My Canadian Production Wheel ~ History, Spinning, and Longdraw
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- Have you ever wondered about the history of Canadian Production Wheels and why so many CPWs were produced in Quebec during the late 1800s and early 1900s? I did some research about CPWs, and today, while I do a long draw spin with my CPW, I'll tell you about some of the history, quirks, and details of these beautiful historic spinning wheels!
📷Let's Get Spinning!
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📚🔎History Research Sources🔎📚
BLACK, NAOMI, and GAIL CUTHBERT BRANDT. Feminist Politics on the Farm: Rural Catholic Women in Southern Quebec and Southwestern France. McGill-Queen's University Press, 1999.
“Economic History of Central Canada.” Economic History of Central Canada | The Canadian Encyclopedia, thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/economic-history-of-central-canada.
Foty, Caroline. Fabricants De Rouets: NINETEENTH CENTURY QUEBEC SPINNING WHEEL MAKERS AND THEIR TWENTIETH CENTURY HEIRS (1850-1950) A PROVISIONAL DIRECTORY. 3rd ed., e-Book, 2018.
⏰~Video Index~⏰
0:00 Introduction
1:12 Project Details
2:37 Drafting on a CPW
3:32 Bobbins Up Storage Bobbins
5:10 Drive Wheel Size
5:45 Cast Iron Footman
6:33 Cast Iron Treadle
6:52 Cast Iron Tilt Tension System
8:09 Ashford Tension Knob vs CPW Tension Knob
8:44 Maker's Stamp
9:45 Drive Wheel Hub
10:19 Drive Wheel Bearings
11:12 Removing the Drive Wheel
12:09 Oil Your Wheel
12:24 Double Drive
13:11 Leather Bearings
14:24 Flyer Hooks
16:41 Long Draw
21:48 History of Canadian Production Wheels
27:01 Resting Before Plying
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I also have a Philias Cadorette (as well as a 2nd CPW) so I loved the learning the history! My wheel is basically silent except for the wind that comes off of her as I spin. Spinning with her is relaxing and meditative. The knob at the end of the table has yet another use: it is at the perfect height to whack my knee on every time I get up from spinning.
That knee whacking is 100% true! 😣
So CPWs attack both ankles and knees?
Philippe sounds like he’s purring!!!!
I love the sound of spinning wheels. Thanks for showing off his paces 😍
I love his chatter so much! 😊🧶💖
I love that ‘there is no rules in spinning’! The woman who taught me to spin used to say “go for the glory” when I struggled with not knowing the ‘proper’ way to do something. This video was like a nice reminder ❤️
I love that! 😊💜🧶
My great great grandfather was a famous spinning wheel maker in Denmark in the late 1800's early 1900's. I wish I had one of his wheels!
Did he mark his wheels? Maybe you could find one? 🐑😊🧶💜
Thank you!!!! For this video I have a philias cadorette. I love spinning on it. I've spun many different fibers on it. I even used it to make linen bow strings out of flax for archery.
That sounds amazing! 🏹🎯🧶
My great grandmother lived in Quebec and had sheep. She spun their wool on a Canadian Production Wheel. When my mother and grandmother would go to visit, great grandmother would have mittens and socks mostly knit for them. She would measure their feet and hands and finish them while they visited. I have 2 pair of mittens that she knit for my mother. The warmest mittens I ever wore. But that was when I was a kid. I would never wear them now for fear of losing them. My mother tried to get the wheel when great grandma passed but apparently it was used as fire wood. I do have my great great grandmothers wheel brought with her from what would have been Prussia. Not in very good condition, but I took it into someone familar with wheels. She said it was most likely used to spin flax. Thanks for this video!
I'm sorry for the loss of your grandmother's wheel. How wonderful you have the mittens and flax wheel. Those are family treasures for sure! 💜
Firewood! I’m crying! 😭
Thank you for this very informative video. I was given a CPW from my husband’s aunt. It belonged to his great grandmother and called my wheel Marie-Louise in her honour. She used it to spin flax that was grown on the family farm, and his older aunts remember that she spun wool with it also. His grandfather gave me tea towels made of linen that was grown, spun and woven by her, I treasure them! The family farm is now run by an uncle of my husband in Ste-Thècle, Québec, and am lucky enough to have my cottage there. Îm a beginner spinner and I’m sure that your video will help me better understand my Marie-Louise. Merci beaucoup, thank you!
Wow! What a history you have with your wheel! How wonderful you can keep Marie-Louise spinning! 💖🧶😊
I just noticed on the Cadorette family tree that Philias Cadorette had a sister named Marie Louise. Her married name was Lalime.
I've watched this video (and all your videos) a few times and I finally just got a CPW of my own! My first wheel 😊 I immediately came home and watched it again so I could figure some stuff out. So helpful! Thank you very much Evie for doing what you do and being such a wholesome helpful lady. I will never not follow you❤ I look forward to spinning all the floofs. But first I practice by plying 😉😄
About a week ago a CPW showed up in a thrift shop near my son in Wisconsin.....and when i told him about it he ran over there and got for me! I'm SO excited! Sadly, I'm in Italy and won't see it in person for some months. Still, I'm super excited about checking out this wheel and bringing it to working order!
That is awesome! Congratulations! 🧶🐑✨
Thank you for this awesome video! I just came across a CPW two weeks ago - this video was super informative!
Unfortunately mine does not work - the treadle is completely busted and needs remade or replaced. However the bobbin and flyer are 100% in tact and in perfect condition! I plan to completely refinish and restore it to it's former glory (the previous owner did a really bad paint job on it, and it's really a shame!)
Your videos are amazing, and I have been watching them constantly as I begin my journey into spinning. Thank you so much!!!
I loved the reference to elevensies!😂❤
I'm such a nerd! 😊
@@JillianEve nerds are my people😂😘😁
A 1964 video of making a spinning wheel is a must watch here on TH-cam. It shows how to make the fly wheel with those types of hooks so if you find a really good wood worker just make a new flyer for your wheel 😉
Awesome video! I have a Frederic Bordua CPW and adore him - I call him my "Grumpy Old Man" since he rumbles and grumbles. But now thanks to you and Phillipe, I will listen a little closer as he tells me of his life and times in Quebec. I have been battling with overspinning worsted yarn, so I think I will definitely be trying a woolen long draw!
I have the same make too. Will take some practice to get in tune with spinning.
Love your video! I own a CPW, made by Philias' father Michael. Her previous owner brought her to the Netherlands and named her Joni, so i didn't get a say in naming her. She's a wonderful spinner and beautifully restored and maintained. She stands out in my wheel collection, quite literally as well.
I just purchased a CPW that was being sold as a "piece of art." It need some TLC to get it back to working condition but I'm excited and can hardly wait for the repairs to be finished so I can get to know her.
I bought a CPW from an antique dealer at a country market a few years ago. It stayed stored for a good while, but now that we've converted a room into a craft and sewing room, the wheel resides there. I have yet to get spinning with it and it does feel quite daunting with its speed especially since I have never spun before. I may give the drop-spindle a whirl (pun intended) first so that I can get a feel for drafting and how the twist travels up the yarn.
Wow, that wheel has a lot of movement. You can see it moving from side to side. Glad you don't seem to have any issue with the drive band coming off.
I looooove those drill bobbins! They've made spindle spinning so much more enjoyable for me since I can just store everything on those and not have to deal with the wibbly-wobbliness of center pull balls
Yes!!! 🧶💜😊
This is all so interesting. Thanks for introducing us to Phillipe! I have on loan from my sister’s in-laws a Louis Bisson wheel. It doesn’t quite match the CPW criteria exactly, but was crafted in Quebec during the heyday of CPW’s. It is a lovely wheel, but I have yet to get it working up to its true potential (my skill deficit, not the wheel). The bobbin and the whorl are in excellent condition, as were the flyer and maidens. I did have to find a drive band, and took the wheel to a leather worker (saddler and boot maker) and he crafted a wonderful replacement for the leathers. It is now in excellent working order, around 120 years after it was made. I’m hoping to get better at my long draw and be able to take full advantage of its production potential.
I really enjoy the hearing the “chatter” of the spinning wheel. Okay, never mind, I just didn’t listen long enough. You’ve already got it covered.
Science! I’d really like to do an experiment of woollen v worsted spun mittens to see whether the woollen really is warmer. I’d also love to see how much warmer a chain ply is compared to a 2 ply. Feel like I’m going broke making all my handspun into 3 ply!
That's a wonderful experiment! 😊💜🧶
I just been given an identical wheel ❤️ Now I have to learn spinning!
Thanks for a great video. I bought a CPW many years ago from the original owner. Her father bought it for her in Quebec when she got a job teaching in our little Vermont town in 1938. He expected her to be lonely and unhappy, but she met her future husband quickly and in fact was very happy here. She never liked the wheel, told me is was quirky and unpleasant. I think it just did not suit her spinning/knitting style. She liked chunkier more rustic yarns. I coveted the wheel for years after I met her and one day she called and told me she’s sell it to me. I love it. For a short time, 10 or more years ago we had a CPW group that met on occasion. I have pictures somewhere of us with our beautiful wheels. I loaned the wheel to a young couple who were enthusiastic spinners for a time. I think I should borrow it back soon.
Hi, JillianEve! I have a CPW exactly like yours and I've noticed that it loves to really pull when the bobbin is empty, and not so much pull when the bobbin is full! I noticed the outside of your wheel fork is loose so you might want to take a soft mallet to it to tighten it back up. Just give it a couple raps till it's snug again. The hooks are an easy fix too, btw! Just got down to your local big box store and pick up a coil of wire the same size as your pegs. Fashion them into hook shape, rough up the end that is going into the wood and either epoxy or superglue them in place. Make sure to clean up all the rough pointy edges so you're not slashing up your fingers and you're off and running. I use a #12 gage cotton cord for my drive band with some violin rosin for traction and life's grand! If you want the chipped part of your bobbin to vanish, use a black sharpy and it's like magic! The knob on the front is wonderful for winding off the bobbin, too. Just take a half wrap around the knob and onto your storage bobbin and Bob's your Uncle! Have fun moving and happy spinning!
Thank you so much for this video! I acquired a CPW last year from an antique shop just around the corner from my home. It wasn't until recently however that I had it looked at and found out it still works quite well! I don't spin, yet, but I am hoping to learn on this amazing piece of history. Apparently mine was made by the Ouellet family around 100-150 years ago. I don't know much else about it, other than it was likely made before mass produced metal castings were used because this wheel doesn't have any typical metal parts, and it has a wooden treadle instead of a cast iron one.
I love the name you choose. I also have a CPW. Sadly mine doesn't have a makers mark on it. I named mine Aurora. I just found another for super cheap that is missing the flyer assembly. Thankfully I have a restoration guy who is going to make one for it. CPWs are amazing wheels.
great video just in time for my new to me country craftsman spinning wheel. I had some rolags and I am spinning long draw. She spins amazing
Yay! 💖🧶🐑😊
I was gifted a vintage wheel from a client a few years ago. This video inspired me to take a look at making it usable again.
Thank you for this wonderful video! I have a Saxony style wheel made in 1864 and just a week ago I bought a German castle style wheel. The wheel on that one is only 14 inches, so is a baby size compared to a CPW! In my research on my latest antique wheel I discovered Bobbin Boy, who can make duplicate flyers, bobbins, etc. Specializing in parts for antique spinning wheels. You can find him on Facebook. Hope this helps others who might be needing a part to get their antique wheel to be able to spin again.
Thank you! Happy spinning with your lovely wheels! 💖😊🧶
How I remember which whorl to use is… I was fast when I was thinner and slow now that I’m thicker! So if I want a thin yarn I remember to spin fast! lol
I am so excited, I just received a CPW! She is in really decent shape except she will need some replacement pegs for holding the drive wheel in place! Ty for the book recommendation that is just what is needed
Love the history!
This was a joy. My CPW was made by the same company and the maker stamp is still readable. Thank you
Hi, JillianEve! Thank you for all the info on CPWs! My CPW is very 'grabby' when the bobbin is empty, just right when the bobbin's half full and doesn't want to take up at all when it's full. Mine also chatters up a storm, but it's almost meditative. I spin off the knuckle/Tip and I like to work with BFL top the most. I need to find some pencil roving to give that a try! Looks like fun! The only really annoying thing about my wheel is that the cast iron treadle always wants to be in its down position so if I want to stop, they wheel keeps turning until it wants to stop. The hooks in my flier are just bent metal and have NO threading and do come loose from time to time. I gingerly pull the offender out, rough up the part that goes into the wood with some jeweler's side cutters and superglue it back in. I noticed in your video that your wheel doesn't spin true (it wobbles), BUT you have a loose fork (the outside one/the side where your footman is attached. You might want to shim it up so at least your wheel will turn a bit better.
Yes, we do have some wobble. Thanks for your tip, I'll see if that helps. My Phillippe does the same turn and settle motion when I stop spinning. I've gotten in the habit of grabbing the flyer after I stop the treadle to let the drive band slip without unraveling the bobbin. Happy spinning! 🧶💖😊
My CPW is also super grabby at first! I’m so happy my wheel isn’t the only one that does that, I usually start off with cross lacing and that seems to help.
Thank you so much for this video. I so enjoy seeing and learning about all the parts of spinning. I love the mechanics and history as much as the spinning itself.
Another fantastic video 💜
Thank you! 🧶💖😊
Thanks for a wonderful video introduction to your CPW! I'd love to have one, but can't really justify getting another wheel when I have a Schacht-Reeves and a Lendrum Saxony that get fast enough for my long-draw. I knew just the bare bones of the CPW history, but it was very interesting to find out just why and where they were developed.
I just discovored you and I am so happy to hear about à wheel made in my country. Thank you for that.
Such an informative video. I recently found a CPW and will be getting it next week! So excited to find one.
Lovely video. I like the history you give. ❤️🌺
Thank you! I enjoy the research too! 😊💜🧶
I just discovered today I have a CPW! Same treadle design as your Phillipe. Mine has a badly warped section of the wheel, and will be taking a trip to Iowa for repair. Thanks so much for all the info on it.
Just got my CPW today. It needs a little work & a replacement bearing & a new piece of leather for the flyer, but I’m super excited to get started.
Thank you for all the info :)
Just came across your videos and am loving these. Had to look at this one specifically when I saw 'Canadian' as someone who grew up in Canada 🙂 I know nothing about spinning but am learning lots from your videos and am really interested in giving this a try. Had no idea there was so much involved and so many different types of wheels. Really interesting!
Hu Evie, thankyou for taking time out of your move to put this video up. I was thinking he sounded like an Old Train with the sound he makes. The yarn looks gorgeous.
Thanks for showing us round your
New Backyard yesterday evening. Think you've git a queue forming to come and camp out there.
Happy Spinning
Take care and stay safe.
Lots of love Jen xxxx 💘💕✨
Oh, I love that he sounds like a train because his maker worked for the railroad! 💖💖💖🚂
@@JillianEve Hi Evie, sorry for not replying sooner, I unfortunately lost this thread.
Gosh the maker of this Wheel working on the Railroad sounds like we must have been
"Soul mates" way, way back. I know I don't have any American or Canadian Ancestors 😕. I don't know if you remember me saying about my Mum working in the Cotton Mills, ( on one if your lives). Well my Dad worked on the Railways he was a Shunter Driver, they move the Engines into their Sheds.
We seem to be able to give each other some sort of History Connection .
So glad your move went smoothly.
Happy Spinning Fibre Friend.
Take care and stay safe.
Lots of love Jen 💘💕🎆🐏
thank you for this video especially your demonstration of long draw! i finally tried it and let's just say it's a start. I have a kiwi 3 and had it on the smallest whirl with a 9.5:1 ratio - certainly not the same as a CPW. All the best with your move.
Hi! What an excellent CPW video! Thank you! I too have one she is a sister to yours and she chats me up all the time.🤣Do you often think, “How in he wold did I get so blessed in this life to have such a tender love in my life?” Spinning fine yarn and knitting with it heals all. Bless you in your move. We Move Jan. 30 2019 AND Jan. 30 2021. We are now on the little farm of my dreams! Again thank you!💗
Oops! We moved 2020 and 2021! 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Yes, I think that all the time! Congratulations on your dream farm!
Awesome vid. Good luck with the move!
Thank you! 💜🧶😊🐑
I have a Cowichan or Mid River wheel that I love for plying. It has a huge orifice, so it's great for art yarns, but it o Ly knows one speed as well.
What a handsome fellow you have!
I too have a Philias Cadorette CPW -- a gentleman named Gideon. I absolutely love spinning with him. He has a replacement flyer (and a handful of new bobbins made at the same time); I'm not sure what happened to his original. Regardless, he's a very powerful wheel and I always imagine his spinners who came before me. It's amazing to have a wheel with so much history.
Yeah! The history is so cool, and I love that you named yours Gideon. 😊
Evie you are such a brilliant teacher, and your voice is so pleasant to listen to.
I’m hoping to get a spinning wheel for my birthday in November .
I will be watching your videos from the start.
Thankyou so much for taking the time to teach us all
Much love jane xxxxx
my cpw is an aram paradis and is named loom, this brand does not have the iron work and has a different way of holding the tilt, but its not far off. loom hates plying especially when the bobbin gets more than half full, and yes its fast. its the wheel i have learned on, not sure i could handle a slower wheel now. that horse is a breed that your reminds you of is called a canadian which everyone should look up they are wonderful.
Very interesting! Thanks! Good luck with the move :)
Thank you! 🧶💜😊🐑
This is a very informative video! Thanks Evie. Good luck with your move!
Thank you! 🧶🐑😊💜
I have a Theodore Borduas CPW also from Saint-Hyacinthe. What a shame that we didn’t know all the history around these manufacturer and the treasure we had! Thank for the video it’s help me take much more good care about my precious! ❤
I think I have a Canadian production spinning wheel it looks identical to what you have on the TH-cam video I had it for approximately forty years. I haven’t spun on it, but I think it’s time that I try it out. Thanks for the information on the spinning wheel.
I was just given a CPW ! Needs a bit of work, but looking forward to trying it out. I have most of the makers mark on mine.
My wheel looks like yours but a little older so probably a first generation? The bobbin and flyer were restored by a registered antiquer. It's quirk is that it doesn't like drive bands very much and will have the drive band pop off frequently. Haven't been able to figure out why
This was so interesting! All of my wheels are antique and I enjoyed seeing the similarities and differences between the CPW and my lovely ladies! Thank you!💕🐑💕🧶💕
You are so welcome! I love the character of the antique wheels! 😊💖🧶🐑
What a great overview of your CPW. Thanks so much for all the information and history behind it. Holy cow, it's fast! Your yarn is beautiful and I love the storage bobbins.
Thank you! I don't know what I'd do without my storage bobbins. They are so useful with antique wheels especially! 💖🧶😊
On my antique wheel that i restored i did replace all of the hooks. They were all broken off except maybe 3 of them. So we pulled them off, sanded them smooth, then i drilled a small hole on each place where i wanted to put the new hooks (i opted to put the new hooks inbetween each of the old hooks to avoid the buts of metal that are still in there) drilling small holes before i screwing in the threaded hooks prevented the flyer from cracking.
Good job and hurray for no broken flyers! 😊🧶💖
I got mine just a week before the Covid 19 shutdown, at an estate sale. I have not had much time to work with it since I was still teaching. I retired Dec 17, so now I have time. I have tried making an outer "fake" (whorl?) for where the string goes around the smaller spindle--that slows it a bit for learning. (Looks awful--I used a pool noodle!) totally temporary, original wheel not altered! I look forward to learning more. Thank-you for your video.
Thank you once again. Best wishes for the move (and thanks for the mention of Bee Keepers! ) :-D as I am a happy Spinning Beekeeper too
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Thanks for that video! Greetings from Sweden.
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You have a wonderful CPW. I also have a Philias Cadorette Wheel and it looks just like yours!. I am still getting acquainted to it. It needed some tweeking but it now spins quite nicely for long draw. I am proud to say my bobbin and flyer are 100% intact, with all the hooks! My main wheel is a bit more chipped than your though! Thank you for this episode, I really enjoyed it 💖!
Wheel twins! Happy spinning! 🧶💜😄
Hi! I also have a Philias Cadorette that I bought in the spring for $100. Cdn. It lived in a flower shop for 20 yrs as decoration. I had to replace the leather bearing with a piece of my belt. Works great. Mine still has the stamp on the table. Mine was really chatty at first until I unscrewed the whorl from the bobbin and cleaned and lubricated it. If you haven’t done that yet, it unscrews in the opposite direction. Enjoy your wheel! ❤️
Lovely! Yes, we got him all cleaned up just like that. He just has lots to say. 💜🧶😊
Thanks for the video - I've no idea how on earth you managed time to do this mid-move!! You are an inspiration. Phillipe is a beautiful wheel, and I love his chattering with you. He has many tales to tell you. Much love, and best wishes for the new home. Xx (PS I call dibs in the softest bed in the yurt when we all descend on your yard! 🤣🤣🤣)
I'll make sure it's the fluffiest! 💜💜💜😊🧶🐑
I recently bought a vintage Norwegian wheel. The drive wheel is 24 inches and the double drive is quick. I put a bigger whorl on it to slow it down a little..I'm a new spinner but old maker so with a little more practice its going to be great..and its super quiet..👍thanks for all the great tips .
I've seen some Norwegian wheels with huge drive wheels too. So beautiful! Happy (fast) spinning! 🧶💖😊
I learned to spin on a CBP and I still love to spin on it. I lucked out getting a wheel with 8 or so bobbins and a flyer with all its hooks. It’s only issue is a patched cracked rim on the wheel that happens before I got it, but I just keep an eye on it. No makers mark that I can find but based on the grooves in the flyer when I got it, it’s seen a lot of years good spinning. Definitely going to find that ebook and see if I can identify it.
Have fun! I love knowing the history of my wheels. 🧶💖😊
Hi Evie! I live in Quebec (sorry for my english!), I was very lucky to found a Cpw Desjardins, made in Kamouraska, Quebec. Am a new spinner, and I think I will have to pratice a lot! Thanks for the video!
Desjardins are lovely and fast wheels too! Keep practicing and you'll be spinning lots of lovely thread soon!! Happy spinning! 💖🧶😊
Hooray a fellow CPW!! Mine (shown as my icon) is a Jeremie Ouelett from about 1875 and was passed down through a great aunt. I call her my "Ouelett" or "JO" for the maker's mark at the front of her table and she still has her original bright yellow milk paint!!! I also found a pieces of a Quebecois newspaper dated 1955 jammed into the socket of one of her legs. Unfortunately I broke one of the original bearings while trying to clean her, but was able to replace it with a new piece of leather. She has her wooden footman as well, and I just needed to a couple pegs to keep the drive wheel from jumping out of place. I don't use her as much as I would like primarily because her tension adjust does not have a screw like yours- the Mother of All is secured by two metal loops which have loosened over the years. Just when I have the tension adjusted to get things going, the mother of all slides forward again and messes it all up. I'm hoping I can find a way to fix or replace those loops, but for now she's just an objet d'art.
Most of the information I learned about CPWs was from "Spinning Wheel Sleuth", issues 71, 68,67, and 55.
Thanks for this video, especially the drafting information. Now I know why my forward draw wasn't quite working (the flyer would eat my fiber), and cemented the harsh reality that I really should work on long draw. Happy spinning!
Yes, the Spinning Wheel Sleuth is a great resource! Happy long draw! 😊🧶💜
On the Ravelry CPW forum some with MOA like yours put a piece of leather between the wood and the loops to give it more bite without damaging anything.
I have the Frederic Bordeau. Thanks again Andre Morgan Casper, Wyoming
Thank you for posting this video! I have been trying to figure out what type of wheel I have, and now I I do! Sadly, the whorl on my wheel has some pretty sizable chips out of it. I wonder if I can find a replacement. 🤔
Spiritwood and Bobbin Boy make replacement bobbins. 💜🧶
I am looking at a CPW for a friend who obtained it in an auction. It appears to have all the pieces and parts, and has no damage that I can see. Once I get it all strung up, the flyer spins beautifully and adds lots of twist to my leader, but.... it will not take up the leaderor any fiber! Suggestions on tweaks I can try to get it to take up? I have adjusted the tension and made sure the wheel is well oiled.
Does your bobbin spin free without the drive band on? My CPW's flyer was so grooved from years of use the bobbin just won't spin freely.
WOW‼️ That wheel is bigger than my house‼️😎
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Lol! They are big wheels! 🏠😁🧶🐑💜
Hi Evie! Backwards long draw is my absolute favorite way to spin! Every other video I ever watched on spinning shows the spinners drawing back with their dominant (usually right) hand and pinching the yarn with the left. I’m a righty and I just can’t do that and I noticed you draw back with your left hand too! So it’s nice to see someone doing it the same as me - unless your a lefty then that’s probably natural for you ☺️ Either way, after watching you do it I now know I’m doing it correctly! Loved this interesting and informative CPW historical show and tell! Thanks Evie! Good luck with your move, can’t wait to see your new fiber space! 😍
If you like the yarn you spin, then it's not wrong! 💖🧶😊
I'm sort-of right handed (years of piano lessons), and I spin with the fiber in my left hand too. The right hand controls twist and picks "stuff" out of the fiber as I go. I lucked into a Lendrum Saxony with the flyer on the right, and it makes a world of difference to my backwards long draw.
I too spin with the fibre in my left hand and I'm right handed too.
Happy Spinning everyone.
Take care and stay safe. Jen xx 💖
What U have is a genuine Frederic Bordeau spin wheel the iron foot treadle is unique visual. The iron cap holding the flyer has "F B" cast into it T Maker's Mark says Frederic Bordeau in an arc.. His waterwheeled powered factory located on the south side of St. Lawrence river Quebec just across the border from New England states. His factory dated early 1800 s to early 1900 s
Merci pour l histoire des rouets du Québec, j ai également un Philippe
That was so fascinating watching you put the yarn onto the storage bobbin that was so cool and the yarn wow I'm always impressed with your work, I think gwen is alot like yours except my tredle isn't as fancy as yours lol x
Its the hub of the wheel that has gone on gwen with the spindles wanting to fall out that's why I don't use her right now until I can get the wheel fixed x
He has such a male chatter he is very deep compared to gwen she has a female chatter hahah x
Glad you enjoyed it! It's kind of fun playing with the power tools! Lol! 😂
Poor Gwen! I hope she can get fixed soon so she can spin again! 💜
@@JillianEve she will one day I won't let her go x
I am watching your wheel spin and I notice that the wheel moves from side to side while you are spinning. I have had my wheel repaired and had extra bobbins made from Merlin Tree in Vermont. They also make new cpw
Yes, he had a bit of a wobble. Mark has made me some shims that have helped to stabilize it and it doesn't wobble like that anymore. 🧶😊💜
Actually, my 1900 (approximately) Lucien Paradis CPW (also a "he") has a wooden treadle AND a wooden tilt-tension. (He also has the original typical mustard-colour paint!).
I just bought one, and after listening to your video i went to check if i can see a stamp on it. I turned it over and i saw " 19U2" hand carved into the wood. ( with out traditional grandparents hands writting, you know hoe they add a "bubble" on the top of the 2)
I thought it was 1942, but you said they stopped making them in 1935 , maybe it's 1902? I would be thrilled to know that wheel is 109 years old and still in mint condition, no chips, everything looks original, and i bought it 75$
It’s been nearly a year but thank you for posting this. I bought a CPW from a friend today and other than having to remake the leather bearings it’s 100% functional and in amazing shape. Your video has been incredibly helpful in helping me figure out what’s what and how to get going.
My wheel seems to have a masculine personality and likes to chatter a bit too. He’ll probably tell me his name when I begin spinning this weekend.
I have found a production wheel that has a spindle instead of a bobbin.It is a very nice whelel. I is being offered for $350 I want it so bad! the wheel is 46.5" high
That sounds like a great wheel! I have one of those on my list too! Some day! 🧶💜
That looks exactly like my old Canadian Tilt tension production wheel. Mine has had so much yarn go through it that it had grooves worn at each hook in the flyer when I got it. It is fast! Does yours have a cast iron hen on the tensioner?
Currently trying to figure out what the wheel we have is so I can know how to repair it if that's needed. It kinda looks like this but it's been years since I saw it so no idea if it has cast iron parts or not. I live in northern Europe so I assume it's from this continent but you never know. Really beautiful though, I absolutely love the color it has
Thanks for this video I just noticed a pretty big buckle on the drive wheel at 18:00. How would you go about removing that buckle and would it be a problem?
Hi Jillian, I just got my whorl unstuck so I can begin spinning on my CPW. But I have several questions; my footman seems to rest on the floor so it won't continuously rise up and down to treadle. I have the rod placed the way yours is in the video but maybe it should be shorter? The wheel automatically wants to turn counterclockwise, not clockwise which is a problem. Yours doesn't seem to do this in the video. Also, if you transfer yarn from the CPW bobbin to a storage bobbin, doesn't that reverse the twist in the yarn? Sorry I have all these questions. I'd like to become a patron but i don't know where to find this information. Your videos are the best! Thank you so much for sharing your talents.
I just recently got my first full wheel and lo and behold it's a CPW. "Not for beginners" just makes it all the more enticing! I do have a EEW Nano so I'm not totally new. Anyway, with my new wheel I'm noticing it doesn't want to do a full rotation. It always manages to get stop when the drive crank and treadle are on the "up". I just oiled the 4 locations you mentioned in the video (the 2 at the center of the wheel and on each side of the flyer), does it take a while to work it in? When I don't have the drive band engaged it seems to go just fine which tells me it's an issue with the flyer. Do you know if this is a normal issue or possibly what the problem may be? I understand if you can't as it is hard when you can't see it in front of you. Looking forward to more videos!
I have a couple ideas to check. Make sure everything is aligned so the wheel is straight. Adjust the flyer supports/maidens and see if that helps. Mine it the front near the orifice likes to be tipped slightly forward. Take the bobbin off the flyer and clean it up. They can get gunky under there. Also try different driveband materials. Hopefully you get it figured out! Happy spinning! 😊💜🧶
Hi! Where can you buy storage bobbins with the insert for a power drill? I'm having trouble locating one.
Hey! I’m new to spinning and have a Canadian Production Wheel! Do you have a video on how to remove the flyer? Thanks!
I sort of do. There are up close views of how to take apart a flyer in my How Double Drive Works video.
I have a CPW and am trying to give it the love it needs to work. I can't get the bobbin to drive at its own rate, it seems the whorl pinches it against the flyer so they spin as one. It's like the bobbin is just a little too long for its own good. I haven't the courage to make modifications yet, but how loose (or snug?) should a bobbin be on the shaft? Is that where Philippe's chatter was coming from? Thanks in advance!! Great video.
Try taking the bobbin off (be gentle removing the whorl- it's reverse threaded) and clean up the flyer shaft. When I got mine it was gummy from residual oil. The bobbin should spin completely free.
Hi Eve, what did hey do back in the olden days, they did not have power drills to wind or the wind bobbins?
That's an awesome question! There are some people who have been lucky enough to find CPWs with multiple bobbins so back in the day, people probably also had more bobbins that got lost over time. I've also seen some old pictures and paintings of really interesting set ups where people plied directly from a swift or a plying ball. There are so many interesting solutions! 🧶💜
The leather bearing is an interesting way to solve a problem. I wonder if it's plausible to if needed, replace the leather part if it degrades too much. if you're up for it you can send me a message and we can discuss possibilities of how it might have been done
That would be fantastic! I have an 1850s Swedish flax wheel I'm refurbishing that has one bearing missing so it will need to be remade. I'd love to do some leather working experiments together! 🧶😊💖
@@JillianEve I used to work for a retail leather distributor and supply company and learned a few things. I'd be more than happy to help figure out what they did to do some replacement parts
Hi, I love your Chanel and have just bought an older Castle style wheel and after much asking around and research online find it is a Haldane Shetland with the spare (two ) bobbins stored on the left side.
It seems to have hooks for a Scotch tension or can be a Double Tension. I heard the tutorial on Woolary that the medium to thicker yarn is best on a Scotch set up ( which I want) compared to a Double Tension set up is this correct? I have searched and searched for a simple tutorial on how to actually set up the drive band. Everything for beginners on TH-cam’s seems to assume that the drive band in already on the wheel, mine is not.
When I do find someone explaining, it is for a completely different type of Wheel.
Please can you direct me to a drive band set up and how to thread the leader and tie it on to start from scratch? Thank you
For my scotch tension wheel I use a cotton yarn for crocheting dish cloths and just tie it on with a knot. 💜🧶😊
Such a beautiful wheel! I noticed the wheel wobble, is that due to age or how the wheel sits? Is it something to be expected when purchasing an older wheel?
Older wheels can certainly develop a wobble. I think I know how to fix mine thanks to some coments and suggestions! 🧶😊💜
I have one more question, does it matter which way the twist goes? It's on the bottom.
I have this wheel also. Is there no brake in the flyer for the bobbin? I thought something was missing from mine. 😬
This is a double drive, so there isn't a separate brake for the bobbin. It is part of the drive band. I have a video to demonstrate how to tie a double drive band.
I've just watched your video, and have been greatly enlightened about the CPWs. I am assisting a friend to find a home for a CPW that she inherited with a northern Ontario camp and its contents, and want to find out more details about them.
I also have several comments and questions. First, when I was in a spinning certificate programme, we all called these wheels "Quebec wheels" or "Quebec production wheels." I suppose that CPW became the name/abbreviation of choice because spinners in other countries would have been mystified by the term "Quebec"? Second, I noticed that Philippe has a distinct wow in his wheel. Do you think this could affect your yarn in any way? Third, I noticed that, when you were demonstrating the treading action of Philippe, you treadled in pulses, not in an evenly distributed treadle-and-release motion. Would this not affect the twist in your singles, depending on which section was spun on a pulse and which on a rest?
Thanks so much for the information and the clarity of your demonstrations!
I'm not sure why the name transitioned to CPW. I think Quebec Production Wheel makes more sense because we certainly have other wheels made in Canada. I've also heard people say they should be called Lever Tension Production Wheels to signify their iconic tension system, but so far, everyone keeps calling them CPWs. Phillipe does have a wobble in his wheel that I have since shimmed up. It doesn't affect the yarn other than throwing the drive band from time to time. The whomp whomp of the treadle is partly because of trying to film things so people can see what is going on. When I get going at a consistent pace, that drive wheel is turning very fast, it is a bit noisy, and shakes the camera. The heavy press is simply due to the force required to get the large wheel turning so the crank shaft makes it back up to the top for another treadle press. Hope that helps! Happy spinning!
@@JillianEve Thank you!
My great-great grandmother's maiden name was Cadorette, and she was born in 1879 in the Saint-Dominique area of Quebec. I wonder if she was a cousin of Phillias?
Wouldn't that be an amazing connection to discover?! The ebook I referenced in this video partly came from a geneology project. Contact Fiddletwist on Instagram. She did the genealogy research of all the CPW wheel makers and might be able to tell you if there is a family connection. There were several members of the Cadorette family, including some of the women working in the family spinning wheel business around that time. 💖
I just received a CPW that one of the maidens I guess the front one is broken. Can I send you a picture or can you direct me where I can get help? Thank you
Hoi and hello Mrs, E. Jillian I got a question for you! have you got spinning wheel for left hand people?. Thank you young lady and I will wait to hear from.
Many of the "castle" style wheels with double treadle help people feel a bit more centered in their spinning and lefties enjoy that. I often switch hands while spinning and haven't struggled too much with my traditional wheels.