James Chirillo had me practice these Segovia Scales, as well as the George Van Eps Guitar Method (the smaller book before all the Harmonic Mechanisms) back when I was living in NYC. The scale fingerings worked with Johnny Smith's extended arpeggio fingerings as well. Each note played slowly--ensuring that the notes sounded connected and sustained (easier said than done--especially with those shifts involved). Even though there are MANY naysayers to using the fingerings for both classical and jazz guitar, I still learned A LOT--more than if I restricted my scale studies to strictly in position. Learning how to navigate multiple octaves helped me play lines with leaps and feel the distance between the octaves. The strictness of the fingering wasn't as important as learning how to shift on single strings. Cool to see more people using Segovia Scales for jazz application. Btw, you look like a young Larry Koonse--another amazing jazz musician and improviser.
Wow, thanks so much for sharing. I gotta check out the Johnny Smith arpeggio fingerings, that sounds really cool. Thanks for watching! And I love Larry Koonse, such a deep musician and by all accounts a great teacher.
@@armsfullofronan I got ONE lesson with Koonse--very cool guy and a great teacher. The arpeggios are in the COMPLETE JOHNNY SMITH APPROACH TO GUITAR by Melbay. I got the e-book version. Worth the price of admission ;)
Thanks for outlining this. I’ve been hearing (mostly jazz guitarists?) talk about “Segovia scales” for years without really knowing what they are. These seem similar to the fingerings taught on the UK ABRSM (Classical) guitar syllabus.
Thank you for the great video. I’m a beginner that played guitar 30 years ago and I’m starting to learn again. I was playing the major scale like this so I feel going knowing I’m on the right track. I also just ordered that book on Amazon.
First encountered Segovia fingerings studying classical guitar with Brian Johns around 45 years ago. Those, and later Bobby Ferrazza's scalar approach, heavily influenced my FordScales II system. Nice to see them covered. Cheers, Daniel
Metronome. After being a musician for twenty years and absolutely hating metronomes my perspective was reversed by Carol Kaye. Theres a long interview with her here on YT. She says that you know you're doing it right when "that thing (the metronome) syarts to swing". As soon as i heard that i dug out a dusty metronome and started playing. She's was absolutely correct. 100%. If the metronome sounds bad it's your playing. Once you're wanting the next click of the metronome because it sounds as good as your favourite snare teack, budda-bing. You're in the pocket. Yearn for the click. Dance around it.
@@Shekhar-o4o Those chords are from having learned my triads up and down the neck. I’ll do a video on that later, it’s a bit much to explain in a comment. Thank you for asking!
@@armsfullofronan So kind of u. In fact I'm desperate to learn that thing, in fingerstyle of course. Marco Cilio videos helped, but he is for advanced players. I'm a singer songwriter who wants to play that kind of accompaniment.
@@Shekhar-o4o I teach remotely over Zoom if you're ever interested. Happy to help you on your way with harmony and fingerstyle, just get in touch. in the meantime, best of luck.
Didnt know about Segovia scales but i use C to A shape and the major scale to connect. Imo the A shape is the most useful one as a flat first finger covers the 3 notes which leaves lots of space f the others..
@@armsfullofronan… and yet we still want more … for free … and we don’t know how to say please, and/or thank you. Your work is excellent. Thank you for posting, and sharing. 🍁
I understand your perspective, and it’s a good thing that you shrug it off. Better for your wellbeing, and your Misic. I think that you’re an excellent Player. Thanks for reply.
Try researching and finding out why Segovia Scales, don’t just spew drivel by saying Segovia not a good player; the shifting technique in the Segovia Scales is pertinent.
Segovia is now a blacklisted name in guitar history. No guitar player today should play Segovia scales. If they do they are ignoring history. Segovia was a Fascist supporter of Franco during the Spanish Civl War, and afterwards. Franco's Fascists, with the support of Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini, murdered hundreds of thousands of Republican Spaniards who fought for their freedom from evil Fascist dictatorship. Segovia threw away his reputation forever by supporting the Fascists.
This is a very good point and why I encouraged further research on the man. There are numerous examples of this throughout music history, of musicians and artists supporting political movements that led to oppression. Herbert Von Karajan comes to mind as well. I still believe his scales and recordings to be of value and as someone that is not steeped in the classical world, I may in fact be less aware of the discourse around him. Thank you for bringing this up, I will add a link to info on this so people have more context.
Soooo, we should all just forgo a method to improve on guitar because he had shitty political views? I guess some people can’t separate the art from the artist
@@JohnSmith-in1ttthat op just means Segovia stood against the communists who were even more barbarous and brutal, but also wanted to take everyone’s property
James Chirillo had me practice these Segovia Scales, as well as the George Van Eps Guitar Method (the smaller book before all the Harmonic Mechanisms) back when I was living in NYC. The scale fingerings worked with Johnny Smith's extended arpeggio fingerings as well. Each note played slowly--ensuring that the notes sounded connected and sustained (easier said than done--especially with those shifts involved).
Even though there are MANY naysayers to using the fingerings for both classical and jazz guitar, I still learned A LOT--more than if I restricted my scale studies to strictly in position. Learning how to navigate multiple octaves helped me play lines with leaps and feel the distance between the octaves. The strictness of the fingering wasn't as important as learning how to shift on single strings.
Cool to see more people using Segovia Scales for jazz application. Btw, you look like a young Larry Koonse--another amazing jazz musician and improviser.
Wow, thanks so much for sharing. I gotta check out the Johnny Smith arpeggio fingerings, that sounds really cool. Thanks for watching! And I love Larry Koonse, such a deep musician and by all accounts a great teacher.
@@armsfullofronan I got ONE lesson with Koonse--very cool guy and a great teacher. The arpeggios are in the COMPLETE JOHNNY SMITH APPROACH TO GUITAR by Melbay. I got the e-book version. Worth the price of admission ;)
Thanks for outlining this. I’ve been hearing (mostly jazz guitarists?) talk about “Segovia scales” for years without really knowing what they are. These seem similar to the fingerings taught on the UK ABRSM (Classical) guitar syllabus.
Thank you for the great video. I’m a beginner that played guitar 30 years ago and I’m starting to learn again. I was playing the major scale like this so I feel going knowing I’m on the right track. I also just ordered that book on Amazon.
First encountered Segovia fingerings studying classical guitar with Brian Johns around 45 years ago. Those, and later Bobby Ferrazza's scalar approach, heavily influenced my FordScales II system. Nice to see them covered. Cheers, Daniel
Worth watching. Good approach. Thanks
Great info,thanks.
Metronome. After being a musician for twenty years and absolutely hating metronomes my perspective was reversed by Carol Kaye. Theres a long interview with her here on YT.
She says that you know you're doing it right when "that thing (the metronome) syarts to swing".
As soon as i heard that i dug out a dusty metronome and started playing. She's was absolutely correct. 100%. If the metronome sounds bad it's your playing. Once you're wanting the next click of the metronome because it sounds as good as your favourite snare teack, budda-bing. You're in the pocket.
Yearn for the click. Dance around it.
Thank you very much, quite helpful.
I had exactly the same experience and it’s made me a much better musician
First time watching your channel. Please, do more videos like this!
@@zenonmagus8912 thanks for watching! more on the way for sure. cheers.
Great! Sir, which two fingers to use in fingerstyle? Once you suddenly played chords while playing scales. How to practice that?
@@Shekhar-o4o Segovia recommends all the combinations in the right hand, using appuyando or rest stroke. PI, IP, IM, MI, MA, AM.
@@Shekhar-o4o Those chords are from having learned my triads up and down the neck. I’ll do a video on that later, it’s a bit much to explain in a comment. Thank you for asking!
@@armsfullofronan So kind of u. In fact I'm desperate to learn that thing, in fingerstyle of course. Marco Cilio videos helped, but he is for advanced players. I'm a singer songwriter who wants to play that kind of accompaniment.
@@Shekhar-o4o I teach remotely over Zoom if you're ever interested. Happy to help you on your way with harmony and fingerstyle, just get in touch. in the meantime, best of luck.
@@armsfullofronan Thanks a lot, but I am not savvy with such things - technologically- challenged, if u will.
Didnt know about Segovia scales but i use C to A shape and the major scale to connect. Imo the A shape is the most useful one as a flat first finger covers the 3 notes which leaves lots of space f the others..
How about a pdf ?
@@davidswanepoel9372 sorry, i don’t have one to share, but these are easy to find online.
@@armsfullofronan… and yet we still want more … for free … and we don’t know how to say please, and/or thank you. Your work is excellent. Thank you for posting, and sharing. 🍁
@@rainchaser5389 thanks so much for your kind words. I don’t expect much in the way of manners on in the internet ;)
I understand your perspective, and it’s a good thing that you shrug it off. Better for your wellbeing, and your Misic. I think that you’re an excellent Player. Thanks for reply.
Not bad, a little technical for my liking, but i follow
Why Segovia scales.
Important guitar dude but
Not the greatest player. Not even close
@@ed713ca it’s not about who is the greatest. It’s a lineage. He has some ideas to offer that I think are worthwhile.
Spoken like someone who knows very little about “guitar dudes.”
Try researching and finding out why Segovia Scales, don’t just spew drivel by saying Segovia not a good player; the shifting technique in the Segovia Scales is pertinent.
Segovia is now a blacklisted name in guitar history. No guitar player today should play Segovia scales. If they do they are ignoring history. Segovia was a Fascist supporter of Franco during the Spanish Civl War, and afterwards. Franco's Fascists, with the support of Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini, murdered hundreds of thousands of Republican Spaniards who fought for their freedom from evil Fascist dictatorship. Segovia threw away his reputation forever by supporting the Fascists.
This is a very good point and why I encouraged further research on the man. There are numerous examples of this throughout music history, of musicians and artists supporting political movements that led to oppression. Herbert Von Karajan comes to mind as well. I still believe his scales and recordings to be of value and as someone that is not steeped in the classical world, I may in fact be less aware of the discourse around him. Thank you for bringing this up, I will add a link to info on this so people have more context.
Soooo, we should all just forgo a method to improve on guitar because he had shitty political views? I guess some people can’t separate the art from the artist
@@JohnSmith-in1tt Some people choose not to, and that's ok!
@@JohnSmith-in1ttthat op just means Segovia stood against the communists who were even more barbarous and brutal, but also wanted to take everyone’s property
That viewpoint is like throwing out all of Chick Corea’s work because he was a Scientologist. Your choice to do so. And good luck with that…