With a full stream library... This could be brilliant. The games I've tested so far (resident evil 2, uncharted & plucky squire) have worked perfectly. Now I actually want to use the portal again! ... (Until I've played what I want from the current library...).
Other than some games not even starting I've had the same, it has breathed life into the device where there basically was none previously. I do think we need faster updates and advancement though if this is to be as game changing as it currently seems
@@Doragon86 Something you have to factor in now that the PlayStation Platform Group has its own CEO, I expect we're going to get peppered with updates and investment in the platform because Nishino's entire job performance relies on just this one thing. Can he make more money from the PlayStation platform. The only way to do that is to bring in more customers and better engage current customers.
Resi 2 and 3 dont seem to work for me for some reason, same with death stranding but yeah just got a portal after my gf bought me one and am extremely impressed with it even if some games dont work for me atm.
I have noticed a lil bit of lag playing sports and shooting games online, i need to know if they have the same problems with the new update (cloud games)
Great video thanks, well explained on the pro’s and cons. I’d love to play FIFA (or EA Sports FC) on a handheld but from my checks it’s not available yet on the beta cloud platform. Also just a quick question, can you connect Bluetooth headphones which aren’t Sony ones?
Not directly no. The only wireless audio connection turned on for the Portal is PlayStation Link. You can however use a Bluetooth adaptor in the 3.5mm headphone jack to add Bluetooth. I show a couple of options for this in my original review from last year
hello, i dont own a ps5 or portal but wanted to get the portal. does this update mean you can buy a monthly subscription and instantly get access to a lot of ps5 games?
It does yes. Bear in mind that the games and their streaming are in Beta, so lots could change very quickly. But with the purchase of a Portal and the PlayStation Plus Premium subscription, monthly and annual options are available, you can play a curated library of PS5 games
the drop outs your having would that be due to your internet speed? reasons for asking is I have a 1gb connection and my rog ally never drops out or has bad quality and always feels like I'm playing the games natively
I also have gigabit broadband and suffer none of those issues on any other device. The Portal has the Snapdragon 662 entry level phone chipset inside, which isn't good in phones let alone a gaming handheld. It's just not as capable as a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, Ryzen Z1 even a Lunar Lake. That said the issue only crops up with remote play and the PS5 has a static IP and is hardwired. So who knows
Feels like somewhere along the way OP forgot this was a BETA release. Most things noted as negatives such as world wide release, trophy screen, lack of PS button functionality, all these issues must be because it’s in BETA. One would hope anyway.
One would indeed hope. I did mention the Beta first in my drawbacks section, so of course all of those challenges could change, improve or be added to during the Beta phase. Global rollout however, has been an issue since PS Now launched in 2012. 12 years later I'd personally hope for a better advancement than 8 additional countries. Who knows though, if the Portal Cloud gaming takes off could be the sign Sony needs
I had poor connection via laptop or my phone, Portal has the best connection for me - very polar opposite experience to Doragon. - maybe because my PS5 is wired via ethernet cable. It's great they have finally released cloud streaming to Portal - they mentioned about it in one of the interviews at the release that it might be a possibility in future and future has arrived.
Hello, thanks for the video. Quick question from a dad who does not really understand all this. We have a PS5 and 4 children. Child A will want to play COD while Child B Fortnite at same time. Would it now be possible for Child A to online stream one game on portable while Child B plays another game on console. Would this mean having two separate Playstation plus accounts? Cheers
With the example titles you give I'm sorry to say no, however that is only because neither Fortnite nor Call of Duty are available on the PS Portal Cloud Catalogue. If one wanted to play COD on the console though and the other wanted to play the likes of Ghost of Tsushima, which is included in the library, then it does work, I tested this exact scenario with my partner playing on the main console. Depending on the games that each wants to play, it does open up the options for multiple people to play at once
I wanna know if I buy games online through the PlayStation, will I be able to play them in the cloud? That will be a game changer for me. I don’t want a handpicked Library. I don’t really care about. I want my games and that will also make me buy games online through PlayStation so I can access them anywhere if I have Wi-Fi.
Not currently. The option is available on the PS5 though which one imagines the Portal Cloud proposition will be aiming to replicate. We'll have to wait and see but hopefully in the future it will be an option
As this feature is available on the PS5, and Xbox have just added this for Gamepass Ultimate subscribers, I would hope that in the short future we'll see the same from PlayStation on the Portal. Fingers crossed for this one
Actually, I can do this on my rog Ally as well. It is a PC although handheld. I can still use PlayStation Plus PC app and rewasd to emulate the dualsense
Oh the PC Handhelds have had this for a while, they're incredibly versatile devices. For many though they are also very expensive device which the Portal undercut by a large margin. Space for both I feel, and if you do have a PC handheld, rock that baby with all the bells abd whistles
@@Doragon86 yup that’s true. Most people who haven’t been gaming on a console their whole life and is coming in for the first time this is the better option. This is cheap, you dont need a console and quality is good on portal
There's no official line, however from some tests performed by other creators, writers and industry experts, you're looking between 2GB per hour for a 720p stream at 30fps, up to 8GB an hour for a 1080p stream at 60fps which is where the Portal maxes out
Very true! The PS Vita was so far ahead of its time with that SIM card slot. You can however tether to your phone to essentially make this a 5G version
@ yea Sony def was! probably made them hesitate to get back into the mobile industry. As to feel the waters with the portal before full commitment. I think gamers & mobility will always go hand in hand. I bought psp og and slim models, cfw the hell out of the thing & ps3 modding with Linux is instealled on a 60gb reformatted & partition HDD. This was 10-15 years ago. I’m ready to do it all again with how great technology has gotten. I remember 200mb at 250MHz ram in the thing .. we got 8-16 GBs clocked at up to 3200MHz now insane
Sir if i could point out, a while into the video i kept wondering why you say the Portal is a 200 pound console as if it weighed the same as a full grown man. Then i realized you meant that it COSTS 200 pound. But still 200 pounds is still the cheapest option to play PS5 games without needing to buy a overpriced PS5
It can yes! I'd recommend either 4G+ or 5G for the most stable connection, but 100% works. I have footage in my original review from a year ago if you want to see remote play performance tethered to your phone
@ does it work well with the cloud? Would you recommend getting one if you have bad internet at home? I’m trying to decide on getting one cause I have bad internet at home but my hotspot gets around 100 mbps and would get it if it works well at home using cloud with hotspot. Sorry if you have already addressed this somewhere else but you seem very knowledgeable. Thanks
@@JohnKranski it's hard to say. Every person has slightly different experiences with cloud gaming, the only way to be certain is to try it out. Obviously difficult to do if you don't own a Portal, however you can access PS cloud streaming on a PS4, PS5 or PC as well. I'd recommend trying a month of the service on one of these devices, on broadband and tethered to your phone, to see if it works well for you
The games that don’t play on the portal cloud streaming like you said Demon souls and Phoenix raisin try to stream them from your PlayStation to see if it’s the game or what
Remote play I get around 3 hours, I haven't had a long enough session on Cloud yet to quote fully, but it seems to drain at a similar rate. Work on 3 hours, anything better is a nice bonus then
The major differentiating factor I have found for both across the UK however, is that PlayStation's actually works as advertised all of the time whereas it is pot luck if Xcloud will even load, let alone be playable without lag. That's not to say Xbox weren't way ahead in this, I've been using Xcloud since the internal partner tests before launch, and I've had so many great experiences on it. But over time the service feels like it has been abandoned and has actually gotten worse while all competitors have improved. I do have a full video on it from this year if you'd like to check it out
@@Doragon86 even on 5G in America it loads up buttery smoove. Been playing black ops 6 Halo and Starfield. Never had that issue. Isn’t Sony using Microsoft azure. How is they using Microsoft cloud services but it’s working better for PlayStation in the UK?
Why tf they don't have cloud gaming for real like xbox greedy ahh ps "No need to buy console" ....breh what is you holding?? I'm playing stalker 2 on my iPhone with xbox and 5gplus data. That's no need to buy a console.
I have 1 Gigabit broadband and flawless gameplay in titles that load. Looking at comments here it appears to be a bug of the Beta that causes games not to load and affects people on different titles. Glad you can get into Demons Souls though, enjoy 😁
To put this behind a premium subscription especially for the people who paid an additional 200 for a portal is appalling. I will start boycotting sony if things don’t change. Luckily we have so many other ways to game in 2024
Cloud streaming on PS5 is offered for premium only as well, I don't know why you are surprised about it. Those servers, maintenance and technicians needs to be paid somehow for this additional service.
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With a full stream library... This could be brilliant.
The games I've tested so far (resident evil 2, uncharted & plucky squire) have worked perfectly. Now I actually want to use the portal again! ... (Until I've played what I want from the current library...).
Other than some games not even starting I've had the same, it has breathed life into the device where there basically was none previously.
I do think we need faster updates and advancement though if this is to be as game changing as it currently seems
@@Doragon86 Something you have to factor in now that the PlayStation Platform Group has its own CEO, I expect we're going to get peppered with updates and investment in the platform because Nishino's entire job performance relies on just this one thing. Can he make more money from the PlayStation platform. The only way to do that is to bring in more customers and better engage current customers.
Resi 2 and 3 dont seem to work for me for some reason, same with death stranding but yeah just got a portal after my gf bought me one and am extremely impressed with it even if some games dont work for me atm.
@@Doragon86they need to offer online streaming only option ! Maybe 7.99 or 9.99
Once that you can buy a game without owning a home console it will be a game changer
Mate I miss that from Stadia so much! The fact Xbox are now allowing it too I imagine it's only a matter of time
I have noticed a lil bit of lag playing sports and shooting games online, i need to know if they have the same problems with the new update (cloud games)
@@Alonsoseclen yeah I tried playing rocket league and cod online but it kept lagging
Great video thanks, well explained on the pro’s and cons. I’d love to play FIFA (or EA Sports FC) on a handheld but from my checks it’s not available yet on the beta cloud platform. Also just a quick question, can you connect Bluetooth headphones which aren’t Sony ones?
Not directly no. The only wireless audio connection turned on for the Portal is PlayStation Link. You can however use a Bluetooth adaptor in the 3.5mm headphone jack to add Bluetooth.
I show a couple of options for this in my original review from last year
I never even considered someone can get a portal , without a ps5, and just get plus service, to play games
Game changing isn't it!
hello, i dont own a ps5 or portal but wanted to get the portal. does this update mean you can buy a monthly subscription and instantly get access to a lot of ps5 games?
@@BarberCraftStudio you would need PlayStation plus premium
It does yes. Bear in mind that the games and their streaming are in Beta, so lots could change very quickly. But with the purchase of a Portal and the PlayStation Plus Premium subscription, monthly and annual options are available, you can play a curated library of PS5 games
There is 204 games to stream on portal and it awesome.
Right now there are about 204 games. They are mix of new and older games
the drop outs your having would that be due to your internet speed? reasons for asking is I have a 1gb connection and my rog ally never drops out or has bad quality and always feels like I'm playing the games natively
I also have gigabit broadband and suffer none of those issues on any other device.
The Portal has the Snapdragon 662 entry level phone chipset inside, which isn't good in phones let alone a gaming handheld. It's just not as capable as a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, Ryzen Z1 even a Lunar Lake.
That said the issue only crops up with remote play and the PS5 has a static IP and is hardwired. So who knows
Feels like somewhere along the way OP forgot this was a BETA release. Most things noted as negatives such as world wide release, trophy screen, lack of PS button functionality, all these issues must be because it’s in BETA. One would hope anyway.
One would indeed hope.
I did mention the Beta first in my drawbacks section, so of course all of those challenges could change, improve or be added to during the Beta phase.
Global rollout however, has been an issue since PS Now launched in 2012. 12 years later I'd personally hope for a better advancement than 8 additional countries. Who knows though, if the Portal Cloud gaming takes off could be the sign Sony needs
I had poor connection via laptop or my phone, Portal has the best connection for me - very polar opposite experience to Doragon.
- maybe because my PS5 is wired via ethernet cable.
It's great they have finally released cloud streaming to Portal - they mentioned about it in one of the interviews at the release that it might be a possibility in future and future has arrived.
Hello, thanks for the video. Quick question from a dad who does not really understand all this. We have a PS5 and 4 children. Child A will want to play COD while Child B Fortnite at same time. Would it now be possible for Child A to online stream one game on portable while Child B plays another game on console. Would this mean having two separate Playstation plus accounts? Cheers
With the example titles you give I'm sorry to say no, however that is only because neither Fortnite nor Call of Duty are available on the PS Portal Cloud Catalogue. If one wanted to play COD on the console though and the other wanted to play the likes of Ghost of Tsushima, which is included in the library, then it does work, I tested this exact scenario with my partner playing on the main console.
Depending on the games that each wants to play, it does open up the options for multiple people to play at once
I wanna know if I buy games online through the PlayStation, will I be able to play them in the cloud? That will be a game changer for me. I don’t want a handpicked Library. I don’t really care about. I want my games and that will also make me buy games online through PlayStation so I can access them anywhere if I have Wi-Fi.
@@JOERANSTRAIGHT nope, cloud games are separate from games you buy
Not currently. The option is available on the PS5 though which one imagines the Portal Cloud proposition will be aiming to replicate. We'll have to wait and see but hopefully in the future it will be an option
@ that sucks !
Be good if we can stream the games we buy too with out turning the console on
@@danielanderson6611 this is the question i have!! Maybe it’ll happen on the next update 🙏
As this feature is available on the PS5, and Xbox have just added this for Gamepass Ultimate subscribers, I would hope that in the short future we'll see the same from PlayStation on the Portal.
Fingers crossed for this one
I bought a few months ago hoping they would do this, I already have premium so this is great for me and will only get better after the beta.
Great Video ❤
Which game are you playing at 5:18?
That my friend, is Kena: Bridge of Spirits
Great game
Kena bridge of spirits
@@Doragon86 Just downloaded it last night. It’s so much fun!
@@fanpalm4339 really glad you're enjoying it!
Hey, what kind of ps plus subscription i need to playgames while playstation 5 is completely off?
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Actually, I can do this on my rog Ally as well. It is a PC although handheld. I can still use PlayStation Plus PC app and rewasd to emulate the dualsense
Oh the PC Handhelds have had this for a while, they're incredibly versatile devices. For many though they are also very expensive device which the Portal undercut by a large margin. Space for both I feel, and if you do have a PC handheld, rock that baby with all the bells abd whistles
@@Doragon86 yup that’s true. Most people who haven’t been gaming on a console their whole life and is coming in for the first time this is the better option. This is cheap, you dont need a console and quality is good on portal
Im surprised to see on my portal that how flawless games work when im cloud streaming rather than how badly it works when i connect it with my ps5.
is your PS5 wired via ethernet cable?
Will they ever allow you to play individual games you've bought from the playstation store?
No news on such things yet, you can however do it on the PS5, so it is definitely possible
I can’t get it to connect to hotel wifi, it connected once with QR code but can’t get it to repeat. Any ideas?
Great video!
How much mobile data does this use (per hour)???
There's no official line, however from some tests performed by other creators, writers and industry experts, you're looking between 2GB per hour for a 720p stream at 30fps, up to 8GB an hour for a 1080p stream at 60fps which is where the Portal maxes out
Hi 120 games not enough will they put much more games on the catalog ??
Need 5G model I’m sold
Very true!
The PS Vita was so far ahead of its time with that SIM card slot. You can however tether to your phone to essentially make this a 5G version
@ yea Sony def was! probably made them hesitate to get back into the mobile industry. As to feel the waters with the portal before full commitment. I think gamers & mobility will always go hand in hand. I bought psp og and slim models, cfw the hell out of the thing & ps3 modding with Linux is instealled on a 60gb reformatted & partition HDD. This was 10-15 years ago. I’m ready to do it all again with how great technology has gotten. I remember 200mb at 250MHz ram in the thing .. we got 8-16 GBs clocked at up to 3200MHz now insane
Sir if i could point out, a while into the video i kept wondering why you say the Portal is a 200 pound console as if it weighed the same as a full grown man. Then i realized you meant that it COSTS 200 pound. But still 200 pounds is still the cheapest option to play PS5 games without needing to buy a overpriced PS5
Haha. It do be an issue if you're from a region that uses lbs for weight XD
your thinking that PS5 is overpriced is hilarious
Does anyone know when the full library will be available
Can a iPhone hotspot work well with this or nah?
It can yes!
I'd recommend either 4G+ or 5G for the most stable connection, but 100% works. I have footage in my original review from a year ago if you want to see remote play performance tethered to your phone
@ does it work well with the cloud? Would you recommend getting one if you have bad internet at home? I’m trying to decide on getting one cause I have bad internet at home but my hotspot gets around 100 mbps and would get it if it works well at home using cloud with hotspot. Sorry if you have already addressed this somewhere else but you seem very knowledgeable. Thanks
@@JohnKranski it's hard to say. Every person has slightly different experiences with cloud gaming, the only way to be certain is to try it out. Obviously difficult to do if you don't own a Portal, however you can access PS cloud streaming on a PS4, PS5 or PC as well. I'd recommend trying a month of the service on one of these devices, on broadband and tethered to your phone, to see if it works well for you
The games that don’t play on the portal cloud streaming like you said Demon souls and Phoenix raisin try to stream them from your PlayStation to see if it’s the game or what
I got the Portal 2 days ago and tried the cloud out, Demon Souls was the first game I tried and it worked pretty good
@ yeah it’s been awesome
Wondering what's the battery life on portal. Thanks
@@maximus8992 5-6hrs
Remote play I get around 3 hours, I haven't had a long enough session on Cloud yet to quote fully, but it seems to drain at a similar rate.
Work on 3 hours, anything better is a nice bonus then
@Doragon86 thanks, seems short enough battery time.
What if you connected to romate play and then stream the game of your ps5 instead of playing downloaded and intalled how does that work???
I'm afraid it just doesn't. Remote Play tells you you've entered a blocked scene and offers no visual or audio
hope thay add spectacting mode watch other people play like onlive has and like amazon luna have
What is the game at 3.28 in the video
It's called Grime
Wow here is something I already been doing with my Xbox phone and backbone mind blowing 😂
@@rodeyrevenge let us PlayStation fans have this one win 😭 🙏
The major differentiating factor I have found for both across the UK however, is that PlayStation's actually works as advertised all of the time whereas it is pot luck if Xcloud will even load, let alone be playable without lag. That's not to say Xbox weren't way ahead in this, I've been using Xcloud since the internal partner tests before launch, and I've had so many great experiences on it. But over time the service feels like it has been abandoned and has actually gotten worse while all competitors have improved.
I do have a full video on it from this year if you'd like to check it out
@@Doragon86 even on 5G in America it loads up buttery smoove. Been playing black ops 6 Halo and Starfield. Never had that issue. Isn’t Sony using Microsoft azure. How is they using Microsoft cloud services but it’s working better for PlayStation in the UK?
@@TemplarianYT why do u want me to set back and let Sony bully PlayStation fans and take their money?
Hope they bring ps3 games to cloud streaming
Good and balanced review.
Thank you so much
👍👍👍👍👍
And yet still no way to put up a picture as a background in homescreen fu ps4
Internet speed needed for this?
@@penxcilmusic 10mbps minimum apparently
Sony say 7mbps for 720p and 13mbps for 1080p. Anything above ADSL broadband and you should be good to try
Wifi 6 is a must for smoother experience
Oh no gta 5 online 4 some odd reason
I need the ultimate sub for this ?
@@amen7099 yes so basically, you need 200$ for he device and 234$ for 12 months subscription
You do need PlayStation Plus Premium for cloud gaming, yes.
@@reygartv9184 120$
And I can remote play on galaxy fe all remote play games
Re2 re3 won't play
They worked great for me
@@ericmadison5343 work for me2
RE3 worked for me. I have RE2 install on PS5 so I haven't tried the cloud version
Both games run's flawlessly!
Why tf they don't have cloud gaming for real like xbox greedy ahh ps
"No need to buy console"
....breh what is you holding?? I'm playing stalker 2 on my iPhone with xbox and 5gplus data.
That's no need to buy a console.
Demon souls worked flawlessly for me. Get good network brother
I have 1 Gigabit broadband and flawless gameplay in titles that load. Looking at comments here it appears to be a bug of the Beta that causes games not to load and affects people on different titles.
Glad you can get into Demons Souls though, enjoy 😁
To put this behind a premium subscription especially for the people who paid an additional 200 for a portal is appalling. I will start boycotting sony if things don’t change. Luckily we have so many other ways to game in 2024
Cloud streaming on PS5 is offered for premium only as well, I don't know why you are surprised about it.
Those servers, maintenance and technicians needs to be paid somehow for this additional service.
@ bro what are you on about? look at sony’s profit margins on the expense of the customers.