh MaN!!!” By filming her trying to desperately get him not to abandon their kid like that.
I hope the kid sees through his dad’s crap in the future, and I hope the mom doesn’t protect ‘daddy dearest’s’ precious reputation :)
He sounds hopeless.
Poor son, but he should get used to the fact that his father does not care for him.
Child support doesn’t even make a dent in taking care of a kid. If she did use the money for gifts he would’ve had an issue with that too. I want to know what he thought he was doing recording her
Making himself look like a loser by the looks of it.
Trying to play the victim, but looking like a clown.
It looks like this may have a repost too, if you look at the caption. I'm sure there's Chadbro Alphamales who would be like: "How dare she ask him to buy his kid a gift!" - plenty of toxic guys who would side with the guy here.
@@DangerRavioli one guy did and when I told him all about himself he deleted his comment
@@DangerRavioli oh. It’s in my comment thread about this joke of a dude.
The last woman, my heart goes out to her. She probably knows the importance of feeling like the Dad cares, and the fear of what happens when she buys the gift and it comes out later, as it always does. Catch 22 understatement.
16:55 the cookies that brought your family together now crumbled everything 😂😂😂 sorry mom joke
LOL! This mother and son debate over who owes who what and why is just priceless. I am 61 and my son is 28 and I don't expect him to buy me anything. He has a life, job, home and a great girlfriend he needs to focus on and not me. I have always told him how much I love him and feel that he needs to focus on his life and not worry about me. Having and raising him was a gift enough for me. That is the greatest gift a parent receives.
Well said! I am also 61, and my daughter is 38. She makes me my favorite dinner on my birthday. I never want gifts. But this is her way to show her love and gratitude. She's told me this many times. 😊
Sitting down with her and my grandson makes my birthday special every year! 60 😆 was just another year older.
I feel the exact same way you do! 💜🤗✌️
My parents had 7 kids, I'm the youngest. My parents never asked for anything from us kids. The gifts we gave were from the heart. Many times, it was made by our own hands or was something unique we found. Never anything elaborate, but definitely from love.
I wish more parents were like this. You sound like an awesome mom. I'm sure you've made your son very proud.
The first story was BEYOND unhinged!!!!
Right OMG 😳
Those Jody Picko
books!
Sorry Jodi Picoult
Honestly tho kind of wholesome in a weird way 😂
Lol yup.
I hollered "what!!?" so loud.
But you know, store bought pesto, that's crazy...
@@TheFlowerQueen what?????
After she said "he shared contact information with a serial killer with his own Wikipedia page" I was absolutely not expecting the continuation of the book club. Lol
that's okay, that's fine, I've moved 124 states away by the time Serial Book Club guy gets out. no problemo. Lol.
I mean, he's not getting out. Also, he wants the books to keep coming. If anything, he'd want to protect his contact with the outside. So many men feel left behind and forgotten in jail. And truthfully after the first 5 years most ppl stop contract. One of my childhood friends made terrible terrible decisions at eighteen and got 15 years no parole. He was amazed at colorful cash. Tens had just turned orange. But I wrote him infrequently, when he'd pop into my head. In a lot of ways, prison is inhumane and should be illegal the way they do it. Grouping the inmates by age alone would stop so many horrific occurrences. I think every school bully becomes a corrections officer and they never grow out of bullying.
I really hope she doesn’t become one of those with savior syndrome (or whatever it’s called, happens a lot but I don’t think it’s under Stockholm Syndrome) where they start ‘BuT tHeY’rE jUsT mIsUnDeRsToOd!!!’ (Or under ‘they regret’)
They then fight for their ‘changed person’ to be freed from jail, cases I hear usually succeed, and when they do, guess who dies? Usually said Savior Syndrome person, and then several others as said ‘changed person’ has not changed in the slightest.
im not surprised. prison, esp max security, is extremely dreary and depressing and books and such are so controlled that being able to read fiction and talk with other human beings about it would be a major quality of life improvement. even a murderer can feel lonely. the brother was still stupid as fuck tho, giving personal information si such a dumb decision. there are safer ways to establish a book club for inmates
That mom is a horror show!!! He needs to run from that crazy ass woman. She will ruin any chance of happiness for him.
the way that the mom rolled her eyes when her son started talking about having his own family speaks volumes... she doesnt care .., she just wants him to stay with her until she dies. She will def be an insufferable mil to his future gf or wife
He will have to nove far, and set bounderis.
She will NEVER take care of any grandkids. She’s too selfish.
@@sharimshe will but will also demand certain things in return
@@kathydelarosa1286if he finds a woman who would put up long enough to get married and have children
For the first one: the fact that they could repair their relationship via books (or at all) feels like a good indication that the issue was NOT about killing their father, just the blame. It’s crazy how effective “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” fixes a ton of sibling fights.
Omg I didn't realise it first but yeah you're so right!!
So my guess is that they shared some trauma that no one but the other sibling can truly understand. Probably as children the consequences of making any mistake were absolutely terror, they were punished severely for any little mistake or inconvenience by their father. So blaming it on the mum was a ptsd survival response fuelled by the unimaginable fear of facing the consequences. Which the mom eventually understood, because she has the same fears..
I don't know, I could be completely off..
@@brendag6148 could be! My own theory was that their father maybe SA’d his daughter and her brother put a permanent stop to it. My main reason for thinking this direction is that it never says she served any jail time-and that would make sense if everyone thought it was self-defense. Brother may have banked on that so the deed could be done but no one would actually serve time. Idk.
Yeah I couldn't repair a relationship were someone tried to frame me for murder...That's insanely terrible thing to do to someone...
@@brendag6148 this was worded so perfectly.... I get it!! and yeah I think this makes total sense because any other person would have cut the brother off for life without question
My heart breaks for him. His mom shouldn't expect him to turn around and be her parent/husband/ entire world. He is absolutely right that that was her JOB as a mother to provide for him.
Ain't ain't nobody gonna talk about how it seems he's missing half skull? 😭😭😭
I dont have any skeletons in my closet....i finally just gave em the run of the house!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Child support dude wouldn't even be paying child support if he didnt have to. He makes it painfully obvious that he doesnt care about the child the both probably wanted to have. Its upsetting
Exactly! Buy your kid a damn present.
Her threat to take him to court to force him to buy a gift is ridiculous. He isn't legally obligated to buy his son anything. Some other comment above said it clearly - He has made it clear he is only going to do what he is legally obligated to do. He's a terrible father.
He probably wants to see receipts of how his money was spent.
@@lotstodo That I don't blame him for.
We dont know if the dad has split custody for the holidays... he could have already bought his gifts for christmas at his own house..
@@rolandhansen812 Maybe he knows it's not his kid.
Regarding that last clip: The mom is not only trying to help save the dad's reputation, but also help her kid grow up with a healthy sense of self-esteem. A child who grows up feeling like a parent doesn't think about them or care about them is going to have psychological issues as they get older. Kids especially will internalize these kinds of feelings, which will manifest into resentment and even self-loathing, making their lives more difficult and uncertain (Speaking from experience).
This! But you can’t teach a man child this.
This poor mother 😢 I understand how badly she wants to protect her son and make him feel loved, but there's no hope for it. Her son will know that his dad doesn't care at all no matter how hard she works to shield him from the truth. Kids are far more intuitive than adults realise. Kids know when they're genuinely loved and appreciated. They can feel it. I'm sure this little boy will appreciate his mother even more as he grows, knowing how hard she tried to give him everything he deserved. He's better off with just his mother and all of her love and care than having such a waster for a dad.
Making your kid's father look better than what he is will backfire on you later. As I had done this my daughter thought her dad had morals. Now don't get me wrong the man did make sure the money was there off the ideas I told him to do to make money. He is one of the best salesmen I have ever seen. With that said with my brain we did good. After we broke up she blamed my husband for why we didn't get back together. Not the two sisters in between her and her sister. We were together for 20 yrs. I found out about the two girls 21 to 22 yrs later. I knew that one maybe out there but when I did ask him he non-stop said no. At that point it was only a business relationship for me and I feel that the siblings should know each other. Which would have been good for her 3 daughter because she passed away young. I told him see if you didn't lie they would know they could have come to me instead of running around like lost girls getting with the wrong men. They believe he did more for my kids. The truth is I did more and demanded more. If I knew about them they would have got great gifts from him that I purchased. He did have 3 kids. Well 4 when was not biologically his but he did claim her as his daughter. They were taken from that mom. He did fight for years for them. The oldest got one visit from him that I went to so they figured I was his mom. One because he claimed me and the fact he looked like my daughters. So I went every weekend to see him on Saturday and Sunday. The third time he asked was his dad. I lied and said he could not make it. He looked at me and smiled. At this time I had been there 6 times or the third weekend there and at this point he knew I was lying to not have him sad. Unfortunately he remembers me saying I would do anything to give you joy in life. At some point his real mom came and unfortunately he beat her up there and how they found out I was the stepmom. So at first I couldn't come without the dad. But the only way they could control him was knowing he could have that visit with me so they let me come back. He apologize for getting so mad that he beat the mom up. I told him don't worry about it I same thing when you all were taken. She could have told the police to call me to come get all of you including your two sisters because I had the room, but she was so selfish she didn't. So I can't be mad at you. At that point he said thank you for trying to make me feel bad about my dad and thank you for keeping coming.
Yeah poor mother really, I can feel her heart breaking with exhaustion at this man who has the emotional depth of a teaspoon. Like… she is trying so hard to cover for his ass and he can’t even get the fact that she is trying to help him save his face and relationship with his own kid. He really doesn’t give a shit… poor kid. But maybe she should stop trying tho because there’s no way she can keep covering for him so it’s actually better if the kid learns the truth and starts making peace with it… idk, though situation.
Honestly brings tears to my eyes seeing the desperation to do the right thing for her baby boy
I love the second young man..Can't stand that toxic AF mother!!!!! She is disgusting and has went beyond a healthy parent relationship..Why would she look for a husband when she wouldn't be able to have a real relationship without toxic control!!!
And she EXPECTS her son to get her an extravagant trip, gift and party. Just because she heaved him out of her orifice. It’s selfish and greedy to think your child will spend their money for their future on your birthday. Entitled narcissist!
Did his mom say “who’s gonna take care of the baby?”
*what baby?*
When he has kids she means. She’s using the fact that he’ll use her for childcare to try to say he needs to provide for her and buy her all these things.
He needs to leave.
@@Suedepants100
I think my dude there is only having “jelly babies” tbh.
I love this topic you should definitely make more of these videos! I started watching mama’s boy on discovery and I just can’t believe the audacity of these mothers. I don’t want to watch but I can’t stop because it just keeps getting crazier and I love it❤
That child support Christmas situation made me sad. My mom and dad split when I was 2 months old. My father never had to be taken to court to figure out fair child support with my mom, he gave it willingly and consistently and we had our own whole holidays with my dad and stepmother, complete with presents on Christmas and Easter baskets, Halloween parties, Thanksgiving or leftovers if we weren't there that day. My parents really did the coparenting thing and my stepmother, RIP Deb, was the one to make that happen most cohesively.
This is how it should be. ❤ You were blessed to have such great parents & especially a wonderful step mom. Deb sounded like a beautiful person❤ My condolences. ✨
My parents split when I was 4 and my dad and stepmom would stay at my mom and stepdad’s house when they came to visit. My parents never badmouthed each other and would say they were both responsible for their marriage ending. I was so grateful to not have a toxic divorce situation with them.
@@Just-Nikki you are very blessed to have grown up in a loving environment 🩷
My mother is the exact same. She did the barest minimum, treated us children like crap, but expects us to bend over backwards for her for all she 'suffered'. I am older than the guy and I still am struggling because of her trying to make herself the center of the universe.
I'm sorry to read that. I hope you'll be strong enough to not let it ruin your own happiness in life. Sending love. 🤍
@ it's difficult. She actively tries any dirty trick she can to spoil anything good or positive in my life
@@RobinTimDrake I think, if I was you, I'd just get her out of my life. Hard decision, but some parents don't deserve to be part of their children's lives. I'm definitely not gonna judge your situation as I know nothing about it, I just don't want anyone to be hurt and disrespected unreasonably. 🥺 Really, I can only wish you the strenght to deal with it.
If dude is expecting her to buy gifts with the child support money I would take him back to court to get an increase and use this video that he made as a reference to why it needs to increased. At the same time my brothers dad did something similar when he was growing up. My mom didnt defend nor trash him, just kind of let my brother make his own conclusions and now that he’s grown they don’t have a relationship. It sucks but sometimes letting ur kids see who their other parent really is can be the best thing for them.
Hilarious how you add your face to all the pictures that pop up lol ...the mummy one... hilarious 😂... should of added the lips 👄 😂
"I pay for food and rent, and now you want me to buy him gifts for birthdays and Christmases?"
Jesus, poor kid. How's that supposed to make him feel?
That last dude....I guess if he had custody, it would be "I support him all year, he don't need a Christmas gift!" SMDH His mother probably thinks she is punishing the baby momma by doing that, but....(on a side note, if he is paying $2200 a month child support, he has to be making at least $8500 a month salary, states cap support at 20-25% of salary)
So there’s no reason he can’t afford to buy a single gift for his child. Smh.. awful
@@anicolewwHis mother is the only reason I see....
@@oldschooldiy3240 true 🤦♀️
That entitled, gold-digging Mom treats her son like she would any man she snared. As long as she is looked after first and foremost. Shameful. She even stoops so low as to take advantage of her son. He needs to 'get in the wind', and let her look after herself. Snap her into reality and maybe some appreciation of what her son has done for her.
At first I thought she was the wife.
Exactly, she's been given so much she has no concept of how much he has spoiled her and no appreciation.
@@lotstodo Haha! Well, I guess one never knows hey? I think it's worse the fact that he's her son.
I'm all for taking care of our elderly, but she's too demanding.
16:16 - Imagine Sylvester Stallone in First Blood: "They threw the first cookie, sir. They threw the first cookie."
He’s wrong, she’s not treating him like a husband, she’s treating him as an extension of herself. She does not think of him as a whole individual human being.
He needs to move far far away. Confronting a narcissistic person like this won’t do anything because they think they are right and you cannot change their mind. The only option is to create space, build your own life, and hope the pain of losing you is enough for them to seek out professional help and change. (Although it likely will not be)
Only after signing over all things that she has that you may have bought for her so you are not legally responsible as a party to the property or ownership and therefore liable for ANY costs associated.
This. Staying will just enable them because now they think "Oh, since they're sticking around I CAN'T be acting that badly!"
It won't though. Narcissists do NOT care as long as they have someone to benefit from. She's good at gaslighting. She's fine a man pretty quickly out there. Most sht women do! 😂
Unfortunately, narcissists don’t change. EVER! My MIL is a crazy narcissist, and unfortunately, her son, my husband, follows a bit in her footsteps!
That's what I was thinking. She thinks she's entitled to everything he has Just because she birthed him and raised him. She want crazy benefits for doing the bare minimum as a parent. These kind of people will never be grateful for anything, never appreciate anything you do and the moment you don't do one thing they ask, they guilt trip you by saying you don't care about them.
They will never change, speaking from experience. Nothing good is come out of such relationships, please stay away from people like this, doesn't matter if it's family. Honestly, it's worse if it's your family.
Jeeez that woman..It was my mother's 60th birthday like two weeks ago. She was a little dubious about me buying her more than one gift and the take out I ordered her. Then we just chilled on the couch all day.
New appreciation unlocked.
Whenever I watch Dr Phil I hug my mom after and tell her what a good job she did!
When I turned 60 a year ago, my daughter made me my favorite dinner. 💜
It's all I wanted. No gifts, just the company of her, my grandson, and mom. How entitled do you have to be to treat your child so poorly. 😢 I am grateful to have the love and friendship of my daughter for my birthday always. 💜🥰✌️
That's my dad😂 I said "let's open your gifts" and he said "gifts plural??" And made a face bc he doesn't like his kids spending a lot on him. He only recently actually started answering when asked what he wants for Christmas😂 always super appreciative 💚
I bought my mom a laptop because I had the cash and it would make her job easier, she was very greatful. Then I caught her looking at a sewing machine and she had mentioned she would like one to alter her clothes as fast as I could. (She could hand sew but I could hem her pants in 10 minutes) I got her the pretty sewing machine with 60 different stitches and she was greatful but said "Baby you shouldn't spend so much on me. You just got me the laptop and you got your own bills." So I had to downplay the sewing machine, like it's not even the one I have. Much cheaper and I got it on sale. Then she finally took it and was so happy setting it up. She very much has the attitude that it's nice to receive gifts from her kid but I don't owe her anything more quality mother daughter time.
As a fan of Jodi Picoult, . . . she writes from an often uncomfortable POV.
She tackles very uncomfortable issues with a "how did we get here?" approach rather than simply tagging a character as "the villain".
That means you should not read your first Picoult book on an e-device, you will inevitably throw it.
You must finish a Picoult book, or it will haunt you.
And schedule a recovery period, it will overwhelm your thoughts for a bit.
Absolutely! JP is not a fluff read by any stretch.
I mostly agree with you, but sometimes her messaging gets a little muddled with “avoiding” having a bad guy. And she adds a lot of “fluff” in some cases that distract from her point.
For example, the sister’s keeper. The lawyer having this thing where he tells people different things about his dog. Or that her brother is a fire starter.
Or where the PP shooter took care of his daughter and all the “details” that he was proud of… while she’s trying to walk this line of applauding him and single-moms-do-it-every-day
I do like that she experiments with structure (stories in a story, told backwards, etc)
But she tries too hard sometimes that a literal nazi isn’t so bad because he’s a good guy now. Or a PP shooter is just frustrated that his daughter almost died (and yet it was his own bad parenting that led to her naïveté about how sex works and how pregnancy works and how abortions work and she hadn’t gone to the clinic at all.)
(Also, that nurse that called the cops on her… death to her. That character should be drawn and quartered.)
The Pact is what got me.
@@MissSeedyomg yes! I read The Pact as a teen and began devouring her books and any author like her.
Exactly! Good analysis!
I love the crazy family lore people have like this. I don't have anything too crazy but these are always hilarious and crazy to watch.
My parents divorced when I was 5 and my lil' sis was 3. My dad paid off the entire child support in one go upfront with extra to boot. My mom tried to go through courts several times in the years afterwards to get more. Got shot down by the judge every time (she was a wonderful mom btw, no issues there) and still my dad sent us birthdaygifts and Christmas gifts every year even though it was a fight-divorce. There's no excuse for not giving your kids gifts. And it isn't about the gifts, it's the remembering of the gift giving. Those kids are going to remember this about their dad. :( forever.
How did he do that?! My son’s father pays $500/month. My son is 6 now, so that would be $6,000/year x 12 years (not including the past three years he’s paid). That’s $72,000 in one payment!! And $500/month is on the lower end for child support. It used to be $50/month…
@@Tree_fairyI’ve heard a few cases of a parent who have been able to write lump sum checks for child support but from what I’ve heard that it really isn’t the most encouraged option because of potential payment modifications are always lingering in the back. I’m guessing mom/dad has the extra cash handy go for it but don’t get mad when there is a need to drop more money
@@idjilju2835 the judge also took in account my mother remarried and she started her own company with the money from that payment which generated income
That man needs to go low to no contact with his mom. She doesn’t respect him. Oh man that was a hard HARD watch…
As the only child(daughter) of a single mother who has bpd...I can (unfortunately) confirm that there are parents out here who parentify and "spouse"- cify thier kids. We are expected to be child, parent, best friend, punching bag, etc. It's truly exhausting. They will find every excuse to guilt you into doing everything for them to "prove you love them". I hope that young man gets support and sets some healthy boundaries.
"mommy, where's daddy's christmas present!" "oh no sweetie! he gave me money for the cereal you had this morning! that's your present!"
Child support is the MINIMUM amount of parental responsibility that one owes to their child. Birthday gifts and Christmas gifts are separate from the basic day to day cost of raising a child. She just explained to him that childcare alone was $2,000! If my ex didn’t want to buy our kid a gift, fine. I’d be honest about it. “Dad didn’t buy a gift for you, I’m sorry sweetie.” Dad would have to answer for it when the child grows up.
My ex played this game. He said “if you want them to have the gifts we bought them, then go buy the same gifts”, “nobody’s gonna want you, you have two kids”, and “what I do with them on my time is my business, and what you do on your time is your business” I never begged, pleaded or whined, those three statements made me who I am today. My now husband came into our lives when they were young and did not want just me, he wanted all of us. He is the one they call when they want or need their dad. Every Saturday, when our grand baby lays in my arms I think “this is absolutely my time”.
I'm in the process of divorcing my husband and fighting for custody of our son... I fully expected to struggle to find someone who would want a woman with a toddler. Turns out, a friend of mine was already wanting to take on the role of step-dad after watching me struggle to get my ex to care about us. And he has completely jumped in with both feet, learning to change diapers and everything.
I like how that guy is fully aware of what his mother is and is not afraid to tell her but he desperately needs to set boundaries.
Exactly. He’s talking about being married one day but I don’t think he understands that no woman will put up with all that. The mom will make sure she stays single so she won’t lose her supply.
Boundaries won’t even cut it. That man is going to have to fake his own death and leave the country to ever get out of the claws of his narcissistic mother.
@@spicymayo623 Exactly! My ex was a momma’s boy, it was a NIGHTMARE especially since he had no care or awareness about how the situation was affecting me.
This man needs needs to break up with that mother, she needs to love her son and prioritise him but I don’t think this kind of people would ever do that.
I need to take a minute to appreciate the passed at the end of the 3rd story lol when Charlotte says I would have told the school I wrote all his essays.. The way the video paused on the girls face.. It's like yup that what im going to do lol 😂
A little note to parents who pay child support: that money is for day-to-day living expenses. It's for rent, utlities, clothes, food, childcare (if they're younger), etc. It is NOT for gifts, birthdays or Christmas. It does not replace spending time with your kids.
Yes, kids are expensive. Think about that before you lay down and have one. But it takes two to have them, so it takes two to raise them. If you don't want to pay for a child, buy gifts, for a child, spend time with a child, then the answer is simple - don't have a child. Contraception exists for a reason. Damn.
Or just keep it in your pants. I know. It’s a groundbreaking, shocking and novel concept. I simply chose not to be involved that way with anyone I did not have a relationship with or who I couldn’t see being a stand up guy if something did happen. For the ladies, if he is not marriage material, just say no. No man worth your time will think less of you for saying no.
EXACTLY
@@TheBaumcm I agree completely with you and think that's the exact answer for people with intelligence.
The reason I only mentioned contraception (instead of including abstinence) is that the people that need to hear that message are not people with intelligence and self control, like yourself.
The guy in the video was more interested in getting an outfit for NYE so he could go out, party, and probably get someone else pregnant. The message of abstinence will never get through to someone who prioritises getting laid over their obligations and responsibilities. For those people, contraception is the only message that stands a chance of getting through (&, even then, it only normally works if you list the horrific STI symptoms they might end up with, rather than the creation of a life they will care nothing about, sadly).
idk hes paying 2200 a month. thats far more than i make in a month. in this specific scenario shes coming off really entitled when hes already paying so much. he explained he cant afford gifts this year and thats fine. hes not obligated to give things away when he cant afford it. ive had many a year my dad struggled and didnt give gifts out and same with my mom. gifts shouldnt matter. the holiday is about being together and being kind.
@@LionWithAGun The child support amount would have been decided by a court and based on the earnings he declared, so $2,200 will not be an unaffordable amount for him. But, in all honesty, that is not the issue.
She had to go to him because he ignored the child on Christmas. It's not about money, it's about showing the child you care. Just because the court doesn't mandate that you show love to the child, that doesn't mean that you're not morally obligated to. Showing up, taking him out as a gift (to the park that will cost you nothing), making him something, or buying him something from the dollar store. All of these are acceptable - but he did nothing. This isn't about money, it's about him not caring.
"He explained he can't afford gifts this year", but he also said he was there to get a new phone and buy himself a new outfit for NYE - so he has the money, he just doesn't care about son. There is no way he can get a new outfit and a new phone and not have a dollar to buy a small toy or pack of sweets/candy.
You said "the holiday is about being together and being kind". I agree. The mother said her problem was the she was going to be the one to have to explain to the child why his father hadn't bothered, indicating that he wasn't going to be there. So if he isn't going to give him time, she was merely asking for a token for the child so he didn't feel unloved. If the father was doing *anything* other than court-mandated child support, the mother would not be there. She even said that neither him not his family bother with the child. That's my problem with him - he is not stepping up and being a father.
I can somewhat relate to the third story. When I worked at Target while in college, a mom told her very young son “this is why you go to college, so you don’t work here”. The irony… some people have no clue
Lmao my friend worked at target when she was like 18 and when she was checking the woman out they got to talking about paying for college as she was going thru that too and the mom made some offhand remark about not wanting her sons to marry a woman with a lot of college debt like her lol something like along those lines, so rude! Some ppl have no manners and are just so out of touch with reality, like not all parents can afford to pay for their kids entire college educations and need to take out some financial help
The second guy is a text book definition of parentification.... she should be paying for his therapy.
Also, I'm glad that you looked up those cookies, they look amazing.
The last situation was so sad, you can see that the mum is trying her best to protect her son
He is MORALLY obligated to buy his child something for Christmas or he needs to volunteer for a viscetomy.
So many people think child support is basically paying the woman to raise the child. That is not what it is. I'd make him have custody for a couple years and pay child support to him. That'd make em learn quick. No wonder she divorced that loser.
Except that would only hurt the kid to teach an idiot adult what they should already know.
Agree with the philosophy but not the reality.
If you actually have kids and cherish love them and want the best for them, then NO you wouldn’t make him take custody for a couple years. Like NO YOU WOULD NOT
If child support would be "paying a woman to rise the child" none of those morons would be able to afford it for real...
...honestly props to the mom for having book club with a serial killer. Given the state of our prison system she's probably actually helping a lot of people with that.
Right??
I was a single mom of 4 sons after divorcing their father due to DV. I worked 96hrs a WEEK half the year so my sons never experienced housing, food, or clothing insecurities. All my sons are in their 20's now. The ONLY two things they owe me is to be happy and successful. Success can be different for everyone.. the eye rolling, etc. says she has ZERO respect for her son.. It sounds like she doesn't work either..
I would absolutely cry if my sons bought me a house or car and i would never ask for another gift ever. You know when they ask what i want for my birthday or Xmas, i already usually tell them to not worry about me, and just save their money. I would probably pass out if someone brought me a house or a car for real . 😂❤
When I’m feeling bad about myself for something i didn’t do I come on TH-cam to watch you’re videos to feel better..
The aunt needs to divide up the cookies and give them to specific recipients as part of their Christmas gift. You've lost your communal cookie privileges
I got the “secret” recipe and made those “rainbow”cookies *(once.)* They literally took hours to finish.
*It’s “Toll House” choc chip dough in a roll IF Xmas cookie baking is ever a thing again in the future!*
I truly thought she was going to say her aunt revealed Nona's recipe was actually cookies from a tiny secret bakery in a neighboring town. It probably would've been less traumatic tbh.
When i was little, my dad had moved my mom n all us kids from Texas to maine, n then abandoned us... every year on birthdays n christmas, my mom would buy extra gifts n tell us they were from daddy, so we wouldnt get our lil hearts broken, thinking daddy didnt love us... the single coolest thing ive ever heard of a mom doing, so completely selfless!!!! She didnt even get child support either!
She is the MOM Period! A parent is to not EXPECT anything from the children. You know you raised them well if they reciprocate on their own accord when they get older. ALL I expect when my children get older is to call me once a week to check in and make sure they are alive. I will always support my children no matter how old they get. If they are like him and have a house, car, etc., and need help with anything from watching a kid to needing toilet paper, I will be there for Free and provide them with whatever they need. THAT IS A PARENT!
I absolutely love all the movies you quote on your shows. Subtle but loud to anyone in your age group. I think we grew up watching similar things because I get it! Be grateful Ana!. I think I've heard you quote ferngully, massive Disney and Pixar classics, definitely jim carrey... and it's a great indicator of a cool personality!
Love the guy filming his baby mama yelling at him to get his kid a gift like he thinks he's in the right. Just say you don't love your child
THIS. ALLLLL of THIS.
They're both crazy.. and I'm pretty sure the kid is in the back seat as they argue about this.. terrible parents. Smdh
@@RavenAvry13 I highly doubt they are because the whole point of her arguing with him about him getting a damn gift for their kid is so the kid doesn't grow up believing their dad don't love or care about them. Like there is no reason during those videos to think she is a terrible parent. She is arguing on her child's behalf to ensure they don't feel abandoned by a parent who to us clearly doesn't give a flying fuck about their kid.
@@RavenAvry13No, the idiot thinks that MAYBE paying child support and not showing a child love is being a parent. His mom is encouraging him to behave as his biodad probably behaved. The mother of their child is trying to break this generational neglect.
@@MommahKat Exactly. Poor kid wil know dad doesn't love him at all.
Uh. No. That son should say nope. One present. Or tickets to something. The fact that he knows she’s a narcissistic is a bonus. The fact that he knows she’s a gas lighter. He won’t be able to get or stay married with a mom like that. You don’t get a medal for being and doing a the basics of being a good parent. You owe her nothing. Period.
The word for a man who won't buy his son a gift is not "delulu," it's "garbage."
The word for a Woman getting $2200 in child support and expecting more is Entitled
@@TheSnakehunter that's diff that's necessities and living expenses, not Xmas gifts. So he's not gonna eat, go to daycare, engage in whatever extracurriculars, have every day clothes, meds, etc just to get gifts from his dad? Foh. She's right. 2200$ is broke boy money and if u think that's enough to raise a kid ur sadly mistaken
@@deeparao-tw2oe $2200 is more than enough for 1 child. She needs to get a better job. Stop defending clowns like her
@@deeparao-tw2oe $2000 for daycare is not a necessity. The average cost for daycare for a MONTH is just at $1000. So where is the other $1000 going? Probably her hair and nails.
0:38 I’m already going to beg your absolute finest pardon madam ??????? My jaw is on the FLOOR what a hook
I'm so happy Charlotte showed the clip with the guy and the mom because it's a situation that isn't talked about enough, so obviously me and my siblings love our parents because despite the narcissistic moments we had to endure they held us up when we felt down however as we grow into adulthood we learned how to deal with the ups and down and were creating our life on our own. Our parents would as much as they can hit us with the "We raised you so do this" or "I did this for you so you should.." At first, we all fell for it until we started getting into disputes that they themselves caused, and everything seemed to be our fault. I remember the moment me and my siblings and I looked at each other and just busted out laughing at how tiring and bizarre this whole thing is, it felt like a weight lifted off my shoulder. Seeing other people's stories on social media taught us that parents in general made a choice to have kids wether accident or on purpose (Not talking about SA) so they're are the ones to take care of us as we arent able to now as we get older, parents have to let us go outside so that we enjoy and learn as they also got to at their age, I wish I had know this sooner but it is what it is, we put our foot down and they would bawl and whine until they realize we weren't budging and now they're given up on controlling us and would occasionally say how proud of us they are. It's bittersweet, but that's okay. My parents weren't bad people. They just felt more acclaimed to things they shouldn't, and we still love them despite how insufferable or odd they are. However, I hope that video and this comment reach to anyone who feels like giving up or is exhausted like we were and know lots of things fade with time and you will be okay❤
Long story: I was working as a house keeper, nanny, dog walker, mommy helper, bartender at private parties. I didn"t work for agencies, i had my own clients. The money was good and i got the weekends off. One family i'll never forget, the husband and kids were super nice. But the wife... she was a narcissist. She is the kid of rich people that treats u badly and she won't even notice. Like, it's normal to her, that's the way she is. She asked me to work only for her, and she convinced me cause she seemed so nice. One thanksgiving she asked me to work and i said yes. My job was 9am-5pm. That day i stayed until everyone had dinner and i did a lot. I cooked, i set the big table, i cleaned the house. Washed dishes, pots, took out the trash, everything. And i stayed till 10 i believe. When everybody was at the table she called me and say "ok everyone, let's thank her for dinner, she cooked", that was weird , but whatever. Then she says "And Lucy is a single mom, she has a daughter, so whatever clothes your kids don't use anymore, give them to her". I didn't say anything but my face did. And i think her guests noticed. And if the didn't it's cause they are the same as her. When i was about to leave she handed me my money and said "oh, and we want to give u this extra, cause u worked so hard today". I was surprised cause she counts pennies, she never gave me anything extra before😂 and when i saw how much she paid me, i was like😠 Cause the money she gave me "extra" was exactly what she had to pay me for the extra hours i worked. But in her mind, she tought it was ok to pay me 13 hours of work as if i had worked 8 hours. And then i had to be thankful cause she gave me "extra $". Like i said, they don't even notice when they're being shitty. After that i never make extra efforts like i used to while at work. And one day i guess she was having a bad day and started her bs and i was like "no thank u". And left.
That’s exactly what I just went through with a lady that owns the winery I work at. I’m struggling, most ppl are. When ppl do things , just to say that they did. Or to brag …. I don’t need anything from you 💯
I only need , what I worked for . I don’t need your pity or advice. I hate the psychological hoops that society expects you to play , just to have a job nowadays. 😢 ppl are crazy 😂
And I need that job , it’s the last one I have left but this lady is a nut.
I also quit a job last week , because girls were bullying me. They trashed some of my personal property, lady Gaga lip gloss and other things. I’m 36 , I still look young , it causes me issues. I’m a happy person, that’s also causes issues 🤷🏼♀️😂
Don’t let anyone put you down. No one❤
Child support isn’t Christmas gift fund…it’s to make sure the child can live. Presents are extra
A few of my friends disappointed me because they spent the CS on themselves. The only one who didn't, was my friend John, he went without for his son.
also what parent doesn't want to get their kid a gift? hell I don't even really like kids but if I get to know a kid I love getting them gifts of some kind, even if it is just something small. it's fun to shop for them.
I remember one Christmas about 35 years ago, my deadbeat dad FINALLY sent my mom a "check for Christmas gifts" for my younger sister and me. When my mom opened it he had written on the back of the $40 check in capital letters "CHILD SUPPORT". My mom did not even bother to change it and gave it to support enforcement who finally had the info they needed to go after him for child support. It's kinda funny that's what he wrote on the check and that check was the reason they garnished his wages to send to my mom. I LOVE karma!! 😂
P.S. that was the last "Christmas present" we ever got from him 😂
@@folkloreofbeing I know someone whos sister did that. Luckily the grandparents took in the first child, don't know if the second child got also taken away but it is really sad to hear about people who do stuff like that. Like how greedy can people be?
That dude is was an absolute idiot, and an a-hole
First story is wild lol. I stopped reading fiction years ago, but Jodi Picoult books were some of my FAVOURITE.
I’ve been there with a deadbeat. I didn’t and couldn’t see myself arguing with him like this because he was neither worth the time nor the oxygen. He was never there and OUR child knew it without me having to do or say a word. He sent a card at their 16th birthday and I asked what it said. The response was “16 years! There’s nothing to say now.”
My beautiful child figured it out all on their own. They got all the love and support needed without him.
The last one is HELLA TRIGGERING bc I went through the same thing with my daughter's father. Thank God I had the strength to stop telling him what she needs and just worked harder and provide it. Also it's not choosing bad guys it's *when you meet someone they will never show you their true colors. No one shows you their bad side until some thing drastic takes place* now my daughter is 10 and she just flats out tells him what she needs. And when I stopped asking him he started giving her. But I just tell her to spend it on what ever she needs bc it's of no use here😂
Why does the son take on all those things for his mom rather than her doing for herself? This idea that anything a woman wants MUST come from a man is insane! Just because she was a good mother doesn't mean her son must pay for everything in her life because he's finished school!!!
I guarantee she also makes it hard for her son to date because she'll demonize his partner or scheme to keep them apart
emotional abuse / enmeshment / his mom is a predator
I recently discovered your channel, and now I can’t stop watching. 🤣🤣🤣