I do like how he changed slowly through the expansions. He started speaking out more rather than just being all worried to speak in fear of having horrible things done to the Tauren.
@Christopher That's like saying in 1944 that Hitler's actions are not bad because the war isn't over yet........ no, they're still bad, and nothing that is going to happen from now until the end of the expansion can possibly change that.
Agreed, and its even further interesting that he has a heart to go to the alliance to return Jaina’s brother. Who on the Horde side would do something that risky, lol
@Nobbel87 There is a video you haven't made which I would be interested in seeing......namely, if you can get ahold of (or find on youtube) the opening narrations for all the races from vanilla when someone creates a new character. And then, listen carefully to them and describe how much of those narrations was later developed successfully in the various expansions that followed vanilla. And yes, I mean the vanilla narrations, not the cataclysm ones.
@@samtemdo8 garosh and sylvanys at least make sence in terms of going to war if cairne became warchief they'd ither make it so hes has to go to war or just kill him of like vol jin
Darko Mihajlovski why not? Limit it to something like localized groups of fanatics fighting after the ceasefire. Like diehard warmongers who just too stubborn to quit. And then introduce shit like “free for all” kind of brawls and other activities that are PvP but not faction related. Ez. Pz. PvP sqz.
Which is why the Alliance is currently in the process of ending them. They've lost the war so it's only a matter of time before the Alliance claims victory ... again.
If Sylvannas turns out to be Garrosh 2.0, nothing would make me giddier than Anduin paraphrasing his father's words "You have failed to uphold honor, just as Garrosh had, and for that, we must end you."
No really. Think about it. Garrosh wanted to live up to his fathers memory. Anduin wants to live up to his fathers memory. Garrosh believed the Alliance was threatening the Hordes existence by deliberately withholding vital resources that the Horde needed and started a war over it. Anduin believes that the Horde threatened the Alliances existence by deliberately withdrawing vital military aid in the middle of a legion invasion that resulted in countless deaths and started a war over it.
Oh, and before you mention Teldrassil and blame Sylvanas for starting the war. I would like to point out that the Stormheim intro still counts as an act of war and that the Alliance started it.
Just a thought. The orc's first invasion is called the first war. The orc's invasion of lordearon is the second war. And the demon invasion was the third way. Would the war of the shifting sands be the 4th war? The war at the sunwell be the 5th. Northrend the 6th, cataclysm the 7th, siege of org the 8th, legion the 9th and bfa the 10th? Maybe ignore war of the shifting sand and sunwell for being pretty small in scale and cataclysm for not really being a war. but even then, we're at the 7th war. Not that that's shocking in a game called Warcraft. Just that we don't call it that but would the normies of azeroth call it that?
@Bysentenial No....because the terms "first war" in Warcraft are not a literal description of the first war ever being fought by anybody on Azeroth. There were plenty of wars before the Orcs and the burning legion ever arrived. Even the War of the Ancients came before the First War, for example. The only one in your list that might count as a 4th war is Garrosh from the start of the Cataclysm until the end of Mists of Pandaria.....but they are being written never to take responsibility for their evils then.
Boy magatha really fucked up. Thrall should’ve used fearbreaker and doomhammer on garrosh. Probably would’ve been cool to have a video on the earth mother, since it’s Mother’s Day lol. That lion king scene tho 😭😭😭. Right in the feels you cool bastard!
Well according to Blizz people of the Horde supported burning of Teldrassil and genocide of elfs and then probably any other acts of slaughter and genocide that Sylvanas planned...
11:42. So much for taunting Thrall of allowing warlocks to practice demonic magic in Orgrimmar, when he himself approved of using demons. Oh I read the book again and could confirm that Garrosh did say that.
MoP: The Alliance became pro-active to prevent there ever being another the likes of Garrosh. BfA: The Alliance being an active threat to the existence of the Horde leads to another, the likes of Garrosh
Can’t wait to see what 8.2 brings, hype for Tauren heritage armour, here’s a wild crazy theory, Blizzard said we had to do war campaign in order to get it, what if the player becomes the next Chieftain Of Thunderbluff?
I like early Baine even if he is somewhat naive on some fronts. It is a shame the current story in the latest expansion is just so god awful. I watched your PTR play with that flame dungeon crap and just I could not facepalm hard enough.
Protect Baine at all cost!!!! Save the bull! And the Horde with him
I do like how he changed slowly through the expansions. He started speaking out more rather than just being all worried to speak in fear of having horrible things done to the Tauren.
Bloodhoof/Sauerfang 2020
Agreed
Nobbel, you’re the only guy really keeping my interest in the lore alive anymore.
Because BFA is a direct contradiction of all the lore that matters.... sadly. Terrible writing.
@@laertesindeed How is it a contradiction?
@@laertesindeed bfa isnt over yet so it doesnt really matter
@Christopher That's like saying in 1944 that Hitler's actions are not bad because the war isn't over yet........ no, they're still bad, and nothing that is going to happen from now until the end of the expansion can possibly change that.
@@laertesindeed 1. Let's just wait and see what happens, 2. Are you really comparing real life genocide to fictional story telling lol
Baine is my favorite character. So glad it was you who I got to hear his story from.
Agreed, and its even further interesting that he has a heart to go to the alliance to return Jaina’s brother. Who on the Horde side would do something that risky, lol
@Nobbel87 There is a video you haven't made which I would be interested in seeing......namely, if you can get ahold of (or find on youtube) the opening narrations for all the races from vanilla when someone creates a new character. And then, listen carefully to them and describe how much of those narrations was later developed successfully in the various expansions that followed vanilla. And yes, I mean the vanilla narrations, not the cataclysm ones.
Nobbel you are the coolest person I swear! The way you commantate everything makes me sooo addicted to your videos! I love it sooooooo much
Tauren Master Race!!!
23:18 new wow textures are great
Yup, could definitely snort this content. Keep it up as usual you lore nerd❤️
I love Baine.
Baine and Cairne are such amazing horde leaders. loktar ogar QQ
But nope. We get Garrosh and Slyvanas as Warcheifs.
We had the best possible candidates to succeed Thrall and they wasted it.
@@samtemdo8 garosh and sylvanys at least make sence in terms of going to war if cairne became warchief they'd ither make it so hes has to go to war or just kill him of like vol jin
Darko Mihajlovski another option - DO NOT use that long spent “war narrative” and focus on world building?
@@MrVlad12340 blizzard needs an excuse to have conflict outside of old gods ect so it's not stopping anytime soon
Darko Mihajlovski why not? Limit it to something like localized groups of fanatics fighting after the ceasefire. Like diehard warmongers who just too stubborn to quit. And then introduce shit like “free for all” kind of brawls and other activities that are PvP but not faction related. Ez. Pz. PvP sqz.
I was one those faces sharing Baine's expression I destroyed the mini bomb out of my bag and I refuse to buy it to add to my toy box to this day.
"If you're Horde fails to uphold honor as Garrosh did, we will end you"
And guess what Sylvanas is doing
Which is why the Alliance is currently in the process of ending them. They've lost the war so it's only a matter of time before the Alliance claims victory ... again.
Well she is using manipulation not fear
being retconned to serve the allianced biased story, because 2/3 of her's got cut do to alliance complaining during legion's alpha.
vindurza “alliance biased”? Devs are hugely Horde biased lol.
If Sylvannas turns out to be Garrosh 2.0, nothing would make me giddier than Anduin paraphrasing his father's words "You have failed to uphold honor, just as Garrosh had, and for that, we must end you."
Plot twist: Anduin is Garrosh 2.0.
No really. Think about it. Garrosh wanted to live up to his fathers memory. Anduin wants to live up to his fathers memory. Garrosh believed the Alliance was threatening the Hordes existence by deliberately withholding vital resources that the Horde needed and started a war over it. Anduin believes that the Horde threatened the Alliances existence by deliberately withdrawing vital military aid in the middle of a legion invasion that resulted in countless deaths and started a war over it.
Oh, and before you mention Teldrassil and blame Sylvanas for starting the war. I would like to point out that the Stormheim intro still counts as an act of war and that the Alliance started it.
Watch how she slays him in front of his followers...
@Catknight You're an idiot and a liar.
Just a thought. The orc's first invasion is called the first war. The orc's invasion of lordearon is the second war. And the demon invasion was the third way.
Would the war of the shifting sands be the 4th war? The war at the sunwell be the 5th. Northrend the 6th, cataclysm the 7th, siege of org the 8th, legion the 9th and bfa the 10th?
Maybe ignore war of the shifting sand and sunwell for being pretty small in scale and cataclysm for not really being a war. but even then, we're at the 7th war. Not that that's shocking in a game called Warcraft. Just that we don't call it that but would the normies of azeroth call it that?
@Bysentenial No....because the terms "first war" in Warcraft are not a literal description of the first war ever being fought by anybody on Azeroth. There were plenty of wars before the Orcs and the burning legion ever arrived. Even the War of the Ancients came before the First War, for example. The only one in your list that might count as a 4th war is Garrosh from the start of the Cataclysm until the end of Mists of Pandaria.....but they are being written never to take responsibility for their evils then.
@JoJo Most of the developers don't play the game, and haven't for years.
Taurens, the master race
Boy magatha really fucked up.
Thrall should’ve used fearbreaker and doomhammer on garrosh.
Probably would’ve been cool to have a video on the earth mother, since it’s Mother’s Day lol.
That lion king scene tho 😭😭😭.
Right in the feels you cool bastard!
As an Alliance player, I hav respect towards Baine and the Tauren & of course the HM Tauren.
It’s sad. The people of the Horde are not evil, they’ve just had bad luck with evil leaders. Can’t wait to see Thrall come back.
Well according to Blizz people of the Horde supported burning of Teldrassil and genocide of elfs and then probably any other acts of slaughter and genocide that Sylvanas planned...
11:42. So much for taunting Thrall of allowing warlocks to practice demonic magic in Orgrimmar, when he himself approved of using demons. Oh I read the book again and could confirm that Garrosh did say that.
The horde story after Cains death is so bad.
This is all the WoW I need
I was already tearing up, and then the Lion King? Bro...
Baine is a good boi
Need to start a petition for nobbel to get a job reading the warcraft books on audible. Take all my money if you ever get the chance my dude.
My tauren good boi
4:49 Garrosh grabbing Krom'gar by the balls.
This is a good reminder that Jaina and Baine have a history, before 8.2 hits...
Great videos Nobbel!
If I was on that zeppelin when the mana bomb fell, I’d share the same look as Baine, and those others.
Shock, horror, and repulsion.
MoP: The Alliance became pro-active to prevent there ever being another the likes of Garrosh.
BfA: The Alliance being an active threat to the existence of the Horde leads to another, the likes of Garrosh
How? When Sylvanas killed all of the forsaken that had free will?
@@jimmcphearson7252 just curious, you're actually with sylvanas?
@@hashiramasenju3246
No sir.
I was a forsaken warlock until I read before the storm.
@@jimmcphearson7252 oh okay. Lol
Animelytical lolwhat? Alliance was passive through most of BfA. Its Sylvanus who stirred the shit.
is it okay if i use this for the @t sub?more info about tauren lore is welcome.
Poor Baine misses his daddy :C
That court thing was a gnome quest wasn't it?
Yeah, brawlers guild
I miss mop.
FOR BAINE! FOR THE TRUE HORDE!
My favourite race but no one plays horde on Argent Dawn 😔, its better RP on Alliance side, more events etc.
Baine builded the wall
Here hoping a 3rd video next expansion with baine dead in the end
Alliance could never end the Horde. How long have they tried to do that and failed?
Pff. I'll start Streaming with you. I'd love hanging out.
I think it'd be cool if some tauren defected to the alliance out of frustration with the leadership of the horde.
What music is playin in the backround of 15:00 ?
vote Baine for warchife, lava
Can’t wait to see what 8.2 brings, hype for Tauren heritage armour, here’s a wild crazy theory, Blizzard said we had to do war campaign in order to get it, what if the player becomes the next Chieftain Of Thunderbluff?
Tell me about Baine,Why does he wear the mask?
WoD and start of MoP sounds eerily similar to BfA...hmmm
I like early Baine even if he is somewhat naive on some fronts. It is a shame the current story in the latest expansion is just so god awful. I watched your PTR play with that flame dungeon crap and just I could not facepalm hard enough.
store mount :( i thought you were better than than 8:08
Bro , your avatar
but warlordrexx got cnd from blizzard
67th to like, fite me
When the game and lore are terminally ill and dying and you need to pump out content while the last 12 people playing the game are interested
Baine... such a traitor.
Proving you don't have the slightest fucking idea what the Horde means. We get it.
so hes always been a traitor neat
You call any body who isnt a slavish follower of undead cunt a “traitor” now?
Traitor of the Horde
Yes.... Sylvanas is definitely a traitor against the real Horde...and she needs to be burned and destroyed by all my horde characters.
TL;DR of Baines Bloodhoof Story
- biggest coward on the Horde site
- alliance bootlicker
- best friend with Anduin and Jaina
- hypocrite
Typical. The only sane person in the horde is called a coward because he's not a bloodthirsty maniac.
Baine is Lame..