Aisian ThreeQUISIANS Well I'm not sure that his numbers will be that good in the NFL, but he certainly has a higher ceiling than Case Keenum who despite a great year last year with an exceptional supporting cast is a marginal starter in my opinion.
Jackson...You like the Pat's and LeBron? Front-run much? Oh, and I also love people that have a "second favorite" Football team. Covering all bases. Too funny.
Am I the only one who feels like Klatt would be a way better host that Colin. At least when it comes to football. Klatt actually has reasons when he gives his opinion when Colin seems to say things just for shock factor.
No comparison. Bradford is injury prone but incredibly accurate with a great arm talent, not turnover prone. I'm not saying he's great but Darnold has MAYBE the arm. Bradford was a MUCH better prospect coming out of college.
Ryley Leseberg Bradford was a great prospect coming out, but when you mention a guy He's like, at least make it conparable to the player. Bradford has always had a small frame Darnold does not. Darnold os also more mobile than Bradford could ever dream of.
He has said repeatedly that Sam Darnold should be the #1 overall pick. His primary reasoning on why he thinks that is because he is "thick and trunky."
and Colin goes after Allen and Lamar for having a completion percentage below 60% because there hasn't been a star NFL Qb in like the last 20 years to have a completion percentage below 60 in college. Well guess who also didn't go above 60%? SAM DARNOLD.
Multiple injuries, arrogance off the field, lacks running ability, not great under with RPO 's. That's not nitpicking, that's truth. I like him a lot, he's 2nd on my board but he isn't number one.
best thrower, highest football IQ, ....most pro ready day one... Brady, Rivers flacco, eli cant run...runs as good as brees. the dude played tennis....they aint stationary. Durabilty is THE only red flag, but I watched every game of his. He was blasted by Texas AM both yeras and almostcame back to win both of them. ok, He had no line, no running game, so he had to pass almost every play. he took a lot of hellacious hits and kept.....coming...back...People act like he took himself out of the game everytime he got hit and that wasnt the case...HE IS NUMBER ONE.. but I dont want him goingt to CLEvland so it will work out....The Chargers backing up rivers for 2 years would be the best place
Beyond The Benches money equals attitude n thinking ur better than everyone noone wants to play with a rich preppy white boy who thinks he's better than everyone and has no humble things to him.
MrJBleedge It is pretty small compared to what he made that million into, something like ten billion dollars. That's not something just anybody can do.
UnkownSoldier100 it was 13M, equates to 1/2 a Bil in modern terms.... Trump has squandered so much money ran so many businesses into the ground. The only thing he has had success with is compounding on his fathers real estate.... complete fuckhead
@Cannon Goslin Where you would put Allen though? Because to this point I'm pretty sure he's been outperforming both Darnold and Rosen, helps that he has more wins than either of them as well.
@Cannon Goslin you are clearly biased.. if you think he can only run the ball you are wrong. The reason why he runs so much is because he has NO time or the receivers are just straight being trash like usual. Check out his 75 year bomb against the jags while being rushed by 3 people. Only one of his beatiful passes.
@Cannon Goslin he had 18 TD's, with 1. No Offensive line 2. NO running game other than himself! So they'd play the pass every time. And 3. Terrible receivers. Search up Josh Allen drops. 5 minutes!!!!! Only bills fans know how good he did
it's August 2019. In retrospect, Joe Klatt hit it out of the park on Mayfield. I'm gonna be paying attention to what he has to say in the future. Meanwhile, Colin was dead wrong, as always...
@@joed5207 i'm even a little further and he just threw for 4 pics and is getting threats from his fans and reports are the Browns are going to go in a different direction.
Klatt always brings his A game, love his segments. I like the high end being Brees as well because Klatt is not saying he will be Brees but that his talent can reach a level of Brees. I think Colin at times thinks high end/low end means that they will become that player in the minds of people, its just a scale
Baker set the NCAA record for passing efficiency rating in a season (2017). Say what you want about the kid's personality, but Baker has shown accuracy in college. Saying Drew Brees is his high-end is not blasphemous
I MARKED your words. You were as right as calling tails while flipping a coin and it is still in the air. You'll be about half right and half wrong. That said, your statement is not factual since Allen has not been a bust.
Darnold: Throws to many picks Rosen: Doesnt want to play is in it for money Mayfield: Short and not a pro style offense Allen: Is the most talented Jackson: Is not a QB
Baker Mayfield is not similar as a player to Johnny Manziel at all. Baker is a far more accurate QB than Johnny Manziel was and is way more efficient. Not only that he is a pas first guy as opposed to run first Johnny Manziel. He also is a leader unlike Manziel. Absurd comparison.
Josh Rosen can’t succeed in the nfl. Dude seems really low character, soft what have you. You can’t be a good football player if you don’t need to be. Rich folks play soccer, not football.
To compare Baker Mayfield to Drew Brees is blasphemous. Not even a debate worth having. Joel should have been ashamed of himself for saying such a thing.
jeff tuun Exactly and that is his ceiling. This hype is ridiculous. Rosen’s accuracy is wildly overstated, and he is made of glass. He can barely survive college hits. Rosen doesn’t have a cannon for an arm. Guaranteed average at best with a high probability he won’t be able to get along with arrogant NFL receivers.
If Darnold''s low end WOULD be Andrew Luck, their would be no doubt in anybody's mind, not even in the Browns' weird minds, to take him #1. You could argue Luck would be Darnold's ceiling, but his floor? That's insane.
I’m pretty sure all he was trying to say was that some players in the nfl have to play because they would have no other way of making money he continues to work hard at football even though he could go do something else and make good money which speaks to his love of the game
Baker's accuracy and drive puts him head and shoulders above the rest. Football is about putting the ball safely in the receiver's hands, consistently. It's not a beauty contest.
On Speak For Yourself Joel Klatt defends Josh Allens throwing percentage saying that we shouldn't take that number too much into account. Now he's pointing to Baker's college completion percentage to pad his Drew Brees argument. Come on Klatt man.
Yeah. Drew Brees was no sure thing coming out of college. He was the first pick of the 2nd round. The upside is there for Mayfield because the two share a lot of similarities
Colin, is a walking a contradiction.
Pumped Playa **walking analogy
Pumped Playa you mad bro
Yes
u mad bro
A walking "I don't do mock drafts"
Sam Darnold High end : Silicon Valley
Sam Darnold Low end: Starbucks
Josh Rosen High end: Amazon
Josh Rosen Low end: Divorce
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Aaron B 10/10 lmao
Aaron B immm deadddd lmfaoooo
Aaron B lol
Did that really say Sam Darnolds low end is Andrew Luck? Oh my God.
Adam Gardiner Colin thinks Darnold is already the best quarterback in the NFL.
nmj530 Ridiculous, and then he says that Baker Mayfield's ceiling is Case Keenum.
Romain 40 touchdowns and 8 picks is way better which is what mayfield put up
Aisian ThreeQUISIANS Well I'm not sure that his numbers will be that good in the NFL, but he certainly has a higher ceiling than Case Keenum who despite a great year last year with an exceptional supporting cast is a marginal starter in my opinion.
Luck is a top 5 QB. How the f- is Darnold at the low end a top 5 QB in the NFL. I dont even know if his ceiling could be Andrew Luck.
Klatt schooled Colin again.
Jackson Giard funny to hear Klatt telling Colin & Skip Bayless about contradictions. They both do it regularly.
Jackson...You like the Pat's and LeBron? Front-run much? Oh, and I also love people that have a "second favorite" Football team. Covering all bases. Too funny.
cool story...what's your 5th favorite team?
Klatt pulverized Colin here. Luck is a top 5 QB in the NFL when he's healthy. Absurd saying that the WORST CASE SCENARIO for Darnold.
Am I the only one who feels like Klatt would be a way better host that Colin. At least when it comes to football. Klatt actually has reasons when he gives his opinion when Colin seems to say things just for shock factor.
I love Klatt you can tell this guy lives breathes and dreams about football
Brandon Clark I agree. Except his taken on Saquon Barkley is completely inaccurate.
That is very true
Brandon Clark....yeah he really knows his stuff
Beninthewoods YT what part is not true? He gave out facts...lol
Owen Collins he said he’s not an every down back and more of a receiver. Idk if you’ve ever watched saquon play but he’s way more than that.
Lol look at Baker and Darnold now 😂
Yeah lol ones a top 10 Qb and the others fighting for a starting spot
I still think Baker can reach a high ceiling
@@princepidove7089 who's top 10?
@@steveoshei1819 Baker Before his thousand injuries
@@princepidove7089 lol. never. hes average
Darnolds low end is not andrew luck😂 that’s his high end. His low end is sam Bradford
Fratboy Fitness he's nothing like Bradford?
I agree he seems like a poor mans luck to me as well. Which isn't a bad thing imo
Fratboy Fitness how is his high end being a injury prone loser whose had 3 shoulder surgeries and hasn't played a full season since 2015
No comparison. Bradford is injury prone but incredibly accurate with a great arm talent, not turnover prone. I'm not saying he's great but Darnold has MAYBE the arm. Bradford was a MUCH better prospect coming out of college.
Ryley Leseberg Bradford was a great prospect coming out, but when you mention a guy He's like, at least make it conparable to the player. Bradford has always had a small frame Darnold does not. Darnold os also more mobile than Bradford could ever dream of.
Colin gonna be in the 49ers Draft Room telling John Lynch to draft all of the thick and trunky players
What did Colin say about thick and trunky
He has said repeatedly that Sam Darnold should be the #1 overall pick. His primary reasoning on why he thinks that is because he is "thick and trunky."
😂 broooo
according to Colin, Sam Darnold's Low end is Jesus and his high end is God
and Colin goes after Allen and Lamar for having a completion percentage below 60% because there hasn't been a star NFL Qb in like the last 20 years to have a completion percentage below 60 in college. Well guess who also didn't go above 60%? SAM DARNOLD.
his completion percentage was 65%
kathy kelly it was higher than 60 tho
Rosen was only around 60% Mayfield had insane stats
StevieDcomics Jesus and God are the same person, technically. It's the holy trinity. Jesus, God, and whoever else is in it.
5:07 joel klatt destroys colin’s confidence lmao
Oscar Flores lmfaooooo classic
I feel like Klatt recognizes Colin’s mediocrity
Colin contradicts himself all the time, he changes his opinion every show
Watching this 3 years later and who would’ve guessed it, Joel hit the nail on the head
I love when Klatt calls Colin out and rips him a new one with real honest facts. No bs
I only watch colin to hear what Klatt says.
Klatt is a good football mind, but he just doesn’t like Rosen...
Rafael Maciel Klatt just said he thinks Rosen is the best pure quarterback in this draft
if by amazing you mean obnoxious
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Aaaaand he was right lol
Eli and Peyton Manning grew up in a WEALTHY family, and Cooper doesn't work at McDonald's.
People think all the 1% are millionaires. If you make 125,000 a year, you’re in the 1%
www.cnbc.com/2017/06/12/how-much-you-have-to-earn-to-be-in-the-top-1-percent-in-every-us-state.html
True
Woo-hoo I'm in the one percent
Colin "there is NO bust factor for Darnold".. Klatt "ah no there IS some bust factor with Darnold".. Darnold after 3 seasons - Bust...
So Darnolds floor is Andrew Luck, a pro bowl qb? Ok
I wish that was his floor 😢
Rosen is the best qb in this draft being nitpicked to death
Multiple injuries, arrogance off the field, lacks running ability, not great under with RPO 's. That's not nitpicking, that's truth. I like him a lot, he's 2nd on my board but he isn't number one.
best thrower, highest football IQ, ....most pro ready day one... Brady, Rivers flacco, eli cant run...runs as good as brees. the dude played tennis....they aint stationary. Durabilty is THE only red flag, but I watched every game of his. He was blasted by Texas AM both yeras and almostcame back to win both of them. ok, He had no line, no running game, so he had to pass almost every play. he took a lot of hellacious hits and kept.....coming...back...People act like he took himself out of the game everytime he got hit and that wasnt the case...HE IS NUMBER ONE.. but I dont want him goingt to CLEvland so it will work out....The Chargers backing up rivers for 2 years would be the best place
Ben Ashworth highest IQ? If he does then he should feel the pressure when it comes not stand there like a sitting duck.
Exactly they are tearing this kid down so hard
Ben Ashworth 100% right. They knitpick him by saying hes not a winner but never mention how bad his supporting cast was at UCLA.
Like most White Californians Josh Rosen has a lot of screws loose
I hate when these guys have favorites and guys they hate on so they carry the same opinion over into every debate about them. Colin is the worst at it
Cris carter is worse
LonghornsLegend your first mistake was expecting objectivity on a major us network
good call back then. Darnold was Colins favourite, even Colin now admits 3 years later that he's a bust.
Saying that you shouldn't draft Josh Rosen because his family has money is beyond stupid
Browns better not get stupid and just take him. They're overthinking it. Take the most talented period
They really should but they won't because Allen throws far or Rosen doesn't care enough or something dumb like that
Beyond The Benches money equals attitude n thinking ur better than everyone noone wants to play with a rich preppy white boy who thinks he's better than everyone and has no humble things to him.
Taylor Klock wow what a great stereotype lol
Upside
Rosen: Rodgers
Allen: Stafford
Mayfield: Keenum
Darnold: Winston
Jackson: Vick
Rudolph: Flacco
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Rosen is Ryan Leaf
Allen is John Elway
Mayfield is keenum
Darnold is Rex Grossman
Jackson is Vick
Rudolph is Ben Dinucci
I will never not watch a video with Klatt, guy is pure facts and loves football
Sam Darnold has some of the worst footwork of any of the QBs in this draft
turn over machine in college. let s see in the pros.
@@ricardoabril5380 I'm guessing he still thinks he's playing at USC XD
Josh Rosen is a model for kids. Nobody knows who he is 😂😂😂
matt boss I did but all I watch is football
Big PapiJT I’m just saying these kids that supposedly know about and look up to him are not enough to make Rosen a feasible role model
matt boss more kids look up to lamar jackson
miguel medina well yea a heisman trophy winning is a role model not some snotty rich kid
He was saying in his new position in life going forward he’s a role model. It’s crazy how ppl twists this interview
Looking back at this is hilarious especially with Sam
"I'm not SUPERwealthy :(" is basically Trump saying "My dad gave me a small loan of 1 million dollars".
Completely detached from reality.
MrJBleedge I’m told that it’s a rich guy thing.
MrJBleedge It is pretty small compared to what he made that million into, something like ten billion dollars. That's not something just anybody can do.
UnkownSoldier100 it was 13M, equates to 1/2 a Bil in modern terms.... Trump has squandered so much money ran so many businesses into the ground. The only thing he has had success with is compounding on his fathers real estate.... complete fuckhead
UnkownSoldier100 Just stop.
trumps worth like 4 billion dollars nowhere near 10
to be fair, 50% of LA 20 year olds have this exact personality... theyre all walking contradictions. something in the water here
Daniel Chachanashvili so are evangelical Christians...but go figure
*50% of 20 year olds have this personality.
5:40 Colin has a unique talent to come up with a marriage analogy for everything. It is amazing really.
Sam Darnold will be a bust.
Looking close to that recently, but he still looks better than Rosen with worst weapons.
@Cannon Goslin Where you would put Allen though? Because to this point I'm pretty sure he's been outperforming both Darnold and Rosen, helps that he has more wins than either of them as well.
@Cannon Goslin you are clearly biased.. if you think he can only run the ball you are wrong. The reason why he runs so much is because he has NO time or the receivers are just straight being trash like usual. Check out his 75 year bomb against the jags while being rushed by 3 people. Only one of his beatiful passes.
@Cannon Goslin he had 18 TD's, with 1. No Offensive line 2. NO running game other than himself! So they'd play the pass every time. And 3. Terrible receivers. Search up Josh Allen drops. 5 minutes!!!!! Only bills fans know how good he did
@Cannon Goslin dude our team was way different last yr.. we had a top 3 oline
Looks like he’s gonna have to work at McDonald’s
To be wealthy is not a crime, it's a blessing.
TRUMP: (Thumbs up)
Case keenum is bakers back up lol
Watching this in 2020. Colin is awful at evaluating quarterbacks in college. And very biased in evaluation in the pros
it's August 2019. In retrospect, Joe Klatt hit it out of the park on Mayfield. I'm gonna be paying attention to what he has to say in the future. Meanwhile, Colin was dead wrong, as always...
I'm from the future, Baker has more commercials than wins.
@@luciuspaullus1948 I'm from a little further he's 5-2 and just threw for 5 TDs. Meanwhile, Darnold is looking more and more like Winston.
@@joed5207 i'm even a little further and he just threw for 4 pics and is getting threats from his fans and reports are the Browns are going to go in a different direction.
Welcome to the modern age. Baker is a franchise quarterback for the buccs @@steveoshei1819
Joel Klatt was right about both 🤔 I think he’ll be right about Murray tho
So glad the Bills passed on him
Klatt always brings his A game, love his segments. I like the high end being Brees as well because Klatt is not saying he will be Brees but that his talent can reach a level of Brees. I think Colin at times thinks high end/low end means that they will become that player in the minds of people, its just a scale
I predict Sam Darnold could be trade bait in 2021
And this is why he'll be traded in a few weeks...
Joel Klatt articulates himself really well.
Baker set the NCAA record for passing efficiency rating in a season (2017). Say what you want about the kid's personality, but Baker has shown accuracy in college. Saying Drew Brees is his high-end is not blasphemous
Sam Darnold = Tim Couch.....at best.
Mayfield: 5 tds, 11 picks 2019 so far....
7 TDs 2 picks 2020 so far....
Sophomore slump
Drake Barnett hes been awfully quiet ever since bakers got 7 TDs and 2 INTs
Ë g g you can’t listen to anything Colin says about Baker because he’s probably going to flip flop on it the next week
Drake Barnett He will wait until baker had a bad game (because he’s good but not some superstar) to call him case keenum
Rosen's explanation about the quote "not needing football" in the press conference interview made no sense. Should've left that alone.
Joel crispy cut Klatt
They need to just have the draft already. They're running out of stuff to talk about
I love this show. Colin is so hilarious when he heard klatts comparing Mayfield to Brees. Big, big fan of the show keep it up
Mayfield is the best new QB in the NFL. You can take that to the bank.
Jaslow Parton 😂that dumpster fire misses the playoffs i promise you
@@r.minnis9722 lmao
klatt was so right
About what?
On Darnold being better than Andrew Luck.
I don't get the controversy. If he is the best talent by far you pick him first. Talented qb don't exactly grow on trees.
This aged like fine wine
Klatt needs prayer “Baker Ceiling is Drew Brees” *Every grabs hands and starts praying*
Rosen and Allen will be busts.
Mark my words.
Well, you're looking half right at this point.
I MARKED your words. You were as right as calling tails while flipping a coin and it is still in the air. You'll be about half right and half wrong. That said, your statement is not factual since Allen has not been a bust.
Waiting for his divorce analogy
well this is interesting to watch in 2021
Joel Klatt: Outragous to say Baker is the next Manzel.
Joel Klatt: Baker compares to Drew Brees.
What. LOL 😂
Media doesn’t like it when an athlete is smarter than them, or at least smart enough to hold their ground intellectually
At 4:46 it’s totally the 49ers, because John lunch the general manager of the 49ers used to be Colin’s coworker and they are friends. Go 9ers!!!
They was roastin Colin for that draft room comment lmao
Deeply respected by executives who follow your every mock draft.
Klatt alittle feisty today
This guy knew Rosen was a bust solely on how he carried himself.
Rosen turned out to be a BUST partly because he lacked the capability to relate with his teammates from different backgrounds.
It's kinda funny now that Rosen ended up being a bum.
Darnold: Throws to many picks
Rosen: Doesnt want to play is in it for money
Mayfield: Short and not a pro style offense
Allen: Is the most talented
Jackson: Is not a QB
Best aged comment of all
Baker Mayfield is not similar as a player to Johnny Manziel at all. Baker is a far more accurate QB than Johnny Manziel was and is way more efficient. Not only that he is a pas first guy as opposed to run first Johnny Manziel. He also is a leader unlike Manziel. Absurd comparison.
I honestly think that Rosen's camp isn't not trying to lower his stock in order to slip down past the Browns
People are trying too hard to throw dirt on these kids. Let them enjoy their moment. You're not the one getting drafted.
Colin’s always spot on
Boy this didn’t age well
This man must be getting some extra $$ from the giants or something... hes always negative on rosen... the most talented qb in the draft
Enjoyable viewing that. Klatt and Cowherd are good duo talking football.
I’m convinced that his opinion on baker will never change
This is a classic example of people looking to deep into it. The way I see it he is head and shoulders above ALL of the other quarterbacks.
Colin's floor: Golic. Colin's ceiling: Greenberg
Sounds like Rosen isn’t self-aware at all and might not be that smart.
Joel Klatt
One of the very few Class acts and Intelligent sports commentators in the business. Hands down. Doesnt nearly get enough credit.
Josh Rosen can’t succeed in the nfl. Dude seems really low character, soft what have you. You can’t be a good football player if you don’t need to be. Rich folks play soccer, not football.
To compare Baker Mayfield to Drew Brees is blasphemous. Not even a debate worth having. Joel should have been ashamed of himself for saying such a thing.
Klatt is phenomenal. His knowledge is great for FS1
There‘s one good reason why Mayfield can never reach the Drew Brees‘s level. It‘s his character: too much talk, too much selfconfidence.
Joel is clearly more reliable when it comes to college prospects
Don't overthink this, Klatt.
josh rosen is closer to manziel than mayfield in terms of personality
Joel Klatt: THE MOST logical, critically thinking individual in sports news.
i can't believe he said luck was the floor for darnold
I wish klatt ran this show and had Colin on as a guest every now and then to roast him.
Funny how Baker is ten times better than Case already
I think he will be average in the NFL
jeff tuun Exactly and that is his ceiling. This hype is ridiculous.
Rosen’s accuracy is wildly overstated, and he is made of glass. He can barely survive college hits. Rosen doesn’t have a cannon for an arm.
Guaranteed average at best with a high probability he won’t be able to get along with arrogant NFL receivers.
You think he'll be no better than Andy Dalton?
Rosen, I'm talking about
Romain it’ll be a miracle if he completes td pass
"No bust factor for Darnold" This did not age well
Klatt>herd
Rosen seems like a young guy that needs a healthy dose of harsh reality, something big to happen in his life to humble him and give him focus.
If Darnold''s low end WOULD be Andrew Luck, their would be no doubt in anybody's mind, not even in the Browns' weird minds, to take him #1.
You could argue Luck would be Darnold's ceiling, but his floor?
That's insane.
I’m pretty sure all he was trying to say was that some players in the nfl have to play because they would have no other way of making money he continues to work hard at football even though he could go do something else and make good money which speaks to his love of the game
Baker's accuracy and drive puts him head and shoulders above the rest. Football is about putting the ball safely in the receiver's hands, consistently. It's not a beauty contest.
On Speak For Yourself Joel Klatt defends Josh Allens throwing percentage saying that we shouldn't take that number too much into account. Now he's pointing to Baker's college completion percentage to pad his Drew Brees argument. Come on Klatt man.
Mayfield high end is Brees?! BREES? Oh man.
Battler Ushiromiya what's so wrong with that? The high end is how good somebody could possibly be
Yeah. Drew Brees was no sure thing coming out of college. He was the first pick of the 2nd round. The upside is there for Mayfield because the two share a lot of similarities
Lol what’s wrong with that? 2 candy arm, extremely accurate, efficient QBs. Sounds about as good of a comparison as it can get.
As a Saints fan I can see that, Baker is just as accurate as Drew and would fit perfect behind Sean P.
accurate imp