Hey loser, ADOX CMS 20 is panchromatic film not orthochromatic like you mentioned here Or actually Orthopanchromatic so kind of in-between in terms of sensitivity on the light spectrum. Do your research! (Thank you to Kerberos2233 for pointing this out for me!)
Actually having finally got a roll I would say the current p30 is more like a ~25/32 ASA film and it actually seems to skew more orthochromatic, pretty much the reverse of what you’ve been saying. Try it with a colour checker and ‘pulled’ and you’ll see more shadow detail, if you want that and very dark reds. My view is its basically being pushed a couple of stops rated box speed. Looks nice though.
I was thinking the same (that 8 1/2 was shot on Ferrania P30). But I was told from somebody Who knows it, that Fellini and Antonioni never have used Ferrania P30 (but Pasolini did!). I was told that 8 1/2 was shot on Dupont Pathé
I love this film. It's a little like shooting slide film as far as the shadows go, but that inky black is just addicting. I can't wait for 120 and 400!
Panchromatic means sensitivity to all colors, as you stated. Orthochromatic means sensitive to all colors except for red. While there is typically a greater sensitive to blue in orthochromatic films, this is incidental. Hope that doesn't come off too pendantic. Good review of a fascinating film stock!
Awesome video! I still have some P30 left in my fridge from my initial and exclusive purchase. It's probably my fav B&W film of all time and has an awesome story behind it as well.
Perfect timing. My roll of P30 was delivered today. I love constrasty film. Just need to finish the roll that's in my camera before shooting the Ferrania. I will be thrilled if my shots turn out as constrasty as yours.
Thank you! I kind of realized that too late after I made reference to it...some people were also referring to it as Orthopanchromatic film. My mistake!
Awesome! I was waiting on an email from them as to availability, looks like you beat them to it. Just ordered 4 rolls. Think I will do some experiments with creating colour pictures with filters around victoria. Should give some interesting results.
Hey Noah what's up, nice review on the Ferrania P 30 can't get this film in the land down under, yet. It is great that you mentioned "Filters" it is rare for anyone to show the good or bad use of them, I feel it is a must do for a serious review. Different B&W films act differently as you would be aware. Examples you wouldn't use a Red filter on ortho film, but use it a panchromatic film and your skies get darkens on landscape. Sorry just an example and i don't mean to patronize. You do great work 🤙
Definitely! I want to pickup a variety of filters for shooting black and white stuff and be able to show off a shot or two as an example of their impact on different stocks.
That's because you call it Fer-rah-nia, not Ferraynia. The "tomayto", 'tomahto' nonsense doesn't work if you're speaking about real living people or real living companies with the bad taste to use languages other than American English.
According to the Naked Photographer's tests, this film is very orthochromatic and should be shot at ISO 32, not 80. A soft working developer should also be used to control contrast. It certainly doesn't look like a typical pan film to me.
We would love to see home development, say in Rodinal 1:25 or Fomadon. Thanks for the review, but without doing things by your self you have let go of the control to get the best from the film.
Just started collecting Polaroids and I was wondering wether you could make a video comparing the photo quality of different Polaroid cameras (sx70, 636, Impulse)
I hear Xtol is good with this stuff. I’ve shot 2 rolls developed in Rodinal and was severely disappointed. The contrast was ridiculously extreme and unpleasant. I have one more roll to shoot so I hope Xtol does the trick otherwise I’m done with P30.
That would be so awesome, but motion picture stock is even a smaller market than 35mm stills. Probably going to be prohibitively expensive for them to produce without some serious demonstrated interest which won’t happen for a while.
Their intent has been to bring back FerraniaColor in 16mm and Super 8, but I don't think they've talked about cutting P30 for cinema stocks. I'd love that though!
They have a chance if they go with color because people would use it in music videos and similar stuff. But black and white is out of the question. People doesn't shoot it that much. Maybe indie filmmakers but not every single one of them...
@@Jorge_Ambruster "But black and white is out of the question. People doesn't shoot it that much." - well, Foma can make both ends meet with their b/w-only stock. A lot of Std8/Double Super 8 shooters (myself included) have CHOSEN these formats (and not Super8!) because of the supercheap Foma stock as opposed to the 3+ times more expensive Kodak Super8 stock.
I wish they started manufacturing affordable(!!!!) S8 film. That is, it needs to cost at most, say, 15euros (given that the Kodak b/w equivalent costs about two times more.)
I'd like to try Ferrania, but I've been somewhat hesitant. I'm still disappointed that they haven't followed through on the majority of the promises they made in their Kickstarter. By now we should have color and black-and-white stocks, in addition to both Super-8 and 16mm versions. But now, almost a decade later, all we have is P30. At this point, I'd settle for P30 in Super-8, just to give Tri-X some incentive to improve.
Hey loser, ADOX CMS 20 is panchromatic film not orthochromatic like you mentioned here Or actually Orthopanchromatic so kind of in-between in terms of sensitivity on the light spectrum. Do your research! (Thank you to Kerberos2233 for pointing this out for me!)
Actually having finally got a roll I would say the current p30 is more like a ~25/32 ASA film and it actually seems to skew more orthochromatic, pretty much the reverse of what you’ve been saying. Try it with a colour checker and ‘pulled’ and you’ll see more shadow detail, if you want that and very dark reds. My view is its basically being pushed a couple of stops rated box speed. Looks nice though.
Had no idea Fellini shot 8 1/2 with this stock. I’m totally going to pick it up now! One of my favorite movies.
I was thinking the same (that 8 1/2 was shot on Ferrania P30). But I was told from somebody Who knows it, that Fellini and Antonioni never have used Ferrania P30 (but Pasolini did!). I was told that 8 1/2 was shot on Dupont Pathé
I love this film. It's a little like shooting slide film as far as the shadows go, but that inky black is just addicting. I can't wait for 120 and 400!
Panchromatic means sensitivity to all colors, as you stated. Orthochromatic means sensitive to all colors except for red. While there is typically a greater sensitive to blue in orthochromatic films, this is incidental. Hope that doesn't come off too pendantic. Good review of a fascinating film stock!
Ferrania was planning a 120 release sometime before the apocalypse happened.
No idea where they're at now but I think production is running again.
I wonder why people dislike an good informative like this one.
Awesome video! I still have some P30 left in my fridge from my initial and exclusive purchase. It's probably my fav B&W film of all time and has an awesome story behind it as well.
It's great seeing your confidence in front of the camera rising with each video. Thanks for the cool review!
Thank you for video! Im from Poland, here its easy to get Ferrania P30 and its not expensive at all
Perfect timing. My roll of P30 was delivered today. I love constrasty film. Just need to finish the roll that's in my camera before shooting the Ferrania. I will be thrilled if my shots turn out as constrasty as yours.
cool video, thx for the good work! slight correction though: CMS 20 is also a panchromatic film :)
Thank you! I kind of realized that too late after I made reference to it...some people were also referring to it as Orthopanchromatic film. My mistake!
That shot at 3:05 is breathtaking honestly
Fur-ahh-nee-uh
Absolutely loving this channel, I started my own channel too and only recently bought my first film camera. Your videos have been super helpful :)
I enjoy your roll reviews. Keep them coming.
I love roll reveiws. Really helps me pick out what I should shoot
Awesome! I was waiting on an email from them as to availability, looks like you beat them to it. Just ordered 4 rolls. Think I will do some experiments with creating colour pictures with filters around victoria. Should give some interesting results.
My go-to 35 B&W stock!
Trying to track some down in Australia 🇦🇺. Not easy
This stuff looks friggen great!
Hey Noah what's up, nice review on the Ferrania P 30 can't get this film in the land down under, yet. It is great that you mentioned "Filters" it is rare for anyone to show the good or bad use of them, I feel it is a must do for a serious review. Different B&W films act differently as you would be aware. Examples you wouldn't use a Red filter on ortho film, but use it a panchromatic film and your skies get darkens on landscape. Sorry just an example and i don't mean to patronize. You do great work 🤙
Definitely! I want to pickup a variety of filters for shooting black and white stuff and be able to show off a shot or two as an example of their impact on different stocks.
@@AnalogResurgence thanks for doing that. We all could learn a thing or two about filters 📸👍
Omg! I'm Italian and i didn't know about this film! Thanks for this video
That's because you call it Fer-rah-nia, not Ferraynia. The "tomayto", 'tomahto' nonsense doesn't work if you're speaking about real living people or real living companies with the bad taste to use languages other than American English.
According to the Naked Photographer's tests, this film is very orthochromatic and should be shot at ISO 32, not 80. A soft working developer should also be used to control contrast.
It certainly doesn't look like a typical pan film to me.
I have a roll of this on the way!
Definitely would shoot some in the Rolleiflex!
We would love to see home development, say in Rodinal 1:25 or Fomadon. Thanks for the review, but without doing things by your self you have let go of the control to get the best from the film.
Web channel says at time the are currently out of stock. Got on list.
A store in Rome called Sabatini Fotoforniture received a new batch a couple of days ago, I think they also ship internationally
I'm shooting a similar 35 mm film , ILFORD 80 ISO - ORTHO PLUS , in my PENTAX MX camera , haven't taken all the film up yet
Just started collecting Polaroids and I was wondering wether you could make a video comparing the photo quality of different Polaroid cameras (sx70, 636, Impulse)
Screw their kickstarter I backed them to get super8 color reversal film. I didn't got anything not even P30 :(
You are very much the exception then. Most of not everyone I know who backed it, myself included, has received their P30 rolls.
Tell them you want to switch to P30 😉
I hear Xtol is good with this stuff. I’ve shot 2 rolls developed in Rodinal and was severely disappointed. The contrast was ridiculously extreme and unpleasant. I have one more roll to shoot so I hope Xtol does the trick otherwise I’m done with P30.
Do you think Ferrania will bring it back in motion picture stocks?
That would be so awesome, but motion picture stock is even a smaller market than 35mm stills. Probably going to be prohibitively expensive for them to produce without some serious demonstrated interest which won’t happen for a while.
Their intent has been to bring back FerraniaColor in 16mm and Super 8, but I don't think they've talked about cutting P30 for cinema stocks. I'd love that though!
They have a chance if they go with color because people would use it in music videos and similar stuff. But black and white is out of the question. People doesn't shoot it that much. Maybe indie filmmakers but not every single one of them...
@@Jorge_Ambruster "But black and white is out of the question. People doesn't shoot it that much." - well, Foma can make both ends meet with their b/w-only stock. A lot of Std8/Double Super 8 shooters (myself included) have CHOSEN these formats (and not Super8!) because of the supercheap Foma stock as opposed to the 3+ times more expensive Kodak Super8 stock.
I was sure you've done p30 roll reviev. That is some Mandela Effect stuff
Haha, I've looked at Ferrania's journey before but hadn't gotten my hands on a roll until recently!
Downtown camera hands down best camera store ever!
I wish they started manufacturing affordable(!!!!) S8 film. That is, it needs to cost at most, say, 15euros (given that the Kodak b/w equivalent costs about two times more.)
Looks like we will never see the Ferrania color negative film relaunch :(
I'd like to try Ferrania, but I've been somewhat hesitant. I'm still disappointed that they haven't followed through on the majority of the promises they made in their Kickstarter. By now we should have color and black-and-white stocks, in addition to both Super-8 and 16mm versions. But now, almost a decade later, all we have is P30. At this point, I'd settle for P30 in Super-8, just to give Tri-X some incentive to improve.
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