Pro tip, the FV4005 machine gun is a ballistic match for the 183mm, making aiming a doddle even at very long ranges. Fire a few spotting rounds, when they hit just fire the main gun.
it would seem that the centurion mk1 segment is a bit outdated since there is volumetric now and the turret is extremely strong i had two panthers continuously shooting my turret face for about 2 minutes before one shot my lfp.
@@nikolabegonja5490 highly disagree... i played many RB battles with my spaded pt-76 and the stab is disgustingly powerful againts tigers and wobling panthers
British tanks are in a grey spot, they did and they are doing great in the real world but in a game...very map dependent. Being slow increases awareness quite a lot.
Love seeing these videos! I just spent two days spading the damn Firecrest, so I'm not a huge fan of Britain at the moment, but I'm looking forward to 6.7 one day.
Heh. Firecrest is much more fun now that it's at 3.3. It being at 4.0 sucked because its big advantage (in my opinion), the speed, wasn't great there, and it would get chased down and ripped to shreds by 190s and 109fs. Now, it can blow a pz 4 f2 to kingdom come then bugger out or bully a stuka or something. Much more enjoyable.
After the new Britain Nerfs if you're wondering what's changed, basically when he talks about the 20-pounder and says something along the lines of 'you'll have no trouble penetrating most tanks, so you don't always need to use APDS' replace that thinking with 'now, you always have to use APDS as facing tanks which frontally can be easily penetrated with the AP round will be a relatively rare occurrence'. TL:DR- when using any British tank with the 20 pounder with AP/APDS as a consequence of the nerf you no longer have the luxury of being able to main the AP round with a few APDS for heavier targets. APDS is now a must.
Can't wait for the horror that is the higher tiers, in the middle of grinding the Challenger 2 and I can wholeheartedly say the crawl through 10.0 matches with the stock chieftain mk10 is one of the worst experiences you can have in War Thunder... aside from early british naval of course.
i grinded chief mk10, chally mk2 and im almost at chally mk.3 by just playing assault arcade. i played like 1 pvp with chief mk3 and 2 with the warrior. thats it. i really enjoy 7.0 line up so i only play that.
@@ronaldmacdonald8667 I did not need to be reminded of that image. And yeah gaijin didn't even try to balance it at all, Fairmile D (3.7) and German K2 also (3.7) just look at those two and wonder where it all went wrong
I'd like to add that the 6.7 lineup is quite expensive to repair. Also the armor is rendered useless by heat-fs in uptiers or when facing Ru-251. So for grinding SL, I would recommend the 4.7/5.0 lineup or playing Air.
Hm, never thought of that. I run my 6.7 lineup with the Strv and Wyvern (Even 1.7BR higher it still kicks ass) so coming out positive is never an issue, but if someone doesn't have them then that would definitely be an issue.
Kottery I typically come out positive myself. I run the Wyvern also (it is awesome in GF) but don’t always use it. I seem to make money with the Tortoise because it takes so many hits
1 huge drawback for vast amount of Brits IV tiers is: economics. They're too expensive when you have no premium account. Lost game with 3 kills and 1 death? Negative SL balance.
Bit late but if anyone is interested, the centurion 1 and charioteer are actually both at 5.7 in Arcade. So if you play/don’t mind arcade and want to grind them, they actually form quite a decent lineup in Arcade battles (with either comet or challenger as a backup). I’d say the cent 1 performs extremely well at 5.7 and the extra mobility in arcade makes it really fun and it isn’t worth missing out on
I agree with all except the Centurion Mk1. I feel it's an amazing tank, personally that is. I was able to research ALL it's upgrades in a single afternoon after getting the tank! It's armor isn't perfect, but it's good enough that I bounce a lot of shots. That cannon amazingly goes through the front of Panthers with the SABOT. It's mobility is the only thing I feel it lacks and it helps me from not over extending myself. But at 5.7 it is pretty hard to get a reliable line up for it if your maining it.
I play this when it got bumped to 6.0. And dear lord, is this thing effective sometimes. You can generally have at least one or two kills, but sometimes I’ve gone on anywhere from 5-9 kill rampages, pulling off 3 against 1s and flanking anything. Punching through panthers, tigers, and jumbos with no problem, and just hiding away with the wonderful reverse speed. I also think it’s a wonderful tank when used properly, because damn is it fun to just unexist anything.
I play the Charioteer like a British Hellcat and flank around the edges of the map to shoot tanks in the side. I use it in my 6.7 lineup and if it’s a big map I’ll use it as my first spawn or you can take it out later in the battle and it works great to mop up spread out vehicles or cap points. Don’t stop to shoot if the enemy is looking at you and when you do stop pivot sideways or pull a 180 so you can get away quickly after firing. If your not sure you can get away before the enemies react pop smoke right before you fire the wide smoke screen is great for covering your escape.
The Charioteer had a 105 gun whit a stabilizer I think it was the Charioteer Mk.9 or 10. The tank would look suck whit it. Sadly gaijin doesn't want to add another "Hellcat" like tank. Especially gaijin hating UK. Fun fact about FV4005 The limited turret traverse is intentional. When fired at a 50° (gun away from side) it would literally flip the tank itself due to massive breach kickback.
@@25xxfrostxx Nobody asked for Chinese. And once again Gaijin hates the UK Especially not giving the UK they 10.0 helicopter That is the British Apache.
I got the Prince along with the other three Brits when the line was introduced. As you said, to begin with it was just damn unkillable while being able to take down anything. I still love the thing to death, still play it regularly. However, to my point; what you forgot to mention in the 'Pro' list, the Prince is without doubt the best looking tank in the game, and being so slow you get lottsa time to just eyeball it while you're heading into battle.
Personally, apperently this is an unpopular opinion, but I think the M4A3 (76) looks absolutely sublime. Some stars on the hull sides and turret and mmmm that's a good looking tank
10:50 is the sweet spot shot, you disable his ability to point his gun at you and disable his mobility at the same time, effectively making it an easy 2shot kill.
This is possibly the worst tier for Britain. Up-tiers to 8.3-8.7 see you going against modernish tanks that all have thermal, laser rangefinders, stabs. I've never been in so much pain in my life.
Couldn't agree more. I had a bad shot on the front of a panther once, to my surprise that SABOT went through it's front plate and out the back of the tank. I couldn't believe it.
kissHUN Nothing more satisfying than taking a steamy dump on an IS 2, 1.5 km away on Kursk :). However I do prefer the 20 pounders because of the larger diameter and stabilisation while more often than not being placed into 5.7. However the Cent 1 was my favourite to grind with and I got my Tier IV’s with it very fast.
Nordic Beast Yeah just be very careful with aim. Not sure how new you are to British but always aim for “lines” of crew, for example the T-54 has 3/4 of all its crew in one line. Meaning a good shot into the right side of the tank will kill it. However if you struggle always aim ammo or permanent fire.
i disagree with ur opinion on the cent 1’s armor and the effectiveness of a 5.7 lineup........it’s actually quite effective when angled...similar to the tiger 1 and the hull is basically as effective as the panther’s hull.....not to mention 12* of gun depression that,when used gives the turret a good slope the combination of a comet and a cent is a force to reckon with.....as the the comet acts as a mobile medium and the cent as a heavy tank.....now add the avenger as a TD and u got a great line up with very good air support (tempests and mk18 spits are great CAS)
While the charioteer isn't all that good compared to it's other tier 4 counterparts, there is one thing that I think you missed about it. In arcade, it's 5.7, which means you can use it with the centurion mk1 and the black prince if you don't mind uptiering yourself to 6.0. It's hilarious using 285mm pen sabot against 4.7's - not to mention the solid shot will go right through them too. As for the Black Prince, I have one myself and you're right; most of the time it isn't all that effective. However one cool thing about the Black Prince is that the sabot is very cheap which means that you can main sabot and still make tons of money with it. it sits in weird spot at 6.0; if you get downtiered you usually do quite well but in an uptier you get wrecked.
I'm new to War Thunder. Ive watched a few of Oxy's Videos about the game (including the begininers guide) I've heard him say "Target the Breach" alot in these videos. I tried looking it up but all I could find was "Breached Tanks" it there is a different meaning I would love to learn. It would be greatly appreciated
Seeing the Tortoise part of the vid, I remember facing you playing the Maus against my T-54 47, and I was impressed by your armour management. I found the slow and powerful tanks mostly awful because I couldn´t be asked the stock grind while you feel that you miss all the fighting early game
I saw a Maus one time! I'm really just a lowtier player (I love my USA 2.7, and 3.7, as well as German 1.3, 2.7, and 3.7. plus lowtier Russian and such) but anyways I feel like everyone at higher tiers has such great stories of having fought or been on the team of TH-camrs and other special people as well as more crazy stories.
The only times I've successfully used the missiles on the Strv is as a panic secondary weapon at medium range. If my first shot misses their breech or gunner, then I try to use the missiles to disable them. Occasionally it works, usually it's futile.
all that i've watched is: i need to burn my wallet to play with this thech tree. Im a sad 7.7 British boy stucked in this BR because my wallet cant hold the repair costs, and my only hope is get a ratel 20 with some atgm's and hope that MAYBE play with a fat food dispenser will be more rentable than play with my centurions
Your warthunder beginners video was the first I ever watched on warthunder oxy. Must say you are one of my favourite WT content creators. Even though I am playing Germany and you don't have much about them. I am sure you will in future. Perfect velvet friendly uk voice for youtube as well. Keep up the good work and good luck with gaijin, they need guys like you. 10/10
Personally I like to use the tempest mkII as my go to cas vehicle, as I'm terrible at aiming rockets and much prefer the drop and run ability of 2 1000lb bombs. Also I like the speed of the tempest which works well for dealing with enemy air because it's usually just one pass when there are no markers over enemies, so I can sneak up at low altitude and high speed before shredding with stealth belts.
FUN, that's the most important thing.. i've been message by my enemy for using this tank and them being better than me.. well, i just tell them to grow up and just have some.. you take the game way too seriously.. that usually shuts them up..
oxy, i hate to say it, but the charioteer is THE MOST underrated TD from 6.0-6.7, i got it as my second british rank 4, and i was SUPER succesful with it, it really is a great tank, and i think that people lay to much hate on it.
Gotta talk about pricing at this tier, the Britain tanks at this tier are 2x and 3x more than any other nation. If you are an average player you practically lose money every round even with premium. On the Cent mk3 being about 9k to repair and FV2402 and the Caernarvon being 12k to repair. I had to go back to German tanks just to make any kind of money
Seeing most of the 'Get it' tanks that Oxy covers that are not german or russian get uptiered, makes me sad :( now things like T-20 in USA is 6.0 and this 6.7 cent lineup 7.3 :(
They need to add the version of the cent mk1 with the 20mm coax. They excused not adding it before by saying it had no use in game, but since then have added french tanks with 20mm coax and they prove great at taking out guns or AA. Would give the mk1 a use again at it's BR.
HOOOooold up, "the comet struggles at the higher Br's" i don't think so, I've taken that thing into 6.7s and its held its own, if anything i call it the British Hellcat, it can pen almost anything but almost anything can pen you
Sorry but I need to defend the Centurion Mk1 real quick. Yes, it has no real line-up and yes it isn‘t the most well armoured tank or the fastest or the most well armed, but for me it has been far more enjoyable than any other British tank at ranks 3 and 4. I even use it to grind out rank 5 vehicles. If you get a 5.7 match, which does happen more frequently than you‘d expect, you can definitely play quite confidently with it and in most cases it won‘t let you down, even at 6.7. Anyone who reads this: Don‘t avoid this tank! Instead play it and enjoy the fact that you won‘t be killed whilst still trying to move into the battlefield like in the Centurion Mk.3 and that being killed early won‘t mean an overall loss in SL. Get it!
I agree with you, especially that reverse gear is so refreshing compared to a long grind with tanks that can go faster in reverse by pushing them with your bare hands and it is a good learning curve for future versions of the Centurion
HESH on the L7 and British 120mm guns need a buff in my opinion, my reason for this is the HESH on the M50, the italian lunchboxes and the type 60 hit like nukes so why can't the L7 and 120mm.
Caernarvon straight up shits on Tiger IIs no matter the distance and I am sick and tired of having to fight this thing. I feel like every single pros the Tiger 2 has get negated by the british and for me atleast they are absolutely unkillable. I have never won a 1v1 fight vs a Caernarvon no matter the range. Fking Stabilizer and APDS negating my armor and angling while I have to search for pixels to pen them.
I find the Cent Mk 1 fun. I've been playing it the first couple of days after researching it and it was rough to play at first it's quite enjoyable clappin some german boys.
The Crusader AA Mk1 actually has a 14.3mm behind the outer 14mm, however for some reason it is structural steel, which doesn't show if you have unticked "Show external armor". You can see this plate if you have a custom hangar that lets you move the camera below the tank.
Great content and work mate . I really love how detail explain different aspects and the small talks about fun and detox are so true which make your work to shy even more and your calm voice help me with detoxing between games for sure . Cheers and stay safe mate .
The fv4202 to me holds a special place in my heart. My first br 7 and got a talisman on it. I mastered the hull down sniping positions and got a 3.2k/d with it WHILE 90% of the vehicles i own, i have a .8k/d. ( just to say im a bad player ). But this guy, for some reason was put in the game for me and i still take it out weekly even in my 8.7 lineup
I ground out 2/3 of the British tree with the Strv 81. British 6.7 lineup is my happy place. The ATGM's are a bit difficult to use. Very situational. I use them to knock out stationary targets at long range. Make sure that what you're aiming at doesn't see you. Great machine. The problem with talisman is that it doesn't give SL boost of premium vehicles so putting it onto a vehicle doesn't make it same as a premium.
Id say the cent 1 is actually one of the best tanks at the tier. It doesn't fight ATGM's, it can hull pen Panthers and Tiger 1's and will kill the gunner and driver if you aim to their left your right. Its armour, while not too reliable, easily bounces medium 88's and sometimes extra long 75's. I used it to grind the FV 4202, Cent mk 3, tortoise, charioteer, Crusader AA Mk 1 and the Caernarvon. Its fun to finaly be able to point and click at tanks like German tanks are able to do past 5.3. I can usually get like 3 kills before dying to a turret cheek shot or a Long 88.
The 183mm HESH can hull break vehicles with an indirect hit, i've killed BMPs, USHs, and some of those italian cars with near misses. Heck, one time i bounced a shell off the floor plate of a FIAT only to hull break it from the explosion when it hit a rock nearby. just a ludicrous boomstick. Probably my happiest war thunder moment was getting first strike with the FV4005 on a moving T-34 100mm across the map on the big version of eastern europe. eyeballed it and fired away to be rewarded with a miracle hit
The charioteer is just a solid flanker and a cheap tank that you can sacrifice to push the enemy back with. Like, the fully spaded charioteer only cost 2300 SL while other British vehicles that have 20 pounder would cost 4x - 5x more. It's a vehicle that you cannot skip if you are planning to grind the British tech tree without spending real money on it. The brits don't really have a high survivability vehicle anyway. Every single one of them have the same problem. Big target, slow-moving, free food for german's planes, and died in one shot by everything that have explosive mass. May as well trade all of the armor for some top speed.
RIP to the T30 that Oxy blew up by ammo racking the Panther at 26:36
He died a heroic death
How tf does that even work
I've done that to a panzer 4 by ammo racking a r3
@@danb4900 ammo rack explosion can kill you if you stand too close
He even thanked him XDDD
take a look, immediately after blowing up the T30 , he thanks him XDD
I think the term you are looking for to describe the FV4005 is a Meme Machine
Meme Machine = Messy Matchmaking = Massive Moaning = $Mega-Money$
@@blazeiscrazy8737 Money Solves EVERYTHING.
Nah it already has a name, the Death Star II
@@pjmetzen3483 lol XD
Pman *Stage II*
Pro tip, the FV4005 machine gun is a ballistic match for the 183mm, making aiming a doddle even at very long ranges. Fire a few spotting rounds, when they hit just fire the main gun.
nice one going to give that a go mate :)
thats the point of it...
@@leeboy29680-ol7gf well yeah, but it's not common knowledge so i like to share it 👍
@@leeboy29680-ol7gf really? Didnt know that reading any of this thanks for clearing that up
It’s only reliable out to around 500m in my experience
Im not quite sure why, but you just seem like such a genuine guy and all around top bloke.
Yeah, maybe something about him being willing to spread all his knowledge I guess. And the amount of work he puts in. Seems like a really great guy
Tea-Timestamps:
0:30 - Centurion Mk 1
3:39 - Centurion Mk 3
8:08 - FV4202
10:01 - Caernarvon
11:19 - Charioteer Mk VII
13:58 - Tortoise
17:16 - FV4005
21:26 - Crusader AA Mk 1
23:47 - Black Prince
25:04 - Strv 81 (Rb.52)
26:46 - CAS Recommendations
27:26 - Lineups
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@@an_f-14_tomcat DO NOT QUESTION THE ALMIGHTY TEASTAMPER.
it would seem that the centurion mk1 segment is a bit outdated since there is volumetric now and the turret is extremely strong i had two panthers continuously shooting my turret face for about 2 minutes before one shot my lfp.
3:00 i felt that “avoid it” like a punch in my stomach... my poor lovely centurion mk1....
2 plane stabilizer at 6.7 when others get it at 8.0+ is nasty.
or at 5.3 aint that right.
looking at you pt 76
@@eukalyptusbonbon2983 the pt76 is too slow, the stab makes it barely useable.
@@nikolabegonja5490 highly disagree... i played many RB battles with my spaded pt-76 and the stab is disgustingly powerful againts tigers and wobling panthers
imo the stabilizer is helpful, but not crucial. T-54 entire 1.0 BR higher doesn't have stab and is much better than centurion mk 3 or even mk 10.
@@0kisshun0 it is, once you get the heat, but it's lack of mobility as a light tank is a huge drawback
British tanks are in a grey spot, they did and they are doing great in the real world but in a game...very map dependent. Being slow increases awareness quite a lot.
Every line up must have a Wellington ;P
the bloody Wellington is a rank 2 tho... you can have Lancasters at rank 4. Bigger/more bombs = more fun, so take a Lanc
@@soundsox3881 Nah wellington=best ground rb bomber
The Halifax is best bomber you can take into battle.
Love seeing these videos! I just spent two days spading the damn Firecrest, so I'm not a huge fan of Britain at the moment, but I'm looking forward to 6.7 one day.
Heh. Firecrest is much more fun now that it's at 3.3. It being at 4.0 sucked because its big advantage (in my opinion), the speed, wasn't great there, and it would get chased down and ripped to shreds by 190s and 109fs. Now, it can blow a pz 4 f2 to kingdom come then bugger out or bully a stuka or something. Much more enjoyable.
@@an_f-14_tomcat good thing it's at 2.3 now lol
@@pav6759 lmao
After the new Britain Nerfs if you're wondering what's changed, basically when he talks about the 20-pounder and says something along the lines of 'you'll have no trouble penetrating most tanks, so you don't always need to use APDS' replace that thinking with 'now, you always have to use APDS as facing tanks which frontally can be easily penetrated with the AP round will be a relatively rare occurrence'. TL:DR- when using any British tank with the 20 pounder with AP/APDS as a consequence of the nerf you no longer have the luxury of being able to main the AP round with a few APDS for heavier targets. APDS is now a must.
oh yeah and the 'great hull down protection' enjoyed by the FV4202 and centurions is no longer common. Get used to Whack-a-moleing.
Can't wait for the horror that is the higher tiers, in the middle of grinding the Challenger 2 and I can wholeheartedly say the crawl through 10.0 matches with the stock chieftain mk10 is one of the worst experiences you can have in War Thunder... aside from early british naval of course.
I really wanna play British naval but the early vehicles are unbearable to play
i grinded chief mk10, chally mk2 and im almost at chally mk.3 by just playing assault arcade. i played like 1 pvp with chief mk3 and 2 with the warrior. thats it. i really enjoy 7.0 line up so i only play that.
Early British naval is like clipping your teeth and pressing them into ice cream
@@ronaldmacdonald8667 I did not need to be reminded of that image.
And yeah gaijin didn't even try to balance it at all, Fairmile D (3.7) and German K2 also (3.7) just look at those two and wonder where it all went wrong
*2 Quadruple Lewis guns noises*
I'd like to add that the 6.7 lineup is quite expensive to repair.
Also the armor is rendered useless by heat-fs in uptiers or when facing Ru-251.
So for grinding SL, I would recommend the 4.7/5.0 lineup or playing Air.
Yes even the tortoise can be frontally penetrated by the ru-251 at any distance.
RU-FuckEveryOne
4.7 lineup is awesome for money making. I really enjoy the 6.7 and don’t have any issues in 7.7. The 20pdr is a great gun.
Hm, never thought of that. I run my 6.7 lineup with the Strv and Wyvern (Even 1.7BR higher it still kicks ass) so coming out positive is never an issue, but if someone doesn't have them then that would definitely be an issue.
Kottery I typically come out positive myself. I run the Wyvern also (it is awesome in GF) but don’t always use it. I seem to make money with the Tortoise because it takes so many hits
1 huge drawback for vast amount of Brits IV tiers is: economics. They're too expensive when you have no premium account. Lost game with 3 kills and 1 death? Negative SL balance.
Bit late but if anyone is interested, the centurion 1 and charioteer are actually both at 5.7 in Arcade. So if you play/don’t mind arcade and want to grind them, they actually form quite a decent lineup in Arcade battles (with either comet or challenger as a backup). I’d say the cent 1 performs extremely well at 5.7 and the extra mobility in arcade makes it really fun and it isn’t worth missing out on
Sad to watch this video now when nearly all of the 6.7 vehicles have been moved up multiple multiple BRs or nerfed.
My god you know the brits are shafted if having a reverse gear LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER TREE HAS is an afvantage
I agree with all except the Centurion Mk1. I feel it's an amazing tank, personally that is. I was able to research ALL it's upgrades in a single afternoon after getting the tank! It's armor isn't perfect, but it's good enough that I bounce a lot of shots. That cannon amazingly goes through the front of Panthers with the SABOT. It's mobility is the only thing I feel it lacks and it helps me from not over extending myself. But at 5.7 it is pretty hard to get a reliable line up for it if your maining it.
I play this when it got bumped to 6.0. And dear lord, is this thing effective sometimes. You can generally have at least one or two kills, but sometimes I’ve gone on anywhere from 5-9 kill rampages, pulling off 3 against 1s and flanking anything. Punching through panthers, tigers, and jumbos with no problem, and just hiding away with the wonderful reverse speed. I also think it’s a wonderful tank when used properly, because damn is it fun to just unexist anything.
A shame that the zoom is so unbelievably shit that it might as well not be there. i'm damn near blind in the thing.
The issue with this tank is the engine noise that is just painful for the player.
Probably should mention that 6.7 will be constant uptiers that render pretty much all of your advantages, minus the stabiliser, almost totally null.
The 4202 is fine in uptiers
I used the charioteer in a 6.7 lineup together with my FV4202 before I had the other 6.7s
I play the Charioteer like a British Hellcat and flank around the edges of the map to shoot tanks in the side. I use it in my 6.7 lineup and if it’s a big map I’ll use it as my first spawn or you can take it out later in the battle and it works great to mop up spread out vehicles or cap points. Don’t stop to shoot if the enemy is looking at you and when you do stop pivot sideways or pull a 180 so you can get away quickly after firing. If your not sure you can get away before the enemies react pop smoke right before you fire the wide smoke screen is great for covering your escape.
The Charioteer had a 105 gun whit a stabilizer
I think it was the Charioteer Mk.9 or 10.
The tank would look suck whit it.
Sadly gaijin doesn't want to add another "Hellcat" like tank.
Especially gaijin hating UK.
Fun fact about FV4005
The limited turret traverse is intentional.
When fired at a 50° (gun away from side) it would literally flip the tank itself due to massive breach kickback.
No one told Gaijin that because the Chinese are getting a hellcat.
@@25xxfrostxx Nobody asked for Chinese.
And once again
Gaijin hates the UK
Especially not giving the UK they 10.0 helicopter
That is the British Apache.
Damn it, I wanted to study. Guess I'll have to do that in 30 minutes.
I got the Prince along with the other three Brits when the line was introduced. As you said, to begin with it was just damn unkillable while being able to take down anything. I still love the thing to death, still play it regularly.
However, to my point; what you forgot to mention in the 'Pro' list, the Prince is without doubt the best looking tank in the game, and being so slow you get lottsa time to just eyeball it while you're heading into battle.
Personally, apperently this is an unpopular opinion, but I think the M4A3 (76) looks absolutely sublime. Some stars on the hull sides and turret and mmmm that's a good looking tank
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I did not expect to hear SPEEN in a War Thunder video. Peak Shroomer.
*SPEEN*
I'd say the tortoise is a tank that everyone can love. Its got a great cannon, good speed and great armour
10:50 is the sweet spot shot, you disable his ability to point his gun at you and disable his mobility at the same time, effectively making it an easy 2shot kill.
This is possibly the worst tier for Britain. Up-tiers to 8.3-8.7 see you going against modernish tanks that all have thermal, laser rangefinders, stabs. I've never been in so much pain in my life.
God damn, now the cent 3 and caenarvon sit a whole BR above, at 7.7.
Personally I go with Cent 1,Comet and the Crusader AA. Cent 1 is amazing with sabot and I rarely die using it. Do not skip this tank!
yepp... cent 1 with apds is lolpenning the kv-1 and tiger panther tanks all day in all ranges....
Couldn't agree more. I had a bad shot on the front of a panther once, to my surprise that SABOT went through it's front plate and out the back of the tank. I couldn't believe it.
kissHUN Nothing more satisfying than taking a steamy dump on an IS 2, 1.5 km away on Kursk :). However I do prefer the 20 pounders because of the larger diameter and stabilisation while more often than not being placed into 5.7. However the Cent 1 was my favourite to grind with and I got my Tier IV’s with it very fast.
Nordic Beast Yeah just be very careful with aim. Not sure how new you are to British but always aim for “lines” of crew, for example the T-54 has 3/4 of all its crew in one line. Meaning a good shot into the right side of the tank will kill it. However if you struggle always aim ammo or permanent fire.
i disagree with ur opinion on the cent 1’s armor and the effectiveness of a 5.7 lineup........it’s actually quite effective when angled...similar to the tiger 1 and the hull is basically as effective as the panther’s hull.....not to mention 12* of gun depression that,when used gives the turret a good slope
the combination of a comet and a cent is a force to reckon with.....as the the comet acts as a mobile medium and the cent as a heavy tank.....now add the avenger as a TD and u got a great line up with very good air support (tempests and mk18 spits are great CAS)
it also does realy well in uptiers compared to 6,7 in 7,7
Tier 5 is gonna be fun to see
5th tier is good but the chieftains after that.
REPAIR COSTS got me depressed
18:44 oxy you watch Binyot??
While the charioteer isn't all that good compared to it's other tier 4 counterparts, there is one thing that I think you missed about it. In arcade, it's 5.7, which means you can use it with the centurion mk1 and the black prince if you don't mind uptiering yourself to 6.0. It's hilarious using 285mm pen sabot against 4.7's - not to mention the solid shot will go right through them too. As for the Black Prince, I have one myself and you're right; most of the time it isn't all that effective. However one cool thing about the Black Prince is that the sabot is very cheap which means that you can main sabot and still make tons of money with it. it sits in weird spot at 6.0; if you get downtiered you usually do quite well but in an uptier you get wrecked.
18:45 “Speen!” Good old Vinny
Tfw all 6.7 tanks here are now 7.3
Yeah, this video is very outdated now and there really arent any good British lineups from 4.7 to 7.3 which really sucks.
I'm new to War Thunder. Ive watched a few of Oxy's Videos about the game (including the begininers guide) I've heard him say "Target the Breach" alot in these videos. I tried looking it up but all I could find was "Breached Tanks" it there is a different meaning I would love to learn. It would be greatly appreciated
He's talking about targeting the main cannon breech. Have fun in WT lemme know if u need any other help I'm very bored
Seeing the Tortoise part of the vid, I remember facing you playing the Maus against my T-54 47, and I was impressed by your armour management. I found the slow and powerful tanks mostly awful because I couldn´t be asked the stock grind while you feel that you miss all the fighting early game
I saw a Maus one time!
I'm really just a lowtier player (I love my USA 2.7, and 3.7, as well as German 1.3, 2.7, and 3.7. plus lowtier Russian and such) but anyways I feel like everyone at higher tiers has such great stories of having fought or been on the team of TH-camrs and other special people as well as more crazy stories.
Repair Cost: Allow me to introduce myself
can we get an f for british line up at 7.3
Great Britain is the least fun nation to play. Very boring tanks, annoying solid shot, slow speeds, etc.
The only times I've successfully used the missiles on the Strv is as a panic secondary weapon at medium range. If my first shot misses their breech or gunner, then I try to use the missiles to disable them. Occasionally it works, usually it's futile.
all that i've watched is: i need to burn my wallet to play with this thech tree. Im a sad 7.7 British boy stucked in this BR because my wallet cant hold the repair costs, and my only hope is get a ratel 20 with some atgm's and hope that MAYBE play with a fat food dispenser will be more rentable than play with my centurions
kinda disapointing that sweeden has the same centurion for almost half of the price. Anyway... thanks gaijin! again...
This video is almost irrelevant now due to Gaijin bringing British BRs up farther than redditor's brought up Game Stop's stock prices.
Your warthunder beginners video was the first I ever watched on warthunder oxy. Must say you are one of my favourite WT content creators. Even though I am playing Germany and you don't have much about them. I am sure you will in future. Perfect velvet friendly uk voice for youtube as well. Keep up the good work and good luck with gaijin, they need guys like you. 10/10
The charioteer is my favourite tank in the game the gun is truly amazing
does anyone know what red camo he was using on a few of those tanks?
Think it's a thunder league camo
I died at the Vinesauce sPiN !
Personally I like to use the tempest mkII as my go to cas vehicle, as I'm terrible at aiming rockets and much prefer the drop and run ability of 2 1000lb bombs. Also I like the speed of the tempest which works well for dealing with enemy air because it's usually just one pass when there are no markers over enemies, so I can sneak up at low altitude and high speed before shredding with stealth belts.
👍. These are the best reviews on vehicles. I know it takes a lot of time to do these. Would u be able to do updates of these please?
FUN, that's the most important thing.. i've been message by my enemy for using this tank and them being better than me.. well, i just tell them to grow up and just have some.. you take the game way too seriously.. that usually shuts them up..
oxy, i hate to say it, but the charioteer is THE MOST underrated TD from 6.0-6.7, i got it as my second british rank 4, and i was SUPER succesful with it, it really is a great tank, and i think that people lay to much hate on it.
Gotta talk about pricing at this tier, the Britain tanks at this tier are 2x and 3x more than any other nation. If you are an average player you practically lose money every round even with premium. On the Cent mk3 being about 9k to repair and FV2402 and the Caernarvon being 12k to repair. I had to go back to German tanks just to make any kind of money
Seeing most of the 'Get it' tanks that Oxy covers that are not german or russian get uptiered, makes me sad :( now things like T-20 in USA is 6.0 and this 6.7 cent lineup 7.3 :(
They need to add the version of the cent mk1 with the 20mm coax. They excused not adding it before by saying it had no use in game, but since then have added french tanks with 20mm coax and they prove great at taking out guns or AA. Would give the mk1 a use again at it's BR.
HOOOooold up, "the comet struggles at the higher Br's" i don't think so, I've taken that thing into 6.7s and its held its own, if anything i call it the British Hellcat, it can pen almost anything but almost anything can pen you
Daniel Limach Well it being a glass cannon is not a bad thing.The same thing can be said for the panzer4 f2.Taking it up a tier is not a problem
Anything with reasonable speed with a high velocity 75mm or equivalent gun seems to be useable in higher tier
Gaijin has 'given the centurion mk1 a lineup' by raising its BR further to 6.0.
In case anyone was wondering, it does not compete at 6.0
i love spectrum u use to play, do u have eye problem? or thats just to help u spot targets faster?
Spitfire as cas why
I'm the Chad that uses a lancaster
Amueter. Swordfish best ground pounder. Hand deliver artisanal home made bombs directly under a King Tiger and just watch the fireworks.
Oxy moderating the wiki? Can't think of a better person for this, good luck and thanks!
Sorry but I need to defend the Centurion Mk1 real quick. Yes, it has no real line-up and yes it isn‘t the most well armoured tank or the fastest or the most well armed, but for me it has been far more enjoyable than any other British tank at ranks 3 and 4. I even use it to grind out rank 5 vehicles. If you get a 5.7 match, which does happen more frequently than you‘d expect, you can definitely play quite confidently with it and in most cases it won‘t let you down, even at 6.7. Anyone who reads this: Don‘t avoid this tank! Instead play it and enjoy the fact that you won‘t be killed whilst still trying to move into the battlefield like in the Centurion Mk.3 and that being killed early won‘t mean an overall loss in SL. Get it!
I agree with you, especially that reverse gear is so refreshing compared to a long grind with tanks that can go faster in reverse by pushing them with your bare hands and it is a good learning curve for future versions of the Centurion
You know I was most excited about this :D
RIP little Centurion Mk. I, I will avenge you
the reason i watch these videos is only to quickly understand how to penetrae' bri'ish amo'
25:50 - Absolutely piss-boiling.
I nut when I see that there is more stock in the shop tbh. Just bought Rolls Royce engine advert.
I literally use the STRV81 and my FV4005 with my chieftain mk 3
And the stvr actually kinda fits there
hi oxy, would you like to revisit this? there have been a lot of br changes and south africa tree was added after so i thought you might like to
"It's the only vehicle at 5.7" -on the Cent Mk. 1
Current War Thunder Players: Hahahhaa... haha... ha... yeah....
Oxy thoughts on the br changes?
Britain has one of the best tier 5 line -ups though every game is so easy with the centurion mk 10, i just hate what they did to HESH rounds
HESH on the L7 and British 120mm guns need a buff in my opinion, my reason for this is the HESH on the M50, the italian lunchboxes and the type 60 hit like nukes so why can't the L7 and 120mm.
Caernarvon straight up shits on Tiger IIs no matter the distance and I am sick and tired of having to fight this thing. I feel like every single pros the Tiger 2 has get negated by the british and for me atleast they are absolutely unkillable. I have never won a 1v1 fight vs a Caernarvon no matter the range. Fking Stabilizer and APDS negating my armor and angling while I have to search for pixels to pen them.
The technology difference is too real, they should've put a boundary between WWII and 7.3+ modern tanks
The cent 1 is also great at depression fire due to its rather troly turret
Also not many 5,7 have more than 200 pen
Britain, more like Britain
Goteem
still can't believe you recommended fv4005 over cent mk 1
how is the tortoise the fastest birtish tank in reverse?
I find the Cent Mk 1 fun. I've been playing it the first couple of days after researching it and it was rough to play at first it's quite enjoyable clappin some german boys.
Great video again!
the fv4202 can be very effective brawler thanks to the stabilizer. at 6.7 and 5.7 make sure you use the stock ap round and you will usually one shot
Came here for a break from watching old Binny streams, I'm stuck in a loop
The Crusader AA Mk1 actually has a 14.3mm behind the outer 14mm, however for some reason it is structural steel, which doesn't show if you have unticked "Show external armor". You can see this plate if you have a custom hangar that lets you move the camera below the tank.
I see that someone is a Vinesauce fan
Yes the Cent Mk3 does around my playstyle very well
My playstyle being dying everytime i spawn into a god damn game by a moving bush
My best game was in a strv81 (cent 3) 13 tank kills and 4 planes killed
*angry non-sweden player noise*
Honestly I think Sweden's aircraft are absurd, but the tanks aren't that OP and people should chill a bit
PLEASE do japanese 😍😍😍
the black prince should be a 5.7 it has no business being higher than the Tiger E and Panther A
Captain Dreadnought Its armour is far better than the tiger 1’s and its gun has better pen
Great content and work mate . I really love how detail explain different aspects and the small talks about fun and detox are so true which make your work to shy even more and your calm voice help me with detoxing between games for sure . Cheers and stay safe mate .
Too bad it costs an arm and a leg to play the Centurions now
China next, this way it will help you get more views since china is right around the corner!
Plus you can review USA and USSR at the same time!
I am not sure why I watch War Thunder content, I am not even playing that game anymore since ages haha
It's fun to imagine playing but in practice very frustrating
Lol and now they've uptiered the Cent to 6.0...m
Oxy: did you Learn Fast playing in RB matches or did it take getting used to knowing almost every Tank takes getting used to???
I come to learn of mein enemy.
Well, this aged badly.
the turret is a weakspot
BECAUSE GAIJIN NERFED THEM from 152mm
rip centurion mk1
The fv4202 to me holds a special place in my heart. My first br 7 and got a talisman on it.
I mastered the hull down sniping positions and got a 3.2k/d with it WHILE 90% of the vehicles i own, i have a .8k/d.
( just to say im a bad player ).
But this guy, for some reason was put in the game for me and i still take it out weekly even in my 8.7 lineup
I ground out 2/3 of the British tree with the Strv 81. British 6.7 lineup is my happy place.
The ATGM's are a bit difficult to use. Very situational. I use them to knock out stationary targets at long range. Make sure that what you're aiming at doesn't see you. Great machine.
The problem with talisman is that it doesn't give SL boost of premium vehicles so putting it onto a vehicle doesn't make it same as a premium.
Id say the cent 1 is actually one of the best tanks at the tier. It doesn't fight ATGM's, it can hull pen Panthers and Tiger 1's and will kill the gunner and driver if you aim to their left your right. Its armour, while not too reliable, easily bounces medium 88's and sometimes extra long 75's. I used it to grind the FV 4202, Cent mk 3, tortoise, charioteer, Crusader AA Mk 1 and the Caernarvon. Its fun to finaly be able to point and click at tanks like German tanks are able to do past 5.3. I can usually get like 3 kills before dying to a turret cheek shot or a Long 88.
The 183mm HESH can hull break vehicles with an indirect hit, i've killed BMPs, USHs, and some of those italian cars with near misses. Heck, one time i bounced a shell off the floor plate of a FIAT only to hull break it from the explosion when it hit a rock nearby. just a ludicrous boomstick.
Probably my happiest war thunder moment was getting first strike with the FV4005 on a moving T-34 100mm across the map on the big version of eastern europe. eyeballed it and fired away to be rewarded with a miracle hit
The charioteer is just a solid flanker and a cheap tank that you can sacrifice to push the enemy back with. Like, the fully spaded charioteer only cost 2300 SL while other British vehicles that have 20 pounder would cost 4x - 5x more. It's a vehicle that you cannot skip if you are planning to grind the British tech tree without spending real money on it. The brits don't really have a high survivability vehicle anyway. Every single one of them have the same problem. Big target, slow-moving, free food for german's planes, and died in one shot by everything that have explosive mass. May as well trade all of the armor for some top speed.