I love purpur and have been using it for over a year at this point! I love the customizability and it even does some tasks async, such as eating food. Even at low TPS, i can still eat food at around the normal rate. Its a small detail but its still cool lol
This entire video; the editing, presentation, etc. Is more than I think I could ever do. Especially, (no offense) coming from a fairly small TH-camr. I hope to do as good as this in terms of content creation one day. Good job!
I've been using Purpur for years as my server jar of choice, and the ability for it to handle dozens of players simultaneously on "lower end" hardware while being insanely customizable has sold me as a life-long user. I shill it every chance I get now! I'm also working on a few custom plugins for my server, and the APIs that Purpur provides make it so so so much easier to develop for (not to mention more performant in the long run). I'm glad someone made a video about the best server software out there :)
wow I knew for a long time that purpur was better than paper but that there are so many settings and the fact that they also build their software on many other forks is really cool. now I like purpur even more thank you for this awesome video. Now I understood the basics of Minecraft server software. Really cool channel I subscribed immediately
Id be interested in a video where you compare different server software performance between each other. I would do this on already running world, new worlds and the perspective from a user and a server owner.
Great video. I was looking around to what Purpur was compared to Paper and you explained it perfectly! I'm going to test it out on my servers and see what I can do with it!
How does the performance of these bukkit forks compare to fabric optimization mods like lithium and ferritecore? In my experience lithium is faster than paper/purpur on small servers (unless someone is running as lag machine or smth) and doesn’t break any features, while bukkit forks, especially paper, break a lot of features
I love Purpur! They're deffo my preferred server software - i prioritize choice & options above all else. I used to be fairly active on Billy's discord server & even helped contribute to a few ideas (not code tho im a shit coder lol)
well i can say only that Purpur neat server core for unvanilla unique minecraft server wich i currently developing (love Skript plugin like this face 6:07) and i can say pufferfish needed only for some hub servers or minigame server when u dont need most of configs and i sure paper is enough for them
Ah yes I remember the fork wars back in the 1.16 where yatopia was on top because it combined purpur tuinity airplane yatopia it self and more I become "addicted" to the rambar and tpsbar in purpur and be able to ride things yes please also players but that's done with plugin I've never dived into the setting other then few example Ender chest size and leash villager
@MarkWasTaken , as someone thats tried just about every host out there under a $100, Apex has certainly been some of the top preformers for me worth the cost, even tried things like hostinger, mcprohosting, shockbyte, simplehosting, ect and well apex typically preforms better than each of them. Granted i prefer the control panel of mcprohosting n hostinger, apexes preformance really is just that good. So i tolerate its control panel
@@Cygnus_MC not sure if it's really "optimasation" just turning off features and still running the game slower than sodium. All I see is the fact that on every redstone and farm video is people complaining that the contraption does not work cause it disables basic functions by default which have no bearing on performance cause the devs for paper think they know what should be the defualt behavour. No one builds anything for paper cause it just optimises by switching things off so they should have a huge warning when installing that all farms and redstone will not work on the server. Also side note why does paper still require a restart when changing settings, fabric and others don't require a restart of the server everytime you change a gamerule. Lastly I also hear that devolpers say working with paper's api is just painful. So will concide it might be good for gamemodes but for survival minecraft it plain out sucks and haven't seen a video on it where someone compairs the MSPT of paper where it shows paper in a good light.
@CriticalCipher alright i think the issue here is that you have seen that video and "heared" a lot. Ive worked with paper and purpur for extended periods of my life. I know the bukkit api to a fair extend and can tell you for simple stuff its very very good if a little outdated. Fabric has the advantage of working with a mixins implementation wich for MOST things dont require a reboot, but for some still do. Just because paper isnt redstone friendly doesnt mean it sucks, maybe its not the software you want but that doesnt mean its useless as very large servers still operate on it
@@Cygnus_MC Alright fair. Though have only SEEN that it's performance is worst by someong on the redstone community running a non redstone based iron farm and seeing paper struggle with item entities. And this is all I have to go off since no one outside of the redstone community really seems to yse actual figures and graphs and do the testing required while others seem to only say it feels better but not provide evidence why it's better or what it is doing or sacrificing to get better performance. Also paper shoukd at this point just state on the site when you download that no redstone works on it cause you can look at any redstone discord or youtube video or even ask any of the redstone youtubers and they'll tell you they are tired of getting questions like "will this work on paper", "why doesn't this work on paper". Would love to see a comprehensive video explaining with evidence why each version is good and why one might need one of the other. Like showing how paper many clients paper can handle with no performance loss compared to vinilla or fabric. Do still stand that paper lacking as no one wants to make farms for it as they lack a client version with all the tools needed to test contraptions. But my main thing I wanted to ask is can purpur handle redstone contraptions and farms?
Now hear me out, does that make that software bad? Or does it make it not suitable for you. These behaviour chances can be turned off if they bother you too much
@BEANS_BEANS funny how its either bad or the best thing ever no? If ur that much of a redstone user Fabric is for you, tho calling paper bad just because its not made for your playstyle is where I have an issue
@@Cygnus_MC It's just redstone, which is how you basically make every farm for huge building projects or for making TNT dupers if you need a large place mined out for a huge build you're working on, etc. I like having plugins on the server, but I can't have any of my Redstone isn't working. It's just annoying to me that I can't work on all the cool projects I want to work on because Redstone doesn't function properly
@@Cygnus_MC because playing however you want and paper devs limiting creativity go hand in hand. fabric has better performance, cubicmetre has a great video on it. Fabric is just better, lot less hoops to jump through to get it working and even more options that purpur.
in 95% of situations with how convoluted it is to get paper forks to work like actual minecraft, fabric is just much simpler and better unless you are trying to setup a massive server like hypixel or other minigame servers
if they stop supporting spigot plugins i quit i cant be bothered trying to send a message to a player and instead of player.sendMessage doing new AbstractComponent(TextComponent.builder().setText("blahblahblah").setAnnoyingFlag(true)).toAbstractSignletonFactoryManager().build() { @Override public SimplePaperColorImpl getStartingColor() { try { return ChatColors.buildPaperChatColorInternalClass().create(); // Throws IOException for np reason } catch (IOException e) { e.printStackTrace(); } } }
@@Cygnus_MC im trying to tell you that paper really wants to use textcomponents and make it really annoying just to sent a message and some other annoying api changes for this reason i am still coding spigot plugins even though im running purpur
Anyone want a video on optimization?
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@@CuBoyd soon my friend, soon
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@@eyadmosleh09which one are you using?
I love purpur and have been using it for over a year at this point! I love the customizability and it even does some tasks async, such as eating food. Even at low TPS, i can still eat food at around the normal rate. Its a small detail but its still cool lol
Great to hear!
This entire video; the editing, presentation, etc. Is more than I think I could ever do. Especially, (no offense) coming from a fairly small TH-camr. I hope to do as good as this in terms of content creation one day. Good job!
No offemce taken, thank you so much for the compliment!
I've been using Purpur for years as my server jar of choice, and the ability for it to handle dozens of players simultaneously on "lower end" hardware while being insanely customizable has sold me as a life-long user. I shill it every chance I get now!
I'm also working on a few custom plugins for my server, and the APIs that Purpur provides make it so so so much easier to develop for (not to mention more performant in the long run). I'm glad someone made a video about the best server software out there :)
Glad to see another purpur using chad!
You have a great talent for content creation. Keep at it and you're DESTINED to grow big!
Thank you! Kind words like these make it all worth it!
wow I knew for a long time that purpur was better than paper but that there are so many settings and the fact that they also build their software on many other forks is really cool. now I like purpur even more thank you for this awesome video. Now I understood the basics of Minecraft server software. Really cool channel I subscribed immediately
I am looking for a jar to use one raspberry like purpur, but I want to be sure that it doesn't alter gameplay mechanics like paper.
if u want something fast that wont ruin farms i suggest fabric server with lithium as a server side mod
Also a good option
Id be interested in a video where you compare different server software performance between each other. I would do this on already running world, new worlds and the perspective from a user and a server owner.
nice video, thank you for the interview!
And thank you, for your work and help!
Great video. I was looking around to what Purpur was compared to Paper and you explained it perfectly! I'm going to test it out on my servers and see what I can do with it!
@@UnicornYames not often that i get a reaction on this old video but im glad its still beeing usefull
this is very interesting. never heared of this but definatly will try that out.
Cool!
How does the performance of these bukkit forks compare to fabric optimization mods like lithium and ferritecore? In my experience lithium is faster than paper/purpur on small servers (unless someone is running as lag machine or smth) and doesn’t break any features, while bukkit forks, especially paper, break a lot of features
Good question! From our tests it seems the difference is mostly felt in long term stability but neglectable overall
Purpur is the more advanced version of paper in terms of security, optimization etc
Exactly!
It's really not
I love Purpur! They're deffo my preferred server software - i prioritize choice & options above all else. I used to be fairly active on Billy's discord server & even helped contribute to a few ideas (not code tho im a shit coder lol)
Awesome! Purpur is indeed very awesome
Why there is a private video in the playlist
Oh is there? Lol
@@Cygnus_MC Bruh
@@Cygnus_MC it's in Minecraft history playlist
well i can say only that
Purpur neat server core for unvanilla unique minecraft server wich i currently developing (love Skript plugin like this face 6:07) and i can say pufferfish needed only for some hub servers or minigame server when u dont need most of configs and i sure paper is enough for them
P.S. u r forcing me to put this(6:43) on my pfp
@@Enigma_ZXC ur welcome
@@Cygnus_MC :>
@@Enigma_ZXC :>
I love running with scissors.
Still not for techhnical minecraft
This "PurPurSpigot" paper thing sounds interesting...
Hello encode, honour to have you here.
Does it ruin zero-tick and other parts of Redstone and farms? Great video btw.
Euhmm i think so. And thank you!
Ah yes I remember the fork wars back in the 1.16 where yatopia was on top because it combined purpur tuinity airplane yatopia it self and more
I become "addicted" to the rambar and tpsbar in purpur and be able to ride things yes please also players but that's done with plugin
I've never dived into the setting other then few example Ender chest size and leash villager
There are some cool settings
so why it should make minecraft fun again? still dont know
Its about making the server your own again!
What should i use paper or purpur
Pufferfish for perfomance
Purpur for more optimization
Which is best paper ya purpur
what server host do you use
I have my own server in a datacenter. So none. But i always reccomend apex
apex is expensive asf lmao
@@MarkWasTakenexpensive, but they have good hardware and good support. So I’d say it’s worth the price for me.
@MarkWasTaken , as someone thats tried just about every host out there under a $100, Apex has certainly been some of the top preformers for me worth the cost, even tried things like hostinger, mcprohosting, shockbyte, simplehosting, ect and well apex typically preforms better than each of them. Granted i prefer the control panel of mcprohosting n hostinger, apexes preformance really is just that good. So i tolerate its control panel
Your channel is great, algorithm got me here and I love the videos! You got the sub
Im glad u gave me a chance! Be sure to look forward to new conent soon!
0:13 Smp without tnt explosions is pretty borring ngl. Sadly that too laggy.
True! But running 60 people on a single world gets laggy fast. Altho purpur does habe some better math for explosions
i don't get the title it should probably be something with paper/purpuir
The goal of Purpur is to make Minecraft more costumizable and fun. Hence the title, but ill add it in there!
Paper also hates Redstone with passion.
It does not
@@Cygnus_MCreally? I thought paper broke alot of farms n redstone? At least coming from other players words. I dont do them enough to know for sure
@ExOhz it messes with restone yes, i wouldnt say they HATE it with a passion. These behaviours can always be turned off
Not really @Cygnus_MC th-cam.com/video/XjjXYrMK4qw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=m0hbw4mGfYWKaJin
Purpur is sometimes bad with certain plugins and makes me switch to paper which is sad.
I havnt seen that yet, you should report that to the pupur discord.
Got a list of plugins its bad with? Also yes you should report it to the team to fix.
4:34 OMG THATS ME LMAO
nice video & music taste
Thanks! I apreciate that!
Play on THE OLDEST ANARCHY SERVER OF MINECRAFT
Does PurpurMC suck as much as paper? Like after watching cubic not sure why you would want to use these.
Paper and its forks do not suck. They have their place as the api u use for large scale/gamemode/minigames servers
@@Cygnus_MC not sure if it's really "optimasation" just turning off features and still running the game slower than sodium. All I see is the fact that on every redstone and farm video is people complaining that the contraption does not work cause it disables basic functions by default which have no bearing on performance cause the devs for paper think they know what should be the defualt behavour. No one builds anything for paper cause it just optimises by switching things off so they should have a huge warning when installing that all farms and redstone will not work on the server. Also side note why does paper still require a restart when changing settings, fabric and others don't require a restart of the server everytime you change a gamerule. Lastly I also hear that devolpers say working with paper's api is just painful. So will concide it might be good for gamemodes but for survival minecraft it plain out sucks and haven't seen a video on it where someone compairs the MSPT of paper where it shows paper in a good light.
@CriticalCipher alright i think the issue here is that you have seen that video and "heared" a lot. Ive worked with paper and purpur for extended periods of my life. I know the bukkit api to a fair extend and can tell you for simple stuff its very very good if a little outdated. Fabric has the advantage of working with a mixins implementation wich for MOST things dont require a reboot, but for some still do. Just because paper isnt redstone friendly doesnt mean it sucks, maybe its not the software you want but that doesnt mean its useless as very large servers still operate on it
@@Cygnus_MC Alright fair. Though have only SEEN that it's performance is worst by someong on the redstone community running a non redstone based iron farm and seeing paper struggle with item entities. And this is all I have to go off since no one outside of the redstone community really seems to yse actual figures and graphs and do the testing required while others seem to only say it feels better but not provide evidence why it's better or what it is doing or sacrificing to get better performance. Also paper shoukd at this point just state on the site when you download that no redstone works on it cause you can look at any redstone discord or youtube video or even ask any of the redstone youtubers and they'll tell you they are tired of getting questions like "will this work on paper", "why doesn't this work on paper". Would love to see a comprehensive video explaining with evidence why each version is good and why one might need one of the other. Like showing how paper many clients paper can handle with no performance loss compared to vinilla or fabric. Do still stand that paper lacking as no one wants to make farms for it as they lack a client version with all the tools needed to test contraptions. But my main thing I wanted to ask is can purpur handle redstone contraptions and farms?
@@Cygnus_MC Thanks in advance for the responce
Great video as always!
Great comment as always
“I can’t use” and proceeds to dump 200lines of error log in the comment. 1 star
Lmao
don't use purpur or paper there so bad i literally spent 30 hours on a redstone contraption and it literally doesn't work!
Now hear me out, does that make that software bad? Or does it make it not suitable for you. These behaviour chances can be turned off if they bother you too much
@@Cygnus_MC how do i turn it off i have looked in the purpur files and i see nothing that even mentions redstone
@@Cygnus_MC if u help me turn it off and fix bedrock breaking, tnt dupers and my redstone contraption i will say purpur is the best
@BEANS_BEANS funny how its either bad or the best thing ever no? If ur that much of a redstone user Fabric is for you, tho calling paper bad just because its not made for your playstyle is where I have an issue
@@Cygnus_MC It's just redstone, which is how you basically make every farm for huge building projects or for making TNT dupers if you need a large place mined out for a huge build you're working on, etc.
I like having plugins on the server, but I can't have any of my Redstone isn't working. It's just annoying to me that I can't work on all the cool projects I want to work on because Redstone doesn't function properly
join it or i will find u and steal ur mc acc
Fantastic video
Fantastic comment!
JASONS PFP IS THAIBOY DIGITAL LMFAOO
THAIBOY WHAT NOW
@@Cygnus_MC DIGITAL
@@sanoke_ IM SO CONFUSED
random ass click bait title
🟪🟪🟪🟪 purpur
Oh hi Rythm! Hope u enjoyed the show!
am not a bot just bored
dont report meh for spaming ad
@@Thelavafortress I think youtube flagged you hahaha
i think so too i could not put the discord link in some of my replies @@Cygnus_MC
they had made it unable to do so
first?
First indeed
purpur is shit and limits creativity, just use fabric
Calling a software shit for a game meant to play however you want because it limits something you do is kinda odd buddy
@@Cygnus_MC fabric servers can do all of what purpur can do and more, and its proven to be less laggy. Just watch cubicmetres video on paper
@@Cygnus_MC because playing however you want and paper devs limiting creativity go hand in hand. fabric has better performance, cubicmetre has a great video on it. Fabric is just better, lot less hoops to jump through to get it working and even more options that purpur.
in 95% of situations with how convoluted it is to get paper forks to work like actual minecraft, fabric is just much simpler and better unless you are trying to setup a massive server like hypixel or other minigame servers
First
First!
@@Cygnus_MC frist
@@Cygnus_MC first
@@CuBoyd well honestly i was first?
First(real)
very real
if they stop supporting spigot plugins i quit i cant be bothered trying to send a message to a player and instead of player.sendMessage doing new AbstractComponent(TextComponent.builder().setText("blahblahblah").setAnnoyingFlag(true)).toAbstractSignletonFactoryManager().build() {
@Override
public SimplePaperColorImpl getStartingColor() {
try {
return ChatColors.buildPaperChatColorInternalClass().create(); // Throws IOException for np reason
} catch (IOException e) {
e.printStackTrace();
}
}
}
@@jimmlmao why would they do that?
@@Cygnus_MC im trying to tell you that paper really wants to use textcomponents and make it really annoying just to sent a message and some other annoying api changes for this reason i am still coding spigot plugins even though im running purpur