Logging has come a long way since 1970 when you could a make a fair living with a single axle truck with a side loader, a chain saw and a good mule.WOW😎
Incredibly kind thing to say! I'm so glad that came through on the video! Because they are very skilled men who work very hard! Appreciate your comment!
I knew Louie Gibson well. I remember logging projects next to his company when we contracted for Boise Cascade up above Ellensburg in the early 1990's. Glad to see Gibson & Son Logging is still going. I am sure Louie and my Brother David are up in heaven in this moment, figuring out the next project to do )))))) Keep it up Gibson & Son. !!!
Lol for sure🤣🤣🤣 where is here spruce 4? I'm always curious about different operations in different parts of the world!!! I appreciate the kind words... I have fun making the videos just a hobby for me when I'm not operating😁😁😁
Appreciate the feedback will try and include some interaction of the crew next time. Hard part about that is the drone doesnt collect audio so I would have to record audio with another device and then add it into the video. But I could maybe do some interviews and/or include some radio chatter. Alot of their communication is done through CB radio...
Outstanding job on the video. You can tell someone put some effort into this. That's a very mechanized operation you have going and that equipment looks new. I wonder how the costs of equipment/maintenence/fuel/operating costs fare against a yarder operation. I suppose there's applications for both either way but running that new equip and keeping it going is pricey. What impressed me is that Tigercat felling machine. If the terrain allows for one of those I can see how that really speeds up the process vs felling with a chainsaw. I think the mechanized stuff is real cool and its here to stay but I would find it interesting to do an cost analyst on mechanized vs cable equipment.
Mechanized operations like this are, among many things, much safer than cable only operations. All the operators are in, essentially, bullet proof steel boxes with windows. They aren't exposed to the elements or the hazards that typically are attributed to a cable operation. Sure, the iron costs a LOT more than a guy on a chainsaw, with each of these machines running in the range of 300-500+K, BUT.... you'll get operators more willing to stick around longer if they run iron, rather than chasing chokers on the hillside. Can't provide the cost analysis on a $1000 chainsaw and operator verses a $500+k fellerbuncher, but...
Thanks for your response. I suspose its another generation and its getting difficult to retain experiancied hands and even at that Im in my late 40's and its more difficult to walk these hills as i age. I think i need to remember that my generation and those before it had a much more demanding life physically than most folks today. Guess i need to accept that labor is becoming largely less of a commodity as tech changes and timber gets smaller in diameter and age. More like its farming timber in this day and age. Believe it or not i still remember branding logs as a kid and floating them down to a mill
That is a great video and what looks like a nice operation , can someone with more forestry knowledge than me explain the difference in this operation compared to what I am more familiar with in the UK and Europe . Here most wood would be cut with a wheeled or tracked harvester and the branches stripped and the wood cut to length where the it grows, and the resulting wood moved to the loading's area by a wheeled forwarder in very steep ground both machines could be assisted by a winch either on or off the machine . Where in the video that stand is cut with a feller buncher dropped , re handled by 1 or 2 other excavators to group them skidded to a clearing and further processing to remove branches and cut to length then ultimately loading , plus a dozer and winch to help clear up some stuff in comparison the operation shown uses at least 3 more machines and operators so i assume is more costly. What the reason for one process vs the other ? the timber looks to be getting cut to longer lengths than what would usually be done in the UK but does not look so long it would not fit in a forwarders bunk is it the diameter of the wood , the steepness of the hill or some other ??
Steepness of terrain and max dia and length of timber, much of Europe is cultivated timber tracts, meaning the ground is more level in general i.e. "groomed" with out many massive rocks and what not, and the timber more of an equal growth size. The steepness of West Coast US/CA terrain isn't really done justice in video, while wheeled forwarders/processors are not unheard of out here, you won't likely see them away from the valley floors. The Timber out here for most "harvestable" timber ranges from 80'-180' (ish though there is plenty taller then 180') (24-54M ish) weighing in at close to 5 ton or more per tree... so a wheeled processor on steep ground, even a leveling cab version, just aint up to it. The other factor, and this video didn't really do it justice, most of our logs are in the 40'(12M) lengths, processing and skidding them to one location to then be loaded on trucks is more efficient tree length, instead of a whole mess of short logs per tree we get 2-3 long logs and a shorty for the pulp loads. This is also partly to do with how the trucks are set up and the loaders necessary to load them, the West Coast piggy back trailer set up isn't light per se, and takes a bit of grunt to get it off the truck, more then most forwarders are up too, even a 20 ton excavator has trouble with it (though it can be done lift height becomes an issue in a hurry) So since you have a massive machine (25-35 ton machines) already on the landing, might as well put it to use sorting logs while waiting on trucks, and let the processor just limb and buck
Yes they are standard. And yes they really light it up for the operators, makes a huuuge difference. The forestry side definitely has more lights than the dirt equipment🙄🙄🙄
@@justkelcey4179 I noticed that I put TYRI lights on two of my machines to help improve lighting. They design various sizes that match up to the manufactures so its an easy swap. awesome video love it!
@@TylerBemis I will have to check that out. Amazing what a difference being able to see makes🤣🤣🤣 gotta say I'm pretty jealous of your tilt bucket on your 305🤤🤤🤤 I haven't seen a tilt bucket with a thumb before. Thats what always kept my boss from getting us one. I campaigned pretty hard for one for a while. I think they are cool but could never imagine giving up a thumb for what we do. Lots of clearing/building road residential utilities. But man are those awesome machines! We had a 305.5 and that thing is a beast. Appreciate the kind words friend! Gonna try and get a few more out here in the near future... they just take me a while cause I'm stil figuring it out🤣🤣🤣 just a hobby for me.
Thank you! Working on some new ones at the moment but since this is a hobby for me they take a little longer than I'd like😬😬😬 and yes wood is sorted by species and size depending on the sale...
Nice video. I have noticed that excavators (albeit somewhat modified) are commonly used in American forestry, instead of the typical (at least in Europe) harvester+forwarder combo. Is this just due to tradition, or price or something else?
Terrific video! Well shot and edited. What type of drone are you flying and what app are you editing with? My wife is interested in trying her hand at it. Thanks!
We actually tried one out but the operators liked the cat better. To be fair it had way undersized graples on it but yeah they preferred the cat. Awesome machine though, it had the rear entry cab and dual swing motors. Really like tiger cat equipment and their service!
@@justkelcey4179 that would be the 870 to 890 and the 855 is there small shovel logger and i can get that old guys would not like there control setup because it not like excavator controls that everone else use
@@justkelcey4179 same as the 830 feller bucher that's why so many are going for them and that are like gibson and son that don't do yarder logging any more and use the tigercat 855 with tether/tractionline winch assist what ever all they want to call it
@@donnebes9421you definently matter! I appreciate the feedback and I agree but unfortunately my drone doesn't record audio. Maybe the next time I will add some other footage that has sounds of equipment.
Cutter operator here will work a shovel man to death, u can do so much more to help the man behind u from This cutter I can tell he just getting wood down which isn’t easy keeping ahead with this much Equitment behind him lol but he could without a dout help the shovels put a lot more
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Logging has come a long way since 1970 when you could a make a fair living with a single axle truck with a side loader, a chain saw and a good mule.WOW😎
@Just Kelcey the machine operators have mastered their skill... this is a team second to none!!. Much Respect!!!
Incredibly kind thing to say! I'm so glad that came through on the video! Because they are very skilled men who work very hard! Appreciate your comment!
I knew Louie Gibson well. I remember logging projects next to his company when we contracted for Boise Cascade up above Ellensburg in the early 1990's. Glad to see Gibson & Son Logging is still going. I am sure Louie and my Brother David are up in heaven in this moment, figuring out the next project to do ))))))
Keep it up Gibson & Son. !!!
Yep his son Kory and his wife Kris are doing one heck of a job. Some big shoes to fill but they are killing it! He was one heck of a guy!
Awesome video....miss the great north west.....remember going with my dad to work building logging roads around St.Helens many many years ago.
Thank you sir! It is beautiful country!
Watched the video again, reminds me of like a tim Burton nightmare before Christmas movie the way it looks, keep it up, I miss running my heel boom.
Slick video, good looking operation, can't wait for more.
Thank you sir!
Great video! You guys are next level for sure. That's highball crew!
@thebadwolf THANK YOU! Appreciate the kind words friend! And yes they are a great crew!
Awesome video
Super nice equipment
I was reading a few comments, people are gonna complain about something lol cool videos a lot different logging than here
Lol for sure🤣🤣🤣 where is here spruce 4? I'm always curious about different operations in different parts of the world!!! I appreciate the kind words... I have fun making the videos just a hobby for me when I'm not operating😁😁😁
@@justkelcey4179 I'm in maine the far northeast lol
@@pine8806 oh cool! When I get some time I'll check out your videos... stay safe out there!
@@justkelcey4179 10-4 ill keep looking for your videos when you get a chance
Awesome video I almost thought it was a RC video
I honestly thought this was rc till I saw the person😂
Just found your channel. Love this vid man very nicely done... looking forward to more vids... 👍
Thank you sir!
Slick video, love that Tigercat!
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Thank you sir! And happy you subscribed. I am headed to Arizona to start filming my next one. Cant wait to start working on it... glad you liked it
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Surprised you don't have more traffic on this video, it was great! Pretty good slopes
Thanks! That's a really nice thing to say! Feel free to share it with your friends😁😁😁
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Nice video Rip louie
I like the video but if I’m going to watch more I would want to meet the crew hear any watch the guys interact and not just fly overs and music
Appreciate the feedback will try and include some interaction of the crew next time. Hard part about that is the drone doesnt collect audio so I would have to record audio with another device and then add it into the video. But I could maybe do some interviews and/or include some radio chatter. Alot of their communication is done through CB radio...
Outstanding job on the video. You can tell someone put some effort into this. That's a very mechanized operation you have going and that equipment looks new. I wonder how the costs of equipment/maintenence/fuel/operating costs fare against a yarder operation. I suppose there's applications for both either way but running that new equip and keeping it going is pricey. What impressed me is that Tigercat felling machine. If the terrain allows for one of those I can see how that really speeds up the process vs felling with a chainsaw.
I think the mechanized stuff is real cool and its here to stay but I would find it interesting to do an cost analyst on mechanized vs cable equipment.
Mechanized operations like this are, among many things, much safer than cable only operations. All the operators are in, essentially, bullet proof steel boxes with windows. They aren't exposed to the elements or the hazards that typically are attributed to a cable operation. Sure, the iron costs a LOT more than a guy on a chainsaw, with each of these machines running in the range of 300-500+K, BUT.... you'll get operators more willing to stick around longer if they run iron, rather than chasing chokers on the hillside.
Can't provide the cost analysis on a $1000 chainsaw and operator verses a $500+k fellerbuncher, but...
Your L&I for cable is around 16-18 hour versus a couple bucks for mechanical all depending on experience factor and claims.
Thanks for your response. I suspose its another generation and its getting difficult to retain experiancied hands and even at that Im in my late 40's and its more difficult to walk these hills as i age. I think i need to remember that my generation and those before it had a much more demanding life physically than most folks today. Guess i need to accept that labor is becoming largely less of a commodity as tech changes and timber gets smaller in diameter and age. More like its farming timber in this day and age.
Believe it or not i still remember branding logs as a kid and floating them down to a mill
Badass footage!
That is a great video and what looks like a nice operation , can someone with more forestry knowledge than me explain the difference in this operation compared to what I am more familiar with in the UK and Europe . Here most wood would be cut with a wheeled or tracked harvester and the branches stripped and the wood cut to length where the it grows, and the resulting wood moved to the loading's area by a wheeled forwarder in very steep ground both machines could be assisted by a winch either on or off the machine . Where in the video that stand is cut with a feller buncher dropped , re handled by 1 or 2 other excavators to group them skidded to a clearing and further processing to remove branches and cut to length then ultimately loading , plus a dozer and winch to help clear up some stuff in comparison the operation shown uses at least 3 more machines and operators so i assume is more costly. What the reason for one process vs the other ? the timber looks to be getting cut to longer lengths than what would usually be done in the UK but does not look so long it would not fit in a forwarders bunk is it the diameter of the wood , the steepness of the hill or some other ??
Steepness of terrain and max dia and length of timber, much of Europe is cultivated timber tracts, meaning the ground is more level in general i.e. "groomed" with out many massive rocks and what not, and the timber more of an equal growth size.
The steepness of West Coast US/CA terrain isn't really done justice in video, while wheeled forwarders/processors are not unheard of out here, you won't likely see them away from the valley floors.
The Timber out here for most "harvestable" timber ranges from 80'-180' (ish though there is plenty taller then 180') (24-54M ish) weighing in at close to 5 ton or more per tree... so a wheeled processor on steep ground, even a leveling cab version, just aint up to it.
The other factor, and this video didn't really do it justice, most of our logs are in the 40'(12M) lengths, processing and skidding them to one location to then be loaded on trucks is more efficient tree length, instead of a whole mess of short logs per tree we get 2-3 long logs and a shorty for the pulp loads. This is also partly to do with how the trucks are set up and the loaders necessary to load them, the West Coast piggy back trailer set up isn't light per se, and takes a bit of grunt to get it off the truck, more then most forwarders are up too, even a 20 ton excavator has trouble with it (though it can be done lift height becomes an issue in a hurry) So since you have a massive machine (25-35 ton machines) already on the landing, might as well put it to use sorting logs while waiting on trucks, and let the processor just limb and buck
@@northmanlogging2769 that's great thanks for your in depth answer its much appreciated and see the reasoning behind it now .
thanks again
The LEDs look sick on the machines do you know if those are coming standard on the Cat forestry equipment now?
Yes they are standard. And yes they really light it up for the operators, makes a huuuge difference. The forestry side definitely has more lights than the dirt equipment🙄🙄🙄
@@justkelcey4179 I noticed that I put TYRI lights on two of my machines to help improve lighting. They design various sizes that match up to the manufactures so its an easy swap. awesome video love it!
@@TylerBemis I will have to check that out. Amazing what a difference being able to see makes🤣🤣🤣 gotta say I'm pretty jealous of your tilt bucket on your 305🤤🤤🤤 I haven't seen a tilt bucket with a thumb before. Thats what always kept my boss from getting us one. I campaigned pretty hard for one for a while. I think they are cool but could never imagine giving up a thumb for what we do. Lots of clearing/building road residential utilities. But man are those awesome machines! We had a 305.5 and that thing is a beast. Appreciate the kind words friend! Gonna try and get a few more out here in the near future... they just take me a while cause I'm stil figuring it out🤣🤣🤣 just a hobby for me.
Just found this in my recommended tab... What's the second song?? Also awesome operation!
Great video. More please. Are the trees separated by species?
Thank you! Working on some new ones at the moment but since this is a hobby for me they take a little longer than I'd like😬😬😬 and yes wood is sorted by species and size depending on the sale...
Nice video. I have noticed that excavators (albeit somewhat modified) are commonly used in American forestry, instead of the typical (at least in Europe) harvester+forwarder combo. Is this just due to tradition, or price or something else?
@Slaindxx I see! Thanks.
Good job broo
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Holy smokes that’s a lot of shovels! Big capital there!!
Terrific video! Well shot and edited. What type of drone are you flying and what app are you editing with? My wife is interested in trying her hand at it. Thanks!
Thank you very much! I used the Dji phantom 4 pro with final cut pro to edit.
What drone did you use? Check out my logging drone videos.
I use a phantom 4 pro... you have some awesome videos! Nice work!
What did you use for editing?
Final cut pro
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looking like a tigercat 855 shovel would work vary nice for how gibson and son now
We actually tried one out but the operators liked the cat better. To be fair it had way undersized graples on it but yeah they preferred the cat. Awesome machine though, it had the rear entry cab and dual swing motors. Really like tiger cat equipment and their service!
@@justkelcey4179 that would be the 870 to 890 and the 855 is there small shovel logger and i can get that old guys would not like there control setup because it not like excavator controls that everone else use
@@matthewchurch1320 yeah you're right it was the 870... does the 855 have the self leveling cab?
@@justkelcey4179 same as the 830 feller bucher that's why so many are going for them and that are like gibson and son that don't do yarder logging any more and use the tigercat 855 with tether/tractionline winch assist what ever all they want to call it
I bet that brong a hole new adrenaline rush to logging
would they be the swamp loggers from down south
These are ridge loggers from up north😀
Good 1
Thank you sir!
Its not better to use europinian harvesters and forwarders up there? Good luck!
2:45 he fell LMAO
That was pretty funny 🤣🤣🤣 some steep ground camera really flattens it out
The background music DESTROYED the video. Can't watch it with the sound on.
Appreciate the feedback... it's pretty tough to find "copyright free" music. What would be your suggestion?
Just Kelcey I know I don’t matter but I’d much rather hear the sounds of the equipment as they are working rather than music. Still good video.
@@donnebes9421you definently matter! I appreciate the feedback and I agree but unfortunately my drone doesn't record audio. Maybe the next time I will add some other footage that has sounds of equipment.
@@donnebes9421 the roar of the drone propellers would cover any sounds of the logging equipment
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Is this computer animated or RC.... laughs
Real life... filmed with phantom 4 pro. All in 4K
Cutter operator here will work a shovel man to death, u can do so much more to help the man behind u from This cutter I can tell he just getting wood down which isn’t easy keeping ahead with this much Equitment behind him lol but he could without a dout help the shovels put a lot more
Great video
wyh alll tree wyh?????its normal?????????????????hiiiii why all tree cut down ??no regulare no noo nooo why??????? smoll jung alll