+Joseph Camacho With all fairness to Alan Moore, the previous movie adaptations of his works were fucked up HARD. Don't know if I blame the guy for getting bitter.
+Joseph Camacho the only thing that Synder took from the comic was the way it looked and the action from there on he took a lot of stuff like the comic within the comic, the original Minutemen (the beginning credits just speed through it even tho it was a good intro), and a lot of character development...Cinefix did a video about it
I kinda like that the original author likes the rewrite enough to retcon his own novel and canonize the bastard child. I do like both the film and the novel, and they work nicely as alternate realities of eachother, but I think I do like the film universe a bit better.
They forgot a major difference between the novel and the movie. The movie had many cameos of famous cartoon characters, while in the original novel, it had cameos of famous characters from comic strips, such as Dick Tracy and Snoopy.
It also predicted one aspect of the film, too. It did have a bit where Roger explained where he got the tea kettle, and he explained he was in an adaptation of Alice in Wonderland where he played a dog, and Bugs Bunny got all the critical acclaim from the production.
I think Eddie Valiant pouring out the alcohol was done for practical and symbolic reasons. Practically, Eddie will need to be at his best to deal with what is coming, and he won't be at his best if he's sloshed. Symbolically, I think the pouring out of the alcohol was meant to show Eddie further shedding his cynicalness.
It's a solid parallel to in Pineapple Express when they decide to NOT smoke weed so that they can be at their mental best before going into what they know will be a life and death situation.
Woah the book sounds pretty cool, especially since I like doppleganger stories when done right...The Genie seems to come out of nowhere though... Maybe it's not that way if you read the book.
+KrossoverGod No, it completely comes out of nowhere in the book, they described it perfectly in the video. In a lot of ways Who Censored Roger Rabbit doesn't really feel like a book that was fully planned out in advance, but rather one that was written on the fly, which does give it a very pulpy feel (which was the intent), but does cause it to have the "uh....MAGIC!" ending when it is clear Wolf wrote himself into a corner.
GammaGyroid I don't recall much of that in the movie... maybe only the will appearing at the end. I mean they do introduce the disappearing ink, but it would have been better if they also showed it reappearing on Eddie Valiant's clothes during the movie. However that's a minor thing, I can't think about much else.
The book is fantastic, and so is the movie. This is a rare instance where both media shine independently even though they are incredibly different. Perhaps it's because of the differences that make both seem like different tales of the same canon.
This is a case I've noticed a lot recently in which a good premise can either be made or broken with its execution. While the novel is interesting, the movie simply took the premise and ran with it into cinematic history, being so successful, it actually inspired Disney to begin their animated renaissance, as previously Disney was starting to question if animated movies were still profitable. Given how Frozen has has recently earned them a billion dollars in box office alone, they're certainly glad with the decision.
+aceotaku Well you should definitely read the book. It's worth it. But if you really want the quick version, here goes: The DeGreasey brothers came across the magic lantern years earlier and used the genie to cross over and create a major comic strip empire. The lantern was eventually stolen and an attempt to destroy the genie was made by throwing it into a barrel and sinking it into the ocean. A treasure hunter finds it during a dive and it ends up at a junkyard owned by Benny the beetle. He sells it to a production of Alice in Wonderland in which Roger was cast as a dog. It was his first major strip, so he took what he assumed as a piece of junk tea kettle home as a souvenir. The DeGreasy brothers find out Roger has the lantern after Jessica comes back to Rocco and mentions it. So that's why both Dom DeGreasy and Jessica are so keen to get their hands on it.
I'd actually be really interested to see a faithful adaptation of the book someday, maybe as a TV movie. A grungier, weirder story about toons and humans would be fascinating and the dopples would be quite touching to investigate.
+Casey Redmon The comedy cartoon "10 ton weight" in the background might have thrown you into confusion regarding your knowledge of animated heavy objects. That's the excuse I would use anyway.
If the movie was made in the 90's and was more faithful to the noir novel, wouldn't it be interesting to see Genie from Aladdin be the Genie from the novel?
***** Jesus, will you stop bitching about that?! They're going to do that later on. That was a FUCKING JOKE! They made a foreshadowing joke that was made to sound harsh.
I don't know about you guys, but the image of bob Hoskins and Robin Williams genie beating the crap out of one another probably would have been one of the biggest mind screws in cartoon history...
Oh man, that being a dream of Jessica Rabbit is actually haunting. It's actually SUPER DEEP. She dreams that her boyfriend commits crimes via a doppleganger - an empty, hollow, vacuous shell. She becomes a reflection of what people "see" in her. It's like a bizarro universe, as Jessica Rabbit is constantly bombarded by people who believe her to be just a loveless and thoughtless bombshell - ironically being escorted around by vacuous empty superficial shells themselves. She dreams of her husband creating a similar version of that himself. Her Roger Rabbit is brave and strong and heroic - so to her, his villain version, would employ an empty shell and fight for ambition when really he just wants to make people laugh. She projects her own feelings of inadequacy unto him as well as herself. The fact that she fears these "dopplegangers" while dreaming about them makes it so dreamlike, especially in that she imagines herself as stealing a bunch of money and running away, being a "gold digger" of which is the dark side everyone treats her as. The superficial "fear" of what all those people say she is, doing what they expect of her rather than being a loyal and loving wife to a humble comedian. They either treat her as a dumb bombshell or a gold digger - which is why she fears it so, and so she IS that, with an evil pairing of the other Roger Rabbit. He uses a doppleganger "persona" to trick people, the literal "fake" version, to begin manipulating them, similar to the way that Jessica Rabbit uses her own "form" to trick people, her beauty IS that vacuous shell that belies her inner goodness. Roger Rabbit's version is a doppleganger that reveals his inner evil but also has an "empty shell" that ultimately reveals his truth - the bizarro version of her beauty hiding the fact that she's really a good person. Man. I love the author made this particular move, because it also very much describes an eternal question... "What do Toons dream of?" SERIOUS AVANTE GARDE STUFF. Man. They need to make a movie about Toons VS. the Speech Bubble cartoons, and these evil dopplegangers show up - and the "copy" version is unique to the paper cartoons, a trick only they can employ, and have a plot involving both the original book and the original film. Just to make this sandwich EXTRA CRUNCHY AVANTE GARDE.... and a treatise commentary on reading a book VS. watching a film. Good Roger Rabbit: "I just want to make people laugh!" Bad Roger Rabbit: "I want to make them think!" "Evil Jessica Rabbit: Bad girls live better, you should care about your own well being!" "Good Jessica Rabbit: You should care about the well being of everyone! Live your life instead of fighting over it!" Add a bunch of paper-cartoon dopplegangers to give the "paper" villains a way to match cartoon hilarity, and maybe even a staunch fragility (make them worn and tattered, yellow and aging) and you've got yourself a Noir SHOWDOWN.
it just sucks that it's never said who framed Roger. at the end of the movie they say it was a rubber mask doom was wearing and they question who it really is, then end. great mystery
There was a comic book sequel called "Roger Rabbit: The Resurrection of Doom" where Judge Doom was originally a cartoon who played villain in many cartoons until accident induced amnesia made him think he was a real villain.
All we ever know about him is that he has a creepy high pitch voice and evil red eyes. Not even the toons themselves know what he really looks like. At least with Wreck It Ralph, there wasn't really any mystery behind Turbo.
Yeah in the original script it's mentioned that Toon Doom was the Hunter who killed Bambi's mother, and Roger goes off about how that guy "gives all toons a bad name" or some such.
So how tall's Elmer Fudd then? They're about the same height, so Fudd must suffer from that medical condition that affects height if Bugs is only 4ft with his ears. And Yosemite Sam? Bugs is TALLER than him. I really don't think Bugs has a consistent canon height.
I read the book myself after hearing there was one. Gotta say, loved how the film made their version use car-TOONs, rather than comic book toons. I also loved how they made their own version despite the big difference in the book.
@@psicopato2460 If you mean the book, characters like Koko the Clown, Dick Tracy, and I think Popeye gets mentioned too. However, it has been a while since I read the book.
Yeah ... about that , zemeckis and Spielberg wrote a sequel to the movie and Disney just said no!! cuz according to Disney no one cares about Rodger rabbit and mostly had a problem with Jessica rabbit because she's was to hot for audience that cant keep it in they're pant hahaha , so Disney had to shut down the sequel, which was disappointing. Even if new writers or producers have scripts or plans for a Rodger rabbit or a reboot for a Rodger rabbit (keep it true to the book) getting an approval from Disney is not going to be easy ...
I thought Disney wanted to do a spinoff animated TV series of Roger and Eddie solving toon capers and since Spielberg didn't approve they turned it into "Bonkers". Even the villain in the pilot was an inverted Judge Doom (a human posing as a toon).
I disagree. The interractions between Bob Hoskins and Roger or the other toon characters are more realistic than any actors with CGI characters these days. It would be full a horrible CGIs and I hate CGIs personally.
margareth michelina. The interactions in the film being realistic, are less about animation style and more about the blood, sweat, and tears that Hoskins and Zemeckis put into the film. Especially Bob Hoskins. He was actually hallucinating after going home from filming and took a year long hiatus when the film was done. Whereas the films "Space Jam" "Cool World" and "Loony Tunes : Back in Action" have the same concept of humans and 2D toons interacting, but less effort and talent put into the projects and it shows. Plus the OP suggested a 100% accurate adaptation of "Who Censored Roger Rabbit" (which would have nothing to do with the universe of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" ) and if that were to happen, making the toons 2D and paint-based would make no sense. In the book's universe, they are paper-based and 3D and can *sometimes* pass for a live human (without the inclusion of a rubber mask, fake eyes or dentures)
Got to say this is one of those cases where it sounds like the movie is actually a better use of the material than the book. And the author seems to think so too.
I've lived 31 years in this world & never knew that "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" was based off of a book. Thanks to this video, I now have to read it & thanks to Disney doing such an amazing job bringing these characters to life, I'll now have mental pictures for them while reading the books. Thank you so much for this. WFRR has always been one of my favorite films, along with "Cool World", which was basically an R-rated inspired-by-the-film version.
It would be interesting to see more of the differences Disney did with some of the other novels made into movies. The one I would love to see you guys do is the lesser known, "The Black Cauldron"
The movie was absolutely amazing in that it managed to get all those Golden Age cartoon characters, from different companies and rights holders. To see Donald Duck and Daffy Duck in a scene together was so unreal. I think that Spielberg used his Hollywood power to achieve this awesome event.
You said the genie's pot needed to be dropped in the ocean, so Eddie put it on a saltwater tank. But the picture you used is of a freshwater discus tank. I'm a nerd. Great video.
I would argue that the character arc displayed by Eddie Valiant quitting booze before going into the tunnel to Toontown being a bit more significant and weighty then just "Disney wanted to have an anti-alcohol message".
There’s someone who does an audio book on who censored roger rabbit which made me feel I’m listening to a movie. Messed up story but was pretty awesome to hear!!
While the book and movie have little in common, it seems like some of the ideas that were left out of the book were borrowed when they made Cool World. Still the movie we got for Roger Rabbit was pretty great.
I would love to see the novel get more appreciation, maybe even its own adaptation, but considering how beloved the film is I think the drastic changed would shatter most fans' perceptions.
+JimB 1985 Hey why not. Maybe change the characters name, maybe even black and white (Sin City Style) with some colors being singled out. Change the rating to PG13, and make it a Netflix Exclusive.
From what I remember the movie is pretty faithfully to the book. With it even have lines taken right out of it. The book has lot more character development but thats true most if not all adaptations. If I think of off the top of my head. Scott's ex girlfriend before Ramona I has lot bigger role in Graphic Novel then movie. She is pretty neglected in the movie. ( but there was cartoon short that does have a major scene with her that was released as promotional tool for the movie)
I enjoy both, have both movie and book. One of the greatest movies ever made. I would also say the book is one of the best written for the detective genre. Gary Wolf, genius. When I received the book I read it one day for the first time, it's that good. I loved the movie, perfect for all ages.Thank you Mr. Wolf.
Yeah, I had to take a break after nearly every chapter. It gets under your skin in a very real way, which is just a testament to Bret Easton Ellis's writing ability. Thanks for the suggestion!
Fan theory: Judge Doom is actually the possum character in the poster of RK Maroon's office wearing a rubber human skin. It has red eyes and a similar haircut to Doom.
i love these :D you forgot to mention the genie's motive for killing roger and how he jinxed all his wishes. such as keeping him stuck as a sidekick forever and giving him jessica rabbit but only for a year. yeah, roger unknowingly roofied his wife lol
11:02- also Doom shares both the homicidal nature of the Genie from the book with his true personality, the antagonistic animated cop by being a judge, and by being a Toon disguised in rubber to be human while the Degreasy brothers are born Toons turnt humans by crossing over.
+CineFix wait wait wait I got this. "Hey thanks a lot, Cinefix! Sorry for my ineptitude!" "No problem, Calignousknight13! Don't beat yourself up too much about it! We all drop the ball on something it would've taken 5 seconds to type in the search bar on a keyboard OR phone in 2016!"
I grew up on the film but when i read the book i was glued to it. And without being bias the film just had something more that the novel didn't. i dont know what it is but something about it is just more enjoyable. The book has good taste, dont get me wrong, and i still enjoy reading it but something about the novel feels like its being dragged on for to long.
Happy 30th.. though, I would imagine a toon drawn by Hiroki araki would leave more than just speech bubbles, he would leave sound effects everywhere he go, huge hiragana letters hanging in midair as he struts down the street..
Wait, imagine having this but with the plot of The Boys. Having Eddy Valiant and a team try to bring down a cartoon animation studio which tries to make the toons seem nicer than they are
0:14 I had no idea Jessica Rabbit was so similar to the girl on Red Hot Riding Hood. Actually, I have never even seen the short before, I'm watching it just now. I just remembered that scene of the wolf from The Mask and looked it up. So cool
First of all, thank you for actually making this. I suggested it on your "7 Things You (Probably) Didn't Know About Roger Rabbit" and I never thought you would actually do it because they are so different. Well as long as we are doing these loose adaptations, why not do a What's the Difference between Die Hard and the novel it is based on, Nothing Lasts Forever. You guys made a Labyrinth video as a tribute to David Bowie, so how about one in tribute to the first film role of the late Alan Rickman
you know when mickey said whats up doc I thought he was talking about The villain in who framed roger rabbit , since he played doc in back to the future
You guys should do an episode for The Mask. Its surprising how much the somewhat family friendly film starring Jim Carrey was altered from the extremely graphic and disturbing comic series.
Thank you for doing this! A classic recognized by everyone but still a seldom spoken of masterpiece. Love this series and I have a few suggestions. Two comics-to-movies that are great examples of adaptations done to perfection. Please can you guys do Sin City and/or Scott Pilgrim? Pretty please with sugar on top :)
Every time I see a knew "What's the Difference" episode in excited, mainly because I never knew most of these movies were adaptations. I though Who Framed Roger Rabbit was an original film. learning things is fun.
It's nice to see a writer actually enjoys a different adaptation to his creation.
it's always nice to not hear someone get butthurt over their work being adapted, even slightly 'cough' Watchmen 'cough'
+Joseph Camacho With all fairness to Alan Moore, the previous movie adaptations of his works were fucked up HARD. Don't know if I blame the guy for getting bitter.
+Joseph Camacho the only thing that Synder took from the comic was the way it looked and the action from there on he took a lot of stuff like the comic within the comic, the original Minutemen (the beginning credits just speed through it even tho it was a good intro), and a lot of character development...Cinefix did a video about it
Even tho Blade Runner the movie and the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep are very different Philip K Dick loved the movie a lot
R. Dahl HATED the 1971 movie, Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
I kinda like that the original author likes the rewrite enough to retcon his own novel and canonize the bastard child. I do like both the film and the novel, and they work nicely as alternate realities of eachother, but I think I do like the film universe a bit better.
+William Bostedt (Red Jack Fabrications) plus lets face it, the movie had a better mystery and a better villain.
@@aceotaku Haven't read the book but it also sounds like the movie has an easier to follow more compact plot.
And if talking about comics (maybe) sweet tooth and the boys.
They forgot a major difference between the novel and the movie. The movie had many cameos of famous cartoon characters, while in the original novel, it had cameos of famous characters from comic strips, such as Dick Tracy and Snoopy.
Cool
Wow sounded even better!
There was also ironically one of Mickey Mouse, though he was never referred to by name just description.
There is also the fact that Eddie was a heavy smoker.
It also predicted one aspect of the film, too. It did have a bit where Roger explained where he got the tea kettle, and he explained he was in an adaptation of Alice in Wonderland where he played a dog, and Bugs Bunny got all the critical acclaim from the production.
The ending of the book actually sounds... pretty good to me. It's not sad, it's not happy, it's just: *W h o a*
Wobble Wub what happens at the end
More like: *That was a waste of my time*
To be honest I would be fascinated with mystery novels but
_e v e r y o n e d i e d t h e e n d_
This video actually got me to finally buy the book on Kindle. I was actually entertained by it.
THATS NOIR FOLKS
You mean cathartic?
12:45 One of the rare cases where the original writer PREFERS THE FULM OVER HIS ORIGINAL WORK.
Fight Club
MrParkerman6, we don’t talk about that
@@doctordeathdefying132
Why?
@@vintheguy because no one talks about Fight Club
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That joke was funny in like... 2009
"And haunts kids dreams long into adulthood." Yep that's the best way to sum up that scene.
Cartoon Doom terrified me as a child and gave me nightmares. I was in denial when I found out that Christopher Lloyd played him.
One of the rare cases where the author thinks the movie version is better than his original story.
I think Eddie Valiant pouring out the alcohol was done for practical and symbolic reasons. Practically, Eddie will need to be at his best to deal with what is coming, and he won't be at his best if he's sloshed. Symbolically, I think the pouring out of the alcohol was meant to show Eddie further shedding his cynicalness.
it was also symbolic for letting go of emotional baggage
It's a solid parallel to in Pineapple Express when they decide to NOT smoke weed so that they can be at their mental best before going into what they know will be a life and death situation.
Its great character development
@@PapaJoJ Yup, the film implied he started drinking after Teddy was killed.
Woah the book sounds pretty cool, especially since I like doppleganger stories when done right...The Genie seems to come out of nowhere though... Maybe it's not that way if you read the book.
+KrossoverGod No, it completely comes out of nowhere in the book, they described it perfectly in the video. In a lot of ways Who Censored Roger Rabbit doesn't really feel like a book that was fully planned out in advance, but rather one that was written on the fly, which does give it a very pulpy feel (which was the intent), but does cause it to have the "uh....MAGIC!" ending when it is clear Wolf wrote himself into a corner.
+Chris Mohr
I haven't read the book, (so I'm not defending it) but the movie has some pretty "uh... MAGIC" moments as well.
+GammaGyroid though most of that can be justified due to being more properly influenced by classic cartoon tropes.
GammaGyroid I don't recall much of that in the movie... maybe only the will appearing at the end. I mean they do introduce the disappearing ink, but it would have been better if they also showed it reappearing on Eddie Valiant's clothes during the movie. However that's a minor thing, I can't think about much else.
KrossoverGod
Everything you said was what I was refering to.
(Again, I have never read the book and I love this movie)
The book is fantastic, and so is the movie. This is a rare instance where both media shine independently even though they are incredibly different. Perhaps it's because of the differences that make both seem like different tales of the same canon.
Now I, REALLY, want to read that book. .-.
You should. It's a fun read.
+Atisuto “Artist” Chibi Well now you pretty much know every aspect of it, lol.
InfamousJJ Doesn't change my want to read it. There could be quite a few parts of the book they didn't mention in this video. :3
I want to read the novel, myself....
+Atisuto Chibi (“Artist”) I definitely recommend it ! It was well worth the time !
As much as I love this movie, I'm now intrigued by the idea of much darker and faithful adaptation in the style of the novel.
I'd totally watch it.
This is a case I've noticed a lot recently in which a good premise can either be made or broken with its execution. While the novel is interesting, the movie simply took the premise and ran with it into cinematic history, being so successful, it actually inspired Disney to begin their animated renaissance, as previously Disney was starting to question if animated movies were still profitable. Given how Frozen has has recently earned them a billion dollars in box office alone, they're certainly glad with the decision.
Wait wait, I'd like a further explanation on the concept "Crossing Over". Seriously, does no one else find that crazy, how does that even work?
+TheFury92Returns They made a wish with the genie. Boom. Magic.
+Casey Redmon ...the genie they didn't have and spent most of the book trying to get for...reasons? Seriously, these glossed over a bit I think.
+aceotaku Well you should definitely read the book. It's worth it. But if you really want the quick version, here goes:
The DeGreasey brothers came across the magic lantern years earlier and used the genie to cross over and create a major comic strip empire. The lantern was eventually stolen and an attempt to destroy the genie was made by throwing it into a barrel and sinking it into the ocean. A treasure hunter finds it during a dive and it ends up at a junkyard owned by Benny the beetle. He sells it to a production of Alice in Wonderland in which Roger was cast as a dog. It was his first major strip, so he took what he assumed as a piece of junk tea kettle home as a souvenir. The DeGreasy brothers find out Roger has the lantern after Jessica comes back to Rocco and mentions it. So that's why both Dom DeGreasy and Jessica are so keen to get their hands on it.
+Casey Redmon And why did the genie decide to kill Roger and Dom?
He was fed up with granting other people's wishes. Plus he's naturally psychotic, not unlike Judge Doom.
I'd actually be really interested to see a faithful adaptation of the book someday, maybe as a TV movie. A grungier, weirder story about toons and humans would be fascinating and the dopples would be quite touching to investigate.
A TV series would be better. More time to develop characters
I doubt they would ever do so. Even the author of the book likes the movie way better than the book.
Amelle Kyre You could always go the Helix route which 'adapted' The Thing but changed enough to avoid copyright :)
bloodrunsclear Seems highly unlikely they will get away with it tho. Also I doubt it would be worth it.
Amelle Kyre I dunno...I'd personally watch a Noir production with live action and animation...but I am a little odd
5:40 That is a safe, not an anvil.
You are so right. Why the hell did I say anvil? Jeeze, must be watching too much looney tunes. Thanks for catching that.
+Casey Redmon The comedy cartoon "10 ton weight" in the background might have thrown you into confusion regarding your knowledge of animated heavy objects.
That's the excuse I would use anyway.
+Dan Xepha You have no idea how many of us watched the cut and didn't catch this.
Just fix it with annotations! Yay!
+Dan Xepha Just about to point that out. Glad someone else spotted that
If the movie was made in the 90's and was more faithful to the noir novel, wouldn't it be interesting to see Genie from Aladdin be the Genie from the novel?
+revolverswitch That was done at least twice I think. Insomnia and One Hour Photo.
+revolverswitch
He's right.
+James A. McCloy (James) Stop crying like baby and maybe they might. How many times could you moan about this?
***** Jesus, will you stop bitching about that?! They're going to do that later on. That was a FUCKING JOKE! They made a foreshadowing joke that was made to sound harsh.
I don't know about you guys, but the image of bob Hoskins and Robin Williams genie beating the crap out of one another probably would have been one of the biggest mind screws in cartoon history...
Oh man, that being a dream of Jessica Rabbit is actually haunting. It's actually SUPER DEEP.
She dreams that her boyfriend commits crimes via a doppleganger - an empty, hollow, vacuous shell. She becomes a reflection of what people "see" in her.
It's like a bizarro universe, as Jessica Rabbit is constantly bombarded by people who believe her to be just a loveless and thoughtless bombshell - ironically being escorted around by vacuous empty superficial shells themselves. She dreams of her husband creating a similar version of that himself. Her Roger Rabbit is brave and strong and heroic - so to her, his villain version, would employ an empty shell and fight for ambition when really he just wants to make people laugh. She projects her own feelings of inadequacy unto him as well as herself.
The fact that she fears these "dopplegangers" while dreaming about them makes it so dreamlike, especially in that she imagines herself as stealing a bunch of money and running away, being a "gold digger" of which is the dark side everyone treats her as. The superficial "fear" of what all those people say she is, doing what they expect of her rather than being a loyal and loving wife to a humble comedian.
They either treat her as a dumb bombshell or a gold digger - which is why she fears it so, and so she IS that, with an evil pairing of the other Roger Rabbit. He uses a doppleganger "persona" to trick people, the literal "fake" version, to begin manipulating them, similar to the way that Jessica Rabbit uses her own "form" to trick people, her beauty IS that vacuous shell that belies her inner goodness. Roger Rabbit's version is a doppleganger that reveals his inner evil but also has an "empty shell" that ultimately reveals his truth - the bizarro version of her beauty hiding the fact that she's really a good person.
Man.
I love the author made this particular move, because it also very much describes an eternal question...
"What do Toons dream of?"
SERIOUS AVANTE GARDE STUFF.
Man.
They need to make a movie about Toons VS. the Speech Bubble cartoons, and these evil dopplegangers show up - and the "copy" version is unique to the paper cartoons, a trick only they can employ, and have a plot involving both the original book and the original film.
Just to make this sandwich EXTRA CRUNCHY AVANTE GARDE.... and a treatise commentary on reading a book VS. watching a film.
Good Roger Rabbit: "I just want to make people laugh!"
Bad Roger Rabbit: "I want to make them think!"
"Evil Jessica Rabbit: Bad girls live better, you should care about your own well being!"
"Good Jessica Rabbit: You should care about the well being of everyone! Live your life instead of fighting over it!"
Add a bunch of paper-cartoon dopplegangers to give the "paper" villains a way to match cartoon hilarity, and maybe even a staunch fragility (make them worn and tattered, yellow and aging) and you've got yourself a Noir SHOWDOWN.
it just sucks that it's never said who framed Roger. at the end of the movie they say it was a rubber mask doom was wearing and they question who it really is, then end. great mystery
There was a comic book sequel called "Roger Rabbit: The Resurrection of Doom" where Judge Doom was originally a cartoon who played villain in many cartoons until accident induced amnesia made him think he was a real villain.
All we ever know about him is that he has a creepy high pitch voice and evil red eyes. Not even the toons themselves know what he really looks like. At least with Wreck It Ralph, there wasn't really any mystery behind Turbo.
Lol, I read somewhere that in the movie it would be referenced that Doom shot Bambi's mother
Yeah in the original script it's mentioned that Toon Doom was the Hunter who killed Bambi's mother, and Roger goes off about how that guy "gives all toons a bad name" or some such.
A theory I read that seems pretty convincing is that Doom was the "Pistol-Packin' Possum" character who appears on a movie poster in Maroon's office.
A 6 foot rabbit is fucking scary
Dominic Esquivel I think he's like 5"7 with his ears reaching to the 6 ft mark. It's a normal bugs bunny size.
Bugs Bunny is actually 3*3 with his ears reaching the 4 ft mark. Trust me, I've seen Space Jam enough times to know that.
So how tall's Elmer Fudd then? They're about the same height, so Fudd must suffer from that medical condition that affects height if Bugs is only 4ft with his ears. And Yosemite Sam? Bugs is TALLER than him.
I really don't think Bugs has a consistent canon height.
Dominic Esquivel What about Harvey?
And what's even worse about Harvey is most people can't see him! ;)
wow the original roger rabbit is depressing
I read the book myself after hearing there was one. Gotta say, loved how the film made their version use car-TOONs, rather than comic book toons. I also loved how they made their own version despite the big difference in the book.
What Comic Toons appear in the book?
@@psicopato2460 If you mean the book, characters like Koko the Clown, Dick Tracy, and I think Popeye gets mentioned too. However, it has been a while since I read the book.
@@CrimsonNineTail cool, thanks
The books sounds great, but I can see why it would be difficult to adapt into a movie without major changes.
They should do a remake of the film and have it 100% true to the book. I am one of the few people who read the book before seeing the movie.
Yeah ... about that , zemeckis and Spielberg wrote a sequel to the movie and Disney just said no!! cuz according to Disney no one cares about Rodger rabbit and mostly had a problem with Jessica rabbit because she's was to hot for audience that cant keep it in they're pant hahaha , so Disney had to shut down the sequel, which was disappointing. Even if new writers or producers have scripts or plans for a Rodger rabbit or a reboot for a Rodger rabbit (keep it true to the book) getting an approval from Disney is not going to be easy ...
A) It would suck. And B) it would suck.
I thought Disney wanted to do a spinoff animated TV series of Roger and Eddie solving toon capers and since Spielberg didn't approve they turned it into "Bonkers".
Even the villain in the pilot was an inverted Judge Doom (a human posing as a toon).
I disagree. The interractions between Bob Hoskins and Roger or the other toon characters are more realistic than any actors with CGI characters these days. It would be full a horrible CGIs and I hate CGIs personally.
margareth michelina. The interactions in the film being realistic, are less about animation style and more about the blood, sweat, and tears that Hoskins and Zemeckis put into the film.
Especially Bob Hoskins. He was actually hallucinating after going home from filming and took a year long hiatus when the film was done.
Whereas the films "Space Jam" "Cool World" and "Loony Tunes : Back in Action" have the same concept of humans and 2D toons interacting, but less effort and talent put into the projects and it shows.
Plus the OP suggested a 100% accurate adaptation of "Who Censored Roger Rabbit" (which would have nothing to do with the universe of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" ) and if that were to happen, making the toons 2D and paint-based would make no sense. In the book's universe, they are paper-based and 3D and can *sometimes* pass for a live human (without the inclusion of a rubber mask, fake eyes or dentures)
after watching this i really wanna read the novel... way more darker that how i prefer it..
Got to say this is one of those cases where it sounds like the movie is actually a better use of the material than the book. And the author seems to think so too.
I've lived 31 years in this world & never knew that "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" was based off of a book. Thanks to this video, I now have to read it & thanks to Disney doing such an amazing job bringing these characters to life, I'll now have mental pictures for them while reading the books.
Thank you so much for this. WFRR has always been one of my favorite films, along with "Cool World", which was basically an R-rated inspired-by-the-film version.
This is a good example of a really good book with a really good adaptation despite the two being really different
Maybe do The Godfather? That'd be nice.
Or maybe Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?
It would be interesting to see more of the differences Disney did with some of the other novels made into movies. The one I would love to see you guys do is the lesser known, "The Black Cauldron"
Could you please do Coraline cause the movie and the book is slightly different
Merchiodos Slightly? Try a lot different.
Holy hell theres a book i gotta go
coraline is just a watered down rip off of 'the thief of always' by clive barker.
Just a fix, Eddie in the novel was a smoker. Not a drinker. Wikipedia is kinda mixed actually.
Sounds like the movie had a much better plot.
The movie was absolutely amazing in that it managed to get all those Golden Age cartoon characters, from different companies and rights holders. To see Donald Duck and Daffy Duck in a scene together was so unreal. I think that Spielberg used his Hollywood power to achieve this awesome event.
The book sounds like Gary K. Wolf did *WAY* too much LSD.
You said the genie's pot needed to be dropped in the ocean, so Eddie put it on a saltwater tank. But the picture you used is of a freshwater discus tank.
I'm a nerd.
Great video.
Wow! Haha I am in awe of your geek-a-tude. Kudos!
+1bennettua They also said Acme was killed by an anvil and when they showed the scene from the film it was in fact a safe.
A wizard did it
Thank goodness this series isn't cancelled!!
Almost thought you guys forgot about doing vids like these. Do one on the Jungle book plz
I would argue that the character arc displayed by Eddie Valiant quitting booze before going into the tunnel to Toontown being a bit more significant and weighty then just "Disney wanted to have an anti-alcohol message".
Actually Marvin Acme had a SAFE dropped on him.("Just like a toon to drop a safe on a guy's head.")
Be1lover Yeah, the strangest looking anvil I've ever seen!
With a little reworking, I could see a great Netflix series that follows the book more closely.
There’s someone who does an audio book on who censored roger rabbit which made me feel I’m listening to a movie. Messed up story but was pretty awesome to hear!!
While the book and movie have little in common, it seems like some of the ideas that were left out of the book were borrowed when they made Cool World. Still the movie we got for Roger Rabbit was pretty great.
I would love to see the novel get more appreciation, maybe even its own adaptation, but considering how beloved the film is I think the drastic changed would shatter most fans' perceptions.
+JimB 1985 Hey why not. Maybe change the characters name, maybe even black and white (Sin City Style) with some colors being singled out. Change the rating to PG13, and make it a Netflix Exclusive.
I would love to see a What's the Difference on Scott Pilgrim vs. the World.
+Cam TriforceMan They did one im sure of it. Check for yourself
+jediharold12 we haven't done Scott Pilgrim yet. But perhaps I'm reading it as we speak...perhaps...
+Casey Redmon Well now i just feel silly. Cool you replied, awesome video
From what I remember the movie is pretty faithfully to the book. With it even have lines taken right out of it. The book has lot more character development but thats true most if not all adaptations. If I think of off the top of my head. Scott's ex girlfriend before Ramona I
has lot bigger role in Graphic Novel then movie. She is pretty neglected in the movie. ( but there was cartoon short that does have a major scene with her that was released as promotional tool for the movie)
It's here.
12:10 “Mr. Valiant, I don’t feel so good.”
Over "2 decades ago"? Try "3 decades ago"...
Man, that hurt. I am old...
Do battle royal what's the difference!!!
Yes!!!!!
+WhiteTuxMafiaAndFilms Yes, good pick.
Though they should do it with the manga, novel and movie.
yes that'd be amazing
+matty Really? I thought the movie did a really good job at creating a bleak and depressing atmosphere. Never knew it was based on a book until now.
I enjoy both, have both movie and book. One of the greatest movies ever made. I would also say the book is one of the best written for the detective genre. Gary Wolf, genius. When I received the book I read it one day for the first time, it's that good. I loved the movie, perfect for all ages.Thank you Mr. Wolf.
What's the difference: Coraline?
Out of all the types of video that you do "What's the difference?" is my favourite.
Of all the scenes 😧 I'm 37 and still to this day I turn my head when that poor little shoe gets dipped.
He just didn't deserve it man
American Psycho- What's the Difference?
Because hoo boy have I heard some interesting things about that book...
Yeah, I had to take a break after nearly every chapter. It gets under your skin in a very real way, which is just a testament to Bret Easton Ellis's writing ability. Thanks for the suggestion!
Fan theory: Judge Doom is actually the possum character in the poster of RK Maroon's office wearing a rubber human skin. It has red eyes and a similar haircut to Doom.
i love these :D
you forgot to mention the genie's motive for killing roger and how he jinxed all his wishes. such as keeping him stuck as a sidekick forever and giving him jessica rabbit but only for a year. yeah, roger unknowingly roofied his wife lol
11:02- also Doom shares both the homicidal nature of the Genie from the book with his true personality, the antagonistic animated cop by being a judge, and by being a Toon disguised in rubber to be human while the Degreasy brothers are born Toons turnt humans by crossing over.
Another great episode, but I have to ask. Is "Whats the difference A Space Odyssey Part 2" gone forever??
+Caliginousknight13 Nope. It's right here: th-cam.com/video/zCFthN-KRPo/w-d-xo.html
+CineFix wait wait wait I got this. "Hey thanks a lot, Cinefix! Sorry for my ineptitude!"
"No problem, Calignousknight13! Don't beat yourself up too much about it! We all drop the ball on something it would've taken 5 seconds to type in the search bar on a keyboard OR phone in 2016!"
+CineFix you should do one of these for John dies at the end
hmmm i have been meaning to read that one.
I remember hearing a long time ago that there was talk about making a prequel movie. Too bad nothing came of it.
12:10 Mr Valiant, I don’t feel so good...
Since it's 2016, you guys should do Blade Runner soon!
I grew up on the film but when i read the book i was glued to it. And without being bias the film just had something more that the novel didn't. i dont know what it is but something about it is just more enjoyable. The book has good taste, dont get me wrong, and i still enjoy reading it but something about the novel feels like its being dragged on for to long.
I absolutely adore the movie, and the book is a great read too! Both make me so happy :)
I didn't even know this was a book! it's one of my favorite movies of all time so now I have to read the book.
Movie Jessica Rabbit deserves a hug with Roger.
As a fan of film noire, the book version actually sounds awesome !
Wait... The genie disappears in a billow of smoke... But the dopples are the only ones who puff out like that.
Hmm...
Great choice for a video. Thanks for knocking these out, my favorite things to watch. Can't wait to see what you decide on next!!
can you please do this with Stephen King's "Carrie" ?
Gøthicc which one? The original, the TV movie, or the remake?
Yes
Cooper Minion there was never a TV movie and the book and original movie are totally different
@@batgurrl There was in fact a TV movie, it came out in 2002. It gets a lot of flack, but it actually follows the book pretty closely.
Ken Hollis there was a 2 part miniseries produced by King himself with Rebecca De Mornay playing Wendy but I don’t remember any movie
R*I*P Bob Hoskins... and the original Roger Rabbit.
To be honest I never knew that Roger Rabbit came from a book.
Moon Door me neither!
Me too. Now I know.
Happy 30th.. though, I would imagine a toon drawn by Hiroki araki would leave more than just speech bubbles, he would leave sound effects everywhere he go, huge hiragana letters hanging in midair as he struts down the street..
I would say that this a great example of a movie adaptation being better than the original book.
I've never read the original book before but I honestly want to now, it sounds pretty good.
Am I the only one who finds it creepy that Roger was dead but was still helping Eddy from beyond the grave via clone in the original version?
Book Eddie was so trope, he could have been named 'Generic Detective' for accuracy.
Oh boy another new what's the difference! i don't care what you do next. Just keep going!
Well, I wasn't expecting this. Awesome work guys!
You should do Forrest Gump: What's The Difference? if you haven't already.
Wait, imagine having this but with the plot of The Boys.
Having Eddy Valiant and a team try to bring down a cartoon animation studio which tries to make the toons seem nicer than they are
Always loved this movie and wondered what the differences were in the book. Thanks for doing this!
Thanks for watching!
So everything is canon practically because of the movie. Jessica all this time dreamt of who censored roger rabbit.
Sounds like cool world sampled from both versions.
0:14
I had no idea Jessica Rabbit was so similar to the girl on Red Hot Riding Hood.
Actually, I have never even seen the short before, I'm watching it just now. I just remembered that scene of the wolf from The Mask and looked it up.
So cool
Another case of movie adaption being more family-friendly than the original source material
First of all, thank you for actually making this. I suggested it on your "7 Things You (Probably) Didn't Know About Roger Rabbit" and I never thought you would actually do it because they are so different. Well as long as we are doing these loose adaptations, why not do a What's the Difference between Die Hard and the novel it is based on, Nothing Lasts Forever. You guys made a Labyrinth video as a tribute to David Bowie, so how about one in tribute to the first film role of the late Alan Rickman
Finally, another what's the difference! I'm so excited!
The book version doesn't sound too bad, but both it and the movie version were alright still.
you know when mickey said whats up doc I thought he was talking about The villain in who framed roger rabbit , since he played doc in back to the future
That's Bugs' catchphrase, not Mickey's.
Another awesome episode guys. My vote for next video goes to Requiem for a Dream.
I prefer the movie instead the book
You guys should do an episode for The Mask. Its surprising how much the somewhat family friendly film starring Jim Carrey was altered from the extremely graphic and disturbing comic series.
And Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH!
I was so glad that you also thought "what's the same?" because that was my first thought when seeing the thumbnail.
Thank you for doing this! A classic recognized by everyone but still a seldom spoken of masterpiece. Love this series and I have a few suggestions. Two comics-to-movies that are great examples of adaptations done to perfection. Please can you guys do Sin City and/or Scott Pilgrim? Pretty please with sugar on top :)
Well if you put sugar on top...
Roger rabbit was one of my favorite movies when I was growing up! :)
In the book I'm pretty sure the word balloons leave a pile of dust just like the doppelgangers do.
Sometimes. The balloons depend heavily on the context of the conversation. And I think Eddie pops a few.
I've read the book and seen the movie. I think they're both really cool, despite the fact that they're so different! Great video!
Every time I see a knew "What's the Difference" episode in excited, mainly because I never knew most of these movies were adaptations. I though Who Framed Roger Rabbit was an original film. learning things is fun.
"Hyuck! Rodger, you've been chosen by the keyblade! We gotta go save Jessica from the heartless!"
You guys should do The Martian or Starship Troopers next.
how about "What's the difference: I Am Legend" ?