Why the Gerudo Valley Theme in Ocarina of Time is such an Amazing Song

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  • On the edge of a harsh desert and the border to Hyrule, lives an encampment of women known as the Gerudo. Who are the Gerudo, what cultural references inspired the Gerudo Lore, and how did Koji Kondo compose the music for the Gerudo Valley Theme? Fascinatingly, the Gerudo Valley theme takes a lot of influence from Spanish Guitar! Please enjoy the next entry in our Zelda music analysis series on Gerudo Valley! This time we focus on Ocarina of Time's Gerudo Valley and Gerudo Valley Music Theory. Sorry it's been so long since the last Legend of Zelda Music Analysis video, time sort of got away from me, but I hope you enjoy the newest Ocarina of Time Music Theory, and that it makes clear why the Gerudo Valley Theme in Ocarina of Time is such an Amazing Song.
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    00:00 - Introduction and Cultural Theory
    7:11 - Music Analysis
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  • @SaveDataTeam
    @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +487

    What do you think about Gerudo Valley and it's music? Tell us about it below!
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    • @knitguyy9212
      @knitguyy9212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gerudo valley is my second favorite. Right behind clock town day 2

    • @generaljimmies3429
      @generaljimmies3429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      5:55 The spirit temple's Boss is Twinrova, not Twinmold

    • @apocryphalentertainment2456
      @apocryphalentertainment2456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I remember reaching the gerudo fortress for the first time and hearing this play, and omg has it played in my head time and time again every time I saw anything resembling a desert! Love this series man! Keep it up!

    • @alysdexia
      @alysdexia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      its, hick. Kristendom: more like Hæresydom; gentiles/nonvirgins/women cannot be Kristians; Orthodocsics, Catholics, Anglicans, Protestants are Petrists, papists, mishmash, Paulists as they do what Gospels expressly oppose like popes, family and marriage, conversion of foreigners, diet, wealth, eisèghèsis and mistranslation, public worship, and don’t do what they bid like drink poison, castration, play with snakes, heal sick (not with drugs as those incur death penalty for witchcraft in Revelation-bad news for sectarian hospitals), speak in tongues (not fake ones like Pentecostals), sell everything, buy a sword, cut off their sinful limbs, kill unbelievers, get killed for their faketh.

    • @dianabuttercup2818
      @dianabuttercup2818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So when will you get around to talking about the music and design for Lon Lon Ranch?

  • @mikereyes2488
    @mikereyes2488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4734

    I always wondered if Koji Kondo was like "you know what, I just feel like putting a Spanish flair to this level/song" and not really thinking of history/origin of the Gerudo people 😂

    • @Kagomai15
      @Kagomai15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +350

      That could be true, and it could also be unconscious knowledge or bias, but either way, the history and influences are there, and it's very interesting to learn :)

    • @hardcorecarlo
      @hardcorecarlo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      You could also say he listened Bamboleo and got inspired by it, you're welcome

    • @retrogamermax8287
      @retrogamermax8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      Well, Spain has some Arabian/Moorish origins to a good chunk of it's history so it makes a bit of sense to draw music off from Spanish culture for a middle eastern setting world in a video game.

    • @deansbian5607
      @deansbian5607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I’ve just started playing this game with my sister and when we got here I was like. did Enrique Iglesias write this

    • @StarBomber_4
      @StarBomber_4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deansbian5607 LOL

  • @LAM1895
    @LAM1895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1143

    My dad plays guitar for fun and I talked him into learning this tune. It was difficult for him because he didn’t know the style and it was a huge workout for him to keep the rhythm, but he managed to learn it and I accompanied him on my electronic keyboard by changing the sound to guitar or trumpet. We had fun playing this together 🙂

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      I love that! Thank you for sharing!

    • @cameronjadewallace
      @cameronjadewallace ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That's amazing! What a bonding moment

    • @yushen7492
      @yushen7492 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      share the outcome

    • @ayanamiayachanJ
      @ayanamiayachanJ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You have a cool dad

    • @Nico2much4em
      @Nico2much4em 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can he teach me this on guitar?

  • @brianmerritt5410
    @brianmerritt5410 ปีที่แล้ว +918

    It takes talent to create a track that slaps, but never gets annoying when the player is stuck in that level for hours.

    • @ATSaale
      @ATSaale ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Make this song a hit and totally ignorable.

    • @selenopheria
      @selenopheria ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Kondo would listen to his own music for hours just to make sure it wouldn't bore the player.

    • @Guurzak
      @Guurzak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      My wife made up lyrics to this tune because she was here for so long.
      Ihatethisplace, Ihatethisplace
      Ihatethisplace, ihatethisplace
      Ihatethisplace, Ihatethisplace
      Thisfuckinplace

    • @kevinerosa
      @kevinerosa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      *Water temple music has entered chat.

    • @trequor
      @trequor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kevinerosa That is the inverted opposite lol

  • @jackwhat5969
    @jackwhat5969 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    As a Portuguese man, as a history tour guide, as a fan of Zelda games, and as a fan of both fado and flamenco music... You've really done your research. Great video, I really appreciated this.

    • @rafazamigo
      @rafazamigo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haven't seen the video yet, but Gerudo Valley was also inspired by Fado?

    • @braziliantsar
      @braziliantsar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fado is underrated as hell. It needs to get the popularity flamenco has

  • @simonn2045
    @simonn2045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1725

    This is THE song I could listen to over and over and can find any excuse to just be in Gerudo Valley

    • @sushilampa8287
      @sushilampa8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The music is just a plus but gerudo ladies are the reason IM there

    • @GlyphicEnigma
      @GlyphicEnigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Here's the best excuse; play randomizer! :D

    • @bluezaton
      @bluezaton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Better excuse, make it your ringtone or alarm tone

    • @ao1778
      @ao1778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For me, it's Song of Storms and then this one for #1 and #2, respectively.

    • @johanneszollner9709
      @johanneszollner9709 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ur right love this song. Couldn't get enough. Tbh its a masterpiece and any gamer should know it cause its a big part of video game history and will ever be😍.

  • @Elbarbas
    @Elbarbas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1364

    As an andalusian myself and flamenco enthusiastic (and zelda player too) i wanna say that your video is pretty well researched, i liked a lot that you used video examples, you saying the elements names in Spanish and the respect, thanks for this video

  • @erikhendrickson59
    @erikhendrickson59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Koji Kondo has written DOZENS of songs that I could listen to literally an infinite number of times. The man is a fucking genius.

    • @MyUnquenchableThirst
      @MyUnquenchableThirst 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      the whole soundtrack to OoT is my jam. I had it on my ipod when I was in highschool and would listen to it on the bus for days

    • @Silver-qv2ow
      @Silver-qv2ow 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He was the master composer of almost every memorable Zelda and Mario song in the 90s and continued to lend his talents for the next decade or so. Now that he's only a mostly symbolic "advisor," I sadly feel like there aren't any catchy tunes in Zelda anymore. Nintendo will never find another Kondo.

  • @ddddavyy8383
    @ddddavyy8383 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    For me, this song always signified that you where heading toward the end of your quest, and was an accompanying track to spur you on, as if to say "this is it, keep going you're almost done". It really helps get you into the last long treck of your journey

    • @valsevenav
      @valsevenav 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This is a really great take, I had the exact same experience with it!

  • @GigglebunsUV
    @GigglebunsUV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    worth mentioning that i-bVII-bVI-V progression is also used heavily throughout Zelda's music, biggest one being the main theme. so the fact that it was used in this song as well as being the most common flamenco progression is definitely no coincidence

    • @Tazerboy10
      @Tazerboy10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      What's the i-bVII-bVI-V?
      (⬆️ - I'm not a musician nor an expert in sheet music...)

    • @GigglebunsUV
      @GigglebunsUV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Tazerboy10 its a minor chord progression, for instance in A minor the chords would be (A minor, G major, F major, E major)

    • @radioactivejackal
      @radioactivejackal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @Gigglebuns the progression you mention is not used in the OoT Gerudo Valley theme.
      Gerudo Valley: i - bVI - bVII - V
      Beginning fanfare to the main Legend of Zelda Overworld theme on the NES: I - bVII - bVI - V
      The first chord is implied to be the major tonic, I, rather than the minor tonic, i

    • @GigglebunsUV
      @GigglebunsUV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@radioactivejackal oh yeah! you're right, thank you

    • @tovi3280
      @tovi3280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn’t that a different chord progression?

  • @sweetmisslaura
    @sweetmisslaura 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I read a article when I was younger that Koji Kondo said this was influenced by flamenco music. My dad does not play video games but playing this as a kid my dad loved the music always said reminded him of home

  • @finalbreath15
    @finalbreath15 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The culture mashing in LoZ is just so well done and nothing ever feels out of place.

    • @fuarkstyle
      @fuarkstyle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Similar to what Oda does with OP

    • @Jiub_SN
      @Jiub_SN หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fuarkstylewho? Oh wait you mean the guy writing the never ending story manga right?

  • @LosLibrosNosHacenLibres
    @LosLibrosNosHacenLibres 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Hi! As an Andalusian I have to say that everything you say is just perfect.
    About the trumpets, the way they are played reminds me of 'Semana Santa', or Easter, a Christian holiday in where trumpets are the one or maybe the main instrument. It may make sense with the idea of mixed culture, islamic and christian, that you say in the video.
    Great work!

    • @arianewinter4266
      @arianewinter4266 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      muslim ruled andalusian is one of the best examples in human history for religions peacefuly coexisting. like it was not perfect, nothing ever is, but it was way better then when chritianity took over, outlawed other religions and invented the inquisition to hunt jews . . .

  • @aesuradracaheorte3585
    @aesuradracaheorte3585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    "spirit temple and it's boss, twinmold" how did twinmold move from termina to hyrule, and turn from giant flying worms into witches? and where did twinrova go?

    • @TigerTabCat1
      @TigerTabCat1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Lol I paused the video at this point to search for a comment like this

    • @22pepperjack
      @22pepperjack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@TigerTabCat1 just did the exact same thing lol

    • @grasshopper29
      @grasshopper29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TigerTabCat1 same here

    • @Yxiomel
      @Yxiomel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      The only other one of this guys videos that I've seen is his Majoras Mask one in which he calls Twinmold 'Twinrova'...

    • @kurisutirando-san
      @kurisutirando-san 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TigerTabCat1 I thought I was the only one that did this!

  • @piousthepious
    @piousthepious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    As someone interested in European catholic churches and Gregorian chanting, I would definitely LOVE a video analyzing the temple of time no matter how long. Literally it was what I first looked for in the playlist and I’m glad you at least mentioned the reason why you haven’t done so yet!

    • @sacredyveltal4688
      @sacredyveltal4688 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      OMG Same! I'm leaving this comment here just in case the uploader replies!
      Oh and if I see anything I'll post a _link_ in a separate reply or something

    • @piousthepious
      @piousthepious ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sacredyveltal4688 Thanks so much haha!

    • @sacredyveltal4688
      @sacredyveltal4688 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@piousthepious You are welcome, fellow history nerd! 📚📜

    • @sacredyveltal4688
      @sacredyveltal4688 ปีที่แล้ว

      @engineer gaming I noticed it! How cool is that! ^^ Maybe that means we will get a video related to that topic soon :0

    • @VultureSausage
      @VultureSausage ปีที่แล้ว +7

      One year later and Zak delivers.
      th-cam.com/video/UF-NWkqmoIk/w-d-xo.html

  • @ikersanchezcarmona9363
    @ikersanchezcarmona9363 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    As a Andalusian myself, more specifically as a "Granadino" I loved the way you explained our background history and how respectful you have been with Flamenco and our culture, you got a new subscriber for sure!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Thank you so much! 😁

    • @Jiub_SN
      @Jiub_SN หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you Christian? Don't make me report you to the inquisition

    • @settheory2219
      @settheory2219 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Le chien d'andalou was a great film

  • @Ceridwyn82
    @Ceridwyn82 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This song always makes me cry… it’s mesmerizingly, hauntingly, but upliftingly beautiful. It’s always struck me deeply, emotionally in ways I can’t put into words. 1000% my favorite. But there are so many amazing scores in the Zelda music universe.

  • @dsramsey
    @dsramsey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    Aside from everything that comes with the song itself, I think that part of what makes it so amazing is its in the context in the game: after the gameplay slog of the Water Temple and the darkness of the Shadow Temple, here comes this unique, upbeat song that's unlike anything else in the game. Add to that the fact that you're entering the final area of the game, so there is also a sense of building momentum towards the end, which the uptempo song captures perfectly.

    • @cullenlatham2366
      @cullenlatham2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      well, that is assuming you save spirit for last, and that you didnt get it spoiled by completionist urges as a kid (with a bean spot, 2 heart pieces, and 2 g. skultulas) or adult (you dont even need the bow to clear the fortress, though it is helpful. heck, with enough skill, you dont even need the hookshot. On top of all that, the biggoron sword quest will take you to the gorge, and it is one that is more beneficial to do early). With all the chances to have the music spoiled, it can seem impossible to save spirit temple for last, as the music will unconsciously attract players to the area the moment it is available.
      Then comes a case to be made that spirit is intended before shadow, as there is evidence for both.

    • @sanoichiro
      @sanoichiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed for sure. It is very good to have such fresh energy at that point in the game. It reminds me of the Dark World theme in Link to the Past as that song serves a similar role in reinvigorating you while at the same time giving the game a more mature feel. It's hard to put into words.

    • @Ryleeman54number2
      @Ryleeman54number2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@cullenlatham2366 I always goto Gerudo Valley last because its so far out of the damn way, and honestly I think the area is a bit annoying

    • @rinbin9772
      @rinbin9772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's wild to me some people consider the spirit temple the last one instead of shadow. Looking at the crest for medallions in the UI even hints at shadow being the final destination as it's the last medallion clockwise from the light medallion with forest being the first (where you're encouraged and expected to go first once you begin exploring temples).

    • @cullenlatham2366
      @cullenlatham2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@rinbin9772 there is evidence for both. The medallion wheel is the go-to for the shadow argument, but Navi says spirit last, prelude warping away straight to light arrows, the dungeon being the most mechanically complex in the game, the eye of truth is needed to reach spirit and is more a shadow item, hover boots help with deep sand mobility, and finalizing young link's story before the final boss are all suggest spirit is intended as last.

  • @MaxiGoethling
    @MaxiGoethling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +465

    Just a little info: Midi is not an audio format, it's a control protocol that only contains instructions. The way those instructions are interpreted determines how it sounds. Many modern orchestral soundtracks are written completely in midi with virtual instruments and often you don't even notice it.

    • @einarmb
      @einarmb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I came for this, and was not disappointed.

    • @yiurock4084
      @yiurock4084 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@einarmb that's what she said

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It leaves a lot of room for the sound device interpreting that control protocol, in determining how it sounds. That''s why sound cards like the Sound Blaster Awe-32 and Awe-64, and especially external MIDI devices like the Roland MT-32, are popular (and expensive) among retro-computer collectors. They can turn a (relatively) boring retro-game's MIDI soundtrack into an orchestral performance.

    • @catfishvonbaron
      @catfishvonbaron ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlackEpyon With that said, can the games original soundtrack be turned into an orchestral masterpiece using the same method?

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@catfishvonbaron 90's game MIDIs sound REALLY good on a Roland, but if you're looking for an orchestra, you'd probably need more than 9 channels.

  • @Matthew-zs8nm
    @Matthew-zs8nm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    And more than 20 years later, I'm still learning more and more about how much of a true masterpiece this game really was.
    This video is incredible. Thanks so much!

    • @Telverston
      @Telverston 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      agreed. Try also, Ocarina of Time - A Masterclass in Subtext, if you haven't already.

    • @fuarkstyle
      @fuarkstyle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IS*

  • @ero_bernal1767
    @ero_bernal1767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    As an andalucian, I am very impressed by your explanation of the flamenco elements in the song. Well done :)

  • @LynxWolf9309
    @LynxWolf9309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +697

    So I Just binged the whole series you've made for an hour. And I love listening to the history and architecture of the different Temples and the way the music was created and put together. Really puts a cool perspective and makes me have even more respect for the series. Now I'm waiting for this one amazing!!! :DD

    • @ScalesOfSerenity
      @ScalesOfSerenity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too!!!

    • @echothebm
      @echothebm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    • @Tazerboy10
      @Tazerboy10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, but I did that awhile back...

    • @tremblence
      @tremblence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You gloss over the muslim invasion of Spain.... don't mention the massacres
      The Christians reclaimed that was STOLEN from them which you basically slandered and tried to demonize
      This video tries to demonize Christians, in reality it was muslims who invaded and massacred them.... the Spanish had EVERY RIGHT to reclaim their land with force
      We should respect all cultures, not constantly try to demonize Europeans and Christianity... if Zelda OOT was made today, I guarantee they would try to demonize Europeans with it

    • @ChubCoder
      @ChubCoder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tremblence what are you on about?
      It's a video showing certain references, that's it. STFU and enjoy or leave.

  • @JeffreydeKogel
    @JeffreydeKogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I really like how you link real world history to ingame aspects; it's like taking a theoretical peek into the minds of the creators and their possible inspiration.

    • @paranoid_moose
      @paranoid_moose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s almost like hidden world building, much like the journals you’d find in Breath of the Wild

  • @MyHam-os4bq
    @MyHam-os4bq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Upbeat, but mournful and tense is such a great way to describe this song. The sound completely drowns you in nostalgia. I recently started replaying ocarina of time. I hadn’t heard this song in over 20 years but soon as I heard this in Gerudo Valley I was instantly transported back to my childhood. Suddenly, it was the only part of the map I ACTUALLY remembered. Awesome video.

  • @xenorayy
    @xenorayy ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The way you explain how the instruments play different melodies makes me imagine this whole song as a dance, this track is immortal at this point, we'll be hearing for years to come

  • @kmratliff6592
    @kmratliff6592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I love that you slipped in the theme from the Aztec level from DK64. Both of these tracks slap and bring back so many memories for me.

    • @oachkatzl7737
      @oachkatzl7737 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same, i was like: 'wait ist that..? it is! i love it!'

  • @jaehaalexander1172
    @jaehaalexander1172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    God I love this song. I love all of the content of your channel but I do have to say as someone who grew up with Zelda and LOVES music this series is my absolute favorite! I love how you break down all the cultural references and history and then just the music itself is just *chef's kiss* don't worry about the time it took! For the quality these videos are I'm sure many of us are willing to wait! What are you thinking of covering next? What is your next favorite Zelda song that you would like to break down?

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I might look into deku palace next before hopping into another game. I wanted to do a general vid covering ocarina songs, but 8 bit music theory kind of covered that, and I love his stuff. So maybe that or the clocktown music from Majora’s.

    • @jaehaalexander1172
      @jaehaalexander1172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@SaveDataTeam ohhhhh!! That music SLAPS! I look forward to your next musical analysis!

  • @phosphophyllite4591
    @phosphophyllite4591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As an Andalussian myself its really interesting hearing foreigners talk about all this: Its, pun intended, music to my ears.

  • @LazyNVersions
    @LazyNVersions ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’ve always loved the Gerudo, when I was younger I didn’t notice Ganon was a Gerudo himself but it never diminished even after learning he was.
    Tall red haired all woman tribe? Well as an average height red haired woman I love the Gerudo, and the song always catches me off guard but it’s probably the main reason I keep staying in that area. I’m glad you made this video, it’s a cool one :D

    • @NibNibNib
      @NibNibNib 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not only are they incredibly cool, but the Gerudo swordswomen being the only thing in the game that comes off as more skilled in combat than link is awesome. They flip, block and actually feel pretty smart compared to regular enemies

  • @Gboysonic
    @Gboysonic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Gerudo valley has always been my favorite song from the zelda series. I even listen to the smash bros remix of it for the extra flare they put into it. I hope you do zora's domain theme next. Ocarina of time as well as the updated version they did in twilight princess

    • @eve_the_human
      @eve_the_human 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did that too with Smash Bros!!😅

    • @cuterpooter
      @cuterpooter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Smash remix is one of the few times I'd say a remix is better than an original.
      There's a 15 minute loop version of it on TH-cam that is my go-to "time to tackle some mentally taxing project" theme music 🎶

  • @KathrynBurke713
    @KathrynBurke713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I missed seeing these videos on analyzing the LoZ music! I'm so happy that your doing another video on it again! Can't wait to watch this!

  • @TruePartyKing
    @TruePartyKing ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, learning about the complexities of the song legit made me cry tears of beautiful admiration. You have earned a sub good sir!

  • @joeo3377
    @joeo3377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    As a note, the Shakespeare play "Othello" is pronounced with the "th" sound (as in "the" or "with"; θ). The Verdi opera "Otello," which is based on the Shakespeare play, is pronounced with the hard "t".

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yeah, it’s the weird thing, where my degree is actually in acting, but I was surrounded by so many opera people who all said “Otello” growing up, that it has stuck with me for so long 😰

    • @joeo3377
      @joeo3377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@SaveDataTeam It took me a while to realize that the two different pronunciations refer to two different works! No worries, just trying to be helpful.

    • @WilliamAhlert
      @WilliamAhlert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I LOVE OTELLO. LOVE IT. SO GOOD. AH.

    • @emebent
      @emebent ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a note, you provided an incorrect example 😂 the voiced th in “the” is not the same as the unvoiced th in “Othello.”

    • @joeo3377
      @joeo3377 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emebent They sound the same to my ears, so does that make us both wrong?

  • @isaac3127
    @isaac3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Literally watched all the temple music videos again a couple days ago and I’m so glad this is finally coming out

  • @jordicorfont
    @jordicorfont 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Hi, I just want to add that the G# in the melody is a passing note. It's the most common note out chord in melodies. So it's no strange the strong use of it.
    Good video!

    • @monoverantus
      @monoverantus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was gonna say the same. A passing note that stays within the implied scale is probably the least unexpected part of the song.

    • @h3o635
      @h3o635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah this was the only thing in the vid that kind of had me scratching my head… like every melody out there has passing notes, music would be boring without them. That and saying the trumpet part was harmony, when it is unison at first. Loved the vid regardless.

    • @jacobcowan3599
      @jacobcowan3599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also, when playing the chord and emphasizing the note to show its dissonance, you played a G natural instead of a G sharp. The G sharp is waaaay less dissonant in that chord, especially when it's up the octave.

    • @oneilmw
      @oneilmw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the history lesson was much more enlightening than the music theory lesson, and I'm not generally a fan of history, and I am generally a fan of music, so that's saying something.

    • @lon8005
      @lon8005 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobcowan3599 thank you i was looking for this comment for so long

  • @MrJdcirbo
    @MrJdcirbo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the strumming techniques common in flamenco (and showcased in the live recreation shown in the video) is called a "rasgueado" and it's performed by sequentially strumming the strings with all of the fingers of the right hand.

  • @OGBuddah
    @OGBuddah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It feels good to know I am not alone in feeling this song is special in some way, but to think someone actually did the work to answer that question is absolutely awesome! Thank you for the hard work good Sir. This is very much appreciated.
    Side note: Years ago I found an OC remix of this song and somehow they turned what was already amazing into something beyond greatness. Again, simply my opinion and I hold no vested interest nor know the artist, but it deserves to be known. If someone is curious, a quick search for "Mamacitas in My Valley" by Diggi Dis will answer any questions.

  • @masterbasura1
    @masterbasura1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I met you with your "Ace Attorney with an Actual Lawyer" videos, because I'm spanish and I wanted learn more english (and I like Ace Attorney), but I love these videos too! I love how you explained the cultural references from the Gerudo Valley Theme, I was with a smile in my face when you started talking about the spanish guitar and the moor influence, this last because I remember studied it a years ago. Our culture is a beautiful thing, and I love it reaches so many people, thank you

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you so much!! (And your English is great! I wouldn’t have known you are still learning! 😁)

    • @masterbasura1
      @masterbasura1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

  • @silentspirit8923
    @silentspirit8923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Gerudo Valley was my childhood! The music was so upbeat and gave a sense of mystery. The desert is a mysterious place, who know what secrets lay deep beneath the sands.
    And I agree, IT ABSOLUTELY SLAPS!

  • @tossingturnips
    @tossingturnips ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Gerudo Valley theme has always been my favorite OoT song and I love how deep you went into the cultural influences as well as history of those influences that helped Kondo create this banger. As you mentioned in your video going over all the ocarina tracks in the game, the limitations definitely helped foster creativity.

  • @Jay_Ira
    @Jay_Ira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I didn't need another reason to love this amazing song. But thank you so much for enlightening me with the history lesson and cultural significance! What a true masterpiece and artist we were blessed with. Take care my friend, looking forward to the next one!

  • @JuanYusteDelValle
    @JuanYusteDelValle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Spaniard here and I can only say: Wow. Thoroughly researched. Amazing video

  • @LoveCrumb
    @LoveCrumb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you so much for continuing this series! This is truly the most interesting Zelda series that exists on youtube that I've found so far. I LOVE how you go into depth on the historical references and influences before you go into more detail on the music composition. It enhances my appreciation for the music and makes the lore behind Zelda even richer! I've turned my dad into a Zelda music fan thanks to your videos!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aw thank you! 😅 I’m glad you and your dad enjoy it!

  • @SmartDrug
    @SmartDrug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm blown away at the detail and complexity you delved into here. I've always loved this song, thank you for allowing me to further explore it.

  • @Brittow
    @Brittow ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Koji Kondo is an absolute master. Definitely my favorite Zelda song

  • @dwarch186
    @dwarch186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'd say that the Gerudo Fortress was inspired more by the Cliff Palace at Mesa Verde. It even has the cliff overhang above. Thanks for another great video!

  • @jbeckwith4097
    @jbeckwith4097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Having a V chord in a minor key with a sharp 3rd isn't that crazy, particularly given that the next chord is a i. It makes a very basic and common cadential figure. It would probably stand out more to a Western listener if the 3rd weren't made sharp, (A minor v chord) giving it a more modal sound.

    • @fernandogiongo
      @fernandogiongo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I also found that statement misleading. The major V chord in the minor mode is absolutely conventional. Also when he calls out a passing tone as something unusual.

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Videos like this only exist to make the people that like the music to feel like they are superior for liking it

    • @McLovin201
      @McLovin201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fernandogiongo especially since it shares most notes with an F diminished. Leads perfectly into the F#m

    • @nloc1929
      @nloc1929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah, he didn't really analyse what was going on musically very well. All of the things he mentioned were very surface level observations and didn't explain why the piece is so well constructed.
      Aside from the points already mentioned about passing tones and using a raised seventh being so common it's basically irrelevant, he ignored the entire B section and just called it "continuing the melody", he didn't mention the structure of the melody and the use of repetition through systems, the subtle changes in the ends of each phrase to create interest, etc.
      It was a good video, but the musical analysis was effectively pointless.

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@nloc1929 no it was absolutely a bad videp, he has absolutely no clue what he is talking about and most of his argument is likely second-hand

  • @damiansaucedo9951
    @damiansaucedo9951 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I learned this song on guitar and now I'm learning the song on piano 10 years later, Why? Because it indeed freakin slaps.

  • @tellmeaboutyourgame314
    @tellmeaboutyourgame314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brought an actual tear to my eye . Your analysis is doing my nostalgia justice

  • @graham9125
    @graham9125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's a very common practice to play the Dominant (V) chord as a major when playing in a minor key because the 3rd and b7th notes of the Major V7 chord both (use chromatic motion to) "lead" into the 1st and the 5th notes of the Tonic (I/i) Chord.
    This is why even though the Major V isn't technically a diatonic chord in minor, it still sees plenty of practical use, especially when used in the 4th barre of a measure, followed by a I.

    • @vinh_em
      @vinh_em 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly. Save Data said that that leading tone is subverting expectations because it is an altered note of the scale, but I actually believe that most people expect a dominant V chord in any flamenco/flamenco-adjacent songs. Think about the Andalusian cadence for example. i-VII-VI-V sounds more natural than i-VII-VI-v

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the guy who made this video has no clue what he is talking about

  • @soulfullyginger.9804
    @soulfullyginger.9804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This song brings back memories of riding the bluffs in a four banger with a burned CD of video game music. This one was on repeat.
    Great job, quality content.

  • @alw06git
    @alw06git ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely LOVE the time and research you put into detailing the history, architecture, & culture portions of these videos. I hope you decide to dedicate a video series to that in video games. I could watch you present that stuff for hours man, it is so fascinating to me

  • @willardlarkinsnow5622
    @willardlarkinsnow5622 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This song alone made me love the Gerudo Valley portion of the game. It sounds like pure adventure

  • @jackmyowl
    @jackmyowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The acapella version of this song is really awesome as well. Smooth McGoove did a cover, it's even better with the captions on 🤣

    • @Al-cp2kg
      @Al-cp2kg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Butter it up, up

    • @jackmyowl
      @jackmyowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Al-cp2kg you got the reference!

  • @n3loangelo
    @n3loangelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the breakdown of history that goes into this. Thank you for another awesome video!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Happy that folks are enjoying it!

  • @aegisring
    @aegisring 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all of your videos, they are always so fun to watch, you always learn something cool and I really enjoy that. Thanks for the videos

  • @scoleosis3569
    @scoleosis3569 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do more of these. they are SOOOO good! I would love to hear about the music in all the other Zelda games as well. I didn't know I needed this until I heard it.

  • @scratchedaviators1254
    @scratchedaviators1254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dope I loved your coverage on the 64 bit era Zelda osts. Awesome to see the series still alive.

  • @mathewmcgee8029
    @mathewmcgee8029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Right around 5:59 you call Twin Rova Twin Mold on accident. Great video, I look forward to the Temple of Time deep dive on cathedrals, gregorian chant & the sages.

    • @andresgarciadecortazarbaez1512
      @andresgarciadecortazarbaez1512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The best part is the fact that in the stone tower temple video, he called Twinmold Twinrova lmao

    • @RickyBBlessed
      @RickyBBlessed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think its a running joke

    • @mathewmcgee8029
      @mathewmcgee8029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RickyBBlessed I'd love that.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, after I got inundated with comments on the stone tower video correcting me, I wanted to see how many people would notice if I said it wrong here too 😅

  • @ModelsAtWar
    @ModelsAtWar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely love that you used DK64 Angry Aztec ost as background music for a part of the video. Now it makes me want some more music analysis from other games like DK (and Banjo) possibly with commentary included by Grant Kirkhope and/or David Wise.

  • @arcticmoon5230
    @arcticmoon5230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was the first song I ever learned to play on my guitar, I was so in love with this song and all the others from OoT and MM that I learned the guitar just to play these melodies. I never realized just how rich the history of this song was, it makes me ecstatic to be playing a song with such interesting lore.

  • @Aquiles_Maciel
    @Aquiles_Maciel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG! I can't wait for this new video! Your work is amazing!

  • @RSquaredOnline
    @RSquaredOnline 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This may just be the best made video I've ever watched on TH-cam in the last 10 years. The breakdown and reintroduction of the instruments gave me chills.

  • @TheDarkopsis
    @TheDarkopsis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just discovered your channel with this video and that's a BIG YES.
    Thanks for the hard work, it really pays off as the video is fluid and enjoyable. It won't be the last time I watch it for sure !
    God I'm thankful for the internet people, making quality content so that I can educate myself a little on such interesting topics !

  • @wasosky1000
    @wasosky1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey man, this is a great video!
    I just wanted to point out that you played a G at 11:35 instead of a G#

    • @BlueMeeple
      @BlueMeeple 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Needed to browse this far down in the comments to see that I wasn't imagining things.

    • @cactusowo1835
      @cactusowo1835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlueMeeple same

  • @sdw-hv5ko
    @sdw-hv5ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    damn the historical and cultural analysis provided in this video is amazing, adds so much depth to the world-building of the game

  • @alignthestars
    @alignthestars 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is one of those songs that, no matter how many times I've heard it (and no matter the iteration) - it just makes me emotional because of how GOOD it is. Thank you so much for the history behind the song - it makes me love it even more!

  • @dennisgallaher3640
    @dennisgallaher3640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still fondly remember the first time I entered Gerudo valley and heard this amazing theme for the first time. Great video.

  • @GlyphicEnigma
    @GlyphicEnigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    When you think about the great musical geniuses of history, you may think Mozart, Bach, etc. I think Koji Kondo. Guy really has a way with sounds.

    • @Plepsfoko
      @Plepsfoko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It may sound like over praising but I really think it’s true. He’s influenced and inspired thousands, if not millions of people and has written multiple songs that cut straight to my core and make me cry like nothing else. He’s my favorite composer by far

    • @JustMarty
      @JustMarty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Can't forget Nobuo Uematsu.

    • @Ryleeman54number2
      @Ryleeman54number2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I kind of agree. I more place him with the likes of John Williams and Danny Elfman

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAO absolutely not

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Plepsfoko your emotions don't matter and do not impact the quality of his music

  • @zeldaenby224
    @zeldaenby224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've missed this series

  • @Oldrockking93
    @Oldrockking93 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whaaaat an excellent analysis. THANK YOU for this, this was both beautiful and well constructed as well as marvelously educational and now i feel like i appreciate my favorite video game track 10 times more now that i understand its proper history. Youve added depth to something for me I've been captivated with for almost 25 years. Thank you

  • @OmegaLisk0
    @OmegaLisk0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta love discovering a new channel, always makes my day. Great video, cheers!

  • @elgato9o
    @elgato9o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OMG
    HOW I'VE WAITED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS AGAIN. BEST MUSIC SERIES ON ALL OF TH-cam

  • @KBBeats
    @KBBeats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Such a nostalgic and unforgettable piece.

  • @ketanhein
    @ketanhein 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!!! I've been waiting for new content like this!! Please keep doing these videos

  • @TheQuashingoftheTub
    @TheQuashingoftheTub ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man this song was so influential to me and my sisters. My sis arranged this for her senior orchestra song, and I used to have this memorized on piano lol

  • @riakez
    @riakez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    At 5:59 you say the boss is Twinmold, but you meant to say Twinrova ;)
    Great video as always, thank you for the time you put into them

    • @tako-sensei6072
      @tako-sensei6072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      XD

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you! (And Twinmold was an intentional joke after my accidental mistake in the stone tower video 👀)

    • @tako-sensei6072
      @tako-sensei6072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaveDataTeam oh of course. i doubt anyone could make a mistake like that after the amount of times you had people remind you about it.

  • @TheDJman248
    @TheDJman248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    excellent video. Found the cultural aspect of it all very interesting!
    Just one simple little goof I noticed:
    5:59 Pretty sure the boss' name is Twinrova, with Twinmold being a boss in Majora's Mask. That's all!

    • @DDRMAX300
      @DDRMAX300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noticed that too, Koume and Kotake, their fusion or whatever it was (the younger looking boss with both ice and fire powers) is the one called Twinrova

  • @dontpanic2487
    @dontpanic2487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At last!!! Absolutely love your Zelda Music Analysis Series. Top notch and entertaining :)

  • @_korepsyche_
    @_korepsyche_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love this video so much, it is very well done. I had an inkling growing up that Gerudo Valley was inspired by flamenco, but now I am like "Wow Koji Kondo really thought of everything," and I feel like my culture is very much represented. I feel like Gerudo Valley will always have a special place in my heart.

  • @ModelsAtWar
    @ModelsAtWar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, if TH-cam existed when I was a kid, and I had these videos. I actually probably would’ve went down an entirely different life path and went into Music. Great work!

  • @fredrickgamer9128
    @fredrickgamer9128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow. I didn't know that there was this much history behind game music. This was a very entertaining and educational video.

  • @fizzybubbles715
    @fizzybubbles715 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for these! I’ve only played A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, & Majora’s Mask & their music is one of my favorite parts. Learning about the history through these videos is so enlightening. I can’t wait to see more of these!

  • @LuizFRdeO
    @LuizFRdeO 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I parachuted into this video upon searching for content discussing the music in Zelda. this is great. fantastic work man. thank you for your channel.

  • @les5503
    @les5503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yoooo I did a lot of research into the Middle Eastern influence on Spanish culture and music in my college music classes, so I was delighted to hear you talk about that. Super nostalgic now haha. It's fascinating, and this is a great video!
    Also bold choice to open yourself up to more Twinmold/Twinrova comments, I laughed out loud when I heard that lol

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!! I was proud of that subtle joke 😅 we’ll see how many people tell me I said the wrong name 😂

  • @Professor_Wisteria_
    @Professor_Wisteria_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    having lived in Spain, i can safely say this song embodies the spirit of flamenco perfectly.
    it's incredible

  • @Chaofahn1987
    @Chaofahn1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic series that earned my subscription click. I love that you even delve into the real-life inspirations and architecture of the areas/dungeons, which work together with the music and sound design to immerse the player.
    It'll probably be a while before you get there, but I'd love an analysis of the criminally underrated soundtrack of Breath of the Wild. Until then, keep up the good work!

  • @loley975
    @loley975 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your series, keep it up Zak 👍🏽

  • @superluigi2965
    @superluigi2965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the Gerudo Valley theme! It always gets me pumped when I hear it!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is a certified banger!

  • @NoahNCopeland
    @NoahNCopeland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Absolutely excellent information and video!
    I must be THAT guy for second. at 10:06, it's important to make that the distinction that midi is not an audio format per say, as midi itself contains no audio or sound. Midi is just instructions. The limitations in this case are going to come more from the level (or lack there of) of sophistication of the samples and their implementation. Which, on the N64, was bottlenecked by cartridge space.

  • @GhibliNova
    @GhibliNova ปีที่แล้ว +1

    coolest video game analysis I've ever seen. I love history, so seeing all this tied together... *chefs kiss*

  • @benoitlaforest-ardel8312
    @benoitlaforest-ardel8312 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make more of the series! I love learning about the « science » behind the Zelda soundtracks! Especially the dungeons! 💚

  • @lowcursedmg
    @lowcursedmg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He said twinmold but the boss is named twinrova. Anyone else notice?
    Wonderful video and history lesson as always tho!!!

    • @lightbrand776
      @lightbrand776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was looking for this comment, twinmold is from Majora

  • @point-five-oh6249
    @point-five-oh6249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't know how to play guitar, but strangely enough I was able to catch on to everything going on since I do play the tuba/sousaphone (and damn good at tuba I might add). I absolutely loved all the music from the N64 LoZ games. Truly wonderful pieces of music with complexity, yet easy to follow along with, which makes it more easily liked by people that may not be big music nerds. Nintendo really needs to make a solid remaster of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. Even if they don't have the time to mess with it, they will find thousands of independent developers (I also graduated school for game dev) who would be more than willing to bring their favorite classics back to life, for the sake of nostalgia itself.

  • @Werewolf914
    @Werewolf914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this series so much, the history, the breakdown of the song it's self, everything, I hope to see more in the future.

  • @LuzByT
    @LuzByT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hi an andaluz here. Just wanna say that I freaking love this video and that thanks to u I realise that Gan is a ruman, a hot ruman, Hyrule is like Spain, France and some other parts of the world mixed and that Zelda could be an Austria's family member. Nice.

  • @LoveFactoryParties
    @LoveFactoryParties 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video has no right being as good at it is. Awesome history lesson, insane production quality, sick ass music.

  • @jettblack3412
    @jettblack3412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m sure you’ve already gotten a ton of requests for this already but you should also check out the pirates fortress from MM! I think that would be sick to hear what you have to tell us about their “pirate culture” and the music of the mini dungeon as well

  • @philosophicaljay3449
    @philosophicaljay3449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found this series today, you have earned a subscriber. Love it.

  • @aligacrystenia
    @aligacrystenia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know why I love this kind of breakdown so much. I'm not any kind of musician or anything, but it's really interesting :)