Documenting ASUS' RMA process would be nice. A company's true colors are revealed when you go through the standard channels without any inside connections.
In my RMA experience with Asus they did well, when my strix 2080ti started artifacting they replaced it with a working gpu, the process took 3 weeks total and it was around christmas time I am a happy customer... definitely would be interesting to see the process again though
So far, best one I had was EVGA. Had an issue with a 1000w Supernova. Messaged them, with a video of whats wrong. No questions asked, they sent me a 1000w platinum because they ran out of the same 1000 g2 that I had. They sent it fast from evga germany to uk before asking me to send the broken one so I can be up and running immediately. Worst one's are gigabyte and msi. Had issues with both. And support will keep pushing you and delaying you. Telling you that it might be your fault etc. Etc. Until you just give up and they win. Ever since then, I try avoid those two and just use evga for brand new stuff. Unless if I buy used at a decent price.
+1 for documenting the RMA process. You've got time, 4000-series ain't happening in the next month lol. Best guess is towards the end of the year like normal. Might as well milk the content!
It should be fine. That waterblock is a good enough heatsink to last long enough to boot for a few seconds and during a bios update its not doing much but its definitely not a good idea.
@KrazyRyzenPC He did not. He said he tried to do a flash in the past and it failed, so when he powered it up it was trying to finish the flash he tried to do months ago. But either way it was risky, if the graphics card is dead with no signal I would not be trying to update a bios blind, sounds risky.
I don’t know whats happening with Kyle. He is not the same as before his divorce (which is understandable of course). He does more stuff that fails or go wrong nowadays. Sad to see. Hope he is alright and wil be the same as before soon.
I have this motherboard with a 3960X. It has BIOS flashback and Dual BIOS. His troubleshooting steps are terrible. To properly troubleshoot this, you need to get the board to a respectable state, meaning put an air cooler on it with a fan connected to the CPU FAN header. The motherboard will not post without a fan connected to the CPU FAN header or plug the gpu loop holes, fill the loop, and use the liquid cooling properly, remembering to connect one of the radiator fans to the CPU FAN header. Next, clear the CMOS. I have no idea why that wasn't his first step. The board has a CMOS reset button on the rear IO so he didn't even have to jumper any pins. The motherboard should now at least display a screen saying "Press F1 or Delete to enter the bios". It doesn't even need a storage drive to post. If you do try and post without a storage drive after entering the bios and rebooting it will give a post error saying incorrect drive or no drive detected. If at this point it still won't post, switch over to the second BIOS using the internal BIOS Switch, clear the CMOS, and start the system. I had an issue with the latest BIOS firmware 1603, that wouldn't allow me to disable the onboard Intel 1GbE LAN and WiFi controllers without going through a CPU Code 7 error followed by a TEST CMOS error. Asus was able to develop a new firmware and send it to me. The special BIOS worked perfectly! There's no reason to RMA this board at this point, just better troubleshooting. Also, these boards haven't been made in over a year, if you want a new one, you'll be paying over $1100 for a new one.
I've been building systems for many years (too many, maybe). Much as I enjoy trying different ideas and types of builds, I've just never been able to get excited about liquid cooling. It adds unnecessary complexity, weight, risk, and cost to a build. It makes no sense to me whatsoever, and I can't understand why some folks think it's a good idea. I'd rather spend the money earmarked for all of that pointless equipment on better components. But hey, that's just me and what do I know? The world would be a pretty boring place if we were all the same.
TBF as much as i can agree with your point, some people take PC Building as "Art" and who wouldn't want to perfect and beautify your "art" especially if dont really need another PC component and just wanted to invest in on single PC, provided you have excess money for your hobby? Personally i find the metal tubing and the glossiness + the way the pipeline structured is pretty cool, but i personally wouldnt really build it, as you said, its costly and weight a lot. Risky part, i would say pretty subjective, i heard there are coolant that are non conductive and stuff (Too lazy too fact check) so it doesnt immediately short circuit as easy. And AIO Liquid has very low chance of leaking. Complexity is depending on what material you use for pipe lining, some require more tool and kit to setup and some just Plug and fill it with water. One more thing, Liquid cooling DOES have many more potential than Air Cooler in term of efficiency (Smaller AIO Cooler might perform the same as beefy air cooler, im using NH-D14 while i love the cooler but it take so much space for my ram slot that it limited the choice that i had, and its pretty heavy)
I agree with you! On my old computer I decided to custom watercool, and it was fun building it and learning, but maitenance was a pain in the ass. I decided that I would never do it again, only AIOs at most from now on.
Depends. I have tried 3 ways, high tier components but are all reference design with loud air coolers. Or high tier components with top tier custom pcb design with eye candy custom cooler and aesthetics. Or high tier components with water cooling with ek. Hands down aesthetic wise water cooling looks beautiful. And very silent offering great cooling. Followed by the pc build with top tier components. i.e. a build compose of all asus rog parts as an example. Then the last one, high tier components but mostly reference designs and usually run hot and loud. I.e. inno3d, zotac, etc. And some cheap mobo. Now the issue with watercooling in my experience. 1: it cost a lot of money, I have tried it. And for real it eats a lot of cash. As you said, Id rather add that money to a top tier gpu. But hands down, aesthetic wise it looks the best. At least for me. So far I have done 5 watercooling builds. Two times hard tubing, 3 times soft tubes. Never again. The rest are air cooled. 2: when it comes to cleaning the loop and refilling new liquid. It is a right pain in the buttocks. Specially with busy work schedule. You have no time. Like legit sometimes you just wanna go home, turn on the pc and play. As you get old, you might have the cash to buy the pc of your dreams. But you lose the time you once had playing pc games when you were young simultaneously. 3: it can be a pain upgrading stuff, as everything is in a loop. So now I mostly just build air cooled systems. And just make sure I got good cpu cooler. (Got a short video of my current system, and happy with that now) And a gpu with good custom design that runs max 65 celsius under load while running very silently. good example. Rtx 3080 or 3090 from zotac runs at 71+ under load and it is like a hurricane in a case. Now the same rtx card from msi suprim or asus tuf or rog, full load at 4k, max 65 celsius and barely hear it. And they look nice, easy to clean, easy upgrade. But yeah, once you tried. You will know the pros and cons. For now sticking with all aircooled!
I guess it depends what you want out of the build. I watercooled my PC for a few reasons. 1) it's super quiet, my fans never ramp up , I can't even hear them and max temps get to like 50C. 2)Because of the lower temps, I have better performance since my gpu can boost itself higher, same with cpu. 3) I really like the look of it, it makes it feel more custom and look really cool, plus it's fun to do. As for using the extra money on better components, I wouldn't bother watercooling lower tier components. When I started watercooling, I went with a 2080 ti since it was the top end at the time, cpu is a 10700k, because a 10900k really wasnt that much better. Some people have mentioned maintenance being a pain, honestly there hasn't really been much maintenance, I run distilled water, no coolants or dyes, so there's no buildup to clean out etc. The only times I've done any sort of maintenance is if I want to change up my loop, or when I've added a bigger radiator or res. But honestly redoing my loop is part of the fun for me.
That tier of board should have A> bios flash back and B> dual bios chips. I expect dual bios chips on any board that costs over $200, I had a $60 AM2+ board that had dual chips so it's not unreasonable to expect it on much higher end boards also.
Wait are we talking about the grey white and pink build? the only thing I recall happening there was the sleeving issue and not having it plugged into pdwm... ohhhh you mean his 2nd build ever, the SFF Manta build... and the dum dum moment. Yea oopsies.
I loved this because I just started a job as a customer service rep. It’s very cool to see your experience and I’m intrigued with how the refurb pans out!
needs more troubleshooting, try swapping around your memory sticks and make sure that's not it, make sure the cpu is cooled, and don't forget to have storage installed, that might be the cause of that post error (considering it shows a HDD logo on the error)... Just a thought
If I recall correctly EK has pretty much tried to standardize fitting placement with there matrix 7 system (and they were already doing that a bit in the past) so you might only need extensions to fit any RTX 4000 series cards
Did you try connect a drive (SSD) to it and check if you still have the error? The POST error has a drive icon over the text... Maybe removing the drives you previously configured in a RAID is preventing it to boot correctly? You may also try to reset the CMOS to fix that issue.
Stick with the RMA process is the way to go. A video if you can with the any problems or the whole experience with Asus RMA department, would be great. Or even an overview of the replacement board. Ps. Have a nice time in our country. Eat well stay hydrated beware the sun and have a save trip back to your homeland!
Everytime I come back to this channel I land on a video where Kyle has Bricked the BIOS of a motherboard! This is actually surreal. I can't believe how this man has killed so many motherboards. Kyle, you stand alone on this planet as the person who has single handedly destroyed the most motherboards without even trying.
That post error seems to relate to the lack of HDD, there was also a white LED lit up where the HDD_LED Debug LED is. I've had this issue before after doing a BIOS flashback and it wanted a drive installed to read before it would successfully boot.
Too bad about the borked BIOS, even more about the malfunctioning GPU. Would like to see if the replacement finally breathes life into Chromethius - a fine system like that deserves a new lease on life. Looking forward to future content on your chromy-boi! Chin up, Kyle! Everyone messes up sometimes and BIOS updates still give me heart palpitations today.
Doesn't that board have dual bios? Could have just switched to the secondary using the bios switch. I had a Rampage V Extreme board where the primary bios chip randomly stopped working (Error code 79) and was able to switch to the secondary to get it to post. I later ordered a replacement bios chip online and swapped it out without issue to restore redundancy. But hey I look forward to your future RMA experience video.
Maybe a combination of the two options: Contact your rep at Asus to ask for a refurbished unit of the same board, then return the two broken boards that you have. It's essentially the RMA process, but you wouldn't feel guilty about Asus sending over another brand new board.
Are you sure an SSD installed while trying to POST? it had an HDD logo during the post error and it's possible that it aborted when it realized there were no flash drives or storage volumes attached. Granted you would expect it to display out and go straight to BIOS but I've seen some motherboards behave that way.
I had an interesting failure of hardware about a year ago, windows turned my pc on while i was at work, my monitor died violently, and corrupted my gpu, which then corrupted my motherboard bios, 3 or 4 rma's later, asus, and MSI were able to help me get things up and running again.
i finally upgraded my MSI RTX 2060 gaming Z to a ASUS ROG STRIX 3060Ti OC. thought id never get through the great GPU Shortage but i did. its a beast and comes within striking distance of a RTX 2080TI in performance.
Glad to see The Promenthis finally getting looked at. But it's good to see the RMA on ASUS and how they handle it. Great video Kyle and enjoy your vacation.
@Bitwit I saw in an issue of the micromark hobby catalogue I get every couple months, something called a micro-mark flex cam, which uses a long flexible digital transfer cable and a self illuminating camera, might be perfect for performing inspections of any future builds that use metal tubing in the cooling loop. if not this, then something smaller, because I do agree, not being able to see inside the tubes proper, post loop drainage, for an inspection IS a problem.
I am curious how an editing system is used for that by just sitting he's a moron 10 grand and the computer is just sitting there what a waste it's getting obsolete and not getting used
This so makes me wish they I lived closer. You can buy a replacement bios chip for around $20, desolder the old chip, and solder in the new chip. The soldering process takes like 20 minutes in total including cleaning up the old solder, and wiping off the flux.
Hi Kyle, I have a long history of boot troubles with asus motherboards including those horrid boot failures without dumping you into bios screen. In my experience I've found that clearing CMOS and then trying to boot several times eventually goes into a fail state bios, from where you can try to diagnose the trouble (and see what temp that beautiful threadripper is being tortured at). Maybe worth a try.
Kyle, i think an awesome video idea would be to make a 2020 era build and run some benchmarks to show that a 3900X and a 2080ti can still crush even today. just a thought!
Yeah would be good to see if totally ANCIENT hardware from all the way back in 2020 can run today's games. His 32 core CPU and GPU equivalent to a 3070 will likely seriously struggle.
Hey Kyle - with brass tubing, you can use a standard deburring/chamfer tool like you would with PETG to fix those gnarly looking edges. They work for brass just as well as any other tubing.
I love Threadrippers and currently use a 1920x 12 core @4.0Ghz. 64Gb 3200. for it only being 1st gen Threadripper still has a decent multi-thread score. want to upgrade to a 2nd gen 24 core or even 36 core eventually. Had a lot of health issues with in last 3 years, and cannot work. :( plan on building a new AMD machine shortly after new Zen launches, and use this Threadripper for a Game server for my Discord.
My experience with Asus's RMA process has been great the past few years with the RMS I've done for my systems and helping other people with their systems. Within 2 weeks I received a new or refurbished replacement motherboard.
We have a few ASUS Threadripper boards that have issues booting with all RAM slots full. Try pulling a single stick and see if it boots. If it does boot shoot me a message and I’ll give you the long procedure we have to do on all our systems when they decide to not boot in order to get them to boot back up with 8 stick of RAM.
you can always ask for a new motherboard but still send back this board so they can refurb it so its not really different than you swapping it properly
Go through and document the RMA process. ASUS standard customer service has been utter crap for a lot of people including myself. I went through 56 emails back and forth because their Armoury Crate was conflicting with iCUE on a z690 board. They kept blaming the RAM and iCUE with Corsair blaming ASUS. Their techs at ASUS kept assuming hardware issues and didn't want to look into it being their own fault; this escalated to as high as the office of the CEO and VP of Technical Service... neither office could figure out what was going on until I kept pushing for them to check their software. Sure enough 3 days after my last email; Armoury Crate got an update and fixed all the issues lol
I thank you from the gods above for your service at attempting to get Icue and Armory Crate compatible atleast on 1 board. Lighting software is hell, don't let anyone tell you different folks.
@@Skateking53 My problem was iCUE and Armoury Crate were conflicting with my RAM's RGB. I've gotten it to the point now that Armoury will work, but iCUE still spazzes out unless you exit and relaunch it. Then it works as intended. The board I use is the z690 Extreme; which requires Armoury Crate for any of the mobo's RGB and AniMe Matrix display. So I couldn't choose one or the other; had to fight to have both
@@SephAnubisIII Bro, everyday I have to attempt to launch ICue somewhere between 1 and 10 times before it finally detects all my hardware and doesn't crash, then I have to launch Armory Crate and swap my rgb from green to some other color and back. Just to maybe get lucky it will all pair and work. Keep in mind this is just to have everything static green.... that's it....
@@Skateking53 Have you deleted the folder in the iCUE directory that corrisponds to ASUS? I did this and it helped cut out some of the multiple restarting of iCUE. ASUS tried referring me to a stupid Corsair plugin for Armoury that was made in 2019 and has since been discontinued, but they apparently didn't know this lol.
@@SephAnubisIII I will have to look into this, as I know I have not checked or done what you are saying about the corresponding folder. However, I will say part of this issue may be my own fault. As I purposely have an older version of ICue due to newer versions being ridiculously over designed. I'm not sure my exact version though 😜
I'm really surprised they'll RMA that. I'd really like to hear about your experience with the RMA process, with none of your connections being involved. But this is why I have a UPS that use to update BIOS's. Removes the biggest risk factor from interrupting the flash process.
@Bitwit Kyle, do you lubricate your O-rings prior to installation? I use Vaseline because that is what we do at my work. If it is good for Nuclear piping, it's good enough for me! LOL Sometimes that can help from pinching or causing tears in an O-ring.
@19:33 it actually tells you on the lil LCD screen on the mobo that it flashed successfully. And I would love to see you put a cooler on the CPU in the mean time. It's really bugging me to see it like that even tho it's only in it's BIoS. Poor guy must be getting hot. And go thru the RMA, I had to RMA a board a while back (2014?) and was happy with the results. One of the mem channels wasn't working and think they just fixed it. Still working today, like now, as I'm using it right here.
Ok, first…a Greece update is needed…hahaha Second, go through the RMA process AND reach out to your Asus Rep. Dual videos documenting Chrometheus and the RMA process would be cool. Do a second build with the RMA board and do a giveaway!!! Winner winner, chicken dinner!!!
Had the same scare today. Bios wasn't updating after hours and I had to pull the plug. Then system wouldn't boot. Luckily after trying flashback 4 times It updated and worked.
Not being funny but did you try clearing the CMOS or removing the bios battery to let it completely reset? The update showed as successful on the display so, presumably, during the flashing process it confirms a successful flash once it's done? Do BOTH, ask for another board but RMA that one, that way you get both stories.
I am going through this issue now......I spent almost 12k on my build, and the 5th time after I have booted it, I have had problems ever since. Very mad and pissed that I have spent more time trying to figure out what's wrong than actually using it. I do not think I will do water-cooled builds again :(
Hi Kyle! Hope you have fun in Greece and everywhere else! I want to see how Asus' RMA process is for you. On my very first PC computer build, I had to RMA a brand-new board and the process to about two weeks to get through. Asus from my experience, treated my RMA issue quickly and fairly. Chromethus (did I spell that right?) needs a few more cosmetic, chrome-related upgrades, and possible even a newer case too. I heard/read posts of another PCMR/Lian-Li Chrome case drop so maybe that could be a video as well. Great to see you back making videos and breaking PCs! Be well 🙂
You got lucky, check out asus subreddit, they deny you over ANY little petty thing. They denied me over a fallen off rgb led on the edge of the board. They broke off an additional led when they had it and denied it despite me having proof with pictures. I had a friend who had a RMA denied also over damage that wasn't there when he shipped it also. They will do anything to deny a RMA to save money.
@@frederickpolk nope, no resolution. I appealed it, I even used their CEO link. They refused and offered to repair it for like 390. I could buy the board brand new for 259 off amazon. Ended up just buying a different brand and will never buy asus again.
Regarding the starship Prometheus, nice ship. I suggest a video on designing and planning a custom loop. The process, everything from beginning to end.
Do RMA. I did with my used purchased STRIX RX580 8GB TOP OC and it was still under warranty a coupleyearsagoor so. It popped on 2nd boot. Spent $50 CDN on shipping and it took less than 2 weeks to get tge replacement. They sent a brand new unit. Great customer service.
@Bitwit Pretty sure you done a video just after you updated the bios, Hope Greace isn't too hot for you, I went about 33 years ago and got sunburned and that was in the Easter School Holidays here in the UK. really nice weather as long as someone doesn't do a belly flop off the side of a boat!! haha.
I am not sure about all your problems but the POST ERROR can be caused by attempting to boot with no fan plugged into the CPU fan header. Also Threadripper maybe heating up faster than a mainstream chip would so you should try a working cooling solution while troubleshooting. Good luck with the build!!
If I were in Greece it would be in the same state as Egypt, Lyons, Rome, Naples, Lima, and Utica - in other words New York! I am assuming by referring to sunburn you were talking about the country near the Mediterranean and not some city near where you live? :D
Have you tried both bios? Are both bricked? After all, the normal Zenith II Extreme also has dual BIOS. I have the Alpha and in the worst case I can simply switch to the second BIOS.
avarage customer? thats BS, i had a damaged socket from when i got my z170-i gaming wifi board and no support wanted to help me, not even asus or where i bought mine from. it was also brand new so it was allready damaged when it left the manufacture
I hope asus does the same thing to him that they did to me and a friend, deny him over some petty thing that has nothing to do with the problem then he can expose them for the scammers they are.
If it's just a bad bios flash they may use an EEPROM programmer wired up to the BIOS chip (there's hidden, undocumented pinouts for this on many modern boards), re-flash it, and confirm it boots. It's not hard, I've done it myself with a flashcat (which is your other option at this point, if it wasn't still under warranty).
Hey Kyle! My brother in-law recently had his apartment building catch fire and his PC ended up getting doused with water when the fire department came to put out the fire. Is there any way to test the components individually to try and salvage some of it?
RMA....no need to document but it will be good for your relationship with ASUS. You will be on holiday anyway so what is the point of getting it in 1 day from your rep? The RMA will also help ASUS with their internal stats on returns and possibly identify a weakness in certain lines of their products.
If you put a 4000 series NVIDIA you may be up for a new PSU as well, higher wattage and possilby different connectors too. Cant wait to see this build go live eventually! :)
Hi Kyle Regarding the Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix and no signal,if my memory serves me correctly,EKWB backplate for RTX 2080Ti Strix was in my case cause of no signal or boot,if you over tighten the backplate screws it won't boot,mainly around the core area I would loosen the screws and try boot again or just remove backplate and try boot again
I've done two Rma"s with asus for my 2080 Ti dual oc. First time was card failed in 3 months, they replaced it with a new in box. Second time they replaced it with a used/repaired card. The new in box one the core wasn't as good as my original but it had samsung mems that did +1500. The second rma card the core was amazing doing 2200mhz stable, but it had micron mems that could only do +1000 for daily, could push +1200 for benching. But it turns out that it was the ek waterblock that was causing the issues. The part that touches the die wasn't actually touching the die and over about 3 months time, the tim would move to the edges of die and leave the middle without any tim.
My thoughts on the options: (This is gonna be long) 1- RMA is good content for builders to see. RMA is usually the final option for most people to get a working PC. It stresses the fact that buying piecemeal is not a good idea, because (bare minimum cpu, some form of graphics, psu, mobo, memory, storage and cpu cooling) is necessary to test those components. Case, additional storage, keyboard, mouse, unicorn vomit, monitor (hdmi to tv for previous test) can be bought seperately afterward. A proper boot test should have been preformed, 1 stick ram, cpu cooler and fan plugged in, sata storage to get through ALL POST (Power On Self Test) checks. 2- Call rep feeds into the "Entitled Tech Tuber" connotation. To me it sounds like "Broke it, Gimme (for a back burner piece that was never completed and is no longer relevant) because [I'm] impatient and lazy"
Try RMA as I had received very bad customer service from Asus about a motherboard. Kept on telling me to go on there website and fill out a ticket how can I do that with out no computer.
I think you should get the board from your rep. But follow through with the RMA because that way if they refuse the RMA (randomly) you would still have a new board and you will have had experience with the RMA process to discuss.
This is random but i have a question. I have a 3080 ftw3 and o recently got a new 1440p 240hz monitor and my temps have been close to 80c. Is that ok? I don’t know the temperature threshold or anything like that
Documenting ASUS' RMA process would be nice. A company's true colors are revealed when you go through the standard channels without any inside connections.
In my RMA experience with Asus they did well, when my strix 2080ti started artifacting they replaced it with a working gpu, the process took 3 weeks total and it was around christmas time I am a happy customer... definitely would be interesting to see the process again though
So far, best one I had was EVGA.
Had an issue with a 1000w Supernova. Messaged them, with a video of whats wrong. No questions asked, they sent me a 1000w platinum because they ran out of the same 1000 g2 that I had.
They sent it fast from evga germany to uk before asking me to send the broken one so I can be up and running immediately.
Worst one's are gigabyte and msi.
Had issues with both. And support will keep pushing you and delaying you. Telling you that it might be your fault etc. Etc. Until you just give up and they win.
Ever since then, I try avoid those two and just use evga for brand new stuff.
Unless if I buy used at a decent price.
Asus RMA'd my x570 Gaming E board even after I admitted to borking the bios. My experience has been great with Asus.
Lian Li is.. interesting.
True colors? You feel entitled that you get a replacement when you brick the board?
+1 for documenting the RMA process. You've got time, 4000-series ain't happening in the next month lol. Best guess is towards the end of the year like normal. Might as well milk the content!
Current estimations put the release of the first 4000 series model (102 die) into September.
Acc to nvidia its gonna release at like September or November
I think the 4090 is coming out in august
@@cashcole2177 Thought wrong
@@MrDonphan ok and🤣
@11:07 A de-burring tool for the interior of the tubing would be a good idea as well.
I was thinking the same exact thing
Agreed 1000%
I almost cringed at the sight of those sharp edges.. agreed
Deburring it for chimps just go air cooling then deburring is not needed
LOL you watched the same train wreck? And de-burring is your concern... Well I guess it's a unique suggestion ;)
he's not putting in a 4090. He's gonna end up waiting for a 5090. it's the circle of life.
No the 6090
No 7090
No,8090
@@K1ngwing nah nah the 9090ti
Nope 10090
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Kyle: Let's update the BIOS on my motherboard while there is no cooling on my threadripper.
It should be fine. That waterblock is a good enough heatsink to last long enough to boot for a few seconds and during a bios update its not doing much but its definitely not a good idea.
Also wasn't it an automatic update?
@KrazyRyzenPC He did not. He said he tried to do a flash in the past and it failed, so when he powered it up it was trying to finish the flash he tried to do months ago. But either way it was risky, if the graphics card is dead with no signal I would not be trying to update a bios blind, sounds risky.
@@onlygaming69 yes but the time when he try to use bios flashback he still doesn't change / fill the coolers
I don’t know whats happening with Kyle. He is not the same as before his divorce (which is understandable of course). He does more stuff that fails or go wrong nowadays. Sad to see. Hope he is alright and wil be the same as before soon.
I have this motherboard with a 3960X. It has BIOS flashback and Dual BIOS. His troubleshooting steps are terrible. To properly troubleshoot this, you need to get the board to a respectable state, meaning put an air cooler on it with a fan connected to the CPU FAN header. The motherboard will not post without a fan connected to the CPU FAN header or plug the gpu loop holes, fill the loop, and use the liquid cooling properly, remembering to connect one of the radiator fans to the CPU FAN header. Next, clear the CMOS. I have no idea why that wasn't his first step. The board has a CMOS reset button on the rear IO so he didn't even have to jumper any pins. The motherboard should now at least display a screen saying "Press F1 or Delete to enter the bios". It doesn't even need a storage drive to post. If you do try and post without a storage drive after entering the bios and rebooting it will give a post error saying incorrect drive or no drive detected. If at this point it still won't post, switch over to the second BIOS using the internal BIOS Switch, clear the CMOS, and start the system.
I had an issue with the latest BIOS firmware 1603, that wouldn't allow me to disable the onboard Intel 1GbE LAN and WiFi controllers without going through a CPU Code 7 error followed by a TEST CMOS error. Asus was able to develop a new firmware and send it to me. The special BIOS worked perfectly! There's no reason to RMA this board at this point, just better troubleshooting. Also, these boards haven't been made in over a year, if you want a new one, you'll be paying over $1100 for a new one.
@10:19 for the price of o-rings it’s a good idea to replace all of them after tearing it down. Especially if you find any damaged ones
yeppers if ones wrecked replace them all cause who knows how long the other's will last new ones have a much longer life anyways and they are cheap
I've been building systems for many years (too many, maybe). Much as I enjoy trying different ideas and types of builds, I've just never been able to get excited about liquid cooling. It adds unnecessary complexity, weight, risk, and cost to a build. It makes no sense to me whatsoever, and I can't understand why some folks think it's a good idea. I'd rather spend the money earmarked for all of that pointless equipment on better components. But hey, that's just me and what do I know? The world would be a pretty boring place if we were all the same.
TBF as much as i can agree with your point, some people take PC Building as "Art" and who wouldn't want to perfect and beautify your "art" especially if dont really need another PC component and just wanted to invest in on single PC, provided you have excess money for your hobby? Personally i find the metal tubing and the glossiness + the way the pipeline structured is pretty cool, but i personally wouldnt really build it, as you said, its costly and weight a lot.
Risky part, i would say pretty subjective, i heard there are coolant that are non conductive and stuff (Too lazy too fact check) so it doesnt immediately short circuit as easy. And AIO Liquid has very low chance of leaking. Complexity is depending on what material you use for pipe lining, some require more tool and kit to setup and some just Plug and fill it with water.
One more thing, Liquid cooling DOES have many more potential than Air Cooler in term of efficiency (Smaller AIO Cooler might perform the same as beefy air cooler, im using NH-D14 while i love the cooler but it take so much space for my ram slot that it limited the choice that i had, and its pretty heavy)
I agree with you! On my old computer I decided to custom watercool, and it was fun building it and learning, but maitenance was a pain in the ass. I decided that I would never do it again, only AIOs at most from now on.
same here. 100% air cooled to this day :)
Depends. I have tried 3 ways, high tier components but are all reference design with loud air coolers. Or high tier components with top tier custom pcb design with eye candy custom cooler and aesthetics. Or high tier components with water cooling with ek.
Hands down aesthetic wise water cooling looks beautiful. And very silent offering great cooling.
Followed by the pc build with top tier components. i.e. a build compose of all asus rog parts as an example.
Then the last one, high tier components but mostly reference designs and usually run hot and loud. I.e. inno3d, zotac, etc. And some cheap mobo.
Now the issue with watercooling in my experience.
1: it cost a lot of money, I have tried it. And for real it eats a lot of cash. As you said, Id rather add that money to a top tier gpu.
But hands down, aesthetic wise it looks the best. At least for me. So far I have done 5 watercooling builds. Two times hard tubing, 3 times soft tubes. Never again. The rest are air cooled.
2: when it comes to cleaning the loop and refilling new liquid. It is a right pain in the buttocks.
Specially with busy work schedule. You have no time. Like legit sometimes you just wanna go home, turn on the pc and play.
As you get old, you might have the cash to buy the pc of your dreams.
But you lose the time you once had playing pc games when you were young simultaneously.
3: it can be a pain upgrading stuff, as everything is in a loop.
So now I mostly just build air cooled systems. And just make sure I got good cpu cooler. (Got a short video of my current system, and happy with that now)
And a gpu with good custom design that runs max 65 celsius under load while running very silently.
good example. Rtx 3080 or 3090 from zotac runs at 71+ under load and it is like a hurricane in a case.
Now the same rtx card from msi suprim or asus tuf or rog, full load at 4k, max 65 celsius and barely hear it.
And they look nice, easy to clean, easy upgrade.
But yeah, once you tried. You will know the pros and cons.
For now sticking with all aircooled!
I guess it depends what you want out of the build. I watercooled my PC for a few reasons. 1) it's super quiet, my fans never ramp up , I can't even hear them and max temps get to like 50C. 2)Because of the lower temps, I have better performance since my gpu can boost itself higher, same with cpu. 3) I really like the look of it, it makes it feel more custom and look really cool, plus it's fun to do.
As for using the extra money on better components, I wouldn't bother watercooling lower tier components. When I started watercooling, I went with a 2080 ti since it was the top end at the time, cpu is a 10700k, because a 10900k really wasnt that much better.
Some people have mentioned maintenance being a pain, honestly there hasn't really been much maintenance, I run distilled water, no coolants or dyes, so there's no buildup to clean out etc. The only times I've done any sort of maintenance is if I want to change up my loop, or when I've added a bigger radiator or res. But honestly redoing my loop is part of the fun for me.
*Kyle's ASUS guy sees Kyle's number on the caller ID*
*dies a little inside*
"Hello? Yes, Kyle? What did you do now...?"
That tier of board should have A> bios flash back and B> dual bios chips. I expect dual bios chips on any board that costs over $200, I had a $60 AM2+ board that had dual chips so it's not unreasonable to expect it on much higher end boards also.
Remember like...the first time Kyle water cooled and THAT THING happened? Yeah...the OG's will remember. Classic...
Splish Splash In the Manta's basement!
yes
Wait are we talking about the grey white and pink build? the only thing I recall happening there was the sleeving issue and not having it plugged into pdwm... ohhhh you mean his 2nd build ever, the SFF Manta build... and the dum dum moment. Yea oopsies.
I loved this because I just started a job as a customer service rep. It’s very cool to see your experience and I’m intrigued with how the refurb pans out!
needs more troubleshooting, try swapping around your memory sticks and make sure that's not it, make sure the cpu is cooled, and don't forget to have storage installed, that might be the cause of that post error (considering it shows a HDD logo on the error)... Just a thought
I've had a mobo fail to POST when there was no CPU fan connected, and the board didn't even have an option for monitoring fan failures.
If I recall correctly EK has pretty much tried to standardize fitting placement with there matrix 7 system (and they were already doing that a bit in the past) so you might only need extensions to fit any RTX 4000 series cards
Did you try connect a drive (SSD) to it and check if you still have the error? The POST error has a drive icon over the text... Maybe removing the drives you previously configured in a RAID is preventing it to boot correctly? You may also try to reset the CMOS to fix that issue.
Stick with the RMA process is the way to go. A video if you can with the any problems or the whole experience with Asus RMA department, would be great. Or even an overview of the replacement board.
Ps. Have a nice time in our country. Eat well stay hydrated beware the sun and have a save trip back to your homeland!
Everytime I come back to this channel I land on a video where Kyle has Bricked the BIOS of a motherboard! This is actually surreal. I can't believe how this man has killed so many motherboards. Kyle, you stand alone on this planet as the person who has single handedly destroyed the most motherboards without even trying.
Man what a month. Jay decides to refresh Symbiote, Linus and Paul get new offices, and now Kyle is working on Chrometheus again.
That post error seems to relate to the lack of HDD, there was also a white LED lit up where the HDD_LED Debug LED is. I've had this issue before after doing a BIOS flashback and it wanted a drive installed to read before it would successfully boot.
You built it, that was bound to happen sooner or later
Too bad about the borked BIOS, even more about the malfunctioning GPU. Would like to see if the replacement finally breathes life into Chromethius - a fine system like that deserves a new lease on life. Looking forward to future content on your chromy-boi! Chin up, Kyle! Everyone messes up sometimes and BIOS updates still give me heart palpitations today.
Doesn't that board have dual bios? Could have just switched to the secondary using the bios switch. I had a Rampage V Extreme board where the primary bios chip randomly stopped working (Error code 79) and was able to switch to the secondary to get it to post. I later ordered a replacement bios chip online and swapped it out without issue to restore redundancy. But hey I look forward to your future RMA experience video.
Maybe a combination of the two options: Contact your rep at Asus to ask for a refurbished unit of the same board, then return the two broken boards that you have. It's essentially the RMA process, but you wouldn't feel guilty about Asus sending over another brand new board.
Kyle: is this going to be an 8 min video or a 20 min video? *video becomes 28 mins*
Go thru the RMA process like the rest of us and somehow educate who haven't experienced having to RMA their PC component/s.
The follow-up of this build is the only reason why I'm still subscribed.
Are you sure an SSD installed while trying to POST? it had an HDD logo during the post error and it's possible that it aborted when it realized there were no flash drives or storage volumes attached. Granted you would expect it to display out and go straight to BIOS but I've seen some motherboards behave that way.
That platform supports NVMe 4 drives. It came out after AMD added to the AM4 platform. Also, it’s dual bios. Just switch to the other bios.
I had an interesting failure of hardware about a year ago, windows turned my pc on while i was at work, my monitor died violently, and corrupted my gpu, which then corrupted my motherboard bios, 3 or 4 rma's later, asus, and MSI were able to help me get things up and running again.
This troubleshooting content is much more better than most of the tech channels content it's natural and I like it more of this please.
i finally upgraded my MSI RTX 2060 gaming Z to a ASUS ROG STRIX 3060Ti OC. thought id never get through the great GPU Shortage but i did. its a beast and comes within striking distance of a RTX 2080TI in performance.
Glad to see The Promenthis finally getting looked at. But it's good to see the RMA on ASUS and how they handle it. Great video Kyle and enjoy your vacation.
@Bitwit I saw in an issue of the micromark hobby catalogue I get every couple months, something called a micro-mark flex cam, which uses a long flexible digital transfer cable and a self illuminating camera, might be perfect for performing inspections of any future builds that use metal tubing in the cooling loop. if not this, then something smaller, because I do agree, not being able to see inside the tubes proper, post loop drainage, for an inspection IS a problem.
I am curious how an editing system is used for that by just sitting he's a moron 10 grand and the computer is just sitting there what a waste it's getting obsolete and not getting used
alternatively...SWAP the chromed copper loop for glass.
When Kyle said that he was going to be in "grease" I could not help but think of him rolling around in a vat of thermal paste.
I was thinking a suburb of Rochester, New York myself.
This so makes me wish they I lived closer. You can buy a replacement bios chip for around $20, desolder the old chip, and solder in the new chip. The soldering process takes like 20 minutes in total including cleaning up the old solder, and wiping off the flux.
You should put the new lian li fans in here, I think they would look great with their chrome sides
It's chromeitheus
@@harshkalbhor4653 it is
the sides aren`t chrome , they are rgb controlled infinity mirror`s - jaytwocents just uploaded a video on them today
@@JamesFox1 ohh I see I still think they would look great in here
@@TexturaI bruh I know just those fans are rgb
Hi Kyle, I have a long history of boot troubles with asus motherboards including those horrid boot failures without dumping you into bios screen. In my experience I've found that clearing CMOS and then trying to boot several times eventually goes into a fail state bios, from where you can try to diagnose the trouble (and see what temp that beautiful threadripper is being tortured at). Maybe worth a try.
Kyle, i think an awesome video idea would be to make a 2020 era build and run some benchmarks to show that a 3900X and a 2080ti can still crush even today. just a thought!
Yeah would be good to see if totally ANCIENT hardware from all the way back in 2020 can run today's games. His 32 core CPU and GPU equivalent to a 3070 will likely seriously struggle.
Hey Kyle - with brass tubing, you can use a standard deburring/chamfer tool like you would with PETG to fix those gnarly looking edges. They work for brass just as well as any other tubing.
I love Threadrippers and currently use a 1920x 12 core @4.0Ghz. 64Gb 3200.
for it only being 1st gen Threadripper still has a decent multi-thread score.
want to upgrade to a 2nd gen 24 core or even 36 core eventually.
Had a lot of health issues with in last 3 years, and cannot work. :(
plan on building a new AMD machine shortly after new Zen launches,
and use this Threadripper for a Game server for my Discord.
there is always content when you make a video, whether it's a failed video or not kyle, we enjoy seeing the work you do even if it fails.
My experience with Asus's RMA process has been great the past few years with the RMS I've done for my systems and helping other people with their systems. Within 2 weeks I received a new or refurbished replacement motherboard.
We have a few ASUS Threadripper boards that have issues booting with all RAM slots full. Try pulling a single stick and see if it boots. If it does boot shoot me a message and I’ll give you the long procedure we have to do on all our systems when they decide to not boot in order to get them to boot back up with 8 stick of RAM.
you can always ask for a new motherboard but still send back this board so they can refurb it so its not really different than you swapping it properly
Go through and document the RMA process. ASUS standard customer service has been utter crap for a lot of people including myself. I went through 56 emails back and forth because their Armoury Crate was conflicting with iCUE on a z690 board. They kept blaming the RAM and iCUE with Corsair blaming ASUS. Their techs at ASUS kept assuming hardware issues and didn't want to look into it being their own fault; this escalated to as high as the office of the CEO and VP of Technical Service... neither office could figure out what was going on until I kept pushing for them to check their software. Sure enough 3 days after my last email; Armoury Crate got an update and fixed all the issues lol
I thank you from the gods above for your service at attempting to get Icue and Armory Crate compatible atleast on 1 board. Lighting software is hell, don't let anyone tell you different folks.
@@Skateking53 My problem was iCUE and Armoury Crate were conflicting with my RAM's RGB. I've gotten it to the point now that Armoury will work, but iCUE still spazzes out unless you exit and relaunch it. Then it works as intended. The board I use is the z690 Extreme; which requires Armoury Crate for any of the mobo's RGB and AniMe Matrix display. So I couldn't choose one or the other; had to fight to have both
@@SephAnubisIII Bro, everyday I have to attempt to launch ICue somewhere between 1 and 10 times before it finally detects all my hardware and doesn't crash, then I have to launch Armory Crate and swap my rgb from green to some other color and back. Just to maybe get lucky it will all pair and work. Keep in mind this is just to have everything static green.... that's it....
@@Skateking53 Have you deleted the folder in the iCUE directory that corrisponds to ASUS? I did this and it helped cut out some of the multiple restarting of iCUE. ASUS tried referring me to a stupid Corsair plugin for Armoury that was made in 2019 and has since been discontinued, but they apparently didn't know this lol.
@@SephAnubisIII I will have to look into this, as I know I have not checked or done what you are saying about the corresponding folder. However, I will say part of this issue may be my own fault. As I purposely have an older version of ICue due to newer versions being ridiculously over designed. I'm not sure my exact version though 😜
I'm really surprised they'll RMA that. I'd really like to hear about your experience with the RMA process, with none of your connections being involved. But this is why I have a UPS that use to update BIOS's. Removes the biggest risk factor from interrupting the flash process.
You've killed more motherboards than Roe v Wade killed babies.
@Bitwit Kyle, do you lubricate your O-rings prior to installation? I use Vaseline because that is what we do at my work. If it is good for Nuclear piping, it's good enough for me! LOL Sometimes that can help from pinching or causing tears in an O-ring.
@19:33 it actually tells you on the lil LCD screen on the mobo that it flashed successfully. And I would love to see you put a cooler on the CPU in the mean time. It's really bugging me to see it like that even tho it's only in it's BIoS. Poor guy must be getting hot. And go thru the RMA, I had to RMA a board a while back (2014?) and was happy with the results. One of the mem channels wasn't working and think they just fixed it. Still working today, like now, as I'm using it right here.
The spoopy face in the tube *chefs kiss* 🤌🏻 9:05
Ok, first…a Greece update is needed…hahaha
Second, go through the RMA process AND reach out to your Asus Rep. Dual videos documenting Chrometheus and the RMA process would be cool. Do a second build with the RMA board and do a giveaway!!! Winner winner, chicken dinner!!!
As if watching HTPC 2.0 could be the worse nightmare for any PC builder, this video proves there's even WORSE nightmares
I watch Paul for news, Jay for silly goose tech stuff, and i watch you to see you break stuff that i can't afford to buy lmao
Yesss finally the chromemithius rebuild I’ve been waiting so long is it a year since the last video of video of this thing
Post error with an HDD symbol, you mentioned earlier in the video you removed all of the drives.
Had the same scare today. Bios wasn't updating after hours and I had to pull the plug. Then system wouldn't boot. Luckily after trying flashback 4 times It updated and worked.
Not being funny but did you try clearing the CMOS or removing the bios battery to let it completely reset?
The update showed as successful on the display so, presumably, during the flashing process it confirms a successful flash once it's done?
Do BOTH, ask for another board but RMA that one, that way you get both stories.
I am going through this issue now......I spent almost 12k on my build, and the 5th time after I have booted it, I have had problems ever since. Very mad and pissed that I have spent more time trying to figure out what's wrong than actually using it. I do not think I will do water-cooled builds again :(
Hi Kyle! Hope you have fun in Greece and everywhere else!
I want to see how Asus' RMA process is for you. On my very first PC computer build, I had to RMA a brand-new board and the process to about two weeks to get through. Asus from my experience, treated my RMA issue quickly and fairly.
Chromethus (did I spell that right?) needs a few more cosmetic, chrome-related upgrades, and possible even a newer case too. I heard/read posts of another PCMR/Lian-Li Chrome case drop so maybe that could be a video as well.
Great to see you back making videos and breaking PCs! Be well 🙂
You got lucky, check out asus subreddit, they deny you over ANY little petty thing. They denied me over a fallen off rgb led on the edge of the board. They broke off an additional led when they had it and denied it despite me having proof with pictures. I had a friend who had a RMA denied also over damage that wasn't there when he shipped it also. They will do anything to deny a RMA to save money.
@@GrumpyWolfTech I’m sorry you were denied by Asus. Did you get any resolution to your RMA? Could you appeal the RMA decision?
@@frederickpolk nope, no resolution. I appealed it, I even used their CEO link. They refused and offered to repair it for like 390. I could buy the board brand new for 259 off amazon. Ended up just buying a different brand and will never buy asus again.
@@GrumpyWolfTech That is the worst. Which company and motherboard did you choose? What is your opinion on the motherboard?
@@frederickpolk I ended up going with gigabyte. Wasn't my first choice, but it was the only x570 itx board that had dual gen 4 m.2 slots.
I hope you RMA'd the board - more content!
Regarding the starship Prometheus, nice ship. I suggest a video on designing and planning a custom loop. The process, everything from beginning to end.
viewer from Greece here enjoy your stay!
Thank you for doing the recap. I was going to suggest what you had already tried. Glad you figured out the problem.
Leaving the high tech PC world vicariously through you.
You've already got a GN mod mat, now find a Patrick Keegan to throw these problems at, saying "I'm fed up with it, you fix it!".
Do RMA. I did with my used purchased STRIX RX580 8GB TOP OC and it was still under warranty a coupleyearsagoor so. It popped on 2nd boot. Spent $50 CDN on shipping and it took less than 2 weeks to get tge replacement. They sent a brand new unit. Great customer service.
Finaly the chromemithius rebuild, i have been so anxious to finaly see an update! Keep up the amazing content :D
@Bitwit Pretty sure you done a video just after you updated the bios, Hope Greace isn't too hot for you, I went about 33 years ago and got sunburned and that was in the Easter School Holidays here in the UK. really nice weather as long as someone doesn't do a belly flop off the side of a boat!! haha.
I am not sure about all your problems but the POST ERROR can be caused by attempting to boot with no fan plugged into the CPU fan header. Also Threadripper maybe heating up faster than a mainstream chip would so you should try a working cooling solution while troubleshooting. Good luck with the build!!
If I were in Greece it would be in the same state as Egypt, Lyons, Rome, Naples, Lima, and Utica - in other words New York! I am assuming by referring to sunburn you were talking about the country near the Mediterranean and not some city near where you live? :D
Have you tried both bios? Are both bricked? After all, the normal Zenith II Extreme also has dual BIOS. I have the Alpha and in the worst case I can simply switch to the second BIOS.
Hope you're not too burned and too many sheets to the wind.. Good luck with this project going forwards man!!
Bitwit: "Is this gonna be an 8min video or 20min video"
*checks the video*
Yes, both added together. :D
You could show us the RMA process but now that they know the process might be unexpectedly convenient for you
avarage customer? thats BS, i had a damaged socket from when i got my z170-i gaming wifi board and no support wanted to help me, not even asus or where i bought mine from.
it was also brand new so it was allready damaged when it left the manufacture
Do the RMA. As a reviewer, you should be an advocate for consumers, and being more informed about our experiences will only help with that
I hope asus does the same thing to him that they did to me and a friend, deny him over some petty thing that has nothing to do with the problem then he can expose them for the scammers they are.
If it's just a bad bios flash they may use an EEPROM programmer wired up to the BIOS chip (there's hidden, undocumented pinouts for this on many modern boards), re-flash it, and confirm it boots. It's not hard, I've done it myself with a flashcat (which is your other option at this point, if it wasn't still under warranty).
Even though this video was pointless, you did a great job with the comedy! Had me laughing
These types of videos are really entertaining to watch because its not my problem
The only thing you can do other than get a new board is get the hardware to force flash a BIOS image on the board to restore it to working order.
Enjoy the vacation Kyle!
Did you try forcing a BIOS reset after updating? Sometimes that helps.
Hey Kyle! My brother in-law recently had his apartment building catch fire and his PC ended up getting doused with water when the fire department came to put out the fire. Is there any way to test the components individually to try and salvage some of it?
If it doesn’t run shouldn’t you drop the fluid in the loop , or do you treat the fluid like when you park the car for the winter
Bitwit, is a place in stories told in the PC parts universe, where unworthy parts are sent to be tortured and killed.
RMA....no need to document but it will be good for your relationship with ASUS. You will be on holiday anyway so what is the point of getting it in 1 day from your rep? The RMA will also help ASUS with their internal stats on returns and possibly identify a weakness in certain lines of their products.
RMA the board dude, go the route of the common man. It will feel that much more satisfying when you actually get it working.
If you put a 4000 series NVIDIA you may be up for a new PSU as well, higher wattage and possilby different connectors too. Cant wait to see this build go live eventually! :)
Hi Kyle
Regarding the Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix and no signal,if my memory serves me correctly,EKWB backplate for RTX 2080Ti Strix was in my case cause of no signal or boot,if you over tighten the backplate screws it won't boot,mainly around the core area I would loosen the screws and try boot again or just remove backplate and try boot again
Jayztwocents Collab time, head over there and use his ultrasonic cleaner to clean the parts :)
I've done two Rma"s with asus for my 2080 Ti dual oc. First time was card failed in 3 months, they replaced it with a new in box. Second time they replaced it with a used/repaired card.
The new in box one the core wasn't as good as my original but it had samsung mems that did +1500.
The second rma card the core was amazing doing 2200mhz stable, but it had micron mems that could only do +1000 for daily, could push +1200 for benching.
But it turns out that it was the ek waterblock that was causing the issues. The part that touches the die wasn't actually touching the die and over about 3 months time, the tim would move to the edges of die and leave the middle without any tim.
My thoughts on the options: (This is gonna be long)
1- RMA is good content for builders to see. RMA is usually the final option for most people to get a working PC. It stresses the fact that buying piecemeal is not a good idea, because (bare minimum cpu, some form of graphics, psu, mobo, memory, storage and cpu cooling) is necessary to test those components. Case, additional storage, keyboard, mouse, unicorn vomit, monitor (hdmi to tv for previous test) can be bought seperately afterward. A proper boot test should have been preformed, 1 stick ram, cpu cooler and fan plugged in, sata storage to get through ALL POST (Power On Self Test) checks.
2- Call rep feeds into the "Entitled Tech Tuber" connotation. To me it sounds like "Broke it, Gimme (for a back burner piece that was never completed and is no longer relevant) because [I'm] impatient and lazy"
All for documenting the process. Why in the world would you wait till after Greece though? Should have sent before you left and got it going.
For rust check WD-40 i think it can remove rust from copper. Just apply some wait for for few minute and it should dissolve it.
Try RMA as I had received very bad customer service from Asus about a motherboard. Kept on telling me to go on there website and fill out a ticket how can I do that with out no computer.
Take out all the memory sticks but one, reset the BIOS, check the CPU mount. The socket on threadripper is pretty touchy.
I think you should get the board from your rep. But follow through with the RMA because that way if they refuse the RMA (randomly) you would still have a new board and you will have had experience with the RMA process to discuss.
This is random but i have a question. I have a 3080 ftw3 and o recently got a new 1440p 240hz monitor and my temps have been close to 80c. Is that ok? I don’t know the temperature threshold or anything like that
Def love to follow the RMA process, and this is mos def content!
Kyle with the catastrophic pc building fail porn again