When doesn't he? Lol Fantano is the epitome of the target audience for his music. Fantanos reviews kind of expose the low key racism that's embedded into privileged individuals. Cole makes music that someone from a low income environment can easily access and be motivated by, whereas Kendrick makes music the average or below average education level individual isn't going to grasp correctly. This is pointless because if the only people who are going to understand and decipher your message are the people who are smart enough not to need it then what good is going to do? It's like going into a remedial class and trying to explain calculus when they're struggling to grasp fractions still... Cole on the other hand IS accessible and therefore WILL help the people he's aiming to inspire. Kendrick is just aiming to win awards and pack shows with people who can afford the high price of the tickets.
@@maxxmarino6500 I love cole too my guy and I absolutely disagree with Anthony here. But isn't it ironic you're hating on Anthony while acting just like him?
@@maxxmarino6500 wtf type of education do you think kendrick had? you don't need harvard education to understand kendrick's lyrics, you just need to turn your brain on. you are literally saying that the people kendrick makes music for are too stupid to understand it which is racist as fuck lmfao.
lol. Feel bad for Cole. Such a shame he had to share the same era/decade as Kendrick. If he came out in like the 2000s instead he’d be like top 10 all time smh
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 I still love Cole tho, he is easily in My top five streamed artists with Denzel and Kendrick. But I think he got a lot of hate that he don't deserve, because a lot of people cannot stop comparing him to Kendrick or hate him because some Cole fans can be very annoying
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 no he wouldn’t lmao. There are 10 other rappers in the 2000s alone who are better than him. There is no universe where Cole is EVER a top 10 of all time. Every single decade including this one has better rappers than him.
J Cole’s music is like perfecting a green bean casserole recipe. Yeah, its impressive, yeah, it takes time, but the end result is still green bean casserole.
Ikr…like even when I disagree (which I normally do with his rap takes) I still gotta laugh because he’s just such an Awhole😂😂..to like a cartoonish level like I just wanna punch him but in a good way?
The moment Cole got in a argument with noname (who was right btw) he said with his full chest "I don't read, but I think a lot" and I think that sums up his game all together.
Bro listening to GOMD and saying “Wow this is so deeppp” sarcastically os fked up too. Bro acts like everyone song should have an emotional story about his friend dying, Anthony is just weird. Listens to too much Kendrick
@@KingstonDope I don’t really see J. Cole fans doing that, he’s just comparing him to Kendrick and saying that Kendrick speaks knowledge while J. Cole be speaking nonsense which is far from true.
@@haadyabdul1683 they did it so much it became a meme but those fans grew up. melon compares him to kendrick bcoz the video is literally why a collab of theirs is a bad idea according to him.
I think it might be an inside joke on the channel to compare the two, and if you were to realistically compare the two, Kendrick is better. I think that’s why he says that type of stuff. Not to discredit Cole, his next album is without a doubt gonna compete with Kendrick’s newer stuff
Cole stans have this idea that him and Kendrick are equal... Like Nigga where?? If anything it feels like the dude is a Downgraded version of Dot The only debate I can have is them as Lyricists Today because Dot isn't even focused on Bars like that anymore
@LUCKY-lf2jv Tbf it's not Cole who does that it's typically his Fanbase who wanna put him amongst all time Greats when I'm like where... Like J.Cole's discography doesn't warrant me putting him in the same sentence as Jigga Kdot or Nasir Jones nowhere near Kanye and Lupe Fiasco but when you tell this to his fans they be talm how good of a lyricist he is when that's only one facet of hiphop
@@haadyabdul1683 Fantano is one dude who’s more critical of Cole the majority of people so idk how that means he’s underrated. And a lot of Fantano’s criticisms are valid
@@christiancontreras4492 None of his criticisms are valid from what I heard, they sound more “opinion orientated” than actual facts. For example, I can say Kendrick’s voice sounds like a cat died and that makes him a trash rapper. Now his voice is still kinda weird IMO but that obviously doesn’t make him bad. Just cuz Fantano doesn’t fw the message of his songs, doesn’t mean that he didn’t just Very Artistically construct a structured song about something and lyrically destroyed it. He’s just hating cuz he doesn’t vibe with the message or his style and How Cole lives his life, cuz essentially, his songs are basically about him self reflecting
@@haadyabdul1683 I hate this stupid ass type of comment. Pretty much everything about music besides numbers is subjective so obviously it’s an opinion. I’m saying I can see how he arrived to some of his opinions
@@isaiaharmand6168That was DAMN good analogy😂similar to Toby no matter what J Cole does fantano has it in his minds he hates this dudes music it gives all the same vibes does to Toby
With Melon bringing up Kendrick so much, I can’t help but feel like Cole is always on the precipice of being super deep and introspective, but it just never fully becomes realized. Kendrick can create whole stories and narratives from different perspectives and situations not only on whole projects, but a lot of the time song to song. He a lot of the time feels like he’s playing it safe, where as Kendrick genuinely feels like he is putting damn near his all out there every time, regardless of appeal
@@superdupeninja8149 Agreed, they're two different artists with two different goals, but Kendrick hasn't really appealed to me for a long time personally
@@superdupeninja8149 never said Cole sucks. He’s right up there with Kendrick as one of my favorite rappers going. But with them occupying the same lane, and doing similar things musically, the comparisons become easy to make. Not saying either is biting off the other, just saying Cole never seems to deliver in the same way or makes quite a big mark on the game and society in general. TPAB didn’t start the BLM movement by any means but “Alright” and a lot of the problems and issues brought up in that project made it become a symbol for the whole situation. J Cole’s best attempt at that in my mind was KOD and while he did send a message about addiction and societal injustice, it never seemed fully realized. On “Friends” he quite literally suggest everyone dealing with stress and addiction just “meditate don’t medicate” and while meditation can help create balance and calm the mind and body, it’s not the fucking answer.
I haven't heard Mr. Nice Watch in at least 6 years. That being said, the instant Anthony said it sounds like a throwaway from Watch the Throne I saw what he was saying
While I like me some Cole, I kind of get what Fantano is saying. People hype up Cole so much like this greater than life dope conscious rapper, but I feel he falls short of the hype most of the time. And he absolutely does love rapping about himself and how woke and dope he is. I think the problem are his Stans. I totally agree that he isn’t TOP TOP notch like he himself or his fans like to point out every minute lmao.
Freddie Gibbs, Rtj, Denzel, Aesop, Clipping, Kanye, even Drake, these are all rappers I can name from the top of my dome that had a much better discography than j Cole past decade, dude is washed
I love how the "if only you were as smart or enlightened or amazing as me" crowd naturally gravitated to J. Cole as that crowd of faux-intellectual egotists would in fact naturally gravitate towards him.
I love Cole but I do agree that none of his albums line up to his potential. We’ve heard what he can do on a feature or on some specific songs but his albums are just not of that quality
Time reveals all. In 09…I was in awe of Cole. Mainly bc I found him relatable. And the music was good with the potential of being great. Now as an adult…I hardly ever listen to anything J Cole. There’s nothing new to him. What u see is what u get.
It’s hilarious how all the comments from 10 months ago are complaining about he keeps knocking down Cole to glaze Kendrick and it’s aged so well after recent events. I understand Fantano can have some horrible takes but he’s always been spot on about Cole.
It's not necessarily mediocre, it's a warning shot for warning shot. As kendrick only had 1 or 2 bars for cole, I feel this was perfect response to send .
@@satvikkhandagale6781 idk, he made a what.. over 3 minute diss track as a warning shot? when Kendrick said maybe 2 lines referring to Cole, what Kendrick did is what I'd call warning shots, 1 or 2 shots, what Cole did was empty an entire mag, and none of his shots hit, and so he called em warning shots
@@yalldumb2387 1 month later + the apology from J.Cole, I think you’re absolutely right. Cole should’ve just throwing a few bars at Kendrick just for the sake of competition and it would have been alright, but he stretched this shit out and came up with this whole diss, spitting bullshit that he himself doesn’t believe. Apologizing was the right thing, but he shouldn’t have come up with that long diss in the first place.
@@Jcolecolej bro it's not even close... You can like Cole, that's cool. You can vibe to him more, relate more to his music or whatever... Don't try and act like he is actually a better artist tho... It's an argument you're just never gonna win 😂
it’s impossible to talk about Cole without talking about Kendrick. Cole fills every musical niche that Kendrick does but worse 😂 and the sales show it and the fans show it and the critics show it, Cole rides Kendrick’s wave so hard and his penis as well
I swear Cole is the only rapper where I feel like me and Fantano are listening to 2 different rappers. None of the point he makes abt Cole make sense to me when I dig deep and think abt it beyond a surface level
J cole spent his whole career doing his best Nas impression.. he doesn't measure up but he's better than just about everyone else thats mainstream rn.. he's not bad but he's not nearly as good as the media would like you to think imo
@@rawbrenaissance.he’s raw stop speaking like your opinion is fact. Most of Cole haters haven’t even listened to like 1/3 of discography which includes his mixtapes which has some of his best work
I'll honestly never get why people compare J Cole and Kendrick. In literally no way is Cole anywhere near the same universe as Kendrick, but people worship the dude like he's the second coming
They get compared because some of their earlier songs share the same themes. I think thats about it. Jcole is great imo but I do agree Kendrick is better
Kendrick is better as a rapper, but Cole has a certain delivery when he gets in his story telling bag that's nearly unmatched. 4 Your Eyez Only & 2014 are loaded with songs showcasing exactly what I'm talking about.
@@jacobwitt2070 Duckworth and Sing about me have way better story telling and delivery than anything in Cole's entire discography. Even songs on section 80 outclass some of Cole's best story telling songs.
Its because they were both lyrical rappers at a time where lyrisism was fading. In the late 2000s rap became more about how cathy the songs are. If kdot came out in the early 2000s no one would compare them
J Cole is genuinely like the midway point between people who think Kendrick is the best and people who think Logic is the best... He is so many levels below
Honestly, I agree with him, I do not like J. Cole but during high school, I use to force myself to listen to him because all my friends liked him once I actually went through his discography there wasn't anything aside from a few songs I liked.
@@WyWidI think Cole just has more mass appeal because his raps are simpler, and he uses more melodies. I love Kendrick but his lyrical miracle jazzy raps aren’t for everyone
@@chefsweaty6744by your logic most people should be of the opinion that j cole is better because he'd have much more fans than Kendrick but that's not the case so your statement must be wrong.
@@tbsLuke he is talking about the average joe, not an anthony fantano youtube comment section where most people act snobby about lyricism and criticize and analyze music more than the average person. I prefer Kendrick but i think jcole is more digestible for most people, like TPAB is very jarring and can take multiple listens to truly enjoy
I think J Coles best album by far was 4 Your Eyes Only, very consistent album while I agree with Fantano on Coles other releases were largely choppy. Kendrick? You can make an argument that TPAB is better than GKMC or Vice versa. However, I will say my favorite song from Cole by far is “4 your eyez only” while my favorite from Kendrick is “sing about me/dying of thirst”. I find myself coming back to 4 your eyez more often than sing about me
it cracks me up that immediately after the Kendrick Drake beef, j Cole released Grippy and we were all just like “…well. it’s been a crazy year and he dodged that K dot bullet by the skin of his teeth. It’s probably just survivors guilt he’ll be back”
I’m baffled at how massive of a hit Wet Dreamz was. Even when I was a virgin that song made me cringe to my core, and now that I’m not a virgin it makes me cringe 10x more. Whenever I listen to FHD I instantly skip that song the second it comes on.
"m on your head, you Luigi brother now" Any other rapper says this and it would go unnoticed or made fun of. With J Cole his fans swear it's one of the most fire bars ever. He's overrated.
Exactly. When people put him side by side with Kendrick I give them a bombastic side eye, but I get it, they're contemporaries, though unlike Kendrick, Cole can play it safe most of the times whereas Kendrick somehow never misses the opportunity to challenge the listener, even when trying to get commercial appeal (DAMN). J Cole is like a lite version of Nas
@@arseeoliveira6934 People like to play up J Cole's lyricism and versatility. Yeah he has some catchy songs and some decent bars but like you said, next to people like kendrick he's absolutely blown out of the water in terms of hits, lyricism, versatility and just sound. Which is why i hate when people compare them. Maybe its just nostalgia for some people and maybe its bc i have none for him, but to me he's just barely decent bc he can be really corny sometimes
@@arseeoliveira6934 I hate this take because in a world post 2014 FHD, Cole chose to make 4YEO. An album so antithetical to the modern hip hop sound it might as well be a different genre. What mainstream acts are creating records as intimate, quiet, and deeply felt as Cole is?! I listen to a song like SHE'S MINE and all I think is, "This is so sincere, it's almost embarrassing. It's like hearing someone freestyle a lullaby to their baby while in the privacy of their own home. No one makes music this absolutely revealing, at least not at his level." Even if you don't like that record, it's such a rigorously constructed and cohesive bit of self-reflection and honesty that I don't see how ppl see it as playing it safe. Playing it safe would have been more soul samples, more charismatic flow shifts, and more big records like NO ROLE MODELZ. But none of that is there, it's literally the exact opposite...
Listen He hates on Cole for the same reason anyone who isn't a stan does. If we're cutting the bullshit and being honest cole is just Ok. Mid. Average to maybe slightly above average. His music is rarely something to write home about. Which is all forgiveable. It's the way his fans hype him up like he's fuckin Socrates and his music is hard to understand. And now he's starting to buy into it himself. His fan base makes me hate him more than his actual music does
The next one I want to see is him hating on The National I know the band’s not his cup of tea, but the way he expresses his meh-ness towards’em is well-prepared
It's kinda funny because every rapper around J Cole(rappers he inspired, peers, rappers he was inspired by) tend to out class him in at least one of his focuses minimum. He's super overrated.
Kinda hard to really give Cole a chance after that lame Noname diss... like he's made she made a point but because it "rubbed him the wrong way" (tone policing) he had to say something like that.
I used to be a Cole super fan after 2014 forest hills drive. And then his newer albums got just plain boring to me and eh. Now I escaped and yes he’s overrated to me. But he’s not bad. I never go back to his music anymore 😂. Video hilarious though 😭
Cole said it the best himself in snow on tha bluff, he knows he's not yet actually doing enough to be anything other than a mainstream successful rapper
TH-cam recommending this after J. Cole apologized, is crazy
algorithm knew exactly what it was doing bringing us here
wild
seriously
That apology aged better than anything I’ve seen in a long time lol
He just straight up talked about his love for Kendrick for 13 minutes
When doesn't he? Lol Fantano is the epitome of the target audience for his music. Fantanos reviews kind of expose the low key racism that's embedded into privileged individuals.
Cole makes music that someone from a low income environment can easily access and be motivated by, whereas Kendrick makes music the average or below average education level individual isn't going to grasp correctly. This is pointless because if the only people who are going to understand and decipher your message are the people who are smart enough not to need it then what good is going to do? It's like going into a remedial class and trying to explain calculus when they're struggling to grasp fractions still...
Cole on the other hand IS accessible and therefore WILL help the people he's aiming to inspire. Kendrick is just aiming to win awards and pack shows with people who can afford the high price of the tickets.
bro exposed his thesis
@@maxxmarino6500 Kendrick’s music doesn’t inspire people? He’s aiming for awards? That’s such a uneducated take.
@@maxxmarino6500 I love cole too my guy and I absolutely disagree with Anthony here. But isn't it ironic you're hating on Anthony while acting just like him?
@@maxxmarino6500 wtf type of education do you think kendrick had? you don't need harvard education to understand kendrick's lyrics, you just need to turn your brain on. you are literally saying that the people kendrick makes music for are too stupid to understand it which is racist as fuck lmfao.
Fantano hating Cole for not being kendrick is one of My favorite things
lol. Feel bad for Cole. Such a shame he had to share the same era/decade as Kendrick. If he came out in like the 2000s instead he’d be like top 10 all time smh
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 I still love Cole tho, he is easily in My top five streamed artists with Denzel and Kendrick. But I think he got a lot of hate that he don't deserve, because a lot of people cannot stop comparing him to Kendrick or hate him because some Cole fans can be very annoying
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 no he wouldn’t lmao. There are 10 other rappers in the 2000s alone who are better than him. There is no universe where Cole is EVER a top 10 of all time. Every single decade including this one has better rappers than him.
@@BigOwl51 why the hate? Cole is dope
Even if there wasn't a Kendrick Lamar, J cole would still be a decent to good rapper, not amazing
It’s…its…it’s… grippy
J Cole’s music is like perfecting a green bean casserole recipe. Yeah, its impressive, yeah, it takes time, but the end result is still green bean casserole.
😂Most Accurate Take on Cole
Yassss
"and I do laundry at my house" "but when I do it I don't have to write a f ing soung about it" got me dying💀😭
I don’t really think anyone necessarily needs to be writing songs about an homeless dude asking them for change either, to be fair.
9:10
@@masonscott2168dumbest take I've ever seen
@@masonscott2168Wtf is this trash ass take, if you really think that's all HMADC boils to, you're buggin
@@masonscott2168did this make you feel smart?
I love these videos of Anthony hating, he’s so mean in such an entertaining way
Amen
Tf??
If melon insulted a shitty album i made i wouldn't even care that he was being mean because he's hysterical
Fr😂😂😂😂 I can disagree with most of it but it still entertains me
Ikr…like even when I disagree (which I normally do with his rap takes) I still gotta laugh because he’s just such an Awhole😂😂..to like a cartoonish level like I just wanna punch him but in a good way?
Cole is like if Kendrick's favorite show was the office
Phenomenal take
That’s the funniest shit I’ve heard today.
How is this so accurate... 😂
W
nah cole is like you tried to reheat nas in the microwave put accidentally put it on 1:00 instead of 0:10
The moment Cole got in a argument with noname (who was right btw) he said with his full chest "I don't read, but I think a lot" and I think that sums up his game all together.
😢His fans think he's this "woke" and very "conscious" rapper like nigga where?? There's barely anything deep I feel like Cole tackles
Calling Let Nas Down "slightly pathetic" was downright brutal 💀
Bro listening to GOMD and saying “Wow this is so deeppp” sarcastically os fked up too. Bro acts like everyone song should have an emotional story about his friend dying, Anthony is just weird. Listens to too much Kendrick
@@haadyabdul1683 I think the joke is as that J. Cole fans really be saying stuff like that when he’s really not saying anything
@@KingstonDope I don’t really see J. Cole fans doing that, he’s just comparing him to Kendrick and saying that Kendrick speaks knowledge while J. Cole be speaking nonsense which is far from true.
@@haadyabdul1683 they did it so much it became a meme but those fans grew up. melon compares him to kendrick bcoz the video is literally why a collab of theirs is a bad idea according to him.
I think it might be an inside joke on the channel to compare the two, and if you were to realistically compare the two, Kendrick is better. I think that’s why he says that type of stuff. Not to discredit Cole, his next album is without a doubt gonna compete with Kendrick’s newer stuff
I’m here after…..grippy…..
This getting re-recommended by TH-cam at the perfect time 😂 the algo is diabolical lmaoo
This channel is the safe haven for all Cole haters to gather and feel accepted😄😄. Thankyou Fantano for creating such a beautiful community
I’m glad you’re aware most of yall are just cornball haters
I'm mostly indifferent. idk why everyone hypes him up so much
@@benjiusofficial idk why everyone hates him. Mostly Kendrick fan gays and hip hop elitist because he’s not “deep or lyrical” enough
Might Update Later
Cause he released grippy💀
Ppl complain that fantano compares cole to kdot a lot, but be honest; he has to do that bcuz cole stans are constantly doing that already
Cole stans have this idea that him and Kendrick are equal... Like Nigga where?? If anything it feels like the dude is a Downgraded version of Dot
The only debate I can have is them as Lyricists Today because Dot isn't even focused on Bars like that anymore
@@ByronJackson11so Cole is better nigga why is Kendrick better????😊
j cole likes to pretend he's on the same level as kendrick and it hurts to watch
@LUCKY-lf2jv Tbf it's not Cole who does that it's typically his Fanbase who wanna put him amongst all time Greats when I'm like where... Like J.Cole's discography doesn't warrant me putting him in the same sentence as Jigga Kdot or Nasir Jones nowhere near Kanye and Lupe Fiasco but when you tell this to his fans they be talm how good of a lyricist he is when that's only one facet of hiphop
@@LUCKY-lf2jv he doesn't have to pretend he is above Kendrick
Somehow J Cole manages to be both overrated and underrated at the same time
What’s the underrated part?
@@christiancontreras4492 This
@@haadyabdul1683 Fantano is one dude who’s more critical of Cole the majority of people so idk how that means he’s underrated. And a lot of Fantano’s criticisms are valid
@@christiancontreras4492 None of his criticisms are valid from what I heard, they sound more “opinion orientated” than actual facts. For example, I can say Kendrick’s voice sounds like a cat died and that makes him a trash rapper. Now his voice is still kinda weird IMO but that obviously doesn’t make him bad. Just cuz Fantano doesn’t fw the message of his songs, doesn’t mean that he didn’t just Very Artistically construct a structured song about something and lyrically destroyed it. He’s just hating cuz he doesn’t vibe with the message or his style and How Cole lives his life, cuz essentially, his songs are basically about him self reflecting
@@haadyabdul1683 I hate this stupid ass type of comment. Pretty much everything about music besides numbers is subjective so obviously it’s an opinion. I’m saying I can see how he arrived to some of his opinions
That J Cole interview about to be very awkward
no way he's actually interviewing j cole
He definitely hated way harder on Logic
NBS the way he talks about Cole reminds me of how Micheal Scott use to talk about Toby on the office.
@@isaiaharmand6168That was DAMN good analogy😂similar to Toby no matter what J Cole does fantano has it in his minds he hates this dudes music it gives all the same vibes does to Toby
@@impacc4182 😂 Glad I’m not the only one who sees it
after paying attention to Fantano's stache, I'll never look at the Pizza Hut logo the same
Lmaaaaoooo
Pizzathony Huttano, best pizzas in the game
"Cole made you feel empowered, but he is not your savior" -Kendrick Lamar
Just because you told me you’re “black from the waist down” don’t mean you can start beef with every mixed rapper.
"can we have Kendrick?"
"we have Kendrick at home"
Kendrick at home:
A real Kendrick fan wouldn't compare the 2 they not even close bru post beef fan 😂😂
With Melon bringing up Kendrick so much, I can’t help but feel like Cole is always on the precipice of being super deep and introspective, but it just never fully becomes realized. Kendrick can create whole stories and narratives from different perspectives and situations not only on whole projects, but a lot of the time song to song. He a lot of the time feels like he’s playing it safe, where as Kendrick genuinely feels like he is putting damn near his all out there every time, regardless of appeal
Cole says what needs to be said, nothing less, nothing more. Kendrick masterbates publicly and forces you to watch
That’s just a comparison bias. That’s like saying Big Boi sucks because Andre3K is so amazing
@@superdupeninja8149 Agreed, they're two different artists with two different goals, but Kendrick hasn't really appealed to me for a long time personally
How is doing 3 albums in a row with zero features playing it safe
@@superdupeninja8149 never said Cole sucks. He’s right up there with Kendrick as one of my favorite rappers going. But with them occupying the same lane, and doing similar things musically, the comparisons become easy to make. Not saying either is biting off the other, just saying Cole never seems to deliver in the same way or makes quite a big mark on the game and society in general. TPAB didn’t start the BLM movement by any means but “Alright” and a lot of the problems and issues brought up in that project made it become a symbol for the whole situation. J Cole’s best attempt at that in my mind was KOD and while he did send a message about addiction and societal injustice, it never seemed fully realized. On “Friends” he quite literally suggest everyone dealing with stress and addiction just “meditate don’t medicate” and while meditation can help create balance and calm the mind and body, it’s not the fucking answer.
ive been saying that J Cole has been living in Kendrick's shadow his entire career since I was like 11
Cole been in the game longer than Kendrick he gave Kendrick a career
@ right he initially jump started Kendrick's career but after kendrick took off he became the weaker of the two
“711 was an inside job “🤣 5:53
Nah, 5:52
obligatory "investigate 311" comment
@@FuryXDMGSbased based
7:37 my hack tells me.... 911 did 911....
This is like a father basically saying to his younger child “Why can’t you be more like him?!” and pointing to the elder child.
It's actually other way around cause Kendrick is younger than cole lol
All that without even having to talk about the "fart" bars
No way theneedledrop hated j cole for 13 minutes straight
Man have I got a video for you
@@itsallenwowMan do you have a video for him!
@@Satire_Filmz Man, does that guy have a video for him!
13 minutes straight for 13 years straight lmao
Man do I want this video
Who’s here after he gave cole yet ANOTHER low score😭 3?!?
I haven't heard Mr. Nice Watch in at least 6 years. That being said, the instant Anthony said it sounds like a throwaway from Watch the Throne I saw what he was saying
While I like me some Cole, I kind of get what Fantano is saying. People hype up Cole so much like this greater than life dope conscious rapper, but I feel he falls short of the hype most of the time. And he absolutely does love rapping about himself and how woke and dope he is. I think the problem are his Stans.
I totally agree that he isn’t TOP TOP notch like he himself or his fans like to point out every minute lmao.
Stop
😂😂😂
Cole is the best rapper a normal human being can listen to
Freddie Gibbs, Rtj, Denzel, Aesop, Clipping, Kanye, even Drake, these are all rappers I can name from the top of my dome that had a much better discography than j Cole past decade, dude is washed
@@MlungiseleniMthethwanuh uh
This aged well wtf.
I mean… it do be a Cole world 😳
Aged well
right lol
It did because his diss was lame
@@stergiospapakonstantinou8574diss was fire
Nah he himself said it was goofy@@treboleekem499
Was it now 🤔@@stergiospapakonstantinou8574
Cole is like if Logic was black
PLS😂
Logic is good
Yo the old outro gave me goosebumps
Can't wait to see the comments after Grippy
I love how the "if only you were as smart or enlightened or amazing as me" crowd naturally gravitated to J. Cole as that crowd of faux-intellectual egotists would in fact naturally gravitate towards him.
wtf are you you on about
Your not wrong here but ngl you sound like one of those faux intellectuals
@@elfpi55-bigB0O85it makes sense
It's the same with Kendrick too though
Oops I triggered the J. Cole fans into throwing a fit
I love Cole but I do agree that none of his albums line up to his potential.
We’ve heard what he can do on a feature or on some specific songs but his albums are just not of that quality
he not wrong.
Time reveals all. In 09…I was in awe of Cole. Mainly bc I found him relatable. And the music was good with the potential of being great. Now as an adult…I hardly ever listen to anything J Cole. There’s nothing new to him. What u see is what u get.
the off season??? that shit was more than fresh, flows off there are insane.
@@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 yea. I listen to that album once and never heard it again. Nothing on it moved me.
j cole’s always been that tho. Nice flows but little bars, world play or structure to his songs
@@papayasmithlittle word play or bars but good at telling a story.
I love the new shift of content Mr. Anthony! 13 minutes of mcdonalds mukbang in the parking lot with Jeffrey Coleman isn't really expected from you.
It’s hilarious how all the comments from 10 months ago are complaining about he keeps knocking down Cole to glaze Kendrick and it’s aged so well after recent events. I understand Fantano can have some horrible takes but he’s always been spot on about Cole.
Fantano praising Kendrick for 13 minutes.
As he should
of course I get recommended this after the Kendrick Diss and J Cole's mediocre response/diss track
It's not necessarily mediocre, it's a warning shot for warning shot.
As kendrick only had 1 or 2 bars for cole, I feel this was perfect response to send .
@@satvikkhandagale6781 idk, he made a what.. over 3 minute diss track as a warning shot? when Kendrick said maybe 2 lines referring to Cole, what Kendrick did is what I'd call warning shots, 1 or 2 shots, what Cole did was empty an entire mag, and none of his shots hit, and so he called em warning shots
@@yalldumb2387 1 month later + the apology from J.Cole, I think you’re absolutely right. Cole should’ve just throwing a few bars at Kendrick just for the sake of competition and it would have been alright, but he stretched this shit out and came up with this whole diss, spitting bullshit that he himself doesn’t believe. Apologizing was the right thing, but he shouldn’t have come up with that long diss in the first place.
out of all things i have expected, i did not expect to watch fantano with al qaddafi in the background hating jcole at the beginning of a video.
Kendrick is the real version of what J Cole stans delusionally think Cole is
He is actually better tho
@@Jcolecolej bro it's not even close... You can like Cole, that's cool. You can vibe to him more, relate more to his music or whatever...
Don't try and act like he is actually a better artist tho... It's an argument you're just never gonna win 😂
@@onetwo8847 you seem too biased to have an argument with anyways
@@Jcolecolej tell me why he's better...
@@onetwo8847Look at his username and consider that he's the one who called you biased. He's either trolling or just intensely lacks self awareness.
I love "Let Nas Down" but his take on it is so correct lmao.
He is drooling on Kendrick's appendage for 13 minutes
As we all should
@@isdisgudnam I will never not drool on Kendrick's appendage
it’s impossible to talk about Cole without talking about Kendrick. Cole fills every musical niche that Kendrick does but worse 😂 and the sales show it and the fans show it and the critics show it, Cole rides Kendrick’s wave so hard and his penis as well
@@isdisgudnamNo Kendrick sucks ew
@@isdisgudnamyeah
Jason Cole might actually be the most overrated rapper of all time no cap
Look up the definition of overrated you'll see Drake
@@lorenzoantwan nah people clown Drake all the time. As much as I like Cole his fans are the biggest dick riders on Earth. Dude can do no wrong
That would be Drake but J. Cole is honestly overrated asf in his own lane too
Jermaine is the goat
@@lorenzoantwan Drake over j Cole any day of he week he has the better pen and catalog too btw
I swear Cole is the only rapper where I feel like me and Fantano are listening to 2 different rappers. None of the point he makes abt Cole make sense to me when I dig deep and think abt it beyond a surface level
I was just thinking that right now. Idk what J cole did or said to this man, but his opinions feel more personal than critical.
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Cole is basic and maybe you’re aswell (?)
It's cuz Cole's music isn't cinematic it's radio grabs
Ironically that sounds just like Cole's music. Makes sense until you think about it beyond a surface level and realise he's a fool.
I don't hate Cole as much as he does but I definitely always thought of him as a lesser Kendrick
J cole spent his whole career doing his best Nas impression.. he doesn't measure up but he's better than just about everyone else thats mainstream rn.. he's not bad but he's not nearly as good as the media would like you to think imo
@@rawbrenaissance. 💯
@@rawbrenaissance.he’s raw stop speaking like your opinion is fact. Most of Cole haters haven’t even listened to like 1/3 of discography which includes his mixtapes which has some of his best work
I'll honestly never get why people compare J Cole and Kendrick. In literally no way is Cole anywhere near the same universe as Kendrick, but people worship the dude like he's the second coming
They get compared because some of their earlier songs share the same themes. I think thats about it. Jcole is great imo but I do agree Kendrick is better
Kendrick is better as a rapper, but Cole has a certain delivery when he gets in his story telling bag that's nearly unmatched. 4 Your Eyez Only & 2014 are loaded with songs showcasing exactly what I'm talking about.
@@jacobwitt2070 That's more personal opinion. Personally I get the same thing from Kendrick, not Cole. Kendrick is objectively a better rapper though
@@jacobwitt2070 Duckworth and Sing about me have way better story telling and delivery than anything in Cole's entire discography. Even songs on section 80 outclass some of Cole's best story telling songs.
Its because they were both lyrical rappers at a time where lyrisism was fading. In the late 2000s rap became more about how cathy the songs are. If kdot came out in the early 2000s no one would compare them
The cuts to him spewing conspiracy theorist BS is hilarious.
7/11 was an inside job 😮😮
My biggest pet prevention is he has a artist name Bas and he hypes dude up so much for no reason
Hard agree I'm a big cole fan but bas is so fucking mid if not straight up bad in a lot of his tracks
I had no idea who J.Cole was. For the longest time, I thought Fantano was talking about J.Dilla. Was wondering why he would hate on that guy!
How much of an old head are you lol.
Nice to see a thatistheplan appearance
Now we need one where u meat ride kenrick for 13 mins this basically the prequel to that
Boy do I have a video for you
Much longer than 13 minutes
This is meatriding Kendrick for 13 minutes lmao
R.I.P. JAKE HOLE
Nahhhh Jake Hole got it 😂😂😂😂
ouchhhh knowing he might be called "hole" in a diss must be keeping him up at night
Had to come back to this masterpiece of a video after that corny, wack ass apology! 🤣🤦🏼♂️
🤡
How was the apology corny? How else do you apologize 🤡🤡🤡🤡
duplee now edits for the main TNDstreams channel! Pretty cool
J Cole is genuinely like the midway point between people who think Kendrick is the best and people who think Logic is the best...
He is so many levels below
Who tf saying logic is the best😂😂
@@williamthegeckowallace3573 He has his fanboys, believe it or not lol. They're delusional...
He is many many levels above
@@GrimyApple2 no... Lol. People who say this are exposing themselves
Honestly, I agree with him, I do not like J. Cole but during high school, I use to force myself to listen to him because all my friends liked him once I actually went through his discography there wasn't anything aside from a few songs I liked.
Really? I used to like Kendrick so much and always though Ken was better , but now I really only come back to j cole. Listen to kod all the time and
@@WyWidI think Cole just has more mass appeal because his raps are simpler, and he uses more melodies. I love Kendrick but his lyrical miracle jazzy raps aren’t for everyone
@@chefsweaty6744by your logic most people should be of the opinion that j cole is better because he'd have much more fans than Kendrick but that's not the case so your statement must be wrong.
@@tbsLuke he is talking about the average joe, not an anthony fantano youtube comment section where most people act snobby about lyricism and criticize and analyze music more than the average person. I prefer Kendrick but i think jcole is more digestible for most people, like TPAB is very jarring and can take multiple listens to truly enjoy
I think J Coles best album by far was 4 Your Eyes Only, very consistent album while I agree with Fantano on Coles other releases were largely choppy. Kendrick? You can make an argument that TPAB is better than GKMC or Vice versa. However, I will say my favorite song from Cole by far is “4 your eyez only” while my favorite from Kendrick is “sing about me/dying of thirst”. I find myself coming back to 4 your eyez more often than sing about me
"Jason Coleman" you wild bruh 😂
it cracks me up that immediately after the Kendrick Drake beef, j Cole released Grippy and we were all just like “…well. it’s been a crazy year and he dodged that K dot bullet by the skin of his teeth. It’s probably just survivors guilt he’ll be back”
I’m baffled at how massive of a hit Wet Dreamz was. Even when I was a virgin that song made me cringe to my core, and now that I’m not a virgin it makes me cringe 10x more. Whenever I listen to FHD I instantly skip that song the second it comes on.
When i was a kid and didn't understand the lyrics I really liked it cuz of the production. Now that I am able to understand the lyrics different story
People cringe for 2 reasons 1 cause something isnt realistic or 2 because something is to realistic
trippin that song is crazy good.
fym that song is beautiful yeah it’s kinda corny that’s the point it’s capturing his adolescence and innocence
it's corny but it's a good song ngl
I liked it when he kept making fun of j cole
13 minutes ?
Wow that’s impressive
"m on your head, you Luigi brother now"
Any other rapper says this and it would go unnoticed or made fun of. With J Cole his fans swear it's one of the most fire bars ever. He's overrated.
I agree he’s overrated but That bar wasn’t bad. Now if you used that fart bar he had then yea i would agree.
I think that bar worked for that song bc of the way he delivered it. Sometimes, corny bars hit lol
No overrated is Drake, Carti, kdot basically 99% of the rap game
As he should
Respectfully disagree
Bruh he called the track little D energy 😂…I didn’t even realize he didn’t like Cole THIS much like DAYMN😂😂😂😂
"Seven Eleven was an inside jooooob!"😂😂😂
Who else is here after the Kendrick diss on J Cole?
Here after the response
@@Brickbrickbrickinthewallhere after it all
Cole has some bangers. Songs i go back to constantly but he prob isn't even top 25 in terms of the goat's
Exactly. When people put him side by side with Kendrick I give them a bombastic side eye, but I get it, they're contemporaries, though unlike Kendrick, Cole can play it safe most of the times whereas Kendrick somehow never misses the opportunity to challenge the listener, even when trying to get commercial appeal (DAMN). J Cole is like a lite version of Nas
@@arseeoliveira6934 People like to play up J Cole's lyricism and versatility. Yeah he has some catchy songs and some decent bars but like you said, next to people like kendrick he's absolutely blown out of the water in terms of hits, lyricism, versatility and just sound. Which is why i hate when people compare them. Maybe its just nostalgia for some people and maybe its bc i have none for him, but to me he's just barely decent bc he can be really corny sometimes
@@arseeoliveira6934 I hate this take because in a world post 2014 FHD, Cole chose to make 4YEO. An album so antithetical to the modern hip hop sound it might as well be a different genre. What mainstream acts are creating records as intimate, quiet, and deeply felt as Cole is?!
I listen to a song like SHE'S MINE and all I think is, "This is so sincere, it's almost embarrassing. It's like hearing someone freestyle a lullaby to their baby while in the privacy of their own home. No one makes music this absolutely revealing, at least not at his level." Even if you don't like that record, it's such a rigorously constructed and cohesive bit of self-reflection and honesty that I don't see how ppl see it as playing it safe.
Playing it safe would have been more soul samples, more charismatic flow shifts, and more big records like NO ROLE MODELZ. But none of that is there, it's literally the exact opposite...
@@iansmart4158 Jesus Christ you're defending Cole on every top comment here. I mean respect, but chill.
Not even top 25??? Who tf other 24 rappers besides Kdot are b4 Cole!? You buggin, cole like top 10
Every teenager and shallow 20-year-old with low self esteem is gonna come for your head for hating on Black Mackelmore, Melon. Watch out!
Blacklemore 🤔
Bro 💀💀💀
Listen
He hates on Cole for the same reason anyone who isn't a stan does. If we're cutting the bullshit and being honest cole is just Ok. Mid. Average to maybe slightly above average. His music is rarely something to write home about. Which is all forgiveable. It's the way his fans hype him up like he's fuckin Socrates and his music is hard to understand. And now he's starting to buy into it himself. His fan base makes me hate him more than his actual music does
4:13 J cole does this way too much
The next one I want to see is him hating on The National
I know the band’s not his cup of tea, but the way he expresses his meh-ness towards’em is well-prepared
I’d like to see compilations of him trashing artists in genres other than hip hop in general. That’d be a lot of content
omg that j cole kendrick collab video he made is fucking hilarious
cole world 😢
LMAO this what i open youtube recommended to
didnt even know fantano was hating on cole that much
Casual
Totally forgot about snow on the bluff
3:50 Anthony needs to make a distrack like Control.
The "before my very eyes / should come as no surprise," is such a wild criticism. Bro really had it out for Cole.
no internal rhymes no double entendre, no new information, it’s just a clear example of a bad line to prove his point 😂 his rapping weak
He would be drooling if Kendrick said it. Fantano and his fans just some weird band kids
@@DINKLEBERG12Kendrick wouldn’t say it though😂
@@DINKLEBERG12because Kendrick can fucking write
@@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928 nah he’s right you Kendrick 🍆🚲ers are so hypocritical of Cole it’s weird
It's kinda funny because every rapper around J Cole(rappers he inspired, peers, rappers he was inspired by) tend to out class him in at least one of his focuses minimum. He's super overrated.
Kinda hard to really give Cole a chance after that lame Noname diss... like he's made she made a point but because it "rubbed him the wrong way" (tone policing) he had to say something like that.
"7/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB" is perfect
13 minutes spitting straight facts
You Kendrick 🍆🚲are strange
in his defense cole is the most overrated rapper of all time
fantano hating one of my favorite rappers for 13 or however making mf minutes 😂😂😂
I love the GMOD beat tho, that's for sure...
Seems like a true cole fan
I used to be a Cole super fan after 2014 forest hills drive. And then his newer albums got just plain boring to me and eh. Now I escaped and yes he’s overrated to me. But he’s not bad. I never go back to his music anymore 😂. Video hilarious though 😭
At least you’re honest 🤣😅
This aged well at this point
this aged so well
Cole said it the best himself in snow on tha bluff, he knows he's not yet actually doing enough to be anything other than a mainstream successful rapper
Gotyogirltossinmysalad
here after the kendrick verse
I always felt like cole is such a plain middle of the road rapper. The most basic people I know listen to Cole
You decide who's basic and who isn't?
@@JohnMushitu almost like that's his opinion
I feel the same exact way
The most basic people I meet often think everyone else is basic.
@@goblin672no he said it as almost like he thinks it's a fact. F*ck off wit that "their opinion" BS
I’ve finally seen how corny j Cole is after everything these last few days.
We must be listening to 2 different people