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Oct 2024 Edit: Yes, iCloud/photos app on iPhone can save photos and videos at a lower resolution OR full resolution. “Optimize iPhone storage” is apples way of helping save space on your iphone. However, like I mentioned before, it a syncing service not a true cloud storage. Nevertheless, I personally use iCloud and Google photos to save my pictures. You always want to have at least two copies. Having a third copy stored in some type of NAS would be the best but I am too lazy XD and I feel safe with my two digital copies. Old Response Below: Correction: Agree: This video is summed up between 9:14-9:55. Most people will be delete photos from their physical devices to free up space. If I delete all my pictures on my iPhone… iCloud will delete ALL my pictures from the iCloud. If I delete all my pictures on my iPhone… Google/Microsoft will have a copy in the cloud!!! Disagree: 11:20-12:02 -Why did you make it sound like they are all the same? It is very misleading when you compare deleting directly from iPhone to deleting directly from the cloud storage. With respect to all 3 of these cloud storages…If you delete pictures directly from your backup (cloud storage) it’s obvious it will delete from all your devices cloud apps. However, if I delete a picture on my Google/Microsoft cloud it will still be available on my iPhone (assuming it’s saved in local apple photos app). (The more I look into this… the more I am realizing that iCloud is not a “true” cloud storage and it just syncs.)
Agreed, I don't think he's explaining this correctly. Why would I want to pay for a cloud that it's not actually backing up my files but just syncing?. Makes way more sense to have a cloud that helps you free up space on your devices such as google or Microsoft
@@sofia-vach Agreed, I think something was missing from the explanation. Goggle's photo app on the iphone gives you the extra option to delete the photo from the device (iphone) so that you are freeing up phone storage, but the photo remains in Google Cloud. This is not synch -like behavior and is exactly the kind of control Apple needs to provide so that we can truly manage our storage space. Apple's optimize setting is confusing and not transparent to the user. I hate to sound cynical, but Apple seems more intent in making it hard to manage device storage so we have to buy more expensive phones.
Correction: Apple automatically deletes original photos from the device leaving a thumbnail only and uploading the original file to iCloud. Other backup service doesn’t do this.
I have my google photos and phone to automatically load to cloud and delete from device. With having a cloud storage I don’t need or want anything to send a copy to every device I have be it a sample or the real picture that’s still taking space on every device you got if have iCloud for the same picture.
Great question @ I would argue that OneDrive is an actual backup. It can sync photos to their cloud storage, but if you delete it from OneDrive, it deletes from every other device that is signed in with that same Microsoft Account. You would want to make sure that your photos are sync to another location and possibly backed up to an external drive or something else to be a little more secure. Thanks so much for watching! If this video was helpful and you learned something new, please SUBSCRIBE to my channel if you haven’t already! If you want to support my content click THANKS below or better yet, SHARE it with a friend on social media and say how it helped you! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated!
I am so confused. So you do indeed show us that deleting a photo from your iphone, deletes it from icloud storage. But that's not what I want, what's even the point of that? I want to free up space on my devices, therefore you can double it as a backup to icloud. Is there a way where if I delete it from my device, it STAYS in icloud. If I want to save space on my icloud, I'll just delete it from there. But then again, does' that have the exact same reversed effect? Will it delete it from my device?
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14:05 OneDrive can also share, per file and per folder, view (read-only) and view+edit, and you can mix & match so view+edit with some people, view only with others .
I already use onedrive, and if i want to use icloud at the same time, does onedrive only get the low resolution photos uploaded because icloud optimizes space?
No @littlem5771, OneDrive and iCloud can work independently of one another. iCloud Optimization feature is specifically designed for Apple devices so that it takes up less space locally on the device so you can have access to all of your content. The moment you view a photo/video, it will download the high resolution file. Thank you so much for taking your time to watch this video. It is greatly appreciated! If this video has been helped you, I would be honored if you would consider sharing it with your social media network and expressing your gratitude for its assistance. Kindly subscribe if you have not already done so. Your continued support is greatly appreciated.
What if I upload fotos from iPhone to onedrive, delete the photos on the iPhone, do new photos and start the upload again. Are the old photos which I deleted still in onedrive, or are they deleted? Thanks for help me.
Great question @Philipp Osanna! If you have synced a photo/video from your iPhone within the Apple Photos app to the Microsoft OneDrive App, it makes a copy to OneDrive. That means if you delete in Apple Photos App, it will still be in OneDrive. If you have the option turned on within OneDrive to automatically upload new photos, then yes, every new picture/video you take will auto upload. I hope that helps! THANK YOU so much for watching! It is appreciated more than you know! If this video was useful, I’d love for you to SHARE it with on social media and say how it helped you! SUBSCRIBE if you haven’t already, and if you have, THANK YOU for your continued support!
Thanks for the great video. I think what i was looking for is the feature is called "Free up space" from google photos. Where they remove the storage space of the photos/videos from your phone physical storage (so i can take more photos/videos) and yet still viewable from the phone's google photos app and download them when I need to edit or send it. Is there a feature like this on iCloud photos that clean up iPhone's physical storage space but still viewable and editable when needed?
Thank you for this! I’ve always had concerns of deleting photos on my device, thinking that it’ll be available on the cloud. Apple needs to have an option where deleting on your device DOES NOT delete it on the cloud.
ios does it for you actually, if it notices your phones storage is getting low it offload videos and photos on your phone and need internet to view full quality or play video
Hello Joel, Thank you very much for your videos I have honestly never found anything more useful in-depth content about apple photos than your videos. I Have really gone through all your apple photos content but I'm still having a question and I hope you can help me with it. I'm currently using I cloud photos and I'm trying to have 2 iCloud photo libraries, 1 is the main library which will have all my few picked photos (as a system library to sync with my iPhone) And the other will be for the archive photos for random photos I take on my iPhone. The question is: Is there a way I can move/export photos from my iPhone as a monthly routine to the second Library so I can save my ICloud storage and keep my main photo library clean? The final goal is to have a picked albums photo library as my main library for ICloud that is synced with my devices, and a second photo library that is not synced but has all the random photos that I don't need from the first I cloud library. Very very sorry for my long comment but I hope you can answer me. Thanks a lot and keep doing your great work!
Brilliant! Your extensive knowledge across different cloud storages shows. I'm pleased you stressed being signed in with the same account. That was my issue. The fleeting graphics that appeared on-screen helped too.
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Excellent, thank you. I was concerned that closing out my iCloud services might somehow affect my OneDrive, but now knowing that it won't is a big relief!
Hi @Jeannette! I do not have any videos related to that. What type of phone do you have? What exactly are you trying to do? Are you trying to take long high quality videos and make the file size smaller so it's easier to share them? Thanks so much for watching! If this video was helpful and you learned something new, please SUBSCRIBE to my channel! If you want to support my content click THANKS below or better yet, SHARE it with a friend on social media and say how it helped you! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated!
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Hi Joel. QUESTION: Good explanations. Would you mind sharing which tools you use to create your screen recordings of devices with callouts and gesture and cursor animations? I’m working on short videos for seniors who use iPhones and iPads mostly with Windows laptops. Thanks
Hi @Michael Akins! I use all Mac tools. I screen record using the built in QuickTime Player. I edit with Final Cut Pro X, and many of the animations and callouts are created in Apple Motion and I use many of the plugins from a company called @motionvfx. They have amazing plugins and templates for Final Cut Pro and other products. I hope that helps! Thanks so much for watching! If this video was helpful and you learned something new, please SUBSCRIBE to my channel if you haven’t already! If you want to support my content click THANKS below or better yet, SHARE it with a friend on social media and say how it helped you! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated!
Hi joe great vids been a long time Mac user but learn from all your vids . Question I have that you can hopefully help me with I have a MacBook Pro 2021 with the M1 chip, should I use file vault, I have read so many different things, some saying the m1 chips does it automatically. I use time machine and I encrypted that but it’s the internal ssd that I can’t find a solid answer for. Many thanks
Great question @Steve h! I guess it depends on how secure you want to be. The T2 security chip that was in the intel Macs that automatically encrypted the Mac is now included within the M1 chips, so yes your Mac would already be encrypted, but you could still turn on FileVault to add yet another layer of protection. Apple Platform Security (this may be most relevant to your M1 Mac) support.apple.com/guide/security/welcome/web Below is a support article related to the T2 Security Chip, but again its for previous Macs. Encrypt Mac data with FileVault support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/encrypt-mac-data-with-filevault-mh11785/mac Mac models with the Apple T2 Security Chip support.apple.com/en-us/HT208862 I hope that helps! Thanks so much for watching! If you would like to support me and my content, please SUBSCRIBE and SUPER THANKS! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated! If you know someone who may benefit from this video, feel free to share it along!
@@Learnwithjoel thank you for the reply. Sorry I just subbed, I did think I was already subbed as all your vids come in to my feed, anyhow done now. You have a real easy way to follow along with you vids. Thank you once again Steve
So just to confirm, if i have my phone gallery pics, on my one drive and google pics, i can delete my phone storage pictures and they wont delete off one drive or google pics, right?
Hi @claudiagarcia65! It's been a while since I used photos in Microsoft OneDrive. I just tested this the other day with Google Photos. If I take a Photo and it goes into iCloud Photos, it will sync to Google Photos. If I delete that photo in Google Photos, it will delete there as well as iCloud Photos locally. If I delete it only from iCloud Photos, it does not delete it from Google Photos. I'm not sure if Microsoft has changed anything on their end. I would verify that all photos are syncing to Microsoft and then try to delete one from iCloud. I do know that with all of these cloud storages, they offer a recently deleted. So even if you accident delete a photo, you can recover it! I hope that helps! THANK YOU so much for watching! It is appreciated more than you know! If this video was useful, I’d love for you to SHARE it with on social media and say how it helped you! Please SUBSCRIBE if you haven’t already, and if you have, THANK YOU for your continued support!
I propose an idea for another interesting video: compare how google-icloud-onedrive export photos (for safekeeping on a harddisk). I found that exporting photos out of icloud is cumbersome and does not preserve the creation date. All copies of photos you save on your mac are dated the day you export them!
I agree. It scrambles all the pictures up according to the date you exported. I only exported one month from iCloud to hard drive and it took a LONG time.
Agreed, I believe Google strips the metadata from the photos uploaded and stores it separately, so if you want to store on a NAS then an app to stitch the data back to the photo is required… more work!
Thanks for this informative video. I have one unanswered question: Is there a way to back up photos to ONLY OneDrive, and not iCloud, but still see the compressed photos in my iPhone photos library? Here is my situation: - I am a Microsoft user with 1TB of storage included in a Microsoft Family Plan (~$100/yr) which 3 of us split the cost of, so it's super cheap annually. I have ~250GB of photos from my SLR saved here in addition to phone photos so it's worth it for me. - I am also an iPhone user; I back up phone photos (gazillions of them) to iCloud and I pay monthly for iCloud storage too. Bummer. - I like that since my photos automatically back up to iCloud, my iPhone saves a compressed version of the photos on my phone so I can still see them all in my photos app library without eating up as much physical storage space on my phone. My understanding is that the OneDrive app does not do the same thing - either you are downloading to view in full res, or if you're offline you can't see anything. So, is there a way to replace the iCloud part of this equation with OneDrive and not pay for 2 cloud solutions? Is there an "automatic" way to "switch" to OneDrive to back up iPhone photos that won't result in instantly eating up all the physical space on the iPhone? (I fear that if I turn off sync to iCloud, my phone will try to save all the full-resolution photos to my device and I'll run out of space lickety-split. Is that a true assumption?) I do find all this tricky to solve. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help!
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Thanks for the explanation. I've subscribed to your channel. My problem is that I use a PC not Apple laptop and Iphone and ipad. I have photos stored in icloud, My drive and google pictures. Is it possible to combine them into just one?
I am totally synced w all three devices i-pad 9, MacBook Air and iPhone 13. all are up to date, and all settings the same. BUT when I delete old mails or messages on MacBook, they do not delete on other two devices. I just manually deleted 400 old emails on MacBook (I'm behind!) and will have to manually delete off iPad and iPhone. help!
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I use OneDrive as a backup of photos but i primarily use iCloud now for everything. BUT i use Microsoft Office and pay for it so i get 1TB storage with it
I hear ya @driver288, Microsoft can be pretty decent and the price isn't bad considering it comes with that storage and access to all their apps. I will say that Amazon Photos is another great alternative. Included with an Amazon Prime subscription, they offer unlimited photo storage at full quality. Very nice option! For video they give you 5GB and then it can add up pretty quickly, but check out Amazon photos if you have a prime account! THANK YOU so much for watching! It is appreciated more than you know! If this video was useful, I’d love for you to SHARE it with on social media and say how it helped you! Please SUBSCRIBE if you haven’t already, and if you have, THANK YOU for your continued support!
all 3 of my family members have phones....I would love to purchase icloud+ 2TB so we can all share storage for photos, but it is so horrible that icloud photos is still not a backup and only a sync service...it is google photos for all of us until apple makes their photo service a proper backup service.
There's nothing wrong with choosing to use Google Photos instead of iCloud and it's syncing services @LulaPlays! As long as you understand how it all works together, that's the most important thing! Thank you so much for taking your time to watch this video. It is greatly appreciated! If this video has been beneficial, I would be honored if you would consider sharing it with your social media network and expressing your gratitude for its assistance. Kindly subscribe if you have not already done so. Your continued support is greatly appreciated.
Correction - the cloud doesn't delete photos off your device, only off the cloud app installed on the device itself. There do not seem to be any options in settings allowing you to sync deletions off your device and the cloud no matter where they are deleted (even though this would be against the point of having a backup), although most deletions have a 30 day restore option unless deleted from trash.
Hello, I also noticed this, for example, that if I delete a photo in Google Photos in the browser, it only deletes them from the program on my phone, but the photos themselves remain. but then in the settings I saw an additional button ‘’unsynced devices’’ And by clicking there you can physically delete photos from the iPhone. Sorry for my English, I'm working with Google translator.
I have a 256 GB iPhone and maxed out on photos. If I purchase a 2TB iCloud I still can only sync 256GB. What is a good backup solution so I can free up my iPhone storage yet still have my photos saved and organized in the cloud? Google photos?
You cleared up so many questions I had about the relationships with iPhone photos and iCloud web photos; Google App photos on my iPhone and Google web photos; and Microsoft OneDrive photos. Awesome video--thanks so much!
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Dear Joel, these are very interesting topics. I have an Icload account, but sometimes I observe an unsynchronization between Macbook, iPad and Windows PC, all using the same account. Please tell me how I can obtain full synchronization between my devices. Thank you!
Hi @Emanuel Vamanu! What content is not syncing among your devices? Photos, contacts, calendars? Thanks so much for watching! If this video was helpful and you learned something new, please SUBSCRIBE to my channel if you haven’t already! If you want to support my content click THANKS below or better yet, SHARE it with a friend on social media and say how it helped you! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated!
Hi @Emanuel Vamanu! My next question would be what type of files are not syncing. There are some file formats that do not sync and some other possible limitations. I actually have two other videos dedicated to iCloud Drive for the Mac and iOS devices that may help. I'll link below for reference: How to use iCLOUD DRIVE on your Mac, iPhone and iPad - IN DEPTH understanding of syncing your files! th-cam.com/video/zHZLbR2tq1g/w-d-xo.html UNDERSTANDING Apple's FILES App and HOW TO ORGANIZE DOCUMENTS in iCLOUD DRIVE on an iPhone and iPad! th-cam.com/video/yYvDZq8dD5M/w-d-xo.html Also is there a particular device that the files don't show up on? Do the files show up on iCloud.com?
Hello, I think that Google photos are not exactly the same as Apple photos, although they are somewhat similar, but the logic of work is different. If I understand correctly, Google Photos does not physically download photos to the phone's memory when we view them. And there is even a function to delete all photos from the phone that have already been uploaded to the cloud. It turns out that the Google Photos program itself helps to interact with what is in the cloud. And what about storing high-quality photos that don’t take up space in cloud storage? Let me share my scenario and usage. I uploaded my entire media library to Google in photo quality and sorted it by album. So that at any time I can see them on my iPhone and I keep a copy of the original source on my backup hard drive. Naturally, I use Apple Photos themselves in order not to lose photos that I have not yet managed to sort to load into a clean album and have not made a backup copy. What do you think about this? Thanks for the video tutorials, I like to understand Apple topics together.
Great insight @Jugin27! So the native Apple Photos App on an iPhone and the Google Photos App on the iPhone do work hand in hand. Let's look at the following concepts: Concept 1: Let's say you have a Google account with no photos stored in google. It's completely brand new. When you install that app on the iPhone, it will show you every single photo from the native Apple iCloud Photo app. If you delete a photo from Google Photos, it will delete it also from Apple iCloud Photos. If you have syncing turned on with Google photos app to do backup and sync, it will delete from google as well. This is the same exact way Apple iCloud Photos works. If you take google photos out of the equation and you just have Apple iCloud Photos, when you delete a photo for the Apple Photos app, it will be deleted on every other device signed in with that account, including "the iCloud". Concept 2: As far as storage related to optimizing high resolution files and lower quality files, I think they work pretty similar. Apple has the ability to optimize Apple iCloud Photos so that you can see all photos at any given time, but it will offload them if not viewed for 30 days to free up storage. Google has the ability to "backup" photos to the Google Cloud to do the same thing, but the photo still takes up storage on the iPhone even if it is a lower quality file that is optimized. It's still storage used. You can verify that when you look at the iPhone storage settings. Concept 3: This is where it often gets confusing... When you take a photo on your iPhone, it shows up in both the native Apple Photos app and also Google Photos. If you delete from Google Photos, it deletes it from everywhere in Google Photos and it also deletes it in iCloud Photos. It's gone everywhere. If you delete a photo from iCloud Apple Photos, it does not delete it from Google Photos. So sure you free up a little space by not having in the Apple iCloud Photo Library, but that photo is still in Google Photos, which still takes up space either locally or in Google Cloud storage. So long story short, is my point is that they both act the same way in the since of syncing. If you exclusively use Google Photos, if you take a picture it syncs everywhere where your google account is used. If you delete that same photo, it's deleted everywhere the google account is used. The same thing happens with Apple iCloud Photos. I hope that makes sense! Thank you for your continued support! I appreciate you more than you know! If this video was useful, I’d love for you to SHARE it with on social media and say how it helped you!
Hello, thank you for such a complete, detailed answer. It's nice to see how people care about their work. I like modern technologies; they allow people from different parts of the world to interact together. This is cool. @@Learnwithjoel
I enjoy Google software on my amazing Apple hardware. I let Google sync with my Apple photos and use Google photos to edit and share all my photos. I find Google sync to be many times faster and more reliable. I just hide my Apple apps in case I need them. Also, Google search of my photos is leagues ahead of Apple in my opinion. Google is better with file types and sharing outside of the Apple ecosystem as well. The cost of Google photo storage for the extra redundancy is well worth it to me.
I agree that Apple and Google are very good in different ways @Flightgamer! I wish Google had an actual photo editing software locally on the Mac however and I do believe that their file sharing is still better than Apple. I think it's important for any user to just understand the ecosystem, benefits and limitations of each. Thanks for sharing and Thanks so much for watching! If you haven’t subscribed already and would like to support me and my content, please SUBSCRIBE and click THANKS below on the video! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated! If you know someone who may benefit from this video, please share it along!
Thank you Joe for explaining this. For over 3 years I struggling with up to 13x multiple duplicating photos and files on my ios and iPad. Apple Tech support tell me it’s because i have my photo and file syncing ‘on’ other applications. I have completed every requested recommendation, problem still exists. I hope someday to get an answer and a fix.
You're very welcome @BluesA. So I can see that if you're having multiples of duplicating content, it could certainly be related to using multiple apps for syncing photos within multiple cloud solutions. I would highly recommend to stick to one only for photo syncing. I know specifically for Google Drive, they have options to sync photos to not only Google Photos but also Google Drive and I think it even warns about it creating duplicates if you do that. I would focus with one cloud solution as a starting point. If you have a Mac there are some great tools for finding and helping with duplicate photos within Apple Photos. I will link a video for reference incase you have a Mac. HOW TO DELETE DUPLICATE PHOTOS in Apple Photos - IN DEPTH review of software to FIX your Duplicates! th-cam.com/video/VpQ5kDc3BvQ/w-d-xo.html I hope that helps! Thanks so much for watching! If you would like to support me and the content I’m creating, please feel free to SUBSCRIBE and use SUPER THANKS on the video if you haven’t already! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated! If you know someone who may benefit from this video, feel free to share it along!
Hi! Great video! I ran into a problem. I'm using iCloud Photos but also sync/backup to Google Photos. When I deleted a photo on Google Photos (because a ran out of space on Google) my iCloud also changed. Unfortunately I lost important photos this way.
I'm not sure about that one @fedepetit! When you export from Google Photos, what information isn't in the metadata? Also where is the photo coming from originally? Did you take a photo with your iPhone and then sync to Google Photos and then export it from there? Also what device are you on when you're trying to see the exported photo? Thanks so much for watching! If this video was helpful and you learned something new, please SUBSCRIBE to my channel if you haven’t already! If you want to support my content click THANKS below or better yet, SHARE it with a friend on social media and say how it helped you! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated!
I found your video to be very informative. I am a photographer who still likes to use a 35mm camera along with my Android phone ,Windows computers and my Ipad when traveling the world. Thank you Loren
Really solid video, definitely helped me understand that the Apple photos isn’t just a photos app, when you add iCloud photos into the mix it becomes a cloud service bucket. I think one of the biggest misconceptions with individuals that are part of the Apple ecosystem using Google Photos or OneDrive over iCloud photos is that those services act as a backup for their photos that are both on their “photos app” and in either Google’s or Microsoft’s cloud. This is something that I’ve fallen into and is one of the reasons I use Google Photos. I still have everything on my device, but I also have it backed up and if I delete it from my device, it won’t be deleted from the cloud I’m using. For now, this is a feasible approach for me as a family plan user but in the future that may change. Your video definitely helped me decide and sort some of my own usage details out. Thanks!
Happy to hear this demoed a little clarification for you @Braxton Huff! I agree totally with your reflection and comment! Thanks so much for watching! If this video was helpful and you learned something new, please SUBSCRIBE to my channel! If you want to support my content click THANKS below or better yet, SHARE it with a friend on social media and say how it helped you! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated!
@@Learnwithjoel no prob, definitely sharing this with others who are confused or don’t understand. Appreciate the video and helping me learn. Thank you for the great video!
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Thank you. Such a clear and useful video. I also watched your great video on Time Machine backup. If one's logic board was replaced, which mine was, would I use only Time Machine to re-setup my rebuilt Mac or would I also need to avail of my cloud drives.
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Really good explanations! I use an iPhone, iPad and HP laptop. I have iCloud storage, Google storage and (barely used) One Drive. So this explanation truly helped. Thank you!! I’m still trying figure out which photo file my Google Home display photos come from so I can manipulate it.
This video should have addressed the issue of backups. A cloud storage is not only storage, it is a very safe backup solution. If you do not have a cloud service, you need to get into making multiple copies of things and always have a copy offsite in case of disaster. Clound storage becomes very convenient when you consider it saves a whole lot of pain associated with backups
Hi @MrMartin246! I most likely didn't reference backups as this video was not intended for that topic. I agree that having a cloud solution is important in addition to having your content backed up locally, but some of these cloud solutions I wouldn't consider a 100% backup solution. I do have several other videos related to backing up devices and data that I will link below for reference: iCLOUD BACKUPS - WHAT you NEED TO KNOW when it comes to backing up PHOTOS, iPHONES and your devices! th-cam.com/video/7ep9pREplD8/w-d-xo.html How to BACKUP your iPHONE or iPAD using iTunes, Finder and iCloud! - STEP BY STEP GUIDE th-cam.com/video/Uz7zVGEkPmE/w-d-xo.html BACKUP YOUR MAC! - IN-DEPTH look at Apple Time Machine and many ways to save and recover your files! th-cam.com/video/LXl4QkrsxHQ/w-d-xo.html How to BACKUP iCLOUD PHOTOS! Options for your Mac, iPhone and iPad! Cloud or No Cloud! th-cam.com/video/pWZZlYU62ts/w-d-xo.html THANK YOU so much for watching! It is appreciated more than you know! If this video was useful, I’d love for you to SHARE it with on social media and say how it helped you! Please SUBSCRIBE if you haven’t already, and if you have, THANK YOU for your continued support!
@@Learnwithjoel What I meant is to at least mention that in the Cloud vs Local debate, backup is part of the story and cloud storage provide some kink of protection. I understand you have other videos more specifically about backups but the two subjects are definitely related. Cheers.
So in other words if I don’t want to use a cloud service then I have to get a portable hard disk to save t Question I have if I have a 512 storage of photos and no more cause my Mac has only 512 stoage on my Mac and I have 1terbyte storage on a cloud service that means I can only store 512 of photos even though I have 1 terabyte of storage on the cloud I would have preferred if the 2 devices would not sync and then just go to my cloud and download only what I need use it and then delete it of my computer and still have it available on my cloud
Very nice explanation. I have 50Gb icloud space, which is now almost full. What I do, is sync my photo roll on my iphone with my Onedrive (1Tb), and delete the photos from icloud.
I want to try this bc i also have Office family plan - but am nervous to make the switch.. how do you delete the photos from icloud? by manually deleting them from the iphone photos library after confirming they have successfully synced to onedrive?
@@megvp2969 Manually deleting is the way I do it, 1) because I don't know another way, and 2) just to make sure I don't delete photos that are not in onedrive. When I have made sure, I select multiple items on my iphone (easier on ipad with a bigger screen). Because you can swipe over a row of photos, the deletion process does not take much. Remember that they stay in icloud's dustbin for 30 days.
Hi Joel, I’m thinking of getting iCloud because, well I only use Apple products. 🤗 but I do take photos with my Nikon d3500 and put the RAW files on my extern HDD, can I upload those raw photos to the iCloud as well?
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Great question @Reza Jafari! iPhones and iPads don't have the ability to add local storage after your purchase. You can't expand it. So essentially you have two options to free up space physically on your device. 1. You delete content. So whether it's text messages, photos, videos, or whatever, this will always free up space on your device. Naturally though, this does not solve the issue as then you will lose them if they're not in any cloud service or copied to another device. 2. When you use a cloud service like iCloud or Google, you have the ability to optimize the storage of your device such as your iPhone. This comes with a cost as you then need to pay for storage in that cloud system so the photos can be copied there. The best thing to do if you use iCloud is to turn on the option in the Photo Settings for "Optimize iPhone Storage". This is located directly on your iPhone settings in: iCloud > Photos > Optimize iPhone Storage I have a whole video on this concept that I will link below. It's a little older video, but still very relevant. FREE UP SPACE on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac - The BEST WAY to OPTIMIZE iPhone & iPad Storage th-cam.com/video/bGmN-C-6W7A/w-d-xo.html I hope that helps! Thanks so much for watching! If this video was helpful and you learned something new, please SUBSCRIBE to my channel if you haven’t already! If you want to support my content click THANKS below or better yet, SHARE it with a friend on social media and say how it helped you! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated!
I don't think your suggestion that they are all the same is quite right - if you have both iCloud and Google Photos on your iPhone and you take a photo, then that photo will be uploaded to both types of cloud and synchronised as you say. The KEY DIFFERENCE is that if you then delete that photo from the 'photos' app on your iPhone IT WILL STAY IN GOOGLE PHOTOS but will be deleted from all your linked iCloud devices and lost (if you then also delete it in the 'google photos' app then it will be deleted from all of your google storage and lost too). To this end, google photos acts more like a backup system where you can delete photos from your phone to make space and know they are safely stored in google photos, whereas iCloud works as a single photo reel across all of your devices (i.e., delete it on your mac, and it will be deleted on your phone too).
I can't argue that @jlockwood131, if a user is paying and using both iCloud and Google. I was more suggesting that independently they are more similar. If a user is using iCloud Photos, when they take a photo it syncs to all other devices using iCloud Photos with the same account. If that same photo gets deleted, it gets deleted from all the same devices. Same is true if you're just using Google Photos. If you take a photo and it syncs to Google Photos, when you delete that photo within Google Photos, it will be removed from all other locations within Google Photos that is using the same account. I would say that the majority of users are not paying for iCloud Storage and Google Storage, and if they are, it could be on accident, or the user really knows what's going on with having two cloud locations for redundancy. Now on the flip side...If you're in Google Photos on your iPhone or iPad and delete a photo, it gives you a message saying: "Allow "Google Photos" to delete this photo? This photo will be deleted from iCloud Photos on all your devices. It will be in Recently Deleted for 30 days." So from that stand point, that can too be deceiving. None the less, I always recommend with one Cloud solution as your syncing and then backup locally to a physical drive and never rely 100% on any cloud. THANK YOU so much for watching! It is appreciated more than you know! If this video was useful, I’d love for you to SHARE it with on social media and say how it helped you! Please SUBSCRIBE if you haven’t already, and if you have, THANK YOU for your continued support!
Just thought I'd mention this. Apple also has a family share option for photos, videos and documents on its iCloud subscription. Meaning an account holder of a paid iCloud subscription can add other family members with different Apple id's or accounts to share that one paid subscription for their combined storage, and each family member would still retain the privacy to view, download or delearlt their own individual content.
@11:23 google and microsoft do not work the same way....the whole point of google photos is that you can delete photos from your iPhone and the items still stay backed up in google photos....if you delete the photo from icloud or from your phone, it is deleted on the phone AND icloud and you lose the photo. you don't lose photos if your photos are backed up with google photos.
Hi @LulaPlays! I appreciate your response and thoughts on the comparison. The reason I say that Google Photos works the same way as iCloud Photos is because of the following. If you have multiple devices using Google Photos, it doesn't even have to be an apple product. If you were to delete a photo from Google Photos via a web browser, it would delete it from an android phone using Google Photos. If you were to delete a photo from Google Photos on an Android phone or even iPhone, it would delete that photo from Google Photos on a Mac, PC, or web browser. It's still a syncing service for convenience, no different that iCloud Photos. Now as far as using Google Photos on an iPhone and how it correlates to iCloud Photos, it is true that Google Photos will copy and save your photos to Google Photos from the iPhone where they can be deleted, but what does this achieve? This only means that you now have to pay for storage on Google instead of iCloud for your pictures. Neither iCloud Photos or Google Photos is truly a "Backup" of photos as if you delete the photos from that location, it deletes if from all other locations where you're signed in with the same account. Thank you so much for taking your time to watch this video. It is greatly appreciated! If this video has been beneficial, I would be honored if you would consider sharing it with your social media network and expressing your gratitude for its assistance. Kindly subscribe if you have not already done so. Your continued support is greatly appreciated.
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Icloud is a definite no for me because i found out once you transfer photos and videos it does not transfer with date time years, you have to do that manually.
Very true @Richard Clarke! I probably could have expended on this, but I didn’t. Even though Apple does offer Shared Albums, which I have a video on this topic that I’ll link below, the difference is that Google has the ability to have albums automatically share with other users the moment you take a photo and it uploads to the cloud and you can choose to share your whole entire library with someone. That would be a nice feature for Apple to add. iCloud Photo SHARED ALBUMS - GET STARTED with sharing photos with ANYONE on ANY DEVICE! th-cam.com/video/vU0MRfm2utI/w-d-xo.html I hope that helps! Thanks so much for watching! If you would like to support me and the content I’m creating, please feel free to SUBSCRIBE and use SUPER THANKS on the video if you haven’t already! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated! If you know someone who may benefit from this video, feel free to share it along!
@@Learnwithjoel Exactly, with Google Photos you can share automatically photos of an specific person, pets or place with others. For example, I can setup share automatically all the photos where Google Photos detects my pet with my mom haha this without pick and share "manually" every photo of my pet. It's a great feature.
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The strong point of Microsoft is that when you pay to use Office apps on all your devices (for an annual $100 for a family), and you get 1Tb of storage basically for free. That’s quite a good deal.
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Very useful vid. My phone is choc full and I need to get stuff off of it. At the end of it all I am still thinking I will have to airdrop it all onto my computer chunk by chunk. I don't really feel like paying for iCloud and I don't like the idea of having the creation dates erased. This means I'll have to have my own manual organization via folders by category which is a monumental task. I still haven't found the best solution. But this video cleared up a ton.
He missed a feature that is in google photos. Google photos app has "free up space". you can delete photos from your tablet or phone without deleting them from the cloud.
Very true @Chauncy P. I did not discuss Google Photos all that much, or that feature, but that option is a double edged sword. If you're a user who uses iCloud Photos for syncing, and you use that "Free Up Space" option on the iPhone or iPad, what it does is delete the photos and videos locally from the Apple Photos App. This in return would delete it from iCloud. Then all you're doing is using Google Photos as your location for your Photos and as with any of the services, if you delete from the cloud, it deletes it everywhere. So I can see that option of being useful for reclaiming storage on device locally, but if one doesn't fully understand the impact, it could do more harm than good. Especially for users using iCloud Photos as their primary photo cloud syncing. I hope that helps! Thanks so much for watching! If you would like to support me and the content I’m creating, please feel free to SUBSCRIBE and use SUPER THANKS on the video if you haven’t already! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated! If you know someone who may benefit from this video, feel free to share it along!
@@Learnwithjoel I have a ipad and a S22 Ultra. I don't use icloud for storing photos. I use google photos and I can access my photos in the cloud and keep my devices space open for other things.
@@ChauncyChristopher Sounds like a good setup. So for you, using the option for Google Photos to "Free Up Space" makes complete sense. It will wipe everything from the Apple Photos App. I would not be able to do that as I use iCloud Photos and it would wipe all my photos from all my devices! Google Photos is pretty good and especially if you're not taking advantage of other syncing options like Keychains, iMessage, Bookmarks, etc, Google Photos is a great alternative for iCloud! Thanks for the conversation!
@@ChauncyChristopher For sure! As long as it works for them and they're not paying for two cloud storage on accident, it's no harm! All about knowing how it works!
Nobody talks about the fact that google photo deletes all images backed up on cloud from your device freeing up your phone, iCloud is actually storing on the phone only the lower quality version to save space, but like me if you have 50k images even if reduced in size takes up to 30gb on my phone. So basically if you have a huge amount of photos google photo is better, if you have less amount of photo stay with iCloud. Would you agree ?
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Great explanation, Joel. There are shared albums feature in Apple Photos that works great. You do not need to share all your library, just what you need to share.
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Microsoft is the only proper backup that puts your photos as files in an organized folder and than displays them in gallery. Try getting your files as files from iCloud or google drive. It’s a mess
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I always get frustrated with these comparisons when they do not announce a clear winner. The benefit of the cloud is way more than convenience to avoid physically downloading but 1. Security. Computers get lost, stolen, obsolete and damaged . Why would risk having your information tethered to one device. 2. Accessible. You will need to access you information from any location. Your device may not always be with you. 3. Saves the storage space on your device which will run slower the more files you have on it. 4. $2 to $10 a month is still a cheap price for data storage.
Hi @David R! I think you're correct, the benefit is way more than convenience and such. I also think it's so hard to have a clear winner as some users are very loyal to one particular brand and system. I personally choose iCloud as I have all Apple products. If I used a windows computer and Android phone, I would highly recommend and use Google cloud system. I totally agree that it's a cheap price for peace of mind! Thanks so much for watching! If this video was helpful and you learned something new, please SUBSCRIBE to my channel if you haven’t already! If you want to support my content click THANKS below or better yet, SHARE it with a friend on social media and say how it helped you! It helps more than you know and is greatly appreciated!
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GOOGLE PHOTO IS TRASHHHHHH. I HATE IT. ALREADY LOST SO MUCH MEMORIES. THERE IS NO OPTION TO DELETE CLOUD ONLY FILES FROM THE ALREADY BACKED UP FILES. . IF I DELETE THE CLOUD FILE THEN MY LOCAL FILES GOT DELETED TOO. WHAT A SHAME. IM VERY ANGRY AT GOOGLE PHOTO
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Oct 2024 Edit: Yes, iCloud/photos app on iPhone can save photos and videos at a lower resolution OR full resolution. “Optimize iPhone storage” is apples way of helping save space on your iphone. However, like I mentioned before, it a syncing service not a true cloud storage. Nevertheless, I personally use iCloud and Google photos to save my pictures. You always want to have at least two copies. Having a third copy stored in some type of NAS would be the best but I am too lazy XD and I feel safe with my two digital copies.
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Agree: This video is summed up between 9:14-9:55. Most people will be delete photos from their physical devices to free up space.
If I delete all my pictures on my iPhone… iCloud will delete ALL my pictures from the iCloud.
If I delete all my pictures on my iPhone… Google/Microsoft will have a copy in the cloud!!!
Disagree: 11:20-12:02 -Why did you make it sound like they are all the same? It is very misleading when you compare deleting directly from iPhone to deleting directly from the cloud storage.
With respect to all 3 of these cloud storages…If you delete pictures directly from your backup (cloud storage) it’s obvious it will delete from all your devices cloud apps. However, if I delete a picture on my Google/Microsoft cloud it will still be available on my iPhone (assuming it’s saved in local apple photos app).
(The more I look into this… the more I am realizing that iCloud is not a “true” cloud storage and it just syncs.)
Agreed, I don't think he's explaining this correctly. Why would I want to pay for a cloud that it's not actually backing up my files but just syncing?. Makes way more sense to have a cloud that helps you free up space on your devices such as google or Microsoft
thanks for this
you got it right and simple
@@sofia-vach Agreed, I think something was missing from the explanation. Goggle's photo app on the iphone gives you the extra option to delete the photo from the device (iphone) so that you are freeing up phone storage, but the photo remains in Google Cloud. This is not synch -like behavior and is exactly the kind of control Apple needs to provide so that we can truly manage our storage space. Apple's optimize setting is confusing and not transparent to the user. I hate to sound cynical, but Apple seems more intent in making it hard to manage device storage so we have to buy more expensive phones.
Correction: Apple automatically deletes original photos from the device leaving a thumbnail only and uploading the original file to iCloud.
Other backup service doesn’t do this.
I have my google photos and phone to automatically load to cloud and delete from device. With having a cloud storage I don’t need or want anything to send a copy to every device I have be it a sample or the real picture that’s still taking space on every device you got if have iCloud for the same picture.
Your video helped me alot understanding these clouds. Thanks
Hi, thankyou for your explanation. I have a question for you. After backup all photos to onedrive, can i restore it to my iphone?
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I would argue that OneDrive is an actual backup. It can sync photos to their cloud storage, but if you delete it from OneDrive, it deletes from every other device that is signed in with that same Microsoft Account.
You would want to make sure that your photos are sync to another location and possibly backed up to an external drive or something else to be a little more secure.
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I am so confused. So you do indeed show us that deleting a photo from your iphone, deletes it from icloud storage. But that's not what I want, what's even the point of that? I want to free up space on my devices, therefore you can double it as a backup to icloud. Is there a way where if I delete it from my device, it STAYS in icloud. If I want to save space on my icloud, I'll just delete it from there. But then again, does' that have the exact same reversed effect? Will it delete it from my device?
Video was extremely helpful. You are very good at explaining how the various options work. Thanks!
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14:05 OneDrive can also share, per file and per folder, view (read-only) and view+edit, and you can mix & match so view+edit with some people, view only with others .
I already use onedrive, and if i want to use icloud at the same time, does onedrive only get the low resolution photos uploaded because icloud optimizes space?
No @littlem5771, OneDrive and iCloud can work independently of one another. iCloud Optimization feature is specifically designed for Apple devices so that it takes up less space locally on the device so you can have access to all of your content.
The moment you view a photo/video, it will download the high resolution file.
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What if I upload fotos from iPhone to onedrive, delete the photos on the iPhone, do new photos and start the upload again. Are the old photos which I deleted still in onedrive, or are they deleted? Thanks for help me.
Great question @Philipp Osanna!
If you have synced a photo/video from your iPhone within the Apple Photos app to the Microsoft OneDrive App, it makes a copy to OneDrive. That means if you delete in Apple Photos App, it will still be in OneDrive.
If you have the option turned on within OneDrive to automatically upload new photos, then yes, every new picture/video you take will auto upload.
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Thanks for the great video. I think what i was looking for is the feature is called "Free up space" from google photos. Where they remove the storage space of the photos/videos from your phone physical storage (so i can take more photos/videos) and yet still viewable from the phone's google photos app and download them when I need to edit or send it.
Is there a feature like this on iCloud photos that clean up iPhone's physical storage space but still viewable and editable when needed?
That’s what I’m ripping my hair out trying to understand!!!
Thank you for this! I’ve always had concerns of deleting photos on my device, thinking that it’ll be available on the cloud. Apple needs to have an option where deleting on your device DOES NOT delete it on the cloud.
Can't you just turn backup off delete photos then turn it back on?
@@jcap8391Seems like a lot of hassle for something that google photos does automatically
ios does it for you actually, if it notices your phones storage is getting low it offload videos and photos on your phone and need internet to view full quality or play video
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If I delete a photo from icloud. Will it delete it from my local system? That's what worries me, it's confusing. Because it is in 'sync.'
Hello Joel,
Thank you very much for your videos I have honestly never found anything more useful in-depth content about apple photos than your videos.
I Have really gone through all your apple photos content but I'm still having a question and I hope you can help me with it.
I'm currently using I cloud photos and I'm trying to have 2 iCloud photo libraries, 1 is the main library which will have all my few picked photos (as a system library to sync with my iPhone) And the other will be for the archive photos for random photos I take on my iPhone.
The question is: Is there a way I can move/export photos from my iPhone as a monthly routine to the second Library so I can save my ICloud storage and keep my main photo library clean?
The final goal is to have a picked albums photo library as my main library for ICloud that is synced with my devices, and a second photo library that is not synced but has all the random photos that I don't need from the first I cloud library.
Very very sorry for my long comment but I hope you can answer me.
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Brilliant! Your extensive knowledge across different cloud storages shows. I'm pleased you stressed being signed in with the same account. That was my issue. The fleeting graphics that appeared on-screen helped too.
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Excellent, thank you. I was concerned that closing out my iCloud services might somehow affect my OneDrive, but now knowing that it won't is a big relief!
Do you have any info on how to share about compressing and sharing phone videos?
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I do not have any videos related to that. What type of phone do you have? What exactly are you trying to do? Are you trying to take long high quality videos and make the file size smaller so it's easier to share them?
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Hi Joel. QUESTION: Good explanations. Would you mind sharing which tools you use to create your screen recordings of devices with callouts and gesture and cursor animations? I’m working on short videos for seniors who use iPhones and iPads mostly with Windows laptops. Thanks
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I use all Mac tools. I screen record using the built in QuickTime Player. I edit with Final Cut Pro X, and many of the animations and callouts are created in Apple Motion and I use many of the plugins from a company called @motionvfx. They have amazing plugins and templates for Final Cut Pro and other products.
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Hi joe great vids been a long time Mac user but learn from all your vids .
Question I have that you can hopefully help me with
I have a MacBook Pro 2021 with the M1 chip, should I use file vault, I have read so many different things, some saying the m1 chips does it automatically.
I use time machine and I encrypted that but it’s the internal ssd that I can’t find a solid answer for.
Many thanks
Great question @Steve h!
I guess it depends on how secure you want to be. The T2 security chip that was in the intel Macs that automatically encrypted the Mac is now included within the M1 chips, so yes your Mac would already be encrypted, but you could still turn on FileVault to add yet another layer of protection.
Apple Platform Security (this may be most relevant to your M1 Mac)
support.apple.com/guide/security/welcome/web
Below is a support article related to the T2 Security Chip, but again its for previous Macs.
Encrypt Mac data with FileVault
support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/encrypt-mac-data-with-filevault-mh11785/mac
Mac models with the Apple T2 Security Chip
support.apple.com/en-us/HT208862
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So just to confirm, if i have my phone gallery pics, on my one drive and google pics, i can delete my phone storage pictures and they wont delete off one drive or google pics, right?
Hi @claudiagarcia65!
It's been a while since I used photos in Microsoft OneDrive.
I just tested this the other day with Google Photos. If I take a Photo and it goes into iCloud Photos, it will sync to Google Photos. If I delete that photo in Google Photos, it will delete there as well as iCloud Photos locally. If I delete it only from iCloud Photos, it does not delete it from Google Photos.
I'm not sure if Microsoft has changed anything on their end. I would verify that all photos are syncing to Microsoft and then try to delete one from iCloud. I do know that with all of these cloud storages, they offer a recently deleted. So even if you accident delete a photo, you can recover it!
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I propose an idea for another interesting video: compare how google-icloud-onedrive export photos (for safekeeping on a harddisk). I found that exporting photos out of icloud is cumbersome and does not preserve the creation date. All copies of photos you save on your mac are dated the day you export them!
I agree. It scrambles all the pictures up according to the date you exported. I only exported one month from iCloud to hard
drive and it took a LONG time.
Agreed, I believe Google strips the metadata from the photos uploaded and stores it separately, so if you want to store on a NAS then an app to stitch the data back to the photo is required… more work!
Thanks for this informative video.
I have one unanswered question: Is there a way to back up photos to ONLY OneDrive, and not iCloud, but still see the compressed photos in my iPhone photos library?
Here is my situation:
- I am a Microsoft user with 1TB of storage included in a Microsoft Family Plan (~$100/yr) which 3 of us split the cost of, so it's super cheap annually. I have ~250GB of photos from my SLR saved here in addition to phone photos so it's worth it for me.
- I am also an iPhone user; I back up phone photos (gazillions of them) to iCloud and I pay monthly for iCloud storage too. Bummer.
- I like that since my photos automatically back up to iCloud, my iPhone saves a compressed version of the photos on my phone so I can still see them all in my photos app library without eating up as much physical storage space on my phone. My understanding is that the OneDrive app does not do the same thing - either you are downloading to view in full res, or if you're offline you can't see anything.
So, is there a way to replace the iCloud part of this equation with OneDrive and not pay for 2 cloud solutions?
Is there an "automatic" way to "switch" to OneDrive to back up iPhone photos that won't result in instantly eating up all the physical space on the iPhone? (I fear that if I turn off sync to iCloud, my phone will try to save all the full-resolution photos to my device and I'll run out of space lickety-split. Is that a true assumption?) I do find all this tricky to solve. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help!
did you find the answers to your questions?
Finally, i got an answer to my very very long question? Thanks a lot
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Thanks for the explanation. I've subscribed to your channel. My problem is that I use a PC not Apple laptop and Iphone and ipad. I have photos stored in icloud, My drive and google pictures. Is it possible to combine them into just one?
I am totally synced w all three devices i-pad 9, MacBook Air and iPhone 13. all are up to date, and all settings the same. BUT when I delete old mails or messages on MacBook, they do not delete on other two devices. I just manually deleted 400 old emails on MacBook (I'm behind!) and will have to manually delete off iPad and iPhone. help!
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Do you have more than one email account that you use? Are you deleting emails from your iCloud email address? Or do you have an email address that ends in something other than @iCloud.com or @me.com?
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I use OneDrive as a backup of photos but i primarily use iCloud now for everything. BUT i use Microsoft Office and pay for it so i get 1TB storage with it
I hear ya @driver288, Microsoft can be pretty decent and the price isn't bad considering it comes with that storage and access to all their apps.
I will say that Amazon Photos is another great alternative. Included with an Amazon Prime subscription, they offer unlimited photo storage at full quality. Very nice option! For video they give you 5GB and then it can add up pretty quickly, but check out Amazon photos if you have a prime account!
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all 3 of my family members have phones....I would love to purchase icloud+ 2TB so we can all share storage for photos, but it is so horrible that icloud photos is still not a backup and only a sync service...it is google photos for all of us until apple makes their photo service a proper backup service.
There's nothing wrong with choosing to use Google Photos instead of iCloud and it's syncing services @LulaPlays!
As long as you understand how it all works together, that's the most important thing!
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Correction - the cloud doesn't delete photos off your device, only off the cloud app installed on the device itself. There do not seem to be any options in settings allowing you to sync deletions off your device and the cloud no matter where they are deleted (even though this would be against the point of having a backup), although most deletions have a 30 day restore option unless deleted from trash.
Hello,
I also noticed this, for example, that if I delete a photo in Google Photos in the browser, it only deletes them from the program on my phone, but the photos themselves remain. but then in the settings I saw an additional button ‘’unsynced devices’’ And by clicking there you can physically delete photos from the iPhone. Sorry for my English, I'm working with Google translator.
I have a 256 GB iPhone and maxed out on photos. If I purchase a 2TB iCloud I still can only sync 256GB. What is a good backup solution so I can free up my iPhone storage yet still have my photos saved and organized in the cloud? Google photos?
You cleared up so many questions I had about the relationships with iPhone photos and iCloud web photos; Google App photos on my iPhone and Google web photos; and Microsoft OneDrive photos. Awesome video--thanks so much!
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Dear Joel, these are very interesting topics. I have an Icload account, but sometimes I observe an unsynchronization between Macbook, iPad and Windows PC, all using the same account. Please tell me how I can obtain full synchronization between my devices. Thank you!
Hi @Emanuel Vamanu!
What content is not syncing among your devices? Photos, contacts, calendars?
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Hi @Emanuel Vamanu!
My next question would be what type of files are not syncing. There are some file formats that do not sync and some other possible limitations. I actually have two other videos dedicated to iCloud Drive for the Mac and iOS devices that may help. I'll link below for reference:
How to use iCLOUD DRIVE on your Mac, iPhone and iPad - IN DEPTH understanding of syncing your files!
th-cam.com/video/zHZLbR2tq1g/w-d-xo.html
UNDERSTANDING Apple's FILES App and HOW TO ORGANIZE DOCUMENTS in iCLOUD DRIVE on an iPhone and iPad!
th-cam.com/video/yYvDZq8dD5M/w-d-xo.html
Also is there a particular device that the files don't show up on? Do the files show up on iCloud.com?
Simple Sync with Apple (if you use Apple), Archive with another service. Then deleting doesn't affect the archive. It's not complicated.
Hello,
I think that Google photos are not exactly the same as Apple photos, although they are somewhat similar, but the logic of work is different. If I understand correctly, Google Photos does not physically download photos to the phone's memory when we view them. And there is even a function to delete all photos from the phone that have already been uploaded to the cloud. It turns out that the Google Photos program itself helps to interact with what is in the cloud. And what about storing high-quality photos that don’t take up space in cloud storage? Let me share my scenario and usage. I uploaded my entire media library to Google in photo quality and sorted it by album. So that at any time I can see them on my iPhone and I keep a copy of the original source on my backup hard drive. Naturally, I use Apple Photos themselves in order not to lose photos that I have not yet managed to sort to load into a clean album and have not made a backup copy. What do you think about this? Thanks for the video tutorials, I like to understand Apple topics together.
Great insight @Jugin27!
So the native Apple Photos App on an iPhone and the Google Photos App on the iPhone do work hand in hand.
Let's look at the following concepts:
Concept 1:
Let's say you have a Google account with no photos stored in google. It's completely brand new. When you install that app on the iPhone, it will show you every single photo from the native Apple iCloud Photo app. If you delete a photo from Google Photos, it will delete it also from Apple iCloud Photos.
If you have syncing turned on with Google photos app to do backup and sync, it will delete from google as well.
This is the same exact way Apple iCloud Photos works. If you take google photos out of the equation and you just have Apple iCloud Photos, when you delete a photo for the Apple Photos app, it will be deleted on every other device signed in with that account, including "the iCloud".
Concept 2:
As far as storage related to optimizing high resolution files and lower quality files, I think they work pretty similar.
Apple has the ability to optimize Apple iCloud Photos so that you can see all photos at any given time, but it will offload them if not viewed for 30 days to free up storage.
Google has the ability to "backup" photos to the Google Cloud to do the same thing, but the photo still takes up storage on the iPhone even if it is a lower quality file that is optimized. It's still storage used. You can verify that when you look at the iPhone storage settings.
Concept 3:
This is where it often gets confusing...
When you take a photo on your iPhone, it shows up in both the native Apple Photos app and also Google Photos. If you delete from Google Photos, it deletes it from everywhere in Google Photos and it also deletes it in iCloud Photos. It's gone everywhere.
If you delete a photo from iCloud Apple Photos, it does not delete it from Google Photos. So sure you free up a little space by not having in the Apple iCloud Photo Library, but that photo is still in Google Photos, which still takes up space either locally or in Google Cloud storage.
So long story short, is my point is that they both act the same way in the since of syncing. If you exclusively use Google Photos, if you take a picture it syncs everywhere where your google account is used. If you delete that same photo, it's deleted everywhere the google account is used.
The same thing happens with Apple iCloud Photos.
I hope that makes sense!
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Hello, thank you for such a complete, detailed answer. It's nice to see how people care about their work. I like modern technologies; they allow people from different parts of the world to interact together. This is cool.
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I enjoy Google software on my amazing Apple hardware. I let Google sync with my Apple photos and use Google photos to edit and share all my photos.
I find Google sync to be many times faster and more reliable. I just hide my Apple apps in case I need them.
Also, Google search of my photos is leagues ahead of Apple in my opinion.
Google is better with file types and sharing outside of the Apple ecosystem as well.
The cost of Google photo storage for the extra redundancy is well worth it to me.
I agree that Apple and Google are very good in different ways @Flightgamer!
I wish Google had an actual photo editing software locally on the Mac however and I do believe that their file sharing is still better than Apple. I think it's important for any user to just understand the ecosystem, benefits and limitations of each.
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What about live photos slow mo videos gif and creating albums does it sync icloud and google
Thank you Joe for explaining this. For over 3 years I struggling with up to 13x multiple duplicating photos and files on my ios and iPad. Apple Tech support tell me it’s because i have my photo and file syncing ‘on’ other applications. I have completed every requested recommendation, problem still exists. I hope someday to get an answer and a fix.
You're very welcome @BluesA.
So I can see that if you're having multiples of duplicating content, it could certainly be related to using multiple apps for syncing photos within multiple cloud solutions. I would highly recommend to stick to one only for photo syncing.
I know specifically for Google Drive, they have options to sync photos to not only Google Photos but also Google Drive and I think it even warns about it creating duplicates if you do that.
I would focus with one cloud solution as a starting point. If you have a Mac there are some great tools for finding and helping with duplicate photos within Apple Photos. I will link a video for reference incase you have a Mac.
HOW TO DELETE DUPLICATE PHOTOS in Apple Photos - IN DEPTH review of software to FIX your Duplicates!
th-cam.com/video/VpQ5kDc3BvQ/w-d-xo.html
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Hi! Great video! I ran into a problem. I'm using iCloud Photos but also sync/backup to Google Photos. When I deleted a photo on Google Photos (because a ran out of space on Google) my iCloud also changed. Unfortunately I lost important photos this way.
Are u using a subscription package?
I’ve noticed losing some EXIF data when I downloaded pics from GooglePhotos while that EXIF was intact in first place.
I'm not sure about that one @fedepetit!
When you export from Google Photos, what information isn't in the metadata? Also where is the photo coming from originally? Did you take a photo with your iPhone and then sync to Google Photos and then export it from there?
Also what device are you on when you're trying to see the exported photo?
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I found your video to be very informative. I am a photographer who still likes to use a 35mm camera along with my Android phone ,Windows computers and my Ipad when traveling the world.
Thank you
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Really solid video, definitely helped me understand that the Apple photos isn’t just a photos app, when you add iCloud photos into the mix it becomes a cloud service bucket.
I think one of the biggest misconceptions with individuals that are part of the Apple ecosystem using Google Photos or OneDrive over iCloud photos is that those services act as a backup for their photos that are both on their “photos app” and in either Google’s or Microsoft’s cloud. This is something that I’ve fallen into and is one of the reasons I use Google Photos. I still have everything on my device, but I also have it backed up and if I delete it from my device, it won’t be deleted from the cloud I’m using.
For now, this is a feasible approach for me as a family plan user but in the future that may change. Your video definitely helped me decide and sort some of my own usage details out. Thanks!
Happy to hear this demoed a little clarification for you @Braxton Huff! I agree totally with your reflection and comment!
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This is a great video. Very helpful
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Thank you. Such a clear and useful video. I also watched your great video on Time Machine backup. If one's logic board was replaced, which mine was, would I use only Time Machine to re-setup my rebuilt Mac or would I also need to avail of my cloud drives.
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Really good explanations! I use an iPhone, iPad and HP laptop. I have iCloud storage, Google storage and (barely used) One Drive. So this explanation truly helped. Thank you!! I’m still trying figure out which photo file my Google Home display photos come from so I can manipulate it.
This video should have addressed the issue of backups. A cloud storage is not only storage, it is a very safe backup solution. If you do not have a cloud service, you need to get into making multiple copies of things and always have a copy offsite in case of disaster. Clound storage becomes very convenient when you consider it saves a whole lot of pain associated with backups
Hi @MrMartin246!
I most likely didn't reference backups as this video was not intended for that topic. I agree that having a cloud solution is important in addition to having your content backed up locally, but some of these cloud solutions I wouldn't consider a 100% backup solution.
I do have several other videos related to backing up devices and data that I will link below for reference:
iCLOUD BACKUPS - WHAT you NEED TO KNOW when it comes to backing up PHOTOS, iPHONES and your devices!
th-cam.com/video/7ep9pREplD8/w-d-xo.html
How to BACKUP your iPHONE or iPAD using iTunes, Finder and iCloud! - STEP BY STEP GUIDE
th-cam.com/video/Uz7zVGEkPmE/w-d-xo.html
BACKUP YOUR MAC! - IN-DEPTH look at Apple Time Machine and many ways to save and recover your files!
th-cam.com/video/LXl4QkrsxHQ/w-d-xo.html
How to BACKUP iCLOUD PHOTOS! Options for your Mac, iPhone and iPad! Cloud or No Cloud!
th-cam.com/video/pWZZlYU62ts/w-d-xo.html
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@@Learnwithjoel What I meant is to at least mention that in the Cloud vs Local debate, backup is part of the story and cloud storage provide some kink of protection. I understand you have other videos more specifically about backups but the two subjects are definitely related. Cheers.
So why not have google or one drive backup from the desktop computer instead if you're already having it download original files?
So in other words if I don’t want to use a cloud service then I have to get a portable hard disk to save t
Question I have if I have a 512 storage of photos and no more cause my Mac has only 512 stoage on my Mac and I have 1terbyte storage on a cloud service that means I can only store 512 of photos even though I have 1 terabyte of storage on the cloud
I would have preferred if the 2 devices would not sync and then just go to my cloud and download only what I need use it and then delete it of my computer and still have it available on my cloud
Very nice explanation. I have 50Gb icloud space, which is now almost full. What I do, is sync my photo roll on my iphone with my Onedrive (1Tb), and delete the photos from icloud.
I want to try this bc i also have Office family plan - but am nervous to make the switch.. how do you delete the photos from icloud? by manually deleting them from the iphone photos library after confirming they have successfully synced to onedrive?
@@megvp2969 Manually deleting is the way I do it, 1) because I don't know another way, and 2) just to make sure I don't delete photos that are not in onedrive. When I have made sure, I select multiple items on my iphone (easier on ipad with a bigger screen). Because you can swipe over a row of photos, the deletion process does not take much. Remember that they stay in icloud's dustbin for 30 days.
@@Dirk80241 That's helpful - thanks!
Hi Joel, I’m thinking of getting iCloud because, well I only use Apple products. 🤗 but I do take photos with my Nikon d3500 and put the RAW files on my extern HDD, can I upload those raw photos to the iCloud as well?
Great question @BSHokke!
Yes, Apple does support a long list of supported cameras for RAW files. I shoot Canon, and have never had an issue uploading to iCloud, and I'm guessing you shouldn't have any issue with Nikon.
Digital camera RAW formats supported by iOS 15, iPadOS 15, and macOS Monterey
support.apple.com/en-us/HT212821
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I don’t have space on my iPhone storage because I have too many photos How do I free up space on my phone, keep all my photos on iCloud
Great question @Reza Jafari!
iPhones and iPads don't have the ability to add local storage after your purchase. You can't expand it. So essentially you have two options to free up space physically on your device.
1. You delete content. So whether it's text messages, photos, videos, or whatever, this will always free up space on your device. Naturally though, this does not solve the issue as then you will lose them if they're not in any cloud service or copied to another device.
2. When you use a cloud service like iCloud or Google, you have the ability to optimize the storage of your device such as your iPhone. This comes with a cost as you then need to pay for storage in that cloud system so the photos can be copied there.
The best thing to do if you use iCloud is to turn on the option in the Photo Settings for "Optimize iPhone Storage". This is located directly on your iPhone settings in: iCloud > Photos > Optimize iPhone Storage
I have a whole video on this concept that I will link below. It's a little older video, but still very relevant.
FREE UP SPACE on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac - The BEST WAY to OPTIMIZE iPhone & iPad Storage
th-cam.com/video/bGmN-C-6W7A/w-d-xo.html
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So, what is the point of paying for more storage on the cloud, if I’m limited by my physical storage on iPad?
I don't think your suggestion that they are all the same is quite right - if you have both iCloud and Google Photos on your iPhone and you take a photo, then that photo will be uploaded to both types of cloud and synchronised as you say. The KEY DIFFERENCE is that if you then delete that photo from the 'photos' app on your iPhone IT WILL STAY IN GOOGLE PHOTOS but will be deleted from all your linked iCloud devices and lost (if you then also delete it in the 'google photos' app then it will be deleted from all of your google storage and lost too). To this end, google photos acts more like a backup system where you can delete photos from your phone to make space and know they are safely stored in google photos, whereas iCloud works as a single photo reel across all of your devices (i.e., delete it on your mac, and it will be deleted on your phone too).
I can't argue that @jlockwood131, if a user is paying and using both iCloud and Google.
I was more suggesting that independently they are more similar. If a user is using iCloud Photos, when they take a photo it syncs to all other devices using iCloud Photos with the same account. If that same photo gets deleted, it gets deleted from all the same devices.
Same is true if you're just using Google Photos. If you take a photo and it syncs to Google Photos, when you delete that photo within Google Photos, it will be removed from all other locations within Google Photos that is using the same account.
I would say that the majority of users are not paying for iCloud Storage and Google Storage, and if they are, it could be on accident, or the user really knows what's going on with having two cloud locations for redundancy.
Now on the flip side...If you're in Google Photos on your iPhone or iPad and delete a photo, it gives you a message saying:
"Allow "Google Photos" to delete this photo? This photo will be deleted from iCloud Photos on all your devices. It will be in Recently Deleted for 30 days."
So from that stand point, that can too be deceiving. None the less, I always recommend with one Cloud solution as your syncing and then backup locally to a physical drive and never rely 100% on any cloud.
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Just thought I'd mention this. Apple also has a family share option for photos, videos and documents on its iCloud subscription. Meaning an account holder of a paid iCloud subscription can add other family members with different Apple id's or accounts to share that one paid subscription for their combined storage, and each family member would still retain the privacy to view, download or delearlt their own individual content.
@11:23 google and microsoft do not work the same way....the whole point of google photos is that you can delete photos from your iPhone and the items still stay backed up in google photos....if you delete the photo from icloud or from your phone, it is deleted on the phone AND icloud and you lose the photo. you don't lose photos if your photos are backed up with google photos.
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I appreciate your response and thoughts on the comparison.
The reason I say that Google Photos works the same way as iCloud Photos is because of the following.
If you have multiple devices using Google Photos, it doesn't even have to be an apple product. If you were to delete a photo from Google Photos via a web browser, it would delete it from an android phone using Google Photos. If you were to delete a photo from Google Photos on an Android phone or even iPhone, it would delete that photo from Google Photos on a Mac, PC, or web browser. It's still a syncing service for convenience, no different that iCloud Photos.
Now as far as using Google Photos on an iPhone and how it correlates to iCloud Photos, it is true that Google Photos will copy and save your photos to Google Photos from the iPhone where they can be deleted, but what does this achieve? This only means that you now have to pay for storage on Google instead of iCloud for your pictures.
Neither iCloud Photos or Google Photos is truly a "Backup" of photos as if you delete the photos from that location, it deletes if from all other locations where you're signed in with the same account.
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nice one Joel . great explanation
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Icloud is a definite no for me because i found out once you transfer photos and videos it does not transfer with date time years, you have to do that manually.
How do you compare the privacy of the google photo vs. iCloud? I may not want to share my photo automatically with all google friends. Possible?
Icloud and google photos is hosted in Google cloud
13:50 Apple Photos does have Family Sharing it's called (Shared Albums)
Very true @Richard Clarke! I probably could have expended on this, but I didn’t. Even though Apple does offer Shared Albums, which I have a video on this topic that I’ll link below, the difference is that Google has the ability to have albums automatically share with other users the moment you take a photo and it uploads to the cloud and you can choose to share your whole entire library with someone.
That would be a nice feature for Apple to add.
iCloud Photo SHARED ALBUMS - GET STARTED with sharing photos with ANYONE on ANY DEVICE!
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@@Learnwithjoel Exactly, with Google Photos you can share automatically photos of an specific person, pets or place with others. For example, I can setup share automatically all the photos where Google Photos detects my pet with my mom haha this without pick and share "manually" every photo of my pet. It's a great feature.
Great content Joel
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The strong point of Microsoft is that when you pay to use Office apps on all your devices (for an annual $100 for a family), and you get 1Tb of storage basically for free. That’s quite a good deal.
I use Google One. It's the best 👌
Google One does have a lot of great options @Oscar Espinoza!
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thank u for this😮
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Thanks for this explanation. I was confused and unsure how my iCloud acct was syncing with my Google Photos acct.👍🏽👍🏽
Very useful vid. My phone is choc full and I need to get stuff off of it. At the end of it all I am still thinking I will have to airdrop it all onto my computer chunk by chunk. I don't really feel like paying for iCloud and I don't like the idea of having the creation dates erased. This means I'll have to have my own manual organization via folders by category which is a monumental task. I still haven't found the best solution. But this video cleared up a ton.
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Why can't we just keep backup on for iCloud ? iPhone takes backups almost everyday.
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He missed a feature that is in google photos. Google photos app has "free up space". you can delete photos from your tablet or phone without deleting them from the cloud.
Very true @Chauncy P. I did not discuss Google Photos all that much, or that feature, but that option is a double edged sword.
If you're a user who uses iCloud Photos for syncing, and you use that "Free Up Space" option on the iPhone or iPad, what it does is delete the photos and videos locally from the Apple Photos App.
This in return would delete it from iCloud. Then all you're doing is using Google Photos as your location for your Photos and as with any of the services, if you delete from the cloud, it deletes it everywhere.
So I can see that option of being useful for reclaiming storage on device locally, but if one doesn't fully understand the impact, it could do more harm than good. Especially for users using iCloud Photos as their primary photo cloud syncing.
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@@Learnwithjoel I have a ipad and a S22 Ultra. I don't use icloud for storing photos. I use google photos and I can access my photos in the cloud and keep my devices space open for other things.
@@ChauncyChristopher Sounds like a good setup. So for you, using the option for Google Photos to "Free Up Space" makes complete sense. It will wipe everything from the Apple Photos App. I would not be able to do that as I use iCloud Photos and it would wipe all my photos from all my devices! Google Photos is pretty good and especially if you're not taking advantage of other syncing options like Keychains, iMessage, Bookmarks, etc, Google Photos is a great alternative for iCloud! Thanks for the conversation!
@@Learnwithjoel I agree that it's not for everyone. But I have setup people that travel a lot and need free space on their phone to grab new photos.
@@ChauncyChristopher For sure! As long as it works for them and they're not paying for two cloud storage on accident, it's no harm! All about knowing how it works!
Alguien que me pueda ayudar soluciones hacer posible una finanzas en Google
Nobody talks about the fact that google photo deletes all images backed up on cloud from your device freeing up your phone, iCloud is actually storing on the phone only the lower quality version to save space, but like me if you have 50k images even if reduced in size takes up to 30gb on my phone. So basically if you have a huge amount of photos google photo is better, if you have less amount of photo stay with iCloud. Would you agree ?
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Confusing video was willing to watch for benefits , and this guy telling different settings
Hi @nas9663!
Settings and software can certainly change depending on the device and OS that you're on.
What in particular was confusing?
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19:45 On Windows you can sync to OneDrive and Google. Apple can't on Mac? Is this bad design, or Apple locking you into their ecosystem?
Great explanation, Joel. There are shared albums feature in Apple Photos that works great. You do not need to share all your library, just what you need to share.
Thanks for the kind words @Oscar Uzín! I do often use the Shared iCloud Photo Albums and I have a videos specifically on that, which I'll link down below for reference, however there are some pros and cons about the shared albums for iCloud. Non the less, it's still nice to have!
iCloud Photo SHARED ALBUMS - GET STARTED with sharing photos with ANYONE on ANY DEVICE!
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I’m with iCloud 2TB and OneDrive 1TB.
❤Microsoft❤
Apple iCloud has all kinds of family sharing possibilities that you didn't even touch.
Microsoft is the only proper backup that puts your photos as files in an organized folder and than displays them in gallery. Try getting your files as files from iCloud or google drive. It’s a mess
Microsoft photos is mess really
Hi @John L.
I'd argue that Microsoft is a "proper backup". It stores the photos in picture folder within OneDrive. Which yes, it puts it into a nice folder structure, but it's also in the cloud and if you delete it from there, it deletes it from everywhere.
I find getting files from iCloud, Google Drive and OneDrive all very very similar. What kind of hurdles are you running into with getting files from those locations?
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Amen @ANJ!
Although I would argue that there really isn't a Photos App from Microsoft on Apple Products.
I agree, taking out photos from google and apple is a mess. Microsoft treats them as files into folders which is really a classic ❤
I always get frustrated with these comparisons when they do not announce a clear winner. The benefit of the cloud is way more than convenience to avoid physically downloading but
1. Security. Computers get lost, stolen, obsolete and damaged . Why would risk having your information tethered to one device.
2. Accessible. You will need to access you information from any location. Your device may not always be with you.
3. Saves the storage space on your device which will run slower the more files you have on it.
4. $2 to $10 a month is still a cheap price for data storage.
Hi @David R!
I think you're correct, the benefit is way more than convenience and such. I also think it's so hard to have a clear winner as some users are very loyal to one particular brand and system. I personally choose iCloud as I have all Apple products.
If I used a windows computer and Android phone, I would highly recommend and use Google cloud system.
I totally agree that it's a cheap price for peace of mind!
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Google photos is the best..
Google Photos is pretty good @Berkay Aybar!
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GOOGLE PHOTO IS TRASHHHHHH. I HATE IT. ALREADY LOST SO MUCH MEMORIES. THERE IS NO OPTION TO DELETE CLOUD ONLY FILES FROM THE ALREADY BACKED UP FILES. . IF I DELETE THE CLOUD FILE THEN MY LOCAL FILES GOT DELETED TOO. WHAT A SHAME. IM VERY ANGRY AT GOOGLE PHOTO
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