They were the faces of the league and best 2 teams but as players I don't see rivalry at all. They barely guard each other. It was Kd vs Lebron when he got to golden stats.. kyrie vs steph was the match up
Gil is slow. His argument dies when he say LeBron and Steph can’t be rivals because they don’t play the same position, but then say Bird and Magic were rivals when they didn’t play the same position.
I'll shoot him bail and say that Bird & Magic were at least similar sizes so it's not a mismatch but I still believe you can be rivals and not the same position
I clearly remember Kobe’s rival being Shaq. When asked what Kobe’s 5th ring meant to him he reply “Got one more than Shaq” Sorry Gil take a walk with this one bro!
That's different type of rival like Westbrook and Durant being former teammates add something special to it I do actually consider them rivals but usually it's a match up thing but special talent can exceed that so Brandon right some time gil just want to argue
@@broadnax65 bro Nick got a “ idgaf” attitude and Kenyon tries to bully and make everyone scared.. it’s hard to do that with a mf who laugh square in yo face😂😂
He right on most takes but is wayyyyy the fuck off on this one😳………….thats the problem with him is that when he’s on he’s on when he’s off he’s outer space off! 😂😂🤦🏽♂️
@@joshuarivera1336literally curry was never a match for bron wtf they acting like kd just went there like they ain’t call him crying for him to get there lol
Magic guarded bigger players and was guarded by bigger players. Dude is 6’9. It doesn’t matter what position you list him at. Defenses needed to adjust. He literally played center in his rookie year title clincher.
@@MartyLeonXIIIGamingRight and not even double p really…….like this post said it was more the organizations than even Steph because it was the entire golden state group! 🤨🤷🏽♂️
U must be in your 30s because u speaking facts. Only people who don't remember his struggles against Boston and San Antonio know that all 3 of em GsW included was Bron rival at one point
@@funkyfreshkid08dude.. that still doesn’t change the fact that magic played the point guard position… Gil said you can’t be in a rivalry with someone who plays a different position yet Magic was a PG and Bird was a SF
@@shemar2000 but we all are aware that if magic was 6ft 1 larry likely wouldn't be guarding him bc he's the actual size of a pg. We don't have to be dense about it. Bron Ad Rui Vando knect are on the court vs Kawhi Harden zubac Powell and mann. Bron is running pg all game but kawhi is guarding him....I repeat BRON IS RUNNING PG ALL GAME! I repeat Bron is LISTED as pg. There are Bron stats for every position so we know it's possible for SF LEBRON JAMES to be listed at PG, SG, PF OR C. I understand you want to act like this doesn't matter or doesn't happen, but it does. And that's ok
Dudes an absolute clown tho, big bron hater clearly. Talked shit like the first finals it was all curry why they won’t don’t mention kyrie, and k-love getting hurt, next year everyone healthy Cleveland wins, GSW have to bring in kd to actually be dominant. Dudes weird
@@jynx464you didn’t watch them head to head…until he got to Miami Melo owned the matchup against LeBron. It didn’t turn until Bron got to South Beach and he linked with Wade.
@@pierremillienjr600 my guy lebron out performed him every year and melo only won because he had the better teams.I hate it when people act like lebron was a bum before he joined the heat,he had 2 whole mvps and a finals appearance with the worst finals team ever(something melo couldn’t do in his whole career)
@@jynx464 Melo still Bodied Bron when they Met. Regardless who had the better year. Remember Melo packing him up and send him Crying after a dagger fade away.
@@elijahwilliams3728 I ain’t saying all that.. KD definitely had a better roster career wise. Even though I agree with your beginning statement.. KD is a scorer, Bron is a pass first player.. Bron really never thought about giving KD 40
😂😂😂 Gil fell flat on his face with this whole debate from the jump. Steph vs Lebron is a thing because simply, whatever team Lebron is on vs Steph and GSW
@ayetrxgic naw not really ....... idl if it's cause it's his show or what but he's clearly on another level with ...It's tiring as a viewer so i know it's tiring irl
Right like saying Cleveland v GS is a rivalry,😂… as if anyone cared about them two teams playing each other before or after Bron was back there after Miami… no one ever cared about Cleveland v GS without Bron and Steph. 🤦🏽♂️😂
SPURAS? Spurs destroyed Bron GSW? DEstroyed Bron BOSTON? It didn't become a rival till he joined wade and bosh Detroit?! They were washed ASF and they don't have that much history due to them disbanding. LeBron does not rival whole teams at all especially when he has his own super team
I can't stand the way Brandon Jennings has to get really loud and emotional every single time they have a meaningless debate... Dude argues like an emotional teenage girl
Crazy thing is he has good points at times but when you basically pouting b/c somebody opinion is different from yours you can't be taken seriously. Like bro just debate your point without getting in your feelings😂
Jokic and the Nuggets has won 12 games out of the last 13 games versus LeBron and the Lakers. And the Nuggets eliminated the Lakers from the playoffs in '23 and '24.
I’d like to see LeBron vs Vince Carter or Scottie pippen meeting him at rim and perimeter defense Scottie has and his one on one d! Pip stripped the best ballers
It was supposed to be Kobe but bron didn't start winning till like 2012 lol. They were in the league together from 2003 until 2016. They had Kobe vs bron commercials and Kobe was going at LeBron at all star games
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All respect Gil you’re wrong…Steph and Bron is a rivalry people don’t need to have the same position for it to be a “rivalry” and since when does LeBron just play forward? Lol you’re not making sense…
All the young kids wear Steph shoes. Same reason why 5 year old kids are chucking up airball 3's all game. But you right, grown players ain't wearing his shit. It's Jordans, Kobes or Lebrons.
My thoughts exactly. He's getting match up vs Rivalry mixed up. But this looks like some paid under the table talk from Gil ngl. Tryna control narratives 🤷🏻♂️
Thats so wrong. LeBron v KD is the true rivalry. You have to know your basketball before 2015. Go back to 2011 when OKC & MIA were both in conference Finals, everyone was hyping up KD v Bron (Dallas got in both guys way). The anticipation for 2012 season/Finals was for OKC v MIA. Summer 2011 we had the KD/Bron workouts (the media ripping them), the lockout matchups (KD literally going at LeBron), the MVP chase all season and then the NBA Finals (and Olympics). If KD wins that Heat Big 3 is broken up and this becomes KD's decade, instead LeBron wins and its his decade of dominance. Kobe was just about to fall off, and both KD & LeBron were in the race to be the face of the NBA and Nike. KD v LeBron have played in 14 NBA finals games and each average over 31 on high efficiency. They go at each other.
Ain't no damn rivalry. Steph only playoff win without KD is that hurt 2015 team. He 3-1 against curry without KD in playoff games. Curry fans don't wanna update dat resume 😭
1. Paul Pierce 2. Kobe Bryant (even without Finals) 3. Kevin Durant 4. Warriors 🗣️Saying Curry is insulting to LeBron. If LeBron would face Steph on equal terms Warriors would probably sit on ring vs Celtics.
1:05 gil does the absolute most to defend LeBron. Blatantly contradicting himself.. its the same position... Then proceeded to say bird and mj.. he slow or what??? That paycheck still clearing from klutch... And light skin biggie said iggy and LeBron,... What a joke
BROOOOOO the hindsight is crazyyyyyy if they really act like KD wasn’t challenging LeBron for best player??? Like yah players were scared of established LeBron but acting like KD to warriors made him in the convo then LeBron was never clear best player until he went to Miami. They both got an mvp and with 1 finals appearance trying to get over the hump
KD joining GSW, the team that beat him so that they all together can beat LeBron automatically excludes him from being a challenger to anything. That's like if LeBron joined the Spurs after he lost to them.
@ oh got it I forgot the rule of automatic disqualification. Like for me I thought lebron couldn’t win mvp when you have 2 other consistent all star in Miami like they treated shaq/kobe but he won some 🤷🏻♂️ alsooooooo my comment was more isolating the thunder era of KD career. After warriors era yah you can do with that decision however
I think it's more KD cause the only time Steph beat Bron before KD was when LeBron's 2nd & 3rd best players were out (Love & Kyrie). Meanwhile Bron & KD went head up in Miami vs OKC & CLE vs GSW.
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Ok Gil’s takes have been atrocious of late especially this one, so bird and magic was a rivalry because of what they went to the finals multiple times AND DIDNT PLAY THE SAME POSITION same wit Steph and Lebron literally are we actually going to forget that curry’s two MVP seasons HE LITERALLY got in the way of Lebrons LEGACY if Lebron didn’t exist Steph would prolly be the best player OAT and let me address nick young Smfh 0:19 CAN WE PLEASE STOP GIVING A GUY CREDIT OVER THE GUY THAT HAS BEEN BEATING KD FOR YEARS NOW in every aspect it’s just disrespectful at this point, your saying KD is the reason for the success over curry YET curry BEAT THAT SAME GUY the previous year TO GET TO THE FINALS 😂it literally doesn’t make sense not to mention that got curry win a chip with him and hasn’t won one since yet the guy who you guys are saying isn’t the reason of the 2017 2018 success HE ACTUALLY WON A CHIP WITHOUT HIM 😂😂AVERAGED 30+ wtf are we actually talking about here what’s really going. Your still saying he was the reason for our success yet it’s proven that I can win without him and he can’t without me really??????that’s what we’re doing😂😂😂
@ lmao brotha THEY WENT 73-9 and in reality SHOULDA WON THE CHIP THEY WENT 7 GAMES IN THE FINALS are we seriously just going to bull and void 73-9 what’s going on here
I respect it honestly. He definitely does it on purpose to make sure everyone stays engaged on the couch/doesn't zone out leaving gaps in convo. He's a professional fr
LeBron and Steph ARE a rivalry because their legacies were affected the most. Even before KD ruined the competitive swing of things, they met 2 times prior going 1-1. History will never be the same because of those moments.
Why do you blame kd for ruining it? The warriors recruited him clearly Steph wanted him there. Plus kd already had faced bron in the finals in 2012 you probably too young to remember that tho
Tf being a better scorer has to do with him being bron’s actual rival 😅. The man leads in all scorers for one, just because the aesthetic ain’t pretty doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. And two, bron is more of a rival to organizations…but if there was ever one sole face that would be deemed worthy it is by far Steph, hell the truth is more of a bron rival than fxxking Kd 😅
@@CallMeFVLL the man leads an all scorers but when they play Head the Head KD averages more and has more wins in the playoffs like two to one what are you talking about?
@@MagicEmpireTV he only became relevant after joining who, I’ll wait bruh bruh lol. Of fxxking course Kd is gonna be able to get his shxt off once he’s on the same team as STEPH. If he did it in okc you’d have an argument, but a blind man could get 20 if MFs are busy chasing curry axx screen after screen lol
@@MagicEmpireTV Steph and Lebron have played 52times and Curry is 29-23. 17-11 in the playoffs. Curry is definitely a rival to Lebron, if Curry wins his 5th ring you don’t someone wouldn’t argue he surpassed LBJ.
How? Steph got two mps. The only unanimous one during a Lebron era. He broke the bulls record. We talk about KD because he’s an absolute dawg. But rivalry is about accolades also. What’s your argument.
@@underdogs3700 valid points that you make but my argument is they have always been compared. They faced off in the finals first \’d faced off 3 times in the finals ultimately. KD got the 2 fmvps and bron got the other one during their head to heads in the finals.
@@Cuzzo3497 True but those KD FMVPs came during the Steph era. Steph was the one that won a chip, broke records and took back to back MVP during that era. Yes as far as KD rivalry to be the best player in the world, sure. But when you look at it as whole Steph is Bron’s ultimate rival. KD has only been in the Finals twice his whole carrer. And trust me I love me some KD.
The debate of who is the best player overall, or even at a certain position, doesn’t make it rivalry. It would have to be the organic dislike and disdain for one another when the players meet. That can’t be manufactured or contrived.
Steph vs Bron is a rivalry for best player of this generation like Kobe vs Duncan is of the previous generation, the obvious answers seem to be Bron and Kobe but Steph and Duncan have great arguments and may have had more success depending how you look at it... what makes Lebron crazy is he was damn near in the argument during the Kobe and Duncan generation as well he just didn't have the squad to win the rings
Brandon looking away during these arguments is so telling. The kid is completely insecure and unsure of his own words that he doesn't look anyone in the eye to avoid being challenged. He is deflecting his own vulnerability. Trying sooo hard to overcompensate for his fundamental lack of knowledge and/or lack of confidence in what he is saying. lol Such an irritating thing to watch
No he's not insecure sir he's just fed up with the bull crap Gil is spitting by trying to push Lebron not having a rival which we all know that's a lie
@bigjuni2102 they all do. Brandon legit start trying to talk over everyone when he on the back foot. This whole show reminds me of always sunny. Mfs just yelling over each other and not even saying anything most of the time 😂
Rivalries are more about how much the rivals don't like each other more than the record they have against each other. There are 3 types of rivalries : 1. Team to team rivalry Eg Boston v Lakers in the 80s 2. Team player rivalry Eg Jordan v Bad boys Detroit, Trey Young v Knicks, Lebron v Warriors 3. Players to player. These rivalries typically don't last long Eg Magic v Bird, Kawhi v Bron (briefly),
How i wish you could have said how kd carried okc 2. . . to where? its a team play. . . steph getting double tripled blitz mid court. . . just sucks for lebron cause stephs team that time were the avengers😂😂😂...
Bron vs Steph carried the league for 6 years straight. The nba is missing a real rivalry ever since
It was 4 years y’all add an extra year every time
They were the faces of the league and best 2 teams but as players I don't see rivalry at all. They barely guard each other. It was Kd vs Lebron when he got to golden stats.. kyrie vs steph was the match up
@@m6bimmer30 that doesn’t mean anything tho… When they about the top to people in the era is LeBron and Steph… even tho KD is a better player
Curry wasn’t even the best player when they went back to back 😂😂😂so how did he carry anything
Yeah they carry it into a brick 🧱 Wall
Gil is slow.
His argument dies when he say LeBron and Steph can’t be rivals because they don’t play the same position, but then say Bird and Magic were rivals when they didn’t play the same position.
so stupid lol
Yea he’s an idiot at times lmao
Magic and bird did not guard each other 😂
I'll shoot him bail and say that Bird & Magic were at least similar sizes so it's not a mismatch but I still believe you can be rivals and not the same position
Word he’s tripping, they played each other for like 4-5 years straight they’re definitely rivals
You a fan shut the fxk up and let the players talk that y'all problem now think y'all know more than the players
What do you mean what I’m talking about!? IM TALKING 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ts had me crying 😂😂
mane that boy representing “tuff crowd” with emphasis 😂😂😂😂
I clearly remember Kobe’s rival being Shaq. When asked what Kobe’s 5th ring meant to him he reply “Got one more than Shaq”
Sorry Gil take a walk with this one bro!
They didn't match up go head to head they didn't guard each other they didn't play in the championships against each other
That's different type of rival like Westbrook and Durant being former teammates add something special to it I do actually consider them rivals but usually it's a match up thing but special talent can exceed that so Brandon right some time gil just want to argue
When Brandon Jennings said “What do you mean what am I talkin about? I’m talkin! 😂😂😂
The way Gil moves the goal post around should be an Olympic sport.😂
Facts! Someone’s paying him to push narrative. Cuz Gil is actually hoop smart with no pretend bias in way
Facts!
He says the dumbest shit
He be moving it like a mf, then he Start hollering 🤣🤣🤣
Real rival is Nick and Kenyon 😂😂😂
Since they play different positions, they’re not rivals. According to Gilbert. 🤣🤡
“I’m not tussling witcho big ass”😂😂
Stg 😂😂😂 it’s like he be tryna punk nick every episode… you can tell he don’t like nick for sum reason and idk why
@@ItsVampWrld 😂😂 mans was deadass
@@broadnax65 bro Nick got a “ idgaf” attitude and Kenyon tries to bully and make everyone scared.. it’s hard to do that with a mf who laugh square in yo face😂😂
Gil: "A rivalry is player at the same position verses player"
Also Gil: "The rivalry is Trae Young vs. Knicks"
Dude said it's players at the same position and then said Magic vs Bird. A walking contradiction.
@@thatnicekid04 his first example was Magic and Bird
@@chabangers3337 facts 😆 🤣
@@nicholasbrathwaite1582 facts 😆 🤣
@@nicholasbrathwaite1582 in the 80s they played 2 different positions but guarded each other it was weird
Gil literally just be saying shit 🤦🏾♂️
Bruh anything
He right on most takes but is wayyyyy the fuck off on this one😳………….thats the problem with him is that when he’s on he’s on when he’s off he’s outer space off! 😂😂🤦🏽♂️
Stop the cap when kd was on gs ya was saying kd the best over bron both sf who always been matched up from mia okc to clev gs
Yea at this point Gil jus be wanting to argue
@@joshuarivera1336literally curry was never a match for bron wtf they acting like kd just went there like they ain’t call him crying for him to get there lol
“How much are they paying you” 😂😂😂 damnnn BJ
“Ain’t been hot since bone thugs n harmony” 😂
The rivalry is LeBron vs GSW
🎯
Bro facts
No
Dumb comment d rider
Adam Silva vs Lebron...& Bron plays the 3 Kd plays the 4
So now Magic is a SF 😂 but people say he’s the greatest Point Guard …
Gil love moving goal posts 😂
Gilbert has become the dumbest analyst, will make idiotic statements to win arguments.
@ OnGod 😂 he literally has Magic 2nd on the list as best PG when him , mccants & brandon gave their top 5 PG’s
That part😂
Magic guarded bigger players and was guarded by bigger players. Dude is 6’9. It doesn’t matter what position you list him at. Defenses needed to adjust. He literally played center in his rookie year title clincher.
"how much are they paying you.". 😂
The realist line said on Gills Arena
😂😂😂😂
Exactly 💯
gil change his mood instantly 😂😂😂
B Jennings was just as wrong as Gil
As a Lebron Fan, Bro's real rivals were organizations. The Spurs, The Warriors, The Celtics,...
Only Kawhi but for a very brief moment. Kawhi was Bron's real arch nemesis
@@RuntheCompound Not really, I would argue Paul Pierce had a better "rivalry" with Lebron.
@@MartyLeonXIIIGamingRight and not even double p really…….like this post said it was more the organizations than even Steph because it was the entire golden state group! 🤨🤷🏽♂️
U must be in your 30s because u speaking facts. Only people who don't remember his struggles against Boston and San Antonio know that all 3 of em GsW included was Bron rival at one point
LeBron’s rival was Steph
“A rivalry is two players that play the same position” 0:46 well what the fuck was Magic and Bird Gil. Now Magic is a Small forward 😂😂
To be fair magic was big enough to play any position
That pissed me off so bad when he said that because ones a PG ones a SF 😂
good point
but to be fair , Gil doesn’t consider Magic a guard , he lists Magic and LeBron as the same position
Gil needs his head examined top 5 point guards of all time magic is number 1, and the top small forwards of all time magic is nowhere to be seen lol
At this point these guys look like they're in costumes even when they're in their regular fits
I immediately looked at the screen and that's crazy. 😂
For a kid who grew up in LA u would think Gil would knowledge what position Magic played
Gil point is that Magic is a sf that plays pg. A lot like bron. They both are sf size playing pg.
@@funkyfreshkid08dude.. that still doesn’t change the fact that magic played the point guard position… Gil said you can’t be in a rivalry with someone who plays a different position yet Magic was a PG and Bird was a SF
@@shemar2000 but we all are aware that if magic was 6ft 1 larry likely wouldn't be guarding him bc he's the actual size of a pg.
We don't have to be dense about it.
Bron Ad Rui Vando knect are on the court vs Kawhi Harden zubac Powell and mann.
Bron is running pg all game but kawhi is guarding him....I repeat BRON IS RUNNING PG ALL GAME! I repeat Bron is LISTED as pg.
There are Bron stats for every position so we know it's possible for SF LEBRON JAMES to be listed at PG, SG, PF OR C.
I understand you want to act like this doesn't matter or doesn't happen, but it does. And that's ok
@@funkyfreshkid08Magic was a pf not a sf
@@Nuthinnull even if I was to grant you that, which I don't, it still doesn't negate the point that magic was the height of big forwards.
Kobe vs LeBron was like Cena vs Randy Orton 😂shit was prime time even when they didnt play each other
08:09 Did BJ really finally call out Gil?? He finally sick of his Clutch talking point BS
Nah Bro 1:54 Got Me In Tears “Nobody Wants To See That Shit”
Dudes an absolute clown tho, big bron hater clearly. Talked shit like the first finals it was all curry why they won’t don’t mention kyrie, and k-love getting hurt, next year everyone healthy Cleveland wins, GSW have to bring in kd to actually be dominant. Dudes weird
“Wym what I’m talking about, I’m talking!” 😂
What does that even mean? 😂
Melo vs Lebron been a rival since high school 🤷🏾♂️
After their rookie years,it wasn’t close
@@jynx464you didn’t watch them head to head…until he got to Miami Melo owned the matchup against LeBron. It didn’t turn until Bron got to South Beach and he linked with Wade.
@@pierremillienjr600 my guy lebron out performed him every year and melo only won because he had the better teams.I hate it when people act like lebron was a bum before he joined the heat,he had 2 whole mvps and a finals appearance with the worst finals team ever(something melo couldn’t do in his whole career)
@@jynx464 Melo still Bodied Bron when they Met. Regardless who had the better year. Remember Melo packing him up and send him Crying after a dagger fade away.
He might be too young to remember when LeBron didn't want to guard Melo at all .. doesn't mean Melo a better player but it what it is@@shuny11r23
KD v Bron was a rival. Even when KD was on the Thunder he was saying how he was tired of being 2nd 💯
People forget KD outplays him Everytime they match up in the playoffs. Bron just had the better team they first matched up
@@elijahwilliams3728exactly! KD averages 32 ppg against Bron.
@@elijahwilliams3728 I ain’t saying all that.. KD definitely had a better roster career wise.
Even though I agree with your beginning statement.. KD is a scorer, Bron is a pass first player.. Bron really never thought about giving KD 40
@@X.O.E.he dropped 52 on em game 1 of 2018 finals
@ that’s not Bron’s game.. again. That’s not his mentality to give you 40pts everytime. He’s a pass first player
😂😂😂 Gil fell flat on his face with this whole debate from the jump. Steph vs Lebron is a thing because simply, whatever team Lebron is on vs Steph and GSW
When Gil said Bird & Magic were both Small Forwards I lit the backwood immediately 😂
Even magic played pg but he was built like a small forward cause he 6’9 thats why they had bird and magic match up against each other in games
"How much are they paying you, shit"... LMAO..
“How much are they paying you!” By BJ is the right question. Klutch is working overtime to diminish Steph😁
That Klutch money made Gil sell his soul and credibility
How does this diminish stepg
BJ tryna diminish kd that was the rivalry kd vs bron curry vs kyrie Cleveland vs warriors is a rivalry
It has to be draining working with Gil he think he right about every thing
Mann
Gotta be.
That’s everybody on the couch
@ayetrxgic naw not really ....... idl if it's cause it's his show or what but he's clearly on another level with ...It's tiring as a viewer so i know it's tiring irl
He don’t THINK he right about everything, he KNOW he is 😂 convinced of himself. He like the black skip bayless but used to ball
Gil could win an award for saying the dumbest take the loudest.
Right like saying Cleveland v GS is a rivalry,😂… as if anyone cared about them two teams playing each other before or after Bron was back there after Miami… no one ever cared about Cleveland v GS without Bron and Steph. 🤦🏽♂️😂
"How much are they paying you" 😂
he killed him😅
Gil was wrong for the entire conversation lol
B Jennings was too
Exactly!
Lebron rivals whole teams. Never just one player
Spurs
Boston
Detroit
GSW
Toronto
Jason Terry his rival tbh
SPURAS? Spurs destroyed Bron
GSW? DEstroyed Bron
BOSTON? It didn't become a rival till he joined wade and bosh
Detroit?! They were washed ASF and they don't have that much history due to them disbanding.
LeBron does not rival whole teams at all especially when he has his own super team
@@YetiCoolBrotherBron destroyed Toronto not a rivalry
😂 you wrong for that@@RealParadox85
The way you explain things is amazing!
Bot alert 😂😂
I can't stand the way Brandon Jennings has to get really loud and emotional every single time they have a meaningless debate... Dude argues like an emotional teenage girl
He da goat
U just dont like the argument
Crazy thing is he has good points at times but when you basically pouting b/c somebody opinion is different from yours you can't be taken seriously. Like bro just debate your point without getting in your feelings😂
This is dumb 😂
Lmmfao...all facts!
Growing up.. it was
Lebron vs Kobe
Lebron vs Curry
Lebron vs KD
Lebron vs GSW 🔥
And Lebron vs Boston and LeBron vs SA
Jokic and the Nuggets has won 12 games out of the last 13 games versus LeBron and the Lakers. And the Nuggets eliminated the Lakers from the playoffs in '23 and '24.
When was it against gsw im still tryin to figure was Steph not the most fearable Guy to guard is Steph must be easy to guard with your oq narrative
Facts!
I’d like to see LeBron vs Vince Carter or Scottie pippen meeting him at rim and perimeter defense Scottie has and his one on one d! Pip stripped the best ballers
KM's face @ 6:53 is priceless 🤣
It was supposed to be Kobe but bron didn't start winning till like 2012 lol. They were in the league together from 2003 until 2016. They had Kobe vs bron commercials and Kobe was going at LeBron at all star games
Bron ain’t want the smoke.
Big FACTS ‼️
Nick vs Kenyon is hilarious 😂
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All respect Gil you’re wrong…Steph and Bron is a rivalry people don’t need to have the same position for it to be a “rivalry” and since when does LeBron just play forward? Lol you’re not making sense…
Jennings always goes 0-100 rq 😂
LBJ vs MJ's Ghost
facts that is lebron’s only true rival
Exactly @@toerawyea
Which ain't no contest because MJ can't be caught
No debate 💯
I've never seen but one person wearing Curry's in real life, tons of LeBron shoes. So i don't know how he sales so many, unless it's suburban kids.
🧢 no 1 wears lebron shoes 🙄
Because you’re not a hooper or coach and actually in the gym with kids. In 2016 all you saw kids wearing in small fry and AAU were Curry’s
Never seen anyone wearing that shit
All the young kids wear Steph shoes. Same reason why 5 year old kids are chucking up airball 3's all game. But you right, grown players ain't wearing his shit. It's Jordans, Kobes or Lebrons.
@@marquettegloves9907 my son is such a Curry fanboy it's ridiculous. But even he says he doesn't want to wear no ugly Curry under armor shoes.
Curry vs lebron is a rivalry LeBron vs kd was a matchup. Gil being Gil again 🙄
My thoughts exactly. He's getting match up vs Rivalry mixed up. But this looks like some paid under the table talk from Gil ngl. Tryna control narratives 🤷🏻♂️
If it's Bron vs Curry. Steph loses that matchup everytime. Only reason it's a rivalry is cause Curry got Draymond Klay and Iggy backing him up
Thats so wrong. LeBron v KD is the true rivalry. You have to know your basketball before 2015. Go back to 2011 when OKC & MIA were both in conference Finals, everyone was hyping up KD v Bron (Dallas got in both guys way). The anticipation for 2012 season/Finals was for OKC v MIA. Summer 2011 we had the KD/Bron workouts (the media ripping them), the lockout matchups (KD literally going at LeBron), the MVP chase all season and then the NBA Finals (and Olympics). If KD wins that Heat Big 3 is broken up and this becomes KD's decade, instead LeBron wins and its his decade of dominance. Kobe was just about to fall off, and both KD & LeBron were in the race to be the face of the NBA and Nike. KD v LeBron have played in 14 NBA finals games and each average over 31 on high efficiency. They go at each other.
@@jjballers81 paragraph.. didn’t read, don’t care
Ain't no damn rivalry. Steph only playoff win without KD is that hurt 2015 team. He 3-1 against curry without KD in playoff games. Curry fans don't wanna update dat resume 😭
1. Paul Pierce
2. Kobe Bryant (even without Finals)
3. Kevin Durant
4. Warriors 🗣️Saying Curry is insulting to LeBron. If LeBron would face Steph on equal terms Warriors would probably sit on ring vs Celtics.
1:05 gil does the absolute most to defend LeBron. Blatantly contradicting himself.. its the same position... Then proceeded to say bird and mj.. he slow or what??? That paycheck still clearing from klutch... And light skin biggie said iggy and LeBron,... What a joke
BROOOOOO the hindsight is crazyyyyyy if they really act like KD wasn’t challenging LeBron for best player??? Like yah players were scared of established LeBron but acting like KD to warriors made him in the convo then LeBron was never clear best player until he went to Miami. They both got an mvp and with 1 finals appearance trying to get over the hump
KD joining GSW, the team that beat him so that they all together can beat LeBron automatically excludes him from being a challenger to anything. That's like if LeBron joined the Spurs after he lost to them.
@ oh got it I forgot the rule of automatic disqualification. Like for me I thought lebron couldn’t win mvp when you have 2 other consistent all star in Miami like they treated shaq/kobe but he won some 🤷🏻♂️ alsooooooo my comment was more isolating the thunder era of KD career. After warriors era yah you can do with that decision however
Kawhi was also challenging Lebron for best player so was Steph. Whats your point.
@ what’s your point?
The KD slander is mad crazyyyy
Steph is Lebron's biggest rival for sure.
he's not. kd joining with steph is the biggest rialry
@@sportstalkonly1442facts
@@sportstalkonly1442you saying that like Bron ain't have wade and bosh to defeat a young kd
Steph owns Bron 3-1. Bron changed his game to shoot 3’s like Steph. Steph never tried to emulate Bron.
I think it's more KD cause the only time Steph beat Bron before KD was when LeBron's 2nd & 3rd best players were out (Love & Kyrie). Meanwhile Bron & KD went head up in Miami vs OKC & CLE vs GSW.
“I ain’t finna tussle withcho big ass” I was getting ready to end the video, glad I didn’t 😂
Second CP3 was mentioned BJ got pissed 😂😂
I'm so glaaaad. N.Young spoke to K.Mart cuzz that nga b on some bullying ish heavy craaazy work!
Nah Gil is right it’s not a rivalry Steph curry been busting LeBron ass. 3-1 🤡
Nick young for breakthrough host of the season 😂
He legit slid into the bron-kd debate chill af, helped BJ get his point together, and they packed up Gil who was on an island. Kenyon lowkey might've been on their side too so he let Gil get cooked the second half
Showing love from a OG Iowa hooper. Sending love n light to Kmart my fellow Capricorn. ♥️ ALSO RASHAD thanks for all ur unbiased support of cc!!! Thanks for calling a spade a spade n championing here! So authentic from one baller to another! Thanks for Lexi’s nice comment to cc as well!!! It’s always ok to say and do what’s right and kind. Thank u
So now to fit the argument.. Magic is a Small Forwaaard? 😂
Facts
Gil just be talkin smh. Be pissing me off with his silly ass takes. Dude 70% Airhead/30% logical
25 % logical / 25 % airhead / 25 % corrupt / 25 % racist
You can’t say Steph and Bron a rivalry if Steph never won finals mvp while playing him
This is almost as dumb as saying Bird and Magic played the same position lol
Your actually right because being honest is Kyrie didn’t get hurt Bron would have had 2 rings to Steph 0 🤷🏾♂️
@@cee119 they did guard each other? And won finals mvps??
You would rather say Iguodala and Lebron is a rivalry? Lmao these fans bro
@ literally never said that, the rivalry is the warriors vs lebron.
“ what do you mean what am i talkin about im talkin “ gotta love
b Jennings 🤣🤣🤣
Without kd curry has a losing record against Lebron
Without Curry KD ain’t sniffing the finals yet along having even 1 ring. Go cry in the corner and take all your girlfriends in the comments with you
No sir
@@ProfessorX-rayyes sir, mr lies to himself 😂😂😂😂😂
Without Kyrie Love and Anthony Davis, LeLoser would be winless against Curry
@@ProfessorX-ray3-1 without KD. Stop living in da past he been spanking dat ass in LA 💀
Ok Gil’s takes have been atrocious of late especially this one, so bird and magic was a rivalry because of what they went to the finals multiple times AND DIDNT PLAY THE SAME POSITION same wit Steph and Lebron literally are we actually going to forget that curry’s two MVP seasons HE LITERALLY got in the way of Lebrons LEGACY if Lebron didn’t exist Steph would prolly be the best player OAT and let me address nick young Smfh 0:19 CAN WE PLEASE STOP GIVING A GUY CREDIT OVER THE GUY THAT HAS BEEN BEATING KD FOR YEARS NOW in every aspect it’s just disrespectful at this point, your saying KD is the reason for the success over curry YET curry BEAT THAT SAME GUY the previous year TO GET TO THE FINALS 😂it literally doesn’t make sense not to mention that got curry win a chip with him and hasn’t won one since yet the guy who you guys are saying isn’t the reason of the 2017 2018 success HE ACTUALLY WON A CHIP WITHOUT HIM 😂😂AVERAGED 30+ wtf are we actually talking about here what’s really going. Your still saying he was the reason for our success yet it’s proven that I can win without him and he can’t without me really??????that’s what we’re doing😂😂😂
The warriors without KD wouldn’t be dominating the way they were can you agree with that?
@ lmao brotha THEY WENT 73-9 and in reality SHOULDA WON THE CHIP THEY WENT 7 GAMES IN THE FINALS are we seriously just going to bull and void 73-9 what’s going on here
DAMN GIL YOU WRONG AGAIN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Loud and wrong!
Gil “What are you Talking about”
Bj “I’m Talking” lol
“D.amn how much is they paying you”😂😂
Kenyon be hating on Nick in real life🤣🤣
Ol Christmas tree is in his feelings. 😂😂😂 Boy looks like he’s about to cry in the car on every debate.😂
Gil just a sellout like Shannon sharpe
These ninjas are the worst argue-ers EVER!
Look at Gil's face.. He doesn't believe what he's saying either 😂😂😂
I respect it honestly. He definitely does it on purpose to make sure everyone stays engaged on the couch/doesn't zone out leaving gaps in convo. He's a professional fr
I agree with Gil 💯. Bron vs KD is more of a Rival then Bron vs Steph
LeBron and Steph ARE a rivalry because their legacies were affected the most. Even before KD ruined the competitive swing of things, they met 2 times prior going 1-1. History will never be the same because of those moments.
Why do you blame kd for ruining it? The warriors recruited him clearly Steph wanted him there. Plus kd already had faced bron in the finals in 2012 you probably too young to remember that tho
@@emaan3259KD didn’t have to go.
fr, before he left they were 3-1 up to the golden state, 1 win away from battling bron, bro didnt need to go 💀 @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@@emaan3259KD never beat Lebron without Steph. Steph beat Lebron before KD. One finals appearance in 2012 is nothinh
How much are they paying 🤣😂🤣
they met in the finals 4 straight times and Curry was not the finals MVP in any meeting. He was not Bron's rival lol
FACTS 😂
Iggy has Curry’s MVP. 🗣️
Nonsense …iggy was given Steph’s mvp tf….Steph still beat em
Facts
what a fucking casual lmao. Ur really gonna look me in the eye and say iggy deserved mvp over curry. Stop dick eating
Gil thinks getting louder makes him right. Mane flat out said magic Johnson was a small forward 😂😂😂😂
It's funny when Gil wants to say LeBron vs Kobe he uses team record against each other. 😂
B Jennings is wildin the f out lol
Mr. B and Swaggy off of this one...ijs. They have been on record saying how much they think KD is the best scorer...now they saying nobody cares...
Tf being a better scorer has to do with him being bron’s actual rival 😅. The man leads in all scorers for one, just because the aesthetic ain’t pretty doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. And two, bron is more of a rival to organizations…but if there was ever one sole face that would be deemed worthy it is by far Steph, hell the truth is more of a bron rival than fxxking Kd 😅
@@CallMeFVLL the man leads an all scorers but when they play Head the Head KD averages more and has more wins in the playoffs like two to one what are you talking about?
@@MagicEmpireTV he only became relevant after joining who, I’ll wait bruh bruh lol. Of fxxking course Kd is gonna be able to get his shxt off once he’s on the same team as STEPH. If he did it in okc you’d have an argument, but a blind man could get 20 if MFs are busy chasing curry axx screen after screen lol
@@MagicEmpireTV Steph and Lebron have played 52times and Curry is 29-23. 17-11 in the playoffs. Curry is definitely a rival to Lebron, if Curry wins his 5th ring you don’t someone wouldn’t argue he surpassed LBJ.
@ I get it but I thought rivals actually stick each other some after some don’t I have twins one agrees with you the other with me it’s all good
lmao Lexie is like Molly off first take.her opinions don't matter🤣
Facts
LOL HE SAID HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING YOU 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Tatum vs Brown" 😂
Bron vs KD is the real rivalry
How? Steph got two mps. The only unanimous one during a Lebron era. He broke the bulls record. We talk about KD because he’s an absolute dawg. But rivalry is about accolades also. What’s your argument.
Yet KD couldn’t beat Lebron without his lightskin buddy to carry him
@@underdogs3700 valid points that you make but my argument is they have always been compared. They faced off in the finals first \’d faced off 3 times in the finals ultimately. KD got the 2 fmvps and bron got the other one during their head to heads in the finals.
@@bigjuni2102 I agree but they needed each other lbvs . Bron would have 6/7 rings if they never teamed up
@@Cuzzo3497 True but those KD FMVPs came during the Steph era. Steph was the one that won a chip, broke records and took back to back MVP during that era. Yes as far as KD rivalry to be the best player in the world, sure. But when you look at it as whole Steph is Bron’s ultimate rival. KD has only been in the Finals twice his whole carrer. And trust me I love me some KD.
Gil: What are you talking about
BJ: Wym what I’m talking about, I’M TALKING
😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Brandon so sassy😂
The debate of who is the best player overall, or even at a certain position, doesn’t make it rivalry. It would have to be the organic dislike and disdain for one another when the players meet. That can’t be manufactured or contrived.
Steph vs Bron is a rivalry for best player of this generation like Kobe vs Duncan is of the previous generation, the obvious answers seem to be Bron and Kobe but Steph and Duncan have great arguments and may have had more success depending how you look at it... what makes Lebron crazy is he was damn near in the argument during the Kobe and Duncan generation as well he just didn't have the squad to win the rings
Brandon looking away during these arguments is so telling. The kid is completely insecure and unsure of his own words that he doesn't look anyone in the eye to avoid being challenged. He is deflecting his own vulnerability. Trying sooo hard to overcompensate for his fundamental lack of knowledge and/or lack of confidence in what he is saying. lol Such an irritating thing to watch
No he's not insecure sir he's just fed up with the bull crap Gil is spitting by trying to push Lebron not having a rival which we all know that's a lie
@@vitosmith8195 Brandon is obviously a nervous person.
Brandon be yapping sometimes 😂
why is he soooo saucy lmfao
And Gil dont?😂
@bigjuni2102 they all do. Brandon legit start trying to talk over everyone when he on the back foot. This whole show reminds me of always sunny. Mfs just yelling over each other and not even saying anything most of the time 😂
It’s crazy because the media was pushing that it was a significant rivalry between LeBron and Kawhi
Rivalries are more about how much the rivals don't like each other more than the record they have against each other. There are 3 types of rivalries :
1. Team to team rivalry Eg Boston v Lakers in the 80s
2. Team player rivalry Eg Jordan v Bad boys Detroit, Trey Young v Knicks, Lebron v Warriors
3. Players to player. These rivalries typically don't last long Eg Magic v Bird, Kawhi v Bron (briefly),
so by gil’s logic, the 2 best players on opposing teams can’t ever be rivals unless they’re the same position 😂
Kenyon be sitting back letting the group talk while he analyzizes and thinks of his input lol
Golden state got carried by KD for 3 straight years.
How i wish you could have said how kd carried okc 2. . . to where? its a team play. . . steph getting double tripled blitz mid court. . . just sucks for lebron cause stephs team that time were the avengers😂😂😂...
Gil: What are you talking about
BJ : What do you mean what am I talking about am talking 😂😂😂
"how much are they paying you?" EXACTLY!
It’s Curry vs Bron and KD vs Bron. If the NBA didn’t hate on Kyrie for not taking the Vaccine KD wins another championship.
You don’t gotta be the same position to be a rivalry
Saying “rival” 4000 times with emphasis doesn’t make your answer valid Gil 😂
To think that Magic was a SF and you from LA😂😂😂😂
everybody contradicted themselves this episode 😂
I always thought brons first rival was Paul peirce. For like his first 8-10 years in the league.
The fact the Steph at 6’1 almost took over the lead is crazy bro, HE WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE THAT CLOSE.
“you wanna chew or you wanna talk?” 😭😭😂