Young Liberal on Why Young People Aren't Voting Liberal | Q+A | ABC News In-depth
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- Director of Youth Policy at Menzies Research Centre Freya Leach shares why she thinks young people aren’t voting for the Liberal party.
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I think what she's misunderstanding is that young people are very aware of what values liberals stand for and they do not agree with it. She's about as patronising as you'd expect a liberal supporter to be, but she's 20 not 80.
Got it in one! Libs arent for the aspirational, thats thw smoke and mirrors
Actually young people don't understand Libertarianism
This 1000%!
@@gregcomerford7505 You must have been brainwashed to believe that.
@@Lee-cc9jfthe Liberals are NOT libertarian.
The party of rich boomers for other rich boomers
With a few young lackys 🤣
Agree.... only problem is Labour is a party of rich boomers with a bit of social consciousness for other rich boomers with a bit of social consciousness
@@deano1873modern Labor is made up of the children of the actual working class, which these kids no longer are.. and they try to push far left values as if they are working man's values, when they are the complete opposite of what the average worker wants.
It is a shame that this young person is been brainwashed to think the
Liberal Party has a future after her party has soled out her future to
big oil banks and the rest of their corporate donors.
Lol such a boomer reply 🤣
It really doesn't matter what you claim your values are, when the parties actions keep contradicting them. Like most conservatives, she's all about her feels rather than any facts.
I don't know how someone can say so many words but mean so little.
I was thinking the exact same thing hahahaha
I just commented the same thing before I saw your comment LOL word salad
She should enter politics .
Well put. But then it's hard to push back against vapour.
Good one… Rather than acknowledging the libs are out of touch blame the people for not understanding what freedom is
Genuine Skinner moment "No, it's the children who are wrong."
Typical LNP tactics, playing the blame game
Fair comment (for a city fan)
I think young people understand Liberal party values well, the freedom to exploit people and planet for the aspiration of wealth. How condescending she is, yet also so ignorant about the realities of structural inequality which doesn't disappear just by ignoring it.
The Liberal Party had the first aboriginal politician, the first Aboriginal Ministerial portfolio and also the Coalition set up the $4 billion per year NIAA.
"Just get off your ass and get a job at your dads company. It'll be hard work but with a small grant of 200k you'll be able to get going in the property market"
Subsidising big companies at the expense of small businesses and employees isn't "being for freedom" 😂
Yup
Letting big (& little) companies fail amidst a global pandemic would have been an irrational decision and cost ordinary Australians their prosperity.
Expecting the big businesses to pay back that money is rational (when they are rolling in profit), but something no political party in Australia will do.
@@nigelhickman2274 Subsidising big business predates covid by a long way. Neither of the 2 main parties will obviously do it, that's not to say the socialists or maybe the Greens wouldn't though.
@@doogle13what socialists?
@@doogle13Why didn't include a claw back provision? Or limit executive salaries if they took a handout?
“We live in a culture of identity politics” “..I’m a liberal”
Crazy thing is, a level of sensitivity and empathetic understanding is required to be a good politician as well as a major consideration within policy making. Especially in an era of great human migrations, and rising multiculturalism for many decades, keeping identity politics in mind is wildly important to ensure rights are preserved for everyone.
The LNP are not real liberals and never have been but could have been classical liberals decades ago. But Modern Liberalism is more centre-left, yet the LNP are heading more and more to the right, especially under Diaper Dutton's watch
Wow, if this isn't missing the point entirely by someone who is blind to the privilege they came from, I don't know what is.
Yeah, she has that upper middle, went to dance/performing arts school, never worried about the next hot meal and a-car-for-sweet-16 aussie accent, doesn't she.
Most people in their 20s grew into their political understanding while the Libs were in power. If they don't "understand" what the Liberal party stands for it's because they never showed them working for the majority of people throughout their time in government.
This person believes the spin rather than the observable actions
more like she IS the spin
We are disliked because we are misunderstood? More like their values do not reflect the change in Australian values.
What changes?
Australian values haven't changed much... The Libs have just moved right
@@raylouis7013pretty much
@@falconmclenny7284Religion is defunct, staying in the same job for 40 years Is defunct, getting married is defunct; if I think of more I’ll edit 😂
@@LessMoneyLessChoice religion and marriage are defunct? Careers are defunct???
Yeah... nah.
The values haven't changed, but your perception of them is a little skewed.
Word salad that’s false. Does this chick actually know anyone in their 20’s? As a mother of 4 young adults under 25, she’s wrong.
Isn't she in her 20s?
@@JackSimpsonJBS Yes and she has no understanding of other 20 year olds.
We understand what they represent, Scott Morrison made it all very clear, that's why we voted them out.
"We aren't the problem, it's young people's fault for not understanding us"
Tell me you have rich parents without saying you have rich parents
Having rich, or poor parents, is no excuse for one’s own successful performance in life.
Just look at a certain “Hunter Biden”.
😂❤
Awesome!
People don't vote Liberal because the Liberal Party needs to tow the line for the Nationals. Turnbull could have had my vote if he hadn't been such a cowardly leader.
Truth
At least he tried. I guess that's better than brainwashed.
Also people don't vote LNP because of how dishonest they are but people do vote liberals anyway because their television tells them to do so
Nothing wrong with the Nationals
@@Sean-me4fv What I meant was that progressive voters might have thought about voting Liberal if Turnbull had been able to enact legislation the way he wanted. However he needed the Nationals to stay in power, so he was limited in that regard. Obviously if you are a Nationals voter that is a good thing.
Yeh nah. I had aspirations of owning a home for my family and LNP ensured sky high house prices kept that aspiration out of reach for most young people. Bravo 👏👏👏
The only way to get housing prices down is to vote for Greens
@@jaidentslgl2753 or hope for financial collapse
Nice sentiment but problems don't go away if you just ignore them.
A barrage of words, but it was a farrago of unrelated issues that were non-sequiturs
Young people still have self instincts to be accepted in the community, that's why they can be kind, bubbly, and accepting. that's why conservative values of exclusion, self preservation, and manufacturing cobflict based on tribalism is never compatible woth young people.
Being obsessed with race and gender is a conservative saw. The Left simply say everyone deserves respect unless their conduct causes them to lose that respect.
Projection at its finest
Everyone deserves respect, except for those who have different views to the left.
Freya is deranged if she thinks liberals stand for freedom and aspiration 😂😂😂
Freedom for political donors, not for the voters
Everything she said is redundant because her party and its partner organisations create the issues she is raising, and she knows this.
Conservative values do not align with the interests of regular people, young people, the sick, the elderly, workers, students, immigrants, or anyone other than conservatives, their alumni, families, associations, and friends in the private sector, corporations, ect. Sounds tired but it’s not.
If she doesn’t know this already and isn’t actually lying, she soon will.
I hope she would give up playing politics and join the Greens army
Sorry what? LNP about freedom? I seem to remember them introducing mass surveillance....
Free unless you are a person of colour, LGBLTIQ+, a woman, migrant or refugee etc etc
Incredible comedy to cut from the white woman talking about how race doesn't matter to the extremely unimpressed Asain woman
Freedom to pay for everything and do as we say
Privileged white person championing freedom and aspiration.....😑
The Liberal view of 'freedom' is not what most people believe real freedom to be. The Liberal view of freedom means restriction of rights for many others. It's freedom on their terms. Aspiration is fine but again, their aspiration usually means others miss out or their success at someone else's or the environments expense. We know conservative history. They don't change.
You should look up the meaning of being a Liberal and being a Libertarian.
@@Lee-cc9jf we're talking about Australian Liberalism. How's about you do your research, and look up with their values are.
The difference between freedom to and freedom from. Freedom to choose is far better than freedom from the illusion of danger.
@@audreydoyle5268 They are called the Australian Liberal party because they have Liberal values and where established on the Libertarian philosophy. If you have some warped idea of who they are then that is your problem.
@@Lee-cc9jf No mate, you have the warped ideas.....they are not 'liberal' in the American sense, they are our conservative party, ie: as conservative as America's mad GOP.
This person should have said equity and caring for the environment.
The LNP never cared about the environment and now want to wreck our economy by investing in nuclear which costs at least six times more than wind and solar
Their is no misunderstanding about the values of the liberal party. Peter Dutton is leader and his track record seals for itself.
That fundamental misunderstanding of liberal party values appears to be disproportionately
represented within elected LNP politicians. Most specially ones with the highest offices.
This girl is a perfect liberal. Slow and dull. She W do well in the LNP.
Gas Lighting.
We have prison studies on how Psychopaths use their hands to communicate while manipulating.
Young people absolutely do understand Liberal values. That's why Liberal will die off with the Boomers.
With the Greens becoming the new major party
The political party in Australia who are trying to restrict freedoms are the LNP. As an example there was overwhelming public support for same sex marriage even prior to the plebiscite but Abbott was more concerned about his personal religion than the views of the people and made everyone go through an unnecessary and expensive process to change the laws. And if anything they've gone further to the right since then.
A marriage is a traditional relationship between a man and a woman with the aim of raising children.
This “same sex” pronoun has no place there.
And while a same sex relationship has legitimacy, and could raise a family, it is different from what is referred to as a “marriage“!
@@robertholland7558assuming your definition of marriage is (or was) correct, the reality is simply that things change over time. Many would argue things have changed for the better in this scenario, as would I.
@@jojomang8333 reality does not change, only the perception or interpretation of it.
The mountain is still the mountain, the ocean still the ocean. Is it better? I doubt it, different perhaps, but better, definitely not! If anything I would argue things have changed for the worse, as humanity is losing its connection with reality. Just imagine some event wiping out the electrical grid and everything connected to it. Most of us would be dead by the end of the week, now that is the true reality! Planet earth is the reality, humanity is nothing but an imaginary pipe dream that is drifting into a delusional insanity.
PS There is no assumption in the definition of a marriage, non at all!
Relationships between two men, or two women or two trans person or two humans of anything other then a man and woman, might be able the successfully raise a family of children, but it is not, and never will be a “ marriage “! Just like the mountain will never be the ocean!
@@robertholland7558 you don't even understand what a pronoun is, so how can you argue against marriage EQUALITY?
If you have the right to marry the person you love, and the right to claim next of kin, and I don't, then that does not make marriage a universal right to all humans. It would make it a heterosexual privilege.
The concept of marriage has been around longer than the conception of Judaism and other Abrahamic religions.
You do not have monopoly on legal recognition of love.
I don't think she's aware that Australia has had freedom for the entirety of its existence.
What I would give to see the dislike count on this video
gender, race, other arbitrary things that take the focus away from what really matters - the pursuit of wealth.
Hmmm smells like an open sewer...
Funny, considering how many impoverished suburbs still have ditches posing as drains.
As an ex liberal voter I am disgusted with the party. They haven't moved on, or be as accepting as they should be, or as focused on the environment as they should be. They really need to reevaluate and move on with the times, or they will never regain power.
They'll probably gain power again in six years time. I'll explain why?
The current polls from the Essential poll says that LNP primary votes are at 32%, ALP at 31%, The Greens at 13% (coulda been higher if people supported Chandler-Mather's low rated opinion), PHON at 8% (was 6% in the last poll), UAP at 2%, undecided at 6%, and other at 8%.
At the end of last year, the ALP had 35% primary vote in the Essential Poll, the LNP at 30%. ALP support decreased by 3%, LNP support increased by 2%. But PHON support increased from 6% to 8%.
Australia since the beginning of the year is heading more and more to the right because our media is not diverse enough since it is controlled by the LNP
Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my chin begins. Unrestricted freedom to pollute ends when it enters the environment we live in.
Is she saying that "identity politics" precludes you from having any other ideas or motivations?
False
Oh dear!
I’m not rich enough to vote liberal
Even many rich people realise that the LNP are not the way to be
When you describe gender and race as “arbitrary factors”….well…enough said…..
I wonder which nauseatingly wealthy suburb mummy and daddy are from?
Giving Sunny Bank or Hamilton
Sounds like the conservative line from the US to me. Freedumb!
Yeah, Australian politics is backwards. Labour actually care about people but don't have the economic might to do anything about one particular problem at a time cause they spread themselves thin, and Liberal funnel lower class tax payer's money into corporations, under the guise of "creating more job positions", while doing everything in their power to dismantle Mum n Pop shops.
This gave me second hand embarrassment
😂
Wow, what a waste of breath.
I voted based off policies, and liberal policies have SUCKED for years.
Come up with some orginal ideas that help Australias and then you will attract young peoples votes.
Why would the ABC just allow propaganda on their show without challenge?
The party of Menzies doesn't exist anymore. The Liberals are finally a conservative party like the Tories. The Nationals have been that way for a while. These parties only support regressive policy. Seriously, nothing Morrison or Dutton have done is aspirational. Now Lay takes direction form Abbott's oppose everything regressive style of politics.
Some progressives argue that the ABC is leaning right
@jaidentslgl2753 yep i see how this was worded poorly. I should have made it a statement. The ABC have allowed this parry propaganda on their page. That's a problem.
Aspiration and freedom are held back by this oppressive system due to gender and race. It is enabled by class.
She practised that infront of a mirror days before coming on tv with bad foundation
😂
I just read a book by Jesse Ventura it’s called no more gangs in politics all I see is gang members up here only difference is these people have made there crimes and legal
She’s very well trained in pr. Absolute dribble
Yeah how about no
Aspirations are nice and good to have but talking down to voters turns ppl off.
Freedom is to vote your values. The LNP doesn't inspire young people cause they have seen the impact of their governance their whole life.
This video is a great example of privilege being invisible to those that have it.
Bring back Johnny and costello lol
It's easy to say when your seeing substantial 'value' in your bank account
And here I thought the liberal party was actually about what Scott Morrison wanted, and let's not forget while the LNparasites were running the place we saw the aspirations of young Australians destroyed by the greed enabled by the LNparasites..
Didn't the federal Coalition government have total control of the very policies you say failed young people?? If that has manifestly failed them, why would they support /vote for the Liberals?
Liberal party values are freedom and aspiration.
Freedom to be bigots, and aspiration to become famous for it.
A twenty year old waffling on about Liberal Party values. Peak ABC pointlessness.
What rubbish say anything about A LNP politician you get sued 😂
Neville Bonner, the first Indigenous politician in Australia lived by this as an elected Liberal and he was still outcasted by his own party. Identity politics is deeply entrenched in The Liberal party, and unless you’re white (and hopefully male), you’re always going to be seen as a second class citizen.
Neville Bonner was not outcasted. The Australian Liberal Party where the first politicial party in Australia to have an Aboriginal politician, first to have an Aboriginal Minister, First to have an Aboriginal in cabinet. Under Scomo the NIAA was established costing $4 billion per year and employs 1200 Aboriginals.
@@Lee-cc9jf he was outcasted. If you watched any documentaries or read anything about him, he faced racism within the Liberal party.
@@Lee-cc9jf never heard of white knighting?
@@audreydoyle5268 What relevance does that have to anything ?
What did each party do? Keep reading
Each party, parties, at the expense of the general hard working population.
Try to get yourself, or a worthy candidate onto the ballot paper.
The whole “political party” is 100% corrupted!
We need a voice enshrined in the constitution alright, the voice of the general hard working people!
Get rid of political parties, constitutionally, or at least define what is a political party, what it can and more importantly can not be! Get rid of gerrymandering and preferential voting systems. A true representative candidate would have zero problems getting a true majority vote!
@@robertholland7558 " _Get rid of political parties, constitutionally, or at least define what is a political party, what it can and more importantly can not be!_ "
What do you suggest? In particular what should a political party not be?
" _Get rid of gerrymandering and preferential voting systems. A true representative candidate would have zero problems getting a true majority vote!_ "
You know preferential voting is objectively more democratic than first-past-the-post right?
Proportional representation is even more democratic but that's beside the point.
@@TzarLatok preferential voting is objectively more democratic than first past the post?
How can that be? If a candidate get an outright majority vote, nothing can be more democratic!
And if no candidate gets a primary majority, then non of the candidates are good enough.
If one can not finish a marathon, one can not say they ran the marathon. Adding the time and distance from the last competitor still does not make the front runner a winner. WE NEED BETTER CANDIDATES, FULL STOP! There are candidates that get a 50%+ vote, but they are few.
I prefer political alliances. This one philosophy fits all is wrong. Sometimes a policy requires a progressive approach, and others a conservative approach. And these approaches change over time. Yes technically a candidate can “ cross the floor”, but they will loose their party nomination and that is one thing a party should not do, nominate and select candidates, constituent voters should do that. No more party apparatchiks candidates.
I was at this taping.
Just be who you are. People need to stop shoving their identity, sexuality, down other peoples throat. JUST DO YOU!!! No flags, no parades… get on with your life and focus on being yourself. You will never change 99% of the population on their beliefs. Not going to happen. Stop wasting your time.
Hear! Hear!
Well said.
If only more folks understood that simple message.
Easy to say when you're the one with your foot on the heads of the oppressed. You don't see oppression unless you're the one being stepped on.
I would love to focus on myself, however that's a bit difficult when 60% of the population, not 99, are raging xenophobes. I'd rather live in a world that focuses on cooperation and community, instead of dysfunctional individualism.
There is nothing wrong with having a flag to symbolise who you are. You have a flag that says where you're from, a symbol that says what faith you believe, why can't I have a flag?
Derp
A rare gem these days, it’s good that some young people think for themselves beyond what they have been taught in school and the opinions of their peers. There is hope.
I think this lady has a misunderstanding of a large group of young voters that hate the greens.....
She is incredible. World needs more like her!
I wonder why a lot of young people don't seem to her to 'aspire' like young liberals do, maybe there are some structural factors perhaps tied to identity that impede them from such a positive outlook, perhaps even factors exacerbated by her party?
group mentality, gender, race is pushed from the left, not the right
The irrational right loves to talk rubbish about all of those topics just as much as the irrational left does.
I agree. But there’s more than just being free to do what you want. There’s the opportunity to utilise your freedom
I’m a liberal and I am lost with that word salad - just champion lower taxes and small government end of.
It's a bit rich to have any Liberal calling for us to leave behind "identity politics".
That's pretty much been the go-to strategy for the Coalition, particularly since Howard.
Also I wonder how bitter the taste of 'Shrug off the baggage of race and gender in favour of freedom and aspiration' would be to a maginalised group.
Hard to give warm we-are-one messages with a straight face after the Coalition's conduct over the past three decades.