I went with the Polygon Siskiu T8 for one big reason: at the time it was $300 more, but the Fox 34 by itself was a $500 upgrade from the Recon on the T7. Absolute no brainer on that one. 😁 A couple volume spacers, a faster rear tire, some tubeless valves, smaller chainring, and my own pedals are all I've done to my gorgeous purple beast. 🤘🤘
Never having used a trail cam th-cam.com/users/postUgkx2sTDdZXomuxedMg_HothfjSXjR3rpPkA before, I was very impressed with the quality of the images and videos. The sensitivity of the camera can be adjusted as well as the length of video recordings. Once I found the sweet spot, I was getting great clips of deer and other animals almost every day. I was worried about battery life but have been running off the same 4 aa batteries for over a month. The SD card is easy to remove and connect to a computer. I have a Mac, and the AVI files open natively in QuickTime and are easy to save and share. This is a great, budget-friendly trail cam.
I expected to see my bike in the list but I did NOT expect it to be #1! I picked up the Polygon T7 back in March with zero regrets! This bike is amazing!!!
Congrats man. I ride a San Quentin 2 27.5 and love it. I’m saving for this Polygon. I want to feel what I have been missing with a full suspension 29er.
@@junboo8730 sweet! You won't regret it! My old bike is so different in every way that I honestly can't tell you the difference bigger wheels make. It's a 2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport on 26" wheels. But I CAN tell you the Poly is better in every way except super sharp turns because the wheel base is 8" longer. But that's what I wanted because my old bike is super unstable at high speeds which makes jumping a bit sketchy.
I got a rift zone 1 last week. Already put at least 15 miles on it and zero problems, other than a slightly hard seat. I got mine at a local shop for only $1700, including $70 pedals and taxes.
The polygon t8 is the best value. The suspension components are great. The drive train is great. Only upgrades needed are better rotors and metallic pads and the bike is perfect.
Thank you for the information you provide I really enjoyed your videos. Your videos are definitely helping me making the decision making process to get my hands on one of these awesome machines
I've had my Polygon T8 since Oct of 20 and love it. The components are mostly SLX, with the exception of the brakes which are Tektro 4 piston. I've never had a problem stopping and I've never had a problem with the chain like some folks, which makes me happy. Oh yea when it came out I jumped on it and paid 2299.00, I see it's now up to 2699.00 but even at that it's well worth it.
I picked up the T8...absolutely love it. It's a great ride at a great price. Other contenders for that top spot would be Ibis Ripley AF & the Fezzari Adobe Peak, but I went w/the Polygon T8, so far no regrets. (I have made a few changes for more personal preference: seat, pedals, grips; but the build kit was solid, no issues)
thanks so much for the help - We relocated to North Alabama and my 11 speed Epic didn't have enough gear or tire to take advantage to the steep, rocky, and rooty riding around here. I picked up a new Polygon Siskiu T8 for me an found a lightly used Marin Rift Zone 2 for my wife. I'll report back in as we ride them more. This video did a good job of explaining the geometry and components. The road tests were also very helpful. By the way from what I can tell the new 12 speed Shimano Deore and better groupsets perform really well. I wasn't a fan of the 10 speed Deore, but the new 12 sped stuff is "bang on" fantastic. Next I need to read up on doing the tubeless conversion and setting up the shocks. - good times!
I’ve been riding a hard tail (Scott Scale) since I turned 60. I watched a lot of videos, including this one because I wanted to get a full suspension bike. I got the Scott Spark on sale for $2,400.
After getting my RM slayer stolen out of my house , I had to get a budget bike , so I choose the Marshall from Devinci . It’s pretty sad we have to lock our bikes up inside our house these days .
Fezzari has its aluminum offerings Abajo Peak Cascade Peak and Wiki Peak, they also have one of the least expensive Carbon Bikes I have found the Fezzari Delano Peak. I personally have the Abajo Peak.
I have almost one thousand miles on my D7 in very rocky terrain and other than 1 spoke nipple that broke it has had no issues and is all I could ask for in bang for the Buck! Med/27.5's and that Killer Radioactive Green and Black!
Subbing for the long travel version of this. Currently looking at the Specialized Status for big travel, short chain stays and DH bike geo for bike park/big mountain days and the odd enduro
Fyi, polygon is market leader at Indonesian local brand (polygon, Patrol, Thril) Siskiu series was most popular FS bike for beginners or expert mtb racer, selling point of polygon is DURABLE , good Finishing colour and welding specialy Valuable in the class Im sorry my bad grammar 🤭
Unfortunately the base price was raised to $4000 on the stumpjumper. Specialized now has their new "status" as their entry level full squish to hit that $3000 price point.
@@LithicKing really? A buddy of mine just got a stumpy about 2 months ago. $3,600. Fox suspension. Dropper post. 29inch wheels. One or two levels up from the NX drive train 12 speed
@@jbw5485 maybe he got it on sale, or maybe specialized JUST upped the prices. They've got them relisted starting at $4000 now on their website. I snagged mine in 2020 when you could get them at $3000, but seems they've made the status to take up that price point.
I got the t7 a while ago, and it’s been a great bike, the only thing I want to upgrade is the fork, but the stock fork is actually really good, it’s just flexy and I would prefer a stiffer fork
Great info! I have a 2013 Trance 29er and have had crap luck with my d link. Looking at upgrading with a couple options listed, found a used 21 Polygon T7 with upgraded fox rear shock and G2 brakes or go with a new Marin rift zone 1? Price is comparable but would have to drive for used option, is it worth going new over used for warranty?
Hey Ben, sorry for my negativity. In my opinion a downcountry bike is an XC bike with a little more travel. A 110 to 120 mm category. Like a SC Blur TR, or Orbea Oiz TR, etc. I ride an Ibis Ripley V4 at 120mm rear & 140mm fork. It sits in the same travel category as your list of bikes. I would not consider it a downcountry bike at all even though it is a very XCish Trail bike. 😁 I also ride an Ibis Ripmo V2 of which I would put in a somewhat new category, All mountain bike. It's a Trail bike that is almost an Enduro bike, but not quite. Overall, thank you for your efforts. People looking for a bike in the Budget category can really learn a ton from a well done video like this. Good information, comparisons, and valuable details. Thank you. 🤘🏼
Very good your videos, it is a pity that so many brands of bicycles have very good models and equip them with rockshox forks, which if they work but are very far from the quality of Fox. If they would also be more expensive but over time they come out cheaper. A pity.
Thanks for putting out your reviews and content. Super helpful. We tried our hand at a video, but I think my sons glove is covering the microphone so the next one will be better.. m.th-cam.com/video/P1eG1boxj8M/w-d-xo.html
You caught it as well. He clearly Mis spoke bro. The Top fuel is Treks down country bike. The Fuel Ex is the Classic Trail bike and the Slash is the Enduro bike. Now Top to bottom knows.
I found a santa cruz hightower cc and yt capra both in mint condition both for abt 1500$ each and im planning on picking up one of them unless i get an opportunity to get a downhill bike for a similar price but still 1500$ is a really good price
Haro and Diamondback make great budget full suspension bikes. Its funny though my 2nd full suspension cross country bike was $2400 and it was with top of the line shimano components on it and a few other top of the line parts.
im really on the fence about polygon IF i had not came across the fb page for cracked frames i would of already ordered one it just really makes me question the quality of build materials they are using for the frame itself.. what is even crazier is the fact that a bunch of T7 owners broke multiple frames even after getting the new gusset and supposedly polygon is still selling/ sending out the old inventory with the bad gusset design now its to the point if you crack a T7 frame a bunch of people are receiving the T8 frame without an option to pick from as a replacement. so IF you like the colors on the T7 and your frame cracks your kind of SOL .. something to note! i was hoping they would of redesigned the frame by now all together since it clearly has a weak link.
Awesome video. I want to ride all around f them… I’m actually in the market for a new bike. I ride hard trail and downhill parks. What’s you picks for that segment?
Is motobecane fly team with a titanium frame considered a good bike? I got one secondhand for a good price. My first bike as an adult. P.S. I know absolutely nothing about bikes. Just learned what disk brakes were the other day. Also, do most serious bikers get a full suspension bike (as opposed to a hard tail?)
I have the process 134 27.5 and those alhonga brake suck so bad. I was constantly fixing them and it cost $500. I bought new shimano brakes that work way better.
Ive only got a norco storm 4, ive used my mates dual suspension bikes in the past and they are much better, the storm isnt a bad bike for starting but when you wanna keep up and do more riding you just have to upgrade, i got a low budget of $1500 aud (around 1000 usd) until i get a job so i cant afford a very good bike, if anyones got any recommendations it wpuld be appreciated, just something thats good enough not to break easily (well built and good quality) doesnt have to be top tier performance, as long as its good for trails and can also perform well on small jumps
I would like to know how Intense and Foes compare to this list. I know Foes sells only frames and has the ability to build up combo's. to me I was wanting to know how to choose these two over your top -10 or buy one of these bikes. Great job in your research to help us understand whats out there that we can get right away with the financing that wont kill us each month.
Cheers Steve! Intense and foes are a little more boutique as the brands in the video… great bikes but they don’t manufacture/sell enough to beat the bang for buck of these brands…
Fun list. Hard to argue with the top end of the ranking. The bottom end is weird to me. The Kona Al Honga brakes are poopoo per Pinkbike’s test shoot out. If you are going to include an expensive frame with poor value spec, the new Rocky Mountain Instinct A10 would be my pick. New this year RM brought out their least expensive trim level ever. The frame is 10/10. How the Fezzari aluminum offerings missed this list is bonkers. The Abajo Peak or the more expensive version the Cascade Peak are pure value town. Marin consistently shocks me. Direct to consumer prices from a bike shop brand.
Hey Sean! Thx! OK… If I’m picking one, I’d take the Siskiu T8. It has the FOX suspension I’d upgrade to if the bike didn’t come with it, and a great build for a great price. If its a little out of budget the T7 is a great starter that you can upgrade overtime… Also look at a Marin Rift Zone. It’s on sale right now and a steal at $1799. Hope this helps a little… I know picking a bike is a big decision and just know that either way you go, you’re gonna have a blast on any of these! Cheers!🍻
@@TopToBottomMTB the Rift Zone 2 is on sale for $1949 right now. im curious where you would compare that to the T7 as they come stock? Im torn. T7 is $150 less but I don't love the colors.
for a bit more the spectral 125 al 6 is way better value than the al 5. if you wanna spend around £2249 the standard spectral al 5 is pretty good value. and if you’re going under 2k you may aswell get a nicer specked hardtail
giant in this vid is the best: 4 piston and big rotors with steepest seat tube angle and upgradable components all the way (compatible with betters or Rockshox Upgrades)
Oh.... Forgive me I'm just learning, but isn't the point of a trail bike to be more efficient at climbing, and efficient in general, while an enduro bikes main point is to be more capable even at the cost of efficiency in climbing? And doesn't Ibis put the Ripmo in the trail category, and doesn't the Ripmo climb better than almost any other bike in the category? I'm researching my next bike so I'm trying to understand. Thx!@@TopToBottomMTB
Ah, that seems like an important distinction that I didn't see in title, but I don't know squat about youtube so I'm sure there's some algorithm reason. Thanks for the explanation! Great breakdown! Cheers!@@TopToBottomMTB
I think the Radon Slide should have been mentioned considering what this brand offers in terms of price/performance (probably the best brand out there in this category). I just reviewed my Radon Swoop, it's not in this category since has 170mm front/back, but the idea behind is the same: great bikes at affordable prices! If you are interested, i leave the link below of my video: th-cam.com/video/3a5t2qzDlBo/w-d-xo.html, maybe you could do also the video on full bikes over 140mm 😎
I love my Radon Skeen 10 cf sl. Really fun bike. The Skeen 9.0 demolishes some of the bikes i this list if you ask me if youre looking for the best bang for your buck
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I went with the Polygon Siskiu T8 for one big reason: at the time it was $300 more, but the Fox 34 by itself was a $500 upgrade from the Recon on the T7. Absolute no brainer on that one. 😁 A couple volume spacers, a faster rear tire, some tubeless valves, smaller chainring, and my own pedals are all I've done to my gorgeous purple beast. 🤘🤘
Me too I’ve had it for two years, still love it
Never having used a trail cam th-cam.com/users/postUgkx2sTDdZXomuxedMg_HothfjSXjR3rpPkA before, I was very impressed with the quality of the images and videos. The sensitivity of the camera can be adjusted as well as the length of video recordings. Once I found the sweet spot, I was getting great clips of deer and other animals almost every day. I was worried about battery life but have been running off the same 4 aa batteries for over a month. The SD card is easy to remove and connect to a computer. I have a Mac, and the AVI files open natively in QuickTime and are easy to save and share. This is a great, budget-friendly trail cam.
Thx!
I expected to see my bike in the list but I did NOT expect it to be #1! I picked up the Polygon T7 back in March with zero regrets! This bike is amazing!!!
Oh yeah!!!! Congrats! I feel like that is hands down the best bang-for-buck bike going right now! 🤘🏻
Congrats man. I ride a San Quentin 2 27.5 and love it. I’m saving for this Polygon. I want to feel what I have been missing with a full suspension 29er.
@@junboo8730 sweet! You won't regret it! My old bike is so different in every way that I honestly can't tell you the difference bigger wheels make. It's a 2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport on 26" wheels. But I CAN tell you the Poly is better in every way except super sharp turns because the wheel base is 8" longer. But that's what I wanted because my old bike is super unstable at high speeds which makes jumping a bit sketchy.
@@omahamtb6580 Oh man thank you so much for the motivation. Ride safe and shred.
@@junboo8730 yeah, buddy! 🤘
Canyon is having a crazy sale, just picked up a spectral 125 Al 6 for 2300, regular is 3500$ usd, way too excited for it to get here 🤟🏻
I got a rift zone 1 last week. Already put at least 15 miles on it and zero problems, other than a slightly hard seat. I got mine at a local shop for only $1700, including $70 pedals and taxes.
Noice👌🏻
I considered the Spectral 125 but wanted more rear travel....got a Canyon Spectral 29 AL6 and have been loving it! So much bike for the money
I got the cf 7, it's perfect. A true all-mountain bike
Ton of work goes into these videos. Appreciate it bud, keep up the good work
Thanks Rene! Happy to hear that these help/entertain people out there! Glad to have you in the audience! Cheers!🍻
The polygon t8 is the best value. The suspension components are great. The drive train is great. Only upgrades needed are better rotors and metallic pads and the bike is perfect.
Great minds think alike…👌🏻
Thank you for the information you provide I really enjoyed your videos. Your videos are definitely helping me making the decision making process to get my hands on one of these awesome machines
Music to my ears!! Cheers!
I've had my Polygon T8 since Oct of 20 and love it. The components are mostly SLX, with the exception of the brakes which are Tektro 4 piston. I've never had a problem stopping and I've never had a problem with the chain like some folks, which makes me happy. Oh yea when it came out I jumped on it and paid 2299.00, I see it's now up to 2699.00 but even at that it's well worth it.
Cheers Don! You lucked out with that lower price… hopefully they’ll go on sale soon since it’s the end of the year…
i picked up the d7 a few months ago, nice to see it on the list. great video, bro.
Sweet! Your gonna have a blast on that thing! Cheers!🍻
I got the Kona 134, and it really is good in any trail.
I picked up the T8...absolutely love it. It's a great ride at a great price. Other contenders for that top spot would be Ibis Ripley AF & the Fezzari Adobe Peak, but I went w/the Polygon T8, so far no regrets. (I have made a few changes for more personal preference: seat, pedals, grips; but the build kit was solid, no issues)
AWESOME! Congrats on the bike! You’re gonna have a blast on that thing!
Man, I would have bought the T8 ages about, but it's been out of stock since late July in my size. WTH?! I'm now leaning towards the Fezzari Delano.
@@thebrewgeek I think its another great option!
thanks so much for the help - We relocated to North Alabama and my 11 speed Epic didn't have enough gear or tire to take advantage to the steep, rocky, and rooty riding around here. I picked up a new Polygon Siskiu T8 for me an found a lightly used Marin Rift Zone 2 for my wife. I'll report back in as we ride them more. This video did a good job of explaining the geometry and components. The road tests were also very helpful. By the way from what I can tell the new 12 speed Shimano Deore and better groupsets perform really well. I wasn't a fan of the 10 speed Deore, but the new 12 sped stuff is "bang on" fantastic. Next I need to read up on doing the tubeless conversion and setting up the shocks. - good times!
Congrats! You’ll have a blast on those bikes!🤘🏻
I’ve been riding a hard tail (Scott Scale) since I turned 60. I watched a lot of videos, including this one because I wanted to get a full suspension bike. I got the Scott Spark on sale for $2,400.
One of the most underrated TH-camrs I’ve watched!! Great video
😊Cheers!👊🏻
Wow…lots and lots of informations ! Will make bike shopping for everyone much easier!
Great video!
Commencal also uses 6066 aluminum for the their frames. It's stronger than the 6061 aluminum that other bike manufacturers use.
Ohana with the FACTS!🤓💪🏻
I dont know what to chose in between the trance x29 or the trek ex5 what would you chose
After getting my RM slayer stolen out of my house , I had to get a budget bike , so I choose the Marshall from Devinci . It’s pretty sad we have to lock our bikes up inside our house these days .
Truer words were never spoken…
Got 2022 slash 9.8 xt. Its an 8000 dollar bike but an absolute god.
Nice vid! Would be cool if you included the weight out of the box. Keep up the good work! 💪
recently purchased a kona 134 still waiting for it to arrive itll be a huge upgrade over my 2008 rockhopper
Fezzari has its aluminum offerings Abajo Peak Cascade Peak and Wiki Peak, they also have one of the least expensive Carbon Bikes I have found the Fezzari Delano Peak. I personally have the Abajo Peak.
Thx Joseph! I’ll check them out for the 2023 list!👊🏻
I have almost one thousand miles on my D7 in very rocky terrain and other than 1 spoke nipple that broke it has had no issues and is all I could ask for in bang for the Buck! Med/27.5's and that Killer Radioactive Green and Black!
Sick! Stoked to hear you love the bike! And that you ride it hard!🤘🏻
Well executed vid!! You will help a lot of riders!!
Merida one twenty 600 and Marin Rift zone xr are my picks for dc bikes in New Zealand 🇳🇿
You missed the GT Sensor Elite. 😂. Actually on sale here in Canada.
Ur vids are really good and detailed.
Great work
Thx homie!🤜🏼🤛🏼
Subbing for the long travel version of this. Currently looking at the Specialized Status for big travel, short chain stays and DH bike geo for bike park/big mountain days and the odd enduro
Sick! Welcome! The status is sick and definitely a contender in the long travel top 10. Working on it as we speak! Video should be out on the 30th.🤘🏻
What about the Canyon Neuron? 🤔
Fyi, polygon is market leader at Indonesian local brand (polygon, Patrol, Thril)
Siskiu series was most popular FS bike for beginners or expert mtb racer, selling point of polygon is DURABLE , good Finishing colour and welding specialy Valuable in the class
Im sorry my bad grammar 🤭
We need more guide like this. This is really good
Thanks Scotty!🤜🏼🤛🏼
You forgot Specialized Stumpjumper Alloy. I got it as nothing else was available at the time. Love this motorcycle 😅
It’s a bad ass bike. Upgradable as hell
Unfortunately the base price was raised to $4000 on the stumpjumper. Specialized now has their new "status" as their entry level full squish to hit that $3000 price point.
@@LithicKing really? A buddy of mine just got a stumpy about 2 months ago. $3,600. Fox suspension. Dropper post. 29inch wheels. One or two levels up from the NX drive train 12 speed
@@jbw5485 maybe he got it on sale, or maybe specialized JUST upped the prices. They've got them relisted starting at $4000 now on their website. I snagged mine in 2020 when you could get them at $3000, but seems they've made the status to take up that price point.
Bought my 2021 Alloy for $2200 brand new from the shop.
I got the t7 a while ago, and it’s been a great bike, the only thing I want to upgrade is the fork, but the stock fork is actually really good, it’s just flexy and I would prefer a stiffer fork
Cheers! Thanks!
I just got the Polygon T7 for $500 off from your link.
Thanks a mil bro🙏🏻😁
You should make a best mtb list for under $500 for people just getting into this.!
Will do… hard to find nowadays with even Walmart bikes being over $500…
If your budget is under 500 you need a new hobby lol
What would u recommend for 27.5? Thx
Great info! I have a 2013 Trance 29er and have had crap luck with my d link. Looking at upgrading with a couple options listed, found a used 21 Polygon T7 with upgraded fox rear shock and G2 brakes or go with a new Marin rift zone 1? Price is comparable but would have to drive for used option, is it worth going new over used for warranty?
Got my Rift Zone for 1500ish. Be here in a few days!
Appreciat the work put into this video! Keep it up!
It’s all for you guys! Happy to have you in the audience!👊🏻
I believe the Jeffsy comp (aluminum)was $3200
What about the Specialized status?
Great bike! And on sale now I hear…
YT Capra Base AL 27.5
180mm ZEB
2.799,-
Thx for the video, this got my sub!
Nice! Welcome to the crew homie!🤘🏻
Great, informative video. Only one argument. These are all "Trail Bikes" not Downcountry bikes. The only Downcountry would be the Polygon D7.
True… these 2 genres are blending into each other as of late…
Hey Ben, sorry for my negativity. In my opinion a downcountry bike is an XC bike with a little more travel. A 110 to 120 mm category. Like a SC Blur TR, or Orbea Oiz TR, etc.
I ride an Ibis Ripley V4 at 120mm rear & 140mm fork. It sits in the same travel category as your list of bikes. I would not consider it a downcountry bike at all even though it is a very XCish Trail bike. 😁 I also ride an Ibis Ripmo V2 of which I would put in a somewhat new category, All mountain bike. It's a Trail bike that is almost an Enduro bike, but not quite.
Overall, thank you for your efforts. People looking for a bike in the Budget category can really learn a ton from a well done video like this. Good information, comparisons, and valuable details. Thank you. 🤘🏼
The Giant Trance looks the best imo. I bet many other bikes on the list are also manufactured by Giant.
Had a Trance before my Meta… loved it.
This channel is WAYYY Underrated…
Just started 7months ago… but THANKS Victor! 🍻
Scott Genius 950 or Siskiu T8???
can you make best trail bikes for under 1000 bucks it would be lovely
i own a spectral 125 aL 5 and its perfect
🤘🏻
Part 2 of this film can cover
Ghost
Orbea
Kross
I believe should be possible to choose some cost effective solutions
Could you do a video on
Budget long travel enduro/super enduro/freeride bikes? Love the vid keep it up!
Thanks! Working on it! Enduro top 10 list should be out on the 30th.👊🏻
@@TopToBottomMTB brilliant! Subbed and looking forward to it!
Also those vitus bikes are bomb proof, saw a mythique being sent huge on 40ft doubles at my local park!
@@torfossberg1137 Sick! Thx for the support!🤘🏻
How can i buy the polygon online in europe
Maybe polygon’s website will have a link to a local retailer…
Very good your videos, it is a pity that so many brands of bicycles have very good models and equip them with rockshox forks, which if they work but are very far from the quality of Fox. If they would also be more expensive but over time they come out cheaper. A pity.
What are your thoughts on the Cannodale habit 4?
Local shop has a good sale on one.
Great bike! You pay a little for the name but they’ve been around for ever… Hard to find a bad bike these days.
Thanks for putting out your reviews and content. Super helpful. We tried our hand at a video, but I think my sons glove is covering the microphone so the next one will be better..
m.th-cam.com/video/P1eG1boxj8M/w-d-xo.html
When did the trek ex 5 become a down country bike?
That's what the top fuel is
10mm difference in the travel, a bigger fork and slacker head angle… at the same price, I’d buy the fuel ex
@@TopToBottomMTB same. but you say the fuel ex is a down country bike, it's a trail bike. The top fuel is the down country bike.
You caught it as well. He clearly Mis spoke bro. The Top fuel is Treks down country bike. The Fuel Ex is the Classic Trail bike and the Slash is the Enduro bike. Now Top to bottom knows.
Do long travel best value bikes please.
How's the fork on the meta?
Cannondale Habit?
I have the marin Rift Zone 1 2023 qnd my frame brone
In a crash?
I found a santa cruz hightower cc and yt capra both in mint condition both for abt 1500$ each and im planning on picking up one of them unless i get an opportunity to get a downhill bike for a similar price but still 1500$ is a really good price
Would the polygon T7 be ideal for races like the Titan Desert or the Atacama Spirits?
All the bikes on this list are truly do it all bikes! T7 and T8 are my personal favs!
Haro and Diamondback make great budget full suspension bikes. Its funny though my 2nd full suspension cross country bike was $2400 and it was with top of the line shimano components on it and a few other top of the line parts.
Wud love to own some of these bikes
T7 user here from philippines
Upgraded with slx groupset
Bird bikes UK plenty of different bikes from 130- 180mm and custom options for your budget
Heard bad things about Polygon's after sales support. But you can't deny the value.
im really on the fence about polygon IF i had not came across the fb page for cracked frames i would of already ordered one it just really makes me question the quality of build materials they are using for the frame itself.. what is even crazier is the fact that a bunch of T7 owners broke multiple frames even after getting the new gusset and supposedly polygon is still selling/ sending out the old inventory with the bad gusset design now its to the point if you crack a T7 frame a bunch of people are receiving the T8 frame without an option to pick from as a replacement. so IF you like the colors on the T7 and your frame cracks your kind of SOL .. something to note! i was hoping they would of redesigned the frame by now all together since it clearly has a weak link.
Awesome video. I want to ride all around f them…
I’m actually in the market for a new bike. I ride hard trail and downhill parks. What’s you picks for that segment?
Love the polygon t7 and t8… it’s what I would buy.
Links in my description if you’re looking to pick one up! 🤘🏻 Thanks for supporting the channel!
My Marshall just works. All over the mountain all day.
🤣 it Just works! All day! Er day!
Polygon T7 is the best choice 🤘
T8. Spec with SLX & Fox Performance is worth the upgrade…on any of the bikes. Tektro brakes? Well, if something needs to be replaced, brakes are easy.
Please do one for full suspension carbon.
🥵ok ok…🤣
Is motobecane fly team with a titanium frame considered a good bike? I got one secondhand for a good price. My first bike as an adult. P.S. I know absolutely nothing about bikes. Just learned what disk brakes were the other day.
Also, do most serious bikers get a full suspension bike (as opposed to a hard tail?)
There are still purists out there that only ride hard-tails… Most of the bikes you see out there are full suspension though… such a better ride.
I have the process 134 27.5 and those alhonga brake suck so bad. I was constantly fixing them and it cost $500. I bought new shimano brakes that work way better.
missed the YT jeffsy core 2... great bike for 3k
Agreed! The Jeffsy is 150mm of travel though… It didn’t fit in this 140mm and under list. It’s a contender in the next video.🤘🏻
@@TopToBottomMTB The Commencal on this list is a 150/140 bike.
@@minihoog9327 yep! The list is bikes with 140mm or less rear wheel travel.
Love my izzo core 2 it's not exactly in this budget at $3400 but idk if you can do any better for that price
Ive only got a norco storm 4, ive used my mates dual suspension bikes in the past and they are much better, the storm isnt a bad bike for starting but when you wanna keep up and do more riding you just have to upgrade, i got a low budget of $1500 aud (around 1000 usd) until i get a job so i cant afford a very good bike, if anyones got any recommendations it wpuld be appreciated, just something thats good enough not to break easily (well built and good quality) doesnt have to be top tier performance, as long as its good for trails and can also perform well on small jumps
I’d go with a Marin rift zone or something like that… might have to save up a little longer…
@@TopToBottomMTB yeah i was planning on saving to get either a marin rift zone or a merida one twenty 400 as i heard it was pretty good for the price
You can do rockrider AM 50
I would like to know how Intense and Foes compare to this list. I know Foes sells only frames and has the ability to build up combo's. to me I was wanting to know how to choose these two over your top -10 or buy one of these bikes.
Great job in your research to help us understand whats out there that we can get right away with the financing that wont kill us each month.
Cheers Steve! Intense and foes are a little more boutique as the brands in the video… great bikes but they don’t manufacture/sell enough to beat the bang for buck of these brands…
Fun list. Hard to argue with the top end of the ranking. The bottom end is weird to me. The Kona Al Honga brakes are poopoo per Pinkbike’s test shoot out. If you are going to include an expensive frame with poor value spec, the new Rocky Mountain Instinct A10 would be my pick. New this year RM brought out their least expensive trim level ever. The frame is 10/10.
How the Fezzari aluminum offerings missed this list is bonkers. The Abajo Peak or the more expensive version the Cascade Peak are pure value town.
Marin consistently shocks me. Direct to consumer prices from a bike shop brand.
Thanks for chiming in Devin! I have some Fezzari in the longer travel top 10…🤘🏻
The buyers guide 🤴
Thanks Phil!😊
Great video! OK SO IF YOUR PICKING ONE OF THESE…WHICH ONE ARE YOU TAKING AND WHY????!!!!
Hey Sean! Thx! OK… If I’m picking one, I’d take the Siskiu T8. It has the FOX suspension I’d upgrade to if the bike didn’t come with it, and a great build for a great price. If its a little out of budget the T7 is a great starter that you can upgrade overtime… Also look at a Marin Rift Zone. It’s on sale right now and a steal at $1799. Hope this helps a little… I know picking a bike is a big decision and just know that either way you go, you’re gonna have a blast on any of these! Cheers!🍻
@@TopToBottomMTB the Rift Zone 2 is on sale for $1949 right now. im curious where you would compare that to the T7 as they come stock? Im torn. T7 is $150 less but I don't love the colors.
Happy to have the T8..
Great bike!
Where’s the Norco Fluid?!
It’ll be in the 2023 video for sure!!
for a bit more the spectral 125 al 6 is way better value than the al 5. if you wanna spend around £2249 the standard spectral al 5 is pretty good value. and if you’re going under 2k you may aswell get a nicer specked hardtail
giant in this vid is the best: 4 piston and big rotors with steepest seat tube angle and upgradable components all the way (compatible with betters or Rockshox Upgrades)
Which bike is the cheapest and what's the price
Why doesnt Commencal give a standover height?
🤔not sure… I’ll ask
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How in the WORLD did you not include the Ibis Ripmo or Ripley AF for around 3k?
It’s in the enduro list.
Oh.... Forgive me I'm just learning, but isn't the point of a trail bike to be more efficient at climbing, and efficient in general, while an enduro bikes main point is to be more capable even at the cost of efficiency in climbing? And doesn't Ibis put the Ripmo in the trail category, and doesn't the Ripmo climb better than almost any other bike in the category? I'm researching my next bike so I'm trying to understand. Thx!@@TopToBottomMTB
@@Zach_Routhier yes but this video focused on bikes with under 140mm travel.
Ah, that seems like an important distinction that I didn't see in title, but I don't know squat about youtube so I'm sure there's some algorithm reason. Thanks for the explanation! Great breakdown! Cheers!@@TopToBottomMTB
@Zach_Routhier yeah it’s on the thumbnail… cheers homie!✌🏻
Dang! The giant stance didn’t even make the list.. Hope I didn’t make a $2000 mistake…
U gotta have 4pot brakes 203mm front rotor if your 105kg
Personally I'd save up a little more and the essential version of the meta tr
Yeah I agree… but at some point you just gotta get a bike and get out there!🤘🏻
Scott Spark 960 not considered?
I had almost 50 bikes on the list and could only pick 10.🥵 Tried to keep it under 3k US for this budget list. Thanks!👊🏻
Are there actually good full suspension bikes for 1000 and under?
Depends on what you consider mountain biking…
I think the Radon Slide should have been mentioned considering what this brand offers in terms of price/performance (probably the best brand out there in this category). I just reviewed my Radon Swoop, it's not in this category since has 170mm front/back, but the idea behind is the same: great bikes at affordable prices! If you are interested, i leave the link below of my video: th-cam.com/video/3a5t2qzDlBo/w-d-xo.html, maybe you could do also the video on full bikes over 140mm 😎
Thanks Oreste! I’ll check it out and put it on the gauntlet for the next video… 140mm of travel and over☝🏻. Cheers!🍻
I love my Radon Skeen 10 cf sl. Really fun bike. The Skeen 9.0 demolishes some of the bikes i this list if you ask me if youre looking for the best bang for your buck
Trek fuel ex 5
I think YT should be in there
IZZO was over 4k