OM System OM-1 - In-Camera Workflow - Selecting and Editing Images Without a PC

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  • @ThomasEisl.Photography
    @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @andrewbaker5167
    @andrewbaker5167 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for such a great explanation of these features. This is exactly what I was looking for! I have the OM-1 and I’m looking forward to trying this out now!

  • @Bakin
    @Bakin ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This video stood out as one of the better videos describing the OM1 camera's capabilities. There are many videos on the OM1 but few that take the camera into the field and process the images as you did. Although the material discussed is similar to other videos, the presentation made here presents the camera capabilities in a more convincing way.
    I own the Em5 Mark III and take many landscape pictures as I travel. If you enjoy autumn pictures you need to visit New England someday. Thanks

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The OM-D E-M5III is an excellent travel camera, a very compact powerhouse. The in-camera processing options should be very similar to the OM-1, so this workflow should work with your setup as well!
      Thank you very much for the very nice comment and your support of the channel!
      And special thanks for the travel tip, if I make it one day, we have to meet up for a photo walk :-)

    • @davebellamy4867
      @davebellamy4867 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can actually do a lot of this on the EM5 Mark iii. I've also used it on the EM10 Mark ii. This camera series is so much like a best kept secret. So even the entry level OMDs have some post processing in camera to a useful level.

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The RAW editing options on the EM5 Mark iii or even the EM10 Mark ii have quite a lot of options too. Very useful indeed.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you are absolutely right - I love what you can do "on the go" with these cameras!
      Thanks for the comment!

    • @mne9476
      @mne9476 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I immediately checked my E-M1 II and it’s there. Then I checked my wonderful old E-M10 II and there too. I guess I never thought to do in camera image editing! Very helpful video. Learn something new every time 👍🏻

  • @gmnty13
    @gmnty13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video Thomas. Great to see you out and about in Vienna. Has reminded me of 3 things. 1 - the in camera processing capability of my OM1 which I have completely ignored up until now; 2. How much I love Vienna. Overdue for a return visit soon; and 3. Even outside in the field, you are still the best dressed man on the internet. Pure style. Love your work.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much, that is a nice comment! Let me know when you are in Vienna 📸 Best, Thomas

  • @dennisoommen
    @dennisoommen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoyed & motivated by this. Been a photography enthusiast for many years. Was diehard Nikon DSLR ( D750) fan for a long time till I experimented with Olympus…..and haven’t looked back since. Have the EM1 ( silver edition ), EM1 Mk2 ( love it), EM 10mk2 ( Tiny ) and recently purchased EM1X ( new favorite ?). In all my years of digital photography, my biggest issue is post processing ( or rather lack thereof 😬😬). This video inspires me to start some raw edits on my EM1X ( better screen & processing power ) ! Thank you !

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahh, love to read that this motivated you! Agreed, Post Processing is a necessary evil. But really, this in-camera processing works very well!
      The E-M1X is an awesome camera, no wonder it is your new favorite!
      Thanks for the comment 📸

  • @jeffslade1892
    @jeffslade1892 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I have done for a long time now with mft is shoot raw+jpeg but set up the camera to shoot for the jpeg. This will involve the WB, Picture Mode (which are customisable), compensation (on the fly), gain curve (highlight-shadow), metering mode, etc etc. These will affect the gain, which affects the exposure solution, which affects the raw exposure.
    I often feel that if you rely on raw editing to fix the photo, you are losing out on the full potential of these sophisticated cameras to take photographs in their own right.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed - one can also easily mess up a RAW image beyond salvation when shooting with the "fix it in post" mindset! I'm a huge advocate of working as you've described - I think I'll follow up with a video describing this workflow at some point. Especially when shooting for a client, it is a great time saver to get it right on set - on set, the client sees you working, if you spend hours in front of the PC afterwards, it is pretty much your own time.
      Thanks for sharing your workflow, much appreciated!

  • @JadeMonkee
    @JadeMonkee ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd never considered using the camera for editing. I have an E-M5 mkIII. I'd previously been importing the RAW files to my phone for editing in Photoshop Express, but have been unhappy with the way it handles ISO noise compared to the native JPGs from camera.
    This seems like the perfect way to get the highlight & shadow adjustments (and occasional art filters) that I use in Photoshop Express combined with the camera's excellent noise reduction and jpg engine.
    I'm going to pay attention to the Art filters a little more now, too. I'd totally forgotten about the Art Bracket mode - and had no idea that I could apply them in camera after the fact (I thought I had to take them into OM Workspace for that).
    So thanks again for yet another useful and insightful video!

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! That is awesome to read!
      In-camera editing is really neat, and as you said - you get the camera's JPEG engine which is quite powerful!

  • @Jwitherow1964
    @Jwitherow1964 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks your the best

  • @Mthompson4545
    @Mthompson4545 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks! Your videos are very helpful. - Mick Thompson - Tucson, Arizona.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks again, Sir! Your generous support is so much appreciated. Best wishes, Thomas 📸

  • @jc.baptiste
    @jc.baptiste ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice photos, for someone outside his comfort zone 👌 and good system for sure !

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much - can't compete with your outdoor photography, so your appreciation means a lot!
      I will follow up with some more OM-1 content, before talking about some legendary Nikon cameras and lenses again. Thanks for sticking around, I very much appreciate your continued support!

    • @jc.baptiste
      @jc.baptiste ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasEisl.Photography No problem! It’s very interesting to discover another system and all the thought process around it. I am not married to any brand anyway :)
      I can’t wait for the future video however ;)

  • @LarryFasnacht
    @LarryFasnacht ปีที่แล้ว

    I do this a lot when we take bus tours somewhere. I can usually get my favorites picked and lightly edited before we get back to the hotel. I can go even further by uploading those few to my phone and sharing them while on the bus. That leaves me free to concentrate on those delicious items, such as the ones you had before you at the cafe. Also, for me, it’s much easier to make the selections and edits using the View finder rather than the screen.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing that Larry! It is a totally viable workflow - and the fact that you can make selections via the VF is also quite important for me. That is a limiting factor when working with my DSLRs. Back screens are harder to see and more prone to color shifts etc. due to the impact of ambient lighting.
      I'm glad that the OM-1 has such a good VF!

  • @TITAOSTEIN
    @TITAOSTEIN ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Thomas! Very interesting video. I have never tried the in Camera edition and now I just want to try it 😊 The OM-1 is really amazing! And the result are gorgeous! Thank you!

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome - great to hear that I provided some inspiration, I wonder whether you will like the workflow or not!
      The OM-1 is truly a pleasure to pick up and work with. OM system hit a home run with this one!
      Thanks for the comment, I very much appreciate it!

  • @catherinetremerryn
    @catherinetremerryn ปีที่แล้ว

    Art photo bracketing is something I have never thought of doing - I can’t wait! Many thx for the idea. Happy. Christmas

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Catherine - great that you found something new to try out.
      Have a great holiday season as well!

  • @Transterra55
    @Transterra55 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding, informative video...Greetings from Memphis, Tennessee USA

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much - I'm glad you liked it! Hope you were able to take some autumn photographs yourself. Greetings from Vienna

  • @aerialfilm1
    @aerialfilm1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello from Florida. I’m a tablet based workflow so I stay away from very high mp cameras. I hate carrying a traditional laptop computer, but for many options like noise reduction software, a current MBP or similar is necessary. I thought my e-m1.2 would be the last Olympus camera I’d buy after migrating to Nikon Z, but right now my finger is hovering over the buy button on this om-1. You’re not making this easy 😁

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you very much for sharing that - I'm convinced that even today, excessive amounts of resolution are actually more harm than good, and your tablet workflow or any other workflow on older machines are just impractical with 60MP files.
      Regarding the OM-1
      I went from Olympus E-M1II to Nikon F and Z, now with the OM-1, I'm just super happy. Last time I was this "wow-ed" by a camera was when I upgraded from the OM-D M5 to the M1II.
      The OM-1 is really a fantastic camera, so if your finger somehow ends up clicking the check out button, I'm quite sure you won't regret it.
      Thank you very much for your comment, Jeffrey!

    • @TITAOSTEIN
      @TITAOSTEIN ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It happened with me😊 and I bought the OM-1 😅! I love that Camera. I love my Nikon too but use both with different purposes. I have the feeling that Nikon Z and OM Cameras are a perfect combination for my work.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh, very cool 😎 congrats!

    • @tommyblack6794
      @tommyblack6794 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThomasEisl.Photography I actually went into several romances with many different camera brands and in the end, always came back to Olympus. After having a Nikon Z setup which pushed me towards investing so much money into lenses and losing on the sale. I now decided to follow the Less & Light approach. I own an E-m5 mark III body with simple 12-40/2.8, 25/1.8, 45/1.8 and the future buy 100-400. This is all that I need and more of these lenses fit into a small camera bag.
      What I find amusing about Olympus is that when setting an ART option (like grainy film II) - the screen and the EVF go into black and white. This is a very great feature that I really love and haven't found on other camera brands (except Fuji).
      In addition to the workflow approach, I find it useful that doing pictures in ART modes creates a SOOC picture and a RAW image for further improvement. Thanks to Olympus I really like taking pictures, again.

  • @RyougiVector
    @RyougiVector ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is a good reminder for me that SOOC JPEGs, whether extracted from the camera at the moment of the shot or using the in-camera RAW converter, can give lovely results worth sharing. I'd be a bit hesitant to say the same for trying to make something portfolio-worthy, but maybe I'm overthinking when a shot is portfolio-worthy or not.
    Good video, and I'm surprised by the star rating feature of the OM-1. Seems like it makes sorting the wheat from the chaff a whole lot easier by subselecting the best ones.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear you - I'm also still struggling to accept that SOOC can be so good that these files can go straight to the PF. I try to imagine the files as like slide film, that helps me overcome my "no edit" anxieties.
      I also came to realize that actually I processed the files in camera by adjusting the exposure, so it was pretty similar to what I actually would do in OM Workspace - only difference: I was having a burger and chatting with the bartender in the meantime. Also, I made use of my time on the bus by sorting through the images.
      The star rating feature can be combined with the checkbox feature and the lock image feature - combining all of those can really help making a selection quick and easy. I'd say it is a viable workflow indeed.
      Thank you very much for your comment and continued support of the channel! I hope I'll be able to follow up with other content of interest to you.

  • @Jwitherow1964
    @Jwitherow1964 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was so inspiring I have all the best full frame cameras as of 2024 and I am so inspired with my new little camera it’s my first micro 4/3 and it’s so capable and small I just might sell off moats of my expensive gear

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much. I'm really happy to hear that you are inspired by the video and equipment you have got recently. Best, Thomas

  • @Analogbrain
    @Analogbrain ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting video and very nice pictures, Thomas! I've been doing landscape for decades, mostly on slide film. Hence a really good viewfinder is essential to me, and to slow down, and compose thoroughly is important. But seeing other ways of doing it, can only broaden our horizon. Otherwise I would swap the burger for tafelspitz mit apfelkren und schnittlauchsauce.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Shooting slide film teaches you a lot - and actually I tried to get the framing right just as I would with slide film, as cropping in camera can be a hassle and you'll always loose quality, of course.
      The workflow reminded me a lot of shooting film, I was very focused knowing that I cannot get to the computer to edit the images.
      Regarding the burger, I actually planned on getting something typical but unfortunately, it was a hipster cafe, only burgers... So shame on me haha
      Thanks for your very nice comment!

  • @mxyptlk
    @mxyptlk ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Thomas for an informative video. Your OM-1 video's are clearly explained in a relaxing interesting manner.... 🙏🏻

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome, that is great to read! Glad you like my content. Much appreciated feedback, Gerry.

    • @mxyptlk
      @mxyptlk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasEisl.Photography You are more than welcome Thomas... I am thinking about swapping from Canon (long time user) to Olympus OM-1 and your informative content is very interesting for me. I was thinking about the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f4 IS PRO Lens with the OM-1...do you have any experience of this lens ? I would be keen to hear your point of view and analysis of this lens...thanks again Thomas...🙏🏻

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, I have not used this lens personally. However, I've heard only good things about it. If it is the right focal length, I would not worry about image quality or AF performance. All lenses with the PRO designation are excellent.
      Switching is always a big decision, but if you are a wildlife photographer looking a light weight setup, well. Then you won't be disappointed by the OM-1. I assume you work with DSLRs at the moment?

    • @mxyptlk
      @mxyptlk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasEisl.Photography Hi Thomas..yes you are right, a wildlife photographer using Canon for longer than I can remember... looking to carry less weight around but retain good optics and performance. Big L series lenses seem to get heavier the further one walks with them :) Thanks again for your valued advice Thomas it helps to hear from a good user such as yourself. I will watch your content with interest. I like that you say it as it is. 👍

  • @johnstephenson7620
    @johnstephenson7620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great reason to buy the OM 1

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! Usability and an enjoyable workflow is probably the most compelling reason to get a specific camera (system). The OM-1 is really an all-in-one platform.

  • @kbruff2010
    @kbruff2010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this information
    1)How did you determine the best F stop being f/4?
    2) How did you set the white balance manually?
    3) does the system show you where the focus mode was set?

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Kevin!
      1) In this case, I've tested it myself. You can also look up the values for your lens on opticallimits.com
      2) I've just selected the WB option in the super control panel. When post processing in camera, there is a dedicated menu point for setting the WB
      3) Yes, there is a little green box where the camera actually focused.
      Hope I was able to help you out!
      Thanks for subscribing to the channel and welcome

  • @jimblues21
    @jimblues21 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work, great video

  • @hawkeyepierce4961
    @hawkeyepierce4961 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gut erklärt, super Kanal. Danke!

  • @WayneLeary
    @WayneLeary ปีที่แล้ว

    I like hamburgers too! Good work by the way. Liked your Autumn colours.

  • @popiemac4579
    @popiemac4579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Thomas. You do an outstanding job. Just for clarification, if I shoot only RAW and use the camera RAW editor, it will keep my RAW file and create a jpeg with my in camera edits?

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for asking and sorry for the late reply:
      The OM-1 and other Olympus / OM cameras will always keep the RAW file! You are safe to re-process the files afterwards and not at risk of making permanent changes.
      Thank you for the kind words!

  • @AnastasTarpanov
    @AnastasTarpanov ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I've done RAW editing in camera a couple of years ago, but I didn't know there are so many options now in the OM-1. If I need to edit and share photos with a computer I transfer the RAW file to my smartphone and I do all the edit and sharing there.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you can do a lot of things in-camera with the OM-1, and you can get excellent results in terms of image quality. Absolutely worth it in my opinion.
      Thanks for sharing your process and the comment, Anastas!

  • @wayneemery5709
    @wayneemery5709 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video and some very nice pictures 👍

  • @takuan650
    @takuan650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Editing in camera for social media when image quality does not matter is maybe useful for inexperienced operators. I'd rather use an I Phone for that kind of photography. For higher quality photo results I'd spend time on post processing. I find it creative and calming and sometimes challenging. Your milage may vary.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the topic!

    • @mipmipmipmipmip-v5x
      @mipmipmipmipmip-v5x 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I want photos straight out of camera, not for social media but for family. Two toddlers, so many photos and no time to sit behind computer more than necessary 😀 I'm keeping the raw files to edit once I've reached retirement 😂

  • @grantrobertdavies
    @grantrobertdavies ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video :) Very interesting - Watta great way to process images :) I’ll have to look further into this - Could be a great option for my family portrait ‘mini sessions’ Shoot n Share

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much - it is better than one would imagine, I'm really planning on doubling down on this in-camera workflow!

  • @supergeodotca
    @supergeodotca 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A question:
    I have used this raw image editing with my EM5, Mark II. Are there a lot of differences compared to the om1?
    Thank you

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is pretty much the same, even in older cameras. Best, Thomas

    • @supergeodotca
      @supergeodotca 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThomasEisl.Photography thank you, Thomas

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @supergeodotca welcome!

  • @Jwitherow1964
    @Jwitherow1964 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you ever use teething with the om1. If so can you help us do it.?

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I do that, both via direct app and also via PC. I've put it on my list, now that you've mentioned it! Best, Thomas

  • @godsinbox
    @godsinbox ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. cool. Now Dodge and burn using a stylus?

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be awesome - unfortunately, that's not offered ... yet 🥲

  • @michaelrasmussen3347
    @michaelrasmussen3347 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is OM-1 really €600 more worth than an E-M1 III? Except for the BSI sensor I cannot find any compelling reason to pay €600 more. What am I missing?

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It depends on your needs and budget, but what makes the OM-1 so special:
      1) AF Performance - the new AF system is really impressive, you have to experience it. If you are shooting under very demanding conditions, and I mean conditions under which even the best cameras fail from time to time, then you have to pick the OM-1.
      2) Computing Power - the OM-1 is faster than any camera I've ever used, there is no delay whatsoever. It is really smooth and the computing power is utilized to perform many things just way better than all other M43 cameras, e.g. highres, OVF simulation, ProCapture and much more.
      3) Imaging pipeline - I still don't know what it is exactly, but the combination of sensor, adc and image processor allows the OM-1 to really deliver - is it significantly better than the E-M1III? I don't know as I only had the E-M1II (which it outperforms). Again, seeing is believing, it is impressive.
      4) Control Layout / Handling - I really like the ergonomics, probably my favorite camera in that regard. Perfect E-1 / E-M1X hybrid.
      Without doubt, the OM-1 is the best M43 stills camera currently available - is it worth the extra money or worth upgrading? This really depends on your needs and workflow.
      I'll talk about the OM-1 again in future videos, especially its capabilities in terms of AF and High ISO performance - so if you consider upgrading or getting one, those might help!

  • @ivanmarquez6809
    @ivanmarquez6809 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Thomas, What is the best opción to Om workspace to procesing ORF? I feel in camera raw they lose sharpeness. Thank you

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Ivan!
      Thank you for asking - from what I have tested and from what OM System told me, the files from OM Workspace and in-camera should be identical if you apply the exact same settings. It might be that you accidently changed the sharpness or contrast setting in camera. Also, the resolution setting might be the culprit.

    • @ivanmarquez6809
      @ivanmarquez6809 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem no is in Om workspace, the problem is in camera raw or lightroom, the raw is less sharpening

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! Now I got you - yes, that is true! Without sharpening, the files will be less sharp when developed in LR or CameraRAW!

  • @stehlealexander
    @stehlealexander ปีที่แล้ว

    was haben sie auf c1-c4 gesetzt (Drehrad)? ich habe partielle Farbe & Monochrome. Rest = ?... (Beginner)

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Tatsächlich verwende ich die Custom Einstellungen aktuell nicht - ich finde ihre Idee mit den verschiedenen Picture Modes sehr gut!
      Eventuell könnten sie eine C Funktion für Studio Fotografie, die andere für Sport konfigurieren.

  • @joancanyadas
    @joancanyadas ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, in spanish
    is very interesting for community Omd Spain. tank you

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the suggestion - unfortunately I have no Spanish skills at all.
      So YT auto-translate is all I can offer :-(

    • @joancanyadas
      @joancanyadas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ThomasEisl.Photography YT does not have auto-traslate on Spanish. bat thanks.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, sorry to hear that :-(

  • @petermartinka9274
    @petermartinka9274 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cameras are nice things. Du Thomas, wenn du mit der Zeit in der Wien jemanden kennst, wer in Bäckerei eine Mithilfe brauchte, gib mir wisssen. Ich bin Lehrer der deutschen Sprache hier in der Slowakei, will aber eine andere Richtung versuchen. Mein Hobby ist Brotbacken. Okay. Das wars! Sorry für einen sehr ungewöhnlichen Kommentar. Du kannst löschen. Noch einen schönen Tag wünsche ich. Peter.

    • @ThomasEisl.Photography
      @ThomasEisl.Photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hallo Peter, das ist ja mal ein außergewöhnliches Kommentar - was ich im Kopf habe werden tatsächlich viele Bäcker in Wien gesucht! Schau einfach mal bei Ströck und Bäckerei Schwarz im Internet! LG

    • @petermartinka9274
      @petermartinka9274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThomasEisl.Photography Vor allem, einen herzlichen Dank für die Antwort. Okay. Ich verstehe. Ströck und Schwarz. Siehst du, jetzt bist du nicht nur ein Fotograf, sondern auch eine Arbeitsagentur. :) Schönen Tag noch. Peter.