Ceasar's more supportive imo. Jane is probably better if you're looking for a new team, but ceasar is someone you can pull on if you want to buff your current carries. Some prime examples of this would be S11 or Nekomata.
@@kissshot2261 thats the situation on my account as well XD Neko owner here haha Neko - Caesar - Lucy will give Neko onfield buffs and shield protection on top of Lucy's buff. Where as the current pairing with Piper, Piper is constantly switching out after an assault for Neko but needs to comeback in soon
I think Caesar is going to be more like Zhongli in Genshin who gives shield and a damage buff (through RES shred). And while other units have come and gone, Zhongli remains as the best "comfort" teammate for a majority of the content. Once you have the damage on your team for clearing content in time, having comfortability is going to make her more much more likely to be brought into teams in the long run. Particularly if we get a Red, harder repeatable half of the Survival Shiyu mode
I really wanted Jane when I first got to play her but when Caesar was announced I wanted her for her design until I saw she is a defender instead of an attacker. Should have known when she was revealed to have some kind of shield in an older trailer. Now I‘m definitely gonna pull for Caesar though since I heard about the leaked buffs. 1000 attack buff and her being able to stun are the main reasons and the shield on top of it is nice too. Currently have Zhu Yuan, Lycaon and Rina as my S rank agents and I have every A rank agent except for Anton. Hopefully I‘ll get Caesar on the 50/50 so I can get Miyabi next because I missed out on Ellen. I‘m kinda worried that I‘ll lose the 50/50 so I won’t be able to guarantee Miyabi when she releases but maybe the polychromes we get by playing daily will suffice.
Caesar King has more value right now because of the upcoming late game mode that favors defensive agents. But this also tells us how quickly the tide changes in this game, so no one is actually future proof right now.
+1 I love my Corin to dead and she currently can finish Shiyuu Defense S rank no prob. Despite her having many I-frame animations, she is a bit fragile imo so Caesar would do her well. The problem is it seems we also need to pull for Caesar's signature W-Engine. The current defense WE is very limited.
Caesar, she will be invaluable, and time will prove me correct. I think she's designed to pair with Lucy and together they'll create a meta core for any Fire of Physical attacker to easily pair with.
I was blessed by the gacha gods and got M1 Nekomata. Pulling Caesar for her stuns. The buffs she provides are a massive plus. This is a new account and I haven’t pulled for anyone yet. End game is about to be rough but I’m willing to wait for my KING🤞🏾
Both, to be frank, if you pulled Qingyi the only way for you my friend is go out there, find a time machine, undo your decision and save for Jane and Caesar instead.
I pulled for her and her wengine and I absolutely love it. She is stong af even if you play her without teammates. With traditional dps' most the time you spend on stunner and not dps and thats not how jane works, she just wanna be on field everytime and combining that with her amazing gameplay its so fun
when u know seth buff has ran out, look for a parry opportunity to switch him in and reapply the buff then use his quick assist to get jane back on the field!
Im glad someone is saying save for later based on their experience with previous hoyo games. People say just pull for who you want, but forget that only 10% of the roster are currently available right now. How can you know who you want to pull for? Better off saving
yup i really thought i was gonna end up not having to spend money but oh 🐳 (i literally used all my saved polychromes for jane when i was originally saving them for caesar☠️)
I was tempted to get Jane but Piper is that good and the sons of Calydon seems to have better characters overall... so I'm getting both Caesar and Burnice
Great video! I was planning on skipping Jane but ended up getting her anyway (gamba addiction kicked in). Let’s just say I get the hype, she's insane. Although I will 100% get Caesar too, she’s a must-pull for me. Jane will also be great with Burnice I think
I don't have either Ellen or Zhu Yuan, but I do have both Neko and Soldier 11. Jane sounds more like a replacement to Neko than a teammate, so I am not really too keen on pulling Jane. Caesar is tempting, though I've already cleared the disputed node and Nicole serves the support role just fine. I'm honestly leaning more towards Bernice, since, if she is indeed a back-linear dps, that could be nice for Soldier 11 and possibly a disorder team in the future.
Caesar would buff your neko and probably be part of neko best team for a LONG time, also burnice would buff your S11 as she would let s11 have 100% uptime off the fire set, since u only need to hit burning enemies and burn ice can keep the burn uptime extremely high
But do u like those characters? u would be the first to like soldier 11 that I heard of but that’s cool ur able to function with only the standard characters..I wish I had that ability 😂
@sumbunniii8721 Yeah, I have been able to S rank all of the end game content (Shiyu defense critical and disputed) with Neko and Soldier 11 with no trouble. I should probably mention I play with PS5 controls though. I can't imagine how difficult end game content must be on mobile.
@@theadventuresofdonny7122 oh wow that’s very interesting to hear. The only character I’ve pulled for & thought was worth it (I’m all about future proof units) thus far was Zhu yuan..so Cesar & burnice (maybe) are right up my alley. The only reason I’m hesitant about Jane is bc I don’t like/want to build piper, at all. & the only standard charc I’ve gotten is grace so far…so my account is kinda made for Jane. I’m just very concerned about her future proof ness…since it doesn’t seem there’s anything in her kit that would make her unique or special long term. It sounds like u got real lucky with standard banner..if I had neko it would be ez skip but who knows when I’ll get her. Btw there’s a leaked (way cooler imo) physical dps (or sub dps we don’t know yet) leopard thiren biker gal coming sometime in the future…but who knows she may even work with Jane. So idk what to do lol. 5 days left to decide.
Great vid. I completely agree with your point of view. Jane has much more value rn as either a second limited 5 star dps or your first limited 5 star dps. I would only recommend Caesar king if you have a a Zhu Yuan/ Ellen team and your second team is either a nekomata team or piper team which doesn’t have koleda.
Damn, I already have Ellen Team, Zhuyuan team. Got an early Jane trying to grab seth, and still sort of want Caesar, but do I really need 3 or 4 teams? It's unclear to me if Jane or Caesar absolutely needs their signature weapons too, which is another big consideration in budgeting.
@@youngwang5546 I feel you brother, I too am tempted to pull for Caesar but burnice holds far more value for my account atm, I’ll probably pull on a rerun banner. Way I see it, anomaly character need their w engine far less as they are relatively easy to build, crit dps on the other hand benefit a lot from a crit sub stat on their weapon. Typically def units replace a stunner or support character so I don’t imagine Caesar king will have crit as part of her w engine. Currently I would recommend holding off on w engines for non attack characters unless you really like the character.
@@CloudXQ you said “her” then “it” I’m not sure if you’re referring to Jane’s weapon or Caesar king. I’ll talk about both but feel free to clarify and I’ll elaborate further, if you want. Between the two, if you must get one, characters are always more valuable but Caesar king would not add much to your account atm, assuming you have Seth. If you don’t have Seth, I would strongly recommend doing 10-20 pulls to try and get him, he holds immense value for Jane. So, for your account specifically Jane’s weapon would probably be more of an immediate upgrade, and if you really like Jane go ahead and get her weapon. Long term though, getting Caesar king would add more value as you eventually get new units to use with her or perhaps you already have Lucy, Nekomata or Piper who could work with her immediately ( Billy is also an option) but obviously you’d have to build up a third team.
I myself have Ellen & Zhu Yuan, did lose my 50/50 Qingyi to Lycaon, but rather keep the gurantee for Caesar. I've cleared Critical Node twice, and finished off all of Shiyu Defense. I'm interested in building a future fire team to break away from Physical/Ice/Ether imo :3
I said this to my genshin buddy, i can't believe hoyo put a c2 nahida constellation into a m0 core skill base kit this early into the game. Jane Doe is a free pass to any content her kit (anomaly procs) can touch, she is looking to be a high quality f2p pull. But the Sons of Calydon Life is calling me!! I come, I see, I crash!!!
It's awesome that you've pointed out the thing I haven't even thought, Caesar is best for those who need shield. I've only seen her as a buffer. I guess it's better for me to wait for a limited support.
I really don't know what to pull, I don't have Ellen or Zhu Yuan, Caesar will fit in a pack with Piper and Lucy, and with Jane I can build a pack of Jane and Lucy's set. I don't know which team will be stronger and play better, do I need Jane's damage or will a pack of Sons of Calydon be stronger, lol
As a new player thats making do with Nekomata Anby and Nicole, i was pulling for Jane but stopped 10 pulls away of the 50/50 the moment i heard that Caeser was next. I love the Sons of Calydor aesthetic and Caesar looks amazing. Im going all in on both Caeser and Burnice.
i skipped robo cop and im skipping Jane for Caesar. im down bad for the sword and shield wife. and ill use her as main dps too idc if shes a defense huhuhuhu. im looking for you to cover Caesar when she drops
if you want to replace any A rank stunner, support or defence characters, just get her. If you don't plan to replace any of those above, you can just get Jane or wait for future characters.
No lies here, Neko might be weaker than Jane but she is strong enough to clear any phys content with her super weaker teams right now. So imagine with Caesar.
Jane good for disorder team, and for a new physical team (don’t suggest u pull for her if u have neko and or piper built) While Caesar is good for buffing Physical team and slotting in for a support or Stun (Im pulling for caeser because #1 i want A Neko, Caesar and Piper team, and i want to be able to use lucy for my fire team if Physical weakness is on one side and fire weakness is on the other.
the argument of support is right and wrong at the same time. Bronya IS STANDAR banner while Cesar is Limted. if you wanna compare it is to Sparkle or Ruan Mei. so has Ruan mei fall of from harmony class in HSR?
i think u miss my point, you can go to many videos and people are saying caesar will be one of the best buffers for a long time, and i dont believe so, I see caesar being a solid buffer, but the new supports added to the game will set a new standard for buffing. Hence why I said bronya because people were saying the same thing about her, but in reality bronya is only solid while the new supports have set a new standard in HSR
@@KetteiThe7th_Also aplies to Ruanmei imo. Robin is just a whole new class of broken, while Ruanmei is only better in break teams. And people were saying Ruanmei is just the best at everything as well when she first came out. The same could be applied to Ceasar. I expect her to be best at only physical team, but future supports will probably be a more universal pick like Robin. Bronya is a standard character, and somehow still being used with certain characters over sparkle(Jingliu, Boothill), i think she’s still on par with both Sparkle and Ruanmei in terms of usage.
I've decided that having two accounts would allow me to compare what it's like to have one without the other. I'm already set on saving for Caesar on my main with only 25 pulls left before guarantee. My second account has Jane and she's really fun. So I'm excited to see what it'd be like to have Caesar on my main
Jane is by far the most fun character in the game! I was on the fence on pulling or waiting. Thank god I pulled, she's my main over Zhu and Ellen who I already had :)
@youngwang5546 Personal opinion here, weapons are never worth it unless you're a whale, it's much better to just pull for characters you like for gameplay. As you continue playing this game for a long time, using the same characters over and over and over again could start to get boring. Being able to switch up characters for fun just seems much better than having a weapon that let's you clear things 10 to 20 seconds faster.
@@imadegenerate9867 that’s a good point. I’m already fully clearing all so far with time to spare, so it’s not like I need the weapon. Thanks for your input! I will save my pulls for Caesar or burnice , they look pretty fun.
What's so good about this is that if you pick Jane Doe right now, she will allow you to comfortably clear high-end content = more currencies. You sacrifice Caesar, yes, but by the time you really need her, she will probably get her rerun by then. As someone who has played Genshin since day 1, I skipped Zhongli in his first banner, then pulled for him a year later. Also, I have a 999em Kazuha with at least 187 ER with Xiphos, and while he's really good support, I still use Venti a lot more than Kazuha because his CC is just better. Venti never really became bad, and this is a testament that support in Hoyoverse games is valuable.
The difference in currency from S ranking is so small lol 1 year of S ranking compared to 1 year of A ranking is such a small difference lol. And when u factor in how much the average character costs, it would take years of a ranking everything to make up for a new character
@@KetteiThe7th_ F2p players needs every single currencies in this game lol and characters do get rerun as well (source me as day 1 genshin player) so you can always get them when you want to lmao. Also Jane Doe changes the way you play the game so that might make it worth it. I swear I've seen this exact comment "such a small difference lol." like 4 years ago in the honeymoon period of Genshin lol. That takes me back to be honest. I'm not exactly f2p but those currencies no matter how small do add up.
The vast majority of f2p players i know from genshin dont even attempt the spiral aybss and they get all their favorite characters, so idk man I genuinely dont think its a big difference at all, Im a day one Hi3, Genshin, Star Rail and now ZZZ player. I have never felt the impact or difference at all from clearing all the content, the difference is quite literally so small
I was pulling on the banner because I wanted the mindscapes but I ended up pulling the rizz rat, and honestly I have the most fun when I’m playing qinyi as if you got the soulsborn skill you can’t be hit with her and now I’m thinking maybe I want someone who can do that and be the actual dps while it’s happening
unless you are downbad for a waifu, the most efficient way to play these hoyogachas imho is to only pull for a character every 2 patches at maximum your newest chara will always be somewhat in the meta Hoyo is pushing at the time and you'll never be at 0 premium currency I pulled for Zhu, skipping this one, then getting Caesar and Burnice (the waifu that proves the rule i guess haha) then skipping whatever 1.3 is gonna and wait for miyabi If a character does end up being hella broken, reruns are a thing so just wait The nice thing about ZZZ is that execution matters as in, if Jane is meta, but i dont like playing her style, then its a skip (where as in HSR, all "execution" is mostly how yr planning your artifact grinding and pulls etc, which is a fun metagame in of itself)
I chose to and ended up pulling for Jane Doe. I need her for a second team because I was lucky (or unlucky enough, I guess) to only unlock all of the S-tier Support and non-DPS Agents. While this means I can be flexible with my roster picks for my Zhu Yuan, it also means that I lack a capable DPS. I was running Piper and Grace for an anomaly disorder team, but after seeing Jane’s kit and trying it out, I knew I had to get her to round out my second team and after building her, she has been melting enemies! As much as I would love to get Caesar, I gotta save up my pulls for Burnice to really make my second team soar!
@@quandalebackbling I really feel once limited supports comes to the game they will outshine Caesar buff, Caesar will just be nice comfort in the future
I will never understand the players who get cons over new characters, especially in the start of the game where so many awesome characters are soon to come that u will now have to skip. But hey, to each their own lol 😅
@@alavien well yea if u have enough saved, unless u use ur wallet? But typically at the start of a gacha game it’s important to have variety, & most units will be powercrept anyways so it’s best to wait until u invest into one character but again, to each their own.
Personally I want Caesar only because I wanna hang out with her. I’m not joking LOL. I did put a few pulls into the Jane Doe banner though… could’ve gotten both but I got Qingyi, and I don’t regret it
Do you have anything to say on what we should do in case we miss the 50-50% chance of dropping the character? Should I still try even if there aren`t enough Polychrome to get another 90 pulls?
It depends, do you really love the said character? If so I say keep trying cause you can get lucky! But also on another hand, you are now granted for your next character, so look at the characters coming up next and ask yourself. Would you rather have them instead? So that’s Burnice and Caesar, if the answer is no then keep trying for Jane! But if u get unlucky and don’t get Jane still, then save your pulls until the next character you really want comes since your now guaranteed! We are too early in the game rn to have super hard opinions on pulls and teams, so for right now just get who u like until there an abundance of characters in the game, then we can start thinking what should I get in terms of value? But I wish you the best of luck regardless!
@@KetteiThe7th_ Thanks! I've had luck in my previous pulls, but I'm not sure about this one. On another note, based on previous Hoyo games, do you have any idea of how long it usually takes for a character banner to repeat?
caesar will be good for shiyu defense or any content that doesn't need you to care about time, since her kit is good for sustainability which I believe later in the future there will be boss that can give a high crit damage as the mechanic for the challenge, but if you sure that you're not have skill issue then I think jane is good choice since her kit is easy to use, you can still push the assault game play even your enemy have weakness, I think assault damage still not reduce much
just log in a diferent region, its like having a new account where you can invest in pulls you couldt in your main, i got jane in the secondart while saving for cesar in the main account
Not zhu yuan nor ellen so i tried to pull her even if I don't really like her, but got an M1 neko instead, so now I'm just looking foward to version 1.2 and building my piper (i like her character more than jane but the difference in shiyu is obvious :( ) or maybe should I wait for burnice?
I really liked your video but I think it would have been better to release it sooner to help people make more informed decisions. As for me, I already pulled Jane. Wish I had watched this video sooner.
Already have established Ellen and ZY teams, did a 10 pull on the jane banner to grab a copy of seth and unexpectedly got Jane at low pitym so i decided to try for the weapon. Ended up getting an Early S weapon about 20 pulls in but i lost the 75/25 to a restrained, so I think my plan is to save the guaranteed weapon pity for Caesar's since it seems like a better boost for my account than Jane's weapon.
@@KetteiThe7th_ The pity carries over in genshin (in terms of your next weapon being a guaranteed featured one, but not the fate point thing), I haven't played star rail.
I luckily lost 50/50 10 pulls after getting Jane when I was trying to get 1 more copy of Seth, so now if I wanted I could get Caesar but I also want Burnice if she works well with Jane so will wait for their finished kits to decide.
Every character gonna get powercreep, jane doe and caesar too. There will be greater physical dps and there will be greater buffer. I dont need shield im quite confident on my dodge skill, but i need a king! All hail to the leader of the gang caesar king!
Skipped Jane because i already built Piper. Piper being a Calydon and me wanted to pull Burnice/Caesar....it just makes sense to go all in on the Sons.
Both could fit my team but I been more health for my characters so I’m just pulling on Jane’s just in case I get her but if I don’t I have pity for Caesar
@@KetteiThe7th_ Your guide here really made me feel better about going for Jane. Thanks!. Also, I do still want to try to get Caesar, mainly because I love her design, lol.
I won my 50 on Jane so I could go on Caesar without worries🥳 (so i'm on 158 pulls for Zhu Yuan and 78 pull for Jane). What worries me more is Burnice, for her unless an early I could not have her, even less if I lose a 50 on Caesar. 🤔 If I can't well...I can't I won't FOMO and take out the card (I like her design a little less anyway)
I got Jane because i had Grace, so i could pull an anomaly disorder team. I saved since the beggining of the game. Playing boring Anton, Grace and Anby. Now i got Jane and her weapon with Seth c2 and suddenly the game became an 10/10
@@KetteiThe7th_ thanks man! Now i am looking for Burnice... And the thing is... I bet Jane, Burnice and King would be AMAZING. But f2p is too much for that... I hope to see your videos on them!!!
If I have too many DPS units already, S11, Ellen and Nekomata, would Ceasar fit as a shield and stunner for Nekomata at least? Ellen has a team set and S11 only currently has Lucy.
I'm torn if I should skip Jane completely, I currently have 99 rolls (not counting the residual signals and residual polychromes) and 40 rolls till hard pity. My priority is absolutely Caesar, but I was thinking if I should try to roll Jane like 20 or till reaching soft pity, while still carrying enough to roll 125+ for Caesar, calculating that we should get at least 60 rolls on 1.2 Should I try to get Jane? Or the probability of not getting a character that I really want, too much of a risk despite me bringing quite a lot for Caesar?
Fire anomaly is dot and physical deals a burst of damage, so if you want Burnice, you are gonna have to pair her with another well-built anomaly to make her effective. While Jane wouldn't require such prerequisites. So Jane should be better Though Piper should be on Burnice's banner and you could use her but that would be gambling for copies since there is no guarantee for A ranks
If you have two team dps created i.e. zhu yuan and ellen then it make no sense to pull for jane unless you like her char. Caesar will be very2 strong for a long time until even they release new char like hoyoverse, bronya has still been my main til now. So same case caesar will be usable for end game content
@@someoneintheinternet. Caesar Jane and burnice will be a good team yes, but I fear most players won’t be able to make that team, so going Jane burnice Lucy is more plausible for most
All I had was Zhu Yuan, my only other DPS was Anton really since I only just recently pulled Piper(finally...). So Jane helps me round out my second team. Though I got fked in her Engine losing the 75/25 to Brimstone.
well, I am f2p player and I got lucky enough to have the m1 jane and her signature, even I hadn't touch the game since july, after I got Ellen, and even tho I have 11 days left do save money for the next charecter, so... why people skip banners so much?
@@KitKat-io1vx because a lot of players are super unlucky and it takes them so many pulls to get characters, and there’s plenty of people in my discord alone who have lost the 75/25 on the w engine banner multiple times already, so when u have that kinda history it makes u not want to pull unless you can guarantee the character or w engine
@@KetteiThe7th_ well, If you lose 50/50 or 75/25, the next banner is going to be guaranted, so why is build pity bad? and If you pull a character that is as good as Jane, It's not a big deal... I think in both cases building pity is a good strategy (and when you lose 50/50 in zzz isn't that hard to get the pity like It is in genshin, of course is bad loosing 50/50 or whatever, but having the guaranted next pull is worth It)
See this is where that only applies to an extremely small amount of players like yourself. The vast majority of players only want specific characters and even if a character is “strong” if players don’t like said character they don’t want to get them 9/10 times. So people simply skip banners cause they don’t want to risk not getting the characters they like the most. Only an extremely small percentage of players like yourself are ok with just accepting a 50/50 loss and just getting the next character, most players aren’t like that and losing a 50/50 is devastating cause even tho they can get the “next” character, they didn’t want that character, they wanted the character they lost the 50/50 too.
Ceasar's more supportive imo. Jane is probably better if you're looking for a new team, but ceasar is someone you can pull on if you want to buff your current carries. Some prime examples of this would be S11 or Nekomata.
@@WiffleWaffIe I have to hold strong for my KING
I really wish I knew that before I got jane lmao
Hu Tao vs Zhongli.
so basically, one should pull for caesar if they lost to s11 or nekomata on jane doe's banner
@@kissshot2261 thats the situation on my account as well XD Neko owner here haha
Neko - Caesar - Lucy will give Neko onfield buffs and shield protection on top of Lucy's buff.
Where as the current pairing with Piper, Piper is constantly switching out after an assault for Neko but needs to comeback in soon
I think Caesar is going to be more like Zhongli in Genshin who gives shield and a damage buff (through RES shred). And while other units have come and gone, Zhongli remains as the best "comfort" teammate for a majority of the content. Once you have the damage on your team for clearing content in time, having comfortability is going to make her more much more likely to be brought into teams in the long run. Particularly if we get a Red, harder repeatable half of the Survival Shiyu mode
Yea, ALL HAIL THE KING
The real answer is: Burnice.
Good luck to ya!
You spelled Billy Wrong…..
not if you don’t play anomaly
@@dantehamilton9127
The miyabi grind is real
I really wanted Jane when I first got to play her but when Caesar was announced I wanted her for her design until I saw she is a defender instead of an attacker. Should have known when she was revealed to have some kind of shield in an older trailer.
Now I‘m definitely gonna pull for Caesar though since I heard about the leaked buffs. 1000 attack buff and her being able to stun are the main reasons and the shield on top of it is nice too.
Currently have Zhu Yuan, Lycaon and Rina as my S rank agents and I have every A rank agent except for Anton.
Hopefully I‘ll get Caesar on the 50/50 so I can get Miyabi next because I missed out on Ellen. I‘m kinda worried that I‘ll lose the 50/50 so I won’t be able to guarantee Miyabi when she releases but maybe the polychromes we get by playing daily will suffice.
1.3 should be lighter and haramasa but we will wait to see if that’s true or not
Caesar King has more value right now because of the upcoming late game mode that favors defensive agents. But this also tells us how quickly the tide changes in this game, so no one is actually future proof right now.
I’m really enjoying Corrin and Ceaser seems like the perfect partner for her so I’m going for her.
+1 I love my Corin to dead and she currently can finish Shiyuu Defense S rank no prob. Despite her having many I-frame animations, she is a bit fragile imo so Caesar would do her well. The problem is it seems we also need to pull for Caesar's signature W-Engine. The current defense WE is very limited.
good luck to your caesar and burnice pulls!
@@walnutlover6510 just use BP engine. its Atk% mainstat and also transfers energy regen to corrin
My logic exactly. 🤝
Caesar, she will be invaluable, and time will prove me correct.
I think she's designed to pair with Lucy and together they'll create a meta core for any Fire of Physical attacker to easily pair with.
Yea we already got calcs for caesar lucy, theyll be great together
I was blessed by the gacha gods and got M1 Nekomata. Pulling Caesar for her stuns. The buffs she provides are a massive plus. This is a new account and I haven’t pulled for anyone yet. End game is about to be rough but I’m willing to wait for my KING🤞🏾
Good luck!
Both, to be frank, if you pulled Qingyi the only way for you my friend is go out there, find a time machine, undo your decision and save for Jane and Caesar instead.
LOL
Ahhh come on I don't regret pulling for my qingyi, I really like her
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No regrets getting M1 Qingyi shes awesome. Jane easy skip for me, Ellen and Zhu Yuan are slaying everything for me already
True, jean team not really reliant to stuner
I pulled for her and her wengine and I absolutely love it. She is stong af even if you play her without teammates. With traditional dps' most the time you spend on stunner and not dps and thats not how jane works, she just wanna be on field everytime and combining that with her amazing gameplay its so fun
when u know seth buff has ran out, look for a parry opportunity to switch him in and reapply the buff then use his quick assist to get jane back on the field!
Im glad someone is saying save for later based on their experience with previous hoyo games. People say just pull for who you want, but forget that only 10% of the roster are currently available right now. How can you know who you want to pull for? Better off saving
yep!
Pulling for who you want includes characters that aren't even out yet. Even some waaay down the line.
i see you, caesar king savers who were seduced by 🐀. ur not alone o7
i didnt pull tho? ALL HAIL THE KING
Yeah I pulled her, but I was prepared to my 50/50 so I can get Ceasar earlier 😿
Well luckily I was prepared for that outcome aswell 😼
yup i really thought i was gonna end up not having to spend money but oh 🐳 (i literally used all my saved polychromes for jane when i was originally saving them for caesar☠️)
I was tempted to get Jane but Piper is that good and the sons of Calydon seems to have better characters overall... so I'm getting both Caesar and Burnice
Great video! I was planning on skipping Jane but ended up getting her anyway (gamba addiction kicked in). Let’s just say I get the hype, she's insane. Although I will 100% get Caesar too, she’s a must-pull for me. Jane will also be great with Burnice I think
jane and burnice will be great imo as well!
I don't have either Ellen or Zhu Yuan, but I do have both Neko and Soldier 11. Jane sounds more like a replacement to Neko than a teammate, so I am not really too keen on pulling Jane. Caesar is tempting, though I've already cleared the disputed node and Nicole serves the support role just fine. I'm honestly leaning more towards Bernice, since, if she is indeed a back-linear dps, that could be nice for Soldier 11 and possibly a disorder team in the future.
Caesar would buff your neko and probably be part of neko best team for a LONG time, also burnice would buff your S11 as she would let s11 have 100% uptime off the fire set, since u only need to hit burning enemies and burn ice can keep the burn uptime extremely high
But do u like those characters? u would be the first to like soldier 11 that I heard of but that’s cool ur able to function with only the standard characters..I wish I had that ability 😂
@sumbunniii8721 Yeah, I have been able to S rank all of the end game content (Shiyu defense critical and disputed) with Neko and Soldier 11 with no trouble. I should probably mention I play with PS5 controls though. I can't imagine how difficult end game content must be on mobile.
@@theadventuresofdonny7122 oh wow that’s very interesting to hear. The only character I’ve pulled for & thought was worth it (I’m all about future proof units) thus far was Zhu yuan..so Cesar & burnice (maybe) are right up my alley. The only reason I’m hesitant about Jane is bc I don’t like/want to build piper, at all. & the only standard charc I’ve gotten is grace so far…so my account is kinda made for Jane. I’m just very concerned about her future proof ness…since it doesn’t seem there’s anything in her kit that would make her unique or special long term. It sounds like u got real lucky with standard banner..if I had neko it would be ez skip but who knows when I’ll get her. Btw there’s a leaked (way cooler imo) physical dps (or sub dps we don’t know yet) leopard thiren biker gal coming sometime in the future…but who knows she may even work with Jane. So idk what to do lol. 5 days left to decide.
I have this personal problem where I always have to finish my combo before dodging so I guess I have to pull Caesar lol
ALL HAIL THE KING
“I believed the future support will be better”
How about the future dps 😅 obviously they will be better
ofc as always, lol
Great vid. I completely agree with your point of view. Jane has much more value rn as either a second limited 5 star dps or your first limited 5 star dps.
I would only recommend Caesar king if you have a a Zhu Yuan/ Ellen team and your second team is either a nekomata team or piper team which doesn’t have koleda.
100% agree
Damn, I already have Ellen Team, Zhuyuan team. Got an early Jane trying to grab seth, and still sort of want Caesar, but do I really need 3 or 4 teams? It's unclear to me if Jane or Caesar absolutely needs their signature weapons too, which is another big consideration in budgeting.
@@youngwang5546 I feel you brother, I too am tempted to pull for Caesar but burnice holds far more value for my account atm, I’ll probably pull on a rerun banner.
Way I see it, anomaly character need their w engine far less as they are relatively easy to build, crit dps on the other hand benefit a lot from a crit sub stat on their weapon. Typically def units replace a stunner or support character so I don’t imagine Caesar king will have crit as part of her w engine.
Currently I would recommend holding off on w engines for non attack characters unless you really like the character.
I have Zhu yuan and jane this is best dps characters I have. so should I pull for her? Bc I want to get it.
@@CloudXQ you said “her” then “it” I’m not sure if you’re referring to Jane’s weapon or Caesar king. I’ll talk about both but feel free to clarify and I’ll elaborate further, if you want.
Between the two, if you must get one, characters are always more valuable but Caesar king would not add much to your account atm, assuming you have Seth. If you don’t have Seth, I would strongly recommend doing 10-20 pulls to try and get him, he holds immense value for Jane.
So, for your account specifically Jane’s weapon would probably be more of an immediate upgrade, and if you really like Jane go ahead and get her weapon.
Long term though, getting Caesar king would add more value as you eventually get new units to use with her or perhaps you already have Lucy, Nekomata or Piper who could work with her immediately ( Billy is also an option) but obviously you’d have to build up a third team.
I myself have Ellen & Zhu Yuan, did lose my 50/50 Qingyi to Lycaon, but rather keep the gurantee for Caesar. I've cleared Critical Node twice, and finished off all of Shiyu Defense. I'm interested in building a future fire team to break away from Physical/Ice/Ether imo :3
Good luck to ya!
I said this to my genshin buddy, i can't believe hoyo put a c2 nahida constellation into a m0 core skill base kit this early into the game. Jane Doe is a free pass to any content her kit (anomaly procs) can touch, she is looking to be a high quality f2p pull. But the Sons of Calydon Life is calling me!!
I come, I see, I crash!!!
Good luck to ya!
It's awesome that you've pointed out the thing I haven't even thought, Caesar is best for those who need shield. I've only seen her as a buffer. I guess it's better for me to wait for a limited support.
I really don't know what to pull, I don't have Ellen or Zhu Yuan, Caesar will fit in a pack with Piper and Lucy, and with Jane I can build a pack of Jane and Lucy's set. I don't know which team will be stronger and play better, do I need Jane's damage or will a pack of Sons of Calydon be stronger, lol
If u enjoy Piper then maybe go for Caesar and get a different elemental dps as I think have one of each type is very important
As a new player thats making do with Nekomata Anby and Nicole, i was pulling for Jane but stopped 10 pulls away of the 50/50 the moment i heard that Caeser was next.
I love the Sons of Calydor aesthetic and Caesar looks amazing.
Im going all in on both Caeser and Burnice.
ALL HAIL THE KING
I felt like you was gonna say get ready for the next battle with the way you were talking. It was the Tekken music lol.
Premium support is a must in every game.
For most i would agree, but not all
i skipped robo cop and im skipping Jane for Caesar. im down bad for the sword and shield wife. and ill use her as main dps too idc if shes a defense huhuhuhu. im looking for you to cover Caesar when she drops
ALL HAIL THE KING
A true man of quality. ALL HAIL TO THE KING!
Aye I saw my shiyu defense clear in the video thanks for showing it off honestly 🙏
@@Opprite it was really good!
if you want to replace any A rank stunner, support or defence characters, just get her. If you don't plan to replace any of those above, you can just get Jane or wait for future characters.
jane is also better for brand new players in 1.1 that missed on ellen and zhu yuan, having a good dps will help ALOT imo
If you don't have nekomata, get Jane. If you have Nekomata, then Caesar will be her best teamate.
Jane simps will disagree LOL
No lies here, Neko might be weaker than Jane but she is strong enough to clear any phys content with her super weaker teams right now. So imagine with Caesar.
I go purely by looks, so Im going to skip Jane and go for Ceasar and her weapon, all in on the king.
ALL HAIL THE KING!
jane doe look better therefore she's better for your account😩🙏
LOL
I actually think Ceasar looks better therefore she better for me
@@alexferrier5732I agree
Jane good for disorder team, and for a new physical team (don’t suggest u pull for her if u have neko and or piper built) While Caesar is good for buffing Physical team and slotting in for a support or Stun (Im pulling for caeser because #1 i want A Neko, Caesar and Piper team, and i want to be able to use lucy for my fire team if Physical weakness is on one side and fire weakness is on the other.
@@andrewcuomo5443 I prefer Jane in a hyper carry team compared to disorder, it just feels way better imo
the argument of support is right and wrong at the same time. Bronya IS STANDAR banner while Cesar is Limted. if you wanna compare it is to Sparkle or Ruan Mei. so has Ruan mei fall of from harmony class in HSR?
i think u miss my point, you can go to many videos and people are saying caesar will be one of the best buffers for a long time, and i dont believe so, I see caesar being a solid buffer, but the new supports added to the game will set a new standard for buffing.
Hence why I said bronya because people were saying the same thing about her, but in reality bronya is only solid while the new supports have set a new standard in HSR
@@KetteiThe7th_Also aplies to Ruanmei imo. Robin is just a whole new class of broken, while Ruanmei is only better in break teams. And people were saying Ruanmei is just the best at everything as well when she first came out. The same could be applied to Ceasar. I expect her to be best at only physical team, but future supports will probably be a more universal pick like Robin. Bronya is a standard character, and somehow still being used with certain characters over sparkle(Jingliu, Boothill), i think she’s still on par with both Sparkle and Ruanmei in terms of usage.
Great video. Great thumbnail. Hope you’re happy with this Kettei. 👌🏿👌🏿
I am!
I've decided that having two accounts would allow me to compare what it's like to have one without the other. I'm already set on saving for Caesar on my main with only 25 pulls left before guarantee. My second account has Jane and she's really fun. So I'm excited to see what it'd be like to have Caesar on my main
Good luck!
Jane is by far the most fun character in the game! I was on the fence on pulling or waiting. Thank god I pulled, she's my main over Zhu and Ellen who I already had :)
glad your having fun!
Did you get Jane's weapon too? I lost the 75/25 and wondering if its really worth it to keep going.
@youngwang5546 Personal opinion here, weapons are never worth it unless you're a whale, it's much better to just pull for characters you like for gameplay. As you continue playing this game for a long time, using the same characters over and over and over again could start to get boring. Being able to switch up characters for fun just seems much better than having a weapon that let's you clear things 10 to 20 seconds faster.
@@imadegenerate9867 that’s a good point. I’m already fully clearing all so far with time to spare, so it’s not like I need the weapon. Thanks for your input! I will save my pulls for Caesar or burnice , they look pretty fun.
@youngwang5546 Goodluck pulling them 🫡
which one do you prefer?
1. jane doe, burnice, caesar team
or
2. jane doe, burnice, seth team
after testing seth, maybe him tbh, he felt soooooo smooth to play, but need too test ceasar too
This is the first time i've felt a certain way about a rat....
first time?
LOL
What's so good about this is that if you pick Jane Doe right now, she will allow you to comfortably clear high-end content = more currencies. You sacrifice Caesar, yes, but by the time you really need her, she will probably get her rerun by then. As someone who has played Genshin since day 1, I skipped Zhongli in his first banner, then pulled for him a year later. Also, I have a 999em Kazuha with at least 187 ER with Xiphos, and while he's really good support, I still use Venti a lot more than Kazuha because his CC is just better. Venti never really became bad, and this is a testament that support in Hoyoverse games is valuable.
The difference in currency from S ranking is so small lol
1 year of S ranking compared to 1 year of A ranking is such a small difference lol. And when u factor in how much the average character costs, it would take years of a ranking everything to make up for a new character
@@KetteiThe7th_ F2p players needs every single currencies in this game lol and characters do get rerun as well (source me as day 1 genshin player) so you can always get them when you want to lmao. Also Jane Doe changes the way you play the game so that might make it worth it.
I swear I've seen this exact comment "such a small difference lol." like 4 years ago in the honeymoon period of Genshin lol. That takes me back to be honest. I'm not exactly f2p but those currencies no matter how small do add up.
The vast majority of f2p players i know from genshin dont even attempt the spiral aybss and they get all their favorite characters, so idk man I genuinely dont think its a big difference at all, Im a day one Hi3, Genshin, Star Rail and now ZZZ player. I have never felt the impact or difference at all from clearing all the content, the difference is quite literally so small
can you do a burnice video too? if shes a must pull vs caesar and jane?
sure
I was pulling on the banner because I wanted the mindscapes but I ended up pulling the rizz rat, and honestly I have the most fun when I’m playing qinyi as if you got the soulsborn skill you can’t be hit with her and now I’m thinking maybe I want someone who can do that and be the actual dps while it’s happening
unless you are downbad for a waifu, the most efficient way to play these hoyogachas imho is to only pull for a character every 2 patches at maximum
your newest chara will always be somewhat in the meta Hoyo is pushing at the time and you'll never be at 0 premium currency
I pulled for Zhu, skipping this one, then getting Caesar and Burnice (the waifu that proves the rule i guess haha) then skipping whatever 1.3 is gonna and wait for miyabi
If a character does end up being hella broken, reruns are a thing so just wait
The nice thing about ZZZ is that execution matters as in, if Jane is meta, but i dont like playing her style, then its a skip (where as in HSR, all "execution" is mostly how yr planning your artifact grinding and pulls etc, which is a fun metagame in of itself)
Someone beat all of shiyu IN TIME with Billy solo, so skill does help ALOT, lol
Miyabi and Section 6 are coming after Calydon so 1.3
@@KetteiThe7th_ayoooo my boy billy
I think Section 6 with Miyabi comes right after the Calydons so you may be cooked without paying.
Well, I got really lucky on my Jane pulls. Leaving me with still a'lot of polychromes enough to guarantee me Caesar so, we're golden 😎
Nice to hear!
I chose to and ended up pulling for Jane Doe. I need her for a second team because I was lucky (or unlucky enough, I guess) to only unlock all of the S-tier Support and non-DPS Agents. While this means I can be flexible with my roster picks for my Zhu Yuan, it also means that I lack a capable DPS. I was running Piper and Grace for an anomaly disorder team, but after seeing Jane’s kit and trying it out, I knew I had to get her to round out my second team and after building her, she has been melting enemies!
As much as I would love to get Caesar, I gotta save up my pulls for Burnice to really make my second team soar!
Good Luck!
I love king so I will try to get her❤
ALL HAIL THE KING
caesar is possibly one the strongest buffer while jane have a higher chance to get power crept since she's a dps
@@quandalebackbling I really feel once limited supports comes to the game they will outshine Caesar buff, Caesar will just be nice comfort in the future
@@KetteiThe7th_ oh right, i forgot caesar is a defense unit, which means we can use it with upcoming support units that's also a buffer
250 PULLS : 3 JANE m2, HER W-ENGINE AND 1 KOLEDA. M6 Anby and m6 Seth. I’m Blessed . Best Guide Out There for our Rat. 🐀
lol i had 230 pulls got 3 janes 1 wolfy boy c6 seth and anby ;3 ty game!
yoooo, i used to watch you LOL
I will never understand the players who get cons over new characters, especially in the start of the game where so many awesome characters are soon to come that u will now have to skip. But hey, to each their own lol 😅
@@sumbunniii8721 u can always roll for each char hahaha
@@alavien well yea if u have enough saved, unless u use ur wallet? But typically at the start of a gacha game it’s important to have variety, & most units will be powercrept anyways so it’s best to wait until u invest into one character but again, to each their own.
Personally I want Caesar only because I wanna hang out with her. I’m not joking LOL. I did put a few pulls into the Jane Doe banner though… could’ve gotten both but I got Qingyi, and I don’t regret it
Do you have anything to say on what we should do in case we miss the 50-50% chance of dropping the character? Should I still try even if there aren`t enough Polychrome to get another 90 pulls?
It depends, do you really love the said character? If so I say keep trying cause you can get lucky!
But also on another hand, you are now granted for your next character, so look at the characters coming up next and ask yourself. Would you rather have them instead? So that’s Burnice and Caesar, if the answer is no then keep trying for Jane! But if u get unlucky and don’t get Jane still, then save your pulls until the next character you really want comes since your now guaranteed!
We are too early in the game rn to have super hard opinions on pulls and teams, so for right now just get who u like until there an abundance of characters in the game, then we can start thinking what should I get in terms of value? But I wish you the best of luck regardless!
@@KetteiThe7th_ Thanks! I've had luck in my previous pulls, but I'm not sure about this one. On another note, based on previous Hoyo games, do you have any idea of how long it usually takes for a character banner to repeat?
3-12 months
Isn't Jane-Burnice-Caesar an ideal team? Or is Seth better there instead of Caesar?
Need to test it
I missed my Jane and got rina but now I get a ceaser so it’s a win win… I guess😐
You can still try for Jane!
@@KetteiThe7th_ thanks for believing
caesar will be good for shiyu defense or any content that doesn't need you to care about time, since her kit is good for sustainability which I believe later in the future there will be boss that can give a high crit damage as the mechanic for the challenge, but if you sure that you're not have skill issue then I think jane is good choice since her kit is easy to use, you can still push the assault game play even your enemy have weakness, I think assault damage still not reduce much
Yea, that’s why I made it a point in the video, if your a skilled player Caesar loses some value
just log in a diferent region, its like having a new account where you can invest in pulls you couldt in your main, i got jane in the secondart while saving for cesar in the main account
Not zhu yuan nor ellen so i tried to pull her even if I don't really like her, but got an M1 neko instead, so now I'm just looking foward to version 1.2 and building my piper (i like her character more than jane but the difference in shiyu is obvious :( ) or maybe should I wait for burnice?
piper and burnice will do great together!
I really liked your video but I think it would have been better to release it sooner to help people make more informed decisions. As for me, I already pulled Jane. Wish I had watched this video sooner.
im so srry, man I know I shouldve got it out quicker I really apologize
I was planning on pulling Jane but lost the 50/50 to M1 Neko and decided to stop & save my guarantee to get Caesar and Burnice. Long live the Sons! 🔥
@@nyaaalex ALL HAIL THE KING
I skipped jane cuz i made it my whole content with actual team all shiyu s rank with zhu yuan and nekomata.
So i think getting this one would be good to improve nekomata teams, taking in count my nekomata is m1
Good luck to ya!
Already have established Ellen and ZY teams, did a 10 pull on the jane banner to grab a copy of seth and unexpectedly got Jane at low pitym so i decided to try for the weapon. Ended up getting an Early S weapon about 20 pulls in but i lost the 75/25 to a restrained, so I think my plan is to save the guaranteed weapon pity for Caesar's since it seems like a better boost for my account than Jane's weapon.
Weapon pity doesn’t carry over, at least it doesn’t in Genshin and Star rail, did they change it for ZZZ? I can’t imagine they did
@@KetteiThe7th_ The pity carries over in genshin (in terms of your next weapon being a guaranteed featured one, but not the fate point thing), I haven't played star rail.
Yea the pity carries over but I don’t think the guranteed carries over for ZZZ you might want to check
Holy edit improvement!
amen
I luckily lost 50/50 10 pulls after getting Jane when I was trying to get 1 more copy of Seth, so now if I wanted I could get Caesar but I also want Burnice if she works well with Jane so will wait for their finished kits to decide.
Good decision!
I’m still working on my Ellen team and my zhu yuan team so hopefully Caesar can fit into one of those teams
she can
KING 👑 🙌🏻
I want that parry like ben
ALL HAIL THE KING
Every character gonna get powercreep, jane doe and caesar too. There will be greater physical dps and there will be greater buffer.
I dont need shield im quite confident on my dodge skill, but i need a king! All hail to the leader of the gang caesar king!
Skipped Jane because i already built Piper. Piper being a Calydon and me wanted to pull Burnice/Caesar....it just makes sense to go all in on the Sons.
ALL HAIL THE KING
@@KetteiThe7th_ Sons of Calydon will rule and im all for it 🙏🏿
Both could fit my team but I been more health for my characters so I’m just pulling on Jane’s just in case I get her but if I don’t I have pity for Caesar
Good luck to ya!
Going for both, may RNJesus bless me.
Good luck!
I have a skill isssue. Usually I pull for who I like more , which is Jane, but in this case I am going with meta.
@@tweezy5804 Jane is meta tho lol, but Caesar will be very comfy
I have Zhu Yuan but didn't get Ellen so I went for Jane to have two good DPS characters for content clearing.
Yea Jane was perfect for u!
@@KetteiThe7th_ Your guide here really made me feel better about going for Jane. Thanks!. Also, I do still want to try to get Caesar, mainly because I love her design, lol.
ALL HAIL THE KING
I have Jane and I'm only 40 away from another S so should I get Jane M1 or Ceasar?
Caesar or save for another character
Got jane on my first 10 pull.. 😊 planning to get caezar also
Good luck!
I won my 50 on Jane so I could go on Caesar without worries🥳 (so i'm on 158 pulls for Zhu Yuan and 78 pull for Jane).
What worries me more is Burnice, for her unless an early I could not have her, even less if I lose a 50 on Caesar. 🤔
If I can't well...I can't I won't FOMO and take out the card (I like her design a little less anyway)
I got Jane because i had Grace, so i could pull an anomaly disorder team. I saved since the beggining of the game. Playing boring Anton, Grace and Anby. Now i got Jane and her weapon with Seth c2 and suddenly the game became an 10/10
Nice to hear!
@@KetteiThe7th_ thanks man! Now i am looking for Burnice... And the thing is... I bet Jane, Burnice and King would be AMAZING. But f2p is too much for that... I hope to see your videos on them!!!
My tip is to get them both. Reroll if necessary.
Idk bout you guys but my favorite zzz character is caesar king
Already have jane doe, next char recommend pull king or burnice for my 3rd slot my jane doe team?
do you enjoy seth? if so I would say burnice, but i need to wait and see if they change burnice passive first, i really hope they do
If I have too many DPS units already, S11, Ellen and Nekomata, would Ceasar fit as a shield and stunner for Nekomata at least? Ellen has a team set and S11 only currently has Lucy.
Caesar would be perfect for neko!
I think Caesar will work with both Nekomata and Soldier 11, using Lucy as the third teammate for both teams!
I'm torn if I should skip Jane completely, I currently have 99 rolls (not counting the residual signals and residual polychromes) and 40 rolls till hard pity. My priority is absolutely Caesar, but I was thinking if I should try to roll Jane like 20 or till reaching soft pity, while still carrying enough to roll 125+ for Caesar, calculating that we should get at least 60 rolls on 1.2
Should I try to get Jane? Or the probability of not getting a character that I really want, too much of a risk despite me bringing quite a lot for Caesar?
see how much u have on the last day of jane banner, then look at it again
@@KetteiThe7th_ I see, how much rolls do you think I should carry over to Caesar?
150 and you’ll be good, cause if u lose 50/50 u will still have enough time to grind for a couple weeks and get her
@@KetteiThe7th_ got it, I’ll keep that in mind, thanks!
Me watching after m2s1 jane with 34 polychromes leftover: 😀
LOL
I've Koleda, and no top tier DPS chars. Do you think is better to wait for Burnice, or pull for Jane?
Fire anomaly is dot and physical deals a burst of damage, so if you want Burnice, you are gonna have to pair her with another well-built anomaly to make her effective. While Jane wouldn't require such prerequisites. So Jane should be better
Though Piper should be on Burnice's banner and you could use her but that would be gambling for copies since there is no guarantee for A ranks
@@nautica3241He is more likely to get Piper than Burnice.
@palegangsta 1 Piper, sure, but going all the way to M6 is a gamble
My reply didn’t come through earlier? I do think Jane is worth it for you tho
@@KetteiThe7th_ Thanks! No, this is your first reply! So I will skip Burnice and I will try to pull Jane.
Who let Keith cook!? The waifu sniffer 2:15 always make me laugh.
@@Holduplethimcook-l5g LOL
I lost 50/50 on Jane’s banner to Solider 11. Should I get Ceaser? I love both their designs.
Do u want a new on field dps? or a flexible support?
Wouldn't Jane benefit from Ceasar being on her team? I was thinking Jane, Seth and Ceasar
shields dont stack, so either seth would cancel saesar buff or caesar would cancel out seth buff
If you have two team dps created i.e. zhu yuan and ellen then it make no sense to pull for jane unless you like her char. Caesar will be very2 strong for a long time until even they release new char like hoyoverse, bronya has still been my main til now. So same case caesar will be usable for end game content
I said this lol, Jane is good for those lacking 2 teams or new players
I got jane and plan to get ceasar king because theyre both hot
I SamZ0N3 have 600 polychromes, 80 encrypted master tapes, a guaranteed pity, and a dream.
(GOTTA SAVE UP FOR CAESER RAHHH)
ALL HAIL THE KING
Jane koleda burnice hopefully (I just need burnice got the other two and their weapons)
My account is made up of everyone, I have so much time I can just grind out every character.
man that alot of resources lol, i could never
So caesar is just basicly Seth. Good to know
@@realcjace0824 her buffs are more universal, as better for most characters, shield is bigger, a better parry, and can stun faster
The real question is, Will caesar be a good teammate for jane?
@@someoneintheinternet. Caesar Jane and burnice will be a good team yes, but I fear most players won’t be able to make that team, so going Jane burnice Lucy is more plausible for most
Correct Answer: Skip Ellen and JuYuan, pull both Jane and Caesar.
but haters are gonna hate, let's see what hating comments they have this time V
Wasn't there when ellen was here ( I regret it bc my 2nd rank S agent was lycaon and I got the bangboo from victoria haousekeeping )
dang ellen wouldve been nice for ya then
@@KetteiThe7th_ Ellen has some movements that actually hit/slash slow..... I didn't like it when I tried her out.
Yea, I meant the guy above lol, he said he got lyacon and the butler boo but has no Ellen
This is like picking your favorite son.
im saving for the void hunter
good luck!
All I had was Zhu Yuan, my only other DPS was Anton really since I only just recently pulled Piper(finally...). So Jane helps me round out my second team. Though I got fked in her Engine losing the 75/25 to Brimstone.
I lost the 75/25 to Restrained - Are you gonna keep pulling or just use an A rank?
@@youngwang5546 Have to use an A rank. I'm out of pulls just gonna wait for her rerun.
Got Qingyi, so Skipping both. I'm saving for Miyabi. I liked the Granny Android too much.
The CLANK was strong wasnt it? LOL
@@KetteiThe7th_ Too strong for my Sapphic monkey brain. Though I also just vibe with her as a character and play style.
Gonna take a wild guess and say the character that hasn’t even been released yet?
I would agree for most, but my stream chat disagreed lol
I got Jane early I may be able to get Ceasar as well
Good luck!
well, I am f2p player and I got lucky enough to have the m1 jane and her signature, even I hadn't touch the game since july, after I got Ellen, and even tho I have 11 days left do save money for the next charecter, so... why people skip banners so much?
@@KitKat-io1vx because a lot of players are super unlucky and it takes them so many pulls to get characters, and there’s plenty of people in my discord alone who have lost the 75/25 on the w engine banner multiple times already, so when u have that kinda history it makes u not want to pull unless you can guarantee the character or w engine
@@KetteiThe7th_ well, If you lose 50/50 or 75/25, the next banner is going to be guaranted, so why is build pity bad? and If you pull a character that is as good as Jane, It's not a big deal... I think in both cases building pity is a good strategy (and when you lose 50/50 in zzz isn't that hard to get the pity like It is in genshin, of course is bad loosing 50/50 or whatever, but having the guaranted next pull is worth It)
See this is where that only applies to an extremely small amount of players like yourself. The vast majority of players only want specific characters and even if a character is “strong” if players don’t like said character they don’t want to get them 9/10 times. So people simply skip banners cause they don’t want to risk not getting the characters they like the most. Only an extremely small percentage of players like yourself are ok with just accepting a 50/50 loss and just getting the next character, most players aren’t like that and losing a 50/50 is devastating cause even tho they can get the “next” character, they didn’t want that character, they wanted the character they lost the 50/50 too.
4:06 precisely, I want Caesar because I already have both Ellen and Zhu Yuan and I want to make my 4* DPS shine by adding Caesar into the team.
Yep!
Same
DPS vs Utility, I rather have utility units on my Account. I can just Billy the content tbh.
already pulled jane lol
still a great pickup!