Which conference has the most national championships since 2000? The SEC. And don’t even say, “It’s Bama and everyone else,” because if you take Bama out, the SEC still has the most with seven. Auburn and Georgia each have one, Florida has two, and LSU has three. Stop kidding yourselves. The SEC is the best conference. End of story.
@@mikeallen312 what do you mean wrong, he's right, the SEC has dominated football the last 20 years not only that, SEC players have dominated the NFL as well by far , miles ahead of other conferences especially Alabama and look at Georgia drafts last season, the SEC has more players and starters than all other conferences combined, under SABAN BAMA alone has more players, starters and first round draft picks than anyone, BAMA leads in all three categories after that the NFL is primarily SEC players as a whole no other conference is close , OSU has made a little noise but nowhere close to SEC players in
Keyshawn talking smack because he needed to give the Big10 a voice. The Big10 will definitely be very prestigious, but there is nothing wrong with being the #2 conf in prestige.
The argument always makes me laugh when people try to say Bama and no one else in the SEC. If you take out all of Alabama's titles since the bowl system ended (starting 1998) the SEC has a total of 8 titles from 6 different schools. Other conferences are ACC with 4 (Miami's didn't count because it was in the Big East at the time), B1G with 2 (both OSU), Pac with 2 (Both USC), Big 12 with 2. Just facts here.... no opinions.
Not only that, in the last 17 years the SEC has won the Title 4 times in a row (2007-10) and 3 times in a row (2019-21) with both of those particular groupings having no repeat schools per group... 2007-10: LSU, UF, Bama, Auburn 2019-21: LSU, Bama, UGA There's a metric out there (blue chip ratio) that accurately predicts which teams are capable of winning the Natty. If a team consists of at least 50% 4 and 5 star players, they're considered capable of winning a Natty. This has been almost 100% accurate for many years, even down to who can make the playoffs. Talent acquisition is the name of the game. The SEC has 6 of the 15 teams in that criteria, and 4 of those are in the SEC West alone. Auburn's on that list and their over/under betting win total is only ~5.5 - that's how brutal being in the SEC West is. The Big10 - widely considered the 2nd best conference - only has 3 teams. All the anti-SEC arguments are casual, unsubstantiated ones.
The better response is take out Saban and Urban, since they proved they can build programs at two schools. Mind you Les won a title with Saban players. That’s 10 titles right there. Cam Newton 2010, LSU 2019, had two of the greatest college players ever too! I’m a USC fan so haven’t had much love for the Big 10 but lest be real divisions have been the biggest hindrance to the Big 10. 2014-2017 there were multiple years if Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan state we’re not in the same Divison they too would have had two teams in the playoffs. The SEC East being a joke has really helped the conference.
@@Drummajortsu With this "silly" argument, it means ACC would have to take out Dabo and Jimbo, PAC12 needs to take out Carrol and Kelly, B12 takes out Stoops and Brown, B1G takes out Urban and Schembeckler. Which leaves the other conferences with basically nothing. Even with your logic, and not even applying the "take best coaches out" to the other conferences....SEC still has 5 I believe. More than the others still. Next?
@@Drummajortsu Except as much as it conveniences you, you can't take out coaches and title runs when comparing conferences; considering the measures of success are...coaches and title runs. Lol. Talk about grasping at straws. For every year you're making an excuse for, that's a year that the Big Ten didn't win a title. So what excuse do they have?
@@GoHawgs1987 Could give two damns about conferences. Teams and their coaches win titles. What Bama & Saban eats doesn’t make Scar, Miss State, Tennessee anything. I root for a team. ✌🏿fight on!
Forget the national titles the last two decades; the SEC has led the nation in draft picks every year for the last 16 years. So even when they had 12 teams there were consecutive years they led. Seven different teams from the SEC had a first rounder last year. Half of the conference. They've had 50 top ten picks since 2009. The next closest are the ACC and Pac 12 with 21 a piece. The B1G has had 14 during that time frame. Here's the big one. Since 2010 the SEC has had 135 first round picks. The Big Ten is next, with 64... So the SEC has had more first rounders in the last twelve years than the next two conferences combined (ACC 64, B1G 64).
My question to the people who deny SEC's clear dominance: What do they know that NFL scouts don't know? Reality is that the South produces the best football players. It used to be the case that best football players from the South were evenly dived among several conferences, but ever since the mid-2000s, most of the best football players from the South choose to play in the SEC
@@BigChrisENT Yep, a lot of the best high school quarterbacks choose the SEC. My guess is that it's because the SEC is the closest thing there is to an NFL defense they can play against.
He also said he's looking at this objectively, but isn't he a USC guy? Key talks about the SEC hiding behind two teams and then is more than happy to hid behind the legacy of OSU and Michigan. Hipocracy thy name is. Lets be honest, even with the addition of USC, there is only one true perenial contender in the Big10 and thats Ohio State....sorrry THE Ohio State.
As if Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, don't compete. 😒 Key at this point just on the opposite side for personal bias. He had a better argument if he said the SEC West carries the SEC East
The SEC is clearly the more dominant football conference over the past 30+ years. On top of having more teams that have won more national titles, the SEC also has a power team in the midst of a dynastic run (Alabama/Saban Era) and usually has 5+ teams in the Top 25. But Keyshawn Johnson is right that the SEC hides behind 1 or 2 teams sometimes, as the SEC schools are not invincible and there is some mediocrity below the top teams in a given year just as there are in other conferences. You have SEC schools losing to FCS schools like Jacksonville State, Maine, East Tennessee State, and Citadel. You have other run-of-the-mill FBS schools like NC State, West Virginia, Kansas State, and Northwestern beating SEC teams in bowl games. So yes, the SEC is the dominant power, but they are still human with the average SEC team susceptible to being beaten by teams from other FBS conferences. On the other hand, the question of who is more "prestigious" is a different kind of question than who is stronger now and even not fully addressed in the clip. Prestige brings in stronger consideration to the history and tradition of a conference than just what may have happened in the past few years or decades. For example between the Big Ten and SEC, the Minnesota Golden Gophers have more national titles than all but Alabama and incoming Oklahoma in the SEC and Ohio State and incoming USC in the Big Ten (yes, even more than Michigan during the poll era and also more than Nebraska), but there is not a lot of talk about them now. On the football side, your bringing in USC & UCLA to the Big Ten and Oklahoma & Texas to the SEC and then adding those to their respective conference portfolio and history and the dimension of the question is deeper and involves consideration of what the individual schools have accomplished over time and how that impacts the perception of the conference to the football public.
Technically they were both right. The B1Gis the historically more prestigious conference if you look at the names. The SEC schools have always been looked down upon. The problem is for the last 30 years the schools from the South have been the best and most consistent performers in the CFB world. So if you're going by academic and historic football reputation, yes it's the B1G. If your going by the best and most committed football programs, especially over the last 25 years, it's the SEC,
@GG Rene I rlly wanna do some data analysis on where the most talent is, but regardless put some respect on the SEC. I always hear this same mumbo jumbo especially after an SEC team has 5 key players opt out for a bowl game, and another team beats them. Big10 has prestige if we're talking about the last 100 years. The USC UCLA merge is HUGE. Bc its the only state that even remotely rivals the hotspots of HS talent (held within the sunbelt). I wish we could have teams swap schedules just to prove a wisconsin(a program i think pretty highly of) would not win 5 games in the SEC. but I think this'll be proved with the super-conferences. In the past 20 years, i'd argue the B1G wasn't that much better than the likes of the Big12, ACC, or even PAC12. Top to bottom, yeah you could make the case they were better, but as far as 75th percentile and up, they were no more solid than any of these other conferences(i'd say ACC & Big12) in this case.
@@watchandeat4676 Yes, they can. Again, Vanderbilt, Texas, Florida, Georgia, etc. are better than the vast majority of B10 schools. Also, the AAU can’t be that impressive if schools like Kansas, Indiana, and Purdue are all members (with their joke acceptance rates). Top 100 isn’t an achievement lol. Also, the Midwest combined all of their D1 schools in one conference. The South is just so superior that we’ve had to split our D1 schools. If the SEC consolidated the South like the Midwest has the B10, then it’d also have Duke, UVA, UNC, Georgia Tech, etc.
The Big 10 depends on talent from SEC territory. Always seeing Michigan and Ohio State trying to poach in Texas, Florida. That could dry up with some of the richest schools like Texas, A&M factoring NIL. Texas is the 2nd richest school in the country only behind Harvard University.
NIL definitely changed the recruiting fortunes for some universities in Florida and Texas, but those schools still have to start developing their players into high draft picks or recruits will eventually start to look elsewhere.. Ohio State is going to get theirs regardless, they literally recruit nationwide from Ohio, Florida, Texas, Georgia, California, Arizona, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, Nevada, Washington, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, Michigan etc..
If Bama carried the SEC a conference that has won with 5 different teams. What are the Buckeyes doing being the only big 10 team to win a title since 1998 aka the only championships that matter since that’s when we started actually playing for them
College football teams always played for the national championship..The determination for who's the national champion has changed over time..You went from poll voters to Bowl Alliance to BCS to the Playoff..There were split national champions some years..I'm 34 now..I remember the Bowl Alliance, BCS, and the current Playoff..🤔🏈✔🏟💺🏆
@@fiesta061000 nooooe when polls decided the national title winner not a game winner r a tournament then no. 1998 and beyond is all that mattered. We warned you from the SEC and you didn’t listen
@@manwholaughs2477 The SEC really dominated from 2006 to present..A SEC team won the national championship in 1996, 1998, and 2003..Florida dominated the Sugar Bowl/de-facto national championship game in 1996..1998 Tennesseee and 2003 LSU both won their BCS championship games by a touchdown..LSU and USC actually split the 2003 national championship⁉🏆🏆USC was the AP National Champion for 2003 What's your problem with college football before 1998 ?? Do you even remember college football before that year ? 🤔🏈📺
@@fiesta061000 oh I do kid I remember undefeated SEC teams passed over for weaker teams out of spite. Ole Miss in the 60s. Auburn in the 80s. I do have a problem with the poll era where we elected national champions like it was the Oscars. Now play for them and the SEC dominates. Expand the playoffs all it’ll be is all SEC national title games with extra steps. How do I know? Cause I said the same thing in 2012.
@@fiesta061000 the first winner take all on the field game was 1992-1993 season when Alabama beat Miami in an upset. Before that it was just polls and different polls and different “Champions” a time it gave them to more than one school. 1992-1993 season was the first where it was decided on the field the way it should be.
SEC won way more championships than big 10. USC and UCLA are not better programs than Texas and Oklahoma. If anything this merger of teams is expanding secs gap ahead of big 10. Big 10 champs got absolutely clamped by the second best sec program this past year. Outside of Ohio state and maybe Michigan, the big 10 hasn’t been relevant at all pretty much the last 2 decades
@@jerielpats246 can’t call one consistent and the other not worth talking about when one lost to the other. Not when your champ gets blown out 34-11 by Georgia and the year before buckeyes get beat 52-24
@@jerielpats246 can’t call one consistent and the other not worth talking about when one lost to the other. Not when your champ gets blown out 34-11 by Georgia and the year before buckeyes get beat 52-24
The big 10 is definitely Second tier in college football. The SEC is ahead of every other conference by a long margin..an it will more than likely continue. 💯💯
Well I mean the big 10 hasn’t won a natty since 2014 and since then the sec has won 5 with 3 different teams on top of that the sec has 12/16 national championships with 5 different teams and have had 18 teams appear in 16 nattys so I would have to say the sec 💯
@@ehret04 that's why we have the best conference, nothing weird about conference pride, I'ma lifelong diehard BAMA fan but secondly I pull for all SEC teams vs non conference opponents ROLL TIDE ROLL and go S-E-C S-E-C S-E-C, lol a PSU fan calling anything weird is a joke, you wanna know what's weird, how about Gary Sandusky and Joe Paterno those are F weirdos I'd STFU if I was a F Penn State fan, what a dam shame and embarrassment please.... It's pretty weird just being a PSU fan after all that, I bet you think Jopa had a pretty mouth, edited it's Jerry Sandusky not Gary I stand corrected on that
@@ezmoney5087 I'm an SEC'er as well, but it's jerry sandusky lol. And yes I root for all SEC teams in non-conference games. I also root for many other teams across the nation, it's not wierd I just think the B1G gets wayyy too much credit. But this Cali deal is huge. Will 100% make USC a contender again(idc ab lincoln, conference change is 10x more important). They are one of the only hotbeds of HS talent (outside of the Bible belt) and if they lock that down it'll be interesting to see. Want to see 2 mega conferences (like the NFL), but I think we're gonna end up with 3, where Big12 is the little brother.
This is a ridiculous argument. Coming from a notre Dame fan, the SEC has dominated not just the past 10, or 20 years, they've been killing it for 30 years. Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia have all won national titles and most of them won multiple. Compare that to the osu and Michigan's 1/2 97 title lol. Wow
Iowa has a losing record vs SEC... Their best record is against Miss St & the Gamecocks.... And lost their only game against Kentucky... KENTUCKY Ole Miss and Miss State will give Pen State a hard time... Ohio State would have 2 or 4 loses per year of they played in SEC because their lines aren't made to battle against future NFL draft picks every week
You smoking crack the B10 is not a basketball conference that anyone on this planet names first you should of just said hockey to save yourself the embarrassment everyone thinks of the ACC or BIG12 before they think of the B10 the B10 might even have the worse basketball of all the power 5 considering the SEC has Kentucky which historically better than every team in the B10 and has the 2nd most championships all-time
@@AaronCaldwell. big ten has been thr best basketball conference for 20 years. We sell out every game, make 💰 than any other conference and get more tournament teams. Every big ten is a basketball school. Less than half of big ten cares about its football team:Illinois, purdue, Maryland, Indiana, northwestern and I can go on
Keyshawn is a fool, even LSU has 3 championships in the last 20 years, everyone in the big 10 must be hiding behind OSU he's a fool the SEC is way more prestigious, proven facts
The sec has better teams no doubt but the big 10 will be more prestigious because of the brands. UCLA basketball. Usc Ohio state penn state Michigan Nebraska are all considered prestigious because of their history and they’re considered college football royalty no matter how trash they are
@@fivefour5514 those so called Bluebloods hasn't done shyt in football, UCLA great basketball history, USC until proven different is a has been, at least the SEC has much more variety of teams with recent football championships, the only thing the Big 10 has is OSU so far, Mich was ok last year but probably a one hit wonder and not even that vs a good SEC team, Georgia, BAMAs stomped them twice under SABAN so there you go with USC and UCLA joining the B1G it's still OSU only, nevertheless USC and UCLA are brands but so is Texas and Oklahoma all 4 are has beens but Oklahoma adds a little more prestige as of late than the others
@@ezmoney5087 no true I agree with you but those big ten teams will always be more prestigious than those sec teams except Alabama it’s only because their blue bloods now 20-30 years from now will see how it changes
Kentucky beat Iowa in the Citrus Bowl last year. So don't sit here and try to talk about Kentucky like they are this garbage team and then act like Iowa is above most of the SEC.......
For what? Do you even know that the academic standards required for athletes is way lower than the schools academic standard required for normal students applying to go there? All schools have the super low GPA requirements for athletes that’s why athletes can go to any university they want to if their good at any sport including the ivy leagues.
The only way a university or conference can have prestige in athletics is actually winning in those athletics which the big-10 doesn’t do in any major sport basketball is dominated by the Big12/ACC and sometimes Kentucky in the SEC, baseball dominated by the SEC and football dominated by the SEC. The Big-10 has a lot of work to do.
Vandys definitely not a powerful football program but I think being in the sec makes them look worse than they are, they're no worse than other weaker programs from the other conferences
@@bam9055 in fact, going back to the '07 season I only see that 1 FCS loss. Isn't '07 the year an FCS team beat Michigan? So since then Michigan (I assume) has as many FCS losses as Vandy?
@@bam9055 Vanderbilt recruits 30th on average in recruiting rankings every year out of the 100’s of schools in the country which is better than 6 big10 teams average every year but top 30 isn’t good enough in the SEC as that ranks for last amongst SEC teams but they would fighting for 4th or 5th in the B10 every year with that average recruiting ranking hence you don’t know what you’re talking about.
1. Alabama over Ohio State 2. Georgia over Michigan 3. Oklahoma over Penn State 4. Texas A&M over Michigan State 5. LSU over USC 6. Auburn over Wisconsin 7. Iowa over Ole Miss 8. Arkansas over UCLA 9. Tennessee over Minnesota 10. Kentucky over Purdue 11. Mississippi State over Maryland 12. South Carolina over Indiana 13. Florida over Nebraska 14. Texas over Illinois 15. Missouri over Rutgers 16. Northwestern over Vanderbilt Head to head the sec is vastly better
Right now the SEC is tougher but USC was Bama before Bama and would not have let Bama be so dominant if it wasn't for bogus sanctions/bias against them. USC has Pete Carroll era potential under Riley (seemingly perfect coaching fit). Then when you mix that with Ohio State and Michigan being up, there's a ton of prestige with the chance to challenge the SEC. The B1G has been the conference most at it's heals. Ryan is right but Keyshawn made some points too. SEC is #1 B1G is #2. But it's not to say that can't change going forwards. It's also worth noting that Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State and UCLA can all be teams that nobody wants to play/ have had plenty of elite teams before.
If you take a look at the national footprint, market revenue, NIL in these markejts, BIG10 becomes more prestigious. Saban complaining about NIL, Texas A&M, etc., makes the case even more for the BIG10.
I hate SEC dominance, it’s ruining the sport. When the second best conference is so far behind the number one, and the other 3 power fives are loosing all their best teams to the top 2 power fives, the sport is in a bad state.
Iowa lost to Kentucky by a field goal last year which makes that game basically a toss up and Kentucky finished 4th in the SEC. Yes, Alabama and Georgia are elite. Everybody else is basically average.
Keyshawn is da biggest hater of Oklahoma since he been on t.v. Oklahoma on da level of Alabama and Georgia period put some respect on the Big 12 South and SEC's name fa real chill out
Lol I'll have half of whatever this guys having. Oklahoma and Texas both are about to have their chance to prove it on the field though, I look forward to seeing it in action. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong
Used to love watching OSU Michigan, Auburn Alabama Texas Oklahoma ECT. Not anymore, nothing against any of these teams, but what there conference is doing to college football, and all of the teams that are being left out. I will watch my team, but that's ot
The problem with this conversation is that the big 10 has been playing the long game in my opinion. Look at the population of the states their schools reside in. If my numbers are correct it’s about 50 million difference in favor of the big 10. Let’s assume that number continues to grow for the next 25-30 years. Does it reach 100 million?? That’s a lot of TV sets. The sec has clearly had more success in championship games. It’s not like OSU hasn’t had its chances. If the big 10 can turn that 20 year run around how does it look then? Winning fixes a lot of problems but what happens if the big ten catches up? With OSU where they are and usc having unlimited potential it’s not far fetched for them to win a lot and close the gap. Should be a lot of fun the next decade or so.
Hahaha B10 schools are poor redneck Midwestern schools. They all have embarrassing acceptance rates outside of Nwestern, Mich, and Wisco. B10 academics suck and the Midwest is poor compared to Florida, Texas, Georgia, Virginia, NC, etc.
It's really sad to see that ESPN would hire someone as unknowledgeable as Johnson as an analyst. I counted five mistakes in his opening line. Fortunately Clark was there to correct him but he let him off easy. ESPN could and should do a lot better.
Compare the SEC to any conference, in the last 15-20 years Florida, auburn, LSU , Georgia, and Alabama have all won one or More championships each, nobody has nowhere close to that many teams represented, at one point the SEC won 7 consecutive BCS championships and has dominated the playoffs S-E-C S-E-C S-E-C
@GG Rene ok fool and the big 10 plays teams like Akron, Ohio bobcats, Toledo, Miami of Ohio, etc BAMA has opened with 14 or so straight power 5 non conference opponents and has won all of them, Mich doesn't even play a power 5 non conference opponent this season, BAMA plays Texas in Austin this coming season. The SEC had conference championships long before anyone else, what took you fools so long the SEC is by far the best conference that's a proven fact
@GG Rene wouldn't most of the rilvary games be sec vs sec... So both teams would be scheduling cupcakes before the game? So that makes it easy to win for who?both teams? Lol the big ten is a really solid conference but they haven't proven themselves to be able to consistently compete with the sec as a whole
@@ianmcintosh8307 and this season Michigan doesn't even play a non conference power 5 opponent, idk if any other Big 10 teams don't I know Mich doesn't and BAMA has opened with 14 or 15 consecutive non conference power 5 opponents and won them all, BAMA plays Texas in Austin this coming season RTR
this dude is literally forgetting Saban at LSU and Les Miles at LSU winning national championships. When you become obsessed with the Big 10 logic and rationality go out the door
BIG10 has been paying players for 20 years, now it’s legal. I’m sure it will get better, but also let’s look at where the players come from during recruitment. Where are most of the SEC players originating, regionally speaking, from throughout the country? I’ll let y’all tell me. SEC will reign.
Idk why this was even a debate. ESPN is an SEC network they’re literal business partners, whereas fox has a deal with the big ten. This conversation is biased on espn and biased if it was had on fox
First off, she's a whole baddie outchea... ✅ Secondly, SEC FOOTBALL... Thirdly, them Young Bengals be winning ships, dawg... 💯 Show respect... Lastly, Keyshawn ain't no good arguing just to argue like Skip and Stephen be doing... Someone gotta fight from the opposing angle, tho...
@@jimmy_butler exactly, and the SEC even won 7 straight championships in the BCS era and has dominated the playoffs with 3 different SEC teams BAMA, LSU and Georgia
It took UGA 40 years to win 2 Championships.. Very Prestigious 🤣😂.. USC has 11 National Championships and has SMACKED the SEC all through history... who else in the SEC has 11 other than Bama?? Mizzou, Arkansas? South Carolina?? Tenn?? 🤣😂 Who?? 95% of the SEC is trash..
SEC with Texas it’s hard to beat that now if BIG10 added ND it would be very close. It’s a matter of time before Clemson,Miami and FSU complete the SEC super conference.
No one nationally knew who LSU was until a BCS bowl in 2002. When I was in Vegas I couldn’t bet on them because they were an unknown team “nationally.” You can’t say that about 7 teams in the Big10. Prior to Florida in 2006 upset win against Ohio State, The SEC was looked at as the 2nd, 3rd or 4th best conference. Johnson is correct, Nick Saban is the only reason the SEC has done this well, for this long. without him the dominance would’ve flung back to the Midwest or the west coast.
Big 10 got a lot of prestigious schools but the SEC got better teams lately. That’s why getting OU and Texas make sense because those schools are arguably just as prestigious as the top big 10 schools.
LSu won the national championship in 1958..🏆😆However you make a good argument..LSU wasn't really relative in college football until the 21st century..🐯🏈🏆🏆🏆🟪
Michigan's hey day? they are three time straight BIG TEN Champions, played in the CFP last 3 years in a row...and defending NATIONAL Champions? their hey days? it also NOW!
The SEC can win every championship from now until the end of time, the most population heavy cities/states are up north. College sports is about region and legacy. You’ll never see people up here with Alabama, Mississippi and LSU shirts up north, unfortunately because of the legacy of the South that is beyond football. This is something that is hard for people down south to understand. Penn State, Iowa and Illinois can be losers forever, they’ll never switch their large population into Bama fans. Never. Texas, is the SEC saving grace, because Texas is a country unto itself, like California. Point being, advertising dollars will always favor the Big Ten schools over Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas.
SEC HANDS DOWN !!! May as well create a northern conference and a southern conference and be done with it. Northern, west coast teams, mountain range teams, cutting across the middle of the country up into the northeast. Southern conference, southwest thru the central border states like Kansas, Missouri up to and including Virginia and West Virginia and all states below. A new civil war fought on the football field every year. My money would nearly always be on the southern conference. With most of the wealth there. Texas alone is by far the wealthiest university even when they don't win. Plus add in the weak woke factor that affects the north and the west to a much higher degree then the south. 😂😂😂😅😅
SEC vs Big 10 All Time Record currently sits at (101-68-2) in favor of the SEC.
You can add a few more of those SEC wins to that list 😂😂😂
Which conference has the most national championships since 2000? The SEC. And don’t even say, “It’s Bama and everyone else,” because if you take Bama out, the SEC still has the most with seven. Auburn and Georgia each have one, Florida has two, and LSU has three. Stop kidding yourselves. The SEC is the best conference. End of story.
💯, Not even close S-E-C S-E-C S-E-C
Duh it is bama and everyone else for the past decade who has it Been then 🤷🏿♂️roll tide 🐘
@@drocapone8023 You’re not helping.
Wrong
@@mikeallen312 what do you mean wrong, he's right, the SEC has dominated football the last 20 years not only that, SEC players have dominated the NFL as well by far , miles ahead of other conferences especially Alabama and look at Georgia drafts last season, the SEC has more players and starters than all other conferences combined, under SABAN BAMA alone has more players, starters and first round draft picks than anyone, BAMA leads in all three categories after that the NFL is primarily SEC players as a whole no other conference is close , OSU has made a little noise but nowhere close to SEC players in
Keyshawn talking smack because he needed to give the Big10 a voice. The Big10 will definitely be very prestigious, but there is nothing wrong with being the #2 conf in prestige.
The argument always makes me laugh when people try to say Bama and no one else in the SEC. If you take out all of Alabama's titles since the bowl system ended (starting 1998) the SEC has a total of 8 titles from 6 different schools. Other conferences are ACC with 4 (Miami's didn't count because it was in the Big East at the time), B1G with 2 (both OSU), Pac with 2 (Both USC), Big 12 with 2.
Just facts here.... no opinions.
Not only that, in the last 17 years the SEC has won the Title 4 times in a row (2007-10) and 3 times in a row (2019-21) with both of those particular groupings having no repeat schools per group...
2007-10: LSU, UF, Bama, Auburn
2019-21: LSU, Bama, UGA
There's a metric out there (blue chip ratio) that accurately predicts which teams are capable of winning the Natty. If a team consists of at least 50% 4 and 5 star players, they're considered capable of winning a Natty. This has been almost 100% accurate for many years, even down to who can make the playoffs. Talent acquisition is the name of the game. The SEC has 6 of the 15 teams in that criteria, and 4 of those are in the SEC West alone. Auburn's on that list and their over/under betting win total is only ~5.5 - that's how brutal being in the SEC West is. The Big10 - widely considered the 2nd best conference - only has 3 teams.
All the anti-SEC arguments are casual, unsubstantiated ones.
The better response is take out Saban and Urban, since they proved they can build programs at two schools. Mind you Les won a title with Saban players. That’s 10 titles right there.
Cam Newton 2010, LSU 2019, had two of the greatest college players ever too!
I’m a USC fan so haven’t had much love for the Big 10 but lest be real divisions have been the biggest hindrance to the Big 10. 2014-2017 there were multiple years if Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan state we’re not in the same Divison they too would have had two teams in the playoffs. The SEC East being a joke has really helped the conference.
@@Drummajortsu With this "silly" argument, it means ACC would have to take out Dabo and Jimbo, PAC12 needs to take out Carrol and Kelly, B12 takes out Stoops and Brown, B1G takes out Urban and Schembeckler. Which leaves the other conferences with basically nothing. Even with your logic, and not even applying the "take best coaches out" to the other conferences....SEC still has 5 I believe. More than the others still.
Next?
@@Drummajortsu Except as much as it conveniences you, you can't take out coaches and title runs when comparing conferences; considering the measures of success are...coaches and title runs. Lol. Talk about grasping at straws. For every year you're making an excuse for, that's a year that the Big Ten didn't win a title. So what excuse do they have?
@@GoHawgs1987 Could give two damns about conferences. Teams and their coaches win titles. What Bama & Saban eats doesn’t make Scar, Miss State, Tennessee anything. I root for a team. ✌🏿fight on!
Keyshawn made himself look really stupid here. The SEC is head and shoulders above the Big Ten. Really and seriously.
Forget the national titles the last two decades; the SEC has led the nation in draft picks every year for the last 16 years. So even when they had 12 teams there were consecutive years they led. Seven different teams from the SEC had a first rounder last year. Half of the conference. They've had 50 top ten picks since 2009. The next closest are the ACC and Pac 12 with 21 a piece. The B1G has had 14 during that time frame. Here's the big one. Since 2010 the SEC has had 135 first round picks. The Big Ten is next, with 64... So the SEC has had more first rounders in the last twelve years than the next two conferences combined (ACC 64, B1G 64).
What did Arkansas do to Penn State?? Oh yea, put 361 yards on the ground 😂😂
SEC has won 12 of the last 16 national championships lol. It's not even close. The Big10 has ONE title in the last 16 years.
My question to the people who deny SEC's clear dominance: What do they know that NFL scouts don't know? Reality is that the South produces the best football players. It used to be the case that best football players from the South were evenly dived among several conferences, but ever since the mid-2000s, most of the best football players from the South choose to play in the SEC
@@jamesyarbrough778 Meanwhile, once again the best QB on the best team is a California kid...
@@BigChrisENT Truth - but the best player on the team, and probably the entire nation if we're being real, is from GA
@@BigChrisENT Yep, a lot of the best high school quarterbacks choose the SEC. My guess is that it's because the SEC is the closest thing there is to an NFL defense they can play against.
Key saying the sec hides behind two teams is absolutely ridiculous
He also said he's looking at this objectively, but isn't he a USC guy? Key talks about the SEC hiding behind two teams and then is more than happy to hid behind the legacy of OSU and Michigan. Hipocracy thy name is. Lets be honest, even with the addition of USC, there is only one true perenial contender in the Big10 and thats Ohio State....sorrry THE Ohio State.
As if Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, don't compete. 😒 Key at this point just on the opposite side for personal bias.
He had a better argument if he said the SEC West carries the SEC East
The SEC is clearly the more dominant football conference over the past 30+ years. On top of having more teams that have won more national titles, the SEC also has a power team in the midst of a dynastic run (Alabama/Saban Era) and usually has 5+ teams in the Top 25. But Keyshawn Johnson is right that the SEC hides behind 1 or 2 teams sometimes, as the SEC schools are not invincible and there is some mediocrity below the top teams in a given year just as there are in other conferences. You have SEC schools losing to FCS schools like Jacksonville State, Maine, East Tennessee State, and Citadel. You have other run-of-the-mill FBS schools like NC State, West Virginia, Kansas State, and Northwestern beating SEC teams in bowl games. So yes, the SEC is the dominant power, but they are still human with the average SEC team susceptible to being beaten by teams from other FBS conferences.
On the other hand, the question of who is more "prestigious" is a different kind of question than who is stronger now and even not fully addressed in the clip. Prestige brings in stronger consideration to the history and tradition of a conference than just what may have happened in the past few years or decades. For example between the Big Ten and SEC, the Minnesota Golden Gophers have more national titles than all but Alabama and incoming Oklahoma in the SEC and Ohio State and incoming USC in the Big Ten (yes, even more than Michigan during the poll era and also more than Nebraska), but there is not a lot of talk about them now. On the football side, your bringing in USC & UCLA to the Big Ten and Oklahoma & Texas to the SEC and then adding those to their respective conference portfolio and history and the dimension of the question is deeper and involves consideration of what the individual schools have accomplished over time and how that impacts the perception of the conference to the football public.
Technically they were both right. The B1Gis the historically more prestigious conference if you look at the names. The SEC schools have always been looked down upon. The problem is for the last 30 years the schools from the South have been the best and most consistent performers in the CFB world. So if you're going by academic and historic football reputation, yes it's the B1G. If your going by the best and most committed football programs, especially over the last 25 years, it's the SEC,
@GG Rene I rlly wanna do some data analysis on where the most talent is, but regardless put some respect on the SEC. I always hear this same mumbo jumbo especially after an SEC team has 5 key players opt out for a bowl game, and another team beats them. Big10 has prestige if we're talking about the last 100 years. The USC UCLA merge is HUGE. Bc its the only state that even remotely rivals the hotspots of HS talent (held within the sunbelt). I wish we could have teams swap schedules just to prove a wisconsin(a program i think pretty highly of) would not win 5 games in the SEC. but I think this'll be proved with the super-conferences. In the past 20 years, i'd argue the B1G wasn't that much better than the likes of the Big12, ACC, or even PAC12. Top to bottom, yeah you could make the case they were better, but as far as 75th percentile and up, they were no more solid than any of these other conferences(i'd say ACC & Big12) in this case.
B10 academics suck outside of Michigan, Northwestern, and Wisco.
Vandy, UGA, Florida, Texas, etc. better than any B10 school not named Nwestern / Mich
@@fitzwilliamdarcy5263 almost all Big Ten schools r part of the AAU and top 100 in national rankings. The SEC can’t say that
@@watchandeat4676 Yes, they can. Again, Vanderbilt, Texas, Florida, Georgia, etc. are better than the vast majority of B10 schools.
Also, the AAU can’t be that impressive if schools like Kansas, Indiana, and Purdue are all members (with their joke acceptance rates). Top 100 isn’t an achievement lol.
Also, the Midwest combined all of their D1 schools in one conference. The South is just so superior that we’ve had to split our D1 schools. If the SEC consolidated the South like the Midwest has the B10, then it’d also have Duke, UVA, UNC, Georgia Tech, etc.
SEC has the superior football product. Period. If Big 10 wants to hide behind academics, go right ahead. You’ve lost the argument already.
The Big 10 depends on talent from SEC territory. Always seeing Michigan and Ohio State trying to poach in Texas, Florida. That could dry up with some of the richest schools like Texas, A&M factoring NIL. Texas is the 2nd richest school in the country only behind Harvard University.
Yea I feel like NIL is the best thing that ever happened to Texas. They have the biggest brand in college football
NIL definitely changed the recruiting fortunes for some universities in Florida and Texas, but those schools still have to start developing their players into high draft picks or recruits will eventually start to look elsewhere.. Ohio State is going to get theirs regardless, they literally recruit nationwide from Ohio, Florida, Texas, Georgia, California, Arizona, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, Nevada, Washington, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, Michigan etc..
If Bama carried the SEC a conference that has won with 5 different teams. What are the Buckeyes doing being the only big 10 team to win a title since 1998 aka the only championships that matter since that’s when we started actually playing for them
College football teams always played for the national championship..The determination for who's the national champion has changed over time..You went from poll voters to Bowl Alliance to BCS to the Playoff..There were split national champions some years..I'm 34 now..I remember the Bowl Alliance, BCS, and the current Playoff..🤔🏈✔🏟💺🏆
@@fiesta061000 nooooe when polls decided the national title winner not a game winner r a tournament then no. 1998 and beyond is all that mattered. We warned you from the SEC and you didn’t listen
@@manwholaughs2477 The SEC really dominated from 2006 to present..A SEC team won the national championship in 1996, 1998, and 2003..Florida dominated the Sugar Bowl/de-facto national championship game in 1996..1998 Tennesseee and 2003 LSU both won their BCS championship games by a touchdown..LSU and USC actually split the 2003 national championship⁉🏆🏆USC was the AP National Champion for 2003 What's your problem with college football before 1998 ?? Do you even remember college football before that year ?
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@@fiesta061000 oh I do kid I remember undefeated SEC teams passed over for weaker teams out of spite. Ole Miss in the 60s. Auburn in the 80s. I do have a problem with the poll era where we elected national champions like it was the Oscars. Now play for them and the SEC dominates. Expand the playoffs all it’ll be is all SEC national title games with extra steps. How do I know? Cause I said the same thing in 2012.
@@fiesta061000 the first winner take all on the field game was 1992-1993 season when Alabama beat Miami in an upset. Before that it was just polls and different polls and different “Champions” a time it gave them to more than one school. 1992-1993 season was the first where it was decided on the field the way it should be.
Keyshawn what’s Kentucky’s record against the B1G in recent times? Kentucky is challenging for the SEC East.
LSU been to 4 nattys and won 3 since 2000. Keyshawn sounds like he doesn't even know that lol
It’s very exciting to see how things turn out over the years
Academically: B1G
Football: SEC
Depends on who you ask. You're maybe from the north or out west. Everybody has feelings and opinions.
UGA is the oldest public school in the country
B10 schools are terrible. They all have 50% + acceptance rates except Nwestern, Mich, and Wisco
You are a straight up clown if you honestly think the Big10 is a stronger conference than the SEC, especially since the SEC is gaining a playoff team.
playoff team one went 5-7 and the other lost 3 games i dont see a playoff team
SEC won way more championships than big 10. USC and UCLA are not better programs than Texas and Oklahoma. If anything this merger of teams is expanding secs gap ahead of big 10. Big 10 champs got absolutely clamped by the second best sec program this past year. Outside of Ohio state and maybe Michigan, the big 10 hasn’t been relevant at all pretty much the last 2 decades
Vanderbilt is being disrespected they are one of the founders of the SEC stop disrespecting them
They are trash at football that is all they are saying
Then tell them to become relevant and I will!!!!! Until then they are the laughing stock of the SEC
Just be competitive. I’m not asking to win the SEC but just be competitive
Lol facts respect for Vandy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most National Championships, most CFP teams, most NFL draft picks... Its not even close.
Wait you mean Big ten or SEC
Kentucky beat that consistent Iowa…. So what you talking about Keshawn
ok and 2 sec teams lost to UCF and Houston and antoher sec team got blown out 34-7
@@jerielpats246 can’t call one consistent and the other not worth talking about when one lost to the other. Not when your champ gets blown out 34-11 by Georgia and the year before buckeyes get beat 52-24
@@jerielpats246 can’t call one consistent and the other not worth talking about when one lost to the other. Not when your champ gets blown out 34-11 by Georgia and the year before buckeyes get beat 52-24
@@jerielpats246 good try making a point when neither team you mentioned were big 10 and both teams that lost were like 6-6.
SEC is the best conference in college football
The big 10 is definitely Second tier in college football. The SEC is ahead of every other conference by a long margin..an it will more than likely continue. 💯💯
Well I mean the big 10 hasn’t won a natty since 2014 and since then the sec has won 5 with 3 different teams on top of that the sec has 12/16 national championships with 5 different teams and have had 18 teams appear in 16 nattys so I would have to say the sec 💯
You're right Dawg, but ROLL TIDE ROLL go S-E-C S-E-C S-E-C, Tell these fools
“Will be” not what happened in the past
Sec fans are so weird they cheer for rival schools?
@@ehret04 that's why we have the best conference, nothing weird about conference pride, I'ma lifelong diehard BAMA fan but secondly I pull for all SEC teams vs non conference opponents ROLL TIDE ROLL and go S-E-C S-E-C S-E-C, lol a PSU fan calling anything weird is a joke, you wanna know what's weird, how about Gary Sandusky and Joe Paterno those are F weirdos I'd STFU if I was a F Penn State fan, what a dam shame and embarrassment please.... It's pretty weird just being a PSU fan after all that, I bet you think Jopa had a pretty mouth, edited it's Jerry Sandusky not Gary I stand corrected on that
@@ezmoney5087 I'm an SEC'er as well, but it's jerry sandusky lol. And yes I root for all SEC teams in non-conference games. I also root for many other teams across the nation, it's not wierd I just think the B1G gets wayyy too much credit. But this Cali deal is huge. Will 100% make USC a contender again(idc ab lincoln, conference change is 10x more important). They are one of the only hotbeds of HS talent (outside of the Bible belt) and if they lock that down it'll be interesting to see. Want to see 2 mega conferences (like the NFL), but I think we're gonna end up with 3, where Big12 is the little brother.
SEC all day - East and West are the real deal
This is a ridiculous argument. Coming from a notre Dame fan, the SEC has dominated not just the past 10, or 20 years, they've been killing it for 30 years. Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia have all won national titles and most of them won multiple.
Compare that to the osu and Michigan's 1/2 97 title lol. Wow
That's 1/2 national championship more than Notre Lame. 45-14
30 years?? They were quiet during Pete Carrols 10 year run 🤣..
@@49erLA lsu 2003 Florida 2006 lsu 2007 Florida 2008 Alabama 2009 Auburn 2010.....
What 10 year run?
Lmao 🤣
@@49erLA just looked. SEC going back to 1992 has fielded a national championship team every other year on average.
Lmao usc 10 year run
SEC has only dominated since 2009 bro every since USC got the death penalty
but when was the last time a big ten won a championship 2014 Ohio State
Stupid question.. because the SEC dominates all every year.
Iowa has a losing record vs SEC... Their best record is against Miss St & the Gamecocks.... And lost their only game against Kentucky... KENTUCKY
Ole Miss and Miss State will give Pen State a hard time... Ohio State would have 2 or 4 loses per year of they played in SEC because their lines aren't made to battle against future NFL draft picks every week
Arkansas beat Penn st in their bowl game. 24-10 i believe
Not to mention Kentucky also beat Penn State in 2018.
BAMA dominated the 60s and 70s as well
Sec is a better football conference, the big ten is the better conference because of its history and basketball
You smoking crack the B10 is not a basketball conference that anyone on this planet names first you should of just said hockey to save yourself the embarrassment everyone thinks of the ACC or BIG12 before they think of the B10 the B10 might even have the worse basketball of all the power 5 considering the SEC has Kentucky which historically better than every team in the B10 and has the 2nd most championships all-time
@@AaronCaldwell. big ten has been thr best basketball conference for 20 years. We sell out every game, make 💰 than any other conference and get more tournament teams. Every big ten is a basketball school. Less than half of big ten cares about its football team:Illinois, purdue, Maryland, Indiana, northwestern and I can go on
sec is the greatest conference ever and its not even close
how many big ten teams have won in 2 decades
SEC SEC SEC
BigTen been overrated since 2006 when Florida Gators laid the smackdown on Thee Ohio St Buckeyes
and now florida a dead program who wishes to win 10 games
@@jerielpats246 switch OSU and UF conferences and Gators win 10 games easily and OSU becomes that dead program
"Y'all still got Indiana!" LOL. Quote of the day. Key, I love you but facts are facts. SEC is the elite conference.
Vanderbilt? 😅😭🤣😂👍
N Illinois lmao
SEC is the best conference hands down
SEC by a mile honestly not close
It’s not even close, it’s SEC by far
Stop it …..SEC
Keyshawn is a fool, even LSU has 3 championships in the last 20 years, everyone in the big 10 must be hiding behind OSU he's a fool the SEC is way more prestigious, proven facts
It’s a sports talk show. He has to disagree with the pundits you egghead.
The sec has better teams no doubt but the big 10 will be more prestigious because of the brands. UCLA basketball. Usc Ohio state penn state Michigan Nebraska are all considered prestigious because of their history and they’re considered college football royalty no matter how trash they are
@@fivefour5514 those so called Bluebloods hasn't done shyt in football, UCLA great basketball history, USC until proven different is a has been, at least the SEC has much more variety of teams with recent football championships, the only thing the Big 10 has is OSU so far, Mich was ok last year but probably a one hit wonder and not even that vs a good SEC team, Georgia, BAMAs stomped them twice under SABAN so there you go with USC and UCLA joining the B1G it's still OSU only, nevertheless USC and UCLA are brands but so is Texas and Oklahoma all 4 are has beens but Oklahoma adds a little more prestige as of late than the others
@@ezmoney5087 no true I agree with you but those big ten teams will always be more prestigious than those sec teams except Alabama it’s only because their blue bloods now 20-30 years from now will see how it changes
SEC, not really a serious question.
This is not a question. SEC
Keyshawn Johnson wrong SEC kills the BigTen
Kentucky beat Iowa in the Citrus Bowl last year. So don't sit here and try to talk about Kentucky like they are this garbage team and then act like Iowa is above most of the SEC.......
The SEC was more prestigious beforehand, and they added better teams than the Big 10 did, so there is no way the Big 10 surpassed them
keyshawn said everyone hides behind Alabama and Georgia but the big ten hides behind Ohio State
Come on this is a no brainer. SEC
Key should have used the academic standards as part of his argument....that makes for more prestige and the big 10 has more schools that push grades
For what? Do you even know that the academic standards required for athletes is way lower than the schools academic standard required for normal students applying to go there? All schools have the super low GPA requirements for athletes that’s why athletes can go to any university they want to if their good at any sport including the ivy leagues.
The only way a university or conference can have prestige in athletics is actually winning in those athletics which the big-10 doesn’t do in any major sport basketball is dominated by the Big12/ACC and sometimes Kentucky in the SEC, baseball dominated by the SEC and football dominated by the SEC. The Big-10 has a lot of work to do.
Who's bringing home the trophies? It appears to be the SEC.
legit bc of nick saban take him out and the sec would have 6 nattys at most
@@jerielpats246 minus alabama trophies the sec still has more than the big10 in the last 20 years
As much as I hate both conferences. There’s no debate the SEC has way to much firepower over the weak BigTen slow pokes conference
Lol the slow pokes
what conference do you like pac-12 lol
West coast fanatical USC who hates the move going to the BugTen Conference
Never thought Keyshawn was very smart
Vanderbilt gotta be one of the worst programs in college football period but SEC so strong get outta here man
Vandys definitely not a powerful football program but I think being in the sec makes them look worse than they are, they're no worse than other weaker programs from the other conferences
@@ianmcintosh8307 no they lose to fcs opponents on the regular where u been at?
@@bam9055 well, I looked at their record going back to 2012 and I only see the 1 lose to an FCS school, Eastern Tennessee State last year.
@@bam9055 in fact, going back to the '07 season I only see that 1 FCS loss. Isn't '07 the year an FCS team beat Michigan? So since then Michigan (I assume) has as many FCS losses as Vandy?
@@bam9055 Vanderbilt recruits 30th on average in recruiting rankings every year out of the 100’s of schools in the country which is better than 6 big10 teams average every year but top 30 isn’t good enough in the SEC as that ranks for last amongst SEC teams but they would fighting for 4th or 5th in the B10 every year with that average recruiting ranking hence you don’t know what you’re talking about.
The SEC is miles ahead of the Big Ten. The only way the Big Ten can change this is to start racking up titles.
1. Alabama over Ohio State
2. Georgia over Michigan
3. Oklahoma over Penn State
4. Texas A&M over Michigan State
5. LSU over USC
6. Auburn over Wisconsin
7. Iowa over Ole Miss
8. Arkansas over UCLA
9. Tennessee over Minnesota
10. Kentucky over Purdue
11. Mississippi State over Maryland
12. South Carolina over Indiana
13. Florida over Nebraska
14. Texas over Illinois
15. Missouri over Rutgers
16. Northwestern over Vanderbilt
Head to head the sec is vastly better
Dumbest post I’ve ever seen in my life
Right now the SEC is tougher but USC was Bama before Bama and would not have let Bama be so dominant if it wasn't for bogus sanctions/bias against them. USC has Pete Carroll era potential under Riley (seemingly perfect coaching fit). Then when you mix that with Ohio State and Michigan being up, there's a ton of prestige with the chance to challenge the SEC. The B1G has been the conference most at it's heals. Ryan is right but Keyshawn made some points too. SEC is #1 B1G is #2. But it's not to say that can't change going forwards. It's also worth noting that Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State and UCLA can all be teams that nobody wants to play/ have had plenty of elite teams before.
Media bias for SEC is why they frequently end up with multiple teams in the playoffs thus increasing their odds…
If you take a look at the national footprint, market revenue, NIL in these markejts, BIG10 becomes more prestigious. Saban complaining about NIL, Texas A&M, etc., makes the case even more for the BIG10.
Ain't nobody worried about no IOWA 🤣🤣🤣
I hate SEC dominance, it’s ruining the sport. When the second best conference is so far behind the number one, and the other 3 power fives are loosing all their best teams to the top 2 power fives, the sport is in a bad state.
that's called jealousy everyone need to step up
I'm tired of hearing about Ohio State this Ohio State that do something
Iowa can't beat Kentucky, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Lord know who else they can't beat in the SEC
But tennessee lost to pitt at home doe
Mmm.. Arkansas is close but they beat the others
9 out of 10 times many time do you think pitt can beat Tennessee
Iowa lost to Kentucky by a field goal last year which makes that game basically a toss up and Kentucky finished 4th in the SEC. Yes, Alabama and Georgia are elite. Everybody else is basically average.
Literally beat Mississippi state not that long ago lol.
Depends what you define prestige by. If its money then it’s definitely Big10. In terms of success on the field it’s SEC.
Keyshawn is da biggest hater of Oklahoma since he been on t.v. Oklahoma on da level of Alabama and Georgia period put some respect on the Big 12 South and SEC's name fa real chill out
Lol I'll have half of whatever this guys having. Oklahoma and Texas both are about to have their chance to prove it on the field though, I look forward to seeing it in action. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong
@@nathanstruble2177 OU Is one of the only schools though out all history to be great in all decades except the 90s you will see.
Keyshawn talks with so much bias
Big Michigan fan, this is no contest sec cmon what are we talking about
USC and UCLA haven't been good in a long time
Mississippi State beat Texas A&M last year at their place
Yep...I watched it last night on SECN.... HOOKEM HORNS!!!!
Ole Miss beat them as well. Mississippi schools as some people call us will beat you if you over look us , just ask Alabama 😁
Didn't they loose to Memphis? And Texas Tech? 😂🤣😭😅👍
@@Artic-wolf77 we know what happened at Memphis game
Stop playing
Used to love watching OSU Michigan, Auburn Alabama Texas Oklahoma ECT. Not anymore, nothing against any of these teams, but what there conference is doing to college football, and all of the teams that are being left out. I will watch my team, but that's ot
The SEC is number 1 in winning the big 10 is the most watched thus will make the most money. In the end it wont matter as eventually they will be one.
The problem with this conversation is that the big 10 has been playing the long game in my opinion. Look at the population of the states their schools reside in. If my numbers are correct it’s about 50 million difference in favor of the big 10. Let’s assume that number continues to grow for the next 25-30 years. Does it reach 100 million?? That’s a lot of TV sets. The sec has clearly had more success in championship games. It’s not like OSU hasn’t had its chances. If the big 10 can turn that 20 year run around how does it look then? Winning fixes a lot of problems but what happens if the big ten catches up? With OSU where they are and usc having unlimited potential it’s not far fetched for them to win a lot and close the gap. Should be a lot of fun the next decade or so.
Hahaha I love this. B1G is smarter and richer AND now working coast to coast. Both will be great. Fight On.
Hahaha B10 schools are poor redneck Midwestern schools. They all have embarrassing acceptance rates outside of Nwestern, Mich, and Wisco.
B10 academics suck and the Midwest is poor compared to Florida, Texas, Georgia, Virginia, NC, etc.
Is this even a discussion 🙄, 2019🐯 2020🐘 2021🐶
It's really sad to see that ESPN would hire someone as unknowledgeable as Johnson as an analyst. I counted five mistakes in his opening line. Fortunately Clark was there to correct him but he let him off easy. ESPN could and should do a lot better.
Compare the SEC to any conference, in the last 15-20 years Florida, auburn, LSU , Georgia, and Alabama have all won one or More championships each, nobody has nowhere close to that many teams represented, at one point the SEC won 7 consecutive BCS championships and has dominated the playoffs S-E-C S-E-C S-E-C
@GG Rene ok fool and the big 10 plays teams like Akron, Ohio bobcats, Toledo, Miami of Ohio, etc BAMA has opened with 14 or so straight power 5 non conference opponents and has won all of them, Mich doesn't even play a power 5 non conference opponent this season, BAMA plays Texas in Austin this coming season. The SEC had conference championships long before anyone else, what took you fools so long the SEC is by far the best conference that's a proven fact
@GG Rene wouldn't most of the rilvary games be sec vs sec... So both teams would be scheduling cupcakes before the game? So that makes it easy to win for who?both teams? Lol the big ten is a really solid conference but they haven't proven themselves to be able to consistently compete with the sec as a whole
@@ianmcintosh8307 and this season Michigan doesn't even play a non conference power 5 opponent, idk if any other Big 10 teams don't I know Mich doesn't and BAMA has opened with 14 or 15 consecutive non conference power 5 opponents and won them all, BAMA plays Texas in Austin this coming season RTR
Ryan just owns Johnson in this argument.
this dude is literally forgetting Saban at LSU and Les Miles at LSU winning national championships. When you become obsessed with the Big 10 logic and rationality go out the door
Keyshawn Johnson just made my point, The BigTen overrated for decades now
80% of the football talent is in the SEC states. Big 10 is competing with one hand tied behind their backs already.
Rutgers is 4-6 against the SEC East all time and 2-3 all time against the West.
Yes, send in the secret weapon, surely the mighty Rutgers will bring down those fools chanting SEC! Buwahahaha!!!
BIG10 has been paying players for 20 years, now it’s legal. I’m sure it will get better, but also let’s look at where the players come from during recruitment. Where are most of the SEC players originating, regionally speaking, from throughout the country? I’ll let y’all tell me.
SEC will reign.
When is the last time usc been good
Key, bro. Seriously?
Idk why this was even a debate. ESPN is an SEC network they’re literal business partners, whereas fox has a deal with the big ten. This conversation is biased on espn and biased if it was had on fox
Keyshawn……Kentucky BEAT Iowa
ESPN stop doing this
First off, she's a whole baddie outchea...
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Secondly, SEC FOOTBALL...
Thirdly, them Young Bengals be winning ships, dawg...
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Show respect...
Lastly, Keyshawn ain't no good arguing just to argue like Skip and Stephen be doing...
Someone gotta fight from the opposing angle, tho...
If the big ten adds Norte Dame and Oregon it’s all over!
Clark is kinda right the history speaks for itself
The Big Ten is better top to bottom.
ROLL TIDE ROLL S-E-C S-E-C S-E-C, the SEC is more prestigious especially considering the championships in the last 20 years pure SEC domination
@@jimmy_butler exactly, and the SEC even won 7 straight championships in the BCS era and has dominated the playoffs with 3 different SEC teams BAMA, LSU and Georgia
It took UGA 40 years to win 2 Championships.. Very Prestigious 🤣😂.. USC has 11 National Championships and has SMACKED the SEC all through history... who else in the SEC has 11 other than Bama?? Mizzou, Arkansas? South Carolina?? Tenn?? 🤣😂 Who?? 95% of the SEC is trash..
Does anyone know when Stephen A is coming back to First Take?
SEC with Texas it’s hard to beat that now if BIG10 added ND it would be very close. It’s a matter of time before Clemson,Miami and FSU complete the SEC super conference.
No one nationally knew who LSU was until a BCS bowl in 2002. When I was in Vegas I couldn’t bet on them because they were an unknown team “nationally.” You can’t say that about 7 teams in the Big10. Prior to Florida in 2006 upset win against Ohio State, The SEC was looked at as the 2nd, 3rd or 4th best conference. Johnson is correct, Nick Saban is the only reason the SEC has done this well, for this long. without him the dominance would’ve flung back to the Midwest or the west coast.
Big 10 got a lot of prestigious schools but the SEC got better teams lately. That’s why getting OU and Texas make sense because those schools are arguably just as prestigious as the top big 10 schools.
LSu won the national championship in 1958..🏆😆However you make a good argument..LSU wasn't really relative in college football until the 21st century..🐯🏈🏆🏆🏆🟪
Michigan's hey day? they are three time straight BIG TEN Champions, played in the CFP last 3 years in a row...and defending NATIONAL Champions? their hey days? it also NOW!
12/16 says it all...
Keyshawn really forgot Nick Saban won titles at LSU
The SEC can win every championship from now until the end of time, the most population heavy cities/states are up north. College sports is about region and legacy. You’ll never see people up here with Alabama, Mississippi and LSU shirts up north, unfortunately because of the legacy of the South that is beyond football. This is something that is hard for people down south to understand. Penn State, Iowa and Illinois can be losers forever, they’ll never switch their large population into Bama fans. Never.
Texas, is the SEC saving grace, because Texas is a country unto itself, like California.
Point being, advertising dollars will always favor the Big Ten schools over Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas.
SEC HANDS DOWN !!! May as well create a northern conference and a southern conference and be done with it. Northern, west coast teams, mountain range teams, cutting across the middle of the country up into the northeast. Southern conference, southwest thru the central border states like Kansas, Missouri up to and including Virginia and West Virginia and all states below. A new civil war fought on the football field every year. My money would nearly always be on the southern conference. With most of the wealth there. Texas alone is by far the wealthiest university even when they don't win. Plus add in the weak woke factor that affects the north and the west to a much higher degree then the south. 😂😂😂😅😅
Does this guy even know college football
They both know more than you 🤫🤫🤫🤫
Never said they didn’t I said does that guy as in the big 10 isn’t better then the SEC