So we got full patch notes, and a visual guide from SNK themselves and you can find both those links in the video description! Its a pretty dang big patch, and even though theres lots of fun changes its pretty clear(at least to me, right now, maybe next week i look stupid) that the tier list isn't gonna have massive shakeups, even the top tiers that got nerfed are not hit hard, and hell benimaru got buffs so lol. So lets talk about some of the changes I found specifically interesting and uhhhh watch the vid i duno im running out of word power
So since SNK made their own patch visual guide uhhhhh, I guess I won't be making one? Their vid isn't exactly total, but it does cover all the major notes. The 12th is busy anyway as Vice/Mature still launch that day, and its THE GAME AWARDS after all, so if its anywhere what i expect theres prob gonna be like 4-5 videos in that 48 hour period so not much room for a patch vid anyway. I will be streaming along on the rooflemonger twitch too for the game awards(prob starting half an hour early) so tune in for that too
Looking at the patch notes and the vid they posted. It’s kind of crazy to see how things are shaking and how things are moving. On an unrelated note it’s nice to see the characters that I play from CVS2 are all getting better. Some nice buffs/changes for King, Mai, Yuri, Kyo, Rugal, Geese, and Haohmaru are looking pretty neat with the patch stuff. It’s just neat.
Was just looking for something to watch. Read the notes already I find it nice that each big patch revolves around a mechanic of the game First patch was all about Guard Gauge and break Second was about new counter hit routes for a majority of the cast Now we have patch of the anywhere juggle
its literally on sale for the last while, and on the 12th they are doing permanent discounts and a new edition of the game with everything in one package
@@naping i wish id would have been playable online. I had the game for years and uninstalled it everytime after a couple of days since matchmaking didnt work for 2 or 3 years or smth and nowadays it seems to be a discord fighter, i feel really scammed by it tbh.
10:40 As a Darli enjoyer, is not much but is something, Now she has a hit+command hit confirm instead of using Close HP cancelling on first hit, or HK link into Down HP, This is good. She also has a very good low, Close Heavy Kick is a low, + on block, and there is a lot of set ups to make it hit on last frame beating any reversal that is 5Frames or higher.
As a scrub, Nakoruru's close heavy second hit being cancelable is such a nice change. Man I really hope there's more than 600 online when the patch drops...
I'm sorry I said they should do this last vid and now they did 😭 Mind ya, I love hearing the changes actually explained aloud. Much nicer than trying to read and watch, and your explanations are great.
I can't wait the modders make a "KOF 15 MAGIC PLUS" WITH MORE CHARACTERS LIKE "OROCHI IORI", "OROCHI LEONA", "KUSANAGI" & "GOD OROCHI", PLUS THOSE INFINITE COMBOS FROM KOF 2002 MAGIC PLUS
Darli has cl.D as an excellent low. Yeah it's a little slow (10 frames) but plus on block and hugely comboable on hit. She's still likely to struggle but giving her metered overhead options is not nothing. I would have preferred she also had ex grab become a 1 frame attack so she could link from overhead (both cancel and raw are +2 on hit and -2 on block), but that's apparently too much to ask for.
Coming to the comments to ask you lovely viewers: as someone who has never played KOF, outside of maybe 5 minutes at an arcade, how hard is KOF XV to get into? How steep is the learning curve, and how active is the online community/how good is the netplay? Thanks
It's nowhere hard as people think + I got all sorts of beginner resources on the Channel too. Netcode is perfectly fine and with patch and dlc online will be bopping
Been out of the loop on this game for so long... I should grab the rest of the dlc and play some. It's so much fun. Just hard to keep up with multiple fighters when I have a job and other games do still exist. But I can break from sf6 for a few days lol. Thanks for the vids as always. Edit I've been wanting to see what membership on TH-cam is like and what better place to start.
You know, at the end of vice and matures trailer when it said orochi is eternal I was hoping it's hinting at the next seasonand us, getting him as the free boss also, I'd love to get orochi iori and orochi leona as a part of the next character season pass with the boss that would be awesome
to me I think its just the setup for kof 16(which is gonna happen after new aof and samsho, straight from oda to me) is gonna be an orochi bonanza again. Orochi is where KoF is at its best, so just go all in
@@Rooflemonger That means KOF16 is probably at least 3 years way - which means that this patched version is what KOF fans are gonna be left with for the next almost half decade. So let’s hope the game turns out more balanced than it appears currently. (For my money I can see combinations of Rugal/O.Yashiro/K’--Benimaru--Isla, or even Benimaru--Isla--Sylvie/Goenits, defining the competitive meta going forward).
I rarely stream honestly and its something Ill try to fix come next year after the holidays. Although that said when i play on my own time I play on a private acct, no desire to get blown up on uploads for every loss lol
@@Rooflemonger that's rough--I really think KOF 15 could use a more thorough tutorial. That's one of the issues I had with it when it first dropped--I couldn't get online and I really didn't understand how to really learn the game. I wish the moves had Strive style descriptions. SNK needs to do better in this department. Shermie for lyfe.
I think Geese’s Fudou Ken having less safety all around(less pushback and more recovery frames), and slower sweep his pressure is going to be nerfed a lot actually. Might not be quite so top tier actually!
Let's hope that SNK's game mechanics will be better than the last game patch gameplay before Season 2 and 3 of KoF XV DLCs. But, waiting for the patch scripts I am
Have plans to show all the changes in the patch the moment Vice&Mature are released, Roof? Ps: We gonna suffer another invasion of Beni, Geese, Isla, Sylvie and maybe the Gato return and possibly Clark, O Yashiro.
I think what'll happen is people will ditch the top tiers for a while to see the new changes in characters they're actually interested in and then realize those characters still aren't as good as their top tiers and go rushing back to them
ill prob do a vice/mature first impressions vid day of after i lab around with them for a few hours, then deal with the game awards stuff later that night
@rooflemonger i feel like Terry's the power dunk, is a nerf. No guard point Unless it becomes an air counter, I like KOF95 or something feels like a nerf I don't know how I feel about it. I know intellectually I don't like it
Vice and Mature will be the final characters Im pretty sure as both art of fighting and new samurai shodown action rpg are in development right now on top of city of the wolves
I dont know what to tell you but Darli has had an anti-air since her release. What she didnt get was a consistent way to get in against zoners (her hammer being able to negate projectiles is way too timing reliant).
@@AlchemistStar50 Unless you mean far B I don't really know what you mean for antiair. Blowback and Tall High Tide are both slow and specific and crouch C doesn't hit in the air
They buffed a few characters that didn't need buffs as well. K' Shunei, and Kyo were already solid characters and got buffs. Meanwhile the bottom tiers got "meh, this is nice, but not what we really needed" buffs. I mean you already mentioned Darli and Maxima, but Haohmaru has a problem where if you do a jump C followed by standing C, his command normal whiffs for some reason. Sure they adjusted the push back of his command normal, but that only matters if Surprise Attack hits in the first place. Yeah sure, you can now combo super off of iron flash. Sure that's nice, but how many times are you hitting a raw Iron Flash in a game? Maybe the juggle off of EX Senpuuha into iron Flash into super will work? Not sure, but seems unlikely. Also I have a problem with how they just say "Altered character behavior" without explaining what the alteration is. Increased juggle state? Extra bounce? Crumple? Going to have to lab up my bottom tier team (Billy Darli, Haohmaru) to see if they are still trash or if they are at least usable now. My guess is they continue to be bottom tier, just with more burst damage. Of the three I'm most positive about the listed Billy changes.
So instead of giving Darli a hitbox to match her 2C so she could have that one anti-air option they want her Heavy Slash (AC) to be an anti-air?!?! That's.... uuuhhh.... I don't think that's gonna work out well. No idea why SNK has it out for our girl Also I THINK Orochi Yashiro got hit pretty hard. It looks like he might not longer be able to command grab from the CD command normal which is going to cripple his damage output (especially since they're nerfing the damage on the super anyway)
Oh we do need you though because their video is honestly kinda awful, doing two changes in the one combo and your eyes are like "do I look at the writing or at the combo?" and then you've missed everything. Not even a bit of slo-mo!
Not really. Slight damage nerf to dash n grab but besides that his crouching LP is faster, heavy rekka does more damage, can possibly juggle off of rekka now thanks to the new changes, he's just fine.
So we got full patch notes, and a visual guide from SNK themselves and you can find both those links in the video description! Its a pretty dang big patch, and even though theres lots of fun changes its pretty clear(at least to me, right now, maybe next week i look stupid) that the tier list isn't gonna have massive shakeups, even the top tiers that got nerfed are not hit hard, and hell benimaru got buffs so lol. So lets talk about some of the changes I found specifically interesting and uhhhh watch the vid i duno im running out of word power
Where can i see the Tier List?
@mistypitty4394 well everyones got their own, but i pretty much agree with violentkains and you can find that recently posted on eventhubs
But SNK's video doesn't show all characters, uncle Roofle, but I get the 12th will be a busy busy day
So since SNK made their own patch visual guide uhhhhh, I guess I won't be making one? Their vid isn't exactly total, but it does cover all the major notes. The 12th is busy anyway as Vice/Mature still launch that day, and its THE GAME AWARDS after all, so if its anywhere what i expect theres prob gonna be like 4-5 videos in that 48 hour period so not much room for a patch vid anyway. I will be streaming along on the rooflemonger twitch too for the game awards(prob starting half an hour early) so tune in for that too
That's where they are announcing boss challenge orochi? 🤔
Snk is taking rooflemonger’s job.
took food off my table
SNK NEEDS to hire him
They took our joooobs!
SNK is doing what needs to be done. But they should hire Roofle, because he deservs it.
Looking at the patch notes and the vid they posted. It’s kind of crazy to see how things are shaking and how things are moving.
On an unrelated note it’s nice to see the characters that I play from CVS2 are all getting better.
Some nice buffs/changes for King, Mai, Yuri, Kyo, Rugal, Geese, and Haohmaru are looking pretty neat with the patch stuff. It’s just neat.
Glad to see your channel back in action roofles. Scary times we're in
HE'S BACK!
(Also, hopefully a quick recovery and have a GREAT rest after what happened. You deserved a lot and also be careful!)
Was just looking for something to watch. Read the notes already
I find it nice that each big patch revolves around a mechanic of the game
First patch was all about Guard Gauge and break
Second was about new counter hit routes for a majority of the cast
Now we have patch of the anywhere juggle
Vice leads the charge of anywhere juggle
Kyo pressure is gonna be lit
I wish they did more sales for KOF.
its literally on sale for the last while, and on the 12th they are doing permanent discounts and a new edition of the game with everything in one package
@@Rooflemonger That's good to know! For the last 2 months or so I've been looking out for sales but haven't been able to catch any.
@@naping i wish id would have been playable online. I had the game for years and uninstalled it everytime after a couple of days since matchmaking didnt work for 2 or 3 years or smth and nowadays it seems to be a discord fighter, i feel really scammed by it tbh.
10:40
As a Darli enjoyer, is not much but is something, Now she has a hit+command hit confirm instead of using Close HP cancelling on first hit, or HK link into Down HP, This is good.
She also has a very good low, Close Heavy Kick is a low, + on block, and there is a lot of set ups to make it hit on last frame beating any reversal that is 5Frames or higher.
We will take it! Love that she’s in the game seriously
The 15th Knock Out Festival has returned 🔥🙏🔥
Leona’s changes have so much potential that I’m just gonna wait for someone else to lab them 😅 Mature is probably finding a spot on the team though
Holy sh!t the man is back folks
Nice, I hope more people talk about and play that wonderful game!
Can’t wait to play Rugal again. Those changes look interesting.
As a scrub, Nakoruru's close heavy second hit being cancelable is such a nice change. Man I really hope there's more than 600 online when the patch drops...
As a scrub as well I hope there are more SCRUBS specifically that come give the game another shot. 😊
@ko-yoshi lol right. If you meet a Hinako, Nakoruru, Luong online its probably me.
I'm sorry I said they should do this last vid and now they did 😭 Mind ya, I love hearing the changes actually explained aloud. Much nicer than trying to read and watch, and your explanations are great.
An entire Mai section for mee :D
The channel is back!
All buffs Look Amazing... As because they didn't Nerfed my boys Ryo and Geese, All Good 👍🏻
THE KING IS BACK
The big change for geese is definitely fudou ken, that move was arguably the best ender in the game and was insanely centralizing
You're back!!!
I love Hinako and landing Haohmaru's heavy slash in SamSho so I'm pretty happy with this patch. I wish SNK would let Darli be good but oh well.
OH SHIT ITS BACK
I can't wait the modders make a "KOF 15 MAGIC PLUS" WITH MORE CHARACTERS LIKE "OROCHI IORI", "OROCHI LEONA", "KUSANAGI" & "GOD OROCHI", PLUS THOSE INFINITE COMBOS FROM KOF 2002 MAGIC PLUS
How about the online state of the game? Does it have crossplay, how is matchmaking and player base?
Rooflemonger is baaack!
Darli has cl.D as an excellent low. Yeah it's a little slow (10 frames) but plus on block and hugely comboable on hit. She's still likely to struggle but giving her metered overhead options is not nothing. I would have preferred she also had ex grab become a 1 frame attack so she could link from overhead (both cancel and raw are +2 on hit and -2 on block), but that's apparently too much to ask for.
Coming to the comments to ask you lovely viewers: as someone who has never played KOF, outside of maybe 5 minutes at an arcade, how hard is KOF XV to get into? How steep is the learning curve, and how active is the online community/how good is the netplay? Thanks
It's nowhere hard as people think + I got all sorts of beginner resources on the Channel too. Netcode is perfectly fine and with patch and dlc online will be bopping
It's not crazy difficult but it's definitely not as hand holdy as something like Street Fighter or Guilty Gear
Been out of the loop on this game for so long... I should grab the rest of the dlc and play some. It's so much fun. Just hard to keep up with multiple fighters when I have a job and other games do still exist. But I can break from sf6 for a few days lol.
Thanks for the vids as always.
Edit I've been wanting to see what membership on TH-cam is like and what better place to start.
Can't wait!
You know, at the end of vice and matures trailer when it said orochi is eternal I was hoping it's hinting at the next seasonand us, getting him as the free boss also, I'd love to get orochi iori and orochi leona as a part of the next character season pass with the boss that would be awesome
I think SNK is shifting focus to Fatal Fury for the next few years, that's not to say they aren't listening to fan feedback for the eventual KOF16
to me I think its just the setup for kof 16(which is gonna happen after new aof and samsho, straight from oda to me) is gonna be an orochi bonanza again. Orochi is where KoF is at its best, so just go all in
@@Rooflemonger That means KOF16 is probably at least 3 years way - which means that this patched version is what KOF fans are gonna be left with for the next almost half decade. So let’s hope the game turns out more balanced than it appears currently. (For my money I can see combinations of Rugal/O.Yashiro/K’--Benimaru--Isla, or even Benimaru--Isla--Sylvie/Goenits, defining the competitive meta going forward).
Bright side, your week was made a little easier by SNK. Plus frames whenever you can get them, right?
Ahhhh they didn’t give Darli much at all huh? Wild, but hey something is better than nothing
No news about orochi Ronaldo the new hidden boss but I like this new update hype to play mature and vice
1:26 - What nerfs? Those are all buffs, and he did *not* need them!
Tell me Roofle, do you stream while playing? I want to see you often.
I rarely stream honestly and its something Ill try to fix come next year after the holidays. Although that said when i play on my own time I play on a private acct, no desire to get blown up on uploads for every loss lol
@@Rooflemonger lol I hope you will ! Thanks for the answer
I'm little surprised nobody isn't talking Shingo getting a lot of meter from his Dokugami.
Does the game list which command grabs are invincible?
nope, you just kinda need the legacy knowledge lol
@@Rooflemonger that's rough--I really think KOF 15 could use a more thorough tutorial. That's one of the issues I had with it when it first dropped--I couldn't get online and I really didn't understand how to really learn the game. I wish the moves had Strive style descriptions. SNK needs to do better in this department. Shermie for lyfe.
I think Geese’s Fudou Ken having less safety all around(less pushback and more recovery frames), and slower sweep his pressure is going to be nerfed a lot actually. Might not be quite so top tier actually!
Basically how his Fudou ken was on release, the patch that made it safe was when top players started using him.
What would you like to see Maxima get? He's one of my mains but idk what he needs
man i dont even know but whats in the patch aint it lol
Let's hope that SNK's game mechanics will be better than the last game patch gameplay before Season 2 and 3 of KoF XV DLCs. But, waiting for the patch scripts I am
Have plans to show all the changes in the patch the moment Vice&Mature are released, Roof?
Ps: We gonna suffer another invasion of Beni, Geese, Isla, Sylvie and maybe the Gato return and possibly Clark, O Yashiro.
I think what'll happen is people will ditch the top tiers for a while to see the new changes in characters they're actually interested in and then realize those characters still aren't as good as their top tiers and go rushing back to them
ill prob do a vice/mature first impressions vid day of after i lab around with them for a few hours, then deal with the game awards stuff later that night
@rooflemonger i feel like Terry's the power dunk, is a nerf. No guard point
Unless it becomes an air counter, I like KOF95 or something feels like a nerf
I don't know how I feel about it. I know intellectually I don't like it
I wonder if we will ever got goro at this point. I really like his judo moveset.
Vice and Mature will be the final characters Im pretty sure as both art of fighting and new samurai shodown action rpg are in development right now on top of city of the wolves
Are the new characters out now?
12th
Ayooo!
Alright, Darli didn't get an antiair, time to learn Kim or Shermie instead and get back into this game
I dont know what to tell you but Darli has had an anti-air since her release. What she didnt get was a consistent way to get in against zoners (her hammer being able to negate projectiles is way too timing reliant).
@@AlchemistStar50 Unless you mean far B I don't really know what you mean for antiair. Blowback and Tall High Tide are both slow and specific and crouch C doesn't hit in the air
👍👍
Dear god i hope you get some sleep sometime with these patch notes lol
same
They buffed a few characters that didn't need buffs as well. K' Shunei, and Kyo were already solid characters and got buffs.
Meanwhile the bottom tiers got "meh, this is nice, but not what we really needed" buffs. I mean you already mentioned Darli and Maxima, but Haohmaru has a problem where if you do a jump C followed by standing C, his command normal whiffs for some reason. Sure they adjusted the push back of his command normal, but that only matters if Surprise Attack hits in the first place. Yeah sure, you can now combo super off of iron flash. Sure that's nice, but how many times are you hitting a raw Iron Flash in a game? Maybe the juggle off of EX Senpuuha into iron Flash into super will work? Not sure, but seems unlikely.
Also I have a problem with how they just say "Altered character behavior" without explaining what the alteration is. Increased juggle state? Extra bounce? Crumple?
Going to have to lab up my bottom tier team (Billy Darli, Haohmaru) to see if they are still trash or if they are at least usable now. My guess is they continue to be bottom tier, just with more burst damage. Of the three I'm most positive about the listed Billy changes.
Impossible to focus with Shermie's idle stance on screen...🤭
Are we getting 9 hours or is it looking more like 5?
well snk sorta did the thing so not much need for me to do it
So instead of giving Darli a hitbox to match her 2C so she could have that one anti-air option they want her Heavy Slash (AC) to be an anti-air?!?! That's.... uuuhhh.... I don't think that's gonna work out well. No idea why SNK has it out for our girl
Also I THINK Orochi Yashiro got hit pretty hard. It looks like he might not longer be able to command grab from the CD command normal which is going to cripple his damage output (especially since they're nerfing the damage on the super anyway)
Did Shermie got buffed or nerfed? 👀
Damn they trasnformed Haohmaru into a Samsho character 🙀
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Random nerfed comment for buffed engagement purposes.
Is this game good?
And does it play like SF?
kof plays great, I guess if you compare it to SF its just way faster
@@Rooflemonger And waaayyy more dinamic and less rock papper scissor.
I guess King will stay as the queen of low tiers forever 😢
King got it good compared to Darli lol
@rooflemonger It's tragic man 😭
Darli got it good compared to Dinosaur and Ramon.
It's crazy they made the most fun version of King, then made her bad
A big patch and SNK’s video has no comparison to Rooflemonger’s explanations
well its appreciated, but their vid does hit most of the major notes and theres lots of other work to be done on the same day lol
Oh we do need you though because their video is honestly kinda awful, doing two changes in the one combo and your eyes are like "do I look at the writing or at the combo?" and then you've missed everything. Not even a bit of slo-mo!
well the day is jam packed as it is. After the game awards stuff is done and depending how dead i am after that ill re-evaluate it
Hugh Nerf on iori 😢
Not really. Slight damage nerf to dash n grab but besides that his crouching LP is faster, heavy rekka does more damage, can possibly juggle off of rekka now thanks to the new changes, he's just fine.
They should just hire you to make the patch note videos.
Also, cries in Kula.
ngl having the in game music and your music overlapping is kinda distracting
Damn I thought this game was dead.
Not in China, Pakistan, South Amerca, Asia. I'm in South East Asia, we have decent community and plays regulary. Decent online matches too.