As a conservative I have never once thought of removing a person from their employment because of their personal beliefs and values other than a politician - and that removal comes at the ballot box.
Nonetheless is does happen, especially to LGBT people in workplaces, including schools. Other instances as well, it's just mostly the pseudo-left in recent times.
Leftist: "We hate every fiber of your existence and want to erase you and your family." Conservative: "I would never do anything to stop you or remove you from a position of power for your beliefs." *Leftist crushes conservative through deceit, administrative power, propaganda and lawfare* Conservative's Tomb Stone Reads: "Can you imagine if the roles were reversed?!"
@@PostmortemVideo Anyone who wears their sexuality on their sleeve while working with children - which is a common "revolutionary sentiment" in the LGBT Left - deserves to be fired. Including if they're priests.
I want to make it clear to anyone who will listen: giving a shield to "oppressed minorities" unconditionally does NOT help good, kind, ethically behaved people in those groups. Those people don't need your moral crusade, because everybody else pretty much loves these people. No, instead it helps unscrupulous liars and psychopaths. Like Mr. Jim says here: he won't use his membership in any minority group as a cudgel against others. We like Mr. Jim. He doesn't need crazy people to abuse strangers on his behalf.
@@troffle It's not even a good summary. A better summary would be something like "Stop helping bad people to hurt everyone else." This "Good Ones" thing seems like selective misinterpretation... which is irritating considering I started by writing "I want to make it clear..." and I thought I had made it clear. Anyway, good people are not rare. Good people are common and normal. We might not notice, though, since they don't get in our way or try to push us around.
Thank you for doing the context bit on this. I think a lot of people see these statements and don't know the flip side, although I think that is changing, at least in the US, due to some changes in the broader culture. I'd also point out within 24 Catalyst showed the real reason by blocking on Twitter anyone who called out the policy and its probable intent.
Well... 2nd and 3rd are still very highly considered editions. I had tons of fun with them back when. There's also multiple "off brand" similar settings where near future cyberpunk meets urban fantasy. Many of these are less expensive, and reskinning to match setting specifics isn't that hard. Frequently people have done that work already.
God I remember the coffee elevator thing... caused me to run screaming from the atheist community given I have nerve issues and sometimes twitch in a way that comes across to some as creepy. At my current job I have been accused by 6 different people of being impaired on the job. I can't risk going to cons anymore due to stuff like this, as it gives the Karens of the world far too strong of ability to cull anyone they don't like for any reason they chose.
Good point about the "come across as creepy" given we have plenty of evidence that "creepy" is usually less about what you do and how others perceive it, as the excellent SNL/Tom Brady sexual harassment training video highlighted. Creepy, "coffee elevator", "male gaze", etc are all ways the most easily offended (or those who play act it to get power) have been given control over society. When the inevitable backlash comes even just being polite will be seen as giving in.
Other than the real life argument around CGL, the comment section should be thicker with battletech fights by this comment alone. Clan Ghost Bear for life.
You can make an argument for Mao, or Castro, not really Stalin - just an authoritarian full stop, but these people don't conform to any leftist philosophy or strand of thought, quite the opposite.
There's "far left", and then there's this weird thing called "Horseshoe Theory" (check the great W oracle) where people that far warp around on this twisted spectrum line and at THOSE extreme-super-duper-far-left end up a lot closer on the grid to the extreme-super-duper-far-right. And seeing as this new esdf-left are big fans of things like exclusion, censoring, banning... welp, that's +1 for Horseshoe Theory.
I'll keep this short. I'm a libertarian and a BattleTech fan. I loved this video and your message here. Yes we can disagree on policy and how we choose to live but that should not prevent us from enjoying entertainment if not together than along side each other.
This whole Candela thing has accidently really pushed me into this less-lazy mindset you are talking about and I already feel better for it. I am watching TH-camrs who I never would have in the past only because I was like, "Hmm...I kind of agree with them on this. I wonder what else I can find that isn't crazy right-wing craziness..." I still think most of their takes are really bad, but I think it is really healthy to at least hear them. On the one hand I am appreciating that most of these people aren't "evil" monsters and on the other hand I am being prompted to think about my positions and to really critically analyze them. Just as you made me really look at my position on censorship - I am still not 100% in line, but I am FAR more understanding of the concept of censorship that is not The Big State, US Constitution 'official/technical' censorship - others have made me think about other positions that just a few weeks ago I was very, VERY lazy about and just took for granted.
This is why gatekeeping is a must. But if catalyst like so many others want to learn the hard way as their revenue drys up hey go for it. You can easily be replaced. I'm here for the games and lore not your political dogma.
Agreed, Battletech is forty years old, and it's longevity is not because of the companies who have owned the license. It's the fans and the community who have kept it alive all this time. Catalyst are not the first stewards of the IP, and they will not be the last.
The catalyst incident appears to be more about an aggressive branding move than a social justice crusade. The corporate sees some of its hard core fans as toxic and perhaps limiting their appeal to the wider public. At least that is the opinion of their marketing manager. Is it grounded in reality? I guess their future bottom line will give us the answer.
I've never seen a brand grow by shitting on the most hard core subset of their customers. And I've seen plenty try. The 'modern audience' they all chase exists only in what passes for a marketing major's mind.
Yea I don't know enough about the details. How "toxic" was the environment to new players? Was it just toxic from the perspective of a woke marketing graduate? @@tickticktickBOOOOM
@@SalsaDoom1840 If you consider someone who says, "Look, I just want giant robots to punch each other, not listen you ramble on for an hour about how your pilots are disabled trans women of color," literally worse than Bad Moustache Man, I guess you could call it toxic.
They fail to realise that now is not a good time to antagonise the consumer base. When angry the printer go brrrr. Especially for older gamers with massive collections, we don't need Catalyst games, they need us to survive. We survived the fall of FASA, the Clicktek dark age, the disappointment of the Battletech pc game (thankfully redeemed by the modding community, love my 3062). We are the cockroaches of gaming.
Thank you for this video. I'm one of those "nasty and horrible" conservatives that would be targeted by many with such a policy, even if I don't do anything against anyone.
I understand the cultural shift that has been going on. However, I will never condone the use of trauma to shut down the exploration of the darker sides of our real world within an artistic medium. That undercuts the whole point of artistic expression. There is a tightrope that artists must walk to get their point or expression across, and every artist will fall off that rope when discovering their method to successfully express themselves in a way that conveys their meaning. Constructive criticism is a great and useful way to hold an artist accountable, but reactionary pearl clutching inevitably leads to entrenchment and a retardation of art in and of itself.
I'm one of the people who stopped buying from Catalyst Labs in 2010 because of this scandal. I was very into 4e and bought everything. I stopped then and haven't since.
The greatest service a company can provide is to deliver good products and services, at fair market prices, to those who wish to purchase. For companies to abandon their customers in favor of campaigning for political ideologies is both a disservice to the customers and folly for the company. Those who cry loudly that all these RL issues must be brought into the game will not purchase goods or services to keep the company in business - they never cared about the game anyway, they just want to force their viewpoint in a fascist manner. Good luck staying in business, CGL. There's too many other places I can get miniatures from for me to be subject to all the name-calling and rudeness. I truly hope you learn a valuable lesson from this, CGL. You could have made a fortune just selling BT merch, but you chose to shit on your customers instead.
Another odd bit of synchronicity: Blaine Pardoe went to my high school and though I don't know him personally may of my original gaming group does. We were both deeply inspired by the same Honors English teacher to pursue a life of reading and deep thinking.
Is there any franchise that I grew up loving that hasn't been taken over by people who despise it, it's creators, and it's fans, and are only interested in how they can use it to push their political agenda onto people who just want to enjoy their hobby in peace? Best I can come up with is Transformers, but I think that's because Michael Bay already wrecked it. Long term, I think a post I saw on Twitter sums up what will happen: ----------- >Walk up to a leftist trying to legalize pedophilia and sex change operations for 3-year-old children. "What is the exact opposite of all this? What do you consider your worst enemy? What is the thing you least want for society?" "Nazis." "Thank you."
I think the bigger driver on this announcement is the code word for "community driven projects" which reads as neither an old school OGL license or any clarity on what these projects will be. If anything it reads as if they're over coding this silly caution in favor of getting free community/fan work locked in to their IP. So the whole "woke" positioning smells to me as an outreach to a specific group of fans they'll try to snag for free unpaid labor from the progressive side by signaling that if they take the leads on these projects they'll get magical progressive clout by making free Battletech stuff about eggs and napoleon flavored ice cream flags, just so long as Catalyst gets all the credit and can potentially swipe any new stuff from the progressive non hires they invite on board. As unpaid labor but not calling it an unpaid internship, that would be too honest. A community driven project is a community driven project and that's what kind of kept Battletech going for a long while past the 90's and Micro$haft's laziness in doing anything with FASA's IP's once they bought them, the fans just did it and that was that. All that virtue signaling smells of GW's IP buggery when they thought they owned the term "space marine" and honest fan works and wisely realized that you keep your trademarks just use ancient Latin labels instead to stop yourself from getting into fights with your own community that built you up in the first place. Honest fans if left alone will keep alive that which they love in tabletop (see: Sarna wiki or Megamek) even if you go right out of business. Trying to own them like they're your interns is a stupid folly, yet so many companies still keep trying to do it. If anything it reminds me of this baffling video about battletech and trans rights : yewtu.be/watch?v=NY72icaEgVI, it was baffling in that it barely contained anybody other than Stackpole that helped create and run Battletech since the 80's and instead was front loaded with 21st century e-celebs and HGL personnel. This vid was sent out right after HGL got cut off from Paradox Entertainment and now they've gotten a massive budget shortfall which means they can't ever do another Battletech strategy game on home computers now since it's success has lead to MS raising the roof of licensing that and Shadowrun. And that video was a bit too on the weird nose for that to just come out, it almost sounded like a bizarre hail mary to try and court trans customers in a bizarre attempt to kept them around with the most out of sync virtue signaling vid there is.
I have never been to a gaming con, so I have no experience with that. SOME gaming youtubers, however... I have followed a bit of a circuitous path politically over the years. Back in the 80s I thought of myself as "conservative" (despite some important views that simply weren't, but, there you go). Years later, over the last several years I've been saying stuff like "I think I'm pretty much a socialist these days", for example. (Or I dunno, maybe socdem is closer to truth. But i really see the class struggle everywhere these days). That all is a big change for me. Back to the point: most gaming youtubers are studiously apolitical: perhaps generally a good idea. But there are a few... One guy, if he didn't have pretty interesting things to say about rpg, I wouldn't listen to him anymore--whenever he revs up about "woke" bs, I go elsewhere. Tedious. It's even possible that I might AGREE with him every once in a while (the broken clock...) but i cant stand it, even so. Anyway, one thing I DON'T see much of on TTRPG TH-cam are people with the courage to pepper their videos with Leftist easter eggs, and this is certainly the very first time I've heard the word "aparatchik" in this context. Lol. 😁✊️ Good on ye! And, my views on the political things you discuss seem fairly in line with what you say. At any rate, good video: this was a sane take on a sticky subject.
What has any of this got to do with my Giant Fighting Robots? I don't tend to pay much attention to these kinds of press releases, it's just socialist media boilerplate.
Basically, don't be surprised if you get banned from official events because some smoothbrain thought running a Clan lance meant you were literally in the KKK.
That sounds bad and all, but as a BattleTech player/collector of 39 years standing there's not much the current custodians of the brand can do to spoil my fun. Me and my friends are pretty much a monoculture all to our selves, we grab minis and PDFs as it suits us and ignore the dross/kids. If CGL were to go tits up tomorrow very little of value would be lost, apart from my massive Mercenaries Kickstarter pledge. Somehow I'd find the will to carry on, just like we did when FASA went tits up etc.@@PostmortemVideo
I'd be amazed if I got banned from an official event. They all happen thousands of miles from where I live. Well, okay, not 'all', but those days are well behind me@@tickticktickBOOOOM
I feel like you dropped the ball a little by not actually making this video about the CGL case which you barely mention instead going on about a lot of other incidents, while I agree on some of your general points, in this case I feel it's kinda important to look at the stuff that has actually happened in this specific circumstance, stuff like the BT subreddit blanket banning _any_ LGBT+ fan content last year which led to a lot of drama and upheaval, so in this case i would say this message is an understandable step to make it clear "We do not stand for that" Yes these rules can be used to deplatform people and stuff, but if there is actual suppression going on on platforms, which there very much was and is, should you _not_ take a stand against it just out of fear that it might rub people the wrong way?
You fail to mention that the BT Reddit moderators have recently did a massive purge (myself included) of people that simply stated that they were tired of seeing pro-trans pro-LGBT messages and stick to the game.
@@PostmortemVideoTotally fair but then shouldn't you rather title the video something more general like "the dangers of over-anti-discriminating" or something rather than explicitly namecalling CGL when the video isn't really about their specific case?
Often I find that people tend to react to statements like CGL's with unnecessary defensive stances. It reminds me far too much of being in a work meeting and they announce a "no punching people in the face policy" going forward. What you get is some of the people doing the punching assuming they mean someone else otherwise they would have come to talk to them directly. And some of the people not doing the face punching getting defensive because they think that they are being personally called out and grouped in with the real face punchers, or get angry because "how dare they call me a face puncher when I am clearly not such a person. They should know better than to accuse ALL of us of face punching", or "what the hell? Now we can't even punch people in the face? What kind of fascist crap is this?" Another issue though is that blanket terms like "liberal" and "conservative" don't really mean what they used to anymore. There's all flavors in each spectrum and, especially in the US, they get really pissed when they're lumped in with the others that they disagree with. But the truth is that it's the far extremes of each party howling the loudest and being generally obnoxious, to the dismay of those more moderate members of that party. Honorable discourse is possible between left and right, just not with the far left and far right. Their opinions are hard-coded as ideology akin to a religion. Once upon a time members of opposing parties could argue but still find common ground. But ever since the Great Calamity (aka Reagan's presidency) the Neocons of the Far Right got organized and took power. Leading to the Far Left start recruiting in response. Meanwhile all the moderate have to live with this shit. It's funny but the show "All in the Family" is actually a great example of how differences in politics used to look like before Reagan.
Umm no. The democrats lost their shit in the 1990s when they lost control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 60+ years. After two generations the left got it in their heads that was their birthright.
It is due to alot of these things that I stopped buying certain games or purchasing from certain companies. I no longer buy WOTC or Hasbro products. I used to like Kobold Press, not anymore. I don't buy Paizo products anymore (even after my long love for Pathfinder 1e). I don't understand why it can't just be "we are gamers who make games" and everyone has to be political about everything. If you don't like they type of product someone is offering, DON'T buy or play that game. Just find something else, you don't have to complain and moan to have them change something you aren't a part of anyways.
Am partway through the Mage Leader video. See, this is why some people want to play Solo Games, o Jim. People _suck_. Wow. What's the term for this phenomenon? Where black is white, up is down? Where an anti-harassment policy is harassment? This isn't Newspeak, so...?
Strictly speaking, purely technically, it's irony. However, they don't intend it to be ironic, so it's more hypocritical - to profess one thing and do the opposite.
As a conservative I have never once thought of removing a person from their employment because of their personal beliefs and values other than a politician - and that removal comes at the ballot box.
Nonetheless is does happen, especially to LGBT people in workplaces, including schools. Other instances as well, it's just mostly the pseudo-left in recent times.
Leftist: "We hate every fiber of your existence and want to erase you and your family."
Conservative: "I would never do anything to stop you or remove you from a position of power for your beliefs."
*Leftist crushes conservative through deceit, administrative power, propaganda and lawfare*
Conservative's Tomb Stone Reads: "Can you imagine if the roles were reversed?!"
Japan had perfect censorship during WWII and still lost the war.
@@PostmortemVideo lol in 2000s.. lol doubtful.
@@PostmortemVideo Anyone who wears their sexuality on their sleeve while working with children - which is a common "revolutionary sentiment" in the LGBT Left - deserves to be fired. Including if they're priests.
I want to make it clear to anyone who will listen: giving a shield to "oppressed minorities" unconditionally does NOT help good, kind, ethically behaved people in those groups. Those people don't need your moral crusade, because everybody else pretty much loves these people. No, instead it helps unscrupulous liars and psychopaths.
Like Mr. Jim says here: he won't use his membership in any minority group as a cudgel against others. We like Mr. Jim. He doesn't need crazy people to abuse strangers on his behalf.
Summarized as "the Good Ones don't need help".
@@theprecipiceofreason why would you capitalize Good Ones?
@@EnwardSnowman... rare things tend to need a special denotation?
@@troffle It's not even a good summary. A better summary would be something like "Stop helping bad people to hurt everyone else."
This "Good Ones" thing seems like selective misinterpretation... which is irritating considering I started by writing "I want to make it clear..." and I thought I had made it clear.
Anyway, good people are not rare. Good people are common and normal. We might not notice, though, since they don't get in our way or try to push us around.
"were unlikely to ever see female space marines" oh my sweet summer child......
Thank you for doing the context bit on this. I think a lot of people see these statements and don't know the flip side, although I think that is changing, at least in the US, due to some changes in the broader culture.
I'd also point out within 24 Catalyst showed the real reason by blocking on Twitter anyone who called out the policy and its probable intent.
Hell, they're blocking anyone who tries to get clarification on what the rules actually mean in practice.
Now what...
I was just getting into Shadowrun Sixth World.
Well... 2nd and 3rd are still very highly considered editions. I had tons of fun with them back when. There's also multiple "off brand" similar settings where near future cyberpunk meets urban fantasy. Many of these are less expensive, and reskinning to match setting specifics isn't that hard. Frequently people have done that work already.
God I remember the coffee elevator thing... caused me to run screaming from the atheist community given I have nerve issues and sometimes twitch in a way that comes across to some as creepy. At my current job I have been accused by 6 different people of being impaired on the job.
I can't risk going to cons anymore due to stuff like this, as it gives the Karens of the world far too strong of ability to cull anyone they don't like for any reason they chose.
Good point about the "come across as creepy" given we have plenty of evidence that "creepy" is usually less about what you do and how others perceive it, as the excellent SNL/Tom Brady sexual harassment training video highlighted.
Creepy, "coffee elevator", "male gaze", etc are all ways the most easily offended (or those who play act it to get power) have been given control over society. When the inevitable backlash comes even just being polite will be seen as giving in.
There is a non-woke RPG convention for you... VENGER CON III in Madison, WI this July.
Thanks Jim, you always challenge my thinking
Love it
Glad to hear it
I hate all the Inner Sphere, I am a Clanner and Superior to all
Other than the real life argument around CGL, the comment section should be thicker with battletech fights by this comment alone. Clan Ghost Bear for life.
You Care Bears need to get with it, everyone knows the Hell's Horses will clean your holotank out. @@warpsmith8698
As a Jade Falcon myself, I say seyla trothkin!
Harassment policy like the crucible I saw goody proctor communing with the devil
"A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time."
@@tickticktickBOOOOM By the Emperor's will
Grim Jim slowly realizing he WAS far left…20 years ago.
To the point where I don't consider them to be really left any more.
The middle is gigantic at this point.
You can make an argument for Mao, or Castro, not really Stalin - just an authoritarian full stop, but these people don't conform to any leftist philosophy or strand of thought, quite the opposite.
There's "far left", and then there's this weird thing called "Horseshoe Theory" (check the great W oracle) where people that far warp around on this twisted spectrum line and at THOSE extreme-super-duper-far-left end up a lot closer on the grid to the extreme-super-duper-far-right.
And seeing as this new esdf-left are big fans of things like exclusion, censoring, banning... welp, that's +1 for Horseshoe Theory.
Good to see you cover this mate.
Thanks for listening
CGL mean their product is for everyone as long as they don;t mind being force fed an agenda. All we want is a fun game of fighting mechs.
Exactly.
are they upset about the post or some of the DM's in the post and something that happened at a game? Im still trying to get to the bottem of this
Elevatorgate...that takes Us back, simpler times.
Donglegate was my favorite.
I'll keep this short.
I'm a libertarian and a BattleTech fan.
I loved this video and your message here.
Yes we can disagree on policy and how we choose to live but that should not prevent us from enjoying entertainment if not together than along side each other.
When is the first Grim Convention
Hah, we used to call my birthday get-togethers Grimcon.
Everyone... with lots of money
Everyone... that fits buzzwords and market speak
Everyone... that buys into bourgie materialist "progressivism."
This whole Candela thing has accidently really pushed me into this less-lazy mindset you are talking about and I already feel better for it. I am watching TH-camrs who I never would have in the past only because I was like, "Hmm...I kind of agree with them on this. I wonder what else I can find that isn't crazy right-wing craziness..." I still think most of their takes are really bad, but I think it is really healthy to at least hear them. On the one hand I am appreciating that most of these people aren't "evil" monsters and on the other hand I am being prompted to think about my positions and to really critically analyze them. Just as you made me really look at my position on censorship - I am still not 100% in line, but I am FAR more understanding of the concept of censorship that is not The Big State, US Constitution 'official/technical' censorship - others have made me think about other positions that just a few weeks ago I was very, VERY lazy about and just took for granted.
Bit late but regarding W40K, it looks like female custodes are incoming but as always wait till the minis are done.
This is why gatekeeping is a must. But if catalyst like so many others want to learn the hard way as their revenue drys up hey go for it. You can easily be replaced. I'm here for the games and lore not your political dogma.
Agreed, Battletech is forty years old, and it's longevity is not because of the companies who have owned the license. It's the fans and the community who have kept it alive all this time. Catalyst are not the first stewards of the IP, and they will not be the last.
The catalyst incident appears to be more about an aggressive branding move than a social justice crusade. The corporate sees some of its hard core fans as toxic and perhaps limiting their appeal to the wider public. At least that is the opinion of their marketing manager. Is it grounded in reality? I guess their future bottom line will give us the answer.
Right, but it's the one being dressed up as the other.
I've never seen a brand grow by shitting on the most hard core subset of their customers. And I've seen plenty try. The 'modern audience' they all chase exists only in what passes for a marketing major's mind.
Yea I don't know enough about the details. How "toxic" was the environment to new players? Was it just toxic from the perspective of a woke marketing graduate? @@tickticktickBOOOOM
@@SalsaDoom1840 If you consider someone who says, "Look, I just want giant robots to punch each other, not listen you ramble on for an hour about how your pilots are disabled trans women of color," literally worse than Bad Moustache Man, I guess you could call it toxic.
Love the video, hoss!
Thanks!
Very well articulated analysis of the situation dude.
They fail to realise that now is not a good time to antagonise the consumer base. When angry the printer go brrrr. Especially for older gamers with massive collections, we don't need Catalyst games, they need us to survive. We survived the fall of FASA, the Clicktek dark age, the disappointment of the Battletech pc game (thankfully redeemed by the modding community, love my 3062). We are the cockroaches of gaming.
Thank you for this video. I'm one of those "nasty and horrible" conservatives that would be targeted by many with such a policy, even if I don't do anything against anyone.
I understand the cultural shift that has been going on. However, I will never condone the use of trauma to shut down the exploration of the darker sides of our real world within an artistic medium. That undercuts the whole point of artistic expression. There is a tightrope that artists must walk to get their point or expression across, and every artist will fall off that rope when discovering their method to successfully express themselves in a way that conveys their meaning. Constructive criticism is a great and useful way to hold an artist accountable, but reactionary pearl clutching inevitably leads to entrenchment and a retardation of art in and of itself.
I'm one of the people who stopped buying from Catalyst Labs in 2010 because of this scandal. I was very into 4e and bought everything. I stopped then and haven't since.
I remember when Catalyst "helped" Cthulhutech and Eclipse Phase.
What happened there?
@@jmorton201
The greatest service a company can provide is to deliver good products and services, at fair market prices, to those who wish to purchase. For companies to abandon their customers in favor of campaigning for political ideologies is both a disservice to the customers and folly for the company. Those who cry loudly that all these RL issues must be brought into the game will not purchase goods or services to keep the company in business - they never cared about the game anyway, they just want to force their viewpoint in a fascist manner. Good luck staying in business, CGL. There's too many other places I can get miniatures from for me to be subject to all the name-calling and rudeness. I truly hope you learn a valuable lesson from this, CGL. You could have made a fortune just selling BT merch, but you chose to shit on your customers instead.
Another odd bit of synchronicity: Blaine Pardoe went to my high school and though I don't know him personally may of my original gaming group does. We were both deeply inspired by the same Honors English teacher to pursue a life of reading and deep thinking.
Is there any franchise that I grew up loving that hasn't been taken over by people who despise it, it's creators, and it's fans, and are only interested in how they can use it to push their political agenda onto people who just want to enjoy their hobby in peace? Best I can come up with is Transformers, but I think that's because Michael Bay already wrecked it.
Long term, I think a post I saw on Twitter sums up what will happen:
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>Walk up to a leftist trying to legalize pedophilia and sex change operations for 3-year-old children.
"What is the exact opposite of all this? What do you consider your worst enemy? What is the thing you least want for society?"
"Nazis."
"Thank you."
That's not really a thing or a political agenda that actually happens, outside wildly fringe elements.
@@PostmortemVideo Did you miss them trying to rebrand kiddie diddlers as 'Minor Attracted Persons?"
It also makes you weak if you don't expose yourself to criticism, alternative ideas, and being offended.
I have no comment on the situation, I just wanted to say your drip and aesthetic is baller as fuck
Ah... Another business slitting its own wrists through misguided venting by one of their employees with daddy issues. Good luck keeping your job!
We're unlikely to get female space marines...
FFS Jim!!! Don't tempt fate like that!!!
I think the bigger driver on this announcement is the code word for "community driven projects" which reads as neither an old school OGL license or any clarity on what these projects will be. If anything it reads as if they're over coding this silly caution in favor of getting free community/fan work locked in to their IP. So the whole "woke" positioning smells to me as an outreach to a specific group of fans they'll try to snag for free unpaid labor from the progressive side by signaling that if they take the leads on these projects they'll get magical progressive clout by making free Battletech stuff about eggs and napoleon flavored ice cream flags, just so long as Catalyst gets all the credit and can potentially swipe any new stuff from the progressive non hires they invite on board. As unpaid labor but not calling it an unpaid internship, that would be too honest. A community driven project is a community driven project and that's what kind of kept Battletech going for a long while past the 90's and Micro$haft's laziness in doing anything with FASA's IP's once they bought them, the fans just did it and that was that. All that virtue signaling smells of GW's IP buggery when they thought they owned the term "space marine" and honest fan works and wisely realized that you keep your trademarks just use ancient Latin labels instead to stop yourself from getting into fights with your own community that built you up in the first place.
Honest fans if left alone will keep alive that which they love in tabletop (see: Sarna wiki or Megamek) even if you go right out of business. Trying to own them like they're your interns is a stupid folly, yet so many companies still keep trying to do it.
If anything it reminds me of this baffling video about battletech and trans rights : yewtu.be/watch?v=NY72icaEgVI, it was baffling in that it barely contained anybody other than Stackpole that helped create and run Battletech since the 80's and instead was front loaded with 21st century e-celebs and HGL personnel. This vid was sent out right after HGL got cut off from Paradox Entertainment and now they've gotten a massive budget shortfall which means they can't ever do another Battletech strategy game on home computers now since it's success has lead to MS raising the roof of licensing that and Shadowrun. And that video was a bit too on the weird nose for that to just come out, it almost sounded like a bizarre hail mary to try and court trans customers in a bizarre attempt to kept them around with the most out of sync virtue signaling vid there is.
wait, what did they say?
Link in the description.
@@PostmortemVideo your awsome sir
Hatred is still hatred no matter the cause.
See this guy? This is a principled guy. Who disagrees with me, I have no doubt, on 85% of everything.
Gatekeeping is good.
Well, not having heard or read the announcement it would have been helpful if it would have been presented in this video about it.
Good presentation. You are a rare leftist.
I have never been to a gaming con, so I have no experience with that. SOME gaming youtubers, however... I have followed a bit of a circuitous path politically over the years. Back in the 80s I thought of myself as "conservative" (despite some important views that simply weren't, but, there you go). Years later, over the last several years I've been saying stuff like "I think I'm pretty much a socialist these days", for example. (Or I dunno, maybe socdem is closer to truth. But i really see the class struggle everywhere these days). That all is a big change for me. Back to the point: most gaming youtubers are studiously apolitical: perhaps generally a good idea. But there are a few... One guy, if he didn't have pretty interesting things to say about rpg, I wouldn't listen to him anymore--whenever he revs up about "woke" bs, I go elsewhere. Tedious. It's even possible that I might AGREE with him every once in a while (the broken clock...) but i cant stand it, even so. Anyway, one thing I DON'T see much of on TTRPG TH-cam are people with the courage to pepper their videos with Leftist easter eggs, and this is certainly the very first time I've heard the word "aparatchik" in this context. Lol. 😁✊️ Good on ye! And, my views on the political things you discuss seem fairly in line with what you say. At any rate, good video: this was a sane take on a sticky subject.
What has any of this got to do with my Giant Fighting Robots? I don't tend to pay much attention to these kinds of press releases, it's just socialist media boilerplate.
Well they're banning and blocking tons of people, cutting down your ability to provide feedback and turfing their fan communities into monocultures
Basically, don't be surprised if you get banned from official events because some smoothbrain thought running a Clan lance meant you were literally in the KKK.
That sounds bad and all, but as a BattleTech player/collector of 39 years standing there's not much the current custodians of the brand can do to spoil my fun. Me and my friends are pretty much a monoculture all to our selves, we grab minis and PDFs as it suits us and ignore the dross/kids. If CGL were to go tits up tomorrow very little of value would be lost, apart from my massive Mercenaries Kickstarter pledge. Somehow I'd find the will to carry on, just like we did when FASA went tits up etc.@@PostmortemVideo
I'd be amazed if I got banned from an official event. They all happen thousands of miles from where I live. Well, okay, not 'all', but those days are well behind me@@tickticktickBOOOOM
I feel like you dropped the ball a little by not actually making this video about the CGL case which you barely mention instead going on about a lot of other incidents, while I agree on some of your general points, in this case I feel it's kinda important to look at the stuff that has actually happened in this specific circumstance, stuff like the BT subreddit blanket banning _any_ LGBT+ fan content last year which led to a lot of drama and upheaval, so in this case i would say this message is an understandable step to make it clear "We do not stand for that"
Yes these rules can be used to deplatform people and stuff, but if there is actual suppression going on on platforms, which there very much was and is, should you _not_ take a stand against it just out of fear that it might rub people the wrong way?
Rainbow people have proven to be an absolute blight on gaming over the last few years. Excluding them is a net gain for all tabletop gamers.
A subreddit actually banning rainbow folks?? I don't believe it. Reddit is MASSIVELY bent Left.
Plenty of other people will do the gossip, I prefer to take a larger view.
You fail to mention that the BT Reddit moderators have recently did a massive purge (myself included) of people that simply stated that they were tired of seeing pro-trans pro-LGBT messages and stick to the game.
@@PostmortemVideoTotally fair but then shouldn't you rather title the video something more general like "the dangers of over-anti-discriminating" or something rather than explicitly namecalling CGL when the video isn't really about their specific case?
Often I find that people tend to react to statements like CGL's with unnecessary defensive stances. It reminds me far too much of being in a work meeting and they announce a "no punching people in the face policy" going forward. What you get is some of the people doing the punching assuming they mean someone else otherwise they would have come to talk to them directly. And some of the people not doing the face punching getting defensive because they think that they are being personally called out and grouped in with the real face punchers, or get angry because "how dare they call me a face puncher when I am clearly not such a person. They should know better than to accuse ALL of us of face punching", or "what the hell? Now we can't even punch people in the face? What kind of fascist crap is this?"
Another issue though is that blanket terms like "liberal" and "conservative" don't really mean what they used to anymore. There's all flavors in each spectrum and, especially in the US, they get really pissed when they're lumped in with the others that they disagree with. But the truth is that it's the far extremes of each party howling the loudest and being generally obnoxious, to the dismay of those more moderate members of that party. Honorable discourse is possible between left and right, just not with the far left and far right. Their opinions are hard-coded as ideology akin to a religion. Once upon a time members of opposing parties could argue but still find common ground. But ever since the Great Calamity (aka Reagan's presidency) the Neocons of the Far Right got organized and took power. Leading to the Far Left start recruiting in response. Meanwhile all the moderate have to live with this shit. It's funny but the show "All in the Family" is actually a great example of how differences in politics used to look like before Reagan.
Umm no. The democrats lost their shit in the 1990s when they lost control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 60+ years. After two generations the left got it in their heads that was their birthright.
It is due to alot of these things that I stopped buying certain games or purchasing from certain companies. I no longer buy WOTC or Hasbro products. I used to like Kobold Press, not anymore. I don't buy Paizo products anymore (even after my long love for Pathfinder 1e). I don't understand why it can't just be "we are gamers who make games" and everyone has to be political about everything. If you don't like they type of product someone is offering, DON'T buy or play that game. Just find something else, you don't have to complain and moan to have them change something you aren't a part of anyways.
Am partway through the Mage Leader video.
See, this is why some people want to play Solo Games, o Jim. People _suck_.
Wow. What's the term for this phenomenon? Where black is white, up is down? Where an anti-harassment policy is harassment? This isn't Newspeak, so...?
Strictly speaking, purely technically, it's irony. However, they don't intend it to be ironic, so it's more hypocritical - to profess one thing and do the opposite.