Maths Olympiad | A Tricky Exponential Equation - Be Careful

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ม.ค. 2025

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  • @nickelbriand
    @nickelbriand 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    faster way : let U = 10^x , we have 1^x + 10^x = 100^x rewritten by 1 + U = U^2 . Solution of 1 + U = U^2 is the golden ratio . so the solution is 10^x = golden ration , so for x , the solution is logbase10 (golden ratio ) . i m not sure the complex solutions were asked

  • @kdmq
    @kdmq 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The complex solution works out to x=-0.209 + i*pi/ln(10) where ln(10) is present to take you from base e to base 10. I omitted the 2*n*i*pi/ln(10) for simplicity.

  • @TheMathManProfundities
    @TheMathManProfundities 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You initially said that you are looking for real numbers and used this to justify 1ˣ = 1 and then later in the calculation decided to let the answers be complex so you actually solved 1 + 10ˣ = 100ˣ not 1ˣ + 10ˣ = 100ˣ.

  • @DavidGetling
    @DavidGetling 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A question that's so easy it wouldn't even make it to the initial exam to select the first pool of a country's candidates!

  • @zawatsky
    @zawatsky 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Область определения. Обе функции являются возрастающими, а значит, можно допустить, что 1^x=1. 10^x:=y, тогда y²-y-1=0. D=5, y=(1±√5)/2=10^x. lgx=lg((1±√5)/2)=lg(1±√5)-lg2. Отсюда х=10^(lg(1±√5)-lg2).

  • @creounity
    @creounity 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    What was the base of log? ln is log /e, lg is log /10, and log is your case -- what base does it have?

    • @justjames27
      @justjames27 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      if a base is not specified, it is assumed to be base 10

    • @creounity
      @creounity 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@justjames27 but log base 10 is written as just "lg" (2 letters), and if so 7:45 if we divide by "lg 10", the denominator will be "lg 10", i.e. 1, therefore we could simply omit it, right? :)

    • @justjames27
      @justjames27 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ ive never seen lg to abbreviate log base 10 personally, and ive always been taught that just log means log base 10

    • @justjames27
      @justjames27 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ but also i havent watched the video fully so i dont know. some other people are suggesting log base 2 but idk

    • @brianwade4179
      @brianwade4179 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@justjames27 Yes, "log" often denotes base 10, but it also sometimes means leaving the base unspecified. The only warning is that if he ever tries to calculate a numerical approximation of his exact answer, he has to use the same log base at every spot he wrote "log." I feel if he had meant base 10, he would have simplified log 10 to be 1. Also, like you, I have never seen "lg" to mean log base 10.

  • @sametkrac404
    @sametkrac404 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The solution to the problem is not very difficult for those who are interested in logarithms

  • @RedAngel11993
    @RedAngel11993 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The presenter forgot that that log10=1 (8::13 instant).

    • @filipposantarelli7787
      @filipposantarelli7787 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a natural log when there is no index...

    • @nottaexpert2690
      @nottaexpert2690 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@filipposantarelli7787 In the US, natural log is ln. Log without a base specified is 10.

    • @RedAngel11993
      @RedAngel11993 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@filipposantarelli7787 No, it is the decimal logarithm when there is no index...

    • @filipposantarelli7787
      @filipposantarelli7787 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @RedAngel11993 it is a convention. I dug up a bit more after the above objection. The consensus seems to be different from what we are both saying, more different from my idea anyway.
      If there is no index and it is not relevant, log without index is a "general" logarithm without base. If it is relevant it is, like you say, base 10. In this case we can assume is not relevant as it is not referring to any "real world" quantity, nor the question asked for anything specific.
      I agree the OP should have clarified it somehow

  • @LeoniloBajao
    @LeoniloBajao 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    log(10)=1.

  • @RealQinnMalloryu4
    @RealQinnMalloryu4 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1^(9)+10^(9)=100 1^(3^2) 1(1^1)+5^5(3^2) 2^3^2^3^(1^1) 2^1^1^3 23(x ➖ 3x+2).

  • @ciaucia156
    @ciaucia156 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    lgΦ

  • @rishimahanot
    @rishimahanot 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    just take antilog at 5:55 , it will save so much time

  • @Segalmed
    @Segalmed 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For starters I get one real solution: x1= lg(0,5+0,5*Sqrt(5))
    If x is real then 1^x = 1.
    Substitute a = 10^x
    => a²-a-1 =0
    => a1,2 = 0,5+/-0,5*Sqrt(5)
    a2 is negative, so 10^x would have to be negative which is not possible for a real value of x, which would also contradict our assumption that 1^x = 1 (which is true only for x being a real number).
    a1 is > 0 so 10^x = a1 has a real solution, namely lg(a1). [lg = log10].
    Not being too good with complex numbers I will not try to pry the complex solution out of the problem an will watch the video instead.

  • @vishnubhat6184
    @vishnubhat6184 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can’t u just approximate log 2 to 0.3

  • @Derfboy
    @Derfboy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:58 aaaaaand I'm lost

  • @atlantasailor1
    @atlantasailor1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chat got can’t solve this.