The fundamental difference boils down to Imamah, which is infallible individuals from the lineage of the Prophet PBUH who are his divinely appointed successors. According to Shia it is usool ad deen (fundamental principle of the religion). The problem comes into play when you learn what Allah has to say in the Quran. A very important principle is established in Quran 3:7, which is the basis for my argument. In this verse Allah says that the foundations of the Quran are all clear and precise. This means that whatever is foundational is going to be clearly established in the Quran. We can see plenty of evidence for all of the usools that Sunnis believe in: tawhid, salah, prophets, angels, qiyamah, hajj, etc. are all there, clearly and precisely. There is not a single fundamental belief that sunnis have that is not clearly and precisely stated in the Quran. On top of this, there are details for each of these given in the Quran, even if they're not every detail. But we're not even looking for details. We just want a verse showing their usool clearly and precisely mentioned in the Quran. When you explore the justifications for imamah that shias give from the Quran you'll find that none of them clearly and precisely refer to the shia concept of imamah. They'll point to verses about general leadership, verses about prophets, verses that say the word "imam" and son on, but they can never point to a verse that clearly and precisely mentions the shia concept of what imamah is. Every verse is ambiguous. And if you refer back to Quran 3:7 Allah tells us something very important about such people. He says that those who have deviance in their hearts seek to follow what is unspecific and seek discord and an interpretation suitable to them. That is an exact description of the Shia, unfortunatley. Alhamdulillah, this argument is air tight and shias are time and time again unable to address this. They'll jump to the ambiguous verses, they'll jump to hadith, they jump to this and that, but they'll never give you a clear and precise verse about their concept of imamah because no such verse exists. According to them it is usool ad deen, and Allah said that those are all clearly and precisely mentioned in the Quran. The fact that it isn't is enough to demonstrate that shiism is not correct and should not be followed.
This issue arises because you individuals lack an understanding of Imammah and yet persist in debating us about it. First, educate yourselves about Imammah, and then it will become abundantly clear! Our concept is far clearer in every aspect compared to Sunnis'. For instance, the manner in which you have appointed Abu Bakr lacks any substantial evidence. It is not the Sunnah of any Prophet to leave the appointment of a successor unaddressed. Throughout history, individuals have been appointed by Allah SWT and by all the prophets. Only incidents like Ghadeer Khum and the virtues of Imam Ali (AS) dismantle the Sunni belief system entirely. Another aspect that lacks coherence in Sunni Islam is the concept of 'Adelate Sahaba.' This is merely a fabricated concept created to conceal the faults and crimes of certain companions. There are too many problems in Sunni Islam. Allah SWT left us the Quran and Ahlulbayt (AS); this has always been the message of Rasulullah (SAW). Instead of merely commenting with words that hold no value, engage in debate with us. Bring your scholars, as we are the fastest-growing Islamic sect within Islam itself. Why? Because we are converting millions of Sunnis in Africa and around the world.
@@arari8578 Then educate me on what imamah is if I have it so wrong. Address my points and arguments, please. Please don't jump elsewhere. Debunk my argument or show why it's flawed and doesn't work.
" The Jews say, "The Christians have nothing [true] to stand on," and the Christians say, "The Jews have nothing to stand on," although they [both] recite the Scripture"
Al ham du li lah for being a Shia . We are so blessed but I believe our punishment is double . We have no excuse to be arrogant nor ignorant . We inherited the religion and also learned it
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God bless the Shia of Ahlulbeit
Brother saf got me with when he said we have one book we trust full that is the Quran, nice work and may allah(swt) bless your channel
Why is wisdom seeker trying to debate Shia n he doesn’t even know our books embarrassing
shia is expanding mashallah
So we learned that Aisha is an ayoosha nice.
The fundamental difference boils down to Imamah, which is infallible individuals from the lineage of the Prophet PBUH who are his divinely appointed successors. According to Shia it is usool ad deen (fundamental principle of the religion).
The problem comes into play when you learn what Allah has to say in the Quran. A very important principle is established in Quran 3:7, which is the basis for my argument. In this verse Allah says that the foundations of the Quran are all clear and precise. This means that whatever is foundational is going to be clearly established in the Quran. We can see plenty of evidence for all of the usools that Sunnis believe in: tawhid, salah, prophets, angels, qiyamah, hajj, etc. are all there, clearly and precisely. There is not a single fundamental belief that sunnis have that is not clearly and precisely stated in the Quran. On top of this, there are details for each of these given in the Quran, even if they're not every detail. But we're not even looking for details. We just want a verse showing their usool clearly and precisely mentioned in the Quran.
When you explore the justifications for imamah that shias give from the Quran you'll find that none of them clearly and precisely refer to the shia concept of imamah. They'll point to verses about general leadership, verses about prophets, verses that say the word "imam" and son on, but they can never point to a verse that clearly and precisely mentions the shia concept of what imamah is. Every verse is ambiguous. And if you refer back to Quran 3:7 Allah tells us something very important about such people. He says that those who have deviance in their hearts seek to follow what is unspecific and seek discord and an interpretation suitable to them. That is an exact description of the Shia, unfortunatley.
Alhamdulillah, this argument is air tight and shias are time and time again unable to address this. They'll jump to the ambiguous verses, they'll jump to hadith, they jump to this and that, but they'll never give you a clear and precise verse about their concept of imamah because no such verse exists. According to them it is usool ad deen, and Allah said that those are all clearly and precisely mentioned in the Quran. The fact that it isn't is enough to demonstrate that shiism is not correct and should not be followed.
This issue arises because you individuals lack an understanding of Imammah and yet persist in debating us about it. First, educate yourselves about Imammah, and then it will become abundantly clear! Our concept is far clearer in every aspect compared to Sunnis'. For instance, the manner in which you have appointed Abu Bakr lacks any substantial evidence. It is not the Sunnah of any Prophet to leave the appointment of a successor unaddressed. Throughout history, individuals have been appointed by Allah SWT and by all the prophets. Only incidents like Ghadeer Khum and the virtues of Imam Ali (AS) dismantle the Sunni belief system entirely.
Another aspect that lacks coherence in Sunni Islam is the concept of 'Adelate Sahaba.' This is merely a fabricated concept created to conceal the faults and crimes of certain companions. There are too many problems in Sunni Islam. Allah SWT left us the Quran and Ahlulbayt (AS); this has always been the message of Rasulullah (SAW). Instead of merely commenting with words that hold no value, engage in debate with us. Bring your scholars, as we are the fastest-growing Islamic sect within Islam itself. Why? Because we are converting millions of Sunnis in Africa and around the world.
@@arari8578 Then educate me on what imamah is if I have it so wrong. Address my points and arguments, please. Please don't jump elsewhere. Debunk my argument or show why it's flawed and doesn't work.
Alhamdulillah sunnis can read arabic fluently 🤲🤲🤲
You fool 🤮🤣
Wisdom seeker is the king at giving non hujjah sources 💀
Ahsant
" The Jews say, "The Christians have nothing [true] to stand on," and the Christians say, "The Jews have nothing to stand on," although they [both] recite the Scripture"
Some people love wasting their times
Al ham du li lah for being a Shia . We are so blessed but I believe our punishment is double . We have no excuse to be arrogant nor ignorant . We inherited the religion and also learned it
When's the next debate date