An absolute closeness and intimacy within the senses is what seems to be happening in experience. But it’s seen it’s happening to no one. Just awareness and Consciousness, which is universal. Awesome video ❤️ Great pointers. 🙏 Perspective seems to be crucial when doing this type of inquiry 🧐 seems to help a lot.
Some weird congealation went on then, and some some striking comparison to the pcilocybin experience, the visual in separation is tougher to wade through but with a good deep dilation I got a fish eyed viewpoint with no centre! just seeming 360 attention. Magic, love these longer deep dives. ❤
Thanks David I think I have to do this several times. Working with the sences is a excellent exercise. Personally I like the visual excersis. But I have work with the feeling and sound. These pointers are getting better and better! Greetings from Holland.
Wonderful pointing, thank you so much for this. Very clear that there is only one sensory field of experience. There is still a small amount of resistance felt in the body holding on to the concept of distance. More to play with. I do want to share that I have been playing here for quite a while and in the beginning I did experience a huge amount of energetic resistance and fear! 🙏🏻❤️🥰
Great David, very nice that you made this. For me it's a very vivid and liquid experience to cycle between the object out there and the me here. What also seems to happen is that my sight is slightly defocusing when orienting toward me. And I sometimes remember that the sensations that I feel as me are literally body sensations, and then it becomes a more intense investigation to look and find where this setup of me is constructed. I arrive at this observation that the looking itself feels like it sets up a looker, but I don't know if that should be relaxed or if it's completely fine that the investigation feels like it's being done by me. This is where the notion of expansion might come into play, after becoming very focused on identifying the setup of me. Do you have any thoughts David? Cheers
@@pointlessly.perfect Yeah that sounds good. The "being done by me" is a specific insight that matures after the Nondual nature of the senses clarifies. It remained for me as a real practice I was doing until no-self anatta. It seems there can be clear realisation of the Nondual nature of experience yet "fundamental/inherent view" - which is what goes away with no self realisation - still can remain very intact. But it's not something you really need to worry about I don't think. Enjoying the investigation and getting closely and presently into sense experience is enough. Moving attention between the subject and the object in the senses is a great practice. It's kind of like, doing these exercises and looking there/here happens for a while and then by accident almost it's just noticed that there is nothing happening when attention moves in this way other than thought. Then the whole exercise seems silly in a way because it's like something was looking for it's self, inside its self and made of it's self 😂 it's very much a relaxation, but it seems to require effort to get there sometimes. That's why I can't describe what anatta is like, because it's not like anything. The act of describing it and someone hearing that and understanding it is like an effort. No self is the Ultimate simplicity/relaxation in effortlessness. It's just the effort of trying to know has a momentum like tension to it that has to implode into its self before the simplicity of non-identity is clear 😂
I felt the sound replacing me and my heart rate went up felt energetic sensations in my body/ on my body, it was fear. This is the second time , first time it happened just out of nowhere , probes because of stress, this time after your warning I was kind of expecting it but still caught me off guard, as the sound was replacing me I felt me disappearing but I couldn’t let go or surrender to it and I’m not sure what to do with it but id guess sit with it if it happens again. After that I couldn’t really focus on the instructions, it was hard to tell the difference between thought and senses and disorientation it seems every time I try, I’m just led back to thoughts. There is uncomfortable disorientation, I believe, id normally grab on to thought but I don’t think that’s what I should do since I’ve been trying to stop identifying with thoughts. Take aways thinking/ looking for the separate sections creates the separation Thinking of me/ I, creates I and trying to get rid of I just reinforces the I or feeling of self, which seems like a sick joke lol. Which makes me think that trying to do anything implies/ creates the “I” sense. but in the moment, it was terrifying but after words it was funny. kind of low in mood but the experiences makes me laugh. I’m feeling confused, I get that I should let go of the resistance but I can’t even if I try sit with it it keeps rising, should I sit with it a overtime it’ll lighten up on its own. And why even this and other similar experiences does it not feel like the process of the mind have slowed down much? You were not lying in the shorts you posted before this upload, great video thank you
@@indiehintsho1488 Good work, great authenticity and direction. You already have the trait you need for this kind of work and are doing it. What happened I suggest is that there was a thinning of the subject/object split in your experience, which you described as sound replacing you. That relational function of self is faced with the unknown or the experience of its own absence, which is often interpreted as threat. So there is a knee-jerk pullback into an internal world as a defense mechanism. This way it can relate to experience and know where it is and what's going on. This happened to me more times than I can count 😂. My advice for this is always to engage in something with your practice which you can enjoy in a safe environment, without the suggestion of "I'm doing practice". Something sensory that you could easily do just for the sake of that without an agenda other than enjoyment. This way, the sensing that is happening becomes primary and the self won't be in defence mode. It can just be forgotten about 😂 when I did this, I was always walking. Eventually the environment replaced me and experience was walking it's self, but there was a back and forth in and out of an apparent internal world, residing as the one who is practicing or doing this. That's the tricky part. Because you can't will that away. You almost need to become so interested in the senses that you forget it lol.
🙏🙏🙏 new hobby it is. so appreciative of how you are pointing to this 💝
Great stuff! Thanks, I will continue with this. ❤
Very strong! I completely felt and glimpsed non-duality and the falling away of separation 🙏
Awesome 🙂 Yeah, totally weird lol.
An absolute closeness and intimacy within the senses is what seems to be happening in experience. But it’s seen it’s happening to no one. Just awareness and Consciousness, which is universal.
Awesome video ❤️ Great pointers. 🙏 Perspective seems to be crucial when doing this type of inquiry 🧐 seems to help a lot.
Some weird congealation went on then, and some some striking comparison to the pcilocybin experience, the visual in separation is tougher to wade through but with a good deep dilation I got a fish eyed viewpoint with no centre! just seeming 360 attention.
Magic, love these longer deep dives. ❤
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Thank you so much 💙
Thanks David I think I have to do this several times. Working with the sences is a excellent exercise. Personally I like the visual excersis. But I have work with the feeling and sound. These pointers are getting better and better!
Greetings from Holland.
Wonderful pointing, thank you so much for this. Very clear that there is only one sensory field of experience. There is still a small amount of resistance felt in the body holding on to the concept of distance. More to play with. I do want to share that I have been playing here for quite a while and in the beginning I did experience a huge amount of energetic resistance and fear! 🙏🏻❤️🥰
@@rowenahutchison4822 🙏
Thank you
This was awesome. Thanks mate. ❤
Great David, very nice that you made this.
For me it's a very vivid and liquid experience to cycle between the object out there and the me here.
What also seems to happen is that my sight is slightly defocusing when orienting toward me.
And I sometimes remember that the sensations that I feel as me are literally body sensations, and then it becomes a more intense investigation to look and find where this setup of me is constructed.
I arrive at this observation that the looking itself feels like it sets up a looker, but I don't know if that should be relaxed or if it's completely fine that the investigation feels like it's being done by me.
This is where the notion of expansion might come into play, after becoming very focused on identifying the setup of me.
Do you have any thoughts David? Cheers
@@pointlessly.perfect Yeah that sounds good. The "being done by me" is a specific insight that matures after the Nondual nature of the senses clarifies. It remained for me as a real practice I was doing until no-self anatta. It seems there can be clear realisation of the Nondual nature of experience yet "fundamental/inherent view" - which is what goes away with no self realisation - still can remain very intact. But it's not something you really need to worry about I don't think. Enjoying the investigation and getting closely and presently into sense experience is enough.
Moving attention between the subject and the object in the senses is a great practice. It's kind of like, doing these exercises and looking there/here happens for a while and then by accident almost it's just noticed that there is nothing happening when attention moves in this way other than thought. Then the whole exercise seems silly in a way because it's like something was looking for it's self, inside its self and made of it's self 😂 it's very much a relaxation, but it seems to require effort to get there sometimes.
That's why I can't describe what anatta is like, because it's not like anything. The act of describing it and someone hearing that and understanding it is like an effort. No self is the Ultimate simplicity/relaxation in effortlessness. It's just the effort of trying to know has a momentum like tension to it that has to implode into its self before the simplicity of non-identity is clear 😂
@difficult_to_describe I see. Thanks for getting back David :)
I felt the sound replacing me and my heart rate went up felt energetic sensations in my body/ on my body, it was fear. This is the second time , first time it happened just out of nowhere , probes because of stress, this time after your warning I was kind of expecting it but still caught me off guard, as the sound was replacing me I felt me disappearing but I couldn’t let go or surrender to it and I’m not sure what to do with it but id guess sit with it if it happens again. After that I couldn’t really focus on the instructions, it was hard to tell the difference between thought and senses and disorientation it seems every time I try, I’m just led back to thoughts. There is uncomfortable disorientation, I believe, id normally grab on to thought but I don’t think that’s what I should do since I’ve been trying to stop identifying with thoughts.
Take aways thinking/ looking for the separate sections creates the separation
Thinking of me/ I, creates I and trying to get rid of I just reinforces the I or feeling of self, which seems like a sick joke lol.
Which makes me think that trying to do anything implies/ creates the “I” sense. but in the moment, it was terrifying but after words it was funny.
kind of low in mood but the experiences makes me laugh.
I’m feeling confused, I get that I should let go of the resistance but I can’t even if I try sit with it it keeps rising, should I sit with it a overtime it’ll lighten up on its own. And why even this and other similar experiences does it not feel like the process of the mind have slowed down much?
You were not lying in the shorts you posted before this upload,
great video thank you
@@indiehintsho1488 Good work, great authenticity and direction. You already have the trait you need for this kind of work and are doing it.
What happened I suggest is that there was a thinning of the subject/object split in your experience, which you described as sound replacing you. That relational function of self is faced with the unknown or the experience of its own absence, which is often interpreted as threat. So there is a knee-jerk pullback into an internal world as a defense mechanism. This way it can relate to experience and know where it is and what's going on. This happened to me more times than I can count 😂.
My advice for this is always to engage in something with your practice which you can enjoy in a safe environment, without the suggestion of "I'm doing practice". Something sensory that you could easily do just for the sake of that without an agenda other than enjoyment. This way, the sensing that is happening becomes primary and the self won't be in defence mode. It can just be forgotten about 😂 when I did this, I was always walking. Eventually the environment replaced me and experience was walking it's self, but there was a back and forth in and out of an apparent internal world, residing as the one who is practicing or doing this. That's the tricky part. Because you can't will that away. You almost need to become so interested in the senses that you forget it lol.
when i read comments that are vulnerable and genuine, i feel like crying. reality , as lovely as it is, is constantly breaking my heart ❤
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