I fitted my mod to the first of my Light Sixers successfully enough. The difference in picture quality was apparent, I'm pretty happy with it. Many thanks. One tip for modders; if you reassemble the 2600 and find that you have a B&W picture, dont disassemble the unit and check your soldering and cable routing.....check that the "Color/B&W" switch is set to "Color" first :) DAMHIK
The better install tip is to measure which pin on the TIA chip is ground and line that up with ground on the cleancomp. On my console the notch on the chip was on the opposite side of Luke's when having it oriented to be readable. Those so many dang revisions of these boards!
wow....just saw this now! I was looking a long time for a quality mod. Since the mod from Tim Worthington is no more available I had to go with the UAV-mod from the Brewing Company. It works fine, but yours would have been a lot easier to install and also cheaper, since the audio is included. Too bad I was late to see this. I'm coming back in the future! Nice products in your shop!!
For uncompressed raw image captures checkout RetroSix.co.uk product page for CleanComp. I've noticed the TH-cam video compression is adding artifacts to the captures that are not present on the end screen
This was exactly what I was needing. 2 ordered today, many thanks. I may stick a blob of hot glue under the board for a little bit of extra strain relief, as I can be clumsy with wiring. Cheers.
Whilst I have moved on to RGB Video gaming. I will say this, You did a excellent job on this mod. :) Job well done. So this is on a PAL 2600 Junior, right? If it helps. I remember doing a simple minor mod on the actual motherboard that will improve to show the pixels a bit better Especially light colour pixels on a black BG ). It's got to do with changing a resistor on R31 that traces to Pin 6 of the TIA chip. From what I read up on eTim's website for a RGB mod in this particular console revision. When Atari manufactured the PAL Atari 2600 juniors. They made a error with the resistor value as they places a 10K resistor by mistake where it should be a 3.3K. I gone and ndone that before RGB Modding mine and tested it, it has significantly improved the pixel volumes better. Hope this minor detail helps if you want to go ahead it it. Just optional. That's so good to see another useful video mod for the 2600 around. :)
So I originally tried this a couple of weeks ago and coudn't get it to work. However I tried it again on an Atari 2600 Junior and It just works! and I must say I'm pretty impressed. So much so that I will be buying another one very shortly. One question though, Is there any scope for a version for the Atari7800?
Hey pal. I'm thinking about buying this one, but you mentioned the interference regarding the power source. You mentioned you tested on all sorts of Atari models. I have an officially licensed Brazilian "Vader" model, made by Polyvox that has an internal power supply and I'm worried that this could cause interference since the TIA is fairly close to the power supply. Have you ever tested this mod in one of these Brazilian models? Mine has a UM6526N TIA.
Link to purchase this? The link in the descrition goes to a site that seems like it would have this, but even using the site's search feature I was unable to find this piece.
Very interesting video (and mod). Could you please show how the re-assemble the case with the cable and the mod installed? Is it necessary to cut the Jr. case to pass the cables? Thanks.
The console joins both channels so you have to cut the join then seen each left and right out separate. However most games only send audio out of one channel so really it needs some additional logic or manual switch to mix channels back together for unsupported games. I've not done much more investigations other than that so far
Hi, native S-video for the NES is a no go sadly. The 2C02 video chip generates Luma and Chroma directly inside of it, so there are no pins or external places to grab that signal. It's unfortunate.
This is great, I'm hoping to retire composite video from my av setup but the 2600 and the NES are the pain points. This seems quick and easy (for someone lazy like me) for the NES I may just go with a composite to S-video adapter just to ger rid of the composite switches. I'll keep an eye out for the new revision.
I couldn't wait and decided to order, the store had the picture of a white PCB, so I'm guessing that is the new revision? Either way, I am excited to get this installed!
@@RetroSix I will do I've got various makes and models I started with one and ended up with 3 working six switches 2 jnrs 3 NTSC consoles and a one of them a broken sears telegame light six yup slightly mad
I noticed that you didn't have to chop out the RF converter. Does it still work along with the composite/S-Video? Thanks. Really cool invention and great work!
I just successfully installed this on my 6 switch. Only issue I have now is the interference from the psu just like what you showed. So I've ordered an official one and hopefully that sorts it.
I installed this mod on a 4 switch Atari yesterday. No sound. Also, the video output isn't perfect. It's hard to describe - like you are looking sideways on an old LCD. Double-checked my connections, look good. The RF signal has video and sound. Does anyone have experience with this issue?
Noise? Yes. I just never bothered releasing the product. Basically a special combination of filters. Works on all switching power supplies on all consoles to remove all video noise
Not gonna lie. Really tempted to send you my Psp go for repair. Guy at work shook it when the screen was popped up and I think he damaged/dislodged the ribbon attaching the screen to the main board. Also have an Original PSP 1000 which I stripped by accident trying to fit a new screen...just call me butter fingers.
A little help with my atari2600 just fitted this great mod just wired it up but for some reason it's black n white. It has a very clean immage and the sound is perfect. Iv set it up to audio video as I'm ok with that. Any help is appreciated .
Turn your color wheel on Atari to tune it. Also measure the col adjust pin on TIA to make sure it moves between 0 and 5V when turning the wheel to confirm it's working
Hello, I emailed your support address a question which sent an auto reply that it had moved to discord, but I do not use discord and just wanted to make sure this was seen. I have a 4 switch NTSC unit with the upside down TIA chip, and the text is upside down but there is a 1 cm rectangular cutout on the left instead of the right. I have never seen a notch like this on a chip before, and the other 2 chips have their notches on the right. How should I orient the CleanComp when looking at the back side of the board oriented normally with the cartridge slot above the chips, does the mod go right side up per the instructions at 2:24 to match the notch, or upside down to match the instructions at 1:39 to match the text? Thanks!
@@RetroSix yeah that’s what I was planning on doing if I didn’t hear back, I was just looking up pinouts now. My hunch is that since all the chips are upside down, the notch/cutout is not an indicator. Thanks.
@@RetroSix ok so I installed it today, and after powering it on I got no picture or telltale flicker that video was working. After a minute or so of testing the cart and switches, the large cap on the input power exploded. I’m not really sure what to do now, I replaced the cap already and know it was good, and I was getting a picture from the transistor mod even though it wasn’t correct. Im using the original Atari power supply, everything else should be fine but it does still have all the disconnected components required from the transistor mod. Has this happened to anyone else? I can send more photos if that helps. I do know how to solder so I doubt I did anything incorrectly, and it was working before the mod.
@@RetroSix Sorry I don’t use discord. This morning I ended up replacing the cap again and the RF components, refurbished the RF modulator, removed the cleancomp mod, and tried to connect to the TV using RF and it worked fine so I’m assuming something was faulty with the mod board itself as I’m reasonably certain it was installed correctly, but I don’t know what would cause the cap to blow. I removed as much solder as I could but tore some of the mods solder pads off when removing it due to solder down below the top of the board where I couldn’t reach, so I can’t really try it again. I’ll just have to table this for now and try to figure something else out.
Cooool i had made the av mod on a protoboard then translated it to a pcv.. but im still not satisfied.. and now that the Atari is comming back officially i need HDMI Mod sooo please can you guve us an HDMI mod?????? I mean i already have the console... All i wat is to re buy the upcomming brand new rereleases !!!!!
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? Its an elegant solution and a nice PCB..... but I honestly cannot tell any improvement over the basic single transistor composite mod?! The picture is still very soft and blurry with edge artifacts... so, other than ease of install.... how is this solution superior to the cheap and nasty single transistor mod, which incidentally is not effected by switch mode power supplies (which pretty much every one uses these days)?
Just can't get it to work, i have the jr with a retrotink pro 2, composite either works or works for 5 mins then it gets corrupted and black and white, s video doesn't work at all, tv knows there's a signal but shows nothing or tells me the resolution isn't supported, i got sent 2 cables not a combined, belled out the wires so know they are the right way round, going to re-solder everything then give up :(
@@RetroSixHi, not adjusted the wheel on the console, It worked for 5 mins or so, here's a vid of what it's doing... th-cam.com/video/Uf3P0XX6dx0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uwl3PXwpJwWLPlef
Both composite and svideo, when it looks normal the colours are right, on the vid it looks wrong for that game but that's the camera, it's as though it's ok when you first turn it on it's fine then after it warms up a bit it starts messing up.
@@RetroSix Yes now adjusted the wheel and the and the 2 pots on the board, no effect, after re-soldering the board 5 times one of the tiny pal pads has burnt off, i will wait for the 2600 plus, won't buy another board from you
No point upscaling composite to HDMI but I can do it. I plan to possibly interface with the TIA next to replace it and then generate RGB then to HDMI from that
Do you have a TRIAD power supply you can test with? its very commonly used as a quality replacement supply for many consoles, it would be nice to see if that affects it.
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I fitted my mod to the first of my Light Sixers successfully enough. The difference in picture quality was apparent, I'm pretty happy with it. Many thanks.
One tip for modders; if you reassemble the 2600 and find that you have a B&W picture, dont disassemble the unit and check your soldering and cable routing.....check that the "Color/B&W" switch is set to "Color" first :)
DAMHIK
"You may not notice" Thought I was going cross-eyed when you hit the trimmer.
Awesome video, cheers from Dallas, Tx
The better install tip is to measure which pin on the TIA chip is ground and line that up with ground on the cleancomp. On my console the notch on the chip was on the opposite side of Luke's when having it oriented to be readable. Those so many dang revisions of these boards!
Love all what you do on this channel.👍
wow....just saw this now! I was looking a long time for a quality mod. Since the mod from Tim Worthington is no more available I had to go with the UAV-mod from the Brewing Company. It works fine, but yours would have been a lot easier to install and also cheaper, since the audio is included. Too bad I was late to see this. I'm coming back in the future! Nice products in your shop!!
Nice Luke! Great work there!
Excellent idea you did, lad. I knew you did a great job.
For uncompressed raw image captures checkout RetroSix.co.uk product page for CleanComp. I've noticed the TH-cam video compression is adding artifacts to the captures that are not present on the end screen
Well mine is installed.. I'm very happy.. installed it yesterday and did video for my youtube channel. Installed on a light sixer 😊
It would be really cool to see this mod paired up with a secondary board that goes onto an Atari 7800’s Maria chip
Fantastic kit
This was exactly what I was needing. 2 ordered today, many thanks. I may stick a blob of hot glue under the board for a little bit of extra strain relief, as I can be clumsy with wiring. Cheers.
Nice work. Posting it on an Atari Mods channel on the official VCS Discord.
Whilst I have moved on to RGB Video gaming. I will say this, You did a excellent job on this mod. :) Job well done.
So this is on a PAL 2600 Junior, right? If it helps. I remember doing a simple minor mod on the actual motherboard that will improve to show the pixels a bit better Especially light colour pixels on a black BG ). It's got to do with changing a resistor on R31 that traces to Pin 6 of the TIA chip. From what I read up on eTim's website for a RGB mod in this particular console revision. When Atari manufactured the PAL Atari 2600 juniors. They made a error with the resistor value as they places a 10K resistor by mistake where it should be a 3.3K. I gone and ndone that before RGB Modding mine and tested it, it has significantly improved the pixel volumes better.
Hope this minor detail helps if you want to go ahead it it. Just optional.
That's so good to see another useful video mod for the 2600 around. :)
So I originally tried this a couple of weeks ago and coudn't get it to work. However I tried it again on an Atari 2600 Junior and It just works! and I must say I'm pretty impressed. So much so that I will be buying another one very shortly. One question though, Is there any scope for a version for the Atari7800?
Wow this is amazing and something I definitely need to get done.
Definitely. New version out in few weeks. Slightly cleaner output still
@@RetroSix will wait then and get it 👊🏻
Hey pal. I'm thinking about buying this one, but you mentioned the interference regarding the power source. You mentioned you tested on all sorts of Atari models. I have an officially licensed Brazilian "Vader" model, made by Polyvox that has an internal power supply and I'm worried that this could cause interference since the TIA is fairly close to the power supply. Have you ever tested this mod in one of these Brazilian models? Mine has a UM6526N TIA.
Great job
A suggestion for the power supply : could it be a thing, having a USB C mod, like game boy/gears and others?
Yes our Master System CleanPower works fine I just need to make a specific version so it can easily mount on the Atari console without needing epoxy
Link to purchase this? The link in the descrition goes to a site that seems like it would have this, but even using the site's search feature I was unable to find this piece.
Very interesting video (and mod). Could you please show how the re-assemble the case with the cable and the mod installed? Is it necessary to cut the Jr. case to pass the cables? Thanks.
Can we get more info on the stereo audio mod for NTSC, specifically on the light sixer? I'm not seeing anywhere the left and right pins are connected.
The console joins both channels so you have to cut the join then seen each left and right out separate. However most games only send audio out of one channel so really it needs some additional logic or manual switch to mix channels back together for unsupported games. I've not done much more investigations other than that so far
brilliant solution.
Vraiment excellent!
Very interesting. Is it possible to make an svideo chip for nes than an expensive nesrgb kit?
Hi, native S-video for the NES is a no go sadly. The 2C02 video chip generates Luma and Chroma directly inside of it, so there are no pins or external places to grab that signal. It's unfortunate.
This is great, I'm hoping to retire composite video from my av setup but the 2600 and the NES are the pain points. This seems quick and easy (for someone lazy like me) for the NES I may just go with a composite to S-video adapter just to ger rid of the composite switches. I'll keep an eye out for the new revision.
I couldn't wait and decided to order, the store had the picture of a white PCB, so I'm guessing that is the new revision? Either way, I am excited to get this installed!
Yep you should get the new version
It's nice too see a mod that doesn't go for the hack and slash I've ordered one for a 4 switch ntsc
Nice. Let me know your feedback
@@RetroSix I will do I've got various makes and models I started with one and ended up with 3 working six switches 2 jnrs 3 NTSC consoles and a one of them a broken sears telegame light six yup slightly mad
I noticed that you didn't have to chop out the RF converter. Does it still work along with the composite/S-Video? Thanks. Really cool invention and great work!
Yes it does. You can use all 3 at once
I'm eagerly awaiting my order. Very exciting! I hope that one day you could develop a similar board for Intellivision. :)@@RetroSix
Let us know how you get on 😁
Great mod, will there be more available on your site any time soon?
About 4 days
I just successfully installed this on my 6 switch. Only issue I have now is the interference from the psu just like what you showed. So I've ordered an official one and hopefully that sorts it.
I installed this mod on a 4 switch Atari yesterday. No sound. Also, the video output isn't perfect. It's hard to describe - like you are looking sideways on an old LCD. Double-checked my connections, look good. The RF signal has video and sound. Does anyone have experience with this issue?
Never seen that before. Jump on discord.gg/RetroSix and share image/video
There may be an issue with the cleancomp and sound, you may want to check out the atari 2600jr video i realeased, captain commodore........
Were you already able the solve the problem with switching power supplies?
Noise? Yes. I just never bothered releasing the product. Basically a special combination of filters. Works on all switching power supplies on all consoles to remove all video noise
Not gonna lie. Really tempted to send you my Psp go for repair. Guy at work shook it when the screen was popped up and I think he damaged/dislodged the ribbon attaching the screen to the main board. Also have an Original PSP 1000 which I stripped by accident trying to fit a new screen...just call me butter fingers.
You know where we are when your ready 👍
@@RetroSix Yeah may have to take you up on that. Pretty reasonable prices it must be said 👍
Just ordered this from ebay. My player 1 difficulty switch is a little sticky, has dust just gotten in there and needs a good clean?
Lift the metal switch off the physical switch then clean inside it with IPA
A little help with my atari2600 just fitted this great mod just wired it up but for some reason it's black n white. It has a very clean immage and the sound is perfect. Iv set it up to audio video as I'm ok with that. Any help is appreciated .
Turn your color wheel on Atari to tune it. Also measure the col adjust pin on TIA to make sure it moves between 0 and 5V when turning the wheel to confirm it's working
Hello, I emailed your support address a question which sent an auto reply that it had moved to discord, but I do not use discord and just wanted to make sure this was seen.
I have a 4 switch NTSC unit with the upside down TIA chip, and the text is upside down but there is a 1 cm rectangular cutout on the left instead of the right. I have never seen a notch like this on a chip before, and the other 2 chips have their notches on the right. How should I orient the CleanComp when looking at the back side of the board oriented normally with the cartridge slot above the chips, does the mod go right side up per the instructions at 2:24 to match the notch, or upside down to match the instructions at 1:39 to match the text?
Thanks!
Check which corner is ground on the TIA using a multimeter then solder the ground pad of CleanComp in that orientation
@@RetroSix yeah that’s what I was planning on doing if I didn’t hear back, I was just looking up pinouts now. My hunch is that since all the chips are upside down, the notch/cutout is not an indicator. Thanks.
@@RetroSix ok so I installed it today, and after powering it on I got no picture or telltale flicker that video was working. After a minute or so of testing the cart and switches, the large cap on the input power exploded. I’m not really sure what to do now, I replaced the cap already and know it was good, and I was getting a picture from the transistor mod even though it wasn’t correct. Im using the original Atari power supply, everything else should be fine but it does still have all the disconnected components required from the transistor mod. Has this happened to anyone else? I can send more photos if that helps. I do know how to solder so I doubt I did anything incorrectly, and it was working before the mod.
No that's never happened. Jump on discord.gg/RetroSix and upload install photos so I can see. Perhaps something is wired wrong
@@RetroSix Sorry I don’t use discord. This morning I ended up replacing the cap again and the RF components, refurbished the RF modulator, removed the cleancomp mod, and tried to connect to the TV using RF and it worked fine so I’m assuming something was faulty with the mod board itself as I’m reasonably certain it was installed correctly, but I don’t know what would cause the cap to blow. I removed as much solder as I could but tore some of the mods solder pads off when removing it due to solder down below the top of the board where I couldn’t reach, so I can’t really try it again. I’ll just have to table this for now and try to figure something else out.
I just ordered this drop in AV mod from you. Do you think the stereo mod will work on my NTFC heavy sixer?
NTSC... not NTFC...
Yes it does
Would this work on a clone with built in games? It uses UM6526P1 as the TIA.
Never tried. If its got same outputs as TIA possibly
Cooool i had made the av mod on a protoboard then translated it to a pcv.. but im still not satisfied.. and now that the Atari is comming back officially i need HDMI Mod sooo please can you guve us an HDMI mod?????? I mean i already have the console... All i wat is to re buy the upcomming brand new rereleases !!!!!
? Its an elegant solution and a nice PCB..... but I honestly cannot tell any improvement over the basic single transistor composite mod?! The picture is still very soft and blurry with edge artifacts... so, other than ease of install.... how is this solution superior to the cheap and nasty single transistor mod, which incidentally is not effected by switch mode power supplies (which pretty much every one uses these days)?
Ok, how do I find or Finagle this for my 7800?
I'll make a dedicated 7800 one. You can retro fit this in 7800 for now vm.tiktok.com/ZGe5ujA5E/
I have a PAL Heavy Sixer, will this mod work on that ok?
Yep
Just can't get it to work, i have the jr with a retrotink pro 2, composite either works or works for 5 mins then it gets corrupted and black and white, s video doesn't work at all, tv knows there's a signal but shows nothing or tells me the resolution isn't supported, i got sent 2 cables not a combined, belled out the wires so know they are the right way round, going to re-solder everything then give up :(
Have you tried your color tune wheel on console? Sounds like that's out
@@RetroSixHi, not adjusted the wheel on the console, It worked for 5 mins or so, here's a vid of what it's doing... th-cam.com/video/Uf3P0XX6dx0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uwl3PXwpJwWLPlef
Both composite and svideo, when it looks normal the colours are right, on the vid it looks wrong for that game but that's the camera, it's as though it's ok when you first turn it on it's fine then after it warms up a bit it starts messing up.
@@RetroSix Yes now adjusted the wheel and the and the 2 pots on the board, no effect, after re-soldering the board 5 times one of the tiny pal pads has burnt off, i will wait for the 2600 plus, won't buy another board from you
@@steveford1070 happy to send you a free replacement
Is there any version of this that allows HDMI output?
No point upscaling composite to HDMI but I can do it. I plan to possibly interface with the TIA next to replace it and then generate RGB then to HDMI from that
@@RetroSix just for ease of connection I would definitely be interested in that.
can i use this mod kit without the s mod
Yes
will this mod kit work on the atari 7800
It does with some work. But you lose 1 bit of Luma. I'll make one specific to the 7800 soon
Is it recommended to remove rf circuitry?
It makes no difference so I would keep it. It still functions
Just finished the install and am very happy with the results.
取付後が汚くならないのが良い
Atari Logo on your own product? I assume you have a license for it?
Karen
Do you have a TRIAD power supply you can test with? its very commonly used as a quality replacement supply for many consoles, it would be nice to see if that affects it.
I don't have one no. But they look like transformer based on the size
Mines in the post can't wait..
What. Is. This.
Composite video output mod for Atari 2600