Thank you so much to both of you for this interview. As someone recently discarded by a woman with mid-range NPD and an almost undeniable if vague/distant/coded level of self-awareness, watching this presentation feels very validating. The content provided by the other 4 well -known self-aware narcissists has been a lifesaver as well but since they are all male their material often feels a little less satisfying. I think it is easier for women to find supply and harder for them to emotionally confront themselves, which may explain the lopsided gender ratios among high-profile self aware narcissists, and therefore self-aware narcissists in general. Love is worth so much but at the end of the day if it's easier to wear a mask or exchange it for a new one then true vulnerability won't be possible, let alone growth. I am very grateful to Kylee for showing us that effective self-awareness and growth is possible, even for the female segment of the NPD population that gets far less media attention but is just as prevalent and important in their impact.
That’s very kind of you to say, thank you. I’m sorry to hear about your recent discard. Allow yourself to process and feel all of the emotions, bc the discarding process can absolutely create so much cognitive dissonance. It’s okay not to be okay for a while. Grieve, feel, heal, and then move forward knowing that you deserve a reciprocated and healthy love. 🖤🫂
Good evening Doctor Becky! Thank you for this new video! I'm glad you posted a new video. I'm watching it. I thought of you recently. I hope you're doing great 🙂🤠
My ex who is borderline cheated on me, lied to me about it (like she did on numerous men before) and discarded me without any kind of regret while during this trouble time she repeatedly said that she loved me and strangely enough I could feel that "love" (which wasn't actually). Can that behavior be characteristic of a narcissist? Looking back I don't think she loved me (3 years and a half of relationship) even if it seemed actual love. She is followed by several psy but nothing seems to change...
I'm not being negative so take this as perspective from the recipient of npd abuse long term. Its very difficult for someone that knows narcissists to not scrutinize every word out of her mouth. We know how good they lie. When i comment on her tiktok if she doesn't align with it she deletes the comment. Because she is very defensive of her image. She had years of therapy and her language around it is refined. So yes, she seems like shes not a narcissist but she is. And her npd is there off screen. The danger is leading people to believe that npd van be cured is it will keep their victims on the hook. I hope her life has improved and continues to. I also know shes not as refined in person as on camera and her brand depends on keeping that narrative. And i think its healthy to advocate for the victims of npd even if i get called a hater
@@mathews0618 I don’t delete TikTok comments, pretty much ever, unless they’re death threats. Are you sure you’re commenting on the correct profile? Impersonators are rampant on that app. The platform I actually check comments on is Insta- which I still don’t delete unless they’re overly cruel. I definitely have a lot to work on and I’m doing so off-screen, and I’ve never hidden that. But there’s nothing covert or insidious happening behind closed doors. I had a lot of maladaptive behaviors that I reduced, and I’m still left with some residual thought patterns that I’m working on in psychodynamic therapy. I understand the hesitation and wariness if you’ve had bad experiences with people who have NPD, and I’m sorry for any abuse you’ve endured from any narcissist, but my ‘brand’ is nothing except accountability and transparency. My life is messy in a myriad of ways, and I’m working on that mess. I wish you healing and peace.
37:48 sounds like her boyfriend has love addiction tendancies with the love bombing and putting a person on a pedestal.Good video.Also, in thr book "Facing Love Addiction" by Pia Mellody she writes that in our love addiction and copendancy we make the other person a higher power (putting them up on a pedastal) and try to "fix" them trying to play the role of a higher power. (A belief that I'm a god). The person you are intervening doesn't trust the therapists which is why she can't speak on certain topics. She might think the therapist is being evil or just playing games thus cant trust and also the therapist is a human so she can't fully explain her issues and will not be willing to discuss them. This would mean that she is submitting to an authority and people are not so easy to submit to any authortity. In her mind, she is the authority or her authority told her not to share these personal details with the therapists.
I don’t think the therapist is evil…? I’m very compliant with authority and as someone who loves psychology, I absolutely have enjoyed being treated over the years by different psychs who have used various therapeutic modalities. I’m honest and transparent with them- that’s how I’ve reduced my behaviors, after all. As far as the psych I was referring to in this video, prior to him I’d seen multiple psychs who’ve diagnosed me with BPD + NPD, and I felt like his quick judgment to erase those diagnoses after only a few times of meeting him was not helpful for my healing and wasn’t something I was comfortable with. I am receptive to hearing opposing professional opinions, but I didn’t want to lose years of progress in case his judgment ended up being short-sighted considering there wasn’t even any established rapport l yet. This interview was filmed a while back, but since then I’ve found a new psych who confirmed once again it’s BPD + NPD.
This chick is misdiagnosed severely. It's a fact that NPD can't be treated with conventional therapy (only cold therapy, that takes away the grandiosity and that's all). She's literally everything else in cluster B except a narcissist (she screams BPD).
Anyone with the knowledge of psychology to be able to make this sort of determination (in a therapeutic long term exposure setting) would never assume they would know enough about a person from curated content (and short exposure to it) to dispute the diagnosis of her long term care team.
@@toastytamal From many years of studying academic literature and scholars like Kernberg, Millon, Klein, Lachkar, James, Vaknin, Erikson, Gunderson, Kohut, Masterson and other giants of the field.
She does have BPD, but she also has NPD. She's literally shown her psych papers stating she has both. You are not a doctor. You reading up on the illnesses doesn't make you qualified to diagnose anyone. She's not "misdiagnosed"
@berylbaxter9180 That paper means nothing if she's misdiagnosed (and it happens all the time - many borderlines are misdiagnosed as bipolar, just one example). When there is comorbidity between NPD and BPD (factor 2 psychopathy), the borderlines self state is always primary. Even when she talks, she describes the borderline experience (which has many elements of narcissism) because of one simple reason: borderline state (BPD) is a failed attempt at becoming a full fledged narcissist (NPD), thus the comorbidity. Good night.
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Thanks for having me back on your channel! I enjoyed our conversation.
I enjoy your content Kaylee thank you
It’s like you’re describing me. I understand every statement as if I was talking about myself
Thank you so much to both of you for this interview. As someone recently discarded by a woman with mid-range NPD and an almost undeniable if vague/distant/coded level of self-awareness, watching this presentation feels very validating. The content provided by the other 4 well -known self-aware narcissists has been a lifesaver as well but since they are all male their material often feels a little less satisfying. I think it is easier for women to find supply and harder for them to emotionally confront themselves, which may explain the lopsided gender ratios among high-profile self aware narcissists, and therefore self-aware narcissists in general. Love is worth so much but at the end of the day if it's easier to wear a mask or exchange it for a new one then true vulnerability won't be possible, let alone growth. I am very grateful to Kylee for showing us that effective self-awareness and growth is possible, even for the female segment of the NPD population that gets far less media attention but is just as prevalent and important in their impact.
That’s very kind of you to say, thank you. I’m sorry to hear about your recent discard. Allow yourself to process and feel all of the emotions, bc the discarding process can absolutely create so much cognitive dissonance. It’s okay not to be okay for a while. Grieve, feel, heal, and then move forward knowing that you deserve a reciprocated and healthy love. 🖤🫂
shes a sweetheart!
Good evening Doctor Becky! Thank you for this new video! I'm glad you posted a new video. I'm watching it. I thought of you recently. I hope you're doing great 🙂🤠
Lovely to hear from you, thanks for thinking of me and thanks for watching it.
So glad to see you back, Docter Becky.
Since your short "Never too late to learn empathy" I'm do interested in your content.
My ex who is borderline cheated on me, lied to me about it (like she did on numerous men before) and discarded me without any kind of regret while during this trouble time she repeatedly said that she loved me and strangely enough I could feel that "love" (which wasn't actually). Can that behavior be characteristic of a narcissist? Looking back I don't think she loved me (3 years and a half of relationship) even if it seemed actual love. She is followed by several psy but nothing seems to change...
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I'm not being negative so take this as perspective from the recipient of npd abuse long term. Its very difficult for someone that knows narcissists to not scrutinize every word out of her mouth. We know how good they lie. When i comment on her tiktok if she doesn't align with it she deletes the comment. Because she is very defensive of her image. She had years of therapy and her language around it is refined. So yes, she seems like shes not a narcissist but she is. And her npd is there off screen. The danger is leading people to believe that npd van be cured is it will keep their victims on the hook. I hope her life has improved and continues to. I also know shes not as refined in person as on camera and her brand depends on keeping that narrative. And i think its healthy to advocate for the victims of npd even if i get called a hater
@@mathews0618 I don’t delete TikTok comments, pretty much ever, unless they’re death threats. Are you sure you’re commenting on the correct profile? Impersonators are rampant on that app. The platform I actually check comments on is Insta- which I still don’t delete unless they’re overly cruel. I definitely have a lot to work on and I’m doing so off-screen, and I’ve never hidden that. But there’s nothing covert or insidious happening behind closed doors. I had a lot of maladaptive behaviors that I reduced, and I’m still left with some residual thought patterns that I’m working on in psychodynamic therapy. I understand the hesitation and wariness if you’ve had bad experiences with people who have NPD, and I’m sorry for any abuse you’ve endured from any narcissist, but my ‘brand’ is nothing except accountability and transparency. My life is messy in a myriad of ways, and I’m working on that mess. I wish you healing and peace.
37:48 sounds like her boyfriend has love addiction tendancies with the love bombing and putting a person on a pedestal.Good video.Also, in thr book "Facing Love Addiction" by Pia Mellody she writes that in our love addiction and copendancy we make the other person a higher power (putting them up on a pedastal) and try to "fix" them trying to play the role of a higher power. (A belief that I'm a god). The person you are intervening doesn't trust the therapists which is why she can't speak on certain topics. She might think the therapist is being evil or just playing games thus cant trust and also the therapist is a human so she can't fully explain her issues and will not be willing to discuss them. This would mean that she is submitting to an authority and people are not so easy to submit to any authortity. In her mind, she is the authority or her authority told her not to share these personal details with the therapists.
I don’t think the therapist is evil…? I’m very compliant with authority and as someone who loves psychology, I absolutely have enjoyed being treated over the years by different psychs who have used various therapeutic modalities. I’m honest and transparent with them- that’s how I’ve reduced my behaviors, after all. As far as the psych I was referring to in this video, prior to him I’d seen multiple psychs who’ve diagnosed me with BPD + NPD, and I felt like his quick judgment to erase those diagnoses after only a few times of meeting him was not helpful for my healing and wasn’t something I was comfortable with. I am receptive to hearing opposing professional opinions, but I didn’t want to lose years of progress in case his judgment ended up being short-sighted considering there wasn’t even any established rapport l yet. This interview was filmed a while back, but since then I’ve found a new psych who confirmed once again it’s BPD + NPD.
This chick is misdiagnosed severely. It's a fact that NPD can't be treated with conventional therapy (only cold therapy, that takes away the grandiosity and that's all). She's literally everything else in cluster B except a narcissist (she screams BPD).
And Where did you get ur psych degree
Anyone with the knowledge of psychology to be able to make this sort of determination (in a therapeutic long term exposure setting) would never assume they would know enough about a person from curated content (and short exposure to it) to dispute the diagnosis of her long term care team.
@@toastytamal From many years of studying academic literature and scholars like Kernberg, Millon, Klein, Lachkar, James, Vaknin, Erikson, Gunderson, Kohut, Masterson and other giants of the field.
She does have BPD, but she also has NPD. She's literally shown her psych papers stating she has both.
You are not a doctor. You reading up on the illnesses doesn't make you qualified to diagnose anyone. She's not "misdiagnosed"
@berylbaxter9180 That paper means nothing if she's misdiagnosed (and it happens all the time - many borderlines are misdiagnosed as bipolar, just one example). When there is comorbidity between NPD and BPD (factor 2 psychopathy), the borderlines self state is always primary. Even when she talks, she describes the borderline experience (which has many elements of narcissism) because of one simple reason: borderline state (BPD) is a failed attempt at becoming a full fledged narcissist (NPD), thus the comorbidity. Good night.