Bachelor In Paradise Recap: Ep 4 | Kisses & Betrayal in "Imploding" Paradise - Ep 69 - Dear Shandy
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- By popular request, Shandy is back with Bachelor In Paradise recaps! Today we're breaking down episode 4, season 7.
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Sharleen is a veteran Bachelor recapper, having recapped for 7 years (!) on her blog, All The Pretty Pandas, and for Flare magazine, since her own appearance on Season 18. Andy, meanwhile, has never watched a full season (this is no joke-he even fast-forwarded through most of Sharleen's own season). But, being married to the "Recap Queen", even he has gleaned a thing or two. Hear Shandy break down Season 17 of The Bachelorette with Sharleen's insider perspective, Andy's unfiltered male perspective, and Shandy's combined analytical minds.
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I'm here for Andy's honesty. He suffer-watches, and I love it. 😂
For honesty.
I'm so glad Riley's cake-based lament was recognized for being so adorably relatable 🥰
I can't get over how great Sharleen looks in every outfit ever! The overalls and the double buns, soooo cute!
Really surprised no one has commented on Andy's socks. I had assumed maybe his socks would be plain like his shirts, but they are not. Really enjoyed those surprising bananas.
Thank you for noticing! My banana socks have gotten no love 😔
I really thought maurissa had an obligation to tell Connor it was over between them. I didn’t like how she continued to lead him on when she could’ve just said this is over
She lacked maturity in a big way
Same, she was very immature and it shows why a lot of their irl relationships don't progress. She called Mari immature but what she did was just the same.
Maurissa certainly should have given him a direct answer to his questions because she knows it’s over - there’s nothing left for Connor to do. Part of being an adult in adult relationships is having uncomfortable conversations that we’d rather avoid. (SN: bonus points to Riley for asking/suggesting that Maurissa talk to Connor during one of their early scenes this week).
For his sake, though, I wish Connor (and many others on this show) would use their context clues and body language to glean what they aren’t receiving in words. Perhaps that’s something that we learn better over time/experience; it doesn’t serve anyone to listen only to words when there is much more information available to make the best decision for you.
Only someone who cannot read any social cues would think she didn't give enough of an answer. Women are conditioned to let men down easy. He refused to listen.
Lol exactly!
You have fast become my favorite Bachelor franchise recap show.
7:36 I love that Andy is just letting it rip here (pun intended). His frustration with the show is so fun and relatable. 😊 Edited to add that Sharleen is awesome, as always! 💕
I'm half way through quarantine and very grateful for your entertainment. It's been an exhausting, scary and stressful week. Very little manages to take my mind away to lighter things. Thank you :)
You've got this!!
I really feel you. Happy to help with a little escapism. Sending strength and support! 💛
Sending you POSITIVE energy Letta Jones. Stay strong and distracted.💐
Sending you love 🌟
Andy’s sense of humor has officially grown on me and I’m here for it
Andy has made me laugh out loud right from the beginning of their podcasts!
@@trigsoleil5157 He's so funny and I love how subtle he is about it.
Your hunch is right about Jessenia and Chris knowing each other ahead of time, Sharleen. There are pictures of them hanging out from a few months ago. I was confused until I found that out because like you said, why would Jessenia be specifically talking to the others about being excited for Chris-a night one elimination on Clare’s season-to arrive lol. No offense to him, it’s just very random without that explanation.
Yes! usually people mention a contestant who was at least a top 10 guy/girl..but a night 1 guy, who we've seen for a second is not usually a top pick for someone. It would at least be different if he actually had some screentime
Sharleen was truly spot about Jessenia and Chris knowing each other before the show. A photo surfaced yesterday of them pre-show together and Katie Thurston confirmed they all hung out together as friends.
Ahhh didn't know this! Thanks!
I'm the 49th view! I don't watch Bachelor anymore but I still love these updates. Sharleen and Andy I love your banter, sarcasm, and intelligence. I also love how you defended Maurissa and acknowledged that it's messed up women get more judgement when it comes to sex. The hypocrisy is real. Especially after living abroad for many years I see the hypocrisy of Americans constantly saying 'this is a free country' and being open on one hand, and then when it comes to sex, everyone gets prude and judgemental. I don't care who you are or when you do it - if it's done consensually and safely, I support it.
Andy saying "she really wants her box filled" is classic
Once again, you've proved the value of dissecting these episodes as relationship experts. As much as it may seem like slogging through the mud uphill, you really do provide useful information despite getting dirty in the process. Thank you! And, Sad Sack, while descriptive, doesn't fit the reality of a sensitive, creative spirit like Connor. He's much more the result of expecting to get whacked, which is the bane of those whose imaginations always lead them back to pain. And, pain, it would seem, is a powerful source of material for songwriters (and others).
To be honest I fell asleep during the episode, so it’s nice to hear your conclusion 😂❤️
😂😂
Andy: “Do the wrong thing, always.” 😂☠️
HAHA that killed me
It's that combined with his straight face as he said it!!
Killed me 😂😂
I want you guys to know that I am only watching Bachelor in Paradise because I want to relate to your recaps. That’s how much I enjoy your repartee!
I normally nod along in agreement with you guys, but I think you missed the mark on Mari here. She went to a guy she was dating, who had never asked to be exclusive, and pre-emptively was like "hey I like you but I don't want to be exclusive." Huge chance that doesn't go down well. And worse, she explicitly and repeatedly said that only SHE wanted to be non-exclusive. (I got clear vibes that she thought she was the "settler" in this pairing and would be more sought after than he was.) I was 100% with Kenny when he said that she misunderstood what she herself said. I'd say gaslighting except I think Mari genuinely thought she was saying something different--in her mind having an official "date card" would make it different, but it's not and Kenny rightly informed her of that. That would be bad enough, but then she later went on to make it clear that she was hoping saying that would spur him to make some big romantic gesture! So it was definitely a power play. She thought she was hot shit and had the rose. I thought Kenny was pretty mature in most of his responses. He didn't go seek out Demi, but when she came on to him--why not? Mari self-sabotaged hard.
With Joe and Kendall, I remember him mentioning somewhere that he and Kendall broke up because of the geography situation but he added in that there were also other things that weren't working in the relationship. So it could either be an edit or that he chose not to go into the nitty gritty and just left it at geography when he was sharing with Serena why it didn't work out before.
Yes! I could’ve sworn on one of their first conversations Joe mumbled about them starting to grow apart too.
I'm glad you guys talked about the slut shaming because I saw so many tweets shaming Maurissa and it made me so angry. And I didn't see one single tweet shaming Riley. Not that he should be shamed, but I'm sick of the double standard.
Also Ivan is a super stand up guy. Love that him and Jessenia have that friendship after they decided there wasn't more than friendship there. Shows maturity that they can joke about it and move on haha.
And "high quality petty" lmao. You guys are funny.
Demi is a rotten avocado lmfaoooo I love Andy
I think another factor in the reason Maurissa is being wrongfully shamed is that her action affects Conner who is beloved by a lot of bachelor nation. Not defending the people shaming her, but it felt like that played a factor.
Loving this !!!!! Andy is tooooooo honest I love ittttttt
Thank you for sharing this
Sharlene you looking so cuteeeee
Love to see y’all subscribers going up! Y’all deserve it so much.♥️
Thank you for the recap! Also I heard that Natasha, Piper and Brendan are all friends and Natasha is just holding a space until Piper comes.
I wouldn’t kiss my friend’s man 🧐
@@sudukemsn nope me either but I think they are "playing the game" and cool with it until she comes.
Yes, that's very true!
I wonder why Natasha would give up her chance at finding love
So thankful for your commentary! Makes me laugh so much and I appreciate the very frank and adult conversations about the show :D
Blake Horstmann has said that producers kept him from going to the bathroom in order to get certain clips of him in discomfort. I wonder if something similar could explain the Tahzjuan “tornado”? That would explain her strange conversation on the beach with the hidden producer.
That is so fucked up if true...
I believe it, even the scenes of Joe bent over double last week when Serena went on the date were really of him with a stomach bug, according to Joe himself.
Oooh... makes total sense now!! She specifically talked about pee and poop right before she let her big fed up scream in front of the ocean. That made her look craycray, but with that context, absolutely normal.
@@7lillie I thought he looked sick! He had a big jug of pedialyte next to him and looked so miserable.
That’s exactly what I thought about, Blake talking about not being able to pee and it’s not surprising if they did that to her. She looked absolutely distressed. How fucked up to keep someone from the bathroom to make them as stressed as possible for the possibility of “good tv”
I still want Ivan for The Bachelor!!
I need mindfullness audio clips with Sharleen's voice.
Haha I’m flattered, thank you! 😂
Yes please
Life coaching podcasts please
Me too 😍
I love watching the bachelor franchise but love these recaps even more.
Spot on recap, Completely said what I was thinking throughout the show! Also, Sharleen where did you get those overalls?? I love those!
LOVE how sarcastic- yet so truthful you guys are LOL! Keep doing recaps :) Out of any of the guys there, I would go for Joe or Thomas haha. They seem the most comfortable in their own skin and just down to earth (even though people seem to think Thomas isn't- I think he is, but just gets pitted as someone more malicious) LOL I don't give him that much credit. He just seems to be doing the best he can and just going about his day- but in the process every dude hates him for that LOLL. Shows more of them than of him haha.
You guys are better suited to recap BIP than the Bachelor or the Bachelorette. Its your frank comments, delivered in your unique style that sets you apart. Don't change that.
sharleen and Andy are the best!
Thanks to both of you for slogging through this episode. I checked the time at 9:05 and groaned that there was still an hour left. I decided then and there I'd just catch the recaps and went to read a book instead. 😂
I don’t usually comment but my inner math nerd has to. It’s a geometer. I don’t do it for a living but I did study master’s level modern geometry and algebraic topology. :)
Wells said Mari was going to throw the cake in the ocean but he convinced her to throw it in the fire instead.
Hahah good choice! I don't think it would have had the same dramatic effect if she threw it in the ocean
Love these two!! The best recap pod.
Only watching this show to listen to the recap. Love the analysis lol.
Omg, I said the same exact thing about Demi . Can’t wait til she’s gone !
As always, love your spot on recaps! It’s the only recap podcast that I listen to these days so keep up the good work. I was slightly disappointed that Sharleen didn’t comment on the blatantly obviously frankenbiting that the occurred with Serena about Joe right before their date. It was bananas. At least 6-8 clips were strung together. That’s my only critic. 😘😘
I couldn't put my finger on why last night's episode was so unsatisfying. Thanks to Shandy, I now know: It had no beginning, middle, or end, and it sucked! Demi annoys the crap outta me, because she's not even here to stir the pot or find love; she's just there for her own exposure and is a total production puppet.
Thankfully, you guys saved this week, through Sharleen being effing ADORABLE in that overalls/pigtails look, and Andy acknowledging it's not an island (I promise, I'll never say it again--I think you're great and didn't mean to piss you off)!
I also appreciated you guys catching the "filling boxes" bit. I know I can count on you. Love you guys!
Haha thank you! And there was no pissed-off-edness, don’t worry 😂
@@dearshandy Andy looked mighty irked, straight into the camera! He looked right at me, I just know it! XD xx
So you cant leave me hanging......who on fboy island are you talking about?Love your recap .You can make boring tv interesting..Good job as always
Came here for this answer too🤣
Andy, I’m right with you on production’s failings. They spend so much time/effort throwing in obstacles to create drama, but often leave entertaining and important details on the cutting room floor that would advance the storylines more organically.
Now that contestants (and some of the fans) are fully immersed in social media, they should bring out these pre-show interactions to add context and credibility to the show. Meeting in advance or DMing doesn’t guarantee that a couple will be a perfect match once on the island with all the excitement and temptation around them. Just tell the full story.
On the beach 🤦🏾♀️. I’ve been watching for years and still make that mistake.
In Italy there are Geometrists. It is a well payed job actually and they work much more than architects for example. They are respected too. It could absolutely be a work of a geometrist!
But we would say "geometer", not "geometrist"! 😄
Hahaha, sorry! I thought for a moment there is no such job in the US. But Andy does say geometrist or does he say geometer?! 🧐😂
Now I’m confused. Anyway, I know many Geometri 😝 They would love to work on 'THE ISLAND'!
@@carolineluciamichalski2804 😄He definitely does say "geometrist", but I don't blame him for not knowing hte correct term😛. Anch'io conosco molti geometri! 😁
😂😂😂 loving your comment!
I would say that I got lost in translation 🤷🏽♀️
I agree with Sharleen. It was an insult to dogs. (Sorry Andy)
A mathematician who specialises in geometry is a geometer :) But I like geometrist, too! (At least in the US academic maths world, as far as I know.)
It was a lukewarm pile of crap ~ on a sad-sacking, boom-boom rooming, landlocked place that feels like an island ~ insufferable!!
You two are the BEST! Deadpan. Often dry. But so funny! I like watching you more than I like watching BIP.
What is Sharleen’s fashion blog called? She always looks amazing, even her hair… I would love to learn style tips from her ❤️
My boyfriend is watching for the first time this season and I am having him listen to you guys each week! We love it so much! You are so fun and sweet together.
I have to disagree with you about the Mari/Kenny situation somewhat. I understand that Kenny felt hurt about her wanting to be able to date other people. It felt like she was saying she wanted him unless someone better comes around. Do I think he could have been more classy about how he handled it? Absolutely. There was no reason to rub Mari’s face in it, but I understand him beginning to look at other people.
Chris and Jessenia definitely knew each other prior to the show - there's enough social media that's proving it now
dry dog sh*t!! I cannot stop laughing
Omg first view! I love your recaps!!
Thank you! 🥰
Just curious, were you guys talking about Garrett from FBoy Island? Or Casey?
34:25 - When Connor asked Maurissa, "Well, what are you doing tonight?" she kinda freaked and probably thought he was referencing her and Riley ending the night together, which is why she answered with, "What do you mean?" she was trying to probe and see if Connor heard a rumor. That's when I was hoping she would fess up and say it was over right then and there. He was gonna find out eventually anyway!
I really need to know which person you're talking about on FBoy Island.
found a perfect solution to endure the episode: watching it on 2x or 2.5x speed ^^ much more bearable this way!
am also really surprised by how much I appreciate Joe and Serena. Thought they'd be boring, but it turns out they're the only couple that I can bear to watch in regular speed :D their date conversation seemed relatively natural and "authentic".
I have this giant feeling that Mari went away with the cake to get producers permission to destroy it lmao
57:39 Joe and Kenny are polar opposites.....Serena goes on a date and Joe doesn't love it but he's confident enough to know she'll come back to him. Mari discusses going on a date and Kenny needs to punish her (unfortunately, Mari rewards this behavior by wanting him even more).
You guys have converted me into listening to podcasts. This is the only one I follow regularly! I can listen to Sharleen talking about anything... such a soothing voice, perfect pronounciations!
I 💯 agree with your take on everything. I like Demi but she has been too much... borderline annoying now. Looking forward to more podcasts!
I'm pretty sure Joe broke up with Kendall. I remember reading articles about how Kendall was blindsided when he gave her an ultimatum (like either move to Chicago or we break up) so they broke up.
No I think Kendall always had the power
Oh my gosh I love listening to you both. It’s relaxing and I love how you both light heartedly poke fun at BIP but still getting into it. Love you both!
I also thought what was wrong with Kenny was that he was just doing those things with Demi to specifically hurt Mari instead of tell her that what she said angered/hurt him. He acted cool about it and then went out to specifically hurt her. You can not have a relationship if you act like that, communication!!! I have done this same mistake in a relationship when I was hurt… difference was… I was 19 and not 40 years old 😅
Feel for him but he needs to work on expressing his feelings in a healthy way
I'm with Andy regarding Connor playing the sad sack in future iterations of Bachelor shows (because I doubt he will find love and I guess he will be back for more). It certainly would fit with the way Joe seems to play up his mopey bad game.
The most interesting part of this episode was talk about the cake. I love Sharleen outfit. she looks pretty
I saw Sharleen wearing relaxed overalls so I bought relaxed overalls 😍
Haha overalls for all occasions! 😘
I loved this episode.
Re: @20:30 - 20:44 I wondered if something had been cut out in that conversation, because it felt like such a non sequitur.
● The positive spin - “I’ve been pulled by every guy so far, and I’m still with Kenny. It’s not about a particular guy but worried that I’m missing out on the full experience.”
● The negative - being unwittingly arrogant, as Sharleen said. As a pageant winner and naturally gorgeous woman, I wouldn’t be surprised if Mari doesn’t hear herself with her reactions.
And on the broader conversation:
The newbies do not have to/choose to speak with all of the contestants before asking someone out. Previous contestants of color (specifically Black women) shared they felt invisible/undesirable during Paradise when there are multiple new options rotating in but still not getting much romantic attention. At least when you’re 1 of 25+, you know the odds aren’t in your favor.
I suspect that may have played a part in Tahzjuan’s abrupt departure after Becca showed up. Last week I was thrilled that we saw Riley go out of his way to meet all of the Black women on the cast (even if Tahz bungled that moment). Tre leaves, and then Becca arrives looking AMAHZING and she saw all of the men light up when they saw her. If I were her, I’d feel pretty deflated too.
I heard on another podcast that originally she was going to throw the cake in the ocean. But Wells, the bartender, told her it will be more dramatic to throw it into the fire
#41:00 when someone is not willing to even consider trying to make a sacrifice for the other, after the other did that for them it's not only a "geographical" issue... it shows about their level of commitment and love to the other. Joe moved to LA although it was really not his cup of tea and and Kendall was not even willing to give it a try or meet in the middle.
Sharleen you always look so effortlessly beautiful, I love this hair style, it really suits you... Great recap as always, it's so fun and find you guys so intriguing... Do you know why they called bachelor in paradise since bachelorettes are there too? Lol
I remembered why I really don't like BIP. Everyone including Kenny was so immature. It's like I understand wanting to be on a reality show but so many of them act like children. It wasn't even fun to watch. Ivan potentially being let go is also sad because again he is there for the right reasons.
I hear Wells said to throw in the fire as she wanted to throw in the water
actually dying to know who you’re talking about from fboy island 🤣 it CAN’T be garrett?!!
Oooooh, this is a first. I actually disagree with you guys on the Mari-Kenny situation. That never happens!!! 💔😉 My read is quite the opposite. ..
I can't believe I'm team Kenny but this episode turned it around for me. I think it that was pretty much a diva move from Mauri (I'd ask you to stay there worshipping me and the ground I walk on and be a saint while I'd go explore if the grass is greener). You can tell Kenny was stunned and disappointed because he asked her twice to clarify. To make sure he truly understood what she meant and point out her blatant double standards. She planted a seed of doubt where there was none. It was clear Kenny was into her and not interested in anyone else. He said so to the camera, told her so and acted like it until that moment. Then he acted the way he did to save face. To not show her he was bruised.
I also can't believe I'm warming up to Karl. He was quite good in this episode. He's a good narrator. Everything that came out of his mouth made sense. And he has friends, which was unconceivable.
Also, another thing I can't believe, is that I am now considering adding a HelloTushy to my Christmas shopping list and bringing it to my parents over the holidays. I'm even pondering if it'd fit French toilets.🤦🏻♀️ What is happening to me?🤯 Damn, you guys are good at this!
I agree! I feel like Mari was essentially saying to Kenny, "I'm into you if no one better shows up." I wouldn't want to be with someone who was only conditionally devoted. Kenny was justified in deciding not to settle for her bestowing, "good enough unless...." status on him. He was a free agent from that conversation onwards in my opinion.
AND i got a Hello Tushy because of Sharleen and Andy talking about it - using the SHANDY code - and installed it myself (and I'm not a handy person usually but it was easy enough for me!). I now can't believe everyone doesn't have one of these - it's a great invention and a simple positive life changer!!
@@melaniejohnson9340 Ahaha, loved the HelloTushy testimonial!!
I truly think Kenny didn't want/liked to be a free agent one bit (his spontaneous answer around the campfire on who he'd go for was Mauri!). He also didn't make a move on anyone. Demi did! And that alone makes it not serious at all because everything with Demi is pure cinema. And you can tell Kenny knows it.
He was also very calm and chill about all this, which shows his maturity (think about Tre/Aaron in the same situation).
Totally agree! 😊👍
I would totally have been crushed if a person said to me what Mari said to Kenny. You like me, but want to go in a date if asked? Throwing the word option in does not make it better. Whether it was what she meant or not, she gave him permission to explore an option with someone else. I totally get the “you want options, well, here you go” thing Kenny did. Geometrically, yes, a bad location.
I'm so with you on that!!! It was very much a diva move (I'd ask you to stay there worshipping me and be a saint while I'd go explore if the grass is greener). You can tell he was stunned and disappointed because he asked her twice to clarify, To make sure he really understood that silliness. And to point out her double standards. She planted a seed of doubt where there was none. It was clear Kenny was into her and not interested in anyone else. He said so to the camera, told her so and acted like it until that moment. Then he acted the way he did to save face. Not to show her he was bruised.
I am a mathematician, one of whose areas of expertise is algebraic geometry, so here is your viewer who is a geometer :)
I knew you were out there!
In interviews, Kendall said she was blindsided and given an ultimatum to move or they were done and she didn't want to move and neither did he. Joe said in interviews they knew it (geography) was an issue early on in the relationship, but he assumed she might change and move over time and she wouldn't. He also said they were growing apart toward the end..
Omg guys, they said tension at least twice tonight (Tuesday night)
Andy...So funny
Thank goodness for Andy who sees this episode for the crap that it was 🤣
I think Maurissa may have been hesitant to be super straight forward with Connor given all the issues with his kissing and attention brought to that. She probably didn't want to give him more of a complex about not measuring up again.
This is a great point but BIP filming happened before Katie’s season aired (at most, it began after the premiere). Plus they’re off the grid and wouldn’t be able to watch anyway! But I like the way you think! 😘
I think not being being straight forward with him is actually more disrespectful. She went from liking him to now treating him like this clingy guy she has to shake off. She didn’t have to give a reason why it’s not him, all she had to say was she respects him but she had a stronger connection with Riley and she wants to move forward with that.
@@dearshandy Ah okay. Well that theory goes out the window then. I need to pay more attention to filming timelines.
@@dearshandy I was chatting with my friend tonight and she reminded me of the conversation that Maurissa and Connor had where he shared that he was told by Katie he wasn't a good kisser! I knew I had a reason for thinking the way that I did. I also found a clip here where Maurissa says that Katie was wrong and that Connor was a good kisser: th-cam.com/video/bSDxsZ80TLI/w-d-xo.html
Please recap Fboy Island!!!
Wells said that Mari was going to though cake in ocean but he suggested throwing it in the fire, they just didn’t air that convo.
Regarding the Hello Tushy... What I keep thinking is that the stream of water will be shockingly cold. And do you control when it sprays. Haha real concerns. Thinking a good selling point will be-all the money you can save on using excess toilet paper, toilet flushable wipes and even plumbing due to clogging with the excess paper and “flushable” wipes. Any thoughts?
I love and look forward to these recaps after every episode. Thank you for doing them, even when you don't want to. :) The only thing that baffles me is your overly effusive love for Thomas. He stirs no strong feelings in me. A cipher.
Their take on the Grocery-Kendall saga is way off. Kendall is major controlling. Grocery likes being pushed around a bit by a gal but he has his limits. Either Grocery has to be Kendall’s pet in LA or they break up. Kendall’s not moving anywhere. I think Grocery finally opened his eyes in this relationship!
I was surprised they allowed Mari to take possesion of the (delicious?) cake. I think T. was tipsy/hungry so gave her food/pasta!
I think the only thing I agreed with you about this ep is that Demi is a rotten avocado.
Sharleen - what kind of overalls are those? I'm feeling influenced.
I completely agree with you both that Mari shot herself in the foot by outright saying that she wanted to date other people.
Such an amateur move, like has she ever watched an episode of BIP?! 🤦🏾♀️
I think I'm more on Demi's side than Mari's. Mari made it clear that she would most probably accept if anyone else asked her out. Demi took her chance and pounced on Kenny - I mean, isn't that what BiP is about?? Dating multiple people! Also, I think they were already on the daybed when Mari and Abigail spotted them. Abigail wasn't even sure it was Kenny, but Mari confirmed it was, so I'm guessing they weren't that close to this daybed.
Demi is living up to her pot-stirrer status, but I really have little sympathy for Mari, especially after she threw the cake into the fire. That was completely immature and waste of perfectly good cake!
There was something lost in translation between Kenny and Mari, but to me it did seem like Mari wanted to be able to date other people, but had a fit when Kenny decided to do the same.
Agreed - I don't have sympathy for Mari. If you like somebody I don't know why you would want to go on other dates and if you're not dating him, why can't other women?
I have to guess you’re talking about CJ from Fboy Island!
She was originally going to throw it in the ocean. Well’s told her to throw it in the fire instead. Or at least that’s the story that he told in one of his interviews.
I think you were commenting about my post last week but I was NOT "slut-shaming" Maurissa. Trust me, I'm the last person to do that. Didn't bother me a bit when Demi did it. Just felt bad for Maurissa who had JUST SAID she's insecure, never had a guy take her on a date, and needs constant reassurance, to just let him immediately smooth-talk her into "I know a place". But hey, seems like it's working out for her so what do I know. I hope he is being sincere.
Whether Mari’s intentions were good or not, the fact is she was being a hypocrite expecting him to stand there while she kept her options open. Please. Kenny was 100% in the right to move on. You’re projecting on both of them because you’re on her side. Just as you don’t know Mari’s intentions, you can’t be sure Kenny was being vindictive either.
It is funny you guys are saying Conner is sad sack and his twitter username is sad oat lol
Lol
Also, we know Riley is cake guy because on Tayshia season, who brought cake to her on their one-on-one time.