Why Russia Took Their Ball And Went Home
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Crazy news! I'd be stunned if any Russian took the risk of competing. Also I messed up on Zhamalov. He is Russian but represents UZB, he's always been in. Russia was out completely at 74kg after the initial wave of cuts. My bad!
Not fair to all the other athletes devaluing their medals manipulating the whole competition for idiotic politics
What's not fair is banning Russia for doing what the usa and isreal have been doing and are still doing, if Russia should be banned then the us and isreal should have been banned decades ago
I think that the Russians should invite the Olympic gold medallists to a duel meet😊
Awesome
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Your take is just cope. This is an asterisk games now.
Indeed.
exactly my thoughts slandering athletes like that and have the courage to show his face
Asterisk games...I like that
Not welcome news. It's a diminished competition.
These American Communists are politics first, naturally.
This is a repeat of the 84' Olympics. While I do think the Schultz brothers and Randy Lewis had a great shot at gold if Russia had been there, there was always an asterisk next to any gold medalist in wrestling at those games.
No different here.
Simply put, we aren't going to see the best against the best.
Nope. Randy Lewis didn't get to compete in the 1980 Olympics because USA didn't go. He won in 1984 because he did go. No asterisks for him, or for anybody that won in 1984. This is how competition works. If you show up, you compete. Don't show up? You don't get to compete.
@@brendan638 You don't seem to understand what is being discussed here.
The Russians are the dominant wrestling power internationally.
If they aren't there, then it won't be the best vs the best.
Whoever wins gold won't have competed against the best in their weight class, and therefore will most certainly have an asterisk next to their gold as we will never know if they could have beaten the Russians.
I watched the 84' Olympics, and everyone knew that without the Russians, it wasn't the same.
There were a number of Americans in 84 who never would have won gold if they had faced a Russian opponent. It's as simple as that, whether you like it or not.
@@cdcaleo Because USA didn't go in 1980, does that mean any athlete who won in 1980 should have an asterisk next to their name? Not just for wrestling- for any sport.
Here's what's simple: If you don't compete, you don't get a chance to win. So if you want to compete, you gotta play by the rules to be eligible to compete. Russia doesn't want to go? Fine, but that was their choice. not USA's.
The usa is not the best of the best. Russia is the best of the best.
@@Ohio98 Russia is obviously the best, which is what I said, and them not attending means it won't be a real Olympic games as far as wrestling is concerned.
How many different ways do I have to say it for the one dimensional thinkers in this comments section?
The ioc sucks and politics should be left out of sports.
Joke NATO olympics…olympics and politics should be separated what a joke !!!
Have you ever learned history? Since when has international sports not been connected to politics? Everything that concerns people is politics.
@@SwordTunetrue, NATO still sucks and is a relic of the Cold War. It’s just perpetuates endless war
I feel bad for Sadulaev.
and sidakov. They could've passed satiev
How is it at all fair that Russia is banned but Israel can compete and keep their flag despite committing genocide?
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Andy Barth has a lot of influence and money and a lot of shadow supporters.
Yeah, crazy. Same with US illegal war in Iraq. No ban. Double standards.
The US we're invading halfway around the world in Iraq, Afghanistan, inciting coups in Libya and Syria (and Ukraine), no problem. But Russia bad for a regional conflict so, yeah.
Although completely disingenuous, I'm pretty sure the IOC ban is technically due to Russia destroying Ukraine's Olympic infrastructure, not invading Ukraine. Thus, the IOC argues that since Israel has not done the same in Gaza (do the Palestinians even have an Olympic presence?), the two situations aren't analogous.
Personally, it seems like the Olympic ban allows Russia to claim martyrdom of a sort, and makes it even easier for Putin to isolate the Russian people from the rest of the world, and reality.
You said they weren’t allowed to send their best but the title says “Russia took their ball and went home”? Uhhh no. All gold medals in freestyle this year come with an asterisk
No they don't. You have to show up to win. They don't show up, not USA's fault. No asterisks here.
"Russia, who uses sport for propaganda..."
My dude, the propaganda is the IOC punishing Russia for intervening in a genocide in the Donbas but not punishing the US for wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and everywhere else.
move there.
@@richardmayo1973 boomer response
@@richardmayo1973 Here in the U.S., we're allowed to criticize institutions and political maneuvering. In point of fact, you should move there.
@@richardmayo1973 why?
Kind of crazy how russia had half of the defending olympic champions
It's not crazy, they are the best
You know what? Good for them. The Olympics aren’t good enough to have em anyways. Let the Olympics make as much money as they want appealing to their Ukrainian audience. The Russians can compete in their own terms and regulations in the Friendship Games. Best of Luck Sidakov, Sadulaev, Uguev, and Mamedov🇺🇸🤝🇷🇺
I mean if the best of the best are not competing can you really even call it the Olympics
This guy just shit on Russia for no reason. There’s no question about it that Russia brings out some of the best wrestlers in the world. And if you combine all the podium positions for all time, they have the most medals. They aren’t allowed to compete because of politics regarding the current conflict with Ukraine. If Russia can’t send its best wrestlers to compete in the Olympics then they don’t want any part of it. It’s not fair, simple as that. F that. If the best in the world are going to compete then Russia should be able to send their best.
If he had a thought of his own, it would be his first.
Olympic wrestling not even worth watching
Olympics are not supposed to be political. They had the Olympics in 1936 in Nazi Germany!
As much as I wish the Russians were allowed to compete, calling the Russian invasion of Ukraine a "conflict" is disingenuous at best.
@@theoldhenk7531 call it whatever u want bud.
“You can’t win the Olympics if Russia is not there”. Yeah, lol that’s like saying, “you can’t beat me if I quit.” Sucks for the Russian wrestlers though who probably don’t give a crap about politics and just want to wrestle.
Exactly. It is unfortunate for the Russian wrestlers but you have to show up to win. USA didn't show up to the Olympics in 1980, and because we didn't show up, we didn't compete and we couldn't win. If Dake or Zain or whoever win gold, they shouldn't have some idiot say "it doesn't count because Russia wasn't there!" Russia didn't show up, so they lose. End of story.
They already banned multiple gold medalist from Russia from competing because of politics so I would say that it’s pretty fair to say us allowing them to send their B squad is a joke so that the USA can save face😂..
The Russians should create their own Olympics
they are literally trying. They are calling it "friendship games" look it up lol
The Russians aren't special. If they want to join an international community they need to be willing to work with that community.
It would be bigger, stronger, and faster than the regular Olympics. Might have a few side affects, and a shorter life span than your normal Olympics.
@@farrierss1724 like the case of the US track team in the Seoul Olympics they were all on drugs after the trials but they were allowed to compete because they were afraid of the soviets. True what you say about life span u just have to look at Florence Griffith Joyner and at what age she died …
@@dinocollins720 the Iranians should also boycott these fake NATO Olympics
Another fantastic video! Thank you!
You have something on your chin.
Good peace out cheaters
It's cute that you think Russia is the only country that uses PED's. Wake up and smell the coffee.
I wish Iran would boycott the joke NATO Olympics too
1:35 Zhamalov wrestles for Uzbekistan?
Shoot you're right. I got confused on 74 for Russia. They didn't have anyone get in after the initial wave of cuts.
Consider all the other nations super lucky that Russia quit. They have some of the greatest wrestlers of all time.
no way... what could possibly being hold russia back.. oh wait..
I truly believe that russian being out of the olympic games is gonna effect all the next medalist legacy , for example even if kyle dake gets the olympic gold lot of people will always say he only got that because the russians weren’t there , and i even doubt he may say it to himself .
it's a double-edged sword... you can only compete against who shows up. so it's hard to fault somebody for that. but at the same time yeah you wanna compete against the best. i'm sure they're not thinking about what others' think of their legacy but it will almost certainly make a difference in the future
I understand them. They banned their 3 best wrestlers so why go at all? Double standards. Isreal are able to participate. Same with US during their illegal war in Iraq. Disgusting!
Totally disgusting NATO Olympics not even worth watching
@@frankrevuelto-lanao2246 Yeah, the double standards in the west is nasty. And worst is that the population is turning a blind eye to the hypocrisy. Straight up swallowing the propaganda.
Do you know what the joke is? Russian wrestlers competing for other countries will win the medal count in freestyle wrestling. 3-4 numbers will win over everyone else
Olympics should not be political period
Define political.
I believe this is an internal political move. Almost all of the great Russian wrestlers these days are from their muslim enclaves. Right now, there is major underlying hostility with Moscow and these regions, this situation, in my opinion is much bigger than Olympic wrestling.
Bad take
@@boldottoman We’ll see. Keep watching the news.
The largest hostilities are from CIA agitation inserted into the muslim regions, its why when the US/NATO troops were being kicked out of north africa as the states were looking to have Russian troops protect them instead, all of a sudden ISIS appears and attacks, and then blockades the Wagner PMCs. The US spent nearly a decade paying muslim terrorists and arming them against Assad in Syria, as well as the uprisings in Libya, as American's we need to realize our government is the #1 exporter of terrorism around the world.
Just making $hit up.
@@vestalinc.426 Yeah, those murders in Dagestan were made up. Will you be vacationing there? The Moscow area theater massacre by ISIS was also made up? How much did it cost to hire those actors? What about the airport assault on those Jewish passengers? Hey, you could be a ISIS supporter, or Roger Waters, who knows?
If Russia is not there those Wrestling Medals might as well be made of chocolate and a gold wrapper.
Do not celebrate your win if the top guys didn’t show up.
Such a poor take.
@@brendan638 apply this logic to UFC. Imagine if the UFC champion was not allowed to defend their belt because of political reasons beyond their control. Then the second place guy calls himself the champ. That is not legit.
If Russia, who has dominated the sport since the Soviet Union era is not there to compete and defend their medals. The medals are worthless.
@@cascaderetriever7618 Russia has been cheating for decades with their whole systemic doping of athletes. Although the official reason is political, I see it as karma for their decades of systemic cheating.
Russia doesn't want to play by the rules, so they don't get to compete. USA didn't compete in the Olympics in 1980 because of protests, so it's not like this is the only time this happened. You have to show up to compete and if some UFC champion could not defend the belt because of controversy, then that sucks but that's how it goes.
@@brendan638 that’s true. Good points.
Banning Russia athletes is a bitch move. Makes the whole thing suspect
I think the Russian Athletes should file lawsuits against the IOC. On what grounds? I don't have a clue. But as the "KGB" used to say, "Give me the man, and I'll find you the crime."
You could see this coming when the certain Russians were not allowed to compete and the fact Russia created the friendship games for September
friendship games haha that's the most un-Russian thing i've ever heard lol
@@dinocollins720why? Russia always prefered to have good relationship with countries and solve problems diplomatically. You can see how Russia has good relationship with both India and China. However as you know, If the other party doesn't accept it, diplomacy doesn't work.
At the top of the video you mentioned that some of the Russians weren't going to be allowed to compete. But I didn't noticed that you said why.
They banned the 3 best Russian wrestlers because some twitter post that supported Russia or the Russian army. So they got banned. After they banned those 3 Russia simply said if we all can't go nobody will go.
Very disappointed. The IOC is ruining international wrestling with vindictive political rulings. The Olympics will be tough, but this will diminish the level of competition and does not bode well for the sport.
Everyone knows sidakov is better than Dake, its not even close
Wrestling, Which Is american empire's sport for excellence, Is now criticized by average american like "distinguish sport and politic"🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡...i love these comments
No I’m dirty Dan
Wrestling loses when Russia isn't there. Same with US and Iran. Most years most weight classes, we could live without others...not always. But Russia being out is a loss for the sport. Honestly, the Olympic servants who think they are rulers need to back the f*** off and bring countries together. Political statements with the Olympics is horseshit for reasons way beyond sports. The political heat itself is a reason FOR inclusion. Sadulaev's statements that are pro-Russian in nature make sense when coming from...wait for it...a Russian. He and the Russians needed to be there.
In other words, “2024 Olympic champion!”…*
*[Russia did not compete]*
Does this change the field of 57kg very much?
Ugaev is the defending Olympic Champion!
@@billpryor8764 will Nachyn Mongush go instead?
Pyles is so weak 👎Won’t admit the NBC IOC banning the Olympic champs is wrong. He is a coward.The 2024 gold medals will be tainted!
@@brydavy No, no Russians are going.
The US squad should do their best to win medals and THEN announce as a squad that they are ALL competing in the Russian Friendship Games from September 15 to 29, 2024. All the best Russian wrestlers will be there, and an announcement by the US squad that they will ALL compete would ensure that the BEST wrestlers from the rest of the world would go. The Friendship Games would then eclipse the Olympics, at least in the sport of wrestling. Our deranged leadership in the US is, as usual, flailing around impotently. They seem to have forgotten that America "goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy." Hell, any American with the capacity for independent thought understands that the monsters that need destroying are all IN THE US.
Thats not right not fair for the people
Well don’t attack a sovereign country lol
The Olympic asterisk games *... I get there have always been politics in the Olympics, but at this point Russia is being persecuted far more than the Germans in WWII mid genocide.
Boohoo Russia. See ya
They must have figured that they won't be able to wrestle while up to their wazoos in PEDs
get fucking politics out of the games recall the goodwill games tryna bring russia to american grewatness
Cry babies.
The heck with those Commies!!
You just like the ones running the country now?
boomer take
Yeah F em
First
June is over. Get rid of this host
Thank you. It's hard to imagine a headline like that and actually believe they should be taken seriously.
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Why were they banned in the first place?
“Russia uses sport for propaganda like no other nation”
Congratulations, this is the most ignorant sports related quote I have heard in years.
Hey dark speaker humen 💝🐱
Awesome! Thank you for your hard work and talent! 👄😻👅