The PROBLEM With Changli?! Queen Of Fusion Will Be BROKEN Soon?! | Wuthering Waves

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  • @ClearlyNotBuer
    @ClearlyNotBuer วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    if she's the queen, encores the princess, and chixias a knight that hasn't met their prime potential yet, and then there's the mad scientist.

    • @Gelogi-h4m
      @Gelogi-h4m วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fusion prism : allow me to introduce myself your highness

    • @EXTRA_WAVY
      @EXTRA_WAVY 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Gelogi-h4m 😆😆😭😭

  • @kp9894
    @kp9894 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    0:57 This part is crazy 💀💀💀

    • @uboiyy1031
      @uboiyy1031 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      LOL

    • @tourment2381
      @tourment2381 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I was caught so off guard when I saw that 😂

    • @RaySolus
      @RaySolus วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@tourment2381 bro same 🤣 I was like DAT ASS moment a perfect cut

  • @frianoMontez
    @frianoMontez วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Changli is quickswap queen. She don't need any designated partner. She is shotgun damage rather than nuke, shotgun got two barrels and she got two big damage.

  • @DeJaVu804
    @DeJaVu804 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think I saw awhile back that Changli and Encore quick swap team has the highest damage potential even compared to Jinhsi teams. So she is already good.

    • @Zer0Perplexity
      @Zer0Perplexity วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah people are trying to treat her like a traditional DPS where she shines in quick swap. Jinhsi + Changli was and still is among the top teams as well, competing with Jinhsi + Zhezhi.

  • @TC102
    @TC102 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Changli pros for f2p!
    1. Signature not needed
    2. Pairs well with just Chixia!
    3. Savings tons of pulls

  • @mcbx3d
    @mcbx3d วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The curious part it's that even without a dedicated second fusion dps, in CN speedruns at S0R1 level, Changli it's one of the Characters that you see most in their TOP 10 fastest clears, the first it's SK and Changli's the second.
    Using Changli in the place of Zhezhi and Yinlin normally have faster clears. Jinhsi + Changli have faster clears than Jinhsi + Zhezhi. Encore + Changli and Encore + Sanhua have more or less the same clear time it's normally the fastest team right after the Jinhsi teams. Xiangli Yao + Changli normally the team after the Encore teams, Jiyan have more or less the same clear time than Changli + Xiangli Yao.
    Other thing that I noticed it's that Changli + Sanhua are normally faster than with Zhezhi, since Sanhua's rotation is faster and she's better to quickswap. And Yinlin it's not a character that you normally see in the top 10 teams, Calcharo and Xiangli Yao have better clears playing together as quickswap dual dps or with Changli/Jinhsi, than with Yinlin.

    • @Zer0Perplexity
      @Zer0Perplexity วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah Yinlin's buff pretty much locks your to a character for the duration, which can be pretty bad on Calcharo and Xiangli Yao since they have long animations. So being able to swap cancel them makes them deal so much more effective DPS.

  • @entaro7353
    @entaro7353 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    "Problem"? What's wrong with her? Still top pyro DPS with great sub DPS potential and FTP friendly weapon, she's good.

    • @lms8217
      @lms8217 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Top pyro? She the only pyro worth mentioning 😂

    • @Neil29011
      @Neil29011 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      It's fusion bro not pyro 😭

    • @ganyumaindayone1112
      @ganyumaindayone1112 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@lms8217 encore hit like a truck too though

    • @chloejeon1133
      @chloejeon1133 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@lms8217encore is nuts, especially with yinlin’s signature weapon. She’s def up there with the top dps

    • @entaro7353
      @entaro7353 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Neil29011 I don't care bro, let say fire

  • @obeliskt1024
    @obeliskt1024 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    9:53 massive indeed.

    • @AimanZQ
      @AimanZQ วันที่ผ่านมา

      men of culture

  • @WanshiLucidDreamer
    @WanshiLucidDreamer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Screw everything. I didn't pull her because of her damage or the way she looks. I pulled Changli cuz I liked her playstyle and I will pull future characters as long as I enjoy them.
    I skipped Jinhsi cuz her playstyle was so slow and boring for me to play with even after Jinhsi is such a well written character cuz the thing is when I'm gonna play the game, with a specific character... I'll look for fun, not story.
    Also as long as you have a little to average skills, you can clear any endgame with Changli relatively easy.

    • @thevip8837
      @thevip8837 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Based

    • @redsnowtk1678
      @redsnowtk1678 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Jinhsi slow??.😅 4 - 5 secs..

    • @ECB-SanjayReddy
      @ECB-SanjayReddy วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@redsnowtk1678 He meant to get her forte stacks.

    • @WanshiLucidDreamer
      @WanshiLucidDreamer วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ECB-SanjayReddy No I meant speed of her overall animations. I just prefer fast paced combat that's all

    • @WanshiLucidDreamer
      @WanshiLucidDreamer วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@redsnowtk1678 Just look at Lee Hyperreal or Alpha Crimson Weave gameplay and you'll get what I'm talking about 😅

  • @rey-qg2yc
    @rey-qg2yc วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is just a theory... what if they drop a liberation focused fusion dps capable of buffing skill damage... that would be so broken...

    • @Zer0Perplexity
      @Zer0Perplexity วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The issue with that is it would make her punished for quick swapping. Quick swapping increases her DPS by over 5x on those particular abilities due to her long animations.
      If she got one that buffed her, she would have to find a way to either reach full concerto without popping her Forte & Liberation (so it's buffed), which would be a loss in DPS in itself due to having to hold it. The only way it would be a benefit is if there's a DPS that's released that has a passive similar to Jinhsi that gives access to multiple Outros.

    • @rey-qg2yc
      @rey-qg2yc วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @Zer0Perplexity we just have to find out, the chef's in wuwa are very adept at cooking

  • @Matsmellwood
    @Matsmellwood 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Honestly, a perfect fusion dps that pairs with Changli, would have an outro that boosts the support in some way

    • @dplayer2693
      @dplayer2693 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So a second changli?

    • @Matsmellwood
      @Matsmellwood วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dplayer2693 Im not sure Changli boosts her Verina/Shorekeeper very much? :D

    • @dplayer2693
      @dplayer2693 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Matsmellwood oh you meant the healer.
      Changli buffs shorekeepers enhanced intro but that's about it.

    • @joaomarcoscosta4647
      @joaomarcoscosta4647 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I think a perfect fusion DPS to pair with Changli would be a "Liberation DMG based" burst DPS that can do their full rotation withim Changli's 10s buff window. (Which, for some reason, is shorter than all other outro buffs in the game)
      And possibly someone whose forte ability synergises with Changli somehow. (Similar to how JInhsi synergyses with coordinated attackers, maybe they will release a character whose forte gauge can be charged when a party member deals skill damage or something? I don't know.)

    • @joaomarcoscosta4647
      @joaomarcoscosta4647 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dplayer2693 Well, 80% of SK'sdamage comes from her enhanced intro, so there is that.
      But... It's true that SK's main role isn't her ability to deal damage. ^^;
      Seriously, though, I'm not sure how a character that "buffs buffers" would work. I mean, unless you are counting characters that boost survivability (which which benefits the whole team) energy batteries, or some form of Cooldown reduction or buff extension skills...
      Now that I think about it, a character whose outro skill charges the next concerto energy and reduces the following character's cooldowns by 5s or something, speeding up rotations, could work, althought it might be a bit hard to balance.
      It also risks taking away from one of the things that set WuWa's combat system appart from other gachas. (The fact that, due to how the concerto and forte systems work, you have to actually play most characters for a couple of seconds, instead of just taping the skill/ult buttoms and switching out like Genshin or something.)
      Still, the idea of a DPS who makes buffers more effective is kinda interesting.

  • @dankwolf442
    @dankwolf442 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chixia with static mist. Let’s go!!

  • @ozoahameg3582
    @ozoahameg3582 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    lots of people didnt realized that her playstyle revolves around quickswap
    her overall solo damage is only comparable to jiyan and thats without his grouping
    but when placed in a quicswap team she lietrally can pull her own weight and in some cases have betetr performance than an off field attacker like yinlin and zhezhi (especially against bosses that moves alot, like the new ToA, fallacy of no return) unless your a whale your not 3 starring that room unless you got changli, she sticks to that boss like stank on sh1t

  • @feralchimaera99
    @feralchimaera99 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's mostly the player's adaptability when playing her. If the player don't have the patience and can't adapt well with her playstyle that's gonna be on the player, using her and Yangyang is an early set of learning how to use quick swap then pairing Changli and Zhezhi makes both of their playstyle ridiculously all over the place due to their flexibility and kiting.
    First impression of her dealing lower dmg than Jinhsi sullied her reputation and it also was due to meta players pushing their meta agenda, Having a kit that's rooted for dual dps and quick swap, And her skill ceiling being higher than Jinhsi. Also let's be honest Jinhsi was made for convenience specially with her sig weapon.
    Sine we're still few in numbers with the playable roster any team is a good team, assuming they'll follow through what PGR had to powercreep the 0~1 year roster we'll likely see the powercreep around 1.5~2 years of the game's life

  • @Darshe0
    @Darshe0 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Changli is the best sub for Jinshi, Yao, Calcharo, and valid for every other dps, she is already the best sub in the game

  • @fadephantasm1301
    @fadephantasm1301 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Technically speaking from her outro skill..she's a sub-dps/support.
    She have big multipliers, yeah, but thats also yhe reason you build her as sub-dps/support for chixia or encore...you build her with moonlight and would still put some big numbers, and with that..buffs your nxt fusion.

  • @M-hl2qs
    @M-hl2qs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    she more like sub dps i think .. its just the nuke fussion dps not yet appear to pair with changli .

    • @baralidasan1487
      @baralidasan1487 วันที่ผ่านมา

      and that fusion nuker is geshu lin 🤣

  • @av3_ther
    @av3_ther วันที่ผ่านมา

    Changli is super fun to play, she’s always on my team and my most used character. Glad I invested in her and got her signature!

  • @weskerredfield5176
    @weskerredfield5176 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Changli + Xiangli is isane

  • @xcoder5692
    @xcoder5692 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they release a support with energy regen making changli rotation more optimized then yeah she has alot of potential as sub dps

  • @pfortunato78
    @pfortunato78 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So many people are sleeping on using Yangyang with Changli. Yangyang completely obviates Changli's downtime. You will never have to normal attack on Changli because your burst will constantly be up. And with Yangyang at C6 and built up, she can put out well over 100K dmg by herself (even using Moonlit) in a few seconds, applies a ton of buffs and builds concerto as fast as Sanhua. You do not need to only use quickswap dual dps to make Changli great. Yangyang is her lowkey best subdps support for those that want a more traditional playstyle instead of learning all the proper quickswap moments and micro-managing concerto.

  • @samanthaparker3261
    @samanthaparker3261 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Changli is the only limited character I haven't managed to snag and I am SO sad about it every day. And Encore is the only standard 5* I can't seem to get, so I'm without a 5* fusion character.💀

    • @dankwolf442
      @dankwolf442 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@samanthaparker3261 Get Changli on the rerun. She has amazing AOE damage. I use her when killing over world enemies with ease, not to mention killing an entire rock colony with her special attack 😀

  • @ClearlyNotBuer
    @ClearlyNotBuer วันที่ผ่านมา

    pretty sure encore is changlis bis for supporting since encore already has high dps uptime and fully uses changlis skill

  • @Tomil4444
    @Tomil4444 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cailing zhezhi dedicated support for jinshi is like calling the changli dedicated support for encore :v use half of the buff is not near like in case where we have yinlin and xiangli yao if zhezhi buff spectro instead of glacio jinshi e dragon can hit even beyond 500k where 400k now is current her avrage dragon nuke

  • @Bullminator
    @Bullminator วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Changli in lore wears no clothes at all. All her clothing is made out of fire.

    • @earthlingx5267
      @earthlingx5267 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Always ready for segs 🔥

  • @pramanakumalaputra507
    @pramanakumalaputra507 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Eh, there is no problem with Changli. She is perfectly fine in quickswap team.
    Changli is one of most versatile character. She can be played with Jinhsi, Xiangli Yao, Calcharo, Encore, Sanhua, Yangyang, Chixia, Rover, etc.
    As long as you are good in playing quickswap, Changli is literally a S tier character that actually outperform Yinlin in her best team which is Xiangli Yao and Calcharo.
    The problem with Yinlin is her damage is really low which makes her main DPS like Calcharo or XY must depends on Yinlin buff to compesate Yinlin low damage.
    Because of Yinlin low damage, Changli Xiangli Yao and Calcharo Changli actually performs better compared to Yinlin Xiangli Yao and Yinlin Calcharo.
    This happens because Calcharo and Xiangli Yao are really decent in swap cancel which makes them a good teammate for Changli. Losing Changli buff doesn't really matter becuase Changli has high damage which results in higher team DPS by quickswapping unlike Yinlin that has low damage
    But of course, if you're going to stick in Hypercarry team, Yinlin is still usable. It just won't be better than Changli.

  • @multiburst5444
    @multiburst5444 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im still sad i lost 50/50 with her. i hope she reruns soon

  • @AviX-25
    @AviX-25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Idk about others but she buff my C6 chixia 150k lib dmg and with C2 Changli paired with shorekeeper she has 100% crit 210k lib dmg with forte 80k she is the most valuable Character just need 130 energy regen

  • @hphunter
    @hphunter วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Are you allergic to numbers? Trying to compare characters while avoiding math can be entertaining but ultimately it is futile effort.

    • @oldeyenoughy
      @oldeyenoughy วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      she does better than all sub dps, plus if you want you can play her as a dps that's insane value, my yinlin can't be played as a dps and compared to changli's numbers... imma have to pull her and wait for the future fusion dps, which will not be coming any time soon,

  • @jmcMateo
    @jmcMateo วันที่ผ่านมา

    She looks like she's on fire

  • @Ilyesync
    @Ilyesync วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fusion rover when

  • @gameplayer-_-227
    @gameplayer-_-227 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think it was a great decision for them to release jinhsi before changli not after, just because with how people like to slander the game, they would've totally gotten called out for power creep lol, even tho jinhsi is supposed to be a selfish main dps hypercarry while changli *can* be a main dps with enough investment but has support capability built into her kit making her playstyle more quick swap oriented and supportive really hope she gets a limited main dps fusion she can really make shine in the future too tho 👍

  • @voidwalker8430
    @voidwalker8430 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm thinking about skipping everything to get her and her sig on rerun (I'm new and I only have two teams)

  • @BloodyVeel
    @BloodyVeel วันที่ผ่านมา

    She is a sub DPS if you talk about meta that what she is ! Numbers and everything Nothing more nothing less !
    She is a sub DPS quickswap Character ! She in not Main DPS Character !
    Havoc Rover Skill % are 200/300% higher .Simple bacause H Rover its Main DPS ! Stop with complains when you cannnot read english !
    It was stated 2 months before even Changli was Released !

  • @rx71102
    @rx71102 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too bad Chixia and Encore are better Fusion main DPS characters. Changli looks really good at least

  • @ZerefCifer707
    @ZerefCifer707 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want her so bad man

  • @PurleyMarc
    @PurleyMarc วันที่ผ่านมา

    I skipped the magistrate so i dont see the problem... i pulled changli 🤣🤣

  • @BoredDior
    @BoredDior วันที่ผ่านมา

    I spent 140 pulls on Changli and didn’t get her😢

  • @pisang11
    @pisang11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Idk why im getting only 50k damage with all the buff i gave her in abyss, my team rover havoc, shorekeeper and changli. Is it normal tho ?

    • @arkabarma3286
      @arkabarma3286 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ur buffing her with only shorekeeper. 50k on the big Forte hit means about 70-80k total on forte and I'm guessing about 90k on ur ulti. Doesn't sound bad tbh. Ur not hyperbuffing Changli in ur rover-changli team so don't expect her to drop hypercarry numbers.
      If u do wanna run her hypercarry, ur best bet is zhezhi, Sanhua(just for the fast outro and 4x set) and yangyang. Which still none are exactly optimal. Still 4x moonlit set buffs are pretty noticeable

    • @pisang11
      @pisang11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@arkabarma3286 nope 50k is me resonance lib 🫠

    • @pisang11
      @pisang11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @arkabarma3286 nope 50k is me resonance lib 🫠, my forte can only deals 15k ish. In abyss tho, I don't have any problem in overworld

    • @iulian8628
      @iulian8628 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I need more data to draw a conclusion: Crit Rate & Damage, Skill Dmg, Lib Dmg, Level, and Weapon.

  • @painx.oo6
    @painx.oo6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    will she come back again i mean return ?

  • @karvenus14ravichandran
    @karvenus14ravichandran 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is that location and how do you get there?

    • @HAHAImAWeetod
      @HAHAImAWeetod 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you're talking about where I think you're talking it's in the story quest for black shores with shorekeeper

    • @cckiller4378
      @cckiller4378 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      At the piano at the black sores, interact with it and you'll see

    • @earthlingx5267
      @earthlingx5267 วันที่ผ่านมา

      finish 1.3 main questline + interact with the piano

  • @ExDik1
    @ExDik1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My Changli can do 500k dmg in event

  • @joaomarcoscosta4647
    @joaomarcoscosta4647 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Putting aside how Jinhsi warped everyone's expectations for a DPS... I think Changli's 2 main issues remain the same since her release:
    1) The lack of a fully synergistic partner
    2) She doesn't fit neatly into a traditional hypercarry comp.
    If you plan on using Changli primarely as a buffer/sub-DPS, she is "objetively" worse than Yinlin and Zhezhi, and arguibly even 4*s like Sanhua and Mortefi. (Changli has the shortest outro buff duration in the game, takes more time to charge her concerto energy than all other characters listed, and has no coordinated attacks.) Her damage output isn't bad, but takes more field time to do a full rotation compared to traditional sub-DPS, and if you are pairing Changli with a traditional main DPS there will be no one to buff her, so damage per field-time ratio is kinda mediocre. On top of that, other than maybe Chixia, there aren't any characters hwo take full advantage of both her fusion and liberation buffs. (Even when paired with Encore, the team's overall DPS falls a bit short compared to Encore + Sanhua - at least when comparing an s6 Sanhua to a s0 Changli.)
    And as a main DPS, her damage is good when compared to most standard characters, but... DPS characters are more prone to powercreep, and she already falls a bit short compared to other limited characters, since she can't really compete with Jinhsi's DMG, nor she has some unique gimick that makes your life easier like Jiyan's ability to group enemies or Xiangli Yao's time manipulation. Not to mention the lack of a fully synergistic sub-DPS, of course. (It's possible that sooner or later she will get a great sub-DPS, but who knows what will be the state of the meta by then.)
    She does great on quicky-swapy dual DPS comps, though it's worth mentioning that the it requires much higher skill to pull of the same damage numbers as other limited DPS characters, without necessarily being able to perform "better" than them. (Unless there is a stage buff that specifically benefits her.)
    Well, she is one of the most fun characters to play though, and endgame content aside, she is fantastic in the overworld. (Since she doesn't rely as much on her ultimate as Xiangli Yao or Jiyan, nor is her damage is backloaded as Jinhsi. Plus, good mobility thanks to her aerial attacks and synergy with th eInferno Rider.)

  • @mrzeed5870
    @mrzeed5870 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Changli+sanhua+sk destroy mid toa

  • @zantou_namakura
    @zantou_namakura วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can't believe someone actually praised Changli's outro skill when it is in fact one of the main reason she is considered Lackluster.
    This video reeks of the type of analysis vids quickly pumped out for algorithm/clickbaits without doing proper research, tricking people with lies.
    First of all, Her Outro Skill buffs potency is the same as Zhezhi and Yinlin, BUT duration is 4s shorter then theirs.
    Let that sink in, that itself is already unfairly underpowered. Yet u praised that? lmao
    Secondly, while she has outro skill of a sub-dps, her concerto energy generation speed is lower than those two, again, weaker.
    Not only is her outro skill is worse, it's also less spammable.
    Changli concerto energy generation speed is closer to that of a main dps.
    Then, her prowess as main dps? Obviously weaker than Jinshi in term of raw power.
    But not only weaker in raw power, she is harder, riskier, AND take longer animations.
    Not only are the animations long, it also has no super armor.
    (Similar with XiangliYao, but his passive solved itself for him, also he can even slow targets)
    Changli need C1 to even solve her problem of animations easily interrupted.
    Honestly she is less rewarding to play than most main dps.
    Finally, you mentioned she doesnt have a good partner? look again.
    There is Chixia who has perfect synergy to her outro and quickswap playstyle.
    But then what's the problem? She is 4*. and 4* here has way lower base ATK than 5* chara.
    The disparity of Base ATK of 4* and 5* in WuWa is even bigger than in Genshin.
    Causing some people reluctant in building 4* dps resonators, since their limit is noticeably low. get them to S5 at least compete.
    Won't write more than this as you prob get my points.
    Next time put more thoughts into the video contents, compare in broader picture, analyze deeper.
    Don't just praise blindly and tricking people to only pretty stuffs.
    We already have enough politicians doing that

  • @araujoas
    @araujoas วันที่ผ่านมา

    Probably Scar.

  • @ThoughtlessSage
    @ThoughtlessSage วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well i tried all support buff just to support changli the highest dmg i made is 800k + while on jinshi i made .1.3 m ... Jinshi is just straight up nuke
    Ps they were all S0

  • @dragonkus6934
    @dragonkus6934 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I just use changli/Yelin works for me 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @DeJaVu804
    @DeJaVu804 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I think I saw awhile back that Changli and Encore quick swap team has the highest damage potential even compared to Jinhsi teams. So she is already good.

    • @Zer0Perplexity
      @Zer0Perplexity วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's comparable to Encore + Sanhua, but requires much more effort. I still do enjoy her on any quick swap team.

    • @phftheebonidiot637
      @phftheebonidiot637 วันที่ผ่านมา

      im playing them together with shorekeeper now.

    • @dislikebutton8979
      @dislikebutton8979 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@phftheebonidiot637Me too. Bros just like me fr