My thoughts exactly especially because of Mike Henry had to step down as a voice of Cleveland because of this. His new va does a wonderful job but to me it's just the principle of the matter
Kevin Michael Richardson has voiced characters of all races. If he only played black roles, we wouldn't have had The Batman 2004 Joker, or TMNT 2012 Shredder and many more. This english va is so stupid and hypocritical.
Should be but thanks to activists, now everything is different. But then comes the double standards that dark can play light but light cannot play dark due to culture. The VA doesn't even care how hypocritical it sounds.
@ericjeon2727 especially african Americans i didn't have anything against them but everytime i see things like this i feel like im subconsciously turning racist against them a bit scary because i should know better than to lump them all together because of some clowns
bro our own people are not even aware. I mean I guess you have to be an anime fan or gamer etc for you to see these issues so I'm not surprised but on thanksgiving my Brother in law asked what was going on with me I talked about games at one point how they're starting to become trash with DEI and obviously hes not gonna understand all that. All that stuff seeps into other communities and hobbies etc thats the problem. All of this BS DEI was birthed from all this metoo crap feminist stuff. All that stuff had a good cause at one point but the next generation ruined it taking it too far.
He is just passing a quote by Denzel Washington as if it is his own opinion. It's not even applicable here. Dude is turning an issue of respecting source material into race stuff.
They do it when it works in their favour, but when it doesn't they'll call them white. At an old job of mine, someone declared I need to check my privilege and 'know my place' while in their team, because they're "more diverse" than my last team and unlike my last team they're not all white. I replied "What? Most my last team were Asian?" and they replied "Yeah!? ... WHITE." Later on I was told they gathered en-masse with their inner circle and were discussing about me: "Hey, lets say he said THIS and we can cancel him for sure!" Quite literally plotting lies to get me fired just so they could get up on the whole 'Cancel Culture' high. The people who have these double standards pointed out in the video, are generally the same toxic crowd.
Southeast asian here, i also hate when they paint us SEAbros as only dark tan when we literally come in SO MANY colors from the lightest to the darkest 😂
*cough*Team Aqua's redesigns*cough* TBH I blame the localization philosophy on this, since it's hard to find human Pokemon characters with their original Japanese names.
@ @ maggiethedog9113 No you did not. By the way, your latest reply still lacks proper grammar. Please go back to grammar school if you are going to be a part of the self appointed grammar police.
@@christophermonteith2774 Yeah, I don’t think it can. I will say, though I absolutely hate the fact that the people that we have to trust to bring things over are some of the worst. Localizers a.k.a. lolcowsizers have made things an absolute joke and along with companies like Crunchyroll it’s all become a joke of nepotism and favoritism. There was a time when it was about talent, not about representation or other nonsense political talking points. They’ve made everything worse because they have to make everything about either identity politics or just regular politics.
Like Turbo Granny in Dandadan is Rita Replusa from Power Rangers. She just seems to be enjoying life using her Rita voice to swear up a storm at people.
Yea and I kinda hate that these guys are ruining other English VA reputation because people will think these are the kind of people the industry are filled with
Black guy here: Who does he think hes speaking for? It sure aint me! Atp I want him gone for disrespecting Japan, adding the racism on top of it just shows how truly different we are as people. I cant stand these people who idolize their skin color and try to tear down white and asian people. We couldn't be more different and definitely doesn't speak for me.
Exactly. You provide your voice and that's all we ask for.. "The character you voice act isn't you, You are the character you voice act" As a voice actor, turning Okarun into your identity is not your job 😂
This, I'm also sick and tired of these Hollywood/VA phonies that out of the TV go screaming around about being the "Darkened one" (because "enlightened" is WHITE) that actually gets "The Message", makes me wanna shove his opinion on paper into his mouth like Tom did with Jerry in that one episode.
I think you mean in general. It's not like the rest disappeared and is getting livelier because of the societal reverse approved by media and government.
I find it funny that these VAs keep saying "POC" but alot of the characters they are playing are just tan... nagatoro for example, has tan lines. Who is appropriating who?
I've always found it confusing that some people think a Japanese character in a Japanese anime is black and not just tan. Especially when it's shown that the character plays an outdoor sport. Side note, I spent 9 days in Japan last year and I can count the number of black people I saw on one hand and have 4 fingers left over.
For anime, a huge number of characters are just straight up Japanese too. Those characters are technically PoC, but they get lumped together with white people by these racist xenophobes.
I cannot imagine anyone else but Keith Silverstein voicing Zhongli from Genshin, and he's nowhere close to being Asian. Voice acting is based off of skills, not race, goddamn.
I lost 99% of respect for them after what they did to Vic. In some cases, if I see one of his main accusers play the english voice, I go to subtitles instantly.
He said some racist sht back in 2021 and 2022 basically saying white va's shouldn't voice poc anime characters and only black people should the dude really thinks every brown character is black honestly I'm starting to believe why people say black fragility alot it just feels like it imo and japan has every right to be mad
Look how many of them try to claim characters like Yoruichi from Bleach. She isn't black. Kubo makes black characters, and they don't look like her. Kubo is very obvious when he wants a character to be black. The nose, her hair, her lips... She looks Indian or some other South Asian group. Western blacks forget that darker skin doesn't mean it's "theirs".
@@dawnmana5876I've seen this happen with characters like Teruteru Hanamura, Yasuhiro Hagakure and Aoi Asahina in Dangan Ronpa. Sometimes people in Japan have a comparatively darker skin color compared to Tokyo. Especially if the area gets a lot of sun, or it's somewhere like Okinawa. It frustrates me because I'm black and I just wanna enjoy some anime without these morons fucking shit up! 😭
The part that especially sucks is that Dandadan actually has a really good dub, like the VAs were obviously actually given directing and context to their lines to make sure their line delivery fits every scene instead of what anime usually gets... but why do so many of the people in this industry gotta be in exclusionary cliques?
Yea I always get confused on how many people can stand watching dubs with the way some cringe af stuff gets added in. Or just total change of how a character feels...Not to even mention the general low quality of most western acting nowadays. Just makes no sense to me that these people can't even read and watch at the same time. Though I would give it to them if it just gets in the way of watching by taking up part of the screen.
Same thing is happening with Nikke too I think the last patch had I think 9 VA's not dubbing for the characters they had in the past for the Christmas event the wording used in the patch notes for them not was 'due to personal reason of certain English voice actresses'.
IKR like it’s literally called voice acting you act out a character using your voice not your face. Ngl I’ve seen poc VA’s get tired of the twitter cops calling the company behind a character that they voice a racist company cause the character is a different race than the VA. Some people fr be acting like the VA’s are acting AS a character using their actual body. Like, no. It’s a voice.
From what I gather, Japanese studios just license the anime to an international distributor. The distributor then does the work of translating and dubbing it for local languages. The Japanese studio doesn't have a say in how the studio subsequently molests their IP, and most won't care as long as they get paid, even if it's offensive as hell.
@@SpiceCh pretty much. The Japanese studios pretty much just give permission to the English studio / distributor and have trust that the studio will do their due diligence and have an understanding of the western market. Japanese studios typically just focus on the Japanese market and the overseas market is just extra for them. Although this is becoming more and more of a problem as the ideologically possessed become more prominent and as Japanese companies become more globalized/connected with the western market.
@@poeticsilence047 Ghost stories was written off, the studio literally didn't care and basically gave then carte blanche todo whatever they wanted. That's literally not comparable as it was a unique situation.
what ppl said plus the wokes gatekeep these jobs/industry to only kosher allies. So literally every VA/Localizer is from team blue and the distributor has no choice but to hire them. The elephant in the room is why there are no clauses about being 'accurate', deviating greatly from the author's intent, not 'inserting your politics' and zoomer words/phrases etc in the translations. Seems like a lazy oversight.
They are literally incapable of creation and only VERY poorly appropriate others achievements. look at Africa they still haven't figured out water storage and purification, or even invented the wheel lmao.
Why is it that everytime EN voice actor who came from either POC in general or minority group always have their social media filled with content related to representations, them reprsenting their groups and activism? This is so contrast with JP voice actors social media content where usually it's filled with retweet of their recent voice acting job such as anime, games or mascot etc or some casual tweet like their pets and their favourite meals.
That's just how westerners are now. It's not enough to do your job, you need to use your platform to "change the world" or whatever. Just look at what happened in 2020. They flip the burgers and think they have the right to decide what's on the menu. Look at the way some properties were talked about in interviews back then versus now. Back then actors would talk about the characters as different people, talking about the story and how fans will react. Nowadays actors will talk about what the role means to them, and what kind of change their work will have on the world at large.
As a black man, at first, I thought that people were just making a big deal over a small situation, and we're over reacting like crazy. But the more I looked in to it, the more I truly found out how racist this is.Its honestly bombastic how people will get mad when someone whitewashed the black panther(which IS a valid compliment btw), but would then defend an artist that's literally doing the EXACT SAME THING but backwards. The double standard is crazy💀💀💀
Am I the only one who noticed that English dubbed VAs always need to put their roles on their Twitter bio or else they'd become irrelevant, contrary to most JP seiyuu who don't need to keep reminding everyone what characters they voiced because they already have portfolios connected to their names?
@@TheRogueX Like how the popular ones really make a good living with their job, and somehow still appear to have more sense of humility than the average Twitter-dwelling, politically-motivated EN VA?
> A white or east asian character can be black-swapped whenever you feel like it because it doesn't change anything > To voice a black character, you need to be of the mysterious "black culture" where you know what a barbershop on Sunday looks like 😂
There’s little to no white people that sound black, while there’s an abundance of black people that sound white. I don’t know why but a black person can fool someone into thinking they’re white while a white person usually fails at getting people to think they’re black.
Well that "mysterious black culture" is actually afro american culture. These racist probably don't even know any other culture linked to black people. They probably don't even know there is black people in europe and africa and that it's not necessarily about rap and blm.
Super heroes, Fantasy movies, Video games and anime being mainstream was a mistake. I never thought I'd say this but I liked it better when I was hated by people for liking that stuff.
Cleveland is voiced by a white guy, samurai jack is voiced by a black guy. It's just about the art and the character. These people think they're really changing anything by their pronouns and stances. Like buddy/gal please stfu and just focus on entertainment.
The white guy from Cleveland said he was stepping down b/c he thought the character should be voiced by a black guy and blk ppl disagreed and thought he should stay and continue voicing the character. Nobody really cared he was white.
@@kaka09876543210they give EN studios full responsibility for EN stuff so unless there's concerning issues like what had happened, they are not involved directly with EN stuff
@GoodraSupremecy I don't want to offend you but meme in Indonesia are bit different then in other country. basically black people become popular meme with their pose and random text from Indonesian. some meme become so popular even the person from the meme become famous in Indonesia online community. This also become problem cause many people start backwashing(like edit them to look like burnt character or give them fucking carbon fibre in their skin then black people,) character from fiction like anime or real life politic figures to make their original meme or insult the character and their supporters. so basically the community says "hey look this va black washing and get trouble".
@@rizkasyaukany8891 it doesn't offend me (Mainly because it's already offensive.) But me and my friends already joke about this type of stuff anyway so I was just curious
"It's not about the color, it's about the culture." No, it's absolutely about color. Otherwise they should be pushing for Japanese VAs for Japanese characters, rather than trying to defend when they voice a Japanese character without knowing a damned thing about Japanese culture.
its a hilarious comment from that guy as well cuz "its not about the color" is a wild thing to say when your entire point is that "white people cant play black characters". i fail to see how could it possibly be more about color. i suppose all white people and black people are separate collective hiveminds with the same exact culture not based on where they live or where theyre born, but simply based on the color of their skin. least racist anti-racist take.
Let’s be real Japan has more problems than some English voice actors changing their pfp. I do disagree with the va’s opinion that characters should be voiced by their race, but the va’s changing their pfp was to show solidarity with the artist(who was literally receiving death threats and straight bigoted comments)
1:23 I'll never understand how some people get so pissed over this. He was clearly using pastel colours. The shade used for her skin looks like it could've been used as a highlight colour on her original model. I don't know... There's nothing wrong with seeing yourself in different fictional characters and identifying with them, but it rubs me the wrong way when someone goes, "There, I fixed them :)" and changes nothing but their appearance. With these "fixes" too, they tend to look almost... stereotypical of the group they're trying to represent. There's also the fact that people sometimes get that while yes, many anime characters are drawn pale, some of them are given darker skin tones because... not all Japanese people are milky white. The character might also get a lot of sun exposure. They see these non-pale characters and go, "Well, obviously, they must be a whole other race then." when that's not the case. I don't know, man... There's a weird thing online nowadays. The "underdogs" are so used to being victimized, they go out of their way to attack anyone who isn't a part of their group. It's become acceptable to casually say you hate men, white people, and heterosexuals because it's supposedly empowerment. Instead of wanting equality, it's become a case of "No, we're actually superior, and everyone who has the traits of our oppressors should die." making more people outside of their circle dislike them. It's just... a tiring cycle of both sides hating each other more and more for their intolerance of each other.
4:30 - This part always annoyed me. His one example was a barbershop. That's not black culture, that's east coast hood rat culture. There's a whole globe full of black people who've never been in a barber shop. But people always insist on talking about these small local experiences when talking about culture. First of all going to a barber shop is not a cultural thing. Secondly, things that are almost completely exclusive to America are not part of a race's culture. They are, at best, part of America's culture.
As a mixed black woman, this is embarrassing and Japan and people outside of Japan have every right to be annoyed with the blackwashing, self-righteousness, and hypocrisy.
The thing that annoys me the most is that there are A LOT of black characters and almost nobody give them attention. (For context i am black) I hate blackwashing so much. Espacially when there is already a black counter part for a character (*cough batwing, tiffany fox batgirl and so much more!)
That’s some clean orthography and punctuation there, queen. I know it’s a weird thing to compliment, but a lot of people simply don’t bother with their orthography nowadays, and it kinda disappoints me as a language nerd. Not to mention, I sometimes get worse treatment just because of wanting my orthography to be clean and not scuffed.
To Japan: This is not the entirety of the west discriminating against your culture. This is a loud and very entitled minority. We generally do not claim these people. Thank you and apologies.
I thinks now you're the minority here because japan has been being threatened through the industries, censoring their games, movies and animes not only outside but also in their country. Japan is being forced not only that using ww2 guiltrip thing which is disgusting
I remember my grandma telling me, "I don't care what they tell you in school, Okarun was Black" 😂 Americans only race swap one way and that's black. It's freaking weird to everyone else around the world.
3:18 IIRC this person also share some blackwash Feixiao ( a charcater based by chinese culture ) picture back then, they really cant stand a character the way they are huh especially asian character
I dont get how I, as a grown adult who works in retail, can get fired for posting a picture of me having a margarita in my day off, but these people can literally cost their company customers and they not only get to keep their jobs, they get MORE work. EDIT: apparently people think I was fired. I haven't been, but we are warned not to post pictures of us drinking, partying or anything that can be misconstrued as participating in problematic behavior online.
This has been happening in the American comic book industry since 2015. Some of them advocate violence against TH-cam critics, wish people dead, and one of them said he was glad firefighters died on 9/11 for some reason
Honestly that is what I dislike about Japanese culture, just say upright what you actually mean. Being passive aggressive just makes it look like you're hiding something.
This is why, as an actor or voice actor, it is best to keep comments to yourself and don’t get involved in social media things. Otherwise you’re going to get mobbed and that will eventually reflect on whatever media that actor is a part of.
It might be best for them to shut up, but it’s best for us to have them saying the quiet parts out loud. It helps bring the kind of awareness that can eventually put these types of people out of a job.
The problem is that social media is used for networking nowadays, so you can't just leave it. And even if you try to stay out of it, people will try to force you to say something anyway. Social media encourages people to have an opinion on everything, and as certain types say, "silence is violence", so staying out of it isn't always an option.
@@flarestorm9417true. But let’s not forget that every coin has too sides. There are pros and cons in everything. Same with social media and networking. At the end of the the day, I think what truly matters is knowing when to speak up and when to shut up. Sometimes, it’s important to speak up and sometimes, it’s better to keeps stuff to yourself so you don’t accidentally hurt others or adding fuel to the flame. Anyway, there needs to be balance in everything.
As an American, I apologize for these idiots. It takes quite a special amount of dumb to think the entirety of 'black culture' can be found in The Boondocks and The Barbershop movie series.
While it sucks for Japanese people to paint all western and English speaking people as the same as these activists, I’d rather have that than have my anime ruined.
All French speaking people surely are the same as these activists. Long history of vandalism, insulting the english, and colonizing Africa for marketing purposes. Everything they touch turns situationally averse ie woke and goes broke. Come look at all the mess up stream in the supply chain.
I find it funny how the creator of Naruto basically made a German kid the main character then says he’s Japanese because of his name, meanwhile we got Killer B, A, and Darui which I guarantee are all considered black lol. Lol Japans always been a little backwards to suit their needs/wants. Just like any country panders to their own citizens. Either way I’m an anime fan too, while also recognizing Japan ain’t exactly the most understanding of different races or cultures. Literally signs banning foreigners from restaurants, meanwhile if you did that in any half decent country that was more accepting you’d be like “Ayo wtf you kicking out Jose for?” Either way Japan is objectively quietly, yet fairly racist. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
I personally am black and i want to become a voice actor and for what i know from voice acting, its not what culture you inherently come from but if you have the voice and drive to play the character. With of course a bit of knowledge of the cultral background or just the backstory of the character in question your playing. Like there are soo many black voice actors that play white characters so i most definitely think a white person can play a black character. Edit: sorry if this is too long 😅 ehe
@@dickysatria7268Nordic kratos VA is black, guess what? Kratos isn't, but none cared because they guy has the voice of a true war God fr!!! Normal people don't care who voices who as long as the work is excellent...
At this point I would rather have every IstandwithVic dub actor be the only actors to dub anime, it may be extremely limiting but they’re good people who love fans and the source material!
Black characters: Their identity is important to them and they shouldn't be changed Asian character: we can change as much of their skin we want. Black Washing doesn't exist
I miss the old campy VA's from the 90's and early 2000's...the ones where the talent wasn't so good but you could tell the English VA's did their best. Sure we trash them now and translations were watered down due to the niche factor of anime at the time...but we never realized how good we had it back then.
think ive only ever watched pokemon and dragon ball z dubbed in english. seemed good enough. since then though i stick to the source audio, whatever language that may be.
4:22 the "speaking for black people" stuff reminds me of the South Park clip of the stereotype museum saying it like every black person goes to barber shops on sunday and combs their hair
What gets me is they swear their culture is some "MYSTICAL MAGIC UNKNOWN culture you couldnt possibly understand" 🤣🤣 Like bro, we can all open worldstar
Never understood why some black people swapped a character's race. I'm black, but anime characters are fine. Just the way they are, why don't you just. Make a character who is like you instead of race swapping. I find that shit to be so weird like. I just make my own characters to make myself comfortable. Although I wish to see more anime characters. With different ethnic backgrounds cuz I don't see it much. The only diverse manga I've seen was bleach. I'm not saying that an author should. Do it only if they are comfortable with doing it. Not being forced to do it by trying to apease. The mentally ill online toxic Twitter anime and manga fandom.
I mean i can understand why considering that Japan doesn't have too many POC living there, but otherwise i would agree.. Race swapping characters has always thrown me off since i'am so used to the original which makes the fanart look unnatural.
I think most people just do it cuz it looks cool to them. Shouldnt ever have became a big thing but racists attached themselves to it to do what they do best.
Idk if I'm selling but I took a picture of gojo and made him brown for my pfp cause I want to be like him. But I don't think the character itself should be changed. Is that different or would that still be an issue?
@dsighed7111 Well, not really, I just want to respect the author's. Work because it's kinda rude to change. The work of somebody else's to make you feel comfortable. I understand that it's hard to relate to a character because their skin is different. But shouldn't they already relate to you if their personality is like yours? I would suggest keeping the skintone as it is. But it's just an opinion, and my advice. Just do whatever you think is OK.
I really loved the dub for DanDaDan, and I think A.J. Beckles does Okarun justice, so I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt that he saw the art and never knew of the controversy of Japan finding raceswapping art, because he did end up changing his profile. Which is a good way of handling the controversy, some people would have doubled down...
I love how these ppl only see races as blacks and whites only, completely disregarding Asians existence and lumping us Asians as "Whites" just bcs we have a "fair skin"
The logic is that they are "white-adjacent", so still more "privileged" than black people, which means that everything that black people do against them is justifiable as "punching up" at "oppressors".
That's what I thought initially, until these people clarified that East Asians are white-adjacent and not considered poc. Their racism extends to Asians.
I don't usually want someone to lose their job, but I honestly hope the VA does. For too long have English Voice Actors disrespected Japan and rarely suffered any consequences for it maybe if one of them finally does they'll learn to keep their mouths shut.
Disrespecting the source material? That's like fans cancelling JK Rowling because she has certain views on how Harry Potter characters are portrayed that they disagree with. I'm sure that kind of thing doesn't happen... Right?
@@BigCrashNoSmash eh Harry Potter is its own mess. World building beyond the England setting is awful. Edit: I'm not a fan of Harry Potter by the way. Never saw appeal to it, but the world building is still a mess to an outsider to me.
Never apologize. An apology is an admission of guilt and concession accusers are correct. Stand firm like a boulder during a storm. Don't move, don't even roll over.
Ngl, the moment you started talking about the Eng VA using the art as his profile picture I said aloud “That’s the stupidest thing you could’ve done.” And by the end of the video I understood how/why he’d do that. Genuinely a bummer cause I’ve liked his work on the show, but I’m gonna stick to the Sub version from now on
Isn’t it fascinating that they can’t relate to (or fully enjoy) the characters unless they have a similar skin tone despite « loving them»? « It’s not that bad when WE do it. » How convenient. I'm glad japan is calling out their nonsense.
It’s hard to progress in a conversation and understanding when people talk indirect, leaves room open for interpretations that can be misleading or misunderstood
Dub studios need to keep their VAs on leashes so short and tight, they can't even sneeze without getting pulled back. They keep making AI look better with each petty, stupid outburst.
The dub studios are just as responsible for bastardizing Japanese IPs by inserting socio-political messaging into the scripts as the VAs are responsible for being assholes.
Everybody is sick of English voice actors. They have a half as much the professionalism and dedication of Japanese seiyuus but twice the ego and entitlement.
i want to say this to the guy, i am a white guy, i used to work in a barber shop (2 actually) 1 run by a mainly black crew and 1 run by a mainly white crew, there was NO difference besides some hairstyles, just admit your racist
apparently some people just have different kinds of hair that are different to work with. friends of mine have had to look for people that know how to handle Asian hair so I imagine it's just experience with different clientel.
@@TGPDrunknHickthis feels accurate. Black people have incredibly curly hair, it's so curly that it looks like there's no texture, but it's there. Whites and Asians have straight hair, Asians moreso than whites as some white groups also have curly hair, but not nearly as much as black hair. Latinos have straight hair, due to their mixture of Spaniard and Amerindian genes, the latter of whom being shockingly close to Asians due to both being considered part of the 'Mongoloid race'.
Which is weird and wrong to say. I am half Hispanic and Black BUT most of my "culture " was around Spanish culture. Yeah I went "Black" barbershops to cut my hair but even white people or Hispanic people would get their hair done their. They liked the work they did.
Also gets me because what most "African-American" culture is really is just them acting like Poor Whites, aka White Trash. So they're saying the apex of "their culture" is just acting like trashy White people? This brought to you by a half white/half mexican male.
I don't have much of an opinion on this, but I personally think the best voice for a character is one that fits the character, regardless of the race, age, or sex of the voice actor.
Change Miles Moral to a white character = Racist Change new captain america back to white = Racist Change snow white for a latina = No problem Change little mermaid for black character = No problem Change Black Panther to a white guy = Mega meltdown
As somebody who WANTS to be an English voice actor somewhere down the line, seeing stuff like this only has me both furious and terrified because 1: they’re the main reason why English va’s have such a horrible rep and 2: it just makes me dread that people want ai to take over the va position so soon that I fear that I won’t even get the chance to make my mark when the time in near. But if things do go well for me and I do make it up there, I promise I won’t be ANYTHING like these guys
"ich drück dir die Daumen" a german saying, meaning: i wish you good luck with that endeveur. we'll need level headed EN Va's to not lose the japanese amazing media pieces translated into english. i shudder at the thought, that stuff like "dragons dogma online" could repeat again.. (Dragons dogma online didnt get released to the west, which broke my heart..)
Same here, despite wanting to be a voice actor too (at least wanting to VA one character at some point) I've never once watched an anime or played games with English dub/VA because it just doesn't do it for me. The only game I play with EN VA so far is Reverse:1999 because the VAs actually do quite a decent job. Though the side effect is now I've seen and heard how the JP VAs control their emotions in the VActing that I can try to replicate in my own lines. We need actual aspiring and worthy people to bring EN VActing back to the scene, because these people are intentionally or unintentionally destroying it. Why don't we try and step in yeah?
No one want AI as VA dude. Be confident! I watched many AI covers, but it won't beat the OG songs. For example, AI doesn't have the same breath technique as human have. yes they can replicate it, but it won't be the same. Also people will like you as long as you kind tbh. So don't go astray amd be confident!
A lot of Americans/Westerners are right there along with you, Japan. There's only a very few English VAs left that I have any shred of respect for, and next to none of those are any of the current prominent ones.
A massive problem that english voice actors (usually the ones who aren’t actually all that good at their job) have is their ego in regards to the characters they portray. They think that THEY are the reason the character they portray is loved by fans, that THEY deserve the credit for the character’s popularity. To Hell with the countless hours of writing, storyboarding, and visual design brainstorming that goes into making an iconic character, I deserve the credit because I voiced them in the english release!
To be fair, they influence a major part of the characters personality. Any inflection, tone shift, or volume change is entirely at their discretion (and the director).
Im glad Japan is fighting back against hyprocrisy and double standards. Was so tired of JP artists getting bullied coz of slightly different shades just for those same people to praise black edits
"end up being replaced by AI" Well yeah and it could have happened in 20 years if they didnt force Japan to speedrun the replacement. RIP the few sane VA still in business ..
Luckily, I as a german guy i dont have any problems with redarted eng voice actors :x *the german dub of DanDaDan on Crunchy is really good if someone wanna give it a try X)
7:32 I can see a couple ways this could have lead to the change Marketing team said don’t fan the flames, he figured this out himself, a fan made different art and asked to have to be their pfp for some as an honour or whatever, straight up attention lapse so adhd took over and had him fawn over the other art and make it the pfp
Cristina Vee is one of the few English VAs who actually give a damn about their performance, too. She was fantastic as Velvet Crowe in Tales of Berseria.
Japan's not the only one we're all sick of these voice actors and the localizers too. Japan IMO needs to solely handle Anime and Manga without Western interference.
A repost of my comment on another similar video. I saw an argument saying "And when Brazilian Miku was a thing you guys did not complain about it". Well Its just a depiction if Miku had Brazilian culture into her character not a race change. But its twitter so its not like they are gonna think about it that way.
@@ExpertContrarian Here's a repost of my response I left in reply to a similar comment: I believe Brazilian Miku wasn't a problem because Miku's background is not that set in stone. While there is a original model mainstream media have been portraying Miku in so many different forms, to the point where they were treated literally as different entities, which created a basis of acceptance of a different form of Miku. It wasn't treated as a race change, but more of a "Alternate model" In this scenario, there was no justification to changing the race of the characters in the first place. The characters don't have any "cannon reason" to change races, other than the artist's ego. I'm sure these people wouldn't have a problem if it was Kirby who was colored black.
@@gonkakan I don’t care about your excuses. We all know Miku is Japanese. Easily destroyed your false premise. We all know why you people have a problem with black edits. You would NEVER act like this over a gender edit.
@ Where did you learn that Miki was Japanese? I was always under the impression that Miki was a "digital entity" with no real idea of race. Sure, most works are in a Japanese setting so they were technically considered Japanese, but it wasn't limited to that. For the point of the gender edit, that's actually a good point that I haven't condidered! I know you didn't ask, but I thought about it for a bit, and since you gave me an idea, I would like to share it. Ignore the following rant if not interested. I also probably wouldn't respond the same if they were tanned edits, and a possible reason race edits make me feel unconfortable is because I personally think race is more than just the looks. "I changed xxx to this skintone" feels fine. The skin looms different and you like it. cool. "I changed xxx to this race" this one to me feels like they are covering over the entirety of the original character. When race changes, experiences, values, and perspective changes. The same goes for gender, but I beleive that racial background has a stronger influence on these aspects. Putting that on a character that doesn't have a blank slate like Miku gives me the impression that they are disregarding the experience, values, and perspectives of those original characters.
It's just proof that they have no real culture. They speak a European language, wear European clothing, and use European/White American technology and inventions.
My first thought is how many stories would actually have that as an element at all. Especially stories about adventures or beating villains. When would the American barbershop come up?
He stole that part from Denzel Washington, and he took it way out of context. Denzel's point was that a director of a movie based on a specific culture should be from that culture.
I know I've said it 100 times, but I really hate it when all English VAs are lumped in the same box as people as this, despite many actively speaking out against this kind of thing. Once again, they get bad press because some other obnoxious VA decides to get involved in discrimination (which is apparently okay as long as they do it).
There are some even some go as far learn Russian. EN VA should go train their voice acting rather than involving themselves on stupid agendas no one cares about
EN VA is the most easily replaceable VA in my opinion. The world can use English. If your character is a Russian just use Russian guy to voice it. The accent or some Russian sound will be natural.
They don’t even have to do that either, bc AI voice translation technology can translate what they are saying to another language and use the original voice.
It’s so wild that people are either that dumb that they can’t see it’s a double standard or that they are purposefully gaslighting people to make their racism acceptable.
It’s black people vs Everyone else That’s not complaining just factual The double standards is it’s only Good when it’s reversed into a Person of African/AA heritage and not the other way around I wonder why that is? Maybe the answer is what we seek, if your explanation is black people self-Victimize themselves or are Racist Than that’s the Answer for you, now what remains is how do you go about changing that? Or is it another possible reasoning that needs explaining
If you discriminate against people, you make a good case for them discriminating back at you. At this rate, maybe the sociopaths who are always pulling the victim card will actually begin to experience some of the discrimination they so desperately crave.
As a member of the dubbed anime group, the fact that voice actors are basically siding against their employers isn't a good sign. I'm just hoping Ian Sinclair doesn't stick his foot in his mouth.
Ian is the goat. Let’s just hope he doesn’t do something he’ll regret. Aleks too. They are both such talented voice actors and I’d hate for their careers to be ruined by social media.
@expertarcher8542 Aleks doesn't come across someone who would do or say something stupid to jeopardize his career. Especially after he worked so hard to master the English language and his American accent. I was mind-blown when I learned he voiced Zenitzu and Thorfinn. Talk about versatility.
Reminds me of the time when the BBC cast a black actress as Anne Boleyn, a historical figure who had Scottish ancestry. Also reminds me of how every redhead character in western entertainment seems to get replaced. It's so frustrating. The behavior is downright spiteful and that's an understatement.
If any good is to come out of this, it's both these VA's getting fired for not only supporting racism but being hypocrites & incapable of respecting the creators.
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The character should be voiced by a voice actor based on the voice acting, not race.
My thoughts exactly especially because of Mike Henry had to step down as a voice of Cleveland because of this. His new va does a wonderful job but to me it's just the principle of the matter
@@elimDBZ love Azerzz
Tell that to the voice actor of appo from the Simpson's who was white when appo was Indian then
Kevin Michael Richardson has voiced characters of all races. If he only played black roles, we wouldn't have had The Batman 2004 Joker, or TMNT 2012 Shredder and many more. This english va is so stupid and hypocritical.
Should be but thanks to activists, now everything is different. But then comes the double standards that dark can play light but light cannot play dark due to culture. The VA doesn't even care how hypocritical it sounds.
Glad Japanese internet users are aware of this now.
Indeed
Johnny Somali definitely made them less tolerant against disrespectful people doing whatever they want.
I hope that they can show some fraction of their power
@ericjeon2727 especially african Americans i didn't have anything against them but everytime i see things like this i feel like im subconsciously turning racist against them a bit scary because i should know better than to lump them all together because of some clowns
bro our own people are not even aware. I mean I guess you have to be an anime fan or gamer etc for you to see these issues so I'm not surprised but on thanksgiving my Brother in law asked what was going on with me I talked about games at one point how they're starting to become trash with DEI and obviously hes not gonna understand all that. All that stuff seeps into other communities and hobbies etc thats the problem. All of this BS DEI was birthed from all this metoo crap feminist stuff. All that stuff had a good cause at one point but the next generation ruined it taking it too far.
"It's not about the color it's about the culture"
You're playing a Japanese school student, buddy
😂😂😂
Some people are just so blind to being hypocrites...
Then they should change the opening because jersey club isn’t Japanese culture
@@t-ro6176 sure don't ever watch another anime. Dont ever eat sushi, dont drive a Japanese car either. You see how that doesn't work?
He is just passing a quote by Denzel Washington as if it is his own opinion. It's not even applicable here. Dude is turning an issue of respecting source material into race stuff.
Something that bothers me is when they call tanned people black.
im black (actual brown skin) and I don’t get it either
Same here.
They do it when it works in their favour, but when it doesn't they'll call them white.
At an old job of mine, someone declared I need to check my privilege and 'know my place' while in their team, because they're "more diverse" than my last team and unlike my last team they're not all white. I replied "What? Most my last team were Asian?" and they replied "Yeah!? ... WHITE."
Later on I was told they gathered en-masse with their inner circle and were discussing about me: "Hey, lets say he said THIS and we can cancel him for sure!"
Quite literally plotting lies to get me fired just so they could get up on the whole 'Cancel Culture' high.
The people who have these double standards pointed out in the video, are generally the same toxic crowd.
Southeast asian here, i also hate when they paint us SEAbros as only dark tan when we literally come in SO MANY colors from the lightest to the darkest 😂
*cough*Team Aqua's redesigns*cough*
TBH I blame the localization philosophy on this, since it's hard to find human Pokemon characters with their original Japanese names.
as a afro latino he shouldnt be voicing a clearly asian character BY HIS OWN WORDS
as AN...
@@maggiethedog9113Don’t correct people unless you do it correctly. It’s insufferable.
@@Hyoungje I DID you poor little spinster.
@ @ maggiethedog9113 No you did not. By the way, your latest reply still lacks proper grammar. Please go back to grammar school if you are going to be a part of the self appointed grammar police.
@@Hyoungje HAHAHAHAAHHHAAHA SPINSTER
Can Anime be a niche thing again? The mainstream is a pain in the ass.
Agreed, oh my goodness, I agree lol
Sadly, I don't think it works like that. Can't go back to being niche when you've become mainstream, at least not intentionally
@@christophermonteith2774
Yeah, I don’t think it can.
I will say, though I absolutely hate the fact that the people that we have to trust to bring things over are some of the worst. Localizers a.k.a. lolcowsizers have made things an absolute joke and along with companies like Crunchyroll it’s all become a joke of nepotism and favoritism. There was a time when it was about talent, not about representation or other nonsense political talking points. They’ve made everything worse because they have to make everything about either identity politics or just regular politics.
Going mainstream is like openning pandora's box. It will take a lot of evil to go through until you find the hope at the bottom to close it.
We Warhammer 40k fans understand the sentiment
I feel sorry to those English VA who are actually in it to play a character not talk about some weird agenda being lump together with those guys
Yeah, Vic Mignogna, Johnny Yong Bosch & Catherine Taber (off the top of my head, there are others I can't recall right now) are actually pretty chill
I know people personally who have worked hard and genuinely deserve a chance at making it. But no, THESE are the people leading industry...
@@LordKraken3 Matthew Mercer, Steve Blum, Kari Wahlgren, Bryce Papenbrook, Aleks Le, Nazeeh Tarsha, Alejandro Saab, couple more I can list off
Like Turbo Granny in Dandadan is Rita Replusa from Power Rangers. She just seems to be enjoying life using her Rita voice to swear up a storm at people.
Too late to feel bad, remove english va's from everything
Not just Japan, we are all upset at English voice actors.
I agree, Turtle Guy
been. ive been upset and english VA's and localizations of scripts for exceedingly long.
Can confirm
Yea and I kinda hate that these guys are ruining other English VA reputation because people will think these are the kind of people the industry are filled with
the only good dub anime is dilicous indungeon only 1
"It's not about color, it's about culture"
So now POC Americans are experts in Japanese Culture and Anime? Interesting.
Black guy here:
Who does he think hes speaking for? It sure aint me! Atp I want him gone for disrespecting Japan, adding the racism on top of it just shows how truly different we are as people. I cant stand these people who idolize their skin color and try to tear down white and asian people. We couldn't be more different and definitely doesn't speak for me.
Exactly.
You provide your voice and that's all we ask for..
"The character you voice act isn't you, You are the character you voice act"
As a voice actor, turning Okarun into your identity is not your job 😂
You're sane, he's too far gone and woke
The snow bunnies and asian bbc slayers ain’t letting you hit bro 😂
This, I'm also sick and tired of these Hollywood/VA phonies that out of the TV go screaming around about being the "Darkened one" (because "enlightened" is WHITE) that actually gets "The Message", makes me wanna shove his opinion on paper into his mouth like Tom did with Jerry in that one episode.
I love that Japanese is figuring it out. I am so tired of racism towards Asians and whites
as an Asian I am sick of the American woke. They are the real racist and Nazis they accuse everybody of.
Apparently some people can’t fathom the fact that people can be racist towards whites and I say this as an Asian
I think you mean in general. It's not like the rest disappeared and is getting livelier because of the societal reverse approved by media and government.
White people can't experience racism
So am I
Japan's slowly, but surely retaliating.
What once was will always be, Weimar problems will always result in Weimar solutions.
Let’s hope Japan continues to grow stronger and keep fighting back!
Subarashii
Took them too long. While it is good to see them finally reacting, the time they took has given them a disadvantage.
I just hope they dont think its all of us. The world needs these ppl to know they aren't welcome
I find it funny that these VAs keep saying "POC" but alot of the characters they are playing are just tan... nagatoro for example, has tan lines. Who is appropriating who?
Western leftists: cultural appropriation is bad, except when we do it.
I've always found it confusing that some people think a Japanese character in a Japanese anime is black and not just tan. Especially when it's shown that the character plays an outdoor sport.
Side note, I spent 9 days in Japan last year and I can count the number of black people I saw on one hand and have 4 fingers left over.
Tanned or southeast asians don't exist in their vocabulary they'll label them black instead or
For anime, a huge number of characters are just straight up Japanese too. Those characters are technically PoC, but they get lumped together with white people by these racist xenophobes.
yeah she's literally a japanese girl that's tan.
I cannot imagine anyone else but Keith Silverstein voicing Zhongli from Genshin, and he's nowhere close to being Asian. Voice acting is based off of skills, not race, goddamn.
As an English dub lover,this is why i can't have nice things towards them
Not all,but the bad apples are way louder
I lost 99% of respect for them after what they did to Vic.
In some cases, if I see one of his main accusers play the english voice, I go to subtitles instantly.
Same
He said some racist sht back in 2021 and 2022 basically saying white va's shouldn't voice poc anime characters and only black people should the dude really thinks every brown character is black honestly I'm starting to believe why people say black fragility alot it just feels like it imo and japan has every right to be mad
People with the "stay in your lane" mindset are proven hypocrites. People are starting to wisen up to that.
They make it so easy to want to be an uncle ruckus type of person
Didn't ProZD push for this, only for it to swing back at him and prevent him from getting a bunch of roles?
Look how many of them try to claim characters like Yoruichi from Bleach. She isn't black. Kubo makes black characters, and they don't look like her. Kubo is very obvious when he wants a character to be black. The nose, her hair, her lips... She looks Indian or some other South Asian group. Western blacks forget that darker skin doesn't mean it's "theirs".
@@dawnmana5876I've seen this happen with characters like Teruteru Hanamura, Yasuhiro Hagakure and Aoi Asahina in Dangan Ronpa.
Sometimes people in Japan have a comparatively darker skin color compared to Tokyo. Especially if the area gets a lot of sun, or it's somewhere like Okinawa.
It frustrates me because I'm black and I just wanna enjoy some anime without these morons fucking shit up! 😭
Can't blame them, considering what English VAs have been doing for the past few years with Japanese IPs.
Who even use English Dub?
@Wikarian99PL Aside from Crunchroll users, i dunno
@@Wikarian99PLpeople how are bad at reading or just want to listen without reading while doing something else
The part that especially sucks is that Dandadan actually has a really good dub, like the VAs were obviously actually given directing and context to their lines to make sure their line delivery fits every scene instead of what anime usually gets... but why do so many of the people in this industry gotta be in exclusionary cliques?
Yea I always get confused on how many people can stand watching dubs with the way some cringe af stuff gets added in.
Or just total change of how a character feels...Not to even mention the general low quality of most western acting nowadays.
Just makes no sense to me that these people can't even read and watch at the same time.
Though I would give it to them if it just gets in the way of watching by taking up part of the screen.
SO THAT'S why girls frontline has no english translators.
i don't blame em then.
Same thing is happening with Nikke too I think the last patch had I think 9 VA's not dubbing for the characters they had in the past for the Christmas event the wording used in the patch notes for them not was 'due to personal reason of certain English voice actresses'.
Yeah
Im for it.. Loving the game. Nemesis is my favourit... please let me be your tripod!
@@117Haseo Same goes with Snowbreak and Aether Gazer
@@117Haseo Good I dont want these voice actors that hate the target audience to get even one cent.
Reminder again, VA mean Voice Actor/Actress.
You are "Acting" using your "Voice".
IKR like it’s literally called voice acting you act out a character using your voice not your face. Ngl I’ve seen poc VA’s get tired of the twitter cops calling the company behind a character that they voice a racist company cause the character is a different race than the VA. Some people fr be acting like the VA’s are acting AS a character using their actual body. Like, no. It’s a voice.
Wait hold on. Why are non-Japanese people voicing Japanese characters? I thought the voice actor had to represent the character to these people?
Why japanese studios even allow these VA to do their job baffles me when there are so many people on the internet that could replace them easily
From what I gather, Japanese studios just license the anime to an international distributor. The distributor then does the work of translating and dubbing it for local languages. The Japanese studio doesn't have a say in how the studio subsequently molests their IP, and most won't care as long as they get paid, even if it's offensive as hell.
@@SpiceCh though not offensive, I liked how they completely changed Ghost Stories in the dub. Basically made it into a mass produced Abridge anime.
@@SpiceCh pretty much. The Japanese studios pretty much just give permission to the English studio / distributor and have trust that the studio will do their due diligence and have an understanding of the western market. Japanese studios typically just focus on the Japanese market and the overseas market is just extra for them.
Although this is becoming more and more of a problem as the ideologically possessed become more prominent and as Japanese companies become more globalized/connected with the western market.
@@poeticsilence047 Ghost stories was written off, the studio literally didn't care and basically gave then carte blanche todo whatever they wanted.
That's literally not comparable as it was a unique situation.
what ppl said plus the wokes gatekeep these jobs/industry to only kosher allies. So literally every VA/Localizer is from team blue and the distributor has no choice but to hire them. The elephant in the room is why there are no clauses about being 'accurate', deviating greatly from the author's intent, not 'inserting your politics' and zoomer words/phrases etc in the translations. Seems like a lazy oversight.
They fight against "cultural appropriation" by culturally appropriating japanese works.
Make that make sense.
Simple . They are a cult. Cults dont make sence.
Yeah @@shadowkhan422
They are literally incapable of creation and only VERY poorly appropriate others achievements. look at Africa they still haven't figured out water storage and purification, or even invented the wheel lmao.
They have no culture
Imagine them making their own shit. Well they do but it usually sucks so bad no one wants it
Why is it that everytime EN voice actor who came from either POC in general or minority group always have their social media filled with content related to representations, them reprsenting their groups and activism?
This is so contrast with JP voice actors social media content where usually it's filled with retweet of their recent voice acting job such as anime, games or mascot etc or some casual tweet like their pets and their favourite meals.
Because they live off of tokenizing themselves and not from their work; they don't sell you talent, they sell you virtue points.
Because they don't care about their work. Only grifting
Because they worked very hard to become DEI hires and are very proud of that.
That's just how westerners are now. It's not enough to do your job, you need to use your platform to "change the world" or whatever. Just look at what happened in 2020. They flip the burgers and think they have the right to decide what's on the menu. Look at the way some properties were talked about in interviews back then versus now. Back then actors would talk about the characters as different people, talking about the story and how fans will react. Nowadays actors will talk about what the role means to them, and what kind of change their work will have on the world at large.
@@Asertix357 how do you unlearn that?
As a black man, at first, I thought that people were just making a big deal over a small situation, and we're over reacting like crazy. But the more I looked in to it, the more I truly found out how racist this is.Its honestly bombastic how people will get mad when someone whitewashed the black panther(which IS a valid compliment btw), but would then defend an artist that's literally doing the EXACT SAME THING but backwards. The double standard is crazy💀💀💀
I think I know which black panther art you're talking about. It's really good!
Am I the only one who noticed that English dubbed VAs always need to put their roles on their Twitter bio or else they'd become irrelevant, contrary to most JP seiyuu who don't need to keep reminding everyone what characters they voiced because they already have portfolios connected to their names?
Are you the only one who doesn't know that voice acting in Japan is treated completely differently than voice acting in the West?
@@TheRogueX Like how the popular ones really make a good living with their job, and somehow still appear to have more sense of humility than the average Twitter-dwelling, politically-motivated EN VA?
this. 1000% @@TheRogueX
> A white or east asian character can be black-swapped whenever you feel like it because it doesn't change anything
> To voice a black character, you need to be of the mysterious "black culture" where you know what a barbershop on Sunday looks like
😂
There’s little to no white people that sound black, while there’s an abundance of black people that sound white.
I don’t know why but a black person can fool someone into thinking they’re white while a white person usually fails at getting people to think they’re black.
@coronavirus553 I knew I would find you race hypocrites in these comments!
why blacks so obsessed with barbershops when 90% of the chicks dont even have hair and the men all have filthy looking mops?
Well that "mysterious black culture" is actually afro american culture. These racist probably don't even know any other culture linked to black people. They probably don't even know there is black people in europe and africa and that it's not necessarily about rap and blm.
I’m black and I have never been to a barbershop in my life!
This is what makes me miss when anime wasn’t so mainstream *sigh*
Video games too.
Or any media
Oh yes, I feel the same. It's all too mainstream now.
Super heroes, Fantasy movies, Video games and anime being mainstream was a mistake. I never thought I'd say this but I liked it better when I was hated by people for liking that stuff.
Why I'm on the fence for Ultraman to be the only Tokusatsu metaseries known globally.
The hypocrisy is astounding.
Yeah fr, attacking a random 16 year old cause some random bad actors attacked someone else. And open racism. Such heroes
@VoltReturns Y'all expect others to be calm after attcking them all the time?
@@VoltReturns where's the hypocrisy in your point?
Cleveland is voiced by a white guy, samurai jack is voiced by a black guy. It's just about the art and the character. These people think they're really changing anything by their pronouns and stances. Like buddy/gal please stfu and just focus on entertainment.
The white guy from Cleveland said he was stepping down b/c he thought the character should be voiced by a black guy and blk ppl disagreed and thought he should stay and continue voicing the character. Nobody really cared he was white.
THE VA FOR FEIXIAO AGAIN?! THIS IS THE SECOND TIME-
Why hoyo don't use their fans to voice their game characters is mystery to me. I bet there are lots of interest from them to apply.
@@kaka09876543210they give EN studios full responsibility for EN stuff so unless there's concerning issues like what had happened, they are not involved directly with EN stuff
Ah the female va. The infamous blackwashing fexiao. Become a meme in hsr community in Indonesia
Ok I knew about the black washing
What's this about the meme
As a black man myself this sounds hilarious
@GoodraSupremecy I don't want to offend you but meme in Indonesia are bit different then in other country. basically black people become popular meme with their pose and random text from Indonesian. some meme become so popular even the person from the meme become famous in Indonesia online community. This also become problem cause many people start backwashing(like edit them to look like burnt character or give them fucking carbon fibre in their skin then black people,) character from fiction like anime or real life politic figures to make their original meme or insult the character and their supporters. so basically the community says "hey look this va black washing and get trouble".
Yea Feixiao a chinese woman lmao
@@rizkasyaukany8891 it doesn't offend me
(Mainly because it's already offensive.)
But me and my friends already joke about this type of stuff anyway so I was just curious
She learned nothing. The whole En dub industry needs to be cleaned out.
"It's not about the color, it's about the culture."
No, it's absolutely about color. Otherwise they should be pushing for Japanese VAs for Japanese characters, rather than trying to defend when they voice a Japanese character without knowing a damned thing about Japanese culture.
Or for white VAs for white characters.
Or an Alien VA for alien characters
How would you get an alien? Idk that's a you problem
@@HellCromeEOr furry characters, how do you find it? 😅
its a hilarious comment from that guy as well cuz "its not about the color" is a wild thing to say when your entire point is that "white people cant play black characters". i fail to see how could it possibly be more about color. i suppose all white people and black people are separate collective hiveminds with the same exact culture not based on where they live or where theyre born, but simply based on the color of their skin. least racist anti-racist take.
@@ReinzTheKing bring someone's pet dog to the set maybe? 😂
I love the Japanese more with each passing day.
It's inspiring to see, truly. A nation of the quiet folk who never get upset are now raising hell in all directions.
I'm here for it.
I love one more, and hate another more each day..
Funny how these a-holes are creating the very thing they 'claim' to be fighting against.
@@Aaron-qe9ms"They" always had.
Let’s be real Japan has more problems than some English voice actors changing their pfp. I do disagree with the va’s opinion that characters should be voiced by their race, but the va’s changing their pfp was to show solidarity with the artist(who was literally receiving death threats and straight bigoted comments)
@@viribpie 1:00 - 1:48 Clearly never watched the video!
1:23 I'll never understand how some people get so pissed over this. He was clearly using pastel colours. The shade used for her skin looks like it could've been used as a highlight colour on her original model. I don't know... There's nothing wrong with seeing yourself in different fictional characters and identifying with them, but it rubs me the wrong way when someone goes, "There, I fixed them :)" and changes nothing but their appearance. With these "fixes" too, they tend to look almost... stereotypical of the group they're trying to represent.
There's also the fact that people sometimes get that while yes, many anime characters are drawn pale, some of them are given darker skin tones because... not all Japanese people are milky white. The character might also get a lot of sun exposure. They see these non-pale characters and go, "Well, obviously, they must be a whole other race then." when that's not the case.
I don't know, man... There's a weird thing online nowadays. The "underdogs" are so used to being victimized, they go out of their way to attack anyone who isn't a part of their group. It's become acceptable to casually say you hate men, white people, and heterosexuals because it's supposedly empowerment. Instead of wanting equality, it's become a case of "No, we're actually superior, and everyone who has the traits of our oppressors should die." making more people outside of their circle dislike them. It's just... a tiring cycle of both sides hating each other more and more for their intolerance of each other.
4:30 - This part always annoyed me. His one example was a barbershop. That's not black culture, that's east coast hood rat culture. There's a whole globe full of black people who've never been in a barber shop. But people always insist on talking about these small local experiences when talking about culture. First of all going to a barber shop is not a cultural thing. Secondly, things that are almost completely exclusive to America are not part of a race's culture. They are, at best, part of America's culture.
The VA disqualified himself from every work on anything coming out of Japan ever again.
Good ridance
😈
He's pretty bad at it anyway, no loss.
Sadly this industry is deeply nepotistic and close knit. The wokes only let in their woke friends. It needs a full reboot.
@@Doppier gotta say it fire them all and whatch OmU
As a mixed black woman, this is embarrassing and Japan and people outside of Japan have every right to be annoyed with the blackwashing, self-righteousness, and hypocrisy.
The thing that annoys me the most is that there are A LOT of black characters and almost nobody give them attention. (For context i am black) I hate blackwashing so much. Espacially when there is already a black counter part for a character (*cough batwing, tiffany fox batgirl and so much more!)
That’s some clean orthography and punctuation there, queen.
I know it’s a weird thing to compliment, but a lot of people simply don’t bother with their orthography nowadays, and it kinda disappoints me as a language nerd. Not to mention, I sometimes get worse treatment just because of wanting my orthography to be clean and not scuffed.
black washing doesnt even exist, we can talk if you want btw.
blackwashing doesnt exist. whitewashing is done out of racism and nothing more.
But they dont have the right to attack a random girl
To Japan: This is not the entirety of the west discriminating against your culture. This is a loud and very entitled minority. We generally do not claim these people. Thank you and apologies.
Speak the facts, dude.
I thinks now you're the minority here because japan has been being threatened through the industries, censoring their games, movies and animes not only outside but also in their country. Japan is being forced not only that using ww2 guiltrip thing which is disgusting
That's an issue resulting from the agendas of corporations and governments, not the vast majority of anime fans
Don't apologize. You didn't do anything
Yeah? What about the whole credit card situation?
I remember my grandma telling me, "I don't care what they tell you in school, Okarun was Black" 😂 Americans only race swap one way and that's black. It's freaking weird to everyone else around the world.
3:18 IIRC this person also share some blackwash Feixiao ( a charcater based by chinese culture ) picture back then, they really cant stand a character the way they are huh especially asian character
I dont get how I, as a grown adult who works in retail, can get fired for posting a picture of me having a margarita in my day off, but these people can literally cost their company customers and they not only get to keep their jobs, they get MORE work.
EDIT: apparently people think I was fired. I haven't been, but we are warned not to post pictures of us drinking, partying or anything that can be misconstrued as participating in problematic behavior online.
It's because its cliques.
Nothing professional or business oriented. It's just cliques and highschool bs.
Communists
This has been happening in the American comic book industry since 2015. Some of them advocate violence against TH-cam critics, wish people dead, and one of them said he was glad firefighters died on 9/11 for some reason
Woke nepotism, in a nutshell. If they're on the same team, they don't care.
Failing upward?
Im all for Japanese people no longer being passive aggressive and just being up front with how they feel.
Honestly that is what I dislike about Japanese culture, just say upright what you actually mean. Being passive aggressive just makes it look like you're hiding something.
Japanese people are like Ned Flanders, they’re mostly chill, but if you mess with them… they snap.
@@strategicperson95 Let me tell you, Japan is very upright online
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This is why, as an actor or voice actor, it is best to keep comments to yourself and don’t get involved in social media things. Otherwise you’re going to get mobbed and that will eventually reflect on whatever media that actor is a part of.
It might be best for them to shut up, but it’s best for us to have them saying the quiet parts out loud. It helps bring the kind of awareness that can eventually put these types of people out of a job.
It reflects badly not only on them, but the company as well.
The problem is that social media is used for networking nowadays, so you can't just leave it. And even if you try to stay out of it, people will try to force you to say something anyway. Social media encourages people to have an opinion on everything, and as certain types say, "silence is violence", so staying out of it isn't always an option.
@flarestorm9417 Yeah, and look how it's going for them.
Many have destroyed their brand.
@@flarestorm9417true. But let’s not forget that every coin has too sides. There are pros and cons in everything. Same with social media and networking. At the end of the the day, I think what truly matters is knowing when to speak up and when to shut up. Sometimes, it’s important to speak up and sometimes, it’s better to keeps stuff to yourself so you don’t accidentally hurt others or adding fuel to the flame. Anyway, there needs to be balance in everything.
As an American, I apologize for these idiots. It takes quite a special amount of dumb to think the entirety of 'black culture' can be found in The Boondocks and The Barbershop movie series.
Finally Japan notice how many Johnny Somalians-type in the anime industry.
😂😂😂
While it sucks for Japanese people to paint all western and English speaking people as the same as these activists, I’d rather have that than have my anime ruined.
All French speaking people surely are the same as these activists. Long history of vandalism, insulting the english, and colonizing Africa for marketing purposes. Everything they touch turns situationally averse ie woke and goes broke. Come look at all the mess up stream in the supply chain.
You know it's bad when Darth Vader doesn't like it💀
@@grindoryY'know, Darth Vader loves his anime
@@grindoryDon't make him force choke these degens western twitter users
I find it funny how the creator of Naruto basically made a German kid the main character then says he’s Japanese because of his name, meanwhile we got Killer B, A, and Darui which I guarantee are all considered black lol. Lol Japans always been a little backwards to suit their needs/wants. Just like any country panders to their own citizens. Either way I’m an anime fan too, while also recognizing Japan ain’t exactly the most understanding of different races or cultures. Literally signs banning foreigners from restaurants, meanwhile if you did that in any half decent country that was more accepting you’d be like “Ayo wtf you kicking out Jose for?” Either way Japan is objectively quietly, yet fairly racist. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
I personally am black and i want to become a voice actor and for what i know from voice acting, its not what culture you inherently come from but if you have the voice and drive to play the character.
With of course a bit of knowledge of the cultral background or just the backstory of the character in question your playing.
Like there are soo many black voice actors that play white characters so i most definitely think a white person can play a black character.
Edit: sorry if this is too long 😅 ehe
Samurai Jack VA is black iirc
@@dickysatria7268 but most of the younger VAs are as dumb as bricks though
If superhuman Era gets an anime, I hope White Hat's dub is black just for the hilarious contrast
@@dickysatria7268 Which is ironic since Phil Lamarr has the "stay in your lane" mentality when it comes to voice acting.
@@dickysatria7268Nordic kratos VA is black, guess what? Kratos isn't, but none cared because they guy has the voice of a true war God fr!!!
Normal people don't care who voices who as long as the work is excellent...
At this point I would rather have every IstandwithVic dub actor be the only actors to dub anime, it may be extremely limiting but they’re good people who love fans and the source material!
At least ISWV VAs have more common sense.
Another issue is these big name VAs are basically pulling the ladder up with them, making it impossible for new blood to shine.
I miss Vic he wasn’t so mean
@simsgirlgem Meanwhile, we're still stick with the lying harpies.
What a throwback!! I was introduced to this channel because of that whole fiasco.
Black characters: Their identity is important to them and they shouldn't be changed
Asian character: we can change as much of their skin we want. Black Washing doesn't exist
Now I understand the standard of sub over dub. Now I must agree because it’s always: _Rules for thee, not for me!_
I miss the old campy VA's from the 90's and early 2000's...the ones where the talent wasn't so good but you could tell the English VA's did their best. Sure we trash them now and translations were watered down due to the niche factor of anime at the time...but we never realized how good we had it back then.
think ive only ever watched pokemon and dragon ball z dubbed in english. seemed good enough. since then though i stick to the source audio, whatever language that may be.
No it was still bad. The more I learn japanese the more I denounce those memories built on lies
Yeah I’d rather have bad voice acting from people who genuinely like the material than…whatever tf this is
4:22 the "speaking for black people" stuff reminds me of the South Park clip of the stereotype museum
saying it like every black person goes to barber shops on sunday and combs their hair
What gets me is they swear their culture is some "MYSTICAL MAGIC UNKNOWN culture you couldnt possibly understand" 🤣🤣 Like bro, we can all open worldstar
“Black culture” is just trendy African American culture.
There is no universal black culture which is the sad thing about it.
Never understood why some black people swapped a character's race. I'm black, but anime characters are fine. Just the way they are, why don't you just. Make a character who is like you instead of race swapping. I find that shit to be so weird like. I just make my own characters to make myself comfortable. Although I wish to see more anime characters. With different ethnic backgrounds cuz I don't see it much. The only diverse manga I've seen was bleach. I'm not saying that an author should. Do it only if they are comfortable with doing it. Not being forced to do it by trying to apease. The mentally ill online toxic Twitter anime and manga fandom.
I mean i can understand why considering that Japan doesn't have too many POC living there, but otherwise i would agree..
Race swapping characters has always thrown me off since i'am so used to the original which makes the fanart look unnatural.
I think most people just do it cuz it looks cool to them. Shouldnt ever have became a big thing but racists attached themselves to it to do what they do best.
Black lagoon has a cool black guy, one punch man does... But he is more black face in universe... Haha
Idk if I'm selling but I took a picture of gojo and made him brown for my pfp cause I want to be like him. But I don't think the character itself should be changed. Is that different or would that still be an issue?
@dsighed7111 Well, not really, I just want to respect the author's. Work because it's kinda rude to change. The work of somebody else's to make you feel comfortable. I understand that it's hard to relate to a character because their skin is different. But shouldn't they already relate to you if their personality is like yours? I would suggest keeping the skintone as it is. But it's just an opinion, and my advice. Just do whatever you think is OK.
Germany stops refugee admission today. ❤
What does it have to do with this though?
I really loved the dub for DanDaDan, and I think A.J. Beckles does Okarun justice, so I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt that he saw the art and never knew of the controversy of Japan finding raceswapping art, because he did end up changing his profile.
Which is a good way of handling the controversy, some people would have doubled down...
"Shouldn't voice POC" Asians are POC as well they're not white so by his logic why is he voicing a Japanese Highschooler then? 😂
Right. By his logic, only Japanese people should be allowed to perform in English dubs
I love how these ppl only see races as blacks and whites only, completely disregarding Asians existence and lumping us Asians as "Whites" just bcs we have a "fair skin"
The logic is that they are "white-adjacent", so still more "privileged" than black people, which means that everything that black people do against them is justifiable as "punching up" at "oppressors".
That's what I thought initially, until these people clarified that East Asians are white-adjacent and not considered poc. Their racism extends to Asians.
@@koven-thecovenantofmerakya5060 Don't forget Middle Easterns, Latinos, Native Americans, Pacific Islanders, and etc. 😂
Can't blame them, we are also had enough of those en voice actors
I don't usually want someone to lose their job, but I honestly hope the VA does. For too long have English Voice Actors disrespected Japan and rarely suffered any consequences for it maybe if one of them finally does they'll learn to keep their mouths shut.
Disrespecting the source material? That's like fans cancelling JK Rowling because she has certain views on how Harry Potter characters are portrayed that they disagree with. I'm sure that kind of thing doesn't happen... Right?
@@BigCrashNoSmash eh Harry Potter is its own mess.
World building beyond the England setting is awful.
Edit: I'm not a fan of Harry Potter by the way. Never saw appeal to it, but the world building is still a mess to an outsider to me.
Harry Potter is fire y’all tripping (Never watched or Read a Harry Potter book in my life)
PS: But I played the Hogwarts Game 🐧
Never apologize. An apology is an admission of guilt and concession accusers are correct. Stand firm like a boulder during a storm. Don't move, don't even roll over.
Ngl, the moment you started talking about the Eng VA using the art as his profile picture I said aloud “That’s the stupidest thing you could’ve done.” And by the end of the video I understood how/why he’d do that. Genuinely a bummer cause I’ve liked his work on the show, but I’m gonna stick to the Sub version from now on
Isn’t it fascinating that they can’t relate to (or fully enjoy) the characters unless they have a similar skin tone despite « loving them»?
« It’s not that bad when WE do it. »
How convenient.
I'm glad japan is calling out their nonsense.
Yeah, maybe he shouldn't be voicing a character that doesn't look like him if he has a problem like that
Who is they
@No-kw9wuExactly so scared to say what they mean 🙄
It’s hard to progress in a conversation and understanding when people talk indirect, leaves room open for interpretations that can be misleading or misunderstood
Dub studios need to keep their VAs on leashes so short and tight, they can't even sneeze without getting pulled back.
They keep making AI look better with each petty, stupid outburst.
The dub studios are just as responsible for bastardizing Japanese IPs by inserting socio-political messaging into the scripts as the VAs are responsible for being assholes.
I swear English va's (especially American ones) tend to be the most narcissistic, annoying and egotistical people in the voice acting world.
The studios approve of what their VA are doing though.
You do realize that AI could just be used for the original right?
I work in retail. I posted anything like what these VAs did, I'd be fired in a heartbeat.
Everybody is sick of English voice actors. They have a half as much the professionalism and dedication of Japanese seiyuus but twice the ego and entitlement.
That’s just a minority of them
There are only few of them, stop acting like it’s the entire industry. Just ignore them, they will go away
and on top of that, most of them sound like overacted shit
I'm sick of anime fandom. A bunch of ignorant weebs.
@@TheRogueX Then get out!
Mihoyo should be checking twitter bios before hiring english VAs
Aj stole a denzel washington qoute on that second tweet and didn't credit him what an intellectual
i want to say this to the guy, i am a white guy, i used to work in a barber shop (2 actually) 1 run by a mainly black crew and 1 run by a mainly white crew, there was NO difference besides some hairstyles, just admit your racist
As other people pointed out . If its about culture , why is he voicing a Japanese character?
apparently some people just have different kinds of hair that are different to work with. friends of mine have had to look for people that know how to handle Asian hair so I imagine it's just experience with different clientel.
@@TGPDrunknHickthis feels accurate. Black people have incredibly curly hair, it's so curly that it looks like there's no texture, but it's there. Whites and Asians have straight hair, Asians moreso than whites as some white groups also have curly hair, but not nearly as much as black hair. Latinos have straight hair, due to their mixture of Spaniard and Amerindian genes, the latter of whom being shockingly close to Asians due to both being considered part of the 'Mongoloid race'.
Who
"It's not a color, it's a culture" ahhh so charlie kirk is right now?
Denzel Washington said that same thing in an Interview. AJ dude over there tryin to act smart
Which is weird and wrong to say. I am half Hispanic and Black BUT most of my "culture " was around Spanish culture. Yeah I went "Black" barbershops to cut my hair but even white people or Hispanic people would get their hair done their. They liked the work they did.
Yes. Black is a race or ethnicity, not a culture. It's as diverse as the white people in America.
@@poeticsilence047 my barber shop is owned and run by the lebanese. they cut good hair, i wont let that stop me going there.
Also gets me because what most "African-American" culture is really is just them acting like Poor Whites, aka White Trash.
So they're saying the apex of "their culture" is just acting like trashy White people?
This brought to you by a half white/half mexican male.
I don't have much of an opinion on this, but I personally think the best voice for a character is one that fits the character, regardless of the race, age, or sex of the voice actor.
Yeah, doraemon and luffy JP VAs are women
This is really all it should come down to. Instead it just lead to racism everywhere
Change Miles Moral to a white character = Racist
Change new captain america back to white = Racist
Change snow white for a latina = No problem
Change little mermaid for black character = No problem
Change Black Panther to a white guy = Mega meltdown
They never changed captain america to a black person, that’s a completely different guy who just took up the mantel of captain America in the lore.
@@coronavirus553 It's the same thing. Stop lying.
@bigtechisbigbrother8690 no it isn't stop lying
As somebody who WANTS to be an English voice actor somewhere down the line, seeing stuff like this only has me both furious and terrified because 1: they’re the main reason why English va’s have such a horrible rep and 2: it just makes me dread that people want ai to take over the va position so soon that I fear that I won’t even get the chance to make my mark when the time in near.
But if things do go well for me and I do make it up there, I promise I won’t be ANYTHING like these guys
"ich drück dir die Daumen" a german saying, meaning: i wish you good luck with that endeveur.
we'll need level headed EN Va's to not lose the japanese amazing media pieces translated into english.
i shudder at the thought, that stuff like "dragons dogma online" could repeat again.. (Dragons dogma online didnt get released to the west, which broke my heart..)
Same here, despite wanting to be a voice actor too (at least wanting to VA one character at some point) I've never once watched an anime or played games with English dub/VA because it just doesn't do it for me. The only game I play with EN VA so far is Reverse:1999 because the VAs actually do quite a decent job. Though the side effect is now I've seen and heard how the JP VAs control their emotions in the VActing that I can try to replicate in my own lines.
We need actual aspiring and worthy people to bring EN VActing back to the scene, because these people are intentionally or unintentionally destroying it. Why don't we try and step in yeah?
Good. 🫂
No one want AI as VA dude. Be confident! I watched many AI covers, but it won't beat the OG songs. For example, AI doesn't have the same breath technique as human have. yes they can replicate it, but it won't be the same. Also people will like you as long as you kind tbh. So don't go astray amd be confident!
Go save the VA scene my guy!
A lot of Americans/Westerners are right there along with you, Japan. There's only a very few English VAs left that I have any shred of respect for, and next to none of those are any of the current prominent ones.
A massive problem that english voice actors (usually the ones who aren’t actually all that good at their job) have is their ego in regards to the characters they portray. They think that THEY are the reason the character they portray is loved by fans, that THEY deserve the credit for the character’s popularity. To Hell with the countless hours of writing, storyboarding, and visual design brainstorming that goes into making an iconic character, I deserve the credit because I voiced them in the english release!
To be fair, they influence a major part of the characters personality. Any inflection, tone shift, or volume change is entirely at their discretion (and the director).
Reminds me of that Bayonetta 3 drama
Gatekeeping black culture from others while allowing lighter-skinned characters to be swapped with black actors is the real context happening
Thanks for the summary
I always thought not being racist meant "not caring about race", but it seems most people think that it is "caring about some specific races".
"Even Buddha's patience has limits"
仏の顔も三度まで
This Level of glazing is Fucking Irredeemable
Im glad Japan is fighting back against hyprocrisy and double standards. Was so tired of JP artists getting bullied coz of slightly different shades just for those same people to praise black edits
Guess EN Voice Actors are salty that their roles will end up being replaced by AI voices meanwhile Kingdom Hearts 4 is already doomed
As someone who wants to get into voice acting I agree
same @@jakk2631
don’t worry fellow khbro kingdom hearts missing link comes out tomorrow
@@Rabid_Muffin where?
"end up being replaced by AI"
Well yeah and it could have happened in 20 years if they didnt force Japan to speedrun the replacement. RIP the few sane VA still in business ..
Luckily, I as a german guy i dont have any problems with redarted eng voice actors :x
*the german dub of DanDaDan on Crunchy is really good if someone wanna give it a try X)
7:32 I can see a couple ways this could have lead to the change
Marketing team said don’t fan the flames, he figured this out himself, a fan made different art and asked to have to be their pfp for some as an honour or whatever, straight up attention lapse so adhd took over and had him fawn over the other art and make it the pfp
I never bothered to learn who most of the current VAs are. Anyone newer than Christiana Vee is unknown to me.
Aleks le is awesome
Cristina Vee is one of the few English VAs who actually give a damn about their performance, too. She was fantastic as Velvet Crowe in Tales of Berseria.
Same 😂 I only know the old (veteran) VAs like Yuri, Vic 😢. All the current new ones I don't pay attention to.
Doesn't matter if they're new. They can be as old as rial and Blum and they're still jerks now
Lucky you.
Japan's not the only one we're all sick of these voice actors and the localizers too. Japan IMO needs to solely handle Anime and Manga without Western interference.
No.
@@TheRogueXYes
And then these people have the gall to wonder why everyone is rooting for AI to take over their jobs
Its not even gal , they simply have that low of a self awareness . Its a cult and its everywhere
I love English VAs, but these kinds of VAs can get lost.
A repost of my comment on another similar video.
I saw an argument saying "And when Brazilian Miku was a thing you guys did not complain about it".
Well Its just a depiction if Miku had Brazilian culture into her character not a race change.
But its twitter so its not like they are gonna think about it that way.
That's also other nationality miku lol
Pretty bad argument from you. If you support one, then you should be for the other as well.
@@ExpertContrarian Here's a repost of my response I left in reply to a similar comment:
I believe Brazilian Miku wasn't a problem because Miku's background is not that set in stone. While there is a original model mainstream media have been portraying Miku in so many different forms, to the point where they were treated literally as different entities, which created a basis of acceptance of a different form of Miku. It wasn't treated as a race change, but more of a "Alternate model"
In this scenario, there was no justification to changing the race of the characters in the first place. The characters don't have any "cannon reason" to change races, other than the artist's ego. I'm sure these people wouldn't have a problem if it was Kirby who was colored black.
@@gonkakan I don’t care about your excuses. We all know Miku is Japanese. Easily destroyed your false premise. We all know why you people have a problem with black edits. You would NEVER act like this over a gender edit.
@ Where did you learn that Miki was Japanese? I was always under the impression that Miki was a "digital entity" with no real idea of race. Sure, most works are in a Japanese setting so they were technically considered Japanese, but it wasn't limited to that.
For the point of the gender edit, that's actually a good point that I haven't condidered! I know you didn't ask, but I thought about it for a bit, and since you gave me an idea, I would like to share it.
Ignore the following rant if not interested.
I also probably wouldn't respond the same if they were tanned edits, and a possible reason race edits make me feel unconfortable is because I personally think race is more than just the looks.
"I changed xxx to this skintone" feels fine. The skin looms different and you like it. cool.
"I changed xxx to this race" this one to me feels like they are covering over the entirety of the original character.
When race changes, experiences, values, and perspective changes. The same goes for gender, but I beleive that racial background has a stronger influence on these aspects. Putting that on a character that doesn't have a blank slate like Miku gives me the impression that they are disregarding the experience, values, and perspectives of those original characters.
Claiming that your "culture" is going to a barbershop more frequently than other people and knowing what burnt hair smells like is pathetic.
It's just proof that they have no real culture. They speak a European language, wear European clothing, and use European/White American technology and inventions.
My first thought is how many stories would actually have that as an element at all. Especially stories about adventures or beating villains. When would the American barbershop come up?
@@RyanG0899 Based
Suddenly I think about the "Thirty Dollar Haircut" line from the Android 13 movie.
He stole that part from Denzel Washington, and he took it way out of context. Denzel's point was that a director of a movie based on a specific culture should be from that culture.
If you have pronouns or flags in your bio, I stop taking you seriously.
Hey.
Hahah- GUAGH, man i like this One
We have much in common Stop Sign
Good for you. Why should anyone care about your opinion?
@@TheRogueX well you cared so much to respond
@@TheRogueX you literally cared so much to comment on a lot of people's comments. So explain why you care so much.
@@TheRogueX Well, you apparently care A LOT about a ton of opinions like this one right here in this comment section.
I know I've said it 100 times, but I really hate it when all English VAs are lumped in the same box as people as this, despite many actively speaking out against this kind of thing. Once again, they get bad press because some other obnoxious VA decides to get involved in discrimination (which is apparently okay as long as they do it).
Not surprising, coming from people who proudly displays _pronoms_ in their bio, like Evangelical Christians wearing a giant cross.
Aj Beckles just deleted his X account.
The moment Japanese voice actors learn English, it's over.
There are some even some go as far learn Russian. EN VA should go train their voice acting rather than involving themselves on stupid agendas no one cares about
Let's do it!
EN VA is the most easily replaceable VA in my opinion. The world can use English. If your character is a Russian just use Russian guy to voice it. The accent or some Russian sound will be natural.
They don’t even have to do that either, bc AI voice translation technology can translate what they are saying to another language and use the original voice.
nah, i think language barriers are a pretty significant part of the reason the east has not fallen to these horseshits
Now Everyone KNOWS.
God, I'm so tired of hearing English voice actors speak.
God, I'm so tired of hearing weebs complain.
@TheRogueX I'm tired of BLM Defenders always defending Blax!
1:12 my exact thought to westren twitter users and their double standars
It’s so wild that people are either that dumb that they can’t see it’s a double standard or that they are purposefully gaslighting people to make their racism acceptable.
"western"
Israel and Africa are not western civilian
It’s black people vs Everyone else
That’s not complaining just factual
The double standards is it’s only Good when it’s reversed into a Person of African/AA heritage and not the other way around
I wonder why that is?
Maybe the answer is what we seek, if your explanation is black people self-Victimize themselves or are Racist
Than that’s the Answer for you, now what remains is how do you go about changing that? Or is it another possible reasoning that needs explaining
Thank you for speaking what we all think. I agree with people from Japan - they don't want the woke US bs.
If you discriminate against people, you make a good case for them discriminating back at you. At this rate, maybe the sociopaths who are always pulling the victim card will actually begin to experience some of the discrimination they so desperately crave.
As a member of the dubbed anime group, the fact that voice actors are basically siding against their employers isn't a good sign. I'm just hoping Ian Sinclair doesn't stick his foot in his mouth.
Ian is the goat. Let’s just hope he doesn’t do something he’ll regret.
Aleks too. They are both such talented voice actors and I’d hate for their careers to be ruined by social media.
@expertarcher8542 Aleks doesn't come across someone who would do or say something stupid to jeopardize his career. Especially after he worked so hard to master the English language and his American accent. I was mind-blown when I learned he voiced Zenitzu and Thorfinn. Talk about versatility.
@@faa1412 oh I 100% agree. I don’t think any of them would do something like that.
Reminds me of the time when the BBC cast a black actress as Anne Boleyn, a historical figure who had Scottish ancestry. Also reminds me of how every redhead character in western entertainment seems to get replaced. It's so frustrating. The behavior is downright spiteful and that's an understatement.
If any good is to come out of this, it's both these VA's getting fired for not only supporting racism but being hypocrites & incapable of respecting the creators.
That AJ is such a lemming, he cannot even come up with his own thought. That was a quote from Denzel Washington.