This cart was originally shared on Reddit and I, along with a bunch of other people, recommended he reach out to you. Glad he actually did because it was fun to learn about the story behind this cart.
@Apple just what I said. It's nearly useless in regards to problem solving/help. It's over moderated. In the last decade I've only had 1 or 2 questions/comments help me with an issue I was having. Too strict and too many elitists.
@Apple Yea it's unfortunate. I've had a tiff with other forums that behaved the same way. They're not around anymore. The elitists don't want to be "bothered" by basic questions so they don't answer them, but it's a common question so people are asking all the time. That RTFM or google it mentality is causing most of their problems. If people would just let those questions be asked then answer them it would stop people from asking because they could see them via a search result. It's a like a paradox or something that works to their and everyone else's detriment. I believe it comes from pre internet days where when someone had to solve a problem there was no easy way to figure it out other than reading documentation and learning how to resolve the issue yourself. But that time is gone and there is no need to artificially hold someone back from progress with that mindset. Just my two cents. And not nagging at you or anything, just sharing my thoughts/experiences. Happy Holidays!
If anybody is interested in his video game collection, checkout his video titled "2019 HUGE Game Room Tour". He definitely a bit of an archivist for the games he's interested in.
I always hope other Sega Channel carts get found so we could see some of the other menus and games that are presumed lost to time, like Garfield The Lost Levels, and a Chess game that I have not seen since then (Chessmaster, I think).
@Default Man If it's truly one-of-a-kind or even so rare that a dump doesn't already exist, then it won't matter if you make a dump or not because the people who will pay top dollar for the physical item will not be satisfied by a rom dump.
Man this is interesting, especially how the founder of Technopop remembered exactly that he stuck the VISITOR sticker on the cart, and that the code was the origin for probably hundreds of Genesis games
What's interesting is that it looks like one of the later dev boards (cartridge shell sized, possibly with NVRAM for saves) and not one of the early 90's dev boards (which were MUCH larger with dip switches to set the addressing for different sized EPROMs and CR2032 battery backed SRAM). If Randall's anecdote about visiting SOA HQ in the early 90s is correct then it's quite possible there may be more physical copies of 'Ship' kicking around than this single one. The fact that 'Ship' was a used as a tech demo and two different binaries (one compiled from source) have been found also supports this theory. It's amazing how all the elements of this mystery cartridge saga came together to give a coherent (and historically significant) answer.
This reminds me of that story on how the second copy of the Declaration of Independence was found by accident inside an old portrait. You must feel honored to have had an important piece of video game history essentially handed to you on a silver platter.
Oooh, this kind of stuff is awesome. Also honestly dumping and sharing these is the right thing to do imo, especially with many rare carts ending up in private collections and never seen again.
This looks to be an attempt at an implementation of "spacewar!" Spacewar! Was one of the first video games first written in like 1962. It was also one of the first cabinet video games. It was always a two-player game originally, and it was just a dog fight between two ships that took place in the gravity well. The arcade implementation let you adjust the direction and strength of the gravity of the central star, and the point of the game was to blow up the other player.
Dude, this was incredible. It's getting harder and harder to come across obscure bits of gaming history from this era and this is about as unique a story was you can get. Great job!
Great video, what a neat find! I remember getting Zero Tolerance as a kid. The menu theme always hyped me. All the music/SFX was great and it still stands as one of my favorite 2D labyrinth shooters.
I don't usually comment before watching a video, but I just realized mvg is apparently of greek origin. I didn't have a clue. Φοβερά βίντεο Δημήτρη. Keep it up.
Oh man, both Ecco the Dolphin and Batman Returns have excellent CD soundtracks! Spencer Nilsen did a ton of the Sega CD's OSTs, and they're great ~ Anyway, so cool that you were given this unique cart and shared this info with us :) Love that it's a literal visitor sticker that fit so well.
Honestly the best and most well thought out explanation of a cartridge. Unlike any other TH-camrs who were just looking for views this one was informative and quick right to the point I loved it thank you so much
Not a real flex. Doesn't seem to hard to find his email address and a lot of game dev's will respond if they are interested in your question. Famously Gabe Newel the head of Valve says he reads every email he gets sent. Your more likely to get a response if you ask a short question of something that the person like to talk about.
My man! You are so intelligent and professesional in everything you do. I am glad that you have a youtube channel and share it with the rest of the world! Happy Holidays!
Happy to see your video today and I could see that it was "Space Wars" from the first moment as I am the reigning World Champion for that game and I plunked a lot of quarters over the years into that machine. Enjoying the show as always and have a Happy Holiday Season.
I remember to rent Zero Tolerance when I was a kid, and I just forgot to get it back to the game rental store. When I finally did it, I had to pay an amount almost as big as the one of a new cartridge itself. 🤦🏻♂️
Hermandshot Those fucking people do not leave you alone. I did it as a joke and I’ve had “Brittany from Scientology” on my ass giving me the L. Ron quote of the day for literally YEARS at this point.
Damn, that 1986 label was weird indeed, I was wondering how heckin' early in the Genesis/Mega Drive development it would have to be to have a date THAT old, guess Sega just didn't make new visitor stickers and kept the (then) 4years old ones when they gave him that.
System 16 was in arcades in 1986. IIRC, the Megadrive began development in 1987, but it wasn't out in Japan until October of 1988. Rumors spread slowly in those days, but I found out about it a few months after buying my Sega Master System (IIRC, in 1987, when it had dropped to $79.95). Sad how SEGA didn't overclock the hardware on this machine and use the full 128KB of VRAM as originally designed. Instead, we got the almost unused Z80, which turned out to be almost impossible for developers to access anyway because of its complex bus and memory lock.
That's awesome. It's so cool that there's people like you willing to piece a story together, it's the story of this cart that is actually more interesting than the cart itself.
@@DecibelAlex Indeed, that's pretty much Space War/Computer Space 16-bit complete version, there's not much to it. Although maybe they were planing to make the AI for the 1P game, it's pretty pointless to have such an option in a strictly-2-player game. Then again, it could be just a placeholder for games that would need it in the future.
You missed blurring the senders name and email from the top right corner of your Gmail print out. I won't reproduce it here but it is completely legible. Sorry to tell you because I know it will require a re-upload to fix.
demo code works as intended: you would adjust the gravity, then the ships color, ... and suddenly you have spend a whole day messing with the source, getting familiar with the process of compiling the code, burning it the EPROM...
@@uarelikeme As someone who has been writing software for 15 years: Java is a terrible beginners language, it pushes you right into full OOP with a C-like syntax and it's garbled with lots of weird details to take care of. Not that it's harder than working with Motorola 68000 assembly on the Genesis, but I would say that if you want to learn programming, something like Python or Javascript might be friendlier.
Spencer Nielsen did the music for Spider-Man VS Kingpin on SEGA CD, so that might be the Technopop / Spencer soundtracks connection. Wish we had more info on those OSTs you received. Fascinating video!
This story is in my book, "Playing at the Next Level: A History of American Sega Games." A Sega staffer saw the visitor badge Randall Reiss had placed over the cart and called it "Visitor." Due to Technopop's constant visits to SOA, the name stuck. The sounds came from programmer Burt Sloane imitating different sounds into a simple microphone. Sloane would complete Spider-Man vs. Kingpin on Genesis after Technopop's contract was canceled, and he also did the Sega CD version. Technopop's work developing Visitor was impressive enough that its source code became the first to be distributed to SOA's developers and third party publishers.
Really interesting video and a great little story about the visitor cartridge. Merry Christmas to yourself and your family and I look forward to more videos in the new year
Needless to say, my lunch time will be bland without having such incredible and well presented content, but we all need a rest, like you, so see you soon, happy holidays.
I think you want to say that games should not have stupid DRM that prevents it from preserving/playing offline without cracking it. Whether it is digital or physical. The whole point of dumping is that physical medium will fail someday and then the data will be lost permanently. Dumping allows you to backup and preserve the data digitally.
That was definitely a good laugh. We need that more than we realize, especially now, lolz Happy Yule; I'll be archiving both of these builds because it's important to not let the smaller details just vanish, and whatever the Corpo-Rats think can fight me.
@@wiltisdabest have you played it recently... and played it as intended not using emulation features like quick saving and stuff? the game is utter garbage. a lot of people look at old games like this through rose tinted glasses because of course if you played them as a child and you only had a handful of games, these games often get remembered very fondly. and I don't buy that "it was great for it's time" crap either. a game is either good or it isn't, and if it "was good at the time" that only means that back then we didn't know any better. SMB1 is still a good game, good controls, borderline genius gamedesign from the very first 10 seconds of the game and good art. SMB2 (Lost Levels) on the other hand is dogshit and it always was dogshit (which is the actual reason it wasn't released in the west btw. that "it was too hard for the west" is bullshit. Nintendo America said it didn't meet their quality standards) Ecco is a game with terrible Leveldesign that is purposefully confusing and annoying because the lead developer didn't want people to rent it and play through it in a couple of days, so he made it as annoying as possible to find your way through. obstacles were placed in a way that was bas annoying as possible it is bad, it was always bad and no sane person would play it nowadays, especially not as it was intended. the only people still playing it are speedrunners (but even there it is very niche) but they play anything lol
Don't know if this is intended, but at 0:30 you can still Read Mr John's e-mail. Just pointing that out, since I see you censored some data, and maybe you missed that one... Or maybe it's fine like that!
Thank you for everything that you're doing for the retrogaming scene!! Happy Holidays to you and your family, MVG! Looking forward to more of your amaing videos in 2021! Hope it'll be a better year for gaming!
Well done to everyone involved. It's always great to see a piece of history saved.
But is it anime?
I shouted "it" when I read your comment
@@RocketboyX asking the right question mate.
Kenny 📼
But does it have Pony Metal Ugaim for MSX ?
I love how Randall just slapped the sticker on the cartridge on a whim, never imagining how much he'd confuse you decades later
This cart was originally shared on Reddit and I, along with a bunch of other people, recommended he reach out to you. Glad he actually did because it was fun to learn about the story behind this cart.
Y'all are a few unsung heroes.
Ayy
I love this community
thank god it was not another safe
Thank you, you guys are doing god’s work.
If you ever have anything retro-game related questions or mystery tech, MVG is your guy for sure.
Hard4Games and LuigiBlood are cool as well
@Apple Stack Exchange bites. Unless you like to be rabbit holed with SEARCH. Yup, very helpful. It's wall after wall.
@Apple just what I said. It's nearly useless in regards to problem solving/help. It's over moderated. In the last decade I've only had 1 or 2 questions/comments help me with an issue I was having. Too strict and too many elitists.
@Apple Yea it's unfortunate. I've had a tiff with other forums that behaved the same way. They're not around anymore. The elitists don't want to be "bothered" by basic questions so they don't answer them, but it's a common question so people are asking all the time. That RTFM or google it mentality is causing most of their problems. If people would just let those questions be asked then answer them it would stop people from asking because they could see them via a search result. It's a like a paradox or something that works to their and everyone else's detriment. I believe it comes from pre internet days where when someone had to solve a problem there was no easy way to figure it out other than reading documentation and learning how to resolve the issue yourself. But that time is gone and there is no need to artificially hold someone back from progress with that mindset. Just my two cents. And not nagging at you or anything, just sharing my thoughts/experiences. Happy Holidays!
I'd probably contact Ben Heck first, at least as far as hardware is concerned.
The torn apart piece of tape most likely says "upper left"
Yeah, l'm pretty sure you're right tbh
How'd you guess that :)
It could also be "lower left" though
@@CruseCtrl middle left
@@CruseCtrl that doesn't make much sense
Love how MVG is pretty much a historian documenting and preserving these type of rare and unusual carts/games.
If anybody is interested in his video game collection, checkout his video titled "2019 HUGE Game Room Tour". He definitely a bit of an archivist for the games he's interested in.
I particularly like how he dives deep into the technical details... not many TH-camrs doing this.
We already lost Ace Combat Infinity when BAMCO shut the servers off. Nobody can run a PS3 game again already 😢😭😢😢😢
Love how he's wrong a lot of the time and people just eat it up like it's the word handed down by god himself.
I always hope other Sega Channel carts get found so we could see some of the other menus and games that are presumed lost to time, like Garfield The Lost Levels, and a Chess game that I have not seen since then (Chessmaster, I think).
When someone says:"I won't dump the files because it's illegal" it's just an excuse so the item doesn't lose value, making It less collectable
? if someone says that then they don't know how collectors think.
Thank you Captain obvious
But nobody's more litigious than decades-old abandoned companies looking after their abandonware!
Marble Madness 2 and Vertexer comes to mind.
@Default Man If it's truly one-of-a-kind or even so rare that a dump doesn't already exist, then it won't matter if you make a dump or not because the people who will pay top dollar for the physical item will not be satisfied by a rom dump.
Man this is interesting, especially how the founder of Technopop remembered exactly that he stuck the VISITOR sticker on the cart, and that the code was the origin for probably hundreds of Genesis games
I think he was more like, "Oh I forgot about that..."
I recognize that CD! I wrote Spencer Nilsen fan mail once about how much I liked the US Sonic CD soundtrack and he sent me one of those signed.
Awesome! 😊
That's definitely a dev board, when I worked as a QA tester at SOA, we used those all the time.
When did you work at SOA Test I worked across the street at CS.
Wondering how much this could go at a collectors auction since it's basically one of a kind.
What's interesting is that it looks like one of the later dev boards (cartridge shell sized, possibly with NVRAM for saves) and not one of the early 90's dev boards (which were MUCH larger with dip switches to set the addressing for different sized EPROMs and CR2032 battery backed SRAM). If Randall's anecdote about visiting SOA HQ in the early 90s is correct then it's quite possible there may be more physical copies of 'Ship' kicking around than this single one. The fact that 'Ship' was a used as a tech demo and two different binaries (one compiled from source) have been found also supports this theory. It's amazing how all the elements of this mystery cartridge saga came together to give a coherent (and historically significant) answer.
This reminds me of that story on how the second copy of the Declaration of Independence was found by accident inside an old portrait. You must feel honored to have had an important piece of video game history essentially handed to you on a silver platter.
Oooh, this kind of stuff is awesome. Also honestly dumping and sharing these is the right thing to do imo, especially with many rare carts ending up in private collections and never seen again.
yea can't wait for the reproduction cartridge to hit AliExpress
Damn some those collectors and archivists.
Selfish Motherf--kers.
@@blakryptonite1 lmao, they probably would spell "visitor" wrong
@@blakryptonite1 I think there are cartridges that allow you to store multiple roms and play on the original hardware. Just get a rom and you are set.
@@ezio934 Its called a FlashCart, in the Genesis's case, you need a "Mega Everdrive" for that.
This looks to be an attempt at an implementation of "spacewar!" Spacewar! Was one of the first video games first written in like 1962. It was also one of the first cabinet video games. It was always a two-player game originally, and it was just a dog fight between two ships that took place in the gravity well. The arcade implementation let you adjust the direction and strength of the gravity of the central star, and the point of the game was to blow up the other player.
Dude, this was incredible. It's getting harder and harder to come across obscure bits of gaming history from this era and this is about as unique a story was you can get. Great job!
MVG starting to look like a mellowed out Kratos.
Great video, what a neat find!
I remember getting Zero Tolerance as a kid. The menu theme always hyped me. All the music/SFX was great and it still stands as one of my favorite 2D labyrinth shooters.
Love the more historical content on MVG. This is the kinda stuff I enjoy watching as it's a trip back to the past and also educational.
I don't usually comment before watching a video, but I just realized mvg is apparently of greek origin. I didn't have a clue.
Φοβερά βίντεο Δημήτρη. Keep it up.
I can't wait to get my Moderna Vintage Gamer vaccine
This made me lol
How the Coronavirus was hacked. (Mistakes were made)
*MVG music starts playing*
Fun fact about the vaccine. As soon as you get it, you know everything about retro gaming.
"Bye for now."
Finding a mysterious genesis cart labeled "visitor" sounds like the beginning of a creepypasta
Yeah, actually.
Get some geocities vibes in ya
Or a SCP story
It allows you to visit the genesis dimension
I bet ya one exists
Oh man, both Ecco the Dolphin and Batman Returns have excellent CD soundtracks! Spencer Nilsen did a ton of the Sega CD's OSTs, and they're great ~
Anyway, so cool that you were given this unique cart and shared this info with us :) Love that it's a literal visitor sticker that fit so well.
Honestly the best and most well thought out explanation of a cartridge. Unlike any other TH-camrs who were just looking for views this one was informative and quick right to the point I loved it thank you so much
"I still had some questions... So I reached out to Randel Reiss."
Modern Flex Gamer lol
Not a real flex. Doesn't seem to hard to find his email address and a lot of game dev's will respond if they are interested in your question. Famously Gabe Newel the head of Valve says he reads every email he gets sent. Your more likely to get a response if you ask a short question of something that the person like to talk about.
Happy Holidays MVG! What a little treasure there! Thanks for all your hard work throughout the year.
"The first thing I'm going to do is open it up" Really? First thing I would have done was bang it into a Megadrive and fire it up
Right, because powering up a decades-old prototype board without inspecting it for damage and aging first is a brilliant idea.
@@konayasai its a Megadrive game ffs not an unexploded bomb. Do you wear ppe the first time fire up a new toaster?
@@ZoltarSoulFunk A _new_ toaster? No.
@@konayasai only took you 3 weeks to come back with that retort. Razor sharp 👏👏👏
@@ZoltarSoulFunk it's better to inspect it first just so the data on it doesn't get lost or to see if it isn't damaged
Very exciting you were able to fully solve this mystery!
You literally just made history my guy
Nice. I always love this sort of community collaboration. Maybe one day this will help us find the fabled Sonic 1 Beta cart.
2021 is off to a great start!
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RIP John’s inbox. Well at least you censored your email details..
Eh.many professionals have an email and that's always the best way to get a hold of someone for business
@@Matanumi I don't think you understand. He didn't cover the guys email address who sent him the cartridge.
I'm assuming John wanted his e-mail address made public, or at the very least on record, too obvious for a mistake (twice on the same page).
@@Matanumi How come you don't see an e-mail address?
My man! You are so intelligent and professesional in everything you do. I am glad that you have a youtube channel and share it with the rest of the world! Happy Holidays!
Might as well load this onto my EverDrive and crash into the Sun a couple times. :)
Fun times 👍
Great video, always love lost pieces of history resurfacing like this. Enjoy your winter break, MVG!
Quite compelling! Love these type of videos!
Happy to see your video today and I could see that it was "Space Wars" from the first moment as I am the reigning World Champion for that game and I plunked a lot of quarters over the years into that machine. Enjoying the show as always and have a Happy Holiday Season.
I remember to rent Zero Tolerance when I was a kid, and I just forgot to get it back to the game rental store. When I finally did it, I had to pay an amount almost as big as the one of a new cartridge itself. 🤦🏻♂️
Wow! Neat background info for sure, from such an innocuous-looking cart. Amazing work as always.
Expectation: Zero Tolerancy Beyond
Reality: Ship
**sad face noises**
It might not be Zero Tolerance Beyond, but its still a hell of a story.
@@glori0usoce Sure it is! Cheers!
I legit just heard the family feud "womp womp wuh wommpp"
Excellent video! Loved it! Thank you for sharing! Have a nice holiday season! Love from Athens, Greece!
Man this whole time I thought your first name was Modern
I was so confused about who the F is Dimitris!?
Imagine being in a family where your last name is "Gamer"
he is Dimitris not from Hardware Canucks
Hey MVG, thanks for a great year of content. I learned more from your retrospective videos than I did from my computer science classes.
Merry Christmas, sir. Have a good one and a prosperous new year.
Happy holidays, MVG!!! See you next year!
MVG takes a massive Game Dump when he wakes in the Morning
This is great. Excellent video as usual, MVG.
@MVG, you can see John's Email address at 0:29, I think you nudged the paper just before cutting to this shot, but didn't readjust the blur.
Its fine johns seen the video and he's good with it
John is now subscribed to cat facts.
Hermandshot Those fucking people do not leave you alone. I did it as a joke and I’ve had “Brittany from Scientology” on my ass giving me the L. Ron quote of the day for literally YEARS at this point.
Seriously, Who "dislikes" a video like this.... Great Stuff as Always!
Damn, that 1986 label was weird indeed, I was wondering how heckin' early in the Genesis/Mega Drive development it would have to be to have a date THAT old, guess Sega just didn't make new visitor stickers and kept the (then) 4years old ones when they gave him that.
System 16 was in arcades in 1986. IIRC, the Megadrive began development in 1987, but it wasn't out in Japan until October of 1988. Rumors spread slowly in those days, but I found out about it a few months after buying my Sega Master System (IIRC, in 1987, when it had dropped to $79.95). Sad how SEGA didn't overclock the hardware on this machine and use the full 128KB of VRAM as originally designed. Instead, we got the almost unused Z80, which turned out to be almost impossible for developers to access anyway because of its complex bus and memory lock.
Always nice to see a bit of history, amazing that was the template for loads of games, can see it in the title menu everywhere!
Kratos bringing us the cool retro stuff again!
Interesting story and finding! Cool that you were able to track down the game and unveil the mystery
Happy holidays y'all
Did you see about the Japanese McDonald's DS game getting dumped
That's awesome. It's so cool that there's people like you willing to piece a story together, it's the story of this cart that is actually more interesting than the cart itself.
3:04 it says upper left 😂
Almost without a doubt.
hmmm... Ship 1 Upper Right... Ship 0 (left clearly visible)... uh... code?
Thanks for some of the best content during these terrible times. Enjoy the holidays!
I remember playing Zero Tolerance when i was a kid in 97
I remember calling it Zero Carrots for some reason
I loved that game , Got nostalgic when saw it
I watched with headphones - that panning synth lead had me looking for a fly buzzing around my head
I'm surprised that they didn't want to finish the game . It looks sounds fun
that is the finished product. it's a game example, a base for other developers to work on
@@DecibelAlex Indeed, that's pretty much Space War/Computer Space 16-bit complete version, there's not much to it. Although maybe they were planing to make the AI for the 1P game, it's pretty pointless to have such an option in a strictly-2-player game. Then again, it could be just a placeholder for games that would need it in the future.
Basically asteroids with gravity. They probably thought it was a bit dated for a Genesis game.
Glad I told the dude on Reddit to reach out to you. This was all really exciting! :D Love your content, MVG!
That's not a clone of Asteroids, it is a proto-clone of Space War!
Definitely, how was this not known in the video :facepalm:
@@pigpenpete He corrected it later.
Man, thanks for the great content. You know so much about gaming, every video has been an education for me.
MVG is one of a kind.
You're one of a kind : )
He honestly is. I think he's my favorite content creator on TH-cam. Everyone of his videos is original and he does a ton of research on his topics.
Thank you for giving the Retro Gaming community an early Christmas gift! :-D Merry Christmas mate!
Oh dude, THAT Ecco soundtrack was a gift itself, it is absolutely wonderful to listen to.
Merry Christmas, and Happy holidays to you and yours, MVG! See you next year!
May I ask where u got that awesome SNK tshirt u was wearing for the show? I gatta have one!
Cracking bit of history.
Happy holidays to you and your family enjoy your time together and see you in the new year.
You missed blurring the senders name and email from the top right corner of your Gmail print out. I won't reproduce it here but it is completely legible. Sorry to tell you because I know it will require a re-upload to fix.
MVG - *THANK YOU* for the attribution and link, classy and highly appreciated!!
This is honestly badass; however, this game would definitely piss me off. The gravity of the sun looks too OP
demo code works as intended: you would adjust the gravity, then the ships color, ... and suddenly you have spend a whole day messing with the source, getting familiar with the process of compiling the code, burning it the EPROM...
@@sarowie I wish i was that smart brother to do it. Tried to teach myself Java and learned that it isn't my thing. You did bring up a great point tho.
@@uarelikeme As someone who has been writing software for 15 years: Java is a terrible beginners language, it pushes you right into full OOP with a C-like syntax and it's garbled with lots of weird details to take care of. Not that it's harder than working with Motorola 68000 assembly on the Genesis, but I would say that if you want to learn programming, something like Python or Javascript might be friendlier.
@@xerzy Even Ruby would be friendlier, and yes I would know.
@@xerzy Thank you for the advice.. I may pursue coding again one day!
That's a fantastic piece of video game history. I can't get enough of content like this. Keep up the great work!
Looks like it should say "ship 0 upper left" to me.
Probably chip 0
Great video and story. It is great to see new random bits of SEGA Genesis history.
Every cartridge has a story. But a buried treasure, priceless.
Enjoy your break with your family. Look forward to your new videos in 2021! Take care! :)
exact audio copy should be all you need to dump these soundtrack discs to FLAC
Spencer Nielsen did the music for Spider-Man VS Kingpin on SEGA CD, so that might be the Technopop / Spencer soundtracks connection. Wish we had more info on those OSTs you received. Fascinating video!
I'm actively working on that now. More to come
It's not an Asteroid clone, it's a Spacewar clone!
@lass kinn Space War is much older than PCs and DOS - it was written for the PDP-1
Spacewar? I have like 15 copies of that on Steam! Doesn't everyone?
Man, I love your content. You’re a treasure to video game history, preservation and general deeper insight.😍
So cool! The internet really is amazing, it would've taken so long to find out the history of this in say the 90s
Another excellent find. Best wishes for a great holiday MVG!
3:02 "ship 0 upper left"
Or maybe "ship 0 lower left"
This story is in my book, "Playing at the Next Level: A History of American Sega Games." A Sega staffer saw the visitor badge Randall Reiss had placed over the cart and called it "Visitor." Due to Technopop's constant visits to SOA, the name stuck. The sounds came from programmer Burt Sloane imitating different sounds into a simple microphone. Sloane would complete Spider-Man vs. Kingpin on Genesis after Technopop's contract was canceled, and he also did the Sega CD version. Technopop's work developing Visitor was impressive enough that its source code became the first to be distributed to SOA's developers and third party publishers.
mistakes are made, hype for january the forth.
Have a wonderful holiday MVG. Always love your videos.
Love the mysterious stuff.
Really interesting video and a great little story about the visitor cartridge.
Merry Christmas to yourself and your family and I look forward to more videos in the new year
thank you for dumping it and not hoarding it
Needless to say, my lunch time will be bland without having such incredible and well presented content, but we all need a rest, like you, so see you soon, happy holidays.
This is why we shall always have physical mediums !
I think you want to say that games should not have stupid DRM that prevents it from preserving/playing offline without cracking it. Whether it is digital or physical.
The whole point of dumping is that physical medium will fail someday and then the data will be lost permanently. Dumping allows you to backup and preserve the data digitally.
That was definitely a good laugh. We need that more than we realize, especially now, lolz
Happy Yule; I'll be archiving both of these builds because it's important to not let the smaller details just vanish, and whatever the Corpo-Rats think can fight me.
ECCO ... one of the best MD games ever made by us hungarians... :)
I never knew it was made by my people. I'm an ethnic Hungarian born in Canada.
it's god awful... it wouldn't even be on a list with "good" Mega Drive games let alone a list of the best games
@@kevboard I bet you never ever play it once. Both episodes have beautiful graphic and nice gameplay with awesome music.
@@kevboard I mean it was a staple of the Sega genesis/megadrive. It's good, maybe not great.
@@wiltisdabest have you played it recently... and played it as intended not using emulation features like quick saving and stuff?
the game is utter garbage. a lot of people look at old games like this through rose tinted glasses because of course if you played them as a child and you only had a handful of games, these games often get remembered very fondly.
and I don't buy that "it was great for it's time" crap either. a game is either good or it isn't, and if it "was good at the time" that only means that back then we didn't know any better.
SMB1 is still a good game, good controls, borderline genius gamedesign from the very first 10 seconds of the game and good art.
SMB2 (Lost Levels) on the other hand is dogshit and it always was dogshit (which is the actual reason it wasn't released in the west btw. that "it was too hard for the west" is bullshit. Nintendo America said it didn't meet their quality standards)
Ecco is a game with terrible Leveldesign that is purposefully confusing and annoying because the lead developer didn't want people to rent it and play through it in a couple of days, so he made it as annoying as possible to find your way through.
obstacles were placed in a way that was bas annoying as possible
it is bad, it was always bad and no sane person would play it nowadays, especially not as it was intended.
the only people still playing it are speedrunners (but even there it is very niche) but they play anything lol
Enjoy your break ModernVintageGamer. Well deserved. Happy holidays!
read the title as "I dumped on a one of a kind..."
I’m about to dump a one of a kind klinker in my toilet to start my week off strong
Two girls, one cart.
@@6581punk *oh God*
@Mr Heck avgn?
I dumped a one of a kind Mystery last night, Couldn't tell what had gone through me.
Love your videos so much! Keep it up!
the sun pulls the bullets as well, pretty cool.
So satisfying when internet mysteries get posed, sorted and solved, all in a single video. Awesome work!
Don't know if this is intended, but at 0:30 you can still Read Mr John's e-mail. Just pointing that out, since I see you censored some data, and maybe you missed that one... Or maybe it's fine like that!
Thank you for everything that you're doing for the retrogaming scene!! Happy Holidays to you and your family, MVG! Looking forward to more of your amaing videos in 2021! Hope it'll be a better year for gaming!
"cold"? It looks like it said "Upper Left"
Awesome! I appreciate what you're doing for the culture! Looking forward to more videos in the the new year!