Rick and Morty is NOT Complex
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yea this guy doesnt understand us rick and morty watching yoghurt males
Nah, bro got the pin of shame 💀
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this is definitely the funniest possible comment someone could leave on this video
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The show just rewards you for paying attention. That makes it good, not deep.
Porque no los dos?
@Spaceboy I... don't understand your comment. Are you implying I'm forcing others or this video is? Because either way I think your comment misses the point
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no it doesn't. how? the creators using Rick literally said they hate canon
Deep comment brooooooh
But then what makes a show deep? If you're saying that paying attention to small details which ultimately leads to more satisfying conclusions or revelations is not deep what is? I don't think the show is that deep, but it does have some depth.
You're wrong. When Rick said "I'm pickle rick!" I felt that.
@@ad-revenue-quintillionaire thank you
That’s my favorite episode because of the therapist and when I found out it’s just a joke or headache for people I was a little sad 😅 yeah turning into a pickle ain’t deep but the message at the end was.
i felt his pickle on me
@Your Mums Co-Worker Now this, this is deep
Funniest shit I've ever seen
I read something on Tumblr a while ago that said “just because something is complex doesn’t make it deep - a thing can be complicated and also very, very stupid as hell”
Did you mean to type complicated? Because complex and complicated are two different things. Either way it's true, romantic high school drama can be complex and convoluted but it doesn't make it good.
steven moffat
Kingdom Hearts
Which I still unironically enjoy, it's okay to like dumb shit
Xavier renegade is witty and the jokes are often layered but it's still really dumb, and it embraces it fully
"Any idiot can make a thing complicated, but only a genius can make it simple"
It doesn't mean everything complex is bad either, but just adding more and more moving parts without thinking about it can lead to some very poor writing.
What annoys me about the show is that it gives you a taste of story, then it goes "Noooooo we don't want a story, we're episodic we swear!" Then they give more story a season later and are like "NNNNOOOOO this story you like and we created? It's a BAD story and you should feel bad about wanting more!" And then they give more anyway. It's just really tiring honestly.
That’s so true. I wish they were okay with changing the status quo of the show. Many other shows have done this. Not sure why they don’t let themselves do this.
Yup. An arc would actually be great. What it has is kind of the opposite? Always referencing a past, presumably arced-from, off screen. Oh things totally happened... we think
I mean, given that 1/2 of its creators is a predator... are we surprised that the show follows the same pattern as an abusive relationship? 😂
A better showrunner would probably have Rick intentionally suppressing the plot because he's terrified of change until it all eventually boils over in something even he can't stop. You can still be very episodic with that concept. Rick essentially (not literally) going "oh fuck if we don't leave now we're gonna spend 2 episodes here and causality is gonna catch up with me" would've been a lot better than the writers just laughing at the viewer.
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Great video Judge! To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand that you don't need a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty.
His IQ is lower then a trash can just with how he thinks he knows everything
I mean then again it depends of the season and episode. Though it’s mostly standalone the rickatlantis episode expresses the dark reality of the United States and the various corporate monopolies and class division within it.
your pretty much doing the exact same thing by identifying iq through things that don’t really measure iq
The reference to this one never fails to make me laugh
@Thefatbob37 to some of us this isn't a surprise and that's still not deep deep implies something further down you can't just look at with surface information anyone paying attention to politics knows the system is fucked up and rigged against the little like guy no shit of course it is this is deep if youre 12.
I still can’t believe that for a couple years the internet unironically thought that Rick and Morty was an intellectual show with rich commentary about nihilism
I still can't believe that people think nihilism in itself is a particularly intellectual concept
@@belivuk2526 its rather a lack of concepts.
@@belivuk2526 Nihilism can be an interesting (although not necessarily intellectual) concept to explore in certain contexts, but mainly in how it can be challenged by other belief systems rather than nihilism itself. It's also really hard to get a truly nihilistic main character to work in anything remotely story based, they work far better as villains or supporting characters. Even then I can only think of one, maybe two characters that really made it work and arguably they didn't even stick to it.
@@thedevilstoaster1755 I never said you can't make an interesting story around it, I just said it wasn't particularly intellectual, which is what most fans consider it to be for some reason. What story one finds interesting is up to oneself though
@@belivuk2526 fair enough, I guess in my mind whether something is intellectual or interesting is just somewhat interchangeable.
Then there’s also stuff that’s just pure visual spectacle which I guess would also fall in that category, albeit for different reasons.
It started out as a parody of complex storytelling, and then became a parody of itself, and then became a parody of a parody of itself. That's the maximum number of layers of parody you can have without becoming needlessly confusing
Rick and Morty is already needlessly confusing. Like fuck if I wanted to watch weird random Eldrich level shit spontaneously appear throughout a series, I'd watch Regular Show, which is S Tier for a cartoon series that's legit just a couple homies working at a park with other homies. It's the mundane nature of the show's premise being abruptly catapulted into a completely random chaotic event usually involving some kinda supernatural or super Meta type of story shift that is completely jarring to the audience in a way that engages us by tapping into our curiosity, subliminally encouraging us to continue watching it to figure out what the hell is even going on and how it correlates to the original point of the episode. As Regular Show continued throughout its seasons, it kept to that same plot format of "Dudes supposed to be working, ends up goofing off, ends up messing some shit up or doing something they shouldnt have, weird shit happens, conflict, resolve, conclusion, fin", which is a relatively simple yet decent and strong format for a slice of life type of comedy show. It clearly kept fans of the series always tuning in just to see what kinda weird crazy shit was gonna happen next. With Rick and Morty, you have no format. It's just chaotic randomness that makes no sense, then the show trys to nudge you like "EYYY GET IT? LOL BECAUSE WE SAID SO AND THAT'S RELATABLE" and expect you to catch on.
I'd say, "Overwhemingly Pretentious" would be the most appropriate adjective to describe Rick and Morty, not "Complex". To be complex would imply that whatever it is that makes the show complex is what holds it together and makes it function. Rick and Morty is more like Brian Griffin in that one episode where Stewie takes these ADHD pills (Pretty sure its Adderal or Vicodin or something) and Brian takes one and gets all tweaked out and starts up on a typing tangent, thinking hes brainstorming all these super brilliant ideas and super deep concepts for his book, but by the time he comes down and crashea from the high and decided to check out his presumed masterpiece, only to realize in shock that all he wrote was pretty much several pages worth of word salad that made absolutely no sense. I feel like that word salad Brian wrote was probably what would soon become Rick and Morty. Lolololol. After all, the storyline of every epsiode sounds and looks like the mad ramblings of the local neighborhood tweakers standing on the street corner.😂😂😂
It simspons all over again.
It’s Baudrillard Simulacra collapsing on itself
@@OGTwistedDobermanXCVI Pretentious, no. The show is quite aware of its own stupidity. Which is why they don’t try to “convey a message” like Bojack. They just wanna make people laugh who pay even the least bit of attention, that’s it.
Ain't no way the vat of acid episode beat the way from halfway down. It's literally a masterpiece compared to the Rick and Morty episode
I'll be honest, the Vat of Acid episode was the first episode I watched where I was like... "I'm done. I don't care anymore." The episode served no purpose beyond making Morty miserable and making Rick look like an asshole. It wasn't funny, nor was it trying to be, and I had grown tired of Rick winning, of Rick being the worst fucking person in all of creation and the show still reinforcing that he is always correct through its narrative.
RIGHT?? the view from halfway down was the only bojack episode to make me cry and actually feel an ounce of sympathy for bojack, such a beautiful episode and it got beat by that
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@E. F-R. bro how do you correct someone incorrectly
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I only now learned that the view from half way down lost to the vat of acid episode... what the hell. That is incredibly upsetting.
I honestly didn't enjoy the vat of acid episode and to have it beat one of both mine and many other peoples favorite episodes in any show ever is kind of ridiculous exceptionally considering the difference of tone in the two.
That is unbelievable I enjoy the hell out of rick and morty but i don't think the entire series even compares to the view from half way down. I think the only thing that ever even strikes the same chord is when morty talks to summer about him burying himself.
Awards like the Oscars and Emmys are not about the shows. They're about how many "perks" the judge got from the show. It's all a sham dude.
Awards shows are a meme anyway
@@Jakepearl13 Tru but the awards should still go to people deserving of it
the point about how they didn't develop the theme of nihilism despite it being such a huge theme was really interesting to me, nice video :3
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@@slyfoxblox oh
Season one two and parts of three did though….
Also the whole point of nihilism is you can’t really expand on it, it’s the cold harshness of reality, nihilism acknowledges that there’s a walll that will always be impossible to cross.
Idk I just don’t think you can expand of nihilism.
@Thefatbob37 nihilism is more of a basis to be expanded on.
It's a basic idea that only becomes interesting when we think about what to do after it.
Absurdism and existentialism are both steps you take after nihilism.
@@truffeltroll6668 Nihilism doesnt seem like it should be expanded on though, rather it should be I guess, "demonstrated," like no matter how much you cry the universe is forever silent.
the show has deep moments, but it's really proven that it's not a "deep show" by now...
exactly. For me, it's a show that rubs up against deep and philosophical concepts only to turn around and fart on them.
Harmon is too cynical and sarcastic for his own good sometime but that's why I love him. I watch the show to be entertained not enlightened. I have philosophers and thought provoking cinema to scratch that itch.
yea rick and morty really reminds me of the shit that happens when you mix lsd+weed its just so crazy space time shit going on i think you really can understand some moments more than others when you understand trippy shit yk
Show's creator burped so hard for a pilot episode he had to be hospitalised. That really sums up complexity of the show.:)
The problem is this show has put itself in a damn tough place, story wise just like GOT. If they don't finish the series in a satisfying way it'll be crazy to see the fallout.
People still watched Game of Thrones. Rick and Morty is already too abandoned for anyone to really care what it does.
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Honestly sounds like the fallout would be more entertaining than the entire series.
@@jbca Rick and Morty is abandoned? what statistics do you base this assumption on
@@val3454 I don’t watch it therefor nobody watches it any more. 🙃
But really, no stats, just that none of my friends who were enthusiastically sharing theories for the first few seasons even watch it any more. Just anecdotal
I feel like if any character has changed it has to be Morty. He has really gone from a awkward kid dragged along on adventures through a multiverse he knows nothing about and therefor is forced to blindly trust in Rick to a much more independent individual who is capable of making his own decisions and take charge of bad situations instead of first calling on Rick for help ...even if ultimately he screws it up and needs Rick's help anyway.
I do agree though with the large amounts of nothing in the show. I don't think I would mind what are the more "filler" episodes as it is still a sitcom and it's first priority is to entertain and make you laugh. My problem with the filler episodes is a subjective one in that to me most of them are just not funny to me.
Usually I prefer shows to either be each episode is it's own self contained story that has no effect on the next or be more of a journey where every episode is relevant to the plot. Like Classic Spongebob and Avatar: The Last Airbender. Both are good shows but are totally different in how they tell stories.
Trying to do both can be a disaster like Steven Universe or amazing like Futurama. Rick and Morty I am not sure where I would place in comparison to those two. I feel like it is more like one or the other by the seasons and not by the show as a whole.
I might be talking nonsense since these are basically 2AM shower thoughts but yeah. That's what this video made me think about. I love videos that make me think whether I agree or not. ...or in this case am currently unsure.
So basically, Morty did a puberty.
@@Huntracony yes. if you put it that way, it’s less… “complex” hehe
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Like the Justice League and JLU shows as a kid? They had great self contained stories that tied into each other in different ways.
When they went from a nutty, drunk, old guy who was basically a wizard with tech to him claiming he was a god it took a nose dive.
You missed the season where it is pointed out that behind the scenes morty cleans up after rick
I know this video came out a year ago, but it’s worth mentioning that Nietzsche isn’t a nihilist. It’s an understandable mistake to make, as he can seem that way sometimes, but reading any amount of his work to any reasonable degree reveals that the idea that he’s a nihilist is basically just pop philosophy - Nietzsche is an existentialist. This video is excellently written though, and provides a wonderful critique.
was gonna say that, tired of people claiming hes a nihilist
Same as Rick one might say
Very early existentialist, but absolutely his entire philosophical output was a very deliberate middle finger at nihilism. His entire schtick is how to live without either submitting to the structures of meaning that nihilism rejects or the well of despondency that nihilism leaves in its wake
I think the worst part is that the characters have actually changed but to a shell of their former selves. Everyone in the family acts like Rick now so there’s no real dynamic anymore
Death Note both manga and anime are not deep, but people think it is. Could be the case with Rick Morty.
@@Skoopyghosti mean, it kind of is a bit. More than Rick and Morty thats for sure
@@Skoopyghost Do people do that? Because as far as I can tell most just think it's good intrigue.
Facts the characters all just hate everything too now except for Jerry who’s just whiny and pathetic which is so overdone at this point
@@Skoopyghostwho said Death Note was deep? It was a really well executed cat and mouse, still one of the best manga and adaptations ever, and it’s extremely compelling, but depth was never the praise
12:00 If you look at the background of the video when he says the only thing he cares about isn't Morty, you can see it's different. For every single video, Rick recorded it in the garage, but this time it's being recorded in a cave just like the one they're all trapped in. Morty really was the answer, but Rick didn't want to admit that so he managed to quickly change it somehow
damn, that would mean he organized an entire concert for noob noob as part of the last minute change to avoid that scenario.
@@Elipson52008 which is something only the tickets Rick would do
@@Elipson52008 To be fair he does have a device that can stop time so he basically has as much time to do that as wants
@@KidNamedBlue_ that device was destroyed back in season 2 tho. He would have to steal another time crystal to make a new one and risk being caught by the time police.
Well, unlike BoJack Horseman, Rick and Morty at least don't make me depressed and numb to life for about 20 minutes.
True😂
And that's why I love Bojack Horseman!
@@Em0lga agreed! If it can be depressing, it doesn't mean I don't like it😂 maybe that's just what I'm looking for at that moment
Yeah, I just wanna laugh dammit
that's why season 1 bojack exists, for when you want "funny horse go brr" instead of masterful storytelling
Bojack Horseman runs circles around Rick and Morty in every aspect
Bojack horseman sucks ass 😂😂😂😂😂😂 its fans are 100x worse then rick and mortys fans were at its peak 😂😂😂😂😂
BoJack Horseman runs circles around almost every show ever made in every aspect
that's only true for people who watched Bojack. I may be in the minority but a show about a depressed, alchoholic horseman dealing with trauma really isn't something I want to watch.
@@MistaZULE but a depressed alcoholic science man with trauma? *Que Drake meme format*
@@elikhtiger rick and morty is about sci fi shenanigans that sometimes delves into the fucked up past of rick, but doesn't dwell in it for entire episodes. It's a side show that is ignored for entire seasons until they give a little piece to the viewer.
i don't want to watch an adult comedy show that gives me existential dread or makes me cry. I want to laugh at fart and poop jokes.
It's obvious you're biased because literally no one watched rick and morty to see rick's depression. They watch it to see rick fart and burp and do some stupid sci fi bullshit. Bojack is literally about his trauma. That's it and that's why I won't watch it.
it's like these creators can't decide if they want an episodic show or a linear one
they try to please both types of fan... It can never work that way
They want an episodic show, but the fans love the serialized episodes, so they have to do more to make that side happy
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“Now I really don’t expect that anyone watching this video doesn’t know what nihilism is, but I still need to explain it just in case.”
Me: *nervously laughs*
its ok to not know something.
It’s absolutely not ok to not no something, wtf is wrong with you
Okok i knew what it was just forgot the word for uttt
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he turned himself into a 𝓹𝓲𝓬𝓴𝓵𝓮
funniest shit I've ever seen.
ive personally always thought that rick and morrty took off because it has a little bit of everything. a little family drama, a little bit of nihilistic theming, a little bit of scientific jargon, all wrapped up in a comedic bow.
Just letting you all since this video is getting traction, this is not my best work. I still agree with it generally, but it feels kinda unnecessary as a video. Still though, hope you enjoy.
edit: CAN THIS VIDEO STOP GETTING VIEWS ITS NOT EVEN IN MY TOP 15 BEST VIDEOS
@@shlokwaghela9560 lol did you even watch the video?
@@sllide nope lmao must have skipped through 90% of it
I watched it, and I don't watch Rick and Morty. Thats 20m you held my attention. I think you did a good job, personally.
@@shlokwaghela9560 Hilarious is that a DDLC fan is watching a video explaining about how Rick and Morty is not complex/deep
question, to who was this video made? To those thinking they're ''intellectual'' or your general audience?
I think rick and morty is also about the human condition because even though rick is incredibly intelligent and the smartest man in the universe he is still a human who makes illogical decisions based on emotion and is encouraged to make illogical human decisions through his grandson morty.
That could be said about most pieces of media though even superman has tackled that theme, its almsot the go to since we all deal with it
All tv shows could be about the human condition because they’re all created by humans. Every show (or even piece of media) could be about the human condition because humans write about the human condition. It’s what we know.
@@aidanmahoney9865 human condition existing in a show versus it being explored are two different things
@@channel45853 yeah, that's what I wanted to write. Rick and Morty has it and show it at really great level
@@channel45853 no
I feel like a show can just be a show. Not everything needs a plot, or narrative motivation, sometimes it’s nice to just have a good ol’ classic rick and morty adventure
I feel like that was the whole point of it. Just something to enjoy and tune out for. Every one adds all this shit to it but it literally was a drunken project. Most of the original dialogue they're actually drunk for. It was for fun. Nothing else
Yeah exactly. Just like every burger can be a burger. But some burgers are mcdonalds slop and some are made by Michelin starred chefs. One is good and one isn't
@@danieljames4752 the thing is they tried adding a story and it's mid
The guy skipped 7 whole episodes declaring there is nothing there because it didn’t advance the almost nonexistent ongoing plot. One of the episode was about nihilistic Rick’s difficulties making friends. But at the start of the video he literally criticized the show for lack of building on the theme of Nihilism.
I really don’t understand if he is looking for deep philosophical ideas or a competent ongoing plot.
I don’t think both are interchangeable when saying the show doesn’t have depth.
The irony is those small things are designed around a plot, narrative, and motivations. For small episodes to be coherent as small episodes they need these things even if self contained ones.
The term "I'm 14 and this is deep" is a meme for a reason. Those who haven't actually experienced a deep idea or story are willing to call whatever is their closest experience to that the maximum the dial goes
I love Rick and Marty because it's so simple. you can zone out or just use it as background noise without feeling like your really missing anything. You can pick it up anywhere and have it still make sense.
So, basically just like every other sitcom?
You say Rick and Morty isn't complex yet I am going on Reddit and portraying you as the Soyjak. How curious
Good vid tho
I suppose that's what you get when you cross a 100k karma redditor with a society that doesn't understand the sheer depth of Richard and Mortimer.
It's complex enough for people to feel smart
Doesn’t take much for stoners to feel smart lol
And I’m speaking for one them.
@@billqiu4692speak for yourself lol
THANK YOU!!! I’ve been ranting like a madwoman for YEARS about how Bojack deserved that Emmy I am still salty!!!
The view from halfway down triggered an existential crisis in me.
It genuinely scared me. Powerful episode, it should've won.
Been binging your videos. You’re really underrated man.
This comment is not complex.
But it is true.
His writing is very good!
I always thought it was some kind of inside joke in the Rick & Morty community as I've never really seen the show or interacted with the community outside of hearing "R&M is deeeeeeep." but I guess not
The thing about Rick is, for all his apparent lack of any serious weaknesses, he does, on rare occasions, wind up in situations where having either Morty or Summer or another character is the only solution. It’s extremely rare, since it’s usually either his own godlike abilities or the massive council of other versions of himself that rules most of the universe or even his enemies’ own incompetence that saves him, yet once in a while, even someone as powerful as Rick Sanchez needs someone to bail him out. The further into the show we go the worse this seems to get, but he never truly gets to the point where he could truly run the show himself, since he will always find some way to get in over his head, as unlikely as that may seem.
The show might not be deep with philosophical concepts but it is definitely clever with imaginative concepts, it makes you ponder a little (It is NOT! hard to grasp, or needs some advanced cognitive level to watch as some people like to say). I personally enjoy the show for it's unique sci-fi concepts for example (the Roy the game, the Simulation scammers, the memory parasites, etc. etc.) each episode has a new crazy concept, it reminds me of Doctor who and black mirror in that sense. Also Ricks extreme apathy could be interpreted as the answer to the Nihilism question. You can't tell me that you didn't find any philosophical concepts on the battery episode or the rest and Ricklaxation one. It doesn't give you the answers but it asks them and that's deep enough for what the show is. Ultimately the show is made for wacky adventures, of course it's not deep as The good place but then again you are comparing different things. You wouldn't compare Bojack horseman to Friends. I agree 100% with your conclusions at 19:23 is spot on but then It rubs me wrong when you say that some episodes have 0 value. or not worth watching??! why!? because they didn't explore some philosophical question? Entertainment is the value.
You managed to articulate many of my own more instinctive reactions to this show. Thank you!
"To be fair, you need to have a very high IQ..."
you know, reminds me of that comment.
Still cracks me up to this day
Rick and Morty is the best show for people that tend to get amazed by deep and disturbing concepts like Absurdism and Nihilism but dont want them to explore at a deeper level because its either too much or too boring. Bojack Horseman is the best show for people that want to explore those concepts and are not afraid of being deeply disturbed by the action of their beloved hero. Thats on a story the level the big difference between the shows, Rick claims hes the Big Bad and despite constantly doing good stuff, Bojack claims he is deep down a good person, he acknowledges some of his mistakes but not even close to everything he has done wrong. Most often than not he blaims his own wrong doings on other people and as a first time viewer you even tend to believe him because after all he is the protagonist. Only if you really watch closely you can see that Bojack is a horrible person that is sometimes open to change, but its to little to late. Despite being the show that is sillier, Bojack Horseman has wildly more complex characters in really complex situations, Rick isnt a complex character he claims to be bad, complex and that he doesnt care, if you think about it for a minute he is nothing of these traits. Thats why in my humble opinion Bojack Horseman is the deeper and more disturbing show, after all if Bojack experiences the loss of a person he cant go into another Universe and live there with the person he lost (Like Rick literally did?? He did change Universes multiple times, but everytime into a Universe where Beth and Morty are alive). If you have endless options and nothing has consequences does anything mean anything? Both shows are good, for me personally Bojack Horseman is the way better show, but i cant deny that Rick and Morty has its moments, is funny and has its pop cultural relevance even though they mock pop cultur the entire time, which at this point is fucking annoying.
I think it's a lot easier to fall into this thinking if you view rick as the main character - I don't really think that's fair.
"if Bojack experiences the loss of a person he cant go into another Universe and live there with the person he lost (Like Rick literally did?? He did change Universes multiple times, but everytime into a Universe where Beth and Morty are alive). If you have endless options and nothing has consequences does anything mean anything?"
This is a really good question, actually. Does it? Does the fact that you are ruining the life of numerous version of an infinite number of sentient versions of people you actually DO care about mean something? Just dropping the world and going to another one doesn't make that previous world not exist, those people still exist, and what they have is perfectly, 100% real to them. It's all they know, and usually is all they will ever know. This is something they bring up, multiple times, actually (see: cronenberg world, rewind button). Rick has NO idea how to deal with it, and neither does morty (see parts where they kill alternate versions of themselves). The show makes you think, at least. Bojack may be deeper and more disturbing, but trivializing what goes on in rick and morty to "he can just go to another near-identical dimension so nothing he does matters" is losing the plot
@@peterkirk8510 Well yes and no.
You see if nothing has consequences, nothing makes you grow from your mistakes that you made. If you had by any chance a younger sibling and you hurt them, your first reaction was most likely "Dont tell Mum." because you were in fear of consequences. That doesnt mean you didnt face any consequences you could have learned from, your younger sibling maybe didnt trust you as much for a few days or he did tell mum eventually. If you could have just swapped realities you would never really learned how to handle a situation where you hurt somebody, thats the situation Rick is in the show. Its not that he is idiotic and in denial about the consequences of his actions, its the almost childish fear of them and the run away approach that is putting me off lately. Its a noise in the woods situation. To him his actions more or less didnt happen, though many people have been affected by them, sometimes on a planet and galactic scale. The only more or less redeeming fact about his run away from reality is that so far none of his alternate Universes we explored featured a Version of his dead Wife, that would be a little too dark of a coping mechanism for me to tolerate actually.
Rick is after all not a big smart he is the BIGGEST SMART, its most likely not that he is to incompetent to fix his mistakes, its more likely that he is to indifferent, apathetic and to afraid of his own actions to make right what he has done wrong. They made an entire episode about that, he fucked a planet, it got pregnant and he was like eeeeh whatever cya. Only Beth made him stop to swoop right out of his responsibility. That means all his actions are to him victimless, and its more or less like they didnt happen, out of sight out of mind. But the worse part is that doesnt make him a bad person necessarily, a bad person like he claims to be would claim there wrongdoings for them rather than flew away from them. So yes your point still stands, all the bad things that they have done are still real, but they only person that used to get eaten alive by this fact was Morty, and to Rick its like they never happend.
Food your channel recently…have been binge watching ever since! Dude you’ve done a great job on this channel, love how your brain works and how you express thoughts!
enjoying this as someone who has never seen the show
thanks prod
Ngl, I kinda have to disagree with this, for the simple fact that it really does change. Over the course of the four seasons, we see how Morty and family members become more capable. They need him less and less, to the point where they start going on adventures entirely on their own. Like in the first episode of season 5, the very first scene is of Morty saving Rick’s life. Even if you argue that this was on,y a gateway for Morty to screw it up by landing on the ocean, you can’t deny that Rick has entirely given up at this point. and later on in the episode, Morty goes on his own adventure on his own and literally makes himself an evil god figure to a species. Beth realised that she doesn’t need Rick and that he is an abuse parent who left her. Jerry is more assertive and learns to become the man of the house. Summer learns that she doesn’t need approval from Rick and can do adventures without him. As a small little thing, you say that when Beth basically says “it’ll be like season 1 but better and not as reliant on you” it makes it so the previous episodes were entirely pointless when it comes to character development. To me, the message of that moment is quite the opposite, it signifies how everything has really changed for the better, and away from Rick.
Even besides all that. I don’t think the theme of the show is about nihilism. On the contrary, I think it’s about rejecting nihilism. In the family, Rick is really the only nihilist. He sees the universe as I relevant, and thus doesn’t cares about what happens to it, however, we get to see how his mistakes do have effect on the worlds he inhabits. When he left his original universe with all the bug monsters, we see how he’s not only put his original family in a living hell, but have endangered his current family. not only does Rick and Morty show how what he does does matter, it also shows that him, and his mindset, are the losers. In the end, everyone in the family except Rick have found new identities that are both safer and more fulfilling, while being disconnected from Rick. And Rick is all alone contemplating where it all went wrong. This is the change and depth you say it is missing.
To be sure, I don’t disagree with you when you say that it is mainly a bunch of small, funny story lines loosely connected together. However, you ignore or misinterpreted many elements of the show that completely derail your arguments.
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holy fuck this was a long rant sorry
I was going to comment almost the exact same thing. Well put!
I did enjoy this video and I certainly don't disagree with everything said, but I think the notion that Bojack was meant to end but R&M somehow isn't is quite arbitrary.
Also just because the pickle rick episode has cringe memes, doesn't mean it isn't good imo. I believe Dan Harmon said that the whole episode was a metaphor for Rick's alcoholism. I thoroughly enjoyed that episode.
@@jx995 preach! Pickle Rick uses it’s stupid concept to not only make a really fun episode, but it also adds character development and makes a really good ending with its concept
I love well made counter arguments, and I do certainly agree that overall the characters have become more independent. It's just my belief that the line between "enough change" hasn't been meaningfully crossed. Have a great day my guy!
@@TheCursedJudge hmm, I had recently watched the four seasons in like 2 weeks or something, so I definitely got a sped up version. I agree that if I watched like an episode a week, the progress would have been way slower. I am certainly hopeful about season 5 when it comes to character development, with the first episode being entirely about Morty and his adventure! There is a lot of one time episodes, so it can can def seem like not a lot really happens between the good stuff.
I think a lot of people just came in contact with an unexpected emotional moment for the first time with this show, and mistook that for depth instead of a singular instance of good execution.
the beastars soundtrack is such a great choice of music for video essays, it just makes the explaining more satisfying to hear
I recently decided to rewatch all the seasons and catch up with season 4 and you perfectly summarized what i love, hate, and wish this show was more of. Btw i love your style of writing
I had the same thing with the Joker movie. It's not that deep. It's just a series of stuff that has been done by far greater movies, with a Joker skin on it.
If ur refering to Taxi driver I don't see much similarity between them despite having similar dystopian backgrounds and a loner as the main character. Joker being a deep movie is actually subjective, since it's ending changes things and because of that ending the entire movie can be considered as ur own perspective of looking into it or headcanon each having difference in their deepness.
Man turned himself into a pickle.
I didn't cry even at my own birth, but that sir, is art.
Many people always ask me how I was able to get into Harvard as a 16 year old who skipped 3 grades of high school. They think I got in because of my scholarly records, but no the key is the interview. As I sat in the Harvard Dean's office in front of the board of reviewers for my application, the Dean asks me "Why should you be a good candidate for this school?" They seemed bored but I replied "Well I was born a child prodigy, placed 1st in my state spelling bee for three consecutive years, I can speak eight different languages not counting Latin, play four different instruments, I skipped grades 4 through 6, and graduated my high school as valedictorian at the age of 14. I then worked as an intern at both Telsa, and NASA." Suddenly the room burst into laughter and many of board instantly started scribbling down "No" near the application check marks. The Dean says "Sorry but you are just not the type we are looking for." But then I said "Excuse me but I wasn't finished... I watch Rick and Morty" The Dean looked at me like an idiot and said "So....?" Then I replied with a smile "And I understand all the references and subtle jokes" An audible gasp let out by the board was so loud the secretary had to come in. You could hear a pin drop and then suddenly all at once the entire board clicked their pens on the "Approved Box" and I was instantly handed a diploma and now I'm teaching advanced physicals there. I guess you can say I'm pretty smart. :)
You used a clip from Bojack at one point, and I’d be interested to hear if other people find that show deep. I as an ex-addict found the show hit way too close to home way too often so I guess I found it deep lmao. Curious to know what you think?
Edit: Okay never mind, sounds like yes 😂
Yea bojack is an amazing show it had the most realistic rendition of a depressed character our of any show (I've heard of obviously)
Yeah, R&M doesn't even come close to Bojack Horseman
there's a video on TH-cam, it's like 4 or more hours long calling it the greatest show ever
so I think so. never watched it tbh 😂
but the video was very well made, so I guess
Yes, but I think its deep because of the characters. The nihilism theme isn't any deeper than rick and morty's. The nihilism in both is more about the characters than really being a coherent theme.
@@CristalianaIvor You mean the series made by James from Schaffrillas?
These videos are so well structured dude i really wish you'll get even more eyes on your future commentary/analysis videos when you'll get to them. Loving your flow
this is an incredible video and analysis, truly! i would luv to see ur take on whichever show or film simply bc ur way of collecting ur thoughts is so entertaining
All I tell people is after the episode with the babysitting Jerry's episode we've been following different ricks in different timelines rather than the main one for the majority of the show
dude holy shit, i found your channel a couple of hours ago and ive been binging your shit. i love your channel so much.
The relationship between Nietzsche and Nihilism, has been distorted by wrongfull thesis quoters from ivy league crapshutes.
He wasn't the founder or father, More like a stern warning and explenation of the concept.
He would have been mortified to be so closely associated with the modern popularity of nihilism.
alright
This was like a salve for my soul. Thanks
The view from half way down. Ow, my heart. That episode was something else. Gives me chills just thinking about it.
5 hours
why
The show's just for fucking around, that's why most people watch it I think. It's fun to just have some low stakes no rules fuckery in your life.
True description of a nutshell, good job
One of the most annoying things for me is that Jerry never throws the fact that if Beth and him didn't get together they would be miserable but they still tell him that he is the big problem for Beth. It is such a pain in the ass every time any of them bring it up.
Kinda sucks that season 4s finale changed and revealed a lot of stuff while setting up a bunch of new themes, ideas and character conflicts and season 5 didn't do anything with it.
Rick being hated by his family didn't change anything significantly, Morty and Summer don't really have such a close bond as they showed off, There isn't any signs from Space Beth or any hint at Rick's new found acknowledgement of him being a shitty father, really feels like Rick and Morty really just goes nowhere.
Season 6 took a shit on the season 5 finale as a joke, they got everyone hyped as hell with evil morty and the CFC being broken.
Then they close the rift out of spite..
1:15 I wasn't expecting Gibbs here but he fits so well under that label
I really wish that there were two versions of Rick and Morty one that is episodic and just silly and stupid or whatever and another that sticks to and develops it’s plot. There we go. Everyone’s happy!
I would absolutely love if you did a video on the big lez show. You always go into so much detail and I love your work! It's a show animated in Microsoft paint and been around for a good long time on TH-cam.
Video isn’t even out yet but I already agree I feel it isn’t smart nor complex but just more XD funny random
Some things in it are complex, doesn't mean the whole show is like a lot of people say
"LOL random" humor isn't good humor and no one show or person should attempt to change it
@@skenda why should people not change it if its bad? So contradictory...
@@skenda "LOL random" humor can be great if executed well. _Airplane!_ is a good example of it in my opinion. _Rick and Morty_ isn't.
@@Huntracony no that’s absurdist humor
The shoe is best when it tries to be fun and focused on family drama. It's why Solar opposites is consistently good. Plus the wall for serial plot goodness to be it's own thing.
Love the Beastars OST in the background.
Venture Bros is everything Rick & Morty wishes it was.
I have no idea why this channel is so underappreciated
"Im cranking fucking 90's"
I just found that video thanks to this comment, I laughed harder than I should
Every episode makes so many references it leaves you with questions that mostly won't ever be answered, so we theorize.
I love everything you say in every video you make. Thank you so much.
People call the show smart but like it just uses standard sci fi consents and parody’s them . Futurerama is by far a smarter show
I love how people are like,
"Rick and Morty is just for smart people, it has really complex and intellectual you just don't understand."
i’ve never anyone in real life that actually believes that
@@arghbarf419 it's a few but there's at least some out there xD
@@arghbarf419 i have.
Not sure what else I expected from Edgy Doctor Who
really curious to hear how you see season 5 now that it was released! great video!
I always loved when people said this show was complex or high IQ and then they introduce the character Mr. poopy butthole
Yeah I agree too,even tho I love this show it doesn't go that deep,it gets very dark sometimes but not a lot,it's pretty easy to understand,I've watched all of it like 8-13 time I lost count lol,but tbh on the 2nd time I learned pretty much everything,there's some things I'm still finding out which make it fun imo,I've started watching it since March of 2022 and I loved it all the way through,it is a amazing show,but not very very deep
Please do a part 2. You made good points but I personally think you will have changed your mind after past season. your summing up of everything was excellent and I neeeeed more ❤️💜
Man can I just say that bojack horseman is such a great show, it even takes over Videos talking about completely other shows
Some episodes make me feel like i’m having a stroke
Crazy that The View From Halfway down was beat by any Rick and morty episode to be fair
Cope and mald bojacktard
Really really really really need a part 2
I like the episode with smart doggos "we are not them"...
Thanks for the great meditations! That's make hell of a lot sense
Maybe it’s not complex to people like us, who frequently analyze these sorts of things, but the the average viewer, it might be. I showed an episode to my father and he could not rap his mind around the concept of multiple universes. He asked me things like “did the old man clone himself.” I’d tell him no, they’re from another universe, but then he’d be confused over how their could be two of the same person without cloning. Try as I might, I could not sufficiently explain it. Kinda makes me glad the writers of this show shy away from time travel
There was an episode all about time travel and why they don't time travel
But even that is pretty barebones in terms of sci-fi. Many, many stories deal with the multiverse. If you're familiar with any of them, Rick and Morty really isn't that hard to understand.
@@highdefinition450 not really, most plots deal with a sci fi trope and turn it on its head to make a point, like the narnia portal episode, or the antique shop
Holy shit that's so masterbatory
I feel that this show constantly returning to the status quo is a rather important point of the whole show. It's not like none of it happened, but it does make a point about nihilism: that nothing actually matters. It just makes that tangible by literally reverting everything to the same old.
That said, since everything did happen and people keep their memories on the events I feel it has subtly shifted the dynamics between the characters, as well as their personal development. I feel that some episodes in season 5 really reflect this too, especially the one where Morty goes on a rampage and Jessica leaves the picture as a love interest.
I don't think the show is especially deep but there's a little more to it than it _just_ reverting to the usual shtick.
If you’re looking for a show that actually commits to the concept you are talking about and does it well, try Space Dandy
@@geraltrivia9565 Oh I love Space Dandy. Thanks for reminding me to rewatch it.
Wah Beastars background music well chosen
I thought I was the only person who felt this way until I saw this in my recommendations.
man i love brick and mortar
I always say Rick and Morty is my guilty pleasure. It's a fun watch, but it's really funny cause so many dudebros think it's deep when it just has a decent plot. You can get the same thing from my little pony.
The thing that bothers me about Rick and Morty being so committed to being episodic is that the show has potential to be so much more. The plot is playing out more now which is great, but it kinda feels like a lot of element of the story aren’t being used to their potential: morty’s original Jerry, the rift that the dinosaurs closed, evil Rick (to an extent), Morty’s character development, etc.
Like there are episodes that explore character development, but after one or two episodes, the characters remain pretty much the same.
I think Rick and Morty has the reputation of being "Deep" because the show name drops a bunch of complex philosophical/scientific concepts but we must remember, simply namedropping a concept is not the same as deeply explaining it or integrating it into the plot. Regardless, it's a fun show.
Seeing someone go over the first 4 seasons of rick and morty just reminds me of how much better this show was back then, nowadays it's basically just a sci-fi version of family guy
I wouldn’t say that they absolutely nothing about nihilism
They certainly use Ricks character to say that nihilism is used as an escape mechanism from feeling pain by some people
Cause if they believe nothing matters they don’t need to care about anything
The fact that there needs to be a video essay on this says a lot about its fandom
Rick and Morty's writing, from what I've heard, can be summed up as "Actively shooting yourself in the foot and complaining when people tell you not to do that"
It's never been seen as deep. It being deep has always been a meme
Nah, mate, the meme came from people who unironically believe it's deep. Consider yourself lucky if you've only met the people who ironically posit that it's deep.
@@SheepUndefined The problem is sometimes you just can't tell which it is. Like you think 'this MUST be a joke...right???' but then you also know some people are actually like that...
@@LilacMonarch Yeah, it's like...what's the thing called? Poe's Law?
I think it can be deep based on how many of the characters are realistic and we can see ourselves in them.
Rick is a genius alcoholic grandfather who hates himself and takes it out on everyone else, a lot of people can relate to having regrets similar to Rick and his alcoholism and his self destructive behaviour that actually just makes him feel worse. Morty is a teenage boy who becomes progressively more assertive and confident as the show goes on which creates tension in his relationship with Rick who likes to walk all over him, people who have been taken advantage of in a similar way by family or friends can relate to this. I think I do tbh. Beth is mother but isn’t a good mum or bad mum who is stuck in a crumbling marriage and idolises her alcoholic father who missed her whole childhood, any girl with daddy issues or martial issues can relate to Beth. Summer is a angsty teenage girl who shows so many signs of being the next Rick which is not a good thing and is often ignored and overshadowed in her family, she is literally me. And Jerry is probably the most normal character in the show, everyone is a little bit like Jerry and for some reason we all bullied him for not being as cool as the other characters but he’s literally a normal man who’s constantly ignored by his family, thrown constantly into danger either because everyone is or because his family literally chose him to be a sacrifice and his wife doesn’t love him. I’ve met so many men like Jerry and even if he can be annoying sometimes I still feel a lot of sympathy for him.
Basically, the characters are so much like real people it engages us so much and helps us ignore some major issues the show has. I really don’t want to admit it has kind of become the one thing the writers didn’t want it to become. And with arguing that the show is deep, I just summarised all the characters in one sentence.
I really enjoyed this video.
I don't know if you're interested in a follow up but it works be cool to see your rebuttals to the arguments that people make for R&M being deep.