2 Uber Drivers: Same Requests DIFFERENT PAY! You Won't Believe This!
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Uber is losing drivers because they are calling me texting me to get back on the road
Electric vehicles get paid more...there's your answer guys
They also keep all of the reservation fee none of it goes to drivers. I get offered with Lyft a $2 ride at 4 a.m., Lyft is not getting out at 4am, not to mention because of these fees the customer is less likely to tip their drivers.
Sergio Uber is killing us here in Florida paying $32 bucks for 60 miles
Coming from someone who was renting from Uber and lyft ... I've been saying this for months ... they are paying people who are renting significantly less than owners. It's like they want to keep you in this vicious cycle where you have no choice but to keep renting
lmao
16% of lyft's income is from renting cars!
Specifically with promotions. I noticed this. The rent was 400 a week and I would never get promotions better than an "extra 2.50 per ride"
I thought this was a known/old thing for Lyft at least. Since I started driving in 2017, Chicago, then Pittsburgh, the pay rate for renters has always been less than someone that owns their vehicle.
@jarrodbrush Have a screenshot of an old Lyft rate card (Phila. PA region) from 2019 showing a lower rate paid for those renting, w Express Drive, vs those using their own car. Last I checked though the current rate card doesn't show a difference. Doesn't mean there's no longer a diff rate paid however to renters vs owners.
This may be your best work ever. Get the lawyers. They need to be sued!!!
They have the best lawyers come to me in five years and it’ll still be the same I guarantee it
They are in court in almost every state in the nation already and in federal court and Supreme Court etc.
@@blackegz61 absolutely they have more money than the court they buy everybody
Good luck with suing a billion dollar company 🤪🤪
@@blackegz61 it don't take luck, it takes driver unity & the backing of riders. These companies stealing from both.
I am thoroughly disappointed with this situation. Thank you for sharing this with us. They can't deny this. I hope they are held accountable for their actions and manipulation of the drivers. Discrimination case
They got caught In Australian.
Forced to pay 10 million via the court system
If that’s truly “price fixing” and illegal (no doubt) then the next step needs to be a class action lawsuit
Good luck with that one Uber has all the money
@@AppRides If they're engaging in illegal activity then the GOVT will be the party that sues and possibly prosecutes. The govt has unlimited funds and Uber doesn't.
It's not price fixing. Price fixing is an agreement among competitors to raise, fix, or otherwise maintain the price at which their goods or services are sold.
The most dangerous thing is that they take double the price from the passenger.. For example, Uber gave me $10 as a driver, and I got $24 from the passenger.
If you don’t screenshot upfront fares they don’t pay you what they say and they know if your screenshooting the up front fares FYI.🤡👈🏻
Class action Law Suit time!!!
This is why I accept certain rides, but end up with a different ride. They are offering it to multiples and tricking us into accepting a ride we otherwise wouldn't take. It is so disappointing that after 7 years as a driver, they have zero respect for us.
Just like any other job, your just a number.
Uber @ $1.00 discrepancy per ride owes me a lot of money I've completed 14,869 rides
Can someone show me one billion-dollar corporation in this country that actually respects their workers? There isn't one here. The only way you get respect from a large billion-dollar corporation is when workers unite and fight for that respect. Respect is never just given and it's not your right for them to have to give you that respect automatically. Respect can only be given to the people who earn it and most importantly fight for it. You have to be continuously fighting for it because the moment you stop fighting, they will immediately take advantage of that and create new rules that allow them to not have to ever show you any respect again. A person who takes on a large corporation by themselves has very little chance of beating that corporation. Your time with that company will be cut short for sure. Only when all the workers unite together to fight a company do they have the power to demand a fair wage and to be treated with the respect they deserve. The company will fight back dirty and they will never give up which is why all workers must unionize and never stop fighting for their entire careers. Because the moment they start to get comfortable and they let their guard down, they will start to lose what they worked and fought so hard for very quickly. I can't understand why anyone would choose to work for such a shitty company as Lyft is. It's a complete and obvious scam. It's a dead-end job that nobody could ever support themselves doing especially with a family. They don't offer decent healthcare or a pension which means you would have to work there till the day you die. There will never be any retirement day for Lyft drivers being that you will be living paycheck to paycheck for the rest of your life. Not even any paid vacations. It's just work as much as you can destroying your car and you having to also pay for the fuel and you just lose everything if you were to get sick or injured from the job and Lyft doesn't care because they will just replace you with some other chump willing to work under those conditions. Meanwhile, the majority of all the money made is going to a handful of assholes who have never had to do your jobs for even one day. They just nickel and dime you and watch their bank accounts grow while all of their employees are struggling just to survive another day. The only reason that is happening to Lyft employees is because they are agreeing to let them do that to them. Because Lyft employees are the only ones who have the power to change that. There is nobody else going to do that for them. They have the power to unite and to unionize so that they have the power to fight back and stop this company from treating them like this. They just don't seem to want to I guess. They feel that complaining on internet forums and comment sections will help them fight back and win something from this billion-dollar company. They will never win squat because they don't have the strength or the resources to fight back a company this large. This company can break laws and get away with it because they have the money to protect themselves from anything they do wrong. Every now and then an employee will get a win for himself but that is just that company paying that person off because it will be cheaper to do and it won't end up stopping them from continuing to keep doing it. So it's just an incredibly small blip in their wallets that they will make back from their employees by ramping up their corruption against them. The only way to be paid fairly and treated with respect is when everyone who works for Lyft is committed to fighting back and doesn't give them an inch for as long as it takes to break this company. Short of that you are all just whining and complaining to yourselves because you will not be doing anything to improve your and your fellow employees' lives because you have to be able to hurt Lyft in order to get them to treat you fairly and you don't have the power to do this by yourself or in small numbers. You are only hurting yourselves and all future workers in this country by agreeing to work for a company that is treating you like this. You working under these terms is making a handful of people at the top extremely rich and there will be plenty more companies following Lyft's business model eventually making it the norm in this country. The longer you allow this behavior the harder and longer the fight will be to change companies that are doing this to stop it. I spent my entire career fighting and working for a unionized company and I retired at age 52 with my full pay for the rest of my life along with full medical insurance. So you can blame Lyft for doing this to you but really it's entirely your fault for allowing them to do this to you. Because of course these large corporations are going to try to screw it's employees over when their employees are all agreeing to continue letting them. Why wouldn't they? If the employees are stupid enough to keep working under those conditions, they will just laugh themselves all the way to the bank. Meanwhile, the employees here are just trying to fight by themselves for a couple of dollars as if that is going to get them to retirement someday. They are missing the big picture here entirely because the Lyft corporation has the money to pay it's employees fair wages that a family can live with. They just want to keep it all for themselves since nobody who works there is smart enough to know how to get them to pay them those fair wages, they will just keep that money. I was shocked when I heard how much Lyft was paying its employees and thought that they would never find anyone willing to accept that job under those conditions. I know I wouldn't even consider working under those conditions for an hour certainly not a week. But here we are 7 years later and they are still in business getting richer while screwing over its employees royally and it's now becoming the norm in this country. That's the fault of the employees for even accepting that job in the first place. Employees who have been doing this for a long time now are still not trying to unionize and are only hoping things will get better and they will only get worse because people are still signing up to be treated like that. They don't know their worth and they don't know how to fight a large corporation and they will probably just continue to work for this company and they will just find themselves getting poorer and poorer every day they do it. They are obviously not smart enough to figure out that if they want to continue working for this company but get paid fairly and treated with respect that they must unite together to unionize so that they have the power to force Lyft to do that for everyone. Everyone has become very selfish in this country only caring about themselves and never anyone else. They should care about their fellow co-workers because how they are treated will eventually be how you will be treated eventually if not already. That gives you a common goal with them which is why you must unite and organize against this company. You will guarantee lose and change nothing for anyone if you try to do this alone because you don't have any weapon to hurt them with. Only when you have the power to stop this company's flow of money will you have a weapon to fight back with. You must be willing to fight for him as well as yourself because there will come a time when you will need his help. So it matters a lot what happens to your fellow co-workers. Their fight is your fight too. People today don't seem to understand this concept for some reason. It's every man for himself these days and that's why we no longer have a middle class in this country. Because we will lose when we fight alone. What Lyft is doing here is just a drop in the bucket to what they are really doing to you right now and you are only promoting their business model to spread to other companies by continuing to work for them or seriously fighting them back and eventually this will become the norm in this country, so good luck finding a better job even if you quit because you are the people who agreed to it and helped promote it to make this the norm in this country. Go ahead and point your finger at the corporations but really you were the ones to blame for creating this problem. You accepted this job under these conditions and you remained working there without ever seriously trying to fight them back. They are doing what they are supposed to be to be doing which is screw you over as much as you let them screw you. It's your job to fight them back effectively and nobody there is willing to fight for anyone but themselves or they would have formed a union and threatened Lyft that you will strike if they don't pay you a fair wage and treat everyone who works there fairly and equally. You need everyone who works there to monitor this company to make sure that they are sticking to your demands and if they are not you must tell everyone and everyone must fight back till they do follow your demands. Right now you are just letting them do whatever they want to do to you which is the employee's fault, not the company owner's. I won't even use this company, I would rather walk than support a company that would do this to its employees. But now that I can see that the employees are not smart enough to fight back the right way, I might start using them. So keep on putting out these videos that will do nothing to help anyone in a meaningful way. I'll just keep hoping that you guys grow a pair someday but from what I have seen so far, I highly doubt it. Sorry this was so long but it really needed to be said.
@@randwalton456 I could never last that long. I have 800 rides but can't afford to go to work for Uber anymore lol 😆
I've actually seen offers come in at one rate and got lower at ending trip 😢
Excellent work gentlemen. I sincerely appreciate your efforts! This is totally illegal and predatory. Thankyou for uncovering their fraudulent activities!!!
Nothing illegal when you’re in the rideshare company and you push all the buttons and you have all the money. There’s nothing anybody’s gonna do about it. Just look at New York City. They got screwed out of their race call politics. Yeah, call it politics.
Guess what, nothing will be done about it unless they lose drivers
NC mean North Carolina? If so, what part?
The other day I took a ride I regretted taking but I completed it anyway. It was $15 dollars. I decided to do a survey and ask the riders how much they were paying, and they we’re paying $37 Needles to say I was pist off. I didn’t drive the next day because I was pist’ They are really screwing the drivers!!!
Try Florida it’s the worst 18 miles drive to offer u 18 and charges customer $51
CEO of Uber should be in jail
don't ever do trip request filter on uber (destination filter) because Uber will still give you trips that do not go to your destination; furthermore, the AI will now realize you will be more acceptance toward trips to your destination, they will take away better pricing. Try it yourself, you'll see you won't get even $1/mile, but if you take off destination filter, the same trip will give you $1.3/mile or more.
Very good work!! More drivers need to do this! The guys who thought of this and shared with us are HEROS!
Sergio, you wondered how they offered the other brother the ride before the first guy accepted. Uber sends the ride out to multiple drivers as they are available. If no one takes it you see may see a number in red at the bottom of the middle screen, and when it disappears you know someone finally took the ride. One other thing that happens and I need to save to show you is that they tell me that the pick-up time is like 5 minutes and when I select it the pick-up time changes to a longer ride time. I'll make sure and screen shot the screen when I take it and after when I'm on my way.
It happened to me as well.
Every ride
Where's the lawyers to keep Uber & Lyft accountable for their practice?
What law is Uber breaking?
I wish I were getting those $24, $30 rides. Uber sends me nothing but total crap over and over, $3.75, $4.50. And I drive a Kia Telluride. Uber is killing me. After 6 years of loyalty to this evil company, it looks like I'm going to quit driving for them soon. I can't afford to do this any longer, Uber is making sure I make no money. I pray that sometime soon, there will be a huge class action lawsuit against uber/lyft for price fixing and violation of federal labor laws. We are not independent contractors. Uber/lyft control everything. I hope these companies fall hard, including their greedy executives.
I don't hope they fail, I just hope they fix these shady business practices
@@Vt12365 it's all about profits and keeping the investors happy. They aren't going to fix their evil practices anytime soon.
They keep telling me my acceptance rate is going down after all day I have not declined not one right then the next day when I turn on my app the first thing and tells me is that my acceptance rate is going down. Meanwhile, all I get is tips and stars, so what are you talking about?
I do Uber and Lyft,’if you cancel allot or If your tier status changes from platinum to gold you get less request probably less pay it all depends on what your reliability is. And we don’t take that in perspective! I have 5 star with Lyft and 4.7 with Uber. We can be 5 stars but that doesn’t matter anymore it’s what level your at! More benefits. So all that can be a factor.
I gave a guy a ride the other night to a guy who said he worked for Uber on the surge program. I don’t know if he was telling the truth but he seem d legit. He said I shouldn’t be saying this but I’m drunk and he admitted that Uber cut our pay.
Surges disappeared EVERYTIME i get into an area! 1 year driving and I've NEVER gotten a surge over $1...NEVER!
The government doesn't care. Uber steals 120m from drivers tips. The government fines them 30m. Uber gets away with 90m. Hell of a payday. Then the government taxes them on 90m. It's a win win for Uber and the government. The government keeps the 30m. For the drivers. This is only a loosing proposition for the driver. And they don't mind putting dangerous people in your car. It's on you drivers to find different work. Before your car and life takes a shit
@Sergio-SMTMC unfortunately I have been here longer than I want to attempt
But Thanks
I'm curious about how many cherry pickers have been sent to a location that was supposed to be a good number. To find out that the gig was not real. I think they send us a good one to have us waste time and money. Conspiracy theory. They are a greedy company and if they don't get what they want from you they will F with you/us. Like the partner we should have never taken home
Absolutely who cares
How in the WORLD did they think we wouldn’t figure this out and make it public? How did they not think they could get away with this long term
This is absolutely NOT price fixing. I'm also not convinced that it is illegal.
I was on a run for a quest and at the airport waiting in que. I got a request that was too far for me, for 248. The other drivers got the ping after, theirs was 300 for same trip. I think because I was getting close to a big payout- 125 for 50 rides- the algorithm lowers my offer rate
That is exactly what doordash does I believe to keep the hourly rate average
I drive Uber and I have noticed if someone refuses a trip and it comes back up a lot of times it is a higher rate the second or third time because they need someone to take it I always wait for 2 or 3rd offers for cheap runs!
@@richangel74 I can verify on another gig app, if someone does not accept the job offer, the pay per hour can go up many dollars up to the hour before the job starts if they cannot fill the position from the recruiting dispatch office of other gig agencies
I've decided to stop taking rides under $5, even if they equal $1 per mile, to see if anything changes.
1. I haven't noticed as many coming thru under $5.
2. I picked up a regular last night. I always pick her up and drop her off at the same location. Usually, I'm in the general area (couple miles away). Last night, I was closer to her than usual (0.7 miles away) when it came thru at $5.09 vs. approximately $4.68.
I'm going to keep doing this. Interesting stuff.
My car was totaled in an accident as a delivery driver. I got a replacement and logged back on to start driving again. I was instructed to do a background check, then when I tried registering my newer 2016 vehicle, I was told that the vehicle wasn't eligible but an ad keep popping up inviting me to rent a vehicle for Ubers use. Things have been at deadlock since.
That double or multiple offer to different drivers can be the explanation on thet bug message we receive when trip is accepted but is not there anymore. If I remember correctly it says "something went wrong" and trip is pulled from you.
That may be a FAKE ride. I’m starting to see more of them.
The nation needs to follow either the T&D Seattle model OR the California model prior to Prop 22 where the driver was able to choose their own multiplier based on base T&D. What Uber is doing in this demonstration may be prohibited by the Sherman Act as price fixing.
Seattle pay rates should be mandated NATIONWIDE.
Sergio is the man. I'm thankful for what you do. Great meeting you at one of the strikes.
I compared my screen to a newbie’s screen. His surge was twice mine and covered four times the area.
I noted that some trip radar requests are priced higher, if I don't pick it up (which I never do) and it comes in as an actual requests with a lower fare offered.
This definitely happens to me in Chicago
Happens in STL too I never accept if they it comes regularly lower than what was originally offered
I had two orders pop up on my phone at the same time with different payouts one was in the trip radar and one was normal and it was the exact same order with a $3 difference. I'm also in Chicago
Chitown here. Are you in driver Facebook groups? Someone showed SS of an airport ride from downtown, 2 pickups same distance and time, like 10$ difference
I was just thinking about if other drivers get offered the same prices for the ride the other day and was going to ask you guys. Thanks for reading my mind and doing this.
Notice how the times and distances between the identical trips are often slightly different between the 2 phones.
@SergioSMTMC It's clearly not price fixing because that requires the cooperation of 2 or more competitors in an industry. This is all Uber here, so it cannot be price fixing. So then, what law is being broken? If I want to hire a contractor for a job, am I not allowed to make different offers to different contractors for the same job? I think I absolutely can as long as it's not for certain reasons like race, religion, gender, etc.
Concerning "sending to trip radar" while it is still pinging other person. Have you ever selected a ride and the screen says "Matching request" ? I think this is where the algorithm is buying time. I have had it go through "matching", tell me another driver got it and then it has pinged me back with the same ride.
Same experience for me. My guess is the algorithm is floating for higher $ charge. For Uber, not driver.
I have been super quick to the trip radar and wondered how another driver got it. Now I see...they are offering it to everyone prematurely
They probably allow several drivers to accept it and then they give it to the one who they will have to pay the least.
Super informative you guys all give great angles to help combat Uber from screwing you over
Whoever is in charge
Sergio if that's the case, you owning Uber, I'd work for you in a heartbeat. Thank you for the enlightenment
Thank you for doing this. It would be interesting to do similar comparisons on the rider app as well! Especially if they could record the Rider vs Driver pricing as well! Imagine getting the riders involved in the case as well! More and Louder voice!
I really think that this is because if you drive an electric car, you get a promotion bonus. In my market, it’s a dollar, but it might be more in the other markets.
All thanks to #Spark_Techz he was able to help out on this bro he can help you out
They price fix passenger fares too. I am a driver was using the pax app with my gf and we were getting different fare offers for the same locations..
Everything based on algorithm and you profile. Every driver that accept low pay kill own ernings in long run
That explains why when I try to accept one in trip radar it doesn't go thru
I rented for a month my income dropped 40%. Back to driving with my car and I’m right back to normal. They are ripping people off.
How do they afford a rental
I have always felt it. Thanks for proving me right
did they pick different quest goals? did they complete the same amount of trips at this point?
Upfront details and pricing is now self incriminating for uber. If the first pinged driver accepts it that's when trip radar says "another driver accepted this " just because you tap a trip radar doesn't mean you will be chosen they have a few drivers on the hook and they give it to the driver that accepted the least. I'm sure you've seen there was an issue when you have accepted a ride
The tesla owner would get an extra $1 over the hybrid car.
Not sure if that $1 is included in the upfront fare?
I often get a trip radar request. Ignore it. Then I get the same ride as a ping request, usually at a cheaper price.
Yep that's exactly what happens to me. As your driving thru traffic it forces you to concentrate on your phone instead of the crazy traffic ahead of you because uber has turned ride acceptance into a competition amongst their drivers as were navigating thru traffic. Nobody wants to accept an unprofitable ride so we have to scroll thru requests as quickly as possible as we're navigating thru traffic! F'n pure CRAZINESS!!!
Side note: I'm pretty sure car renters get paid less than people who driver their own car.
Car rental is not a good idea financially unless you drive full time...every week you rent.
I get a lot of rides, where I'm getting ready to except the ride and it says that it gave the ride to a closer driver....so that means it was given out to a few drivers.
Its not trip radar.
Its trick radar.
If you get my drift.
The FTC will love this video...is so easy to do a complain on the FTC that is 5 min....
I'd like to see the comparison on Lyft, as well. Their rates are worse than Uber, in Boston.
This is yet another reason why rate cards should be mandated by law for ALL the gig companies. Black box pay systems should be ILLEGAL.
At 12:30. That's the point of trip radar. The app/system already knows you're not accepting rides, so it will automatically start looking for drivers who will. That little eyeball at the top right is probably how many people it's being shown to. Trip radar is Uber's attempt to get someone to take the ride quicker than going from one driver to the next driver to the next driver waiting 5-10 seconds for them to decline or ignore the ride. It appears to me that what happens is the system will offer the ride to the first person on it's list. Then, after whatever length of time of not getting accepted, it will dump it on trip radar to the second, third, fourth, or more on it's list of succession. This is smart on Uber's part in that it won't have to wait for drivers one, two, three, four, etc to decline the ride before number five finally gets it offered to them and they accept it. It cuts down on the time the passenger is waiting for a driver.
If you've ever accepted a ride from trip radar, you'd know that it doesn't give it to you right away. It sometimes takes a second. I've tried to grab a ride from Trip Radar and still been offered a different ride (which I'd usually end up declining) and then it would pop back and give me the trip radar ride a couple seconds later. Although, pretty often, I'd get the message that another driver was already matched.
@Sergio-SMTMC My AR hasn't been above 20% since the start of upfront pricing. And every once in a while, a gem comes through on the Trip Radar. But for the most part, Uber is just throwing them out there to see who's desparate enough to grab one.
#FiveAndDrive
Seems to lean heavily to the Tesla in place of the hybrid Renter. Now that is an issue considering they've got the hybrid renter roped in and he's getting offered less on almost every single offer and clearly profiting less off each acceptance.
That surge discrepancy is straight up unacceptable
Now as of last Monday 5-8-2023..."Scruber" has done away with posting any dollar amounts on the surge map and replaced it with a lighting bolt type icon but still has the color affixed to it. So now, we dont know how much, if any surge is being applied. I look on the earnings/post trip itemized screen, and it only states "Fare", with NO MENTION of surge and at a ridiculously low rate; whereas it use to have a breakdown/line by line of what was what.
These CHEATS need to be locked up.
They are the epidomy of FRAUD.
How do I get in touch with the brilliant fellas that conducted this reporting? I have ALL of these claims WELL documented to the tune of approx 2000 emails to myself of suspect activity via screenshots.
@@garyj6898 Sergio responds all the time. Give him a minute
Remember, last time I checked part of the driver TOS allows you to negotiate fares you don't agree with. I've done this with longer distance Uber X "flat rate" trips which sometimes pay a penny more than the IRS 65.5¢ allowable deduction.
I think flat rate is part of the scam, allowing them to pay less than what the prior rate card was. Uber Pro offers no benefits, so decline all day long untill you get what you need to be profitable.
I think their business model itself is scam.
The contract FORBIDS drivers from charging riders more than the Uber's quoted price. The only "negotiation" the contract allows is for the driver to volunteer to be paid less for a trip.
This happens on Uber eats. If people aren’t accepting the ride, you know the fare goes up right?
I do Uber when I need to pay a quick bill or gas money. I wouldn't recommend doing it as a primary job. very unpredictable.
Remember if you're renting a vehicle you're going to get paid a little less because of the insurance cost
I've been doing uber and lyft for 3 years and it's just not worth it anymore.
One main difference between the Uber rentals and your personal car is Uber and the car company waves the insurance or includes it in the weekly price which would not be included if you were a private customer it would cost you $30 a day for that insurance
Have a screenshot of an old Lyft rate card (Phila. PA region) from 2019 showing a lower rate paid for those renting, w Express Drive, vs those using their own car. Last I checked though the current rate card doesn't show a difference. Doesn't mean there's no longer a diff rate paid however to renters vs owners.
One is rental which contractually makes 17% less to cover the cost of the rental
I don't like that Uber shows what you will make with the Tip amount. Because so many are not paying the tips. Ubereats just not worth the time and effort you have to give, for the pennies it is paying.
Good review and analysis. More UBER drivers need to see this! UBER is RIPPING drivers off.
I am lol. Knowing getting screwed sucks, until I find a diff job. Off the top, u get half the fair. Then 20-25 % to operate car. They take some surge money. Your left with diddly and tired. They want me to drive 80 miles one way to airport for 55 bucks. Charge customer 120. I don't accept those only once I did
I did my own test. I drove my POV for 1 week and I drove a Tesla Rental for 1 week and the pay was night and day. I got paid twice as much driving the Tesla rental than I did with my POV. What I figured was fully electric vehicles get more pay than hybrid or gas vehicles. Possibly electric vehicles are being incentivized because Uber is pushing full electric and Uber is manipulating pay.
some people tip better or higher for Teslas. Or will tip at all for a Telsa. I've seen some videos of a guy renting a Telsa accecpting everything too, not a cherry picker, and some daily and weekly tips were insane.
Hey guys. You are comparing a Tesla which pays $1 more per ride correct? The other driver is a hybrid which doesn’t have the extra dollar incentive.
For each trip maybe that's why it's more I'm not totally sure but I remember seeing that somewhere when they send you a message in your inbox
“If you don’t cuss now..” truth. Now is the time! Cuss, damnit! 😂
Another thing that is crazy to me is how many trips were offered before they were asked if they were still accepting rides. I get pinged two to three times and asked if I'm still accepting rides if I ignore them. Sometimes I don't get pinged but ignote radar amd get asked if I'm still accepting rides.
do you have a high acceptance rate?
I don’t have a trip radar?
@@joshuatinkham3703 Uber is different in every city, trip radar is extremely useless anyways, it's a 1 in a million you get a good trip out of it because it's where rides that were previously rejected by other drivers go. there's usually a good reason why they reject it. almost every single trip radar trip I've accepted had made me regret it despite it seeming very promising. it's also a way for Uber to mask where you will be picking them up and drop them off. all it does is distract you which is dangerous and is always a bad deal at the end of the day
Lol got $18 surge to drive to empty parking alot
I work with someone and yesterday morning we turned on our apps together...I had a 3.50 surge and his showed 7.50 for the same area
The algorithm has learned to discriminate. Wow smh
U can see trip destination and price.
Australia, Brisbane can not see destination address and not show price and even can not see waybill (no price show) until accepted the job and arrived at destination at pick up and then can see the price. And trip radar is not working here properly
Does Uber still offer that 1$ bonus for EV vehicles? Still a shitty difference but tesla would qualify. Maybe i missed something
U have to pick and choose. I’m 7 years doing this. I really don’t drive people anymore. The liability is so much greater with people.
2 phones that’s the way to do this job
Picking and choosing isn't enough. My AR is consistently under 5%. There's nothing a driver can do when virtually every offer sucks.
It's not right, but it could also be that the guy on the left hasn't made any money today, so Uber is trying to incentivize him to take the first trip by offering a little higher payout. While The guy on the right has already hit $120.
Yes uber alway try to pay you more on first trip to take from home first .
There’s been several times where I seen surge pricing be like $19-$22 in an area I’m in (while offline) then I go online it disappears or says a much lower amount. Then I sign off and it goes back to $19-$22 again. Back and forth.
The dollar extra is coming from the ev incentive. They're taking it away in July. I've also been offered the same trip more than once and the 2nd offer is lower than the first.
Doesn’t explain the $12.00 difference
They are both driving Teslas. Stop being an Uber fanboy
@Sergio-SMTMC take this to the FTC
@Sergio-SMTMC yes. That happens to me too. I'll decline the first offer and get it again for a lower price after other drivers reject it. Sometimes i have to use my destination filter or turn off uberx to stop trip radar from flooding me with garbage. Even comfort has been skirting the 1 dollar per mile line. Premier still pays but that's less frequent. Removing the ev incentive in July is also a slap in the face. This is why I'm planning my exit before the summer.
Just driving Uber for a little bit more than a year . And I’m learning from you . Keep up the good work Chris and Sergio ❤
Three years ago I was driving at a football game in Gainesville Florida. I noticed that if the rider was visiting from out of town, Uber padded the ride. Same pickup and drop off points, but always longer if you were not familiar with the area.
Interesting!
@@Therideshareguy notice and look into also. Or you don’t screenshot the upfront fares they offer they know your not screenshoting and they will pay you less. They also do this when your waiting longer for a ride instead of cancelling they say they will pay you an extra 2.65 and if you don’t screenshot it they know and paid me 1.60. They screwed me over 13 bucks when I forgot to screenshot a ride after dropping off at airport and getting a ride from airport for Uber pet. I’m in Tampa Bay. Also they send you rides when your not in the “queue” when people are waiting for airport rides. Everything has changed since Covid. They had lack of drivers. I drove Lux Lyft with my bmw 330i and would make 1800 per week working for 35 per week. I’m telling you it’s turn into a bag of nuts. Check into this.🤡👈🏻
I've been on both ends not only do they pay less for renters but they charge more for rides in low income areas.
All thanks to #Spark_Techz he was able to help out on this bro he can help you out
ANYONE….. that has said or will say, it’s only 1.00$ or 2…. That adds UP QUICKLY!!!!
Wait, the phone on the left had a 5.0. Did this factor in? I have a 5.0. I'd be curious to see if someone with a lower rating than I do and I get the same requests at different prices. I do also notice when I don't accept a trip on trip radar and then it pops up by itself just after, it will give me a lower price on the single request pop up. Really interesting.
Please create a group on facebook so we can unite as driver. We should protest no driving for 3 days!!!!
This really negatively affects the new drivers more than the experienced drivers
The issue with cherry picking in my market is that I’ve been up to 4 hours with out a trip request 😢
it looks like your comparing an all electric veh with a hybrid veh. It would be better if you compared 2 or more internal combustion veh's .
The difference is one accepted the 5 and the other one rejected and uber increased the price.
I just got a ride request that paid $9.10. It would have cost me $8.00 in gas, 50 minutes, and 45 miles. That means I would have made $1.10
This was in Asheville, NC
Why the difference in rates for the same trip? Is it because the difference in rider status? That adds up over time
Did both drivers sign up at the same time with Uber? Drivers who signed up when Uber began have an 80-20 split, drivers that sign up more recently to have a 70-30 split or even 60/40 split
I had the Tesla rental for almost a yr and I realized I wasnt getting my extra dollar me and my buddy would compare prices like this I had a Tesla he had the Highlander and we was getting the same price even if I had a surge and he didn't they still will show the same price smh.. thanks for exposing them
What pisses me off is I'll get a good offer on Trip Radar and before I can even click it, they force it out as a ride ping to me at a lower price. I've seen that multiple times. Like dollars less, not a few cents...
If you are able, please send screen shots when you see this happen to sergio@therideshareguy.com. Thank you!
Trip Radar has very few decent offers. Of the few decent ones I'm offered it seems I'm never fast enough to snag any even when I tap the screen immediately.
I have seen this work as well. And when I complain to Uber and lyft about it. They say that certain people in certain areas are given these opportunities and there may not be any more offers in that area for me. And it's the same with the surging where I would see a $10 surge. And the driver's standing right next to me would get a $20 search. And then another guy would get like a $4 search. All standing right next to each other.
What they forgot to mention is Tesla is all electric and a luxury car and is qualified for the the 1 dollars emission incentive so yeah the price should be different. They should do one with both drivers are driving the same car. Now I know to not get a hybrid vs a Tesla to do rideshare
Why wouldn't you asked those two guys about their driving behaviors; who cherry picks more etc. Maybe the guy that gets the low ball is use to accepting low ball offers. To see if things like ratings are also factor
Right! I believe there is more to the story. Uber is meant for supplemental income not sole income. It's a choice, people who complain are annoying
They’ve been taking a minor portion of my tips which is illegal af in December I earned around 5 k I only took home a lil over 2 k of that.
Maybe cuz the giy who owns a Tesla got a fancy car usually the more luxurious the more pay?? Maybe. Have you made a video comparing vehicles and bikes? Within the same area.. maybe the miles and distance if further they pay more than the one closer?
I remember I use to catch yellow cab 40 dollar for a short trip just like that above and the gas was 1.00 back then. Plus it wasn't even the cab driver own car.. Uber driver are getting it from the front and back.