Interesting to see that you changed your attitude towards these 15 minute games a bit lately. You used to always get behind on the clock in the middle game and then speed up towards the end, now you are actively trying to apply pressure on the clock. Also nice octopus analogy, thanks :)
I think the point of Bb4 is putting the Bishop on D2 which doesnt really do much for white. It disconnects the Q and light squared bishop, so i think you can get away with losing a tempo and playing Be7 after. Probably not a huge difference though.
8. Be7 is more popular, but 8. Bb4 is still opening theory. Strangely enough, when in Opening Book in Komodo 9, the most popular move they recommend for 10. is Be7. Is giving up an entire tempo on the piece the best move? 10. h6 is also one of the moves recommended, but 11. Nf6 is not. Komodo instead opts for 11. Bd6. (This is not the engine btw, it's the opening book that comes with the program.)
iSevios I think Bb4 is just an attempt to misplace white's dark-squared bishop on d2 where it is very passive. Once white has castled, it's sort of done it's job on b4 and can try to reroute to f6 where it's more ideally placed. After a later g6 and maybe Bg7, black is very solid.
steeP That was a decent option as well, yes. I was a bit worried about playing my bishop on d6 when he has Ne4/Nb5 to harass it, but those are fairly easy to deal with.
that is some good skermish. it is nice to hear you can be a fish out of water in some istances. but you have squeezed your way through like an... octopus? :p
Huge respect for the people who can actually see multiple lines whilest playing. I dont see them quickly enough, but i guess tacticstrainer comes in handy :D. Solid game john
"When you're analyzing lines to try and trap a queen, and in every line you look at, the queen has one square to go to, you're probably not trapping the queen. Queens are slippery, like an octopus. Octopi are notorious for escaping from all sorts of crazy circumstances. They are able to squeeze their entire body through tiny spaces because their skeleton is very small in proportion to the rest of their body." ------ This, along with your speech about 1. e4 are among the best. Brilliant.
awesome game wih black dear sir but it is hard to play black especially in d4 openings plesae sir suggest mei some advice i find it difficult to defend.you are experienced player so you can handle it but i am not titled player therefore please help
Came for the chess, stayed for the marine biology
JacksonColbertNation 13:09 All about the queen
JacksonColbertNation "Is anyone here a marine biologist"?
Opponent: "wow, I got him good, he must be thinking really hard on this one"
John: "... and that's why octopuses are so hard to catch"
Radu Firtat LOL!
He was a strong player, great game,
Hehe, I liked the octopus analogy. :D
Interesting to see that you changed your attitude towards these 15 minute games a bit lately. You used to always get behind on the clock in the middle game and then speed up towards the end, now you are actively trying to apply pressure on the clock. Also nice octopus analogy, thanks :)
Roeland ter Hoeven Glad you noticed that! I've been trying to be more practical with my time management.
I think the point of Bb4 is putting the Bishop on D2 which doesnt really do much for white. It disconnects the Q and light squared bishop, so i think you can get away with losing a tempo and playing Be7 after. Probably not a huge difference though.
Nunchucks67 Correct. Compelling Bc1-d2 ensures that White will not be able to develop a more classical attacking IQP position with Bc1-g5.
arguably the correct plural of octopus is octopodes because it comes from Greek
8. Be7 is more popular, but 8. Bb4 is still opening theory. Strangely enough, when in Opening Book in Komodo 9, the most popular move they recommend for 10. is Be7.
Is giving up an entire tempo on the piece the best move? 10. h6 is also one of the moves recommended, but 11. Nf6 is not. Komodo instead opts for 11. Bd6.
(This is not the engine btw, it's the opening book that comes with the program.)
iSevios I think Bb4 is just an attempt to misplace white's dark-squared bishop on d2 where it is very passive. Once white has castled, it's sort of done it's job on b4 and can try to reroute to f6 where it's more ideally placed. After a later g6 and maybe Bg7, black is very solid.
Hey John what do you think about Be7 with the intention of Nb4, before he played 13. Qb3?
steeP That was a decent option as well, yes. I was a bit worried about playing my bishop on d6 when he has Ne4/Nb5 to harass it, but those are fairly easy to deal with.
Informative IQP game. I am currently looking for a chess coach, are you taking students? I would love to email you further.
Riley Friedenberg Thanks, Riley! Feel free to send me a message here on TH-cam.
that is some good skermish. it is nice to hear you can be a fish out of water in some istances. but you have squeezed your way through like an... octopus? :p
i love this opening
+CrystalGem For White or Black? :)
black!
Huge respect for the people who can actually see multiple lines whilest playing. I dont see them quickly enough, but i guess tacticstrainer comes in handy :D. Solid game john
TrickStxRz Thanks!
on 22 why not nf5, both defending and attacking the queen
TrickStxRz If 22...Nf5, then I assumed 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.Bxh6 was bad for Black, though I might have 24...Ng4 now that I look at it.
"When you're analyzing lines to try and trap a queen, and in every line you look at, the queen has one square to go to, you're probably not trapping the queen. Queens are slippery, like an octopus. Octopi are notorious for escaping from all sorts of crazy circumstances. They are able to squeeze their entire body through tiny spaces because their skeleton is very small in proportion to the rest of their body." ------ This, along with your speech about 1. e4 are among the best. Brilliant.
Shaunak Maruvada what was the speech about 1.e4?
yelling at my computer Qa8 Bxh2+ !!!!!!!!!
Octopusses are so intelligent, but they don't get very old. If they would, they would play chess, for sure!
awesome game wih black dear sir but it is hard to play black especially in d4 openings plesae sir suggest mei some advice i find it difficult to defend.you are experienced player so you can handle it but i am not titled player therefore please help
Isn't this game a regular Panov ? Original lines arise only when white delays the d4 push, such as 5.Bb5+ as John pointed, or 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5
hicetnunc1972 Yes, once White plays d2-d4 we're back in standard Panov-Botvinnik territory.