It wouldn't be Blizz if one of their Legendary effects didn't immediately brick the game. I still remember how broken the first iteration of Shudderwock was. Hopefully, Blizz patches this to greatly truncate the effect.
I didn't even think of Hir'eek, such a shame. Day 1 I did the Tradeable chef in Warrior. Getting that guy to a 1 mana 100+ minion is fun! So many taunt buffs/duplicates in wild even before Shaffar.
For anyone curious, the big long animation that skipped turns in the first game went from 8:43 to 12:13, for a total of 3 mins and 30 secs...absolutely insane.
In legends of runeterra, there were certain interactions that would take absurd amounts of time to process, and then they added a feature where the game would fast forward to the game state after resolution
Wonder if it would be possible to start ramping up animation speeds after a number of cycles or something. Or is it impossible to program something like that
I mean, Mark used to do it with old shudder animations literal years ago, I think he's more than aware of it lol, he's not playing to be competitive, not for his videos anyway.
I wonder how a variant of this deck where you just rely on Clumsy Steward making a Jeklik temporary would work? With very few minions (Just Steward, Jeklik and Shaffar) you'd be able to tutor pretty well with Free Admission (Also Dark Portal). Then while you'd miss out on the copy effect amplifying the stacks, you'd instead get the exponential growth of always hitting the same minion and then playing that stacked minion the next turn.
@@PowerZordan temporary on jeklik means that she automatically gets discarded, so that you get more copies of her (along with the spellburst shaffar grants)
The fact that turn skipping through animations even still is a thing after all these years is shameful. Either speed them up massively, bundle them together in cases like this or put a hard cap on animations shown each turn. It's called a bugfix.
@@kingjezza6567 They do have something along the lines of having a time buffer between turns should animations go long for one turn. The issue is that it is still very small despite them increasing it over the years.
No. Specifically, because Spellburst triggers AFTER the spell is cast. Meaning in that situation, Shaffar is no longer on the board to have the Spellburst trigger.
@@tarille1043 My thought was that the stack would be spell cast, target minion, minion on board has ability that triggers from spell being cast so it casts it first, whiffs with no minions in hand then spell resolves sending it back to hand.
i assure you its not even complicated to make a check on both players to see if both of them are no longer watching animations also spellburst animation is as long as old poisonous
That's made to prevent otk apm strategy. If you download a mod that skipps animation you also would be banned. If you wondering why, then there was some bad peoples that played ignite mages without animations a d was drawing whole deck turn 3-4 and killing you from full health. They played around 30-40 cards on turn 3 that is impossible without mods. This peoples get to top 1-100 legend and they were just bullying normal players.
@@impkiller5932 call me old fashioned but I think blizzard should address decks like that specifically instead of making the entire game feel sluggish and non responsive
The first "big" minion comes down on turn 4 at best, considering shaffar and coin on opening. By that point you're already dead, and if not you're facing a deck that can easily deal with all the minions you play.
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It wouldn't be Blizz if one of their Legendary effects didn't immediately brick the game. I still remember how broken the first iteration of Shudderwock was. Hopefully, Blizz patches this to greatly truncate the effect.
that priest was a really good sport honestly
They respected the meme
i was expecting mindrender illucia boar to mark's face right there.
you found the only two priests that don't run 37 board clears
Blizzard showing off how to torture people with something as simple as an animation
the classic
My jaw that bites
*My claws that catch*
Hir'eek is finally broken.
10 000 years later😂
I dusted him years ago, nooooo
After many years of ignoring the card, he finally becomes playable 😂
@@ChaosBeta05 ironicly the threat of every immortal god-like demonic deity
I didn't even think of Hir'eek, such a shame. Day 1 I did the Tradeable chef in Warrior. Getting that guy to a 1 mana 100+ minion is fun! So many taunt buffs/duplicates in wild even before Shaffar.
Hir'eek is finally playable and broken at that. That’s so cool and funny. I loved watching the opponent try to play cards.
For anyone curious, the big long animation that skipped turns in the first game went from 8:43 to 12:13, for a total of 3 mins and 30 secs...absolutely insane.
He once did like a 50 minute animation. Not sure if that’s still possible.
In legends of runeterra, there were certain interactions that would take absurd amounts of time to process, and then they added a feature where the game would fast forward to the game state after resolution
Imagine that animation beeing sped up so it would look like 200 lightning bolts hit the boar juicing him up
The one time you want Priests to have infinite board clears they don't have them
The worst part is this feels like an almost viable deck as long as you can make nexus-prince a consistent draw just by summoning larger and larger men
Hats off to that first priest player for respecting the meme.
Wonder if it would be possible to start ramping up animation speeds after a number of cycles or something. Or is it impossible to program something like that
or make repeated spell bursts on the same minion happen immediately
animation speeds are slow on purpose to stop overzealous APM decks.
@@porovaaraBut it's exactly cases like this one where that consideration backfires. They sped up Shudderwock for essentially the same reason, too.
@@vaspeter2600 oh i dont agree with it all. i wish you could turn animations off completely.
@@porovaara you can for egregious cases like these by closing and reopening the game, although I would prefer a less janky method
Huzzah! A priest of quality!
8:39 ooh, Tyrande, "overwhelmed" is a huge understatement here
Do what dane does for these turn skipping combos... Open and close the game, which instantly resolves the animations on your side
The point of Mark's videos is to relish in the chaos and spaghetti, not to try to solve it
I mean, Mark used to do it with old shudder animations literal years ago, I think he's more than aware of it lol, he's not playing to be competitive, not for his videos anyway.
I wonder how a variant of this deck where you just rely on Clumsy Steward making a Jeklik temporary would work?
With very few minions (Just Steward, Jeklik and Shaffar) you'd be able to tutor pretty well with Free Admission (Also Dark Portal).
Then while you'd miss out on the copy effect amplifying the stacks, you'd instead get the exponential growth of always hitting the same minion and then playing that stacked minion the next turn.
Doesn't jeklik reset since she's adding copies of jeklik, not literally duplicating herself?
@@jerianaleonarcturus6759 No, she's literally making exact copies of herself.
Thus, any enchantments persist through the copying.
I don't get what having the temporary effect brings to the table, could you clarify that to me plz ?
@@PowerZordan temporary on jeklik means that she automatically gets discarded, so that you get more copies of her (along with the spellburst shaffar grants)
@@hihigocat Oh, I thought you were talking about Hir'eek, not Jeklik
Damn those stupid names
Do 100 holy wrath, sort deck + dredge + holy wrath can probably be done by turn 4
the boar broke into the handbuff cabinet and started injecting itself with everything
The fact that turn skipping through animations even still is a thing after all these years is shameful. Either speed them up massively, bundle them together in cases like this or put a hard cap on animations shown each turn. It's called a bugfix.
they need to add a "between turns" state... all animations etc finish during them.. and when they've all finished, the next turn counter starts....
It would be a featurefix, not a bugfix.
@@kingjezza6567 They do have something along the lines of having a time buffer between turns should animations go long for one turn. The issue is that it is still very small despite them increasing it over the years.
AHHAHAHAHAHA MARK WAS LIKE: "Fine, I'll do it myself"
If you have no minions in your hand, you play Nexus Prince Shaffar and then you Shadowstep it, will it go back to your hand and buff itself?
No
No.
Specifically, because Spellburst triggers AFTER the spell is cast. Meaning in that situation, Shaffar is no longer on the board to have the Spellburst trigger.
@@tarille1043 My thought was that the stack would be spell cast, target minion, minion on board has ability that triggers from spell being cast so it casts it first, whiffs with no minions in hand then spell resolves sending it back to hand.
bro u should do a deck intro time on the nexus prince shaffar OTK combo card that just got released
Finally, after 10 long years.....a point to hireek lul
now i understand the benefit of that element thanks mark
That priest was a GOATed opponent.
Big props to NoBuGaaa, legend
What are these oponents man, do they have hands?
they are from the great dark beyond, you can't understand these concepts above human consciousness
This right here must be the reason why Ben Brode introduced the auto fast forward in Snap!
Does pen flinger work?
Poseble try to build Val'onr Paladin with Reborn quest and this newcard, but I think it will still suck.
new deck intro just dropped
I really want to the next rotation they include The Bat Loa Hirek to standard and others
Hireek, grant me wings!
Only took like five years or so for Hi'reek to be moderately playable 😅
finally a mark deck when the classic priest do nothing for 1 billions turns deck is a bad matchup
Now that is overkill
handbuff warlock is finally a reality 😁
Hir'eek! Grant me wins!
This is genius XD
Obligatory "I did the math and it had a 50% chance of happening" comment
That was something
Do it again but with Cthun
Nozdormu 2.0 ? 😂
Get party planner voona in there, not to make the deck better but just to learn her voice line
...game over when the card is at turn 6 still in your deck....so winrate 10%
Let him cook bwahahahaha
i assure you its not even complicated to make a check on both players to see if both of them are no longer watching animations
also spellburst animation is as long as old poisonous
literal 5 minutes if animations
This deck seems... More viable than I thought it would be and perhaps more viable than it should be.
in a world when pirate decks don't kill you t3 or t5 if they have really bad draw maybe
Even without hir'eek and boar, the ever proliferating and bigger men seems more efficient than jade if you can draw shaffar
How weird that the game punishes the player of the card with long animations rather than making the darn animations shorter. That's boolshit!
That's made to prevent otk apm strategy. If you download a mod that skipps animation you also would be banned. If you wondering why, then there was some bad peoples that played ignite mages without animations a d was drawing whole deck turn 3-4 and killing you from full health. They played around 30-40 cards on turn 3 that is impossible without mods. This peoples get to top 1-100 legend and they were just bullying normal players.
@@impkiller5932 call me old fashioned but I think blizzard should address decks like that specifically instead of making the entire game feel sluggish and non responsive
You could simply relog and the animations are over.
Mark, I'll be real, this deck is probably tier 2 if you just hit face with the huge minions, it gets so out of hand so fast.
The first "big" minion comes down on turn 4 at best, considering shaffar and coin on opening. By that point you're already dead, and if not you're facing a deck that can easily deal with all the minions you play.