Mostly they rely on taxpayers to pay for the stadiums too. I can't remember which team but I think it was in the Midwest, when the citizens voted no on using taxes to pay for the new stadium, that owner said he would move the team!
I didn't even know this was thing until recently. How is it legal, let alone ethical to use tax payers money to build stadiums but the profits are kept by the corporation's?
Public funding of stadium deals are all based upon fraudulent numbers & cost cities much more than revealed. A great example is the Jacksonville mayor flying on the team plane to watch the Jags play in London. Now the Jags are getting a new stadium subsidized by taxpayers.
I'm mandated, required to pay $70.00/mo, + $5 for a Xumo cable, Spectrum plan I didn't want or ask for. Xumo is not worth the $$$. Way too many stupid ads.
Worse part is that where they send it (using uk as my example), the people go to watch because it’s different. Ask the average uk person about “American Football” and they laugh at it and ask why they don’t take the pads off… Keep it where it belongs… in the place where its biggest fans are, where the community around it is the strongest. We have the internet and can use it to follow the sport if we enjoy it now. If they want these countries to partake in football, they can create a low end package to enable new fans to watch games…. But $$$.. seems to be their only response
@@mordsythethey use the overseas novelty games to infer there is greater demand than there actually is to leverage more cash. If the league can widen the pool of possible places they can threaten to move to from cities to countries they can really exploit the fans. Seems to be the blueprint going forward for all leagues.
@@philhunt26 I genuinely do not understand how people can be fans of these massive leagues, when the leagues don’t think anything of the fans other than the $$$$ that they can get from them
Bars pay for Sunday ticket based on the number of seats they have. If a bar has 100 seats and the home team is out of the playoffs and only 10 people show up to drink on Sunday morning the bar is screwed. I don’t know if the decision is right but I’m glad the court smacked the NFL
@@Toketree So watching sports on TV makes a life exciting? Have you ever left your zip code? There's a big world out there and don't worry, you won't fall off!
Here's a written summary: _Originally filed in 2015 by the Mucky Duck sports bar, the lawsuit claimed that the league and its teams had conspired to give DirecTV an illegal monopoly on out-of-market games until TH-cam took it over, starting with the 2023 season. The plaintiffs noted that other leagues distributed live, out-of-market games through multiple providers instead of just one exclusive partner like the NFL and argued during the case that the setup not only inflated the price of Sunday Ticket but also forced viewers to pay for games during weeks when their preferred team wasn’t playing._ Sounds like the NFL's anti-trust exemption only deals with over air TV and not pay TV. Lots of complicated lawyer stuff.
@@vw8886I think that's because Bally has local rights to the Rangers games. The individual teams in leagues like the NHL and MLB have their local partners.
Here in the Niagara Peninsula, when satellite TV first came out, local bars showed sports games. The NFL sent lawyers over the border at Buffalo to a bar in Fort Erie that was showing an NFL game, and sued them, saying it was illegal for them to promote it.
My thoughts exactly. $100 Million and the work maybe 3 days of the week tops and only during football season. AND they make profit when their merch sells. And yet, within a few years you hear about a bunch of them claiming bankruptcy. HTF does someone that makes that much money go bankrupt so fast and then gets everything reset when claiming bankruptcy.
@@chorlesteajones6794 they spend it all on drugs and strippers instead of investing. Very few invest in good businesses. Shack has done well, but he is smart about it. I'm against pro sports in general.
The fine should be doubled if the defendant " The NFL" Appeals and loses the Appeal. That way companies won't automatically appeal because there's a huge penalty if you lose your appeal.
While it would help cut down on the amount of frivolous appeals immensely I don’t think an idea like that would ever go through because it would be a block to people an other corporations rights to an appeal with no catches. Courts don’t want to create a situation where someone with a valid appeal situation is afraid to or can’t afford the penalty if their appeal were to fall through for a reason outside of their control
This is how most things are for consumers in the US. It's a take it or leave it. There is no competition corporations simply focus on destroying any possible competition.
Nascar is doing the same crap, moving races from regular tv to FS1. Now NBC is blocking races to only cable channels. I stopped watching nascar 2 years ago.
Dumped Satellite and cable years ago. There is very little that I would find interesting. All those channels and nothing that could keep my interest. The prices are crazy for those services and I'd find myself watching the 3 same channels! $35 for an over the air antenna, and 57 channels at the house. for a one time charge. I can usually find something to watch on the rare occasions I actually turn on the TV. By eliminating cable/ satellite, we found other things to do, far more constructive things to do. TV is not a concern in our house anymore.
@@mrsleep0000 The 4 hours I once spent at a Fiesta Bowl game was one of the longest and loudest assault to my senses, that I thought would NEVER end! And never again was I ever to be subject to that ridiculous BS sport! The Fans were so obnoxious it was gross and sickening!
I totally agree with this lawsuit. And I'm glad they won. It is a bit weird that a bar is worried or defending that the cost is too high for an average consumer. The bar is actually benefiting from the situation because people aren't as willing to pay for their own subscription. instead they will come to the bar to watch.
@@highcheese4429this! who is going to stand up for the general lay person if not this bar? Or other places in the community that can afford lawyers?? They know how it’s affecting fans and their customers too. The price was clearly affecting the businesses too.
@@mrsleep0000the people at bars are pretty close to soulless scumbags who are just out for themselves. (selfish). Getting drunk isn't an altruistic activity. Nor does it make you a better person.
Ya you would think it was regular consumers like me who had directtv for years just to have sunday ticket and then last year find out that it’s on youtubetv for $400 or Some bs. Now i have directtv with no sunday ticket and still have cable for internet. What a mess
I love that it's called the Mucky Duck. I've known British pubs of that name. It's not the most common pub name (that belongs the likes of the Red Lion or the Hope and Anchor etc) but it's made me nostalgic for my younger pub crawl days! I'm delighted to hear they won against the juggernaut of big business.
Yep, you're out of touch..but no worries..I'll bring you up to speed..back in 1999, the NFL had a partnership with direct tv called the Sunday ticket. It let you watch ALL NFL games that were played that day. It was actually great..it was $99..DEFINITELY worth the money..the next year, the same package went to $129..the next year it went to $299 and I stopped subscribing..now it's at like $499 a year, definitely NOT worth the money..well, this was an illegal monopoly and horrible price gouging. The NFL said nuh uh..we didn't do that..a jury found otherwise and they must pay out 4+ billion..the payout could be several thousand for former customers and viewers alike..
@@tommyrobinetti7180 thanks for the explanation! So that means all these networks had to have a deal with direct TV in the first place before getting the deal with the NFL. Why's the Superbowl free to watch? Bc of heavy ad opportunities?
Under copyright laws a business cannot make money off of free programming, which includes selling something while showing a sports ball game. That's why bars has to subscribe to the NFL if they want to show the games.
This report gets a few things wrong. NFL ticket is available through more than one provider. The main argument in the lawsuit isn't that the price is high, it's that the NFL forces the providers to charge a high price even if the provider wants to charge a lower price.
Dude the NFL runs as a non-profit!! And consumers pay hundreds for just parking near the stadium, subscriptions to watch games that used to be free to watch!!! It’s ridiculous!
The NFL is also not making anybody watch the games. I went for many years without watching any of it because it just wasn't part of my life and now I have people in my life that watch so I watch some. And yes, I still think it is pretty boring.
I canceled directtv because they kept adding Sunday ticket to my bill without me requesting it! Disputed every year for 3 years until I canceled the service all together.
It's extortion. In Canada the same thing happens: Team owners blackmail the city, and if they don't get their way, go to the provincial level and make tax payers pay. Happened just recently in Calgary. Four team owners basically EXTORTED the city, and then went prov. and continued. They KNOW the place sells out no matter,
Nfl sucks now good for the bar roger goodell sucks he got the job because he drove the limo for thr formet commisener goodel is a bum who will ne gone soon
1:30 “we disagree with the judgment” is NOT a reason for appeal. There has to be defects in the ruling or the process. If a jury was involved, good luck with the process. Usually, the appeal the amount of the fine.
I don't get it. You could make this argument about any ticket price for any unique entertainment. There is inherently no competition for unique entertainment. If you want to see Taylor Swift you have to pay whatever she charges. There is only one, so she's cornered the market on Taylor Swift. If you want to watch NFL games, you have to pay what they charge. There is only one NFL. The suit is baseless but appealing.
I think you don’t understand anti consumer laws and regulations that’s come with it. But keep protecting a billion dollar company that doesn’t even know you exist!
@@hung8969 I have no stake in the NFL or Taylor Swift, or any of these billion dollar organizations so your attack on me falls flat. I don't spend my money on them. My argument is based on logic and critical thinking. I am in full support of anti-trust laws in general, but don't see how it can work for unique entertainment. You pay what the market will bear for Itzak Perlman, PearlJam, Jamiroquai, Quiet Riot, Riot Grrl etc. As far as I know, the government has not forced Taylor Swift to lower her ticket prices because she is a monopoly. Perhaps you have more up to date information.
I’m from San Diego, so you can imagine how I feel about theNFL. Billionaires who wanted the local citizens to pay for their expensive stadium, that are only used for “real games” 8-9 times a year. Football was part of my family life but as the games I wanted to watch got harder to watch for free, I just quit watching. Won’t pay to watch the Padres anymore either.
I am absolutely giddy over this judgement against the NFL, but I am realistic that the appeals process will more than likely overturn this decision. The NFL has ensure that they have paid off the right people.
That's AT&T's MO, charge you for service you're not receiving, then make it so difficult to get it straightened out, that you give up trying to get the money they stole from you. Oh, and when you signed your Terms and Conditions, you agreed to give up your right to sue, and accept arbitration. That an arbiter of AT&T's choice. DirecTV was a pretty good deal until AT&T got involved. I was with DTV from the start, every move, never a complaint. 1st week AT&T had them, I was done. Account closed!
I feel like I stepped into this bar in the morning when I decided I didn’t want to be sober. I think I was hungover because the darkness was most welcome.
@@apartmenta4439 The NFL is selling a luxury product. It's not a necessity like food, water or power. You think the government should step in whenever someone thinks they're paying too much for a luxury item? Imagine setting up a lemonade stand on a 100 degree day. You decide that, for it to be worth the effort of sitting in that heat, you wanted $8 per glass. Some Karen doesn't like this. Should she get the government to tell you to charge $1? Is that right? It's YOUR lemonade. Most likely, you'll leave the market. Then none gets your lemonade.
I get suing them, but billions of dollars are absolutely unacceptable. I can understand the loss of revenue and possibly getting their money refunded. People really don't understand what lawsuits like this are doing to our country and the economy. It makes me sick watching frivolous lawsuits being filled all over the country and people winning these absorbant amounts of money. At some point, a line needs drawn. I can't believe this is real. Sueing someone because their services are too expensive and only one company in their area is offering that service. Somehow, that makes them liabke for a 4-5 billion dollar lawsuit? If that doesn't sound crazy to you, then you're part of the problem with this country.
This is why ive been pirating NFL games for years with zero remorse. If they dont want to sell it for a moral price then i feel no remorse for stealing it
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Fleecing the public to pay for stadiums ain't enough for them.
Mostly they rely on taxpayers to pay for the stadiums too. I can't remember which team but I think it was in the Midwest, when the citizens voted no on using taxes to pay for the new stadium, that owner said he would move the team!
I didn't even know this was thing until recently. How is it legal, let alone ethical to use tax payers money to build stadiums but the profits are kept by the corporation's?
@@testing6753 the cities and citizens benefit from having the games in their cities.
@@jamisojoyeah.. and the owners literally raking in all the profit somehow DONT also benefit from THE BUSINESS THEY CHOSE TO GO INTO??? 👍🤡🤡🤡
Public funding of stadium deals are all based upon fraudulent numbers & cost cities much more than revealed. A great example is the Jacksonville mayor flying on the team plane to watch the Jags play in London. Now the Jags are getting a new stadium subsidized by taxpayers.
The entire cable industry operates illegally. Many areas are monopolies where you have no choice of providers.
The thinking with cable monopolies is that the companies have huge investments in infrastructure and need to recoup those costs.
@@patrickmaloney1810 nah.
@@santosdr2 Yes, that is the justification.
@@patrickmaloney1810 no
I'm mandated, required to pay $70.00/mo, + $5 for a Xumo cable, Spectrum plan I didn't want or ask for. Xumo is not worth the $$$. Way too many stupid ads.
F the NFL!
What about OPP?
You beat me to it I couldn’t agree more
@@aye54 what about your mom?
You can watch this shittee sport in pirated channels on the internet why even pay to watch this krapp
buy their product, or don't. It's a free country, until January.
The anti-trust law is now being used to challenge Ticketmaster. Lets hope for a similar ruling there.
Ticketmaster SUCKS !
The only thing “protecting” ticket master is the fact that they don’t set the price, they just pad it.
I feel pretty optimistic about that actually
THANKS BIDEN!!
Agreed we can only hope let’s circle a wagons. Let’s call them out.
Screw the NFL. And moving games overseas from the very communities they blackmail is disgusting.
I'll drink to that!
Worse part is that where they send it (using uk as my example), the people go to watch because it’s different.
Ask the average uk person about “American Football” and they laugh at it and ask why they don’t take the pads off…
Keep it where it belongs… in the place where its biggest fans are, where the community around it is the strongest.
We have the internet and can use it to follow the sport if we enjoy it now.
If they want these countries to partake in football, they can create a low end package to enable new fans to watch games….
But $$$.. seems to be their only response
@@mordsythethey use the overseas novelty games to infer there is greater demand than there actually is to leverage more cash. If the league can widen the pool of possible places they can threaten to move to from cities to countries they can really exploit the fans. Seems to be the blueprint going forward for all leagues.
@@philhunt26 I genuinely do not understand how people can be fans of these massive leagues, when the leagues don’t think anything of the fans other than the $$$$ that they can get from them
Bars pay for Sunday ticket based on the number of seats they have. If a bar has 100 seats and the home team is out of the playoffs and only 10 people show up to drink on Sunday morning the bar is screwed.
I don’t know if the decision is right but I’m glad the court smacked the NFL
You answered my question just as I was typing it. Thank you. Per seat license. Makes sense.
Your absolutely right.
How much are we talking about?
What about having to pay for boxing matches? Bars have been doing that for years. Strange lawsuit
Playoff games aren't on Sunday Ticket. They're on regular TV
Price gouging NFL.
They'll blame inflation.
Unless they're conservatives. Then, they'll blame Biden.
@michaelccopelandsr7120 what?
@traybern😂😂🐴💩💩💩
@@michaelccopelandsr7120👈 A pedophile supporter
@@michaelccopelandsr7120he’s talking about conservative, soul less robots.
That's why I haven't watch sport for over 25 years. Its all business and they don't care about their fans.
damn you really showed them
@@billstreet5043 It's a personal statement. More than you've done, lemming!
Your life must be pretty boring lmao
@@Toketree So watching sports on TV makes a life exciting? Have you ever left your zip code? There's a big world out there and don't worry, you won't fall off!
@@billstreet5043 He made a personal statement. More than a lemming like does.
Lose a million dollar lawsuit. It’s your problem. Lose a billion dollar lawsuit. It’s their problem.
Greed!
Its the American way 😂😂
Here's a written summary:
_Originally filed in 2015 by the Mucky Duck sports bar, the lawsuit claimed that the league and its teams had conspired to give DirecTV an illegal monopoly on out-of-market games until TH-cam took it over, starting with the 2023 season. The plaintiffs noted that other leagues distributed live, out-of-market games through multiple providers instead of just one exclusive partner like the NFL and argued during the case that the setup not only inflated the price of Sunday Ticket but also forced viewers to pay for games during weeks when their preferred team wasn’t playing._
Sounds like the NFL's anti-trust exemption only deals with over air TV and not pay TV. Lots of complicated lawyer stuff.
I can only get the TX Rangers games on Bally is that the same thing?
@@vw8886 No. Bally's is available with different providers. Sunday Ticket was only available on DirecTV.
@@vw8886I think that's because Bally has local rights to the Rangers games. The individual teams in leagues like the NHL and MLB have their local partners.
Smart , well articulate lawyers and their staff do well on both sides .
Here in the Niagara Peninsula, when satellite TV first came out, local bars showed sports games. The NFL sent lawyers over the border at Buffalo to a bar in Fort Erie that was showing an NFL game, and sued them, saying it was illegal for them to promote it.
Why Canadian like American football? Don’t y’all have your own football league?
@@chuckxu5910
Fort Erie is, like, 450 yards from Buffalo. I'm surprised at your surprise.
@@SpeckleKen y’all ain’t American, but trying to look like America🇺🇸
@@chuckxu5910
Why on earth would anyone try to look like an American in this day and age?! Wrong. Just wrong.
@@chuckxu5910 Thank goodness I don't look like a fat ass American that has health issues.
When players make $100 million and fans and businesses struggle, yeah, F the NFL
How much do you think the owners of NFL teams are earning?
Lmao why would they owe you any money ?
When the tax payers are the ones footing the majority of the bill to pay for a stadium.... when the owners and players make all the profit from it
My thoughts exactly. $100 Million and the work maybe 3 days of the week tops and only during football season. AND they make profit when their merch sells. And yet, within a few years you hear about a bunch of them claiming bankruptcy. HTF does someone that makes that much money go bankrupt so fast and then gets everything reset when claiming bankruptcy.
@@chorlesteajones6794 they spend it all on drugs and strippers instead of investing. Very few invest in good businesses. Shack has done well, but he is smart about it. I'm against pro sports in general.
The fine should be doubled if the defendant " The NFL" Appeals and loses the Appeal. That way companies won't automatically appeal because there's a huge penalty if you lose your appeal.
While it would help cut down on the amount of frivolous appeals immensely I don’t think an idea like that would ever go through because it would be a block to people an other corporations rights to an appeal with no catches. Courts don’t want to create a situation where someone with a valid appeal situation is afraid to or can’t afford the penalty if their appeal were to fall through for a reason outside of their control
This is how most things are for consumers in the US. It's a take it or leave it. There is no competition corporations simply focus on destroying any possible competition.
DELETE YOUR CABLE PROVIDER and see how fast prices go DOWN. Get rid of your cable for a year and you’ll NEVER want to pay again for CRAP.
Havent had cable in 25 yrs or so and didnt miss it.😊
Nascar is doing the same crap, moving races from regular tv to FS1. Now NBC is blocking races to only cable channels. I stopped watching nascar 2 years ago.
Dumped Satellite and cable years ago. There is very little that I would find interesting. All those channels and nothing that could keep my interest. The prices are crazy for those services and I'd find myself watching the 3 same channels! $35 for an over the air antenna, and 57 channels at the house. for a one time charge. I can usually find something to watch on the rare occasions I actually turn on the TV. By eliminating cable/ satellite, we found other things to do, far more constructive things to do. TV is not a concern in our house anymore.
Defund the nfl 👎
Not how corporations work. An I'm concerned on your grasp of politics as well...
@@deadwingdomain are you high? It's a joke. You defund them by not "buying" their product or buying their merchandise. nfl = Not For Long
They should not receive a penny of public funds. They are a fully for profit private corporation with not public benefit or service.
@@deadwingdomain I assume they meant to not pay the prices and not watch.
Football is fucking stupid. All about money.
Welcome to the United States. God bless America
I have always said that "In God We Trust" should be changed to "In Money We Trust". That's a far more accurate motto for the United States.
I stopped following pro sports when they went woke.
All rigged
@@Ori0n1975 😆 🤣 😂 What the hell does that mean. The MLB isn't woke
There's 12 minutes of action in a football game. Y'all worship these men. 12 minutes, 12 frickin minutes . No thanks.
And it takes 4 f'in hours to present that 12 minutes to you. Just a big scam to sell ads.
@@mrsleep0000 The 4 hours I once spent at a Fiesta Bowl game was one of the longest and loudest assault to my senses, that I thought would NEVER end! And never again was I ever to be subject to that ridiculous BS sport! The Fans were so obnoxious it was gross and sickening!
That's 11 more minutes than they themselves last... Must be why they look up to them.
still better than soccer baseball basketball or whatever u watch
@@_elchaka First of all, I'll say I did not say football was bad.
I said it's 12 minutes. Twelve fricken minutes.
Over 90 per month that is like 1000 per year for football no thanks
Football isn’t played year round.
Only for 5 months of the year it’s that price.
I see math is not your strong suit😂😂😂😂😂
Does the football season last all year?
That's what I pay as a UFC fan too.
Crazy.
The NFL will simply find the right court, judge, SCOTUS, to never pay a dime of this lawsuit
How much of those billions will actually get paid and to who? What a joke the legal system has become.
Legal system works just fine. Get over it
To the lawyers to be sure.
To the lawyers. Everyone else will get a $20 coupon towards NFL Sunday Ticket.
So you don't know who it goes to but have decided it's a joke anyway?
They sue the big guys but when a smaller company does it everyone goes to prison for 10 years !!
They didn;t do anything illegal. Their product, their price.
I totally agree with this lawsuit. And I'm glad they won. It is a bit weird that a bar is worried or defending that the cost is too high for an average consumer. The bar is actually benefiting from the situation because people aren't as willing to pay for their own subscription. instead they will come to the bar to watch.
People will show up to the bar either way
@@highcheese4429this! who is going to stand up for the general lay person if not this bar? Or other places in the community that can afford lawyers?? They know how it’s affecting fans and their customers too. The price was clearly affecting the businesses too.
And not everyone is a soulless scumbag just out for themselves...
@@mrsleep0000the people at bars are pretty close to soulless scumbags who are just out for themselves. (selfish).
Getting drunk isn't an altruistic activity. Nor does it make you a better person.
Ya you would think it was regular consumers like me who had directtv for years just to have sunday ticket and then last year find out that it’s on youtubetv for $400 or Some bs. Now i have directtv with no sunday ticket and still have cable for internet. What a mess
It’s not just the bars that are being screwed.
It is also the subscription prices for fans that are a reflection of insatiable greed.
Greed is not illegal. Don't like their price then don't watch.
One provider, one price is a monopoly
I love that it's called the Mucky Duck. I've known British pubs of that name. It's not the most common pub name (that belongs the likes of the Red Lion or the Hope and Anchor etc) but it's made me nostalgic for my younger pub crawl days! I'm delighted to hear they won against the juggernaut of big business.
Sorry wet brain scum.
I don't even care no more 😢
any more
Looks like multi million dollar bonus are not going out this year and I hope direct TV goes bankrupt as they charge way too much for the basics.
It seems that the guidelines for what an exclusive national provider is allowed to charge for an event should be more clear.
Serves the NFL right !
I must be out of touch. I thought the NFL games were played on regular channels with ads?!? Why do you need to pay for a "ticket?"
Yep, you're out of touch..but no worries..I'll bring you up to speed..back in 1999, the NFL had a partnership with direct tv called the Sunday ticket. It let you watch ALL NFL games that were played that day. It was actually great..it was $99..DEFINITELY worth the money..the next year, the same package went to $129..the next year it went to $299 and I stopped subscribing..now it's at like $499 a year, definitely NOT worth the money..well, this was an illegal monopoly and horrible price gouging. The NFL said nuh uh..we didn't do that..a jury found otherwise and they must pay out 4+ billion..the payout could be several thousand for former customers and viewers alike..
@@tommyrobinetti7180 thanks for the explanation! So that means all these networks had to have a deal with direct TV in the first place before getting the deal with the NFL. Why's the Superbowl free to watch? Bc of heavy ad opportunities?
Under copyright laws a business cannot make money off of free programming, which includes selling something while showing a sports ball game. That's why bars has to subscribe to the NFL if they want to show the games.
This is good news indeed!
My local bar won’t buy NFL Ticket because they said it was cost prohibitive at thousands of dollars.
Lol, the profit margins on booze are out of this world.
Xfinity is next..😅
Impossible. There is no monopoly anymore since you can buy the same thing online now.
@@HKim0072 It was a joke
This report gets a few things wrong. NFL ticket is available through more than one provider. The main argument in the lawsuit isn't that the price is high, it's that the NFL forces the providers to charge a high price even if the provider wants to charge a lower price.
THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT 😳
Corporations Love People 😊
... oh, they love just their money, when did that start happening
What is the name of the lawyer firm that want you this case?
Saul Goodman.
@@travelghost099Anh Phoong doesn’t Anhswer da Phoong…
The Barnes Firm
Well whoever he is he's Jewish, which is frowned upon ironically with some war going on
"Whee Cheetum & Howe"!
If everyone just stopped supporting the NFL, maybe the fans could actually watch the game for free again. I hate the NFL. So greedy
Dude the NFL runs as a non-profit!! And consumers pay hundreds for just parking near the stadium, subscriptions to watch games that used to be free to watch!!! It’s ridiculous!
We don’t even bother with them anymore
NFL relinquished its nonprofit status in 2016. But even so, this is ridiculous. I’m really happy the small business won this one.😊
The NFL is also not making anybody watch the games.
I went for many years without watching any of it because it just wasn't part of my life and now I have people in my life that watch so I watch some. And yes, I still think it is pretty boring.
If you think the NFL is non profit I have some swamp land for sale..
$4.7 B. Utterly ridiculous.
Imagine how much money the NFL loses off the books.
Something happened in Atlanta where the Braves games are no longer televised locally. I’m sure money is behind that as well.
There's a think where they black out local games if they don't sell enough tickets for the live audience. It's a type of extortion.
I canceled directtv because they kept adding Sunday ticket to my bill without me requesting it! Disputed every year for 3 years until I canceled the service all together.
Funny how people think the NFL will end up paying even 2% of this judgement. They will appeal and get it drastically reduced.
Someone has to pay for $10 million per year salaries, and $4 Billion stadiums....
It's extortion. In Canada the same thing happens: Team owners blackmail the city, and if they don't get their way, go to the provincial level and make tax payers pay. Happened just recently in Calgary. Four team owners basically EXTORTED the city, and then went prov. and continued. They KNOW the place sells out no matter,
Jury made the right decision.
Best thing I ever heard coming out of San Francisco
The lawyers won the lottery.
Nfl sucks now good for the bar roger goodell sucks he got the job because he drove the limo for thr formet commisener goodel is a bum who will ne gone soon
4,700 millions.. millions
Give me 1
Just one please
No one forced them to buy it!
Who watches the NFL anymore?!
We do. We pay for the package, it's worth every peso.
Millions of people
Now the duck can afford to clean itself so it won't be mucky anymore.
Now named the Lucky Duck Bar.
1:30 “we disagree with the judgment” is NOT a reason for appeal. There has to be defects in the ruling or the process. If a jury was involved, good luck with the process. Usually, the appeal the amount of the fine.
There is actually a bar open in San Francisco? I wonder how much longer they stay open as the rest of the businesses are leaving the area.
this is why i love IMSA, WEC, GT racing. they all release full races, esp the important endurance races
I doubt there's a bar that won a ftc case or a NFL and Sunday ticket case.
Wait...I didn't know I could sue for billions...🤔
I don't associate with individuals that consume NFL nor NASCAR....
But like those into tofu and soy?
It’s a monopoly and absolutely inflated price gouging!
Don't forget, SCOTUS has ruled it is legal for the NFL to give the appeals judge "gratuity" for ruling in their favor.
Citation required.
This pay to watch sports alienates half the country. How about a class action lawsuit on behalf of the poor?!
I don't get it. You could make this argument about any ticket price for any unique entertainment. There is inherently no competition for unique entertainment. If you want to see Taylor Swift you have to pay whatever she charges. There is only one, so she's cornered the market on Taylor Swift. If you want to watch NFL games, you have to pay what they charge. There is only one NFL. The suit is baseless but appealing.
It’s not even what Taylor charges because Ticketmaster adds a hundo in fees
I think you don’t understand anti consumer laws and regulations that’s come with it. But keep protecting a billion dollar company that doesn’t even know you exist!
@@hung8969 I have no stake in the NFL or Taylor Swift, or any of these billion dollar organizations so your attack on me falls flat. I don't spend my money on them. My argument is based on logic and critical thinking. I am in full support of anti-trust laws in general, but don't see how it can work for unique entertainment. You pay what the market will bear for Itzak Perlman, PearlJam, Jamiroquai, Quiet Riot, Riot Grrl etc. As far as I know, the government has not forced Taylor Swift to lower her ticket prices because she is a monopoly. Perhaps you have more up to date information.
Pro sports is one of the biggest scams going.
no.... ticket sales are the biggest scams going on today .......
I’m from San Diego, so you can imagine how I feel about theNFL. Billionaires who wanted the local citizens to pay for their expensive stadium, that are only used for “real games” 8-9 times a year. Football was part of my family life but as the games I wanted to watch got harder to watch for free, I just quit watching. Won’t pay to watch the Padres anymore either.
Thank you guys
Based on recent SCOTUS decisions, I would be shocked if the decision was reversed and the bard was forced to pay.
The NFL crooked? Nahhh.....
Turns out there are thousands of better things to do on a Sunday afternoon and evening, a Monday night and a Thursday night. F the NFL.
Woo-Hoo! I hope we will be getting some of that money back now!
A typical bar pays $6,000 a season for the NFL package. 😮
If only NFL was held accountable for keeping old players’ who suffered CTE a secret.
Screw live sports. Uncomfortable, loud, expensive, crowded, inconvenient
I am absolutely giddy over this judgement against the NFL, but I am realistic that the appeals process will more than likely overturn this decision. The NFL has ensure that they have paid off the right people.
I’m sorry but 4 billion??? Why so much? That is not just coming out of an overlords pocket. Regular people are going to feel that payout.
Direct TV was charging us for that subscription even though we never ordered it.
That's AT&T's MO, charge you for service you're not receiving, then make it so difficult to get it straightened out, that you give up trying to get the money they stole from you. Oh, and when you signed your Terms and Conditions, you agreed to give up your right to sue, and accept arbitration. That an arbiter of AT&T's choice. DirecTV was a pretty good deal until AT&T got involved. I was with DTV from the start, every move, never a complaint. 1st week AT&T had them, I was done. Account closed!
Don’t mess with a jury boiiiiii
Isn’t the Sunday ticket around 350$?Expensive for a home, yes. Not for a business
The $4.7 billion dollar lawsuit we lost is baseless and without merit. Translation: We can pay a judge less than that to overturn it.
Churches don't really get bribed in the United States. The Earth is also not flat.
They'll go to Texas, where big corporations win lawsuits.
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Are you talking about Clarence Thomas here ?
I love when corporate gets their ass handed to them.
Now TH-camTV is the only source for NFL Sunday Ticket. And it still costs >$300 per year.
The NFL sucks big time!! It’s not what it used to be years ago!
Next thing we know, "you have 6 months to claim your 500 from a class action lawsuit"
More like your 500 toward an NFL subscription. But I doubt it will be anywhere near 500.
Corruption and evil has infiltrated every form of Human activity...
Greed is destroying this country
Listen I hate California but I want to go to this bar, this bar is fighting for America!!!
Good for the Mucky Duck 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This will make games more expensive and harder to watch, I guarantee it. Thx a lot.
I feel like I stepped into this bar in the morning when I decided I didn’t want to be sober. I think I was hungover because the darkness was most welcome.
Hopefully the NFL pays
Take away their non-profit status, they are clearly for profit.
They should be able to charge whatever they want with any business model they prefer. Nobody needs cable tv or the NFL to survive. Deal with it.
Imagine having a garage sale and a lawyer stops by and tells you what you're allowed to charge for your goods.
Imagine if you made an analogy that made sense
@@apartmenta4439 The NFL is selling a luxury product. It's not a necessity like food, water or power. You think the government should step in whenever someone thinks they're paying too much for a luxury item?
Imagine setting up a lemonade stand on a 100 degree day. You decide that, for it to be worth the effort of sitting in that heat, you wanted $8 per glass.
Some Karen doesn't like this. Should she get the government to tell you to charge $1? Is that right? It's YOUR lemonade. Most likely, you'll leave the market. Then none gets your lemonade.
Mucky Ducky would of been better name. 😂
I get suing them, but billions of dollars are absolutely unacceptable. I can understand the loss of revenue and possibly getting their money refunded. People really don't understand what lawsuits like this are doing to our country and the economy. It makes me sick watching frivolous lawsuits being filled all over the country and people winning these absorbant amounts of money. At some point, a line needs drawn. I can't believe this is real. Sueing someone because their services are too expensive and only one company in their area is offering that service. Somehow, that makes them liabke for a 4-5 billion dollar lawsuit? If that doesn't sound crazy to you, then you're part of the problem with this country.
This is why ive been pirating NFL games for years with zero remorse. If they dont want to sell it for a moral price then i feel no remorse for stealing it
Why do t they state the cost of viewing that game ?