Gilbert Arenas' INSANE Kobe Take Sets Off Gil's Arena

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  • @YoItsTEE
    @YoItsTEE 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +332

    Let me help yall out
    2000 Finals
    Shaq - 38pts 17rebs 3blks
    Kobe - 16pts 4rebs 4ast
    2001 Finals
    Shaq - 33pts 16rebs 3blks 5ast
    Kobe - 25pts 8rebs 6ast
    2002 Finals
    Shaq - 36pts 12rebs 3blks 4ast
    Kobe - 27pts 6rebs 5ast

    • @kjefferson5
      @kjefferson5 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      this needs to be pinned

    • @lav7161
      @lav7161 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      That's a lot of assists for Kobe

    • @jaygainer7955
      @jaygainer7955 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      Kobe got hurt Jalen rosed first finals and won two games in that finals it’s all there you can look it up just like you look this shit !

    • @jaygainer7955
      @jaygainer7955 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

      Funny how you showing Shaq’s bloccs but not Kobe’s steals ! Do you know who Kobe is guarding in comparison to who Shaq is guarding ? Do yall even know any centers from 2000-2010? Like fr answer this shit and not goggle dumb shit

    • @johniferhall7253
      @johniferhall7253 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

      @@YoItsTEE now post the playoff stats en route to the finals. The East conference has always bn bullshit. Post those numbers vs spurs kings n blazers. I'll wait. Cuz that's where the real competition was at. In the west. The finals was always a foregone conclusion.

  • @TheMajesticGG
    @TheMajesticGG 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +470

    I think any player from any era would be 2nd option to Shaq in 2000, he was the best player in the world that year.

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      Thank you !!! That’s the whole point of the argument so if mj played next Shaq he still losing the finals mvp but they don’t talk about that

    • @HMFitGaming
      @HMFitGaming 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      They wouldnt win 3 in a row though thats fasho we not gonna ignore kobes clutchness and defense

    • @yowder
      @yowder 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Facts

    • @cwhitt8110
      @cwhitt8110 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯Wtf is mf's talking about? Shaq was the best player in the NBA when Jordan retired. Shaq Won all Finals MVP'S on the 3 peat😂😂😂😂

    • @stephenjones9686
      @stephenjones9686 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Kobe was Michael Jackson and Shaq was Tito Jackson for the Lakers respectfully.

  • @oillizm
    @oillizm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +752

    So emotional. Everybody knew Shaq was the most dominant force, he was Batman and there's no dispute.

    • @xdxbxx
      @xdxbxx 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +84

      on your kids life kobe was Batman

    • @RealParadox85
      @RealParadox85 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +85

      1A and 1B. So yeah Superman and Batman MAYBE

    • @BLVCKSTVR_YT
      @BLVCKSTVR_YT 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

      He was superman by his own admittance. Kobe was batman. Average build and out worked everyone.
      Fun fact Kobe in that second title run was better than LeBron and kd in their 2nd title runs.

    • @OriginalRizz-JxR
      @OriginalRizz-JxR 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      Shaq was superman Kobe was batman

    • @jamariwalker2435
      @jamariwalker2435 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@xdxbxx that’s crazy 😂 but calling Kobe robin is 🤢 🤮

  • @josephmartin2729
    @josephmartin2729 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    1 Shaq was definitely numero uno in a 3 chips
    2 On the Dirk ring argument. A great team can over power a couple of stars. Like Pistons beating LA. It's rare but if constructed right, it's possible.

    • @unlimitedpearl
      @unlimitedpearl 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s what I wish they would’ve brought up, all the pistons teams that won, olajuwon & dirk

    • @davis2k1234
      @davis2k1234 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      2004 Pistons had 4 All Star caliber players see the 2006 All Star game the “Pistons lineup” wins it for the East they were the better team then 04 Lakers in 2011 Heat were the far better team

    • @jaydubb2005
      @jaydubb2005 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Stats below clearly show and prove that Kobe and Shaq shared leadership responsibilities and took turns destroying their opponents just like Magic and Kareem.
      #2000 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 21ppg 4reb 4ast
      * Kobe led in scoring 6x
      * Shaq led in scoring 16x
      O’Neal led the team in scoring 16 games during the playoffs with games scoring 46, 43, 41, 41, 40 plus eight other 30 point games. Bryant proved his offensive and defensive (All Defense) skill leading the team in scoring six times with highs being 35, 33, 32 and 32 again at the age of 21. 😂
      ____
      #2001 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 29ppg 7reb 6ast
      * Kobe led in scoring 8x
      * Shaq led in scoring 8x
      Through this playoff run Shaq led the team in scoring in eight games scoring 30 points or better seven times and 40 points three times. Kobe on the other hand was (All Defense) and led the team in scoring in eight games, scoring 30 points or more in seven games and two games over 40 including the team playoff high of 48 points at the age of 22. 😂
      ____
      #2002 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 28ppg 12reb 2ast
      Kobe 26ppg 5reb 4ast
      * Kobe led in scoring 10x
      * Shaq led in scoring 9x
      O’Neal was the team scoring leader in nine playoff games, eight times scoring 30 or more points.
      Kobe was (All Defense) and led the team in ten playoff games, six times scoring 30 or more points at the age of 23. 😂

  • @GeorgeChippyDoyle
    @GeorgeChippyDoyle 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    Shaq averaged: 34-14-3 as a laker in the finals.
    Kobe averaged: 25-6-5 as a laker in the finals.
    Shaq was him man. Kobe was a killer too but Shaq was the man.

    • @CommonNotCommon24-7
      @CommonNotCommon24-7 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      💯💯💯💯🫡

    • @jaydubb2005
      @jaydubb2005 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      #2000 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 21ppg 4reb 4ast
      * Kobe led scoring 6x
      * Shaq led scoring 16x
      ______
      #2001 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 29ppg 7reb 6ast
      * Kobe led scoring 8x
      * Shaq led in scoring 8x
      ______
      #2002 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 28ppg 12reb 2ast
      Kobe 26ppg 5reb 4ast
      * Kobe led scoring 10x
      * Shaq led scoring 9x

    • @Saviiq
      @Saviiq 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shaq was super dominant

    • @magicbryant8
      @magicbryant8 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Check the first 3 rounds before the Finals. Kobe carried them through the playoffs and let Shaq eat weak East Centers alive.

    • @DuckThePoet
      @DuckThePoet 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kobe accounted for more points js

  • @northsidecj
    @northsidecj 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +401

    Kobe was Batman , Shaq was Superman.
    They both dominated TOGETHER.

    • @kingmack-w6p
      @kingmack-w6p 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      agreed

    • @rshemarr
      @rshemarr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      This is a great take!

    • @doubleAgent_003
      @doubleAgent_003 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      Kobe was aquaman, Shaq was Superman ** fixed it

    • @xNEWxGODxFLOxx
      @xNEWxGODxFLOxx 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      💯💯💯

    • @terrellbaker1660
      @terrellbaker1660 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Who was more powerful, Superman or Batman? Exactly.

  • @woketv781
    @woketv781 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +200

    Many people don't know Kobe played better in the earlier playoff rounds. Kobe was more reliable in the 4th and closed out games. calling him Robin is selling kobe short. The Duo was More like Batman (Kobe) Assisting Superman (Shaq) on a mission.

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      The analogy is both wrong and cringey. It extrapolates a few minutes of better value and acts like it’s equal to 46 minutes of better.value. The same people who claim the 2000 finals (for example) put Kobe on level ground with Shaq because of his clutch play in Game 4 will ignore that Shaq won games 1 and 2 with Kobe averaged 7 PPG 😂

    • @Kwasi-kc5ej
      @Kwasi-kc5ej 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@@hardwoodthought1213Kobe got hurt by Jalen intentionally. 2000 ring was all Shaq but 01 and 02 were up in the air

    • @woketv781
      @woketv781 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@hardwoodthought1213 46 mins of great play is worth nothing when u lose at the end. When you're a liability at the free throw , Can't guard the pick N Roll to save your life, and Probably got 5 fouls going on 6.

    • @woketv781
      @woketv781 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@hardwoodthought1213 besides the 2000 playoff run. Kobe Was On par with Shaq in the 01 and 02 playoffs. Honestly, U can argue In 2001 Kobe had Better playoff run than Shaq from an Overall standpoint.

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@woketv781Except we know for a fact that if you play great for 46 minutes you can either simply win the game already or even if it needs clutch play that can be provided by others, Kobes ability to perform in the clutch doesn’t happen if you don’t keep it close for 46 minutes of a game

  • @iKnowBall2k
    @iKnowBall2k 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +407

    Never forget Kobe is the only player in NBA History to win BACK2BACK championships without a Top75 teammate... & the only player in NBA history to beat 4 different 50+ win teams in a single postseason without a Top75 teammate

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

      Thank you and almost 3 peated if it wasn’t for injuries!!

    • @mawclw2003
      @mawclw2003 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      That’s not true!

    • @gloryroad7452
      @gloryroad7452 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Yeah you capping😂😂😂

    • @Amanda-ue6kk
      @Amanda-ue6kk 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Don’t tell this to lechoke fans they’d cry

    • @bloqboy555
      @bloqboy555 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      almost pulled a 3peat wit no help omm Kobe da goat😭n da CP3 trade dat got vetoed da league aint wanna see Kobe win no mo 🤦🏿‍♂real recognize real let dem goofys fw goofys

  • @davidbuck2499
    @davidbuck2499 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Gil would not be talking this krazy about Kobe if he was alive keep it real

    • @bowevanko450
      @bowevanko450 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      kobe would probably agree shaq was first option if he were alive

  • @mdp5775
    @mdp5775 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    During their 3-peat
    Shaq: 35.9 PPG - 15.2 RPG - 3.5 APG - 0.7 SPG - 2.9 BPG - 59.1% TS - 3 Finals MVPs
    Kobe: 22.0 PPG - 6.1 RPG - 5.1 APG - 1.3 SPG - 1.2 BPG - 50.8% TS - 0 Finals MVPs

    • @rusty111fire
      @rusty111fire 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      mf lyin like we dont have access to the internet lmaooo
      Kobe's stats during the 3 peat:
      1990-2000 season
      Regular Season:
      Games Played: 66
      Points: 22.5 PPG
      Rebounds: 6.3 RPG
      Assists: 4.9 APG
      Steals: 1.6 SPG
      Blocks: 1.0 BPG
      Field Goal %: 46.8%
      Playoffs:
      Points: 21.1 PPG
      Rebounds: 4.5 RPG
      Assists: 4.4 APG
      Steals: 1.5 SPG
      Blocks: 1.5 BPG
      Field Goal %: 44.2%
      2000-2001 Season
      Regular Season:
      Games Played: 68
      Points: 28.5 PPG
      Rebounds: 5.9 RPG
      Assists: 5.0 APG
      Steals: 1.7 SPG
      Blocks: 0.6 BPG
      Field Goal %: 46.4%
      Playoffs:
      Points: 29.4 PPG
      Rebounds: 7.3 RPG
      Assists: 6.1 APG
      Steals: 1.6 SPG
      Blocks: 0.8 BPG
      Field Goal %: 46.9%
      2001-2002 Season
      Regular Season:
      Games Played: 80
      Points: 25.2 PPG
      Rebounds: 5.5 RPG
      Assists: 5.5 APG
      Steals: 1.5 SPG
      Blocks: 0.4 BPG
      Field Goal %: 46.9%
      Playoffs:
      Points: 26.6 PPG
      Rebounds: 5.8 RPG
      Assists: 4.6 APG
      Steals: 1.4 SPG
      Blocks: 0.8 BPG

    • @brad2943
      @brad2943 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No all games it’s Shaq 29 - Kobe 26

    • @cristianlopez6069
      @cristianlopez6069 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      How did they get to the finals lil bro? The finals was made for Shaq to eat up, they had no bigs. Since it’s clear you’re a casual, go watch what shaq said in the 01 playoffs about kobe.. look what kobe did in the western playoffs.

    • @bluv5185
      @bluv5185 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What about all those western conference series to get to the finals. That’s where the real bump was at!

    • @GMQuay
      @GMQuay 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@bluv5185exactly , like why exclude that? Kobe was hooping in the conference finals and earlier rounds. He was the closer.

  • @g5162
    @g5162 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    When the Lakers won those championships, the Lakers ran the offense through Shaq

  • @supernice5979
    @supernice5979 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    He’s right Kobe was second option. Shaq was first option. Everybody feared shaq he was a force.

    • @jaydubb2005
      @jaydubb2005 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      #2000 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 21ppg 4reb 4ast
      * Kobe led scoring 6x
      * Shaq led scoring 16x
      ______
      #2001 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 29ppg 7reb 6ast
      * Kobe led scoring 8x
      * Shaq led in scoring 8x
      ______
      #2002 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 28ppg 12reb 2ast
      Kobe 26ppg 5reb 4ast
      * Kobe led scoring 10x
      * Shaq led scoring 9x

    • @noyce.
      @noyce. 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      People really be forgetting 00 and that few years, it was Shaq's League.
      Teams were overpaying bigbodies just to stay infront of Shaq

    • @gifi11
      @gifi11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@noyce. What happened in 2000 WCF?

    • @jaydubb2005
      @jaydubb2005 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Stats below clearly show and prove that Kobe and Shaq shared leadership responsibilities and took turns destroying their opponents just like Magic and Kareem.
      #2000 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 21ppg 4reb 4ast
      * Kobe led in scoring 6x
      * Shaq led in scoring 16x
      O’Neal led the team in scoring 16 games during the playoffs with games scoring 46, 43, 41, 41, 40 plus eight other 30 point games. Bryant proved his offensive and defensive (All Defense) skill leading the team in scoring six times with highs being 35, 33, 32 and 32 again at the age of 21. 😂
      ____
      #2001 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 29ppg 7reb 6ast
      * Kobe led in scoring 8x
      * Shaq led in scoring 8x
      Through this playoff run Shaq led the team in scoring in eight games scoring 30 points or better seven times and 40 points three times. Kobe on the other hand was (All Defense) and led the team in scoring in eight games, scoring 30 points or more in seven games and two games over 40 including the team playoff high of 48 points at the age of 22. 😂
      ____
      #2002 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 28ppg 12reb 2ast
      Kobe 26ppg 5reb 4ast
      * Kobe led in scoring 10x
      * Shaq led in scoring 9x
      O’Neal was the team scoring leader in nine playoff games, eight times scoring 30 or more points.
      Kobe was (All Defense) and led the team in ten playoff games, six times scoring 30 or more points at the age of 23. 😂

  • @LigerSQ
    @LigerSQ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    People getting this so confused, at the end of the day somebody got to be top dog.

  • @jeezzluizzrico5297
    @jeezzluizzrico5297 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The DISRESPECT these clowns be giving Kobe is crazy

  • @moehendrxx7964
    @moehendrxx7964 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Bro Shaq was unstoppable those years

  • @KingTrini_1
    @KingTrini_1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +71

    One speaking facts, two in their feelings.

    • @lancejacobsen8372
      @lancejacobsen8372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Gilbert is speaking opinion also. He’s not arguing facts.

    • @WhatsBiggin
      @WhatsBiggin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Gil was literally lying. Saying when Kobe took over, they were 3-4 when Shaq was out, when they only lost 3 of their first 30 games in total. Hang up the Kobe slander. He's GOATed

    • @yeem6017
      @yeem6017 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@WhatsBigginhe’s talkin bout the 02-03 szn not 03-04 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @oscarmoore4907
      @oscarmoore4907 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@lancejacobsen8372he speaking facts. Go back n watch the games . Shaq was the best in the league, double teams tripple teams shaq carried that team for years.

    • @samuellee2108
      @samuellee2108 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@oscarmoore4907 he’s absolutely isn’t…Kobe accounted for more points with points and assists and was superior defender and finisher of the game.. the media loved Shaq and hated Kobe…so it’s been painted this way for years.

  • @donniet348
    @donniet348 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

    The Lakers started 5-0 the 03-04 season. Gill is full of cap. They lost 3 of the 1st 20 games 😂😂😂. I can't wait for uncut hoops to get this one.
    The narrative back then was that Kobe and Shaq kept each other from winning MVP because they both were voted for and on the same team. Sounds like 2 lead Dawgs. I watched it all. Kobe's entire career. I remember this.

    • @lancejacobsen8372
      @lancejacobsen8372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Excellent point. You were around for it for sure. That narrative that was being pushed couldn’t have been pushed if they weren’t seen as equals.

    • @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC
      @IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you!

    • @williamholloway4481
      @williamholloway4481 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Gil referred to the 02-03 season , following the championship 3peat

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@IsHeARealOneVadaRealMCShaq was the man on the team. He won all three finals MVPs

    • @powerisknowledgeTV
      @powerisknowledgeTV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly while Kobe was going through outside bs

  • @TheWholeShabang8600
    @TheWholeShabang8600 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +154

    Gil is the biggest contradicting person ever to talk sports 😂😂😂

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      How is he contradicting? Shaq was that dude on the team

    • @Kell.B
      @Kell.B 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      He bring up and stats and facts to win his arguments unlike some
      Of the other guys

    • @theonlykingA
      @theonlykingA 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Nick and Brandon didn’t even have a central point to their arguments

    • @TJ-fu5kr
      @TJ-fu5kr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I don't see how he's contradicting himself in this clip tbh. I feel people struggle to understand that it's possible to have a favorite player but still be objective about who they were. For example, growing up my favorite player was Allan Houston... do I think Allan Houston was the best player in the league... of course not. I can still be objective 😂

    • @danpoole5721
      @danpoole5721 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He always want to b right

  • @babesababe5885
    @babesababe5885 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Shaq is literally the most offensively dominant nba player in history

    • @TowDow3
      @TowDow3 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      nah.

    • @seansimms6693
      @seansimms6693 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s mainly these young Kobe fans🤣to me Eddie Jones was better than Kobe at first🤣no one was better than Shaq.

    • @elvisfreshly5571
      @elvisfreshly5571 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@seansimms6693Kareem and Hakeem the dream were for sure

    • @jasonray6888
      @jasonray6888 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do your homework on Wilt Chamberlain.

    • @davis2k1234
      @davis2k1234 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wilt Jokic Kareem just off the top of my head at Center

  • @tronwilliams8781
    @tronwilliams8781 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Kobe was Robin to shaq and everyone knew it than and now.

    • @elliot16
      @elliot16 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly lol and thats not a slight to kobe at all

    • @chrisade3916
      @chrisade3916 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Stay off the weed bruh, Kobe is in the Goat Convo, Shaq ain't

    • @campaingsosa300
      @campaingsosa300 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisade3916bro a dumbass yes you

    • @campaingsosa300
      @campaingsosa300 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisade3916dumbass

    • @campaingsosa300
      @campaingsosa300 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisade3916he could be

  • @freshprinceshaun
    @freshprinceshaun 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Lets stop the malarkey, Shaq was the best player on the best team and in the league. Kobe even knew it, he always said if Shaq worked as hard as he did he would’ve been sitting on 11 rings.

    • @killablackmambakbm7593
      @killablackmambakbm7593 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      In 2000 he was the mvp and 2nd in dpoy. 2001 and 2002 he wasn't ever again on the dpoy top 10 voting . Kobe was in the top 5-12 in dpoy and top 5-12 in mvp each year of the 3peat..

    • @sakpase88
      @sakpase88 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@killablackmambakbm759 💯

    • @edgaro8
      @edgaro8 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@freshprinceshaun kobe fans are sure happy as hell that didn’t happen because shaq would be the mvp of all those 11 championships and kobe would still be the sidekick/robin

    • @BlackPanther-nv2dy
      @BlackPanther-nv2dy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@killablackmambakbm7593you must be deaf gill literally googled that shaq finished 3rd in mvp those two years after he won it. Kobe got the dummiest fans

    • @ParisTheGreat
      @ParisTheGreat 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@edgaro8and that's okay! Maybe Shaq wouldn't have won the whole 11 mvps bc by 05 Shaq was falling off but Shaq would've def had like 5 or 6 of them mfs and Kobe would've had the other 4 or 5 for sure! 🤷🏾‍♂️💯

  • @hardwoodthought1213
    @hardwoodthought1213 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    2000 Playoffs
    Shaq - 32/16/3/3 on 60% shooting
    Kobe - 21/4/4 on 44% shooting
    That ring alone proved Shaq could win as a clear level over Kobe. In 01/02 Kobe maybe had similar value to Shaq, but it doesn’t change that in their time together Shaq could win as the clear cut best player with Kobe at best equaling Shaq’s value (then failing when he tried to assert himself as the teams best player on 03 and 04).
    EDIT: The people bringing up Kobes clutch play are hilarious. They act like Shaq didn’t win Games 1 and 2 of the 2000 finals with Kobe averaging 7 PPG. Now Kobe saving Game 4 makes him equal in value 😂

    • @mserikatodoh
      @mserikatodoh 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      01/02 had a similar value to Shaq? yet Kobe is robin? makes no sense. after 2002, kobe was better than shaq.

    • @EnjoyDaVision
      @EnjoyDaVision 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      3 finals mvps

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@mserikatodohYou must lack critical thinking skills. If they were equal for 2, with Shaq being better for the 3rd, logic tells you which player was better slash more valuable piece?

    • @PharmBoi
      @PharmBoi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Kobe got hurt in first one and still showed his value shaq fouled out and Kobe had it … use all playoff numbers before finals to make a more valid argument

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@PharmBoi I love when people use the Game 4 argument as if Shaq didn’t win Games 1 and 2 with Kobe averaging 7 PPG 😂😂😂 if LA won the finals with Kobe averaging 15 PPG playing at 50%, being outscored by Austin Croshere doesn’t that definitively tell you Shaq was better?
      But even then, the 2000 playoffs up until Kobe got injured, he averaged 22.5 PPG… still waaaay less than Shaq

  • @HoldenBroussard
    @HoldenBroussard 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    Stop being sensitive about kobe! gil is right shaq was the lead dog thats why kobe wanted the team to himself without shaq

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      You can say that but carried??? And they act like he didn’t need Kobe? Side kick is crazy talk

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@michaelpaullang44012000 finals Shaq averaged 38/18 to Kobes 15/3/3. That’s not a carry?

    • @silosjr24
      @silosjr24 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Did u leave the part where he was playing with a bum ankle or no ?

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@silosjr24 That changes what? It just proves with Kobe had 50% Shaq could still win

    • @silosjr24
      @silosjr24 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @hardwoodthought1213 they would have not won that series if actually watched the games u would know that

  • @powerisknowledgeTV
    @powerisknowledgeTV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    With gils logic LeBron had the whole avengers and the Justice League😅

    • @desmonddavis3422
      @desmonddavis3422 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Name the team and the stats?

    • @powerisknowledgeTV
      @powerisknowledgeTV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @desmonddavis3422 even without gil vs logic everybody knows not only did lefraud invent super teams but had them his whole career stop it.

    • @theonlykingA
      @theonlykingA 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@powerisknowledgeTVso basically you’re just talking because you didn’t mention any facts to go along with what you said

    • @desmonddavis3422
      @desmonddavis3422 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @powerisknowledgeTV i see you didn't answer the question so thats all I needed to know

    • @powerisknowledgeTV
      @powerisknowledgeTV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @theonlykingA no you're just another delusional bronsexual and me knowing that I also know there's no talking to y'all. Acting like LeBron wasn't the only super star to only average 8 points in the finals on super teams SMH 🤦🏿‍♂️😮‍💨

  • @studentofthesaviors.o.s
    @studentofthesaviors.o.s 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    People don’t wanna admit it because people have a nostalgic attachment to Kobe Bryant. Nobody saying that Kobe Bryant was not great. He emphatically was great. However, he was the robin to Shaquille O’Neal’s Batman period point blank…

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kobe was asked to take a backseat to not hurt Shaq's feelings. The man was averaging 40ppg when shaq was hurt, the Lakers were winning and Phil told Kobe to take a back seat.
      That's not a Robin. Why couldn't shaq get it done when he was playing with two all stars before Kobe? Eddie Jones and nick van axel?

    • @mr.r4910
      @mr.r4910 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@MikeBNumba6😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Boy you Kobetards are PATHETIC kobe WAS a sidekick you people just can't handle the truth and it's RIDICULOUS

  • @bigtrini19
    @bigtrini19 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    The last two rings wasn’t all Kobe in all due respect, Gasol was a top 5 center in the league at that time plus they had some good players around Kobe

    • @argosbrave6415
      @argosbrave6415 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They all conveniently forget Kobe was demanding a trade out cuz he couldn't get past the 8th seed prior to Gasol's arrival

    • @bluv5185
      @bluv5185 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@argosbrave6415they were actually top 5 in the conference during the season before they made the gasol trade

    • @ayeooh4412
      @ayeooh4412 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      🧢 Gasol was never Top 5 center.

    • @DuckThePoet
      @DuckThePoet 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Top 5 center is diabolical 😂😂

    • @bigtrini19
      @bigtrini19 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ayeooh4412 key words “at that time” not all time, do your research who was the top 5 centers in those last two championships for Kobe? Calling cap without stating facts is foolish

  • @LuisAdrian777
    @LuisAdrian777 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Dont let gil lie to you, he’s def not a kobe fan 💀🤣 kobe would shit on him as a bench player at one point

    • @LuisAdrian777
      @LuisAdrian777 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      And remember gil is the bigggest Jordan fan so kobe is not in the convo for him. Even though kobe had way better opposition than mj and perfected mj’s moves. Even added counters 😂💀

    • @TopShotta762
      @TopShotta762 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      💯💯💯💯💯

    • @skineyemin4276
      @skineyemin4276 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@LuisAdrian777 Now, you're makin' up sh*t.

    • @DauriGonzalez-b8z
      @DauriGonzalez-b8z 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@LuisAdrian777ur smoking something

    • @KenCruze
      @KenCruze 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Gil scored 60 on Kobe. You don’t know any better, child.

  • @MrStewie601
    @MrStewie601 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I remember when the coaches told Kobe to dial it back because Shaq would get upset. Gil be real

    • @seansimms6693
      @seansimms6693 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Cause Shaq shot a higher field goal percentage, duh?

    • @BlackPanther-nv2dy
      @BlackPanther-nv2dy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah cause the same thing happened against Detroit was gonna happen if kobe didn't dial it back.

    • @BlackPanther-nv2dy
      @BlackPanther-nv2dy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@seansimms6693man kobe fans so ignorant

    • @jamalwalker04
      @jamalwalker04 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly lol Detroit knew Kobe was going to shoot the Lakers out of that series all they had to do was isolate him. Long enough for him to get mad. ​@@BlackPanther-nv2dy

    • @DLJ19
      @DLJ19 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That wasn't the reason chief, Kobe was on a 9 game streak of scoring 40pts and winning games, and the coach told Kobe to literally help Shaq because he was getting in his feelings.​@@seansimms6693

  • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
    @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    If Kobe was the sidekick, why did Shaq say in 2001 that Kobe is the “best player in the world”?

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      He was the sidekick. Shaq was the most dominant player ever. It’s not a debate

    • @k-way8471
      @k-way8471 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Batman never needed to in to beat the joker but shaq needed Kobe to win a championship so how can you call Kobe robin

    • @liluzimez
      @liluzimez 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      that's called the leader of the team giving the #2 confidence... much like lebron has been doing to AD the past 6 years, now he's an MVP candidate.. yall don't actually know hoops lol , just feelings .

    • @k-way8471
      @k-way8471 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@liluzimez ad been in the mvp for a few years now and defensive player of the year conversation but it was just a conversation

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@k-way8471everybody needs some help. Doesn’t mean Kobe wasn’t robin. Jordan needed pippen but we all know pippen was the sidekick

  • @dillionjdaniels
    @dillionjdaniels 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I didn’t even know Shaq being the Batman of the lakers was even a debate. It’s not saying that Kobe wasn’t going off too but shaq definitely was the main focus point

  • @michaelrayii7102
    @michaelrayii7102 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Shaq was most definitely dominant and the lead dog in those first 3 championships. Nick and Brandon just be loud and wrong!

    • @dariusewing6962
      @dariusewing6962 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      TRUE BUT KOBE WAS ALWAYS BATMAN....WESTERN CONV FINALS. HE AVERAGED 30 IN 2001 -2002

    • @Cream-2128
      @Cream-2128 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dariusewing6962actually Shaq averaged 30 against the kings Kobe averaged 27 and the clutch shot was made by Horry after Kobe missed

    • @gifi11
      @gifi11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why didn't the most dominant win a championship until Kobe started starting. Shaq wasn't a rookie. He had a great team in Orlando and lost. He had 2 all stars in LA and lost. Didn't win ish until Kobe.

  • @tefbloc9100
    @tefbloc9100 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It’s crazy saying Shaq is the number 1 big dog but can only average 2 more pts than Kobe as the most dominant big man ever… 🤣😂

    • @PhiliePhresh
      @PhiliePhresh 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Basically, like what?!!! Lol

  • @joearevalo437
    @joearevalo437 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The problem with that logic is for those 3 years any player in nba history would be taking a back seat to shaq.. idc if its 88 mj, 06 kobe, or miami heat LeBron they all would be “robin” if they played with 2000-2002 shaq

    • @biggchill8176
      @biggchill8176 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Great point but one haters won’t listen. But we all know when it matters who had the ball. Thats not a robin

    • @heyitsmedammit
      @heyitsmedammit 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      88 mj would take a back seat to no-one, but Shaq in 2000 was all-time unstoppable. Hard call

    • @joearevalo437
      @joearevalo437 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ if they on the same team and win a chip 2000 shaq wins finals mvp over anybody

    • @waltjones6927
      @waltjones6927 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And thats why shaq in the goat debate IMO but that's another discussion

    • @duronbryant5921
      @duronbryant5921 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cappp 💯💯💯

  • @24ZEPACDC
    @24ZEPACDC 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s so strange that Gil hates on media, but when it comes to regular season awards voted by the media, he values it tremendously. Everybody knows that Kobe should’ve won 3 MVPs over his career.

  • @Dreyko55
    @Dreyko55 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Kobe was Batman.
    Shaq was Superman.
    They both where leaders.

    • @SirEmoSapien
      @SirEmoSapien 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Superman led the justice league that batman was 2nd fiddle in.

    • @Dreyko55
      @Dreyko55 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @SirEmoSapien no actually Batman ran it. He just made it seem like Superman was in charge.

    • @SirEmoSapien
      @SirEmoSapien 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Dreyko55 no, canonically Superman ran it and Batman was the strategist.

    • @Dreyko55
      @Dreyko55 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SirEmoSapien ask your mom, how was the creampie I gave her. while you was cleaning the garage bub

  • @dstnroyce
    @dstnroyce 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Shaq himself said it best they were “Superman & Batman” no sidekick just 1A & 1B

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No he says that now after he squashed a beef. Didn’t he also ask Kobe how his ass tasted back in the day? A direct implication that he carried Kobe?

    • @terrellbaker1660
      @terrellbaker1660 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Uh sorry but 1A is superior to 1B seeing that the letter A is first and the letter B is second. No matter how it is worded, Shaq was the dominant, driving force behind those first 3 titles.

  • @MihailSmirnov-dw9qq
    @MihailSmirnov-dw9qq 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I've been following you for ages, love it!

  • @ItsNoRandom
    @ItsNoRandom 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    During there 3peat run in the playoffs
    Kobe25/5.7reb/4.9ast 1.5stls and 1blk 45fg 35% 79
    Shaq 30/15reb/3ast 2.4 blks

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How does a sidekick averaged 25ppg during a 3 peat?

    • @Riveratpeace8957
      @Riveratpeace8957 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mit normally takes 90+ points to win a game. Stop asking dumbass questions

    • @BmoreAce24
      @BmoreAce24 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Because the top dog average 30

    • @deadflies4265
      @deadflies4265 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Kyrie averaged 30 in 2016 and was a side kick

    • @imachamp88
      @imachamp88 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@BmoreAce24The top dog was averaging 30 because of Kobe

  • @gifi11
    @gifi11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Kobe was a top 5 NBA player. All NBA offense and defense. Led the team in assist and 4th quarter points. What a hell of a sidekick lol. With this logic Tim Duncan was a sidekick. Steph Curry was a sidekick, Larry Bird, Kareem......insane.

    • @rockjm9876543210
      @rockjm9876543210 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shaq was the best player during their 3 peat dawg, but that don't diminish kobe's importance to the team. I don't know why y'all in your feelings about this. Everybody that was alive and witnessing their 3 peat knew shaq was the big dawg and kobe was emerging.

  • @mrlionguerero
    @mrlionguerero 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There should always be context. When you watch games as it unfolds you get an idea who had a good game or not. The answer is not always who had the ball the last two minutes or who took the last shot to win the game. It's how the players played the entire game and the impact and contribution they made to help their team win. More often than not Shaq and Kobe had their moment during the games they played (regular/playoffs) to help the Lakers win the games. Kobe was the closer but Shaq was their foundation. He was the biggest mismatch for every team. He created problems. Shaq delivered and then some both offensive and defensive end. Kobe did his thing also on both ends but when every team is built to stop you and still be the biggest factor to win the games that is next level.

  • @ephraimandrewin853
    @ephraimandrewin853 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    4:28 Brandon is focusing on the level of skill not how the player complementing each other playing style.

    • @jaydubb2005
      @jaydubb2005 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      #2000 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 21ppg 4reb 4ast
      * Kobe led scoring 6x
      * Shaq led scoring 16x
      ______
      #2001 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 29ppg 7reb 6ast
      * Kobe led scoring 8x
      * Shaq led in scoring 8x
      ______
      #2002 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 28ppg 12reb 2ast
      Kobe 26ppg 5reb 4ast
      * Kobe led scoring 10x
      * Shaq led scoring 9x

    • @voselinecooper6510
      @voselinecooper6510 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And dirk 2 3 n 4th had better career then Brandon ass career

  • @CEOTonez
    @CEOTonez 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Shaq was the guy! Kobe was the sidekick until Shaq left.

    • @jaydubb2005
      @jaydubb2005 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      #2000 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 21ppg 4reb 4ast
      * Kobe led scoring 6x
      * Shaq led scoring 16x
      ______
      #2001 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 30ppg 15reb 3ast
      Kobe 29ppg 7reb 6ast
      * Kobe led scoring 8x
      * Shaq led in scoring 8x
      ______
      #2002 Playoffs + Finals
      Shaq 28ppg 12reb 2ast
      Kobe 26ppg 5reb 4ast
      * Kobe led scoring 10x
      * Shaq led scoring 9x

    • @duronbryant5921
      @duronbryant5921 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kobe wasn’t a sidekick 😂😂😂

  • @invincible0463
    @invincible0463 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Shaq and kobe was 1a and 1b, kobe was just young and couldn't fully unleash himself because it would always be a problem when he did. But he was good enough. He averaged 33/7/7 in the WCF against the spurs who were the number 1 seed and number 1 defence. In an era where teams scored 80 points. Tell me if he was good enough to do that at 22 and damn near average the same numbers as shaq throughout the whole 01 playoffs where they swept every team how was he a sidekick? I've never seen a sidekick 2 option have the capability of doing that. Thinking kobe was a sidekick just because of finals mvps in an era where you had to play through the big man and kobe was much younger than shaq than you're too simple minded. That was all instructions that kobe followed. Everytime shaq was off the court kobe took over and exploded, if anything he had more space to go in the lane.

    • @dariusewing6962
      @dariusewing6962 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      all facts

    • @Luvmysippi
      @Luvmysippi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No Kobe was robin at that time. To say 1a and 1b is to say that he was just as good as Shaq at the time. But everyone watching knew that wasn't the case.

    • @invincible0463
      @invincible0463 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @Luvmysippi look at all the coverage during the 01 playoffs in the media, and even shaq himself. Oh and Phil jackson himself said kobes overall court game was the highest of any player hes ever coached during those playoffs. All facts.

    • @painfulpizza1239
      @painfulpizza1239 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bruh regardless of how y’all spin it shaq was the guy, A still comes before B kobe was prolly the best 2nd option of all time but he was still a second option that’s why they the greasiest duo of all time

    • @invincible0463
      @invincible0463 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @painfulpizza1239 but when people say it they use it to discredit kobe saying he was carried or was some sidekick. They dont do that to kareem who only won 2 finals mvps out of his 6 championships lol. They dont discredit any of his rings that's why it's not an honest debate.

  • @ly_bb
    @ly_bb 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Fun but crazy fact: in the 2000 finals, Shaq averaged more rebounds than Kobe averaged points. This is not disrespect. Shaq was THAT dominant. And like Gil said, Kobe was fucking 21 years old. Steph was a rookie at 21

    • @gifi11
      @gifi11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You know Kobe got hurt in the 2000 finals, no? He didn't play all of game 2 and didn't play game 3. You don't think that's going to impact your finals stats lol? Kobe was the reason we even went to the finals that year. Did you forget game 7 WCF against the Blazers?

  • @bilogskii2216
    @bilogskii2216 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Shaq and Kobe duo wasn't a Batman and Robin, it was Superman and Batman. Kobe was never a Robin.

  • @ItzDalv0
    @ItzDalv0 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    If the last 2 rings was all Kobe then he should’ve won more than 2 more mf

    • @olajawanmagee768
      @olajawanmagee768 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right Kobe showed out but people swear that Lakers team was trash get the hell out of here

    • @gifi11
      @gifi11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Huh lol?

    • @ItzDalv0
      @ItzDalv0 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ you don’t understand English lol ?

  • @mserikatodoh
    @mserikatodoh 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Kobe Bryant 2001 WCF Stats: 33 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists.... this ain't no robin numbers....

    • @taymoneybagz9024
      @taymoneybagz9024 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Klay scored 60 in 3 quarters and will never at any point in his career be considered a better player than Steph who was Batman 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @jourdansarpy4935
      @jourdansarpy4935 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That was one series. Look at the totality of each season.

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@taymoneybagz9024klay better than Kobe ?? Has klay ever carried his team?? Had klay ever averaged 30 pts throughout the playoffs

    • @OriginalRizz-JxR
      @OriginalRizz-JxR 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@taymoneybagz9024nigga thats one game goofy ass dude. Klay has never averaged over 24 in a series

    • @mserikatodoh
      @mserikatodoh 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@jourdansarpy4935 wcf was basically the finals. much harder than the actual finals lol.

  • @704jizzle2
    @704jizzle2 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Only reason KOBE NUMBERS WERE CLOSE TO SHAQ IS BECAUSE HE GUNNED IN THE 4TH WHILE SHAQ WAS TRYING NOT TO GET FOULED

    • @mr.j410
      @mr.j410 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well yeah that was the strategy lmao stfu forever

    • @amenx
      @amenx 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shaq was a horrible free throw shooter

    • @3FederalCamgod
      @3FederalCamgod 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Umm sir he had to if they wanted to win their own coach even said 4th quarter is all Kobe

    • @duronbryant5921
      @duronbryant5921 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      False 💯💯💯

  • @Audikeeef
    @Audikeeef 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Please invite Allen Iverson to the show when they talk Kobe

  • @cleoharris6262
    @cleoharris6262 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's sucks to say it because we love Kobe, but he's right. Kobe was most definitely the second option while playing with Shaq. If we rewind time, and not look at the player Kobe became, he most definitely wasn't more dominant than Shaq. Kobe may have closed games, but they got there because of Shaq. Once Shaq left Kobe became number one option

    • @moisesfigueroa6390
      @moisesfigueroa6390 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So then LeBron was the sidekick with AD the year they won.. AD led in pts rebs, blocks.

    • @moisesfigueroa6390
      @moisesfigueroa6390 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And Magic was a sidekick to Kareem as well.. but yet both somehow are in most ppls top 5..

  • @Rixoveli
    @Rixoveli 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The first one yea but after that they were 1A, 1B

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      In which case Shaq was the better slash more valuable player for the 3 past, correct?

    • @itsruffoutchea6636
      @itsruffoutchea6636 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Does A come before B? Y'all can turn this into algebra, but still doesn't change SHAQ was better.

    • @gifi11
      @gifi11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not even the first one. What happened in the 2000 WCF?

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gifi11 2000 Playoffs
      Shaq - 32/16/3/3 on 60% shooting
      Kobe - 21/3/4 on 46% shooting
      Kobe being clutch a few games in a WCF makes his value equal? LMFAO
      What happened in Games 1 and 2 of the finals? Because LA won both, Kobe? He averaged 7 PPG in those first two games LMFAO

    • @gifi11
      @gifi11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @hardwoodthought1213 Kobe got hurt. Jalen Rose said he purposely tried to hurt Kobe. You can use a stat when Kobe didn't even play that whole game if it makes you feel good lol. WCF game 7 Kobe had more points, rebounds, blocks, steals, and assist than Shaq. Shaq played awful, and we were down by like 16 points. Kobe at 21 had to lead the largest playoff comeback at the time. Without that historical game, Shaq would have never been able to bully the centers in the East and three peat. What did you forget or you weren't born?

  • @TNTSID
    @TNTSID 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    He’s not a Kobe fan.. no Kobe fan would say that dumb shit.

  • @ValentinaRosas-i4q
    @ValentinaRosas-i4q 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Why aren't you more famous?!

    • @bigboywhoadie
      @bigboywhoadie 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because he doesn't have (or want) bots like you to boost his ratings or popularity.. 😐 Go polish a knob and hush.

  • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
    @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Shaq in 2001: “When I first came to LA, Jerry showed me a tape of this kid, and I knew he had potential and a lot of people thought we had problems. We never really had problems at all.”

  • @kuyab9122
    @kuyab9122 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gil makes a fair point if you emphasize being the unquestioned leader of a championship team as a main criterion for greatness. However this perspective might undervalue Kobe's broader impact, versatility and accomplishments. Kobe’s career encapsulates both the ability to excel alongside another superstar and to dominate as the main option later in his career.

  • @vashaundavids4802
    @vashaundavids4802 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    RIP Kobe 🙏
    No Kobe slander , but because you love a player, don't change narrative.... The other NBA players back then couldn't wait for Shaq to leave. After Shaq left, teams were letting Kobe score, but he wasn't winning.
    Kobe said, " ama bust his a..." about Ray Allen ( playing with Seattle then) because Ray made a comment about Shaq being gone.... yall can Google the first game for Lakers vs. Seattle after Shaq left. The NBA players, even Phil Jackson, left him and wrote a book about his pov of Kobe....
    Now I will not sh.t on Kobe's greatness. After Being Humbled, Phil coming back then Memphis giving Lakers a gift with Pau Gasol and Bynum, Kobe's game matured beautifully, and the NBA hated on Kobe getting more chips by vetoeing the Chris Paul trade when Kobe still had his powers

    • @justinjones9579
      @justinjones9579 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Honestly it’s all relative to how you view it. In my opinion, the Lakers were a trash team that had Two ultra superstars. You can’t plug and play VC, AI, Tracy into the Lakers and get the same results. It only worked because Kobe and Shaq were two of the best 3 players in the league.

    • @vashaundavids4802
      @vashaundavids4802 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @justinjones9579 the others would've gotten at least 1 definitely AI and TMac.. VC wasn't much in the playoffs as the face of the franchise. But yeah, Kobe was more dedicated to being The Greatest more than the others, and he stayed healthy

    • @iceman-hw7kb
      @iceman-hw7kb 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i agree no Kobe Bryant slander

    • @CommonNotCommon24-7
      @CommonNotCommon24-7 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wtf does this have to do with Shaq dominating the Finals?
      Kobe fans don't want no slander on his name but will slander other greats name like the fans of the other greats not going to say nothing 😂

    • @justinjones9579
      @justinjones9579 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ respectfully Shaq dominated because he had the easier matchup in the finals. If WCMVP was a thing Kobe would’ve gotten it all three years and maybe a 4th in 2004

  • @IsaiasMGPalafox
    @IsaiasMGPalafox 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Uncut Hoops is going to have a field day w/ this one. 😂😂😂

  • @RJ30000
    @RJ30000 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The sidekick got more rings💍💍💍💍💍🐐

    • @wilcunningham5787
      @wilcunningham5787 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      2 FINALS MVP 😂😂😂😂

    • @terrellbaker1660
      @terrellbaker1660 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      No he doesn't. The first 3 are Shaq's rings. 3 straight NBA Finals MVPs attest to that. Since Kobe was on the team he gets a ring just like Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, and everyone else. But those are Shaq's rings historically. Scottie Pippen is a 6 time champion so why isn't he in the goat conversation? James Worthy won 3 rings with the Lakers but no one mentions him in goat conversations. Because sidekick rings don't count. Kobe was the man on his last 2 rings. Shaq was the man on his first 3. Facts

    • @treso414
      @treso414 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@terrellbaker1660that doesn’t attest to anything cuz without Kobe their not winning

    • @terrellbaker1660
      @terrellbaker1660 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@treso414 Without Shaq they don't make the playoffs. Without Kobe they do.

    • @deadflies4265
      @deadflies4265 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@treso414 bro stop it man. Shaq was the man on those teams. LeBron has played 2nd fiddle to no one

  • @ervinestes3758
    @ervinestes3758 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don't believe Gil is a Kobe fan. 🗣WHO SENT YOU🫵🏿?‼️ 😅😂🤣

  • @DuckThePoet
    @DuckThePoet 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nick “swaggy p” young ain’t never letting no Kobe disrespect slide 😂😂😂

  • @gear5corey901
    @gear5corey901 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Robin rings is mad crazy . Every argument gil has against kobe leads back to lebron

    • @MLC719
      @MLC719 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How LeBron has been the best player on every team he’s played for

    • @fadercreek
      @fadercreek 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@MLC719in that case how does he have more losses than wins

    • @heartlesstv4916
      @heartlesstv4916 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@fadercreek played a dynasty in the spurs several times & another dynasty in the warriors (1 series without klove & Kyrie while avg a triple double) & another against a KD lead 79-3 golden state team who he beat the year before.. pretty self explanatory

    • @MLC719
      @MLC719 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@fadercreek I understand that LeBron has underperformed in some finals but he was still the best player on all those teams

    • @deadflies4265
      @deadflies4265 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fadercreek lol that doesn’t even make sense lol LeBron was the best player for all his rings Kobe was not. Go cry

  • @yeem6017
    @yeem6017 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I stopped arguing with kobe fans a longgg time ago 😂 i love kobe but he was definitely the #2 option to shaq at that time and it’s nothing wrong with that

  • @MarquiseEdwards-k9f
    @MarquiseEdwards-k9f 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Kobe won without shaq 🥶 and shaq had to go be robin to get one with D-Wade im just saying 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @wilcunningham5787
      @wilcunningham5787 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's true, but Shaq 3 FINALS MVP

    • @carlmathews5778
      @carlmathews5778 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What does that have to do with the threepeat

    • @MarquiseEdwards-k9f
      @MarquiseEdwards-k9f 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@carlmathews5778 are you not listening to the topic ?? They’re making comparisons to who was the Batman and robin the 3 peat isn’t even apart of the conversation..

    • @carlmathews5778
      @carlmathews5778 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarquiseEdwards-k9f so tell me you not even watching the video. Go rewatch the video

    • @olajawanmagee768
      @olajawanmagee768 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wasn’t shaq in the MVP race when he won with wade. Wade had a epic finals but shaq balled still

  • @MrBrick68
    @MrBrick68 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is a rather silly debate. Shaq was clearly the main focus of teams, and Kobe was the 2nd option. Facts. Pau Gasol was an all-star prior to the Lakers. He was called the most skilled big man in the game at that time. Kobe didn't win those 2 alone.

  • @pezzyroscoe2393
    @pezzyroscoe2393 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Big shot bob made the important shots. Him n d fisher

  • @joeyjfive
    @joeyjfive 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If you didn’t watch during that time period then please just don’t say anything. If you watched, you’d know Shaq was being double and triple teamed. Kobe was able to put up numbers because teams were throwing the kitchen sink at Shaq. Shaq was so dominant at the time, if he caught the ball, it was already over.

  • @jjj.3
    @jjj.3 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Gil lowkey always be tryna throw shade on Kobe for some odd reason… even after Kobe complemented his game and respected him, but the guy that teased and embarrassed him in a critical playoff game (LeBron) he constantly on his knees for 🤦‍♂️😴

    • @Luvmysippi
      @Luvmysippi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's the actual truth though. Nobody wants to remember it that way but the entire league knew that was Shaq's team.

    • @704jizzle2
      @704jizzle2 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its not shade KOBE WAS NEVER OVER SHAQ man y'all dudes weren't even born talking about this shyt is crazy

    • @kungfufemafam9216
      @kungfufemafam9216 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How is it shade. Anyone with a brain knows they don't win those first 3 without Shaq

    • @jjj.3
      @jjj.3 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kungfufemafam9216I’m not talking about just this topic dumbass anytime Kobe comes up he acts weird for some reason if you actually watch the show

    • @jjj.3
      @jjj.3 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@704jizzle2I’m talking about when Kobe is a topics as a whole not just this conversation, be better at comprehending

  • @turrahblount8016
    @turrahblount8016 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Brandon and swag sound crazy

  • @dionicio24
    @dionicio24 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can’t see the Kobe being Robin talk simply bc I don’t think I’ve ever seen a duo where they both could takeover games like that. It seem like if he wasn’t billed as the next Jordan the way he was viewed his younger years would be different.

  • @darrengreene-wynter5296
    @darrengreene-wynter5296 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    99-00 kobe averaged 15.6 Shaq averaged 38
    00-01 kobe averaged 24.6 Shaq averaged 33
    01-02 kobe averaged 26.8 Shaq averaged 36.3
    Anyone who says Shaq was the sidekick is bugging

    • @DLJ19
      @DLJ19 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where did you get those numbers😂😂😂

    • @Smellz25
      @Smellz25 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DLJ19 It’s not hard to search it up

    • @moisesfigueroa6390
      @moisesfigueroa6390 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's in the finals only.. how about about the road to get there ?? Like going thru the Spurs, blazers, kings.. look those up

  • @Loveall1327
    @Loveall1327 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love kobe we all do and he was great in those 3 peat finals but Gill is right shaq was the #1 all feelings aside

  • @kelanderson9906
    @kelanderson9906 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Jordan would never be robin to no one, he came into the league as that guy immediately.

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You dumb as hell if you don’t think he would of been robin to Shaq 😂😂so was Kareem, so was Shaq so was many other Great players

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Weak take fr! If you don’t think they wouldn’t be playing thru Shaq not mj your not very smart

    • @bboywolf
      @bboywolf 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelpaullang4401 the only not very smart person is the idiot trying to say shaq would be the focal point of an offense when the greatest offensive player ever is right there

    • @BrianLockett-s6x
      @BrianLockett-s6x 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      MJ was NEVER the guy

    • @kelanderson9906
      @kelanderson9906 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@michaelpaullang4401 u must not be very smart to even question who they would play through Jordan was 3rd in scoring his rookie year, finished 6th in MVP voting, and was all NBA 2nd team as a rookie.

  • @playmaker2121
    @playmaker2121 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Gilbert sounds like a fool

  • @tygenuine9953
    @tygenuine9953 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kobe never a robin gil, thats craziii. Nick and Brandon speaking it.

  • @Go_Wit_Da_Flow
    @Go_Wit_Da_Flow 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How ever you wanna label it. Shaq was the top dog in those 3 championship years. Why do people wanna get offended when they hear that?
    Be it him being Robin To Batman, or Batman to Superman. The fact is that the best player was Shaq.
    Kobe had his moments where he helped the team win games, but Shaq took them there and was the main reason they won.

  • @VontaTa
    @VontaTa 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Idk bout y’all but 6-0 in the finals and never went to a game 7, then he leave come back and win 3 more I don’t think that will happen ever again!!! 🤝📌

  • @micdewitt
    @micdewitt 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Gasol, Bynum, Odom, Artest with a lot of bail out during the finals...it was never all Kobe

    • @olajawanmagee768
      @olajawanmagee768 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thank you they try to act like that team was trash to lift Kobe up

    • @seanzadsalamat5167
      @seanzadsalamat5167 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes and LeBron and Jordan did it all alone too. Shaq could’ve did it with anyone. Nice logic

    • @1804ZoeEJ
      @1804ZoeEJ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@seanzadsalamat5167right he sound so dumb 😂😂😂 he’s acting like anyone he named was top 150😂😂😂😂 all time can’t say that about lebron Jordan shaq wade Duncan noneeee of them and im the biggest lebron fan…

    • @davis2k1234
      @davis2k1234 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shaq is the only teammate Kobe has who avg 20PPG

    • @gifi11
      @gifi11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Gasol has the record for being swept. He did absolutely nothing before Kobe. What did Bynum do after? Bynum wasn't even an all star during the 2peat. Odom is my guy. I have nothing bad to say about LO. Artest has 1 all star in his career. That finals everybody said Kobe played bad in, he still averaged 29 lol. Imagine being so good your bad is 29 lol

  • @renegarcia7591
    @renegarcia7591 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Kobe was a Batman in his own right! He wasn’t no side kick! Let’s be real if basketball awarded finals mvp in their division kinda like baseball does, Kobe would have for damm sure won WCF MVP in 01

    • @oillizm
      @oillizm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Stop. Shaq was the man guy winning the first 3 rings. Everything else is purely emotional

    • @VinceStephen
      @VinceStephen 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nobody ever said Kobe was the best player in the league when he and Shaq played together 😂 He was a Robin. It is what it is.

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oillizmweak ass take, I can understand forts chip but after that Noo !!

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@VinceStephenhis own teammate did named Shaq ?? On national television

    • @renegarcia7591
      @renegarcia7591 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@VinceStephen cap, Kobe lead the team in jersey sales even over Shaq.. he was always the fan favorite! From 2000-2011 all everyone talked about in the hood was Kobe! As youngers everyone yelled out Kobe while shooting paper trash. Everyone always said Kobe was the best

  • @cresv422
    @cresv422 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Big Kobe fan here but Shaq was the force in those 3 year championship run. Teams would prefer Shaq to be injured instead of Kobe

  • @lovehenegan6064
    @lovehenegan6064 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Everyone knew that at THAT time, the team coming out the WEST was the winning champ. KOBE was a major, if not, THE reason they won the west.

  • @704jizzle2
    @704jizzle2 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    These dudes trying to rewrite history SHAQ WAS BATMAN KOBE WAS RODMAN KOBE LOSS THEM THE FINALS TRYING TO BE #1

    • @ntwpodcast4100
      @ntwpodcast4100 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I can tell you didnt even watch the Kobe and Shaq era. They were Superman and Batman. They were never called the Shaq Lakers, they were the Shaq and Kobe Lakers. You and Gill sound silly.

    • @itsruffoutchea6636
      @itsruffoutchea6636 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@ntwpodcast4100you're right Shaq and kobe Lakers, not kobe and Shaq Lakers. Shaq was the best player in the NBA back then not kobe. Superman/Batman or Batman/Robin doesn't matter SHAQ was the top dog kobe was under him. Get out y'all feelings.

    • @ntwpodcast4100
      @ntwpodcast4100 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@itsruffoutchea6636 Stop trying to talk like Gill. "Get out of your feelings" They were called Shaq and Kobe or Kobe and Shaq Lakers. Shaq in 2001 called Kobe the best player in the league. That's facts. You didnt even watch basketball back then. You just told on yourself with that senseless comment. For teir first championship Shaq was the best. The second and third....Batman and superman. Batman is over Robin but Superman and Batman are equals. Batman and Superman are both alphas so it does matter.

    • @itsruffoutchea6636
      @itsruffoutchea6636 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ntwpodcast4100 Batman and Superman are not equals and neither were Shaq and kobe. Miss me with that dumb bs you're talking about.

    • @ntwpodcast4100
      @ntwpodcast4100 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@itsruffoutchea6636 My point is uperman and Batman are both Alphas kid.

  • @iwonderboy_
    @iwonderboy_ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Shaq & Kobe/Lebron & Kyrie = Batman & Robin 🤷‍♂

    • @kungfufemafam9216
      @kungfufemafam9216 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol if you believe that, it's only due to Shaq. Lebron way better than Kobe ALL AROUND and Kyrie just as good or just right there and way better footwork and ball handling. Cars 2016 run was greater than anything Kobe and Shaq ever did with each other or by themselves. But I respect your opinion

  • @BurnerOfKD
    @BurnerOfKD 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Can’t nobody say Trey 5 is a sidekick

    • @novelaego2404
      @novelaego2404 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      mid

    • @heartlesstv4916
      @heartlesstv4916 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ran to a loaded team that’s why he’ll never be in the goat debate

  • @DarthZora
    @DarthZora 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It did NOT feel like a Batman-Robin duo . They both were ANOMALIES in their own category 🥂

  • @ckharper594
    @ckharper594 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That team was built around Shaq, Kobe just had moments

    • @gifi11
      @gifi11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Imagine being universally known as a top 5 player. All NBA offense and defense. Leading the team in assist and 4th quarter points and be told you just had moments lol. This is a differenly level of hate. Scary.

  • @OnlyGoldMedals
    @OnlyGoldMedals 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    B. Jennings and swaggy p might be slow, kids stay in school

  • @Jose-gh1mf
    @Jose-gh1mf 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Yes in the year 2000 a 21 year old kobe bryant was the 2nd option to a 28 year old shaq lmao everyone that year would have been the 2nd option to shaq but lets not act like kobe wasnt hurt in the finals and just a scrub. Shaq wouldnt have won without kobe tho just like mj didnt start winning rings till pippen

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Actually it was Phil Jackson

    • @heartlesstv4916
      @heartlesstv4916 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He has a ring without Kobe so you can’t use that logic.. give shaq TMac on the lakers & they would’ve still won

    • @Jose-gh1mf
      @Jose-gh1mf 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m phil helped but it takes more than a coach

    • @Jose-gh1mf
      @Jose-gh1mf 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@heartlesstv4916 yea with wade again not alone and 6 years after the 1st ring

  • @jedediahkongobantu4386
    @jedediahkongobantu4386 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Y'all say that shit because he is deceased

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Gil wasn’t saying sh** when Kobe was alive.

    • @Teezeyy
      @Teezeyy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6myou literally don’t know him to know that

    • @alvinrichmond305
      @alvinrichmond305 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kobe would tell you it was Shaqs team if he were alive, which is why he threatened to go to the Clippers and Bulls. U new cats are brainless

  • @tolubewaji8766
    @tolubewaji8766 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It’s like LeBron and kyrie, kyrie had big moments and made crazy shots, he even scored 41 in the finals, same as bron, but we all knew who no.1 was

  • @FrankTaharka-ib2lo
    @FrankTaharka-ib2lo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How you know every ring ain't the same. When you never got close to a ring. Be quiet Gilbert😂😂

  • @PharmBoi
    @PharmBoi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Gill is a clown and the more he tries to diminish Kobe he makes his own career appear ever more laughable 😂😂

    • @burberryboyboog8072
      @burberryboyboog8072 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Diminish Kobe how? He was behind one of the most dominant basketball players of all time. Y'all so emotional to the point where you hear something negative about your favorite player your go to is to try and discredit an NBA player 😂Calling Kobe robin I would say is a stretch though

  • @aaronstrait7150
    @aaronstrait7150 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Damn bruhhhhh how this mf beat me by 10 seconds 😭

  • @melo7591
    @melo7591 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Shaq said he doesn’t compete with guards who are ball dominant shooting 30 shots a game… he said he competes with players like Tim Duncan 😅

  • @soundz2558
    @soundz2558 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Side kicks are based off what they’re capable of… EXP.. robin was a side kick simply because he wasn’t as skilled strong smart resourceful as Batman…
    Kobe was never a sidekick… it’s a fact that he actually DUMBED down his game for the team… Kobe has more rings than Shaw remember that.. Shaq & Kobe was the term.. just cause shaq won all the accolades has nothing to do with Kobe.. Kobe literally did everthing better than shaq except dunk in the post.. so a player like Kobe was too big of a star to ever be a sidekick

  • @tmac8623
    @tmac8623 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What's wild, shaq had the privilege to have played with the top 2 and 3 sg guards of all time respectively

  • @gmuladub
    @gmuladub 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    🗣️ David Stern Vetoed the Chris Paul trade hurt me back then with Kobe getting Gasol‼️‼️

  • @KobaniacMinded
    @KobaniacMinded 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Do any of you look at Kris Middleton as giannis sidekick or equal?? He hit big shots he played when giannis was hurt against the hawks but none of you would say he was his equal. He did his job but Shaq was the MAN

    • @Certified_miere414
      @Certified_miere414 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro really compared Middleton to Kobe lol 😂

    • @KobaniacMinded
      @KobaniacMinded วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Certified_miere414 yes a sidekick

    • @Certified_miere414
      @Certified_miere414 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KobaniacMinded Yall obviously didn’t watch basketball in the early 2000s and it shows

  • @jasonwarrenjr7766
    @jasonwarrenjr7766 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That Tatum comment had Gil stuck 😂

  • @SpankGottaHustle
    @SpankGottaHustle 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gil’s right on this one 💜💛#LakerNation‼️

  • @jss42antonio
    @jss42antonio 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thing with Gil is he makes sense to the people who didn’t watch the lakers at that time. So it’s easier to go to the numbers and say Kobe was robin. But it was more of a magic Kareem situation, Kobe played the same important role that Shaq did.